2019-20 Game 25: Oilers at Golden Knights

by Lowetide

At last we arrive at Tabernac Saturday and the Oilers playing a night game for the faithtful to get silly over. Giant beer kegs and wine in every possible container, with hard liquor and sipping liqueurs and whatever the hell brandy is, they’re all getting drink drank drunk tonight. It’s hockey night in Canada! Can you hear the music???

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, less than two coffees a month offer here.

New Lowetide: Why Dave Tippett’s deployment is a sign the Oilers need a No. 3 centre

New Jonathan Willis: A Jesse Puljujarvi trade is an opportunity of which only one NHL team gets to take advantage

  • New Daniel Nugent-BowmanLeon Draisaitl takes the blame as the Oilers’ struggles against lowly foes continues
  • Jonathan Willis: A list of which Oilers are most likely to be traded in 2019-20
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Q&A: Woodcroft on Benson’s ‘gift,’ the next step for Bouchard and acting like a proud parent watching the Oilers
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ No. 2 prospect winter 2019: Philip Broberg
  • Lowetide: Joel Persson’s demotion highlights difficult adjustment for Oilers’ ‘European showtime’ trio
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman and Jonathan Willis: Evaluating the Oilers’ readiness for the 2021 Seattle expansion draft
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ No. 1 prospect winter 2019: Evan Bouchard
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ college procurement could increase under Ken Holland
  • Jonathan Willis: A shift-by-shift analysis of Caleb Jones in his Oilers season debut
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘Sometimes it’s just unstoppable’: How McDavid and the Oilers’ power play dominated the Avalanche
  • Jonathan Willis: Darnell Nurse, Caleb Jones and the crisis that’s looming in the Oilers’ middle distance
  • Jonathan Willis: Basically, yes, the Oilers should keep Ryan Nugent-Hopkins ‘forever’
  • Lowetide: Why the recall of NHL-ready Caleb Jones should benefit the Oilers in the long run
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Oilers Report Cards: Several drivers make the grade but Edmonton’s bus still has a few passengers

TONIGHT!

There’s still time to book your tickets (here) for tonight’s get-together at the Rec Room WEM! There will be a Q. and A. (ask me anything!), a great game between the Oilers and Vegas, plus drink tickets for the first 50 people through the door. It is FREE for subscribers to The Athletic and you get to bring someone! We did this a year ago and had a great conversation with lots of input from you. I really hope you can make it, please register if you haven’t already. If you’re not a subscriber, the offer above will cost you two coffees a month and it’s well worth it. Not just for Daniel, Jon and myself with Oilers coverage, but Corey Pronman and Scott Wheeler draft articles and more. It’s an amazing site, I promise. See you tonight!

OILERS AFTER 25 GAMES

  • Oilers in 2015: 8-15-2, 18 points; goal differential -14
  • Oilers in 2016: 13-10-2, 28 points; goal differential +7
  • Oilers in 2017: 10-13-2, 22 points; goal differential -13
  • Oilers in 2018: 12-11-2, 26 points; goal differential -5
  • Oilers in 2019: 14-7-3, 31 points; goal differential +11

Now is the time to win some games. Edmonton is 1-1-0 on this road trip and I’ve bet (below) the next three games will go 1-2-0. The Oilers would be doing themselves an enormous favour by winning two of the next three. Vegas is not an easy place but Edmonton has had some success against VGK, going 4-4-0 since the expansion team entered the league.

OILERS IN NOVEMBER

  • Oilers in November 2015: 3-6-2, eight points; goal differential -6
  • Oilers in November 2016: 4-6-1, nine points; goal differential -3
  • Oilers in November 2017: 4-6-1, nine points; goal differential -5
  • Oilers in November 2018: 4-6-1, nine points; goal differential -7
  • Oilers in November 2019: 5-3-2, 12 points, goal differential +6

The gales of November normally come early to Edmonton’s Oilers, but this year has been anomalous. Sweet music! Alas, the team must avoid a losing streak. Tonight and tomorrow are big. Look at the goal differential! Holy Dave Tippett!

WHAT TO EXPECT IN NOVEMBER

  • On the road to: PIT (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: ARI, STL, NJD (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 1-1-1)
  • On the road to: ANA, SJS (Expected 1-0-1) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • At home to: COL, DAL (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-0-1)
  • On the road to: SJS, LAK, VEG, ARI, COL (Expected 2-3-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • At home to: VAN (Expected 1-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 7-6-1, 15 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 5-3-2, 12 points in 10 games

If Edmonton can go 2-2-0 from here to the end of the month, they’ll finish 7-5-2 and exceed (by one point) my prediction. The team’s record would be 16-9-3, 35 points after 28 games. That projects to 103 points, a perfect match for the 2016-17 Oilers.

OILERS 2019-20

Several comments here on the blog and online have me wondering if we agree on the order of importance currently for Edmonton’s pro defensemen. Including the Condors, and understanding things could change in the future, my list from most to least valuable is (1-14): Klefbom, Nurse, Bouchard, Larsson, Bear, Jones, Benning, Samorukov, Lagesson, Russell, Persson, Day, Manning, Lowe.

Your mileage may vary, and I might put Bouchard ahead of Nurse on another day (especially after the next contract), but that’s about where I am with each man’s future at this time. I will add that Larsson jumps right up to No. 2 as soon as he shows last season was an outlier. What is your list? Love to know.

CONDORS 2019-20

Condors play tonight against Iowa.

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Professor Q

Admiral Ackbar:
Man, this ride been great so far. I love it when this team gives us something to cheer for. It feels weird, like, distantly familiar. I have flashbacks to a few good weeks a few years ago and a drunken haze from 13 years ago…

AND we don’t have a Conklin, if we make it that far.

Admiral Ackbar

Man, this ride been great so far. I love it when this team gives us something to cheer for. It feels weird, like, distantly familiar. I have flashbacks to a few good weeks a few years ago and a drunken haze from 13 years ago…

Professor Q

The only bad part about tonight:

Toronto, Calgary, Vancouver, Winnipeg, Arizona, and San Jose, all won (some in extra time).

Sweet goal by Horvat (only one to score) in the shootout, however.

Ribs

Fun game to watch. I wish I could have made it down to the Rec Room for it!

Skill guys killing, grinders grinding, d-men moving the puck, goalie on lock. Nice!

GMB3

As a former Vegreville bear baseball player… fuck veg… well earned DUB

Foege Foegele Torpe

Munny:
Colorado.

First two periods against Dally

San Jocee

Tonight.

These are exerting-their-will games.

This team believes in this coach… and this coach’s deployment has been pitch perfect.

Am as happy as a pig in shit right now.
Way more satisfying to win in Vegerville & lose in LA,
then the other way around
Spectacular performance on HNIC no less

v4ance

I have to cut Larsson a little slack. It is only his second game back fighting against players who are playing at full speed while he’s just rolling out of 2nd gear.

I thought he had a broken toe but I guess the injury was a fractured fibula. Otherwise, I would have said after taking that shot off the skate that he was more “flat footed”… (waits for boos)

LT’s at The Rec Room all night! Try the veal and don’t forget to tip your waiter!

oilersfan

Was Gagners last game the one against San Jose where he got a goal and an assisit?

Would like to see him get another chance

Never mind he played in the loss to Dallas

Munny

Colorado.

First two periods against Dally

San Jocee

Tonight.

These are exerting-their-will games.

This team believes in this coach… and this coach’s deployment has been pitch perfect.

OriginalPouzar

Smith doing a quick interview before he heads out to his second job in the adult film industry…..

https://twitter.com/EdmontonOilers/status/1198490300521431041

hunter1909

When’s Thanksgiving lol

hunter1909

These Oilers are starting to make everyone feel giddy. McDavid’s getting better with each game, Draisaitl and Kassian are perfect linemates and now the plugs are starting to chip in, all the while playing a tight Dave Tippett system.

They’re still a young team and will fuck up royally from time to time, but tonight shows how resilient they have become. Vegas were anything but pushovers.

Boil-in-the-Oil

razor: I agree with this. Too bad because Larsson’s a warrior. Larsson also has way higher perceived value from other teams. I could see Toronto being interested.

OK, but I would prefer if New Jersey was interested. Nudge-nudge, wink-wink.

Munny

With the way the bottom 6 has played over the past two weeks, this is a better team than we saw in October. And now we have Larsson.

SK Oiler Fan

Reja: Yeah. Tippett and playfair like quick transition passes.

The most impressive part is the passes hit guys with speed mid stride consistently. Just not accustomed to this from players with an Oil drop.on their chest

Munny

Reja: Yeah. Tippett and playfair like quick transition passes.

Which is Vegreville hockey too is it not?

SK Oiler Fan

OriginalPouzar: If its attributable to an assistant coach, it would be Playfair.

Ah yes, Corrected.

Reja

SK Oiler Fan: Yep, agreed, reevaluate in 2 weeks, but IMO this is trending towards one of those opportunities to cash out before the stock declines. As mentioned above the transformation of the way this D plays has been astounding

Yeah. Tippett and playfair like quick transition passes.

hunter1909

HF Boards ask:

“Would you take Lucic on your team for free?”

: p

Material Elvis

Pouzar: Nice call!

I was in the sports book, considering betting on the Knights, when a professional gambler approached me and advised me to take the Oilers. ‘No brainer at those odds’ was his comment. So I listened to his advice.

SK Oiler Fan

Reja: First game back after being out for a prolong period your running on adrenaline after that it takes weeks for conditioning and new system to kick in. You have to give the man a chance before drivinghim to the airport.

Yep, agreed, reevaluate in 2 weeks, but IMO this is trending towards one of those opportunities to cash out before the stock declines. As mentioned above the transformation of the way this D plays has been astounding

theDjdj

Gerta Rauss: Pacioretty was telling his story about when he got traded to Vegas his kids went to their bedrooms to check their NHL bed sheets (to look at the team logo) and Vegas wasn’t on the bed sheets (printed before Vegas was a team)

G asked if he got them new bed sheets (he had) and Patches said the team left him some bed sheets in his locker when he arrived

That is a cute question and answer. Nice one G Money if youre out there somewhere!

OriginalPouzar

SKOilerFan: That is where the concern lies. I’m not sure his skill.set fits as well as it once did. I know the traditional playoff guys will object, but I’m concerned about his mobility and puck skills.
The transformation of the Oilers D has been astounding. Is this mostly Gullickson?

If its attributable to an assistant coach, it would be Playfair.

hunter1909

After tonight, CP beginning to accept their 1st place Division Overlords.

And they haven’t even started to realise Lucic’s contribution. When they understand Lucic’s cap/roster implications it will be worse. Hopefully Oilers can sneak their first McDavid era cup win by then.

Munny

Gerta Rauss:
GMoney just had his question answered on After Hours

Nice..!

Fack I turned it off worried that Oakeward was going to ask Patches about his grandparents being orphans (or something)

Gerta Rauss

theDjdj: What was it?

Pacioretty was telling his story about when he got traded to Vegas his kids went to their bedrooms to check their NHL bed sheets (to look at the team logo) and Vegas wasn’t on the bed sheets (printed before Vegas was a team)

G asked if he got them new bed sheets (he had) and Patches said the team left him some bed sheets in his locker when he arrived

BornInAGretzkyJersey

SK Oiler Fan,

Larsson has hands, we’ve seen it on plays like Yammamot’s first goal, or in international games especially when paired with a puck mover like OEL. His offensive acumen was propped up during the 2011 draft year, not sure if the NHL ground that out of his game or if it was the Devils.

Gulutzan isn’t in charge of the D-corps; Playfair is.

theDjdj

Gerta Rauss:
GMoney just had his question answered on After Hours

Nice..!

What was it?

Gerta Rauss

GMoney just had his question answered on After Hours

Nice..!

Richard Roma

BornInAGretzkyJersey:
Anyone know the story behind Valentine Zykov being listed as under the substance abuse & behavioural health program on capfriendly?How does that affect the cap situation for Vegreville?

I am not certain, but it was PEDs not substance abuse.

Munny

We hoped for the best and it turned out like…

Tabernac!

Wait… wut?

#pinnochio

#Imarealteam

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Munny:
What’s Elliotte’s pimp name?

Groening Market.

oilersfan

tcho,

I wonder if they could try Haas on the second line with Nuge and Neal as a winger

He has the speed and the brains

It looks like Holland found a player there

Will be fun to watch him develop

Gerta Rauss

Material Elvis:And the +170 bet I placed on the Oilers paid for my entire night.

Strong

My Bet365 account took a beating tonight with Dallas at -140 in regulation

Reja

SK Oiler Fan: That is where the concern lies. I’m not sure his skill.set fits as well as it once did. I know the traditional playoff guys will object, but I’m concerned about his mobility and puck skills.
The transformation of the Oilers D has been astounding. Is this mostly Gullickson?

First game back after being out for a prolong period your running on adrenaline after that it takes weeks for conditioning and new system to kick in. You have to give the man a chance before driving him to the airport.

Pouzar

Material Elvis:
Just got out of T-Mobile.What a great time.I would encourage anyone to go watch a game there.You can’t beat that atmosphere.And the +170 bet I placed on the Oilers paid for my entire night.

Nice call!

Material Elvis

Just got out of T-Mobile. What a great time. I would encourage anyone to go watch a game there. You can’t beat that atmosphere. And the +170 bet I placed on the Oilers paid for my entire night.

Zelepukin

SK Oiler Fan: That is where the concern lies. I’m not sure his skill.set fits as well as it once did. I know the traditional playoff guys will object, but I’m concerned about his mobility and puck skills.
The transformation of the Oilers D has been astounding. Is this mostly Gullickson?

I hear ya but also think about Russell. His deployment has improved but he himself has also made some big adjustments in how he reads the play. He steps up differently and moves the puck in a much more effective manner. Last year he would rim it every single time. This game alone he made 3 very un-Russell like breakout passes.

You have to assume this is primarily coaching and some serious game-tape footage review.

Gerta Rauss

oilersfan: Any rumour on when Benning is back?

No rumours, but the protocol has been 7-10 days

My concern about Benning though is he’s got a history of concussions

fingers crossed

Munny

OriginalPouzar:
The best thing to happen to this team this year may have been Drai’s poor game against LA.

He took that personally – we heard in his post-game – he is back to that beast from the first 15-17 games.

This guy is going to win the Hart if McDavid doesn’t steal it from him.

Lol, called it.

Tesla's Hair

Harpers Hair: Canucks win in a shootout.

Flames win in a shootout.

Arizona wins in regulation.

Oilers win in regulation.

How is your weekend going?

oilersfan

Haas and Nygard sure add speed to the lineup

Any rumour on when Benning is back?

tcho

I’d sure like to see the coach try Haas with Nuge.

Gerta Rauss

JOFA:
Al,

Get your body paint ready. It’s going to be a fun spring.

gotta support the team…

jp

Thinking about the Condors and matriculating and Holland a little. (another tough come from behind loss for the Condors this evening).

So Red Wings youngsters, how long did they spend in the AHL? What kind of boxcars they put up before sticking? (included players over 200 NHL games or obviously going to get there)

Dylan Larkin – 2014 1st
Draft +1 NCAA
Straight to the NHL in draft +2

Anthony Mantha – 2013 1st
Draft +1 QMJHL
Draft +2 (late birthday) in the AHL (62GP/33PT)
Draft +3 AHL (60GP/45PT) plus cup of coffee in NHL
Draft +4 AHL (10GP/8G/10PT) then established in NHL

Tyler Bertuzzi – 2013 2nd
Draft +1/2 OHL
Draft +3 AHL (71GP/30PT)
Draft +4 AHL (48GP/37PT) plus cup of coffee
Draft +5 AHL (16GP/14PT) then established in NHL

Andreas Athanasiou – 2012 4th
Draft +1/2 OHL
Draft +3 AHL (55GP/32PT)
Draft +4 AHL (28GP/16PT) then established in NHL

Tomas Jurco – 2011 2nd
Draft +1 QMJHL
Draft +2 (late birthday) in the AHL (74GP/28PT)
Draft +3 AHL (32GP/32PT) then to the NHL for a couple of years

Riley Sheahan – 2010 1st
Draft +1/2 NCAA
Draft +3 AHL (72GP/36PT)
Draft +4 AHL (31GP/18PT) then established in NHL

Calle Jarnkrok -2010 2nd
Draft +1/2/3 SHL
Draft +4 AHL (63GP/45PT) traded to Nashville and to the NHL to stay by the end of the year

Petr Mrazek – 2010 5th
Draft +1/2 OHL
Draft +3 AHL (42GP) cup of coffee in NHL, 3 games in ECHL
Draft +4 AHL (32GP) cup of coffee in NHL (9GP)
Draft +5 AHL (13GP) then established in NHL

Tomas Tatar – 2009 2nd
Draft +1 AHL (58GP/32PT)
Draft +2 AHL (70GP/57PT) cup of coffee
Draft +3 AHL (76GP/58PT)
Draft +4 AHL (61GP/49PT) then established in NHL

Nick Jensen – 2009 5th
Draft +1 USHL
Draft +2/3/4 NCAA
Draft +5 AHL (49GP/9PT) plus 3 in ECHL
Draft +6 AHL (75GP/27PT)
Draft +7 AHL (75GP/19PT)
Draft +8 AHL (27GP/6PT) then established in NHL

Gustav Nyquist 2008 4th
Draft +1/2/3 NCAA
Draft +4 AHL (56GP/58PT) cup of coffee (18GP)
Draft +5 AHL (58GP/60PT) cup of coffee (22GP)
Draft +6 AHL (15GP/21PT) then established in NHL

That’s a heck of a lot of matriculating. And basically no one aside from Nyquist scored a PPG in the AHL while a number of them went on to be point producers in the NHL.

Benson, Yamamoto, Marody, Bouchard may not see the NHL for a while yet (if they do make it). And at tis point their offense stacks up remarkably well relative to a considerable group of quality Red Wings.

SK Oiler Fan

Zelepukin: I think he just needs time to adjust, which hopefully he can.The way our D play now is completely different than previous years.

That is where the concern lies. I’m not sure his skill.set fits as well as it once did. I know the traditional playoff guys will object, but I’m concerned about his mobility and puck skills.
The transformation of the Oilers D has been astounding. Is this mostly Gullickson?

Pouzar

Munny: That seems low

For him yes indeed.

Pouzar

Huge in division regulation win.

JOFA

Al,

Get your body paint ready. It’s going to be a fun spring.

Gerta Rauss

Zelepukin: Ya that was such a simple but sick play that ends up on no stats sheet.

I watched it again, and I could have phrased it a little better- behind the net under pressure, he leads Kassian with a touch pass in a clear area and Kass skates calmly in the area and the pass hits him on the tape