Ceiling: Meet Floor. Floor: Meet Ceiling

by Lowetide
  • On the road to: CAL (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: NJD, VEG (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-2-0)
  • On the road to: VAN (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: NYI, NAS (Expected 2-0-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: TOR, MTL, OTT (Expected 1-2-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: MIN, NYR (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: UTA, COL (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 8-5-0, 16 points in 13 games
  • November results: 1-2-0, 2 points in 3 games
  • Oilers in 2024-25: 6-7-1, 13 points in 14 games

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Scungilli Slushy

Hey Bruce – is there a glossary to CoH stats somewhere?

winchester

Lots of analysis of what is wrong with the team. At least we can see that all the underlying parts and people should still be enough to be winning, in games, or close.

So what are the solutions?

DevilsLettuce

This team can’t hold a 3rd period lead, and it isn’t the best players fault.

the-winston

Oilers are just too old and slow. If they don’t change the make up of the team, this will be a wild card team, at best.
Glad I was able to attend playoff games last year and one of them was the WC clinching game. What a wild time and saddens me that I may not experience it this year. 🙁

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LMHF#1

The Oilers keep convincing themselves as a whole that they have to be something different in order to win – which is wrong.

Scoring teams should score. No one can keep pace with them in this sort of game.

Instead Tippett, Woodcroft and now Knoblauch seem to think putting the brakes on is the way to go.

You don’t take your track-ready Ferrari into the woods ffs.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

Its also the media and the fanbase for a large part beating the drum of structure and defensive play. There is a logic to it but its too conservative.

I think with this team you go all out, every night. Let them have fun. Roll the dice every time. You know the talent is there that over 7 games nobody can keep up. Yet everyone wants the Oilers to play “smart” hockey. Forget that BS. This team is built for fireworks. Let’s go!

LMHF#1

I’ll go right to the heart of the matter – why is Connor stinking the joint out this year?

This is not the #97 that rarely has a bad shift, not to mention a bad game.

I’m convinced he’s sabotaging himself, trying to be a player he is not. This is the only reason players of his level tend to go through periods where they look average-to-bad.

The team looked better without him. Think about that.

Hopefully there is someone in the org who can see this and he listens to. Or maybe time for a call from #99.

winchester

Mental fatigue

Spartacus

Is this that “repeatable game” that LT was talking about a couple of days ago?

Play just well enough to seem like you were in the game but collapse completely in time to give the victory to the opposition?

This team is so tiresome, exhausting, really.

They should be one of the best teams in the league, right at the top of the standings, playing .750 hockey… but nope.

Same as it ever was… same as it ever was.

bcoil

I have been of the opinion since summer that Jackson made this team older, smaller and slower when he added two expensive old guys in Alfredson and Skinner and let go three younger bigger and much faster players .It is becoming more and more obvious in our specialty teams play ,neutral zone play and in the third period when the new older legs and the resident older legs just can’t keep up

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Reja

Foegele was as good as gone his replacement Arvidsson has to be at worst a wash on paper. The whole purpose of trading McLeod was to get younger and save a bit on the cap. The Skinner 1year 3 million deal you take everyday and twice on Sunday. Losing Holloway and Broberg was nasty pool by Armstrong. The trade for Jarventie was to hopefully have a fresh bottom sixer later this year.The O’Reilly trade and draft was to expedite the young forward group that was nonexistent under Holland. What would you have done differently? What would you have signed Foegele- Broberg- Holloway for remember they had no idea what Kane was doing plus it was the shortest offseason in there history.

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winchester

The lagging effects of Game 7 are spectacular.

This team is full of talent. You can see it. But everything they do now seems to be with general malaise. Good interviews but just sleepwalking “saying the right things” Identifying the right things. Been there done that.

Fatigue. Limited interest. Trying but not battling. Going through the motions but low intensity. It was a good game actually, by two skilled teams but was there really any intensity?

We’ll save that for later when we need it.

Its very hard to dig in. Coach is a quiet man. No big driver for performance has yet emerged this year. And veterans want to get wins, as peacefully as possible.

In regards to summer roster I think the mistake was signing too much age and experience to win that last game of the playoffs, but totally underestimating the 82 games to get there. Forgetting the importance of youth, driven to make a team. Forgetting the importance of intensity, and not finding those players that bring it.

Oilers have a bad hangover.

cowboy bill

They had 29 hits. I don’t know if that is an indication of intensity. They continue to only get one crack on the PP and of course they can only kill off one of two on the PK. But isn’t the goaltender supposed to be the best penalty killer?

winchester

Hyman was hitting, Emberson a few. Nurse played well. I doubt the 29 hits, sounds very homer. But still last in league in regards to hits to date.

Interesting when they fight they win. I don’t think there is much to this stat, but it is a minor indication of intensity.

Gentlemanly play rarely draws penalties. You draw penalties when you are hard to stop.

Goaltending I think falls under general malaise as well. Nice interviews Stu, say the right things, move on, focus on next game….etc. What pisses you off Stu? When are you going to get so dam mad your give a sh*t meter goes through the roof. Play like it matters.

I don’t put it on the goalies, but they have a part..

Still hungover. They must have been shot-gunning the beers between tequila shots.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Also, for all those saying: “things were worse last year and it turned out fine”.

Last years turnaround was the exception. One of the greatest comebacks in a season in NHL history. Think about the mental energy required to get through last season. Do we really think the guys have enough in the tank to do the same this year? Cannot afford to dig a big hole.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

Yeah but things were worse last year and resultantly they don’t need the greatest comeback of all time, they need to correct mid season as they have last season but also the one before. We remain within the norm.

Sierra

That’s be honest here. Sure last season was a tremendous success, but also they made it tremendously exhausting and harder on themselves than it should have been. The season before can hardly be viewed as a success. I don’t think this is a “norm” that should be endorsed.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

Not endorsing one way or another: Just looking at the team as it is, and has been.

fishman

No idea what to think of this group anymore. Best odds to win the cup??? Currently looks like a battle for a wild card playoff spot. Best group of forwards in the league?? Currently one of the lowest scoring teams. Best PP in the last number of years. Not getting many chances and can’t piss a drop when they do.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

Also: Please help me. That Joannie Rochette’s Lincoln commercial is the most garbled narrative I have ever seen in an advertisement. Seriously, is this an AI script? Its nonsensical. I am obsessed with how bad this commercial is.

Spartacus

Having to watch the same commercials over and over during the hockey season is cruel and unusual punishment.

There should be a law regarding how many times you’re allowed to air a commercial.

By the end of the season, I will have seen some commercials 1,000 times.

And you wonder why I have such rage?

Chelios is a Dinosaur

The title of the blog today matches my take on this team. My observations:

Evan Bouchard is a ridiculously talented hockey player. His style however is peculiar, very upright skater with short strides, good with the puck close to his body, less in control when he’s extended. He can walk the line and retain puck control where most defencemen can’t. His style allows him to have success in the corners in his own zone in order to get the puck moving the other way. However his defensive awareness is dangerously lacking when the other team is in transition. This is me being generous. I am giving him benefit of the doubt due to his unique skating style as I know we often equate that with laziness and I don’t want to suggest that, but if I am honest I have to supress my eyes and instincts in order to do so. 
 
I hated that first goal, and the third goal for him. (Ekholm also looked horrible on GA 1.)
 
Connor McDavid, similarly, isn’t into it yet this year. He doesn’t look slower. He doesn’t look hurt. He looks disinterested. He’s at 50% which wouldn’t be good enough from anyone. Before the injury his defensive game was completely MIA. Last night, we just saw no chemistry with, seemingly, anyone.
 
These two–McDavid and Bouchardplay too chaotically to also play disinterested hockey. When they are dialled in, they compensate for their chaos with their talent. If they aren’t contributing their talents at 100%, the chaos they initiate is too great for lesser talents to counter balance. This is why Edmonton either feels like the second coming of the Red Army, or a KHL club. It’s in their character. Its why they play better when they need to: because they can. I would also throw Leon into that mix as well. When he’s lazy, its chaos inc. Soft pizzas to the middle of the ice, etc. To his credit, however, Leon is carrying the team and has been the major reason they aren’t 2-9-1.
 
So my takeaway is that two of the very brightest stars on this team need to get their shit together. But I have faith that they will, because they always do. But if you’re into this team for regular season Division Titles, I would shop elsewhere.

Bruce McCurdy

Ekholm also looked horrible on GA 3. Didn’t get the puck, didn’t get the man.

that said, the guy played 75 minutes of NHL hockey in 75 hours of real rime. I’m still baffled as to why he played 28+ minutes in what was clearly a lost cause vs. New Jersey on Monday, ditto for Bouchard (27 minutes) & Draisaitl (23) in that same game, i expressed on the CoH podcast that night my concern that might take a toll next game. Lo & behold, all 3 were simulatenously both on the ice & out to lunch in the 60th minute when the game was lost.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

Fair enough and good observation I didn’t catch that episode. This shouldn’t be an issue considering their depth at forward and appears to me to be a Nurse issue on D. That’s 9 million not playing 27/28 minutes…

cowboy bill

Kulak & Nurse both had over 23 minutes which was slightly more than Ek & Bouch.
Maybe all they need is a partner for Emberson other than Travis Dermott, or Troy Stecher or heaven forbid Josh Brown.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

So they tread water until the deadline I guess or they start scoring or they trade for that dman now.

Sierra

Bruce’s point is valid and thus far this season:

Bouch averages 3 minutes more per game than Nurse and 6 minutes more than Kulak;

Ek averages 2 minutes more per game than Nurse, and 5 more than Kulak.

cowboy bill

With a Nurse-Kulak pair they might be able to balance the minutes out is what I’m trying to say. I totally agree with Bruce. It also might be easier to find a left shot partner for Emberson than it would be to find a right shot partner for Nurse if Kulak can do the job.

Sierra

I’m not buying into your notion that McDavid and Drai are chaos.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

Your sphincter doesn’t tighten when Leon has the puck with his back to the play at either blue line?

My sphincter also tightens when 97 is choosing between tracking man 1, tracking man 2, tracking man 3 and cheating the zone simultaneously.

These are marvellous talents. But their errors, a product not of lack of skill but of focus, create numerous positional and transitional issues that catch their teammates off guard.

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Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

The special teams play is going to result in a stupid personnel decision. Either a trade or a firing. Special teams is probably directly responsible for like 3-4 loses already.

Sierra

Maybe it’s time for the special teams coach to be replaced

cowboy bill

Gully or Stuart? I don’t know the players have a part to play.

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