2019-20 Game 37: Oilers at Blues

The St. Louis Blues were a brand new team when I came in, and I collected stories about their early stars. Frank St. Marseille sent resumes to teams, Glenn Hall told the management he was going to retire and paint his barn and St. Louis was invaded by Plagers in the early days of NHL expansion in Missouri.

The Oilers entered the NHL 12 years later, and would win its first Stanley 17 years after the Blues played a game in St. Louis. Edmonton would win another, and then another, and then another and then another. Five Stanley Cups in 11 years of existence.

The mind boggled, especially for Blues fans. What the hell, man? In the early summer of 2019, over 50 years after Hall and the Plagers, the Blues won Stanley. What a story.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, less than two coffees a month offer here. 

  • New Lowetide: The key missing element to the Oilers’ brilliant top line
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘We called him ‘The Crane”: Teammates and coaches reveal their best Connor McDavid stories
  • Jonathan Willis: Should the Oilers have outbid the Coyotes for Taylor Hall?
  • Lowetide: Connor McDavid’s frustration and the impact it could have on the Edmonton Oilers
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Oilers need to figure out five-on-five woes quickly, starting with Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl
  • Lowetide: Who should be the next man up from the Bakersfield Condors?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Q&A: 10 subscriber questions for Oilers rookie defenceman Ethan Bear
  • Lowetide: Five loud noises Ken Holland could make to help the Oilers immediately
  • Lowetide: Complete Oilers top 20 prospects list, winter 2019
  • Jonathan Willis: Oilers recall Caleb Jones, one of their most plausible trade chips
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘These games are not coming back’: Oilers lament frustrating week at home
  • Jonathan Willis: Dave Tippett rewarded for his bets on the resilience of Mikko Koskinen, Oilers
  • Lowetide: How many value contracts do the Oilers have and are any more on the way?
  • Jonathan Willis: How will Hart voters choose between Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: How the Oilers turned team defence from a weakness into a strength
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ No. 5 prospect, Winter 2019 — Raphael Lavoie
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ No. 4 prospect winter 2019: Tyler Benson
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 3 prospect winter 2019: Ethan Bear
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ No. 2 prospect winter 2019: Philip Broberg
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ No. 1 prospect winter 2019: Evan Bouchard

OILERS AFTER 37 GAMES

  • Oilers in 2015: 15-19-3, 33 points; goal differential -18
  • Oilers in 2016: 19-12-6, 44 points; goal differential +6
  • Oilers in 2017: 17-18-2, 36 points; goal differential -6
  • Oilers in 2018: 18-16-3, 39 points; goal differential -3
  • Oilers in 2019: 19-13-4, 42 points; goal differential -1

This year’s model and the playoff team were the first to 40 points, and the 2019 McDavids can be the first to 20 wins with a victory tonight. It’s going to be a tall order.

OILERS IN DECEMBER

  • Oilers in December 2015: 6-3-0, 12 points; goal differential -3
  • Oilers in December 2016: 4-2-3, 11 points; goal differential 0
  • Oilers in December 2017: 6-3-0, 12 points; goal differential +8
  • Oilers in December 2018: 6-2-1, 13 points; goal differential +8
  • Oilers in December 2019: 3-4-1, 7 points; goal differential -7

A win tonight and the Oilers 2019 will be within spitting distance of the 2016 team. The chances of this year’s December numbers being the poorest in the group is large.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN DECEMBER

  • On the road to: VAN (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: OTT, LAK, BUF, CAR (Expected 2-1-1) (Actual 1-2-1)
  • On the road to: MIN (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • At home to: TOR (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: DAL, STL (Expected 0-2-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: PIT, MTL (Expected 1-1-0)
  • On the road to: VAN (Expected 0-0-1)
  • At home to: CAL, NYR (Expected 1-1-0)
  • Overall expected result: 6-6-2, 14 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 3-4-1, 7 points in 8 games

As much as this year’s team has struggled this month, a win tonight gets them on track with my projected point per game pace. The schedule gets a little easier after tonight. That isn’t always a blessing for the Oilers.

OILERS 2019-20

OILERS 50-MAN LIST (UPDATED)

1 G Mikko Koskinen. A 12-5-2 won-loss and a save percentage of .917 has to make Oilers fans and management feel a little better about the $4.5 million times three contract that expires spring 2022. He’s the starter.

2 G Mike Smith. He had a wild start, sending pucks all over the place in the early part of the season, but settled in for a time and played well. He is in a long streak of poor performances, as reflected by his .896 save percentage. Bonuses kick in soon, I wonder if the Oilers consider running Koskinen two of three starts for the next couple of months, maybe until the deadline.

3 Shane Starrett. His injuries have made things difficult for the Bakersfield Condors. Starrett’s five starts have resulted in three wins and a Bettman point, so if he’s healthy the AHL team should roll. He is RFA. I think the Oilers like him but he needs to get some momentum if there’s an NHL look in his future this season.

4 Stuart Skinner. His AHL numbers (17, 3.60, .879) tell us Skinner isn’t ready for the Condors starting job, but that’s not shocking or unusual. He did delivered a string of solid performances.

5 Dylan Wells. He is the No. 3 goalie in Bakersfield (6, 3.36 .890) but it is in no way clear to me that Wells should be slotted behind Skinner. I think the Oilers disagree.

Olivier Rodrigue. He’s a slide rule so doesn’t count, but is signed and will turn pro in the fall. I wonder if we see one of the current Condors cut loose.

6 LHD Oscar Klefbom. Edmonton’s leader in TOI (25:45) in all disciplines, he has delivered offensively (36, 3-19-22) but had some issues in possession (46.34 Corsi five on five) and goal differential (23-33, -10) at five on five.

7 LHD Darnell Nurse. Also playing a ton (22:29) and posting crooked numbers (36, 2-15-17). Nurse’s possession numbers (Corsi five on five 50.04; goal differential 34-38) are solid. He is looking for a new contract and talks have begun. It will be a major story until signed and likely has enormous impact on Edmonton’s room to wheel during the summer.

8 LHD Kris Russell. Veteran continues to deliver exactly what any reasonable human could expect from him (43.11 Corsi, 11-10 goals) all the while driving math crazy. He is signed for another year at $4 million, doubt he’s in Edmonton this time next year.

9 LHD Caleb Jones. Young defender is getting an extended NHL look and appears to be winning a big league job. Listed here but playing on his offside, he is 5-10 in goal differential five on five and has a Corsi of 45.97. Has been in trade rumours, partly because of waiver worry next October.

10 LHD Brandon Manning. He is making $2.25 million in the final season of his deal, has played fewer than 100 minutes this season. Hasn’t bitched, hasn’t had much of a chance but has kept quiet.

11 LHD William Lagesson. Quality prospect currently the last man standing in the AHL among the Condors blue trio of one year ago. Great numbers and scouting reports, he just needs a call.

12 LHD Keegan Lowe. He is RFA after the season and has struggled with the load this season. That’s a tough spot for the minor league veteran who played very well one year ago. He is probably playing his final months in the organization.

13 LHD Dmitri Samorukov. Big, physical defenseman who can skate very well is (imo) just shy of being a blue chip prospect in the fashion of Evan Bouchard and Philip Broberg. He’s on track to have a solid NHL career, only question is offense.

LHD Philip Broberg. He is another slide rule contract and having success in the SHL this season. He is slightly ahead of Oscar Klefbom at the same age, Oilers fans are antsy but he is the best skating defenseman on this team since Nurse and maybe before then. He can fly.

14 RHD Ethan Bear. Rookie leads RH blue with 20:56 TOI per night and has delivered solid boxcars (36, 4-6-10). He’s bona fide, popped after his second AHL season and hasn’t looked back. Corsi five on five is a team best 50.50 and his goal differential in the discipline is 32-40.

15 RHD Adam Larsson. Averaging 18:47 a night, he was injured opening night and has played in just 14 games (0-1-1). Corsi is 45.31, he is 4-11 goal differential five on five. Recent performances have been much improved, Oilers need him badly.

16 Matt Benning. Concussed and then took a shot from a puck and no one will say anything about his ear. Evander Kane, man. 24, 0-5-5, averaging 13:42 a night, Corsi 47.03 and 14-7 goal differential. I’m worried about him.

17 Joel Persson. He has been in the NHL and AHL a couple of times, the speed and reaction has him flummoxed a little. 13, 0-2-2 averaging 15:19, Corsi 47.61 and a 7-8 goal differential at five on five. I think we’ll see him again soon.

18 Evan Bouchard. He is producing (25, 3-11-14) in Bakersfield but also has a -11 plus minus. He’s quality, and is learning but there’s no hurry. I think he might spend the year in California. If he turns a corner in the new year, perhaps he gets a cup of coffee in late March.

19 Logan Day. He’s 19, 2-4-6 so far this season, with injuries and Bouchard/Persson impacting his power-play minutes. He is RFA at the end of the season and is vulnerable.

20 Ryan Mantha. He was on season opening LTIR and no one asks about it at this point. Eye injury appears to have ended his hockey career, but we hold out hope for a return.

21 LHC Connor McDavid. If he didn’t exist they would have had to invent him. His numbers this season (36, 20-39-59) project to 134 points and no one dare bet against him. McDavid keeps changing his outer marker. Incredible.

22 LHC Ryan Nugent-Hopkins. Veteran’s offense is off (30, 6-12-18) and he is especially struggling at five on five (1.08) but his on-ice outscoring (12-14) has been impressive considering his linemates. Edmonton needs a big second half.

23 LHC Riley Sheahan. He’s 31, 1-1-2 and it’s worse than it looks. His five on five on-ice goal differential is 5-16. Sheahan’s PK totals (4.14 GA/60) in 72 minutes ranks No. 4 among regular Oilers penalty killers. He’s playing too much.

24 RHC Gaetan Haas. He has delivered 28, 3-4-7 so far this season, and I’ll tell you he looked like he was halfway to the airport in some of those early games. A find, just don’t know if he’s a real find. He’s 1.2 per 60 at five on five.

25 RHC Kyle Brodziak. On LTIR. He won’t return.

26 LHC Colby Cave. He has been on the Bakersfield shuttle and helped out when in Edmonton. Cave can get into good situations offensively but can’t cash. A common problem among mortals.

27 RHC Cooper Marody. Surprised he hasn’t played in the NHL yet, Marody has had injury issues in the AHL. Only recently has he been able to impact the Condors as he did a year ago. 21, 4-9-13.

28 LHC Ryan McLeod. His speed is a big asset in the AHL and his offense (25, 3-7-10) is more than I anticipated in his first half rookie pro. He’s penalty killing, too. Doubt he’ll see the NHL this season but you never know.

29 LHC Brad Malone. Veteran is a top center in the AHL but appears to be behind Cave on the recall depth chart. UFA next summer.

30 RHC Cam Hebig. He’s been in the ECHL (15, 5-8-13) more than AHL (9, 1-1-2), and that isn’t a good sign. Oilers have other options, but he hasn’t been able to build on his 11-goal season of one year ago.

31 LW Leon Draisaitl. Big man is following up his 50-goal season (36, 21-36-57) with a goal-scoring pace that projects to 48 goals. He is a major star and key to any success Edmonton will enjoy this year.

32 LW James Neal. A fast start has been followed by a long stretch of no impact. Neal seems healthier and faster of late, and as we approach mid-season, his boxcars (36, 15-7-22) are more than expected.

33 LW Jujhar Khaira. He’s 34, 6-0-6 so far, with wide ranging performances that range from player of the game to waivers at midnight. I remain a believer but he’s going to get pressure from the minors and men like Tyler Benson soon. Khaira’s solid PK work (he ranks No. 2 in GA/60 in the discipline) helps him keep the roster spot.

34 LW Markus Granlund. He had a hot stretch for a time and is now 29, 3-1-4. Now that I see the numbers, hot stretch isn’t the right phrase. On the PK, he is No. 6 among regulars in GA/60 (7.8). He’s a free agent in the summer, Ken Holland talked about his 12 goals a year ago but Granlund has three coming up to halftime.

35 LW Joakim Nygard. His boxcars (19, 2-3-5) aren’t bad, that’s 20 points over a full season. His speed is impressive and should get him more starts and scoring chances, but the first 36 games are done and he’s played in only half of them.

36 LW Tomas Jurco. I liked him in the NHL (12, 0-2-2) but he didn’t touch the puck enough to stay in the lineup. In the AHL (8, 4-3-7) he’s a substantial player and my guess is that he remains a recall option.

37 LW Tyler Benson. Benson is once again leading Condors forwards in points (25, 7-12-19) but it’s clear that he misses having a healthy Marody. Benson is in the window for recall now.

38 LW Joe Gambardella. He has been injured for parts of this season and isn’t scoring at last year’s levels (29 goals in 50 games). He is 6-5-11 in 19 games this season.

39 LW Nolan Vesey. He is RFA at the end of this season and along with Mantha very likely to be released after the 2019-20 campaign. Vesey has played in three AHL and four ECHL games.

40 RW Zack Kassian. Career season for the fleet winger, he’s playing the best hockey of his career. His numbers (12-11-23 in 33 games) are exceptional compared to his own career totals. Kassian and Edmonton are talking contract, there is danger here.

41 RW Alex Chiasson. Big winger who signed free-agent contract has been shy offensively (31, 4-8-12) but is coming on of late. The season he is having now is in line with his overall career averages. Last season was the outlier.

42 RW Sam Gagner. He is quietly having a solid year. Gagner’s boxcars (18, 1-7-8) imply a 30+ point season, but he is playing half the games. A five on five per 60 point total of 1.92 is the fourth best on the team and the best among forwards who don’t play regularly with CMD.

43 RW Josh Archibald. Speedy winger who can’t score but does PK well (his 2.9 GA/60 on the PK leads the team’s regulars). He had 12 goals one year ago, just one goal this year. Can we assume a market correction is on the way?

44 RW Patrick Russell. Russell isn’t getting a lot of attention but his ability to be useful goes beyond the boxcars (27, 0-4-4). He PK’s but his GA/60 (12.48) is the poorest among regulars.

45 RW Kailer Yamamoto. I am in worry mode since his wrist injury. Yamamoto is the most impressive forward in the AHL, but he isn’t cashing enough. That could be a lack of skill centers to feed him, a poor power play, or both. One of the key prospects to watch for Oilers fans between now and April. Will he pop?

46 RW Josh Currie. He can play center or wing in the AHL and was flat out impressive during a recall one year ago. Patrick Russell ate everyone’s lunch but Currie leads all Condors in goals (11) and perhaps we see him in Edmonton during the second half of the season.

47 RW Kirill Maksimov. I have been impressed with his season so far. Although the boxcars are slow in arriving (22, 1-5-6) he has been able to stay in the AHL and has shown utility (PK, some PP). He had a four-game stretch in November where he went 1-3-4, but the rest of the first half has been a jumble. Watch for a spike in the second half.

48 RW Ostap Safin. He is scoring well in the ECHL (26, 10-12-22) but more important he is healthy and that’s a big damned deal. I expect we’ll see him in Bakersfield in the new year.

Rookie scoring in Bakersfield

It’s important to keep track of rookie scoring, because it gives us a line in the sand and a chance to compare the coming months to the beginning. Here are last year’s rookies and their numbers at this time a year ago:

  1. Cooper Marody 13, 5-11-16 1.23
  2. Cam Hebig 23, 9-7-16 .696
  3. Tyler Benson 23, 3-12-15 .652
  4. Kailer Yamamoto 7, 1-3-4 .571
  5. Logan Day 21, 3-8-11 .523
  6. Tyler Vesel 20, 1-6-7 .350

Benson’s numbers were helped by Marody’s dominance, as were Hebig’s. This year’s rookies are led by a defenceman:

  1. Evan Bouchard 25, 3-11-14 .560
  2. Ryan McLeod 25, 3-7-10 .400
  3. Kirill Maksimov 22, 1-5-6 .273
  4. Dmitri Samorukov 23, 1-4-5 .217

The thing to remember here is that Bouchard is the only player who is in a feature offensive role. He is 2-5-7 on the power play, none of the other men listed has more than one point with the man advantage. I’d say “sure NHLers” number just one, but I like the chances of the other three based on early season performance. In fact, despite playing lesser roles as AHL rookies, I think this year’s crop has more promise. These kids have enough skill and range to push for NHL employment eventually.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A fun morning today, starts at 10, TSN 1260. Bruce McCurdy from the Cult of Hockey joins us at 10:20, we’ll review the Dallas game and preview St. Louis. Joe Osborne from OddsShark will drop in at 11 to talk about Super Bowl picks and nervous Patriots fans, plus how much Taylor Hall moves the needle for the Arizona Coyotes. 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. See you on the radio!

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  1. Richard Roma says:

    Richard Roma,

    We’ll be out of a playoff position before the new year, then we can get on with the draft watch.

  2. jp says:

    Richard Roma: Fun’s over.

    3rd in pacific.

    1sr wildcard. Dallas. Tied in points. 2 games in hand.

    2nd wildcard. Calgary. 2 points behind with a game in hand.

    Next. Nashville. 5 points back, but 4 games in hand.

    The fun is just starting for some posters.

  3. drglen says:

    Benson?

  4. Bag of Pucks says:

    Last week i accepted that Nurse will never be a positionally sound Dman.

    Tonight i realized you can’t handcuff this roster giving him a luxe contract. If he wants to get paid like Suter and defend like Zaitsev, then it’s time to find a willing trading partner this offseason.

    I love Nurse’s intangibles but it appears he’s always going to be a player that gives away chances with undisciplined positional play and poor situational awareness.

    Honestly, this guy could be Larry Robinson with his toolset.

  5. Harpers Hair says:

    drglen:
    Benson?

    Benson is 60th in AHL scoring.

    Do you really think he would help?

  6. godot10 says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    Last week i accepted that Nurse will never be a positionally sound Dman.

    Tonight i realized you can’t handcuff this roster giving him a luxe contract. If he wants to get paid like Suter and defend like Zaitsev, then it’s time to find a willing trading partner this offseason.

    I love Nurse’s intangibles but it appears he’s always going to be a player that gives away chances with undisciplined positional play and poor situational awareness.

    Honestly, this guy could be Larry Robinson with his toolset.

    #3D get paid $6 million something these days. Nurse is a keeper. Like Petry, the Oilers will miss him the first day he is gone. Look at the good and the bad on balance. Continually dumping D entering their prime is foolhardy.

  7. Bag of Pucks says:

    godot10: #3D get paid $6 million something these days.Nurse is a keeper. Like Petry, the Oilers will miss him the first day he is gone.Look at the good and the bad on balance.Continually dumping D entering their prime is foolhardy.

    Then trade him to some org wholly enamoured of his alleged upside for an actual 3D that can consistently defend.

    Or coach this crap out of him once and for all.

    They were in this game tonight until he decided to leave his coverage assisgnment and wander over for what? Honestly, how can a pro hockey player justify that decision? Our Ws looked lonely!!!!

  8. stephenw24 says:

    I hope they keep Mcdavid and Draisaitl together and get them playing well again, a lot of struggles the last 4 to 6 weeks but the best path to the playoffs is riding that big line, a hot PP and goaltending for win streaks, try to stay .500 when things aren’t clicking. There are plenty of one line teams in the modern nhl , we must admit that’s what we are. I don’t want criticize as they are 2 of the best scorers in the league but they always are looking for the pass across and teams are playing them for it. If there is a screen I’d really love to see either of them shoot more when in the scoring positions.

  9. jp says:

    godot10: #3D get paid $6 million something these days.Nurse is a keeper. Like Petry, the Oilers will miss him the first day he is gone.Look at the good and the bad on balance.Continually dumping D entering their prime is foolhardy.

    +1

  10. godot10 says:

    Bag of Pucks: Then trade him to some org wholly enamoured of his alleged upside for an actual 3D that can consistently defend.

    Or coach this crap out of him once and for all.

    They were in this game tonight until he decided to leave his coverage assisgnment and wander over for what? Honestly, how can a pro hockey player justify that decision? Our Ws looked lonely!!!!

    There was a whole lot of poor communication between the bench and the players on the ice and situational awareness on that play, Nurse was one of many to blame.

    The forwards on the Oilers don’t seem to have good awareness of when the D are changing behind them.

  11. jp says:

    Bag of Pucks:

    They were in this game tonight until he decided to leave his coverage assisgnment and wander over for what? Honestly, how can a pro hockey player justify that decision? Ethan looked lonely!!!

    Ethan Bear wasn’t lonely because he had just gotten to the bench. Caleb Jones had just stepped on and sure did look lonely chasing Schenn. Nurse was “wandering” over for a change when Neal/Gagner gave the puck up. It’s all very clear (IMO) from this clip: https://www.nhl.com/video/schenns-top-shelf-snipe/t-311584684/c-4861932

  12. Bag of Pucks says:

    jp: Ethan Bear wasn’t lonely because he had just gotten to the bench. Caleb Jones had just stepped on and sure did look lonely chasing Schenn. Nurse was “wandering” over for a change when Neal/Gagner gave the puck up. It’s all very clear (IMO) from this clip: https://www.nhl.com/video/schenns-top-shelf-snipe/t-311584684/c-4861932

    godot10: There was a whole lot of poor communication between the bench and the players on the ice and situational awareness on that play,Nurse was one of many to blame.

    The forwards on the Oilers don’t seem to have good awareness of when the D are changing behind them.

    His responsibility is clear on that play. You defend the middle of the ice until the O firmy establish possession or they get it deep.

    What you don’t do is wander over to see how it’s going, so the opposition has a clear headman to a clear breakaway off a simple chip.

    That’s the situational awareness. Nurse has to know Bear’s exit has left them vulnerable and his vacating makes it double jeopardy. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.

  13. JimmyV1965 says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    Credit to Haas and Nygard. They showed well against a big gritty team that loves to take it to the wall.

    Samwise deserves more games too. Still slow but he anticipates the play well and the puck isn’t dying on his stick.

    Miko was MK Ultra tonight. Great game. Deserved a much better fate.

    Like everyone else on the team, he was waving at pucks all night.

  14. JimmyV1965 says:

    godot10: There was a whole lot of poor communication between the bench and the players on the ice and situational awareness on that play,Nurse was one of many to blame.

    The forwards on the Oilers don’t seem to have good awareness of when the D are changing behind them.

    Ya. I don’t get the hate for Nurse in this game. Everyone played like crap. Zero forward support for the defence. Haas had a good game IMO. We’ve lost a lot of games lately, but this was the worst of the worst. I thought RNH was absolutely horrible. One of the worst games I’ve seen McDavid play as well. Keep the Cs separated. Maybe Holland will get the message that this team needs wingers.

  15. JimmyV1965 says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    His responsibility is clear on that play. You defend the middle of the ice until the O firmy establish possession or they get it deep.

    What you don’t do is wander over to see how it’s going, so the opposition has a clear headman to a clear breakaway off a simple chip.

    That’s the situational awareness. Nurse has to know Bear’s exit has left them vulnerable and his vacating makes it double jeopardy. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.

    Are we seriously discussing one play. This is a wasted effort. The whole team sucked and virtually every player on the team made multiple screw ups. We’re lucky they only connected for two goals.

  16. Bag of Pucks says:

    JimmyV1965: Are we seriously discussing one play. This is a wasted effort. The whole team sucked and virtually every player on the team made multiple screw ups. We’re lucky they only connected for two goals.

    Any coach will tell you the vast majority of games turn on a few key plays. In his post game presser tonight, Tippett said as much indicating the 1st goal turned it and they were chasing the game until the end as a result.

    Until next time….

  17. godot10 says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    His responsibility is clear on that play. You defend the middle of the ice until the O firmy establish possession or they get it deep.

    What you don’t do is wander over to see how it’s going, so the opposition has a clear headman to a clear breakaway off a simple chip.

    That’s the situational awareness. Nurse has to know Bear’s exit has left them vulnerable and his vacating makes it double jeopardy. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.

    Nurse thought the puck was going deep, and he was going over there to change.

    There was a lot of poor communication and situational awareness on that play by the players and the coaches.

  18. v4ance says:

    Harpers Hair:
    Gene Principe should be taken out behind the barn.

    Classy comment. Gene’s first game back on the broadcast after his mom died.

  19. flea says:

    I actually thought the Oilers effort was admirable in the game. They got outclassed a bit in this game, no doubt, but they battled hard in the D zone. I thought their effort was consistent throughout, they didn’t get rattled.

    Fans in Edmonton appreciate that kind of effort. Keep that up and the barn will be full again soon.

  20. SwedishPoster says:

    What the hell is Koskinen doing letting goals in? He has one job, to not let goals in, if he does his job the team wins but no he can’t even cobble together 44 saves to help out his team.

  21. Munny says:

    Bag of Pucks: Honestly, this guy could be Larry Robinson with his toolset.

    But, he’s not, He’s Nurse. And that’s okay. You pay players like this. You don’t trade them because they’re not Robinson but could be. And if he was Robinson, he’ll be looking for a LOT more than millions in the sixes.

  22. BONE207 says:

    SwedishPoster:
    What the hell is Koskinen doing letting goals in? He has one job, to not let goals in, if he does his job the team wins but no he can’t even cobble together 44 saves to help out his team.

    I was thinking about this early in the season. We could score 82 goals, not let any in & win 1-0 every game. Or…we go to the Shootout & officially we score 0, give up 0 & have 164 points. We are just 2 players from that now.

  23. JimmyV1965 says:

    flea:
    I actually thought the Oilers effort was admirable in the game. They got outclassed a bit in this game, no doubt, but they battled hard in the D zone. I thought their effort was consistent throughout, they didn’t get rattled.

    Fans in Edmonton appreciate that kind of effort. Keep that up and the barn will be full again soon.

    I’m speechless. That may have been their worst game of the year.

  24. jp says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    His responsibility is clear on that play. You defend the middle of the ice until the O firmy establish possession or they get it deep.

    What you don’t do is wander over to see how it’s going, so the opposition has a clear headman to a clear breakaway off a simple chip.

    That’s the situational awareness. Nurse has to know Bear’s exit has left them vulnerable and his vacating makes it double jeopardy. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.

    I was responding to your statement: “he decided to leave his coverage assisgnment and wander over for what?”

    It’s clear he was going for a line change. He wasn’t wandering aimlessly.

    In terms of situational awareness, yeah there were issues on that play. The Oilers DID have firmly established possession in the O-zone. It didn’t get deep.

    IMO the situational awareness issues weren’t on Nurse during that play. You apparently don’t agree so I guess there’s not much to say.

  25. Bag of Pucks says:

    SwedishPoster:
    What the hell is Koskinen doing letting goals in? He has one job, to not let goals in, if he does his job the team wins but no he can’t even cobble together 44 saves to help out his team.

    Nurse’s blown assignment was a preventable error. Foster a culture that tolerates those and you are fostering mediocrity.

    There was a lot of men fighting hard for a result last night and they were let down by an individual who consistently makes errors related to poor positional play. I watched Nurse’s reaction closely when he went to the bench and he knew he fucked up egregiously and left Jones out to dry. How could he not?

    When the opposition is zooming through the territory you just vacated, it’s fairly obvious that wandering inside the blue line to follow an opposition F followed by a slow turn into the neutral zone is a pretty poor execution of a safe line change.

    I have seen players chewed out in bantam for what Nurse did. Bantam!

  26. frjohnk says:

    SwedishPoster:
    What the hell is Koskinen doing letting goals in? He has one job, to not let goals in, if he does his job the team wins but no he can’t even cobble together 44 saves to help out his team.

    Ha, ha.

    When Im playing rec hockey, I tell the goalie if he stops the first shot and the eventual 3 rebound shots right after, I will clear the puck before the team gets a 5th shot. Its up to the goalie if he wants me to clear the puck out of the crease or if he wants to clear the puck out of the back of the net.

  27. meanashell11 says:

    JimmyV1965: I’m speechless. That may have been their worst game of the year.

    Not really. I think goaltending, defense and PK were outstanding. Sure there may have been a couple of small brain farts but at the end of the day it was the penalties that killed us and some of them were remarkably soft. But the delay of game has to stop. We spent basically the second period short a man. That tires players and gets them out of sync. We almost tied this with 8 seconds to go, against the Cup champions and the best team in the conference. We put 35 shots on goal even though we were short handed the entire second period.

    I think some people need to take a breath.

  28. who says:

    meanashell11: Not really. I think goaltending, defense and PK were outstanding. Sure there may have been a couple of small brain farts but at the end of the day it was the penalties that killed us and some of them were remarkably soft. But the delay of game has to stop. We spent basically the second period short a man. That tires players and gets them out of sync. We almost tied this with 8 seconds to go, against the Cup champions and the best team in the conference. We put 35 shots on goal even though we were short handed the entire second period.

    I think some people need to take a breath.

    I thought we were dominated for large stretches of both games.
    If you were using the last 2 games as a measuring stick it’s pretty clear that the Oilers are a playoff bubble team, at best. Kinda what most people felt at the beginning of the year.
    Dallas and St Louis are much deeper teams. They’re just better than us right now.
    Yeah, we have McDavid and Drai, but we can’t roll 4 lines that match up against the good teams.
    On the bright side, it looks like we have 1 good goalie, and a promising young defense, to go along with our superstars. But man, we need help up front.

  29. OriginalPouzar says:

    stephenw:
    I hope they keep Mcdavid and Draisaitl together and get them playing well again, a lot of struggles the last 4 to 6 weeks but the best path to the playoffs is riding that big line, a hot PP and goaltending for win streaks, try to stay .500 when things aren’t clicking.There are plenty of one line teams in the modern nhl , we must admit that’swhat we are.I don’t want criticize as they are 2 of the best scorers in the league but they always are looking for the pass across and teams are playing them for it.If there is a screen I’d really love to see either of them shoot more when in the scoring positions.

    McDavid/Drai together have a 38% goal differential since November 1.

    They almost can’t be played together as it makes the team worse.

  30. JimmyV1965 says:

    meanashell11: Not really. I think goaltending, defense and PK were outstanding. Sure there may have been a couple of small brain farts but at the end of the day it was the penalties that killed us and some of them were remarkably soft. But the delay of game has to stop. We spent basically the second period short a man. That tires players and gets them out of sync. We almost tied this with 8 seconds to go, against the Cup champions and the best team in the conference. We put 35 shots on goal even though we were short handed the entire second period.

    I think some people need to take a breath.

    I would say I’m usually more upbeat about a loss than most posters here. During the three-game losing streak I thought they generally played well. But last night’s game was awful. The shots do not reflect the game flow at all. Koskinen bailed us out big time. And I don’t think penalties were the issue. I agree the defence was fine. Don’t get the Nurse hate at all. But the forwards were awful, just awful. No support for the dmen. They were continually behind the play getting back to the dzone even though they couldn’t get the puck deep in the ozone.

  31. meanashell11 says:

    JimmyV1965: I would say I’m usually more upbeat about a loss than most posters here. During the three-game losing streak I thought they generally played well. But last night’s game was awful. The shots do not reflect the game flow at all. Koskinen bailed us out big time. And I don’t think penalties were the issue. I agree the defence was fine. Don’t get the Nurse hate at all. But the forwards were awful, just awful. No support for the dmen. They were continually behind the play getting back to the dzone even though they couldn’t get the puck deep in the ozone.

    Not only were the forwards awful, their inability to get pucks in deep once they cross into the ozone was the killer.

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