Oilers at Flames, Rookie Game 2

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iwin76

Well, wasn’t watching that closely but outside of Savoie no Oiler really stood out as NHL ready. Howard was underwhelming. Hutson seems a smart player, can see a middle 6 option there long term. Day showed promise, Marjala too. Samanski with a nice finish.

Savoie is ready. His two feeds on 2v1s would likely have been two assists if he was passing to NHL players. Good at turning over the puck.

Todd Macallan

Von Richter with the seeing eye point shot whilst wearing Ales Hemsky’s #83.

OriginalPouzar

Parker Von Richter with a floater from the left point and then a half slapper from the right point (right on the boards) and the seeing eye shot cuts the lead to 1 AGAIN.

Tarkus

Oilers make it 5-4 as Hutson sends a pass to Von Richter at the right point, and his one-timer finds its way thru traffic. Woodall should get the other helper.

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rich tm

Long shift in the o-zone results in a goal by Von Richter, Samanski with a screen in front.

rich tm

Savoie has been dangerous. Created a chance off the forecheck right at the start of the 3rd (coming out of the box). Then a lovely pass that got thru, shooter couldn’t finish. Carfagna looking good on defense.

Todd Macallan

Great touch pass from Howard to send Savoie in on the odd man rush. He has a very good shot, would like to see him be more selfish and shoot there.

Todd Macallan

VERY nice finish top side glove by Samanski off the nice 2 on 1 feed from Hutson.

OriginalPouzar

A couple flames collide in the neutral zone, Hutson and Samanski to in on a 2 on 1 – nice delay and feed by Hutson and Samanski with a quick release short side to cut the deficit to 403.

Tarkus

After the Flames went up 4-2, the Oilers strike back as Hutson feeds Samanski on a 2-on-1, and the German snipes on the short side to bring the Oilers within one. Looks like Pitlick might pick up the secondary for another helper.

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MushedPeas

catching up on the comments.

I too smh at how Shlepy was handled. Shoulda been plug n play.

OriginalPouzar

Kind of a broken play on the PP and Lafreniere   gets a one-timer in the high shot and buries is to cut the deficit to 3-2.

I’m head down working and kind of just listening in the background – hardly paying attention – sorry.

Tarkus

Lafreniere with his second of the match as his PP one-timer is tipped and eludes the Flames goalie, finishing off a pretty tic-tac-toe. Still trailing 3-2.

Assisted by Akey and Pitlick. Akey looked good on that PP, both distributing and keeping the puck at the blue line like a mini-Bouch.

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Todd Macallan

Really smart short area pass from the backhand by Lafreniere to send Lewandowski in on the partial break.

2minutes4lookingsogood

Wow. They have shots on goal finally.

2minutes4lookingsogood

They haven’t moved since they put them up. Must be figuring it out during intermission.

iwin76

Good period for Day. Savoie and Marjala looking good. Savoie has good positioning and an active stick. Shoulda shot on that 2v1 though. Not much from Howard or Hutson. Not a lot of sustained pressure for Oilers rookies.

OriginalPouzar

Marjala creating more offence taking a pass off the rush and creating a slot shot – no finish…

OriginalPouzar

Flames score on the rebound off a rush – defence is, well, camp invite defence.

Samanski gets throttled, Clattenburg takes exception and sticks out his leg to trip a flame and heads to the box.

2minutes4lookingsogood

They get crushed whenever Akey and Carfagna aren’t out there. Same as last game.

Tarkus

It was Carfagna who got caught too deep in the Calgary zone when the Flames went on the 3-on-1 which led to their goal.

2minutes4lookingsogood

Why no CHED today?

Fibonacci

Paid programming.

OriginalPouzar

Don’t think they sent Bob and Cam down the highway.

OriginalPouzar

Nathanial Day looking sharp – a couple big pressure shifts by the flames with a number of medium danger shots and he just stopped a clear cut breakaway and now just “found the puck” in a scramble.

Savoie carries it in on a 3 on 1……. Clearly looking to pass and was given a lane to the net but didn’t take it – the pass across was good but the camp invite dude couldn’t finish.

2minutes4lookingsogood

Savoie needed to shoot that puck.

OriginalPouzar

Hutson to Savoie on the PP, he carries it behind the net, nifty pass out front to Lafreniere  for a net front chance but no bury this time.

OriginalPouzar

I think it was Lewandowski  with a good forcheck down the boards and behind the net, wins the puck from the lauded Brzustewicz, passes it in front to Lafreniere who buries it

Todd Macallan

Twas indeed Lewandowski. Excellent finish from Lafreniere, almost had a second one shortly after on the PP2.

Tarkus

The top two EDM picks from the ’25 draft connect as Lewandowski wins a race to the pick behind the net, then feeds Lafreniere who zips one shelf for a 1-0 lead.

Now on the PP.

OriginalPouzar

No surprise, Marjala moved up to center Howard and Savoie.

Tarkus

Day-man is getting the start betwixt the pipes.

OriginalPouzar

Berezkin only played 13:12 today – likely do to Loco taking like 7 penalties and he doesn’t kill, to my knowledge.

He had an assist and was even in a 5-4 loss.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

The longer we wait for a McD extension the concerning the situation becomes.

What reason would he have to delay signing other than seriously considering a possible Oilers exit within the next few years.

Reja

Needs to be signed by game 1 if not Stan needs to see a list of teams from Connor and then the unthinkable has to happen for the betterment of this franchise for years to come.

Brantford Boy
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Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

I agree. They cannot enter the season with Connor unsigned. It will be a circus.

OriginalPouzar

His list could be – noone – figuring the Oilers are his best chance to win this season.

OriginalPouzar

No concern from me unless camp opens when he is not re-signed.

For me, this was always going to happen in the period between labor day and the opening of camp and we are still there – running out of days though.

If its not done by camp start, I become more “annoyed” and if it doesn’t happen by the start of the season, well, then I need to reconsider my thoughts.

Traveller

A few key franchise players making $10 MM+ who extended their contracts in the season prior to becoming UFAs at a later relative date than McDavid so far (listed by AAV highest to lowest).

MacKinnon – Sept 20, 2022
Pettersen – Mar 2, 2024
Shesterskin – Dec 6, 2024
Nylander – Jan 8, 2024
Pasternak – Mar 2, 2023
Barkov – Oct 8, 2021

Kopitar also did not sign an extension on his 3rd contract at $10 MM AAV with LA until January 16th, 2016, halfway through his prior contract’s last season. That contract has since expired.

And of note, neither Kaprizov, Eichel nor Panarin has extended yet either. Maybe they are waiting for McDavid, but maybe not.

If McDavid signs in the next 10 days and ahead of the last 3, he will have done it faster than any of these high profile players and if he waits until just before the regular season, only MacKinnon will have been quicker.

So far, McDavid’s timeline is not that unusual relative to many of the NHL’s top players.

Fibonacci

Wondering if Carter Hart will indeed land back in Philly.

The Flyers have just traded goaltender Ivan Fodotov (cap hit $ 3.275 million) to Columbus for a 6th round pick.

The Flyers now have $3.645 million in cap space.

Brantford Boy

God damn, Bogdan Yakimov… I remember McLellan being super excited to see him play in these rookie games. I had to look, only 1 NHL game. At least he can share a story with a beer around his buddies. That Leftorium is crazy to look at these years later. Then there’s that Griffin Reinhart guy… 37 NHL games, le sigh.

Dee Dee

50% of all NHL draft picks never pay a single game, so at least those two guys beat those odds.

OriginalPouzar

Talk is just talk but the verbal on Tomasek, in general and also based on how he’s looked at recent skates, the organization expects this guy to make the Oilers and I’m gleaning they think he can be more than a 12F/13F.

I’ve yet to see him play. Look forward to next Sunday in the split squads.

On Leppanen, he is a key task for Chaulk and Keith M. this year – can they get some structure in to his defensive game? The runway given his age is likely short, that is, NHL games this season at some point, I would think.

I’ve yet to see him play. Look forward to next Sunday in the split squads.

OriginalPouzar

What about Viljami Marjala, as an example? Well, he was in fact drafted in 2021, by the Buffalo Sabres. So Marjala’s five year window will close at the end of the 2025-26 season. I think he has shown there is an NHL talent via his most recent season in Liiga, but he’ll get another year before we have to make the call. If he can slam AHL goaltending at a rate that gets him 40 points in 72 games, I’ll consider him NHL calibre. You may disagree, and that’s fine, but for me that’s a reasonable line in the sand.

I agree with this – at his age, if he’s going to make it, he needs to be able to be an impact top 6 player in the AHL this season.

I was excited to get eyes on him for the first time on Friday and he blew my reasonable expectations out of the water (along with Carfagna – and those two have instantly made me more excited for the Condors’ season).

Hutson in a similar boat (a year old, less pro experience).

OriginalPouzar

A week ago, as an NCAA player, Issac Howard had never even attended a pro camp and I’m not sure he still has as, really, it was one on-ice day of a “rookie camp” and had never played a professional game or game against a pro player (and the flames had full time AHL players from last year on their back-end).

Everything is brand new to this young man and it may take a bit of time at each stage.

In Friday’s game, he got better from the 1st to the 2nd to the 3rd. I suspect to might be quite prominent now in game 2.

Go Ike!

Fibonacci

Seeing some parallels between Howard and the Flames Matt Coronato.

Coronato was a first round pick in 2021 one year before Howard.

Both players spent 2 years playing in the USHL…then went on to the NCAA.

Coronato played only two seasons in college while Howard played three before turning pro.

Coronato split his first pro season between the AHL (41 games) and the NHL (34 games) before sticking as a Flames last season with 24 goals and 47 points. He recently signed a 7 year deal at $6.5 million AAV.

OriginalPouzar

Seems fair.

Reja may lose it but, if he splits this season and is a 25G/50P guy next season, that is a fine result, in my opinion.

Fibonacci

Howard will likely have superior line mates if he plays in the top 6 so could potentially exceed those totals.

Mikael Backlund is not an ideal 2C at this point..

Scungilli Slushy

It’s funny how things often like to align themselves. We are entering the second half for the star players, or the third act, and I think there has been a shift in the organization, and it’s because of Bowman, and for the better

A few were unhappy with the hiring, I wasn’t sure if the banishment might have set his connectedness back too much, or of his record with the Hawks. He had a hit with Bob and talked about the new players

Stan has a very realistic view on those not established. He likes sideburns it seems. He gets what is realistic to expect, and the way he talks about guys, if I was new to the team or young and listening I would be encouraged, would feel like I was being given a real shot. That has not always been the case, at least since Slats left. There always seemed to be some weird thing the team didn’t like that was not always spoken publicly, or expectations were not realistic

Looking at it now, Stan grew up around great teams and has been talking hockey with one of the greatest hockey minds of all time, whenever he wants to. He probably absorbed a thing or two. And we know Scotty is watching the Oilers and they are getting expert opinion for free. Or maybe they are paying him

Years ago I commented on some hockey site that had a thing that I think was ask Scotty a question. He actually answered me and that was kind of a thrill, having been a Habs fan especially, pre Oilers

BornInAGretzkyJersey

A few were unhappy with the hiring

I was vocal in my displeasure with the hire, wasn’t sure if his trade record was a positive or that he would be able to manage the cap and contend. Was unsure if it was a reputation hire or based on merit.

Early results are promising. In truth, while I’m not there yet, I’m looking forward to eating crow.

Buddy

There always seemed to be some weird thing the team didn’t like that was not always spoken publicly

That’s a good observation.

At least the stock covering explanation for it stopped being “well, these are some of the smartest men in hockey” ten or so years ago.

LMHF#1

The handling of Slepyshev was such a screw-up.

The pile of wasted talent from that era is absurd.

Reja

Sleppy had 18-20 goal scoring written all over him for years while doing the grunt work for Leon.

OriginalPouzar

A bit over 11 minutes per game in the 2016/17 playoffs (everyone remembers him so good with Leon but he had 3 points, all goals, in the 12 games).

11:25 in 50 games the next season playing the most with Ryan Strome.

Was he earning more?

It was a while ago but I recall really liking everything he did but he always left you wanting a bit more…..

Scungilli Slushy

I don’t know. Big, fast, not a wall flower, booming shot, probably reminded them too much of that punk Guerin