Ten Years Ago

by Lowetide

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    • No. 21: D Ben Betker.
    • No. 22: L Curtis Hamilton
    • No. 23: L Mitch Moroz
    • No. 24: D David Musil
    • No. 25: D Martin Gernat
    • No. 26: F Tyler Vesel
    • No. 27: R Jackson Houck
    • No. 28: G Zach Nagelvoort
    • No. 29: F Kellen Jones
    • No. 30: L Kale Kessy

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    €√¥£€^$

    Nathaniel Day is also writing his story. For me, FWIW, he is my current favourite prospect to follow.

    His numbers in the ECHL, albeit small samples, are very intriguing. This is a player that has generally been overlooked in the organization because his CHL stats are so unimpressive. As a result, I think he gave off Dylan Wells vibes, and you can lump me in there. 

    But Flint played the hell out of Day the past 2 seasons and became their starter in the back half of his Draft year. He played in 122 of Flint’s 145 games, including playoffs. He had a record of 52-58-8 and had a 3+ GAA and a sub 0.900 Save Percentage.

    In Fort Wayne, he played in 8 games, 5 in the playoffs and 3 regular season games and had a 4-1-1 record, with a 1.62 GAA and a save percentage of 0.933.
    Day is a very athletic 6’4” goaltender. With a decent team in front of him he may very well prove to be a bonafide NHL prospect.

    That being said, if Vinni gets back to full-time play next season, the goaltending prospect depth on this team, in my opinion, will present itself as the most promising in Oilers history.

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    OriginalPouzar

    Per Sin Bib Vegas:

    “If you had told me Draisaitl had 6 points and McDavid had 5, they have 3 goals combined, and their power play was 9%, the series is over in 5 games, I figure we won.” -Cassidy

    Ice Sage

    Thx.
    That is an astounding compliment!

    OriginalPouzar

    Everything the same at practice today except Arvidsson in Brown’s spot.

    Brown not on ice.

    I haven’t listened to coach yet but I suspect illness.

    OriginalPouzar

    Coach says maintenance day and that he will not miss any time.

    Reja

    This pretty much works on every goalie but the traffic on Kuemper and especially Hill was very effective. I do think we can get inside Oettinger head with traffic Kane-Perry-Hyman are all very smart at creating traffic taking away Jake’s eyes. Even with Vegas big-ugly-nasty D we were able to get inside Hill’s head Oettinger can also be thrown off his game.

    Tarkus

    Samanski and Leppänen each with a helper this day.

    Reja

    What’s up with our #64 pick in 2024 draft Eemil Vinni? The stats only have him in 1 game this year.

    Professor Q

    Suomi-kiekon suurimpiin maalivahtilupauksiin lukeutuva Eemil Vinni, 19, jatkaa uraansa ensi kaudella Mestiksessä. Loukkaantumisista kärsinyt Vinni on solminut yksivuotisen sopimuksen Joensuun Kiekko-Poikien kanssa. Vinni kävi viime kesänä selkäleikkauksessa, minkä seurauksena maalivahti pelasi tällä kaudella vain yhdeksän ottelua. Näistä yhden HIFK:n edustusjoukkueessa, yhden Kiekko-Vantaan Mestis-joukkueessa ja seitsemän HIFK:n U20-joukkueessa.

    Vinniä pidetään todella kovan luokan lupauksena, sillä Edmonton Oilers varasi nuorukaisen toisella kierroksella kesän 2024 NHL-varaustilaisuudessa.

    Kiekko-Poikien toisena maalivahtina jatkaa Juho Ahopelto, 26. Tällä kaudella päävastuun maalilla kantanut Juho Markkanen ei jatka Joensuussa ensi kaudella.

    One of the biggest goalie prospects in Finnish hockey, Eemil Vinni, 19, will continue his career next season in Mestis. Vinni, who has been suffering from injuries, has signed a one-year contract with Joensuun Kiekko-Pojat. Vinni underwent back surgery last summer, as a result of which the goalie only played nine games this season. One of them in HIFK’s representative team, one in Kiekko-Vantaa’s Mestis team and seven in HIFK’s U20 team.

    Vinni is considered a really high-class prospect, as the Edmonton Oilers drafted the youngster in the second round of the 2024 NHL Draft.

    Juho Ahopelto, 26, will continue as the second goalie of Kiekko-Pojat. Juho Markkanen, who has had the main responsibility in goal this season, will not continue in Joensuu next season.

    Last edited 1 hour ago by Professor Q
    €√¥£€^$

    He is still very highly thought of by some of top goaltending prospect evaluators.

    Health is a massive concern for this player.

    Tarkus

    Even with the mention of him playing Mestis again next season, I wonder whether he might get taken in the CHL Import Draft.

    Starting next season, CHL teams can have three Euros, so the draft has been expanded to three rounds. Vinni is 19, turning 20 in December.

    €√¥£€^$

    Is it all 3 leagues?

    I thought it was just WHL with 3 Euros…

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    Tarkus
    OriginalPouzar

    Per Rishaug:

    Top 6 looks the same based on practice sweater colours.

    OriginalPouzar

    Mark Scheifele’s father passed away over night.

    Awful to hear (read).

    Harpers Hair

    Murat Ates
    @WPGMurat

    Kevin Cheveldayoff shares that Mark Scheifele’s dad passed away last night. Scott Arniel is back at the team hotel speaking with Scheifele now.

    It is too soon to know whether or not he will play tonight. The team asks that the Scheifele family’s privacy is respected at this time

    prefonmich

    I hope he plays and scores 3 for his dad. These moments remind us that the hockey games matter a lot less than all the other aspects of these men’s lives. My thoughts are with him. So tough.

    Professor Q

    10 years later and Edmonton is signing NCAA players, as well as Euro players.

    Lowetide, how do you think the players that they’ve signed so far this year compare to the players in this post?

    Melman

    Interesting that you noted Hutson. I saw his first game and even squinting I didn’t see an NHL player (too small & too slow) – it’ll be fun to watch how he develops. Hope I’m wrong

    €√¥£€^$

    Leppanen is a very unique player. He looks different, kinda reminds me of a middle aged beer leaguer when he is standing waiting for faceoff. He moves and plays very different, lots of subtlety to his game, he is an exceptional puck mover, big brain.

    I don’t his defending will hold him back and his skating is very average. I am very intrigued to see how he looks with NHL players on an NHL sized rink.

    €√¥£€^$

    I think Carfagna will be exciting to follow, his tools are very intriguing.

    LMHF#1

    Slepyshev was a player. Sad that the org wasn’t in a place to refine.

    RockySLeafs

    Because of the Jack Campbell buyout the Oilers have 2.6 million against the cap next two seasons then 1.5 the year after that. Can the buyout be traded? For example a 1st round pick? Just curious

    BornInAGretzkyJersey

    No it cannot.

    anonymous

    A little luck with Leon too. I believe Leon choosing the WHL rather than the OHL is the only reason he wasn’t 1st overall. Big centres like Leon in the OHL seem to get more hype.

    Professor Q

    It was also only until he was traded to the Rockets that he really took off. At the time though, I actually really wanted him. And the name was great. Everyone loves German Gretzky.

    Last edited 2 hours ago by Professor Q
    Ranford.85

    I disagree, his draft year in Prince Albert was pretty darn good.
    64gp and 38-67-105

    Professor Q

    You disagree that I wanted him?

    Professor Q

    What I was trying to convey was, the player that was lighting up Germany was playing like Kopitar for his draft. Which is very good, and what we needed at the time.

    He then became something else when he returned and was traded to Kelowna. Not just Kopitar with skating, either. I mean beyond even that.

    BornInAGretzkyJersey

    I think the shift had a lot to do with playing for a middling team and going to a stacked club that could wheel. He was productive in PA, but really took off when he was surrounded by more talent.

    anonymous

    Yeah, I would have taken him first overall without hindsight. So many years looking for a big skilled centre.

    Ryan

    It took me years of being an Oilers fan to pay attention to any draft pick past the first round leading up to the draft.

    Around 2009, I started posting at Oilers message board and HF Boards. I started looking as far down as the second or third round picks.

    Shortly after that I found LT’s former blogspot website.

    Now if I fail to recall important information, I have LT to thank that I’ve wasted precious mental RAM cluttered with names of failed Oilers prospects dating back to Slava Trukhno. Lt, you had a way of crafting their stories with hope and promise that was interesting and memorable.

    Ryan

    Marco Roy was an interesting pick. There’s a backstory there. He was a Parkatti selection.

    Even with smart math, you’re not going to be batting 1000 at the draft. It sounds like that what the org expected. When that pick didn’t pan out, the org lost faith in analytics which set us back years.

    Hard to imagine the irony that the org’s faith in analytics hinged on an n of 1.

    Glad he’s back in the fold.

    Reja

    I hope our PP is going to go back to simply siphon pucks to the net for Hyman-Perry. The passing it around for a minute trying to get Leon or Bouchard the perfect look is not working. If you get pucks to the net it leads to scrambly play which then results in a P.K breakdown.

    Bobcaygeon

    This right here ☝️, the Oilers are stationary and it’s too easy for defenders to get into lanes. (Predictable)

    cowboy bill

    I don’t care how they do it, I just hope they do it.

    Death By Misadventure

    I would like KK to try using both Hyman and Perry on PP1. Nuge off. Clog the crease and get dirty.

    Reja

    I would like them to try the Neal-Chaisson scrambly type of opportunities Bouchard-Connor-Nuge instead of trying to wire a shot just get it to the net kinda like the OT goal.

    Shane

    Nuge is too good along the left wall. He’s constantly keeping plays alive. Rotating Hyman and Perry in keeps the net front fresh while the others guys whip it around.

    BornInAGretzkyJersey

    Was about to reply with something similar, just less well put.

    The PP without its witch is demonstrably less effective.

    CruJones

    I’m no expert but I’d say degree of difficulty for hitting home runs at the draft increased significantly between Messier and Leon’s draft. Not saying it makes Leon the top
    pick either, but getting the best player at the draft anywhere but number 1 seems like it’s a lot tougher these days than 40 years ago.

    Pretendergast

    Definitely much higher informational advantage that was exploited in the 21 draft (Johnston). Many drafts still have stories to tell, and agree the ‘top’ of the draft is where you get the gamebreakers. And of course, YMMV.

    21-Johnston (23)
    20- Stutzle(3)
    18- Hughes (7)
    17- Makar (4)
    14- Leo (3)
    12- Forsberg (11) honourable mention Slavin (120)
    11- Kucherov (58)
    10- Seguin (2) Stone (178)

    Of the 11 year sample, the best player (my opinion) went 1st 4 times, top 5 8 times. Some drafts are deeper too; Dahlin is no slouch and Hall isn’t far from Seguin at all.

    Thar be gems in any draft.

    BornInAGretzkyJersey

    11- Kucherov (58)

    Could also add Johnny Gaudreau (104) as an HM.

    12- Forsberg (11) honourable mention Slavin (120)

    I think Vasilevsky (19) deserves an HM here, and Colton Parayko (86) as well.

    2013 saw Jake Guentzel (77) drafted late and he’s remained a productive playoff player away from Crosby.

    14- Leo (3)

    Brayden Point (79) was an astute selection by TBL that continues to pay dividends.

    2015’s draft steal was easily Kirill Kaprizov (135).

    2016 saw NJD unearth Jesper Bratt (162) very late. While not a gamebreaker, he’s easily the best late pick from that year. Maybe Adam Fox (66) qualifies as a game breaker, and he was certainly chosen late.

    18- Hughes (7)

    I think you’d have to include Evan Bouchard (10), no? What he gives up to Thin Hughes in regular season production, he eclipses in the playoffs. And he’s certainly a game breaker to these eyes.

    2019 had an interesting mid first round cluster of Matt Boldy (12) and Cole Caufield (15). Both are the types of players who can come up big in clutch situations.

    20- Stutzle(3)

    Seth Jarvis (13) is a contender for a draft steal, but probably a notch below a game breaker.

    Agreed about gems being available all throughout the draft. But I think luck and chance plays an enormous factor that’s impossible to quantify.

    Harpers Hair

    Dallas Stars:

    2015: Roope Hintz #49
    2017: Jake Oettinger #26 Jason Robertson #39
    2018: Oscar Back #75
    2019: Thomas Harley #18
    2020: Mavrik Bourque #30
    2021: Wyatt Johnson #23 Logan Stankhoven #47
    2022: Lian Bischel #18

    All of the above are currently active in the 2025 playoffs so it seems there might be a little more than luck involved.

    BornInAGretzkyJersey

    TBY had incredible drafting with Al Murray nailing picks from the nosebleeds.

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    colieo_87

    MORNING LT. Does it feel like we are destined to play the jets in think so. Also I went back to try to read mcdavid draft article back in April of 2015 and it’s gone 🙁

    colieo_87

    Thank you LT so much

    meanashell11

    If memory serves me, and I have not confirmed, but I believe the Oil have never won the cup without defeating the Peg in the playoffs. Bring on Winnipeg.

    godot10

    Based on where they were drafted, Messier, Anderson, and Kurri were “better” picks than Draisaitl.

    And arguably, the game of backgammon between Nelson Skalbania and Michael Gobuty was more significant game of partially skilled based chance than the 2015 Draft lottery.

    History rhymes.

    Reja

    Arguably Coffey at #6 If Your starting a team who would you take Coffey or Leon? I myself would lean towards Leon I do think Coffey’s game would translate wonderfully in today’s N.H.L.

    OriginalPouzar

    Leon Draisaitl and Darnell Nurse is a pretty good 1-2 at the top of a prospects list.

    €√¥£€^$

    But a whole lot of nothing after the top 2. I really thought Yakimov, Betker, Platzer and Chase would be at least bottom of the roster NHLers in Edmonton. This is very common, but would be nice to see 4 or 5 success stories over every 2-3 seasons.

    Prospect following in this organization has been mostly very disappointing over the last many, many years.

    Yet, for some inexplicable reason, I still remain hopeful.

    Pretendergast

    Graveyards for most teams are similar. Tampa outperformed deeper in the draft in the 10’s but also whiffed on first rounders.

    10- Connolly at 6
    11- Namestnikov at 27, not a whiff
    12- Koekkoek at 10
    13- Drouin at 3
    14 – Deangelo 19, not a whiff technically.
    17 – Cal Foote 14

    After that it was rare for them to pick r1. They lucked out deeper in the draft so i dont blame them for going scorched earth on the 1st rounders since they were doing well below average on that.

    Tarkus

    Prospectindle!

    Muskegon is one win away from claiming the league crown, which would put a fine end to Bauer Berry’s USHL career.

    Speqking of, his apple yesternight gave him 27 points in 137 regular season and playoff games.

    Puck drops @ 4 p.m. Hill Spring time.

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