2019-20 Game 24: Oilers at Kings

It’s been a long time between drinks of water for the Edmonton Oilers in the NHL draft’s fifth round. Miro Satan, Jason Chimera, Walt Poddubny, Shaun Van Allen, and now Ethan Bear. It’s important to note drafting success and for the organization to value it heavily. Those amateur scouts are some of the most important people in an organization. Their success drives team success. Ethan Bear is an important player for the Oilers. Vital that the team cashes another fifth rounder in a more timely fashion. That gap between Bear and Jason Chimera? 18 years.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, less than two coffees a month offer here.

  • New Jonathan Willis: A list of which Oilers are most likely to be traded in 2019-20
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Q&A: Woodcroft on Benson’s ‘gift,’ the next step for Bouchard and acting like a proud parent watching the Oilers
  • New Lowetide: Oilers’ No. 2 prospect winter 2019: Philip Broberg
  • Lowetide: Joel Persson’s demotion highlights difficult adjustment for Oilers’ ‘European showtime’ trio
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman and Jonathan Willis: Evaluating the Oilers’ readiness for the 2021 Seattle expansion draft
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ No. 1 prospect winter 2019: Evan Bouchard
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ college procurement could increase under Ken Holland
  • Jonathan Willis: A shift-by-shift analysis of Caleb Jones in his Oilers season debut
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘Sometimes it’s just unstoppable’: How McDavid and the Oilers’ power play dominated the Avalanche
  • Jonathan Willis: Darnell Nurse, Caleb Jones and the crisis that’s looming in the Oilers’ middle distance
  • Jonathan Willis: Basically, yes, the Oilers should keep Ryan Nugent-Hopkins ‘forever’
  • Lowetide: Why the recall of NHL-ready Caleb Jones should benefit the Oilers in the long run
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Oilers Report Cards: Several drivers make the grade but Edmonton’s bus still has a few passengers
  • Daniel Nugent-BowmanFrom 4 to 97, Oilers both new and old share the stories behind their jersey numbers
  • Jonathan Willis: Could a fall trade improve the fortunes of your NHL team in 2019-20?
  • Lowetide: Analyzing Dave Tippett’s defensive usage and what the Oilers will do when Adam Larsson returns
  • Lowetide: What’s going on with the Bakersfield Condors?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins shines, mad props for Leon Draisaitl and more to like as the Oilers beat the Devils
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: What inexperienced defencemen like the Oilers’ Joel Persson must do to gain their coach’s confidence
  • Lowetide: Oilers are closer to having an effective second line than a year ago, but few have noticed
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: The beauty of a good night’s sleep can be elusive for many NHL players

OILERS AFTER 24 GAMES

  • Oilers in 20158-14-2, 18 points; goal differential -13
  • Oilers in 2016: 12-10-2, 26 points; goal differential +7
  • Oilers in 2017: 9-13-2, 20 points; goal differential -14
  • Oilers in 2018: 11-11-2, 24 points; goal differential -11
  • Oilers in 2019: 14-6-3, 31 points; goal differential +15

The 2016 team went on a heater that saw them close 35-16-7 to finish 47-26-9, 103 points. I don’t think that’s reasonable, but the club’s impressive start means banked points that could be key in April when the season winds down to a precious few games.

OILERS IN NOVEMBER

  • Oilers in November 2015: 3-6-1, seven points; goal differential -5
  • Oilers in November 2016: 3-6-1, seven points; goal differential -8
  • Oilers in November 2017: 4-5-1, nine points; goal differential 0
  • Oilers in November 2018: 4-6-0, eight points; goal differential -6
  • Oilers in November 2019: 5-2-2, 12 points, goal differential +10

Injuries, goalie wobble, weird trades, oh the November rain Oilers fans have seen. And this year? 21 days into a 30-day month and the formula is holding steady.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN NOVEMBER?

  • On the road to: PIT (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: ARI, STL, NJD (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 1-1-1)
  • On the road to: ANA, SJS (Expected 1-0-1) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • At home to: COL, DAL (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-0-1)
  • On the road to: SJS, LAK, VEG, ARI, COL (Expected 2-3-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: VAN (Expected 1-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 7-6-1, 15 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 5-2-2, 12 points in 9 games

This Oilers team outperformed my October projection and looks to be poised to do the same thing in November. Dave Tippett’s keys to the highway seem simple enough. Run 97-29 through the wee wee hours (“sun’s just a red ball rising over them refinery towers”), find some clean air for Nuge and then ramrod the bottom six ragged on the penalty kill. It’s a Tenth Avenue Freeze out with Nurse-Bear and Klefbom-Jones, and a surprisingly delightful (o, o, o, I’m on fire) third pair. Solid goalie duo form the tight rhythm section on the backstreets and you’re born to run.

I hope you can make it out to the event, it’ll be a cool way to watch the game and we’ll have some surprises plus the Q&A. That segment was terrific last time we got together, your input was welcome and several story ideas (like prospect updates on Sundays) grew out of the conversations. I promise you’ll have a good time.

OILERS 2019-20

Ethan Bear has had an impact on this team. NST tells us Bear and Nurse have played 352 minutes at five-on-five this season, winning the shot differential (52.3 percent). They are 19-24 in goals together but have taken on the elites (Puck IQ has both men over 150 minutes at five-on-five, the top totals) and are delivering 47 percent possession and 8-4 goal differential. Both men get credit, but Bear, as a rookie, has delivered in an area of weakness and right on time. Impressive.

CONDORS

The Bakersfield Condors play Stockton this morning at 11 our time. The Condors have yet to take flight and the prospect forwards are running in place but there’s plenty of blacktop.

You know, one of my favourite things is to watch prospects find their way. For instance, Ethan Bear’s emergence this season is, for me, a wonderful result and payment for all the Pouliot’s and Rita’s and Hajt’s and Wajt’s.

The trick is, and I mean this, to cheer like mad but understand these kids can get derailed by so very many things. Here. Pick a year. 1995? Okay. Here are the scoring numbers for Edmonton’s 1995-96 AHL team.

Ryan Smyth was the big star, he was a high pick and delivered in the AHL from opening night (he was 19 here). Dean McAmmond and Mats Lindgren were both first rounders who had careers, McAmmond played forever. Rem Murray had no draft pedigree, Jason Bonsignore was all draft pedigree. Only one of them would have an NHL career. Bottom line: No matter how good you are with AHL numbers or watching games, no matter how well you can break down the video, some will surprise and some will disappoint. So, if you say “Tyler Benson doesn’t look good now, he might be stalling” just stop. It doesn’t work like that. We were fading Ethan Bear last year, now look at him. We don’t know who is going to hit the gym this summer and we don’t know who is going to catch a rut in a game in March. This prospect thing is not an exact science.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A loaded show this morning, TSN1260 beginning at 10. The Mayor John Hoven will join us in hour one and Frank Seravalli will pop in during hour two, plus we are working on another guest surrounding the Babcock firing. Wild times. 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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  1. Leroy Draisdale says:

    verdad2.0:
    Worst team in West losing to next worst
    Incredible failure
    GM asleep

    I think the Oilers management is just fine……the Verdad organization on the other hand needs to do a forensic audit. They upgraded to version 2.0 but there is literally no difference from the original. Certainly no improvement 😉

  2. Munny says:

    Pulling Smith was the right thing to do.

    Starting the 2nd with 97 on the ice was definitely the right thing to do.

  3. oilersfan says:

    Woot

    If only that one with four seconds left hadn’t happened it would be a one goal game

  4. drglen says:

    argh.. don’t pass up a shot in the slot!!!

  5. Munny says:

    I’m not sure how many forecheck goals we’ve seen like that from McDavid, but if he adds that to his arsenal…

  6. Gerta Rauss says:

    i’m gonna go out on a limb and say this is a big kill

  7. OriginalPouzar says:

    rickithebear:
    Fact:
    If you do not diferentiate open and closed shots.
    You cannot accurately comment on goalie performance.
    Nothing worse than low resolution “ fake Analytics”

    Fact: The above is opinion, not fact.

  8. Ice Sage says:

    That’s a terrible call.

  9. drglen says:

    what? I did not see a penalty

  10. Munny says:

    Not sure what KBomb was trying to accomplish there behind the net on th PK

  11. Material Elvis says:

    Good start to the period. Windy as F in this arena.

  12. rickithebear says:

    Just rewatched the first 2 goals.

    When I first started looking at goalie movement.
    I talked to local adult goalies.

    Their comment matched the shot success I observed thru much video.
    Drawing glove down towards the body is a very unnatural action.

    Shot above pad requiring a drawn arm/ glove is the perfect shot for open targeting with almost zero chance of missed/counter attack.

    Even though uppwer net shots have a higher success rate. The miss rate of up net targeted Corsi is huge. Bad for counter play.

    First 2 shot were perfect open shots.

    I nteligent shooting is Open and limited free path counter attack.

  13. Munny says:

    Drai was turnover-breakaway hunting there on the PK. Looked like a bird dog.

  14. Munny says:

    Klef with the non-hit?

  15. drglen says:

    good action right now

  16. Munny says:

    LA winning a lot of possession battles. We’re in troub again.

  17. Gerta Rauss says:

    Nygard just needs 2 or 3 more breakaways and he’ll get one

  18. Munny says:

    How many times have we seen that Brown shot In our lives,

    Nygard again!

    Again.

  19. BONE207 says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    Nygard with a breakaway…no dice

    It was deja vous for this one…

  20. Zelepukin says:

    wow 2 breakaways for Nygard now.

  21. drglen says:

    nyaggard!!!! cannot seem to score. arg..

  22. Material Elvis says:

    Knee Guard needs to bury one of these five bell chances.

  23. Halfwise says:

    Scungilli Slushy: Which poetic metre is this?

    Moronic spentametre?

  24. Munny says:

    Jesus H

  25. drglen says:

    Chaisson has made 3 poor deflection giveaway passes so far.. cmon man.

  26. Material Elvis says:

    Goalie interference

  27. Younger Oil says:

    Whenever Alex Chaisson has control of the puck, the next player to touch the puck is very rarely an Edmonton Oilers player.

  28. Gerta Rauss says:

    aye aye aye

  29. drglen says:

    that goal, we needed a stop

  30. Material Elvis says:

    Material Elvis:
    Goalie interference

    By his own player.

  31. BONE207 says:

    Of course Carter would get an Oilers gift for his 1000th game.

    Now 4-1…bastards!!!

  32. Zelepukin says:

    There has been too many odd man rushes this game.

  33. Munny says:

    I don’t think the review is going to help us, that was Haas.

  34. oilersfan says:

    Dagger

    Why is Chiasson always in the lineup and Gagner is not?

  35. OriginalPouzar says:

    Caleb Jones having a really really tough game.

    All for of Klef/Jones and Russell/Larsson having a tough game.

  36. drglen says:

    get one more back in the second, still in reach

  37. Ice Sage says:

    That’s game.
    I’ll give advance credit to Maclellan that he’ll know how to clog this one down from here on in.
    Oilers have got a lot of breaks this year, this one is going the other way.
    Next.

  38. drglen says:

    we are a bit unlucky tonight also

  39. drglen says:

    and they get a powerplay, what the hell is this..

  40. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Halfwise: Moronic spentametre?

    Ha

  41. GMB3 says:

    Munny:
    LA winning a lot of possession battles. We’re in troub again.

    Yeah. Oilers forwards getting caught deep in transition too.

    Might be one of those 25 losses that LT references

  42. Gerta Rauss says:

    another nice kill but I think this one is one of those nights you’re gonna lose no matter what

  43. McSorley33 says:

    Caleb Jones charges out to attack that King sortie…..why?

  44. Munny says:

    Great backcheck and finish by Kass

  45. drglen says:

    looking like klebom and russel

  46. Munny says:

    Highly material save by Koskinen

  47. drglen says:

    great game saving stop, koskinen… oh wait, not sure game is savable, but great stop

  48. Harpers Hair says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Caleb Jones having a really really tough game.

    All for of Klef/Jones and Russell/Larsson having a tough game.

    But he’s better than Cale Makar.
    Right?

  49. Scungilli Slushy says:

    oilersfan:
    Dagger

    Why is Chiasson always in the lineup and Gagner is not?

    What’s the diff? Neither do diddly and are constantly behind the play because they can’t close on anyone. Neal is almost worse excepting he can finish if completely set up. But still better than Milan.

  50. BONE207 says:

    A PP goal now would go a long way to keep me interested…😁

  51. OriginalPouzar says:

    HarpersHair: But he’s better than Cale Makar.
    Right?

    1) Caleb Jones and Ethan Bear are different people

    2) Noone said that either Ethan Bear or Caleb Jones is better than Cale Makar

  52. BeerMe says:

    penalty right after mcdavid came out flying and scored, then they faded away slowly. they look discombobulated now.

  53. drglen says:

    77 for LA is a very good penatly killer

  54. geowal says:

    Harpers Hair: But he’s better than Cale Makar.
    Right?

    Do you ever actually just watch the game which is the subject of the thread and manage a comment that is only about said game?

  55. Scungilli Slushy says:

    I can’t wait to see how Lagesson looks in the bigs.

    Jones needs more time in the A IMO. NHL wheels or better but I’m not seeing the rest of it. It’s time for Bear to take a bump down the pairings as well, hopefully Larsson can get up to speed soon.

  56. Munny says:

    We have no pp.

  57. BONE207 says:

    That 5 L PP formation was…ummm…schusse

  58. Harpers Hair says:

    OriginalPouzar: 1) Caleb Jones and Ethan Bear are different people

    2) Noone said that either Ethan Bear or Caleb Jones is better than Cale Makar

    You did.

  59. Material Elvis says:

    Why did LT say we missed DSF?

  60. drglen says:

    they are really cheating on the ‘klefbom fades and passes to connor’ play on the PP’ it’s not working. It almost worked… but the lane is not there. They’ve been coached agasint that play.. .

    wny not fade to Nuge?

  61. Material Elvis says:

    BONE207:
    That 5 L PP formation was…ummm…schusse

    Too slow. The last few games the PP puck movement was quick. Nothing is rhyming today.

  62. Munny says:

    Stupid stupid passes

  63. Leroy Draisdale says:

    don’t usually drink during the week…..this game is driving me to it. Maybe it will help the boys…kinger style

  64. OriginalPouzar says:

    HarpersHair: You did.

    I certainly did not – I have done nothing but praise Makar, all season long.

  65. Munny says:

    Material Elvis:
    Why did LT say we missed DSF?

    He’s actually only here when the Oil are having a good season.

    I’m pretty sure he’s our good luck charm.

  66. Gerta Rauss says:

    Leroy Draisdale:
    don’t usually drink during the week…..this game is driving me to it. Maybe it will help the boys…kinger style

    doubles…..order doubles..!

  67. BONE207 says:

    Material Elvis: Too slow.The last few games the PP puck movement was quick.Nothing is rhyming today.

    Playing to competition?
    Not ready?
    Underestimating?
    Bad luck…shitty breakaways?

  68. drglen says:

    penalty to Khaira? no way, that was just hard checking

  69. Material Elvis says:

    BONE207: Playing to competition?
    Not ready?
    Underestimating?
    Bad luck…shitty breakaways?

    All of the above.

  70. BONE207 says:

    Material Elvis:
    Why did LT say we missed DSF?

    Something something…hair on soap…something

  71. Material Elvis says:

    Gerta Rauss: doubles…..order doubles..!

    I’ve tried this….. not working.

  72. Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual says:

    Harpers Hair: You did.

    And you said McDavid and Draisaitl’s well over point-per-game numbers from “a Tuesday in February to a Wednesday in April” last season were “not pretty”. Amazing how wrong some people can be.

  73. Leroy Draisdale says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    Its definitely a double at least. Unfortunately I only have rye not bourbon.

  74. oilersfan says:

    Tippet complained about the lack of maturity against San Jose last week and he is 100% right

    This team loses to the worst teams in the league on the road regularly

    Thinks they can show up and win with a 60% effort

    Don’t back check

    Don’t play with intensity on the PP

    Play a good game then think they can win based on the last game’s effort

  75. rickithebear says:

    OriginalPouzar: Fact: The above is opinion, not fact.

    According to you shots that hit goalies and have zero% chance of going in cause of dman pressure are the same as shots that have a greater than 37+% chance ( open) from dman failing to pressure the corsi. Usually to abandonment.

    This is your SOE logic operational sequence description common in machine mechanical science and engineering.

    Not Opinion.

    I provide SOE logical operational sequence descriptions.
    Science.
    I identify risk ( bad result) from studied SOE operational failure.
    I identify succes from studied SOE operational success.

    Machines have all kinds of SOE electronic logic devices and PLC programming to critical Instrumentation fail saves.

    Neither are opinion.

    I had an experience like that Talking to MRC construction management at Albion Sand site.
    When Emad Elzain and I identified as series of machine SOE (fan path operation logic, building position establishing vent paths, open tank elevations.)
    A mental modeling.

    We told them their would be a huge fire when they started process train tests.
    They were fucking arrogant managers who did not understand SOE requiring grade 8 (according to Power Eng programs) thinking.

    We analyzed an expected damage area, did up a refurbishment construction packing with timeline and and all equipment replacement lists.

    We sent it out to ranking Shell downstream managers we knew. Less than 1 hr after industry knew of the fire.
    You end up with a lot of people going “ how the fuck did we get a repair package for a fire that is still burning.”

    That is why we got the chance to present a proposal on independent feild as- build eng analysis company to act on behalf of companies like, Syncrude, Sun Cor, Shell reviewing all the sub firms like Colt, Bechtel, Bantrel, SNC Lavalin, Etc.

    SOE machine action is critical analytics.

    Not fucking opinion.

    You are showing the SOE logic strength of MRC managers.

    I still respect and enjoy your input.

    But clearly understanding what can be ten fold multi variant human Machine action SOE outcome is not you thing.
    The last statement is an opinion based on your comment.

  76. OriginalPouzar says:

    UnfriendlyRegionalArachnidIndividual: And you said McDavid and Draisaitl’s well over point-per-game numbers from “a Tuesday in February to a Wednesday in April” were “not pretty”. Amazing how wrong some people can be.

    Except, in this case, I wasn’t wrong about anything – what he said was completely made up.

  77. Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual says:

    OriginalPouzar: Except, in this case, I wasn’t wrong about anything – what he said was completely made up.

    So yet another case of him being objectively wrong? My surprise can barely be contained.

  78. OriginalPouzar says:

    rickithebear: According to you shots that hit goalies and have zero% chance of going in cause of dman pressure are the same as shots that have a greater than 37+% chance ( open) from dman failing to pressure the corsi. Usually to abandonment.

    This is your SOE logic operational sequence description common in machine mechanical science and engineering.

    Not Opinion.

    I provide SOE logical operational sequence descriptions.
    Science.
    I identify risk ( bad result) from studied SOE operational failure.
    I identify succes from studied SOE operational success.

    Machines have all kinds of SOE electronic logic devices and PLC programming to critical Instrumentation fail saves.

    Neither are opinion.

    I had an experience like that Talking to MRC construction management at Albion Sand site.
    When Emad Elzain and I identified as series of machine SOE (fan path operation logic, building position establishing vent paths, open tank elevations.)
    A mental modeling.

    We told them their would be a huge fire when they started process train tests.
    They were fucking arrogant managers who did not understand SOE requiring grade 8 (according to Power Eng programs) thinking.

    We analyzed an expecteddamage area, did up a refurbishment construction packing with timeline and and all equipment replacement lists.

    We sent it out to ranking Shell downstream managers we knew. Less than 1 hr after industry knew of the fire.
    You end up with a lot of people going “ how the fuck did we get a repair package for a fire that is still burning.”

    That is why we got the chance to present a proposal on independent feild as- build eng analysis company to act on behalf of companies like, Syncrude, Sun Cor, Shell reviewing all the sub firms like Colt, Bechtel, Bantrel, SNC Lavalin, Etc.

    SOE machine action is critical analytics.

    Not fucking opinion.

    You are showing the SOE logic strength of MRC managers.

    I still respect and enjoy your input.

    But clearly understanding what can be ten fold multi variant human Machine action SOE outcome is not you thing.
    The last statement is an opinion based on your comment.

    Unless you believe my theory you cannot have an opinion – that is not fact, that is opinion in itself.

    Also, “according to you….” – ummm, no, nothing you said was “according to me”.

  79. BONE207 says:

    Leroy Draisdale:
    Gerta Rauss,

    Its definitely a double at least. Unfortunately I only have rye not bourbon.

    You need the gluten to hold all your voodoo together. That’s how I believe most faith based religions work.

  80. rickithebear says:

    OriginalPouzar: 1) Caleb Jones and Ethan Bear are different people

    2) Noone said that either Ethan Bear or Caleb Jones is better than Cale Makar

    Details:

    Better People?

    OriginalPouzar: Fact: The above is opinion, not fact.

    According to you shots that hit goalies and have zero% chance of going in cause of dman pressure are the same as shots that have a greater than 37+% chance ( open) from dman failing to pressure the corsi. Usually to abandonment.

    This is your SOE logic operational sequence description common in machine mechanical science and engineering.

    Not Opinion.

    I provide SOE logical operational sequence descriptions.
    Science.
    I identify risk ( bad result) from studied SOE operational failure.
    I identify succes from studied SOE operational success.

    Machines have all kinds of SOE electronic logic devices and PLC programming to critical Instrumentation fail saves.

    Neither are opinion.

    I had an experience like that Talking to MRC construction management at Albion Sand site.
    When Emad Elzain and I identified as series of machine SOE (fan path operation logic, building position establishing vent paths, open tank elevations.)
    A mental modeling.

    We told them their would be a huge fire when they started process train tests.
    They were fucking arrogant managers who did not understand SOE requiring grade 8 (according to Power Eng programs) thinking.

    We analyzed an expected damage area, did up a refurbishment construction packing with timeline and and all equipment replacement lists.

    We sent it out to ranking Shell downstream managers we knew. Less than 1 hr after industry knew of the fire.
    You end up with a lot of people going “ how the fuck did we get a repair package for a fire that is still burning.”

    That is why we got the chance to present a proposal on independent feild as- build eng analysis company to act on behalf of companies like, Syncrude, Sun Cor, Shell reviewing all the sub firms like Colt, Bechtel, Bantrel, SNC Lavalin, Etc.

    SOE machine action is critical analytics.

    Not fucking opinion.

    You are showing the SOE logic strength of MRC managers.

    I still respect and enjoy your input.

    But clearly understanding what can be ten fold multi variant human Machine action SOE outcome is not you thing.
    The last statement is an opinion based on your comment.

    OriginalPouzar: Fact: The above is opinion, not fact.

    According to you shots that hit goalies and have zero% chance of going in cause of dman pressure are the same as shots that have a greater than 37+% chance ( open) from dman failing to pressure the corsi. Usually to abandonment.

    This is your SOE logic operational sequence description common in machine mechanical science and engineering.

    Not Opinion.

    I provide SOE logical operational sequence descriptions.
    Science.
    I identify risk ( bad result) from studied SOE operational failure.
    I identify succes from studied SOE operational success.

    Machines have all kinds of SOE electronic logic devices and PLC programming to critical Instrumentation fail saves.

    Neither are opinion.

    I had an experience like that Talking to MRC construction management at Albion Sand site.
    When Emad Elzain and I identified as series of machine SOE (fan path operation logic, building position establishing vent paths, open tank elevations.)
    A mental modeling.

    We told them their would be a huge fire when they started process train tests.
    They were fucking arrogant managers who did not understand SOE requiring grade 8 (according to Power Eng programs) thinking.

    We analyzed an expected damage area, did up a refurbishment construction packing with timeline and and all equipment replacement lists.

    We sent it out to ranking Shell downstream managers we knew. Less than 1 hr after industry knew of the fire.
    You end up with a lot of people going “ how the fuck did we get a repair package for a fire that is still burning.”

    That is why we got the chance to present a proposal on independent feild as- build eng analysis company to act on behalf of companies like, Syncrude, Sun Cor, Shell reviewing all the sub firms like Colt, Bechtel, Bantrel, SNC Lavalin, Etc.

    SOE machine action is critical analytics.

    Not fucking opinion.

    You are showing the SOE logic strength of MRC managers.

    I still respect and enjoy your input.

    But clearly understanding what can be ten fold multi variant human Machine action SOE outcome is not you thing.
    The last statement is an opinion based on your comment.

    Better people?
    Better conversationalists?
    Better spellers?

    Better Hockey players!

    Which is better?
    Better in reg season
    Or
    better in cup final. ( top ga team)

  81. Lowetide says:

    After 40:

    4-1 LAK (1-1 in the second)
    22-19 LAK (10-6 in the second)
    33-28 LAK Corsi five-on-five (13-7 in the second)
    ==

    Oilers have this habit of either being laser focused from the opening faceoff or lacking attention to detail from the start. Some youth in the lineup but not a lot. Either way this team has provided great entertainment this year. Not tonight, though.

  82. drglen says:

    well there have been stretches of great hockey, but we are getting the worst of the exchanges.

  83. Material Elvis says:

    rickithebear: Details:

    Better People?

    According to you shots that hit goalies and have zero% chance of going in cause of dman pressure are the same as shots that have a greater than 37+% chance ( open) from dman failing to pressure the corsi. Usually to abandonment.

    This is your SOE logic operational sequence description common in machine mechanical science and engineering.

    Not Opinion.

    I provide SOE logical operational sequence descriptions.
    Science.
    I identify risk ( bad result) from studied SOE operational failure.
    I identify succes from studied SOE operational success.

    Machines have all kinds of SOE electronic logic devices and PLC programming to critical Instrumentation fail saves.

    Neither are opinion.

    I had an experience like that Talking to MRC construction management at Albion Sand site.
    When Emad Elzain and I identified as series of machine SOE (fan path operation logic, building position establishing vent paths, open tank elevations.)
    A mental modeling.

    We told them their would be a huge fire when they started process train tests.
    They were fucking arrogant managers who did not understand SOE requiring grade 8 (according to Power Eng programs) thinking.

    We analyzed an expecteddamage area, did up a refurbishment construction packing with timeline and and all equipment replacement lists.

    We sent it out to ranking Shell downstream managers we knew. Less than 1 hr after industry knew of the fire.
    You end up with a lot of people going “ how the fuck did we get a repair package for a fire that is still burning.”

    That is why we got the chance to present a proposal on independent feild as- build eng analysis company to act on behalf of companies like, Syncrude, Sun Cor, Shell reviewing all the sub firms like Colt, Bechtel, Bantrel, SNC Lavalin, Etc.

    SOE machine action is critical analytics.

    Not fucking opinion.

    You are showing the SOE logic strength of MRC managers.

    I still respect and enjoy your input.

    But clearly understanding what can be ten fold multi variant human Machine action SOE outcome is not you thing.
    The last statement is an opinion based on your comment.

    According to you shots that hit goalies and have zero% chance of going in cause of dman pressure are the same as shots that have a greater than 37+% chance ( open) from dman failing to pressure the corsi. Usually to abandonment.

    This is your SOE logic operational sequence description common in machine mechanical science and engineering.

    Not Opinion.

    I provide SOE logical operational sequence descriptions.
    Science.
    I identify risk ( bad result) from studied SOE operational failure.
    I identify succes from studied SOE operational success.

    Machines have all kinds of SOE electronic logic devices and PLC programming to critical Instrumentation fail saves.

    Neither are opinion.

    I had an experience like that Talking to MRC construction management at Albion Sand site.
    When Emad Elzain and I identified as series of machine SOE (fan path operation logic, building position establishing vent paths, open tank elevations.)
    A mental modeling.

    We told them their would be a huge fire when they started process train tests.
    They were fucking arrogant managers who did not understand SOE requiring grade 8 (according to Power Eng programs) thinking.

    We analyzed an expecteddamage area, did up a refurbishment construction packing with timeline and and all equipment replacement lists.

    We sent it out to ranking Shell downstream managers we knew. Less than 1 hr after industry knew of the fire.
    You end up with a lot of people going “ how the fuck did we get a repair package for a fire that is still burning.”

    That is why we got the chance to present a proposal on independent feild as- build eng analysis company to act on behalf of companies like, Syncrude, Sun Cor, Shell reviewing all the sub firms like Colt, Bechtel, Bantrel, SNC Lavalin, Etc.

    SOE machine action is critical analytics.

    Not fucking opinion.

    You are showing the SOE logic strength of MRC managers.

    I still respect and enjoy your input.

    But clearly understanding what can be ten fold multi variant human Machine action SOE outcome is not you thing.
    The last statement is an opinion based on your comment.

    Better people?
    Better conversationalists?
    Better spellers?

    Better Hockey players!

    Which is better?
    Better in reg season
    Or
    better in cup final. ( top ga team)

    NewAgeSys?

  84. drglen says:

    a goal here makes it interesting.

  85. Munny says:

    Drai completely snakebit on that shift.

  86. BONE207 says:

    I just realized that Nugey defending the puck with 1 hand on the stick is not the same as when Drai does it…🤣

  87. Munny says:

    McDavid took Quick by surprise there.

    out-quicked.

  88. Material Elvis says:

    Knee Guard with another glorious chance.

  89. Munny says:

    We’re up to once a period now where Night Guard looks like an actual NHL player.

  90. BONE207 says:

    Nygard may as well play ringette. Putting a blade on his stick is a waste of lumber.

  91. Zelepukin says:

    Munny:
    We’re up to once a period now where Night Guard looks like an actual NHL player.

    And Jones does not.

    Bear still making just sublime small little plays on breakout passes.

  92. Material Elvis says:

    Chiasson is fuckin useless.

  93. Zelepukin says:

    how was that not quincys?

  94. drglen says:

    OK… I’ve had enough of Chaisson… let him sit in the press box. Ineffective game, dumb plays, takes a retal penatly… sit him

  95. BONE207 says:

    THat…is a cross check???
    My dentist has used a tongue depresser with more malicious zeal.

  96. Munny says:

    I really appreciate the refs seeing that as offsetting penalties.

  97. Munny says:

    All Bear does is find the outlet. Some how some way

  98. BONE207 says:

    Jesus the reffing sucks

  99. Munny says:

    Agree with DeBrusk there. Some good shifts in a row.

  100. rickithebear says:

    Watched third goal:

    Nurse down low in OZ
    Asking Draisaitl to be dman.
    Nurse not pick up Toffoli who is moving to center NZ
    Draisaitl stops flip out
    Passes out to Mcdavid standard fwd play, rather than ringing it.
    Toffoli tips puck away from Mcdavid cause Nurse did not follow.
    Odd man Counter in other direction
    Cause of Nurse initial response in OZ.
    Perimeter closed shot
    Drai losing carter.
    5 hole opens during closed shot. ( not unusual)
    Rebound
    Carter retrieval ( new phase)
    Uncovered open shot for goal.

  101. Pescador says:

    Material Elvis:
    Knee Guard with another glorious miss.

    Fixed

  102. BONE207 says:

    Throwback night.
    Jeff Carter appreciation with references to the Stanley cup days.
    Oilers playing like they did those DOD days.
    Reffing a throwback to the 70s.

  103. BONE207 says:

    rickithebear:
    Watched third goal:

    Nurse down low in OZ
    Asking Draisaitl to be dman.
    Nurse not pick up Toffoli who is moving to center NZ
    Draisaitl stops flip out
    Passes out to Mcdavid standard fwd play, rather than ringing it.
    Toffoli tips puck away from Mcdavid cause Nurse did not follow.
    Odd man Counter in other direction
    Cause of Nurse initial response in OZ.
    Perimeter closed shot
    Drai losing carter.
    5 hole opens during closed shot. ( not unusual)
    Rebound
    Carter retrieval ( new phase)
    Uncovered open shot for goal.

    To think I just thought a bunch of guys fucked up.
    Good breakdown

  104. BONE207 says:

    I’m so glad we had this time together…🎶

  105. BeerMe says:

    mcdavid misses the net by 10 feet

  106. Gerta Rauss says:

    Well then

    On to Vegas

  107. OriginalPouzar says:

    Ugly game.

    Opportunity wasted.

    Oh well – on to Vegas on Saturday.

    Oilers still with a 3 point lead in the Pacific with 3 games left before US Thanksgiving.

  108. Zelepukin says:

    Just a poorly executed game from the first shift on.

  109. Zelepukin says:

    Things I noticed:

    Chiasson is not an improvement on any other player not playing.
    Jones is not an NHL player yet.
    Larsson is probably a game or two away from shaking the cobwebs off.
    Drai and McD need to put in more effort on the defensive side. Cheating the play way too often.
    Haas falls down a lot.
    Bear is truly amazing at breaking the puck out.

  110. v4ance says:

    Mike Smith wasn’t sharp. 3-0 first. Game over

  111. Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual says:

    Zelepukin:
    Things I noticed:

    Chiasson is not an improvement on any other player not playing.
    Jones is not an NHL player yet.
    Larsson is probably a game or two away from shaking the cobwebs off.
    Drai and McD need to put in more effort on the defensive side. Cheating the play way too often.
    Haas falls down a lot.
    Bear is truly amazing at breaking the puck out.

    Also, there’s no middle ground with Smith; either he’s on or he’s completely lost.

  112. Munny says:

    v4ance:
    Mike Smith wasn’t sharp.3-0 first.Game over

    That was the biggest story IMO too. Smith didn’t have it (it happens) and we were on our heels for the rest of the game. Couldn’t busta rhyme, maintain sustain, catch a break, or get a call.

    Stick a fork in it. Done like dinner.

  113. Munny says:

    Dreamy bombs out another 26 minutes tonight.

    Drai -3 and point-less. I would not want to be the next team he faces.

  114. who says:

    verdad2.0:
    Wretched team
    I mean the Oilers
    Holland is totally useless
    At least Dubas fires a coach for ineptitude
    Disgusting

    Just to clarify.
    THIS IS NOT WHO.

  115. Leroy Draisdale says:

    Zelepukin:
    Things I noticed:

    Chiasson is not an improvement on any other player not playing.
    Jones is not an NHL player yet.
    Larsson is probably a game or two away from shaking the cobwebs off.
    Drai and McD need to put in more effort on the defensive side. Cheating the play way too often.
    Haas falls down a lot.
    Bear is truly amazing at breaking the puck out.

    QFT

  116. SwedishPoster says:

    Hate when they piss away games the first twenty…and then take dumb penalties whenever there’s some positive momentum. Makes for a boring game. A couple of positionsspel blunders on D and Smith having a bleedy night and that’s it.

    Nygård needs to score on at least one of his primo chances. It’s kind of his mo though, creating a lot more than he’s converting. On the positive side it’s a good sign he’s getting more involved offensively, looked more like his SHL self than the shy NHL version we’ve seen thus far. Hopefully he can keep that part going and sharpen up the finish going forward.

    Oh well let’s make sure the house doesn’t win in Vegreville and all is forgiven.

  117. Professor Q says:

    who: Just to clarify.
    THIS IS NOT WHO.

    To whom are you referring?

  118. Professor Q says:

    So, what the heck happened to Chiasson this year? It’s like he magically forgot how he was playing last season.

  119. jp says:

    drglen: all i got is celery and not in the mood for celery juice

    This has never happened to me btw.

  120. OriginalPouzar says:

    Munny:
    Dreamy bombs out another 26 minutes tonight.

    Drai -3 and point-less. I would not want to be the next team he faces.

    Leon knows it too:

    “If your supposedly best players play the way I did,” said Leon Draisaitl after a 5-1 loss to the last place Los Angeles Kings, “you’re not gonna go very far.”

  121. OriginalPouzar says:

    ProfessorQ:
    So, what the heck happened to Chiasson this year? It’s like he magically forgot how he was playing last season.

    This is how Chiasson played for most of last season.

  122. jp says:

    OriginalPouzar: This is how Chiasson played for most of last season.

    Nah, he wasn’t quite this bad.

    0.8 P/60 so far. He was better than that (still bad, mind you) even without McDavid/Draisaitl/Nuge last year.

  123. verdad2.0 says:

    Does Ken Holland even watch this team?
    His abject incompetence is now burying this team.
    The team has maybe 4 decent forwards and nothing else.
    And a defense with truly deficient players such as Nurse, Larsson and Russell.
    Playing Smith is insane. He never could stop pucks with any consistently. Goaltending is about stopping the shots that should be stopped. A standard Smith cannot reach.
    Yet Holland does nothing , absolutely nothing.
    Losing the next 3 games will pretty much end the season’s hopes for respectability.
    The window to trade with Toronto now probably over.
    At Dubas has the fortitude to fire Babcock, and Leafs are instantly turned around.
    Earn your money Holland.
    Losing to the Kings is a disgrace and you need to fess up to that.
    Or do you care?

  124. BONE207 says:

    verdadisanass2.0,

    Ever thought of taking up a hobby…like bomb making for example?

  125. Pescador says:

    who: Just to clarify.
    THIS IS NOT WHO.

    Of course not,
    Its your burner account

  126. Pescador says:

    verdad2.0:
    Does Ken Holland even watch this team?
    His abject incompetence is now burying this team.
    The team has maybe 4 decent forwards and nothing else.
    And a defense with truly deficient players such as Nurse, Larsson and Russell.
    Playing Smith is insane. He never could stop pucks with any consistently. Goaltending is about stopping the shots that should be stopped. A standard Smith cannot reach.
    Yet Holland does nothing , absolutely nothing.
    Losing the next 3 games will pretty much end the season’s hopes for respectability.
    The window to trade with Toronto now probably over.
    At Dubas has the fortitude to fire Babcock, and Leafs are instantly turned around.
    Earn your money Holland.
    Losing to the Kings is a disgrace and you need to fess up to that.
    Or do you care?

    Man you put a lot of eeffort into a post that nobody will read.
    I sometimes glance over your dogshit just to laugh at what
    a fucking kook you are

  127. verdad2.0 says:

    BONE207,

    Ad hominen attacks
    Look at the substance of the comment
    Holland has done nothing except get rid of Lucic

    Keeping Sekera would have been more useful, look at Dallas

    The team has no quality forwards but for 4 players. And yet he has done nothing to fix it
    And Smith is done. Why is he not on waivers?

  128. verdad2.0 says:

    Pescador,

    A Oiler fan of longer duration than you probably.
    Look at the substance of the comments.
    Who can deny that Holland is idle and the team is grossly imperfect.
    With no sign of trying to improve it.

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