2019-20 Game 46: Oilers at Canadiens

The Montreal Canadiens appeared in Edmonton for the first time to face the Oilers on December 14, 1979. In a season that featured history on a daily basis (everything was new!), seeing the Habs in Alberta had the impact of a Papal visit. Dave Lumley scored in the first, Kari Makkonen scored his second goal of the season (and the final NHL goal of his career), Gretzky, Lumley again, Messier late with his third of the year. Montreal didn’t get started until the third period, then received qoals from Pierre Larouche (22nd of the year), Yvon Lambert, Pierre Mondou. Lafleur had an assist, Bunny Larocque loses to Eddie Mio.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, less than two coffees a month offer here. 

  • New Lowetide: Ken Holland’s targets for his first trade deadline with the Oilers.
  • New Minnia Feng: Zamboni Ursula: What if Oilers fans could change something in the team’s past?
  • Lowetide: Ken Holland’s trade deadline options for the Oilers
  • Jonathan Willis: ‘That’s the nicest goal I’ve ever seen’: Connor McDavid’s teammates amazed by his latest effort
  • Jonathan Willis: Oilers notebook: James Neal’s resurgence, Matt Benning’s injury and the Tyler Benson recall temptation
  • Lowetide: Oilers farmhands are pushing hard for NHL jobs
  • Jonathan Willis: Zack Kassian’s breakout performance presents Oilers GM Ken Holland with a familiar dilemma
  • Lowetide: Ken Holland, the Oilers amateur procurement department and the 2020 draft
  • Jonathan Willis: It would be a mistake to write off the Oilers after their December slump
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: From Leon Draisaitl to the penalty kill, the things the Oilers need to improve to get back to the playoffs
  • Lowetide: A shift-by-shift analysis of Kailer Yamamoto’s 2019-20 debut in the Oilers’ New Year’s Eve game.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: James Neal puts on New Year’s Eve show to remember in Oilers’ thriller
  • Lowetide: Midseason review of ‘reasonable expectations’ shows Oilers are on track with preseason targets
  • Jonathan Willis and Daniel Nugent-Bowman: How are our Oilers predictions holding up at the midseason mark? We decided to find out
  • Jonathan Willis: Oilers midseason report card shows an unbalanced team with a lot of replaceable parts
  • Lowetide: Complete Oilers top 20 prospects list, winter 2019

OILERS AFTER 46 GAMES

  • Oilers in 2015-16: 18-23-5, 41 points; goal differential -24
  • Oilers in 2016-17: 24-15-7, 55 points; goal differential +6
  • Oilers in 2017-18: 19-23-3, 41 points; goal differential -26
  • Oilers in 2018-19: 22-21-3, 47 points; goal differential -7
  • Oilers in 2019-20: 23-17-5, 51 points; goal differential -3

The Oilers are in a good spot right now, January has been most kind early days. Goal differential is starting to straighten up and fly right. Just for a reminder, the 10-game segments so far are: 7-2-1; 5-4-1; 5-4-1; 3-6-1 and now 3-1-1.

OILERS IN JANUARY

  • Oilers in January 2016: 2-2-0, four points; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in January 2017: 2-2-0, four points; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in January 2018: 1-3-0, two points; goal differential -11
  • Oilers in January 2019: 2-2-0, four points; goal differential -4
  • Oilers in January 2020: 2-0-1, five points; goal differential +3

January 2020 stands out in the McDavid crowd, and with Montreal 2-7-1 in its last 10 perhaps Edmonton arrives in Quebec at a good time. The goal differential so far this month is encouraging but it’s early days. Also, this Oilers team famously stubs toes against lesser opposition.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN JANUARY

  • On the road to: BUF, BOS, TOR, MTL, CAL (Expected 2-2-1) (Actual 2-0-1)
  • At home to: NAS, ARI, CAL, STL (Expected 1-2-1)
  • Overall expected result: 3-4-2, eight points in nine games
  • Current results: 2-0-1five points in three games

I projected five points from the first five games, Oilers grabbed the points in three games. A key moment in the season now, can this club get some bonus points from the final two games of the trip. Even a split sets them up at 3-1-1 heading into the last four games of the month. It’s a big game tonight.

OILERS 2019-20

Sam Gagner will join the lineup, replacing Joakim Nygard who will replace Jujhar Khaira. If you’re looking for an entry spot for Tyler Benson, right now it would be Haas and Chiasson. Maybe they call up Benson and Malone, run them with Haas.

CONDORS 2019-20

Condors lost last night, but Stuart Skinner continues an impressive run out outings recently. In his last three games, his save percentages are .935, .975 and .923. Tyler Benson had two assists and over the last seven games is 1-9-10. Wilde had the lines and pairings, OP with nice updates in-game during the previous thread. Benson recall imminent? Sam Gagner is playing tonight, I think that’s a transaction (Benson up, Gagner to Bakersfield) that will be discussed and perhaps we see it after the All-Star break. Or before.

I think the Benson recall is overdue. I also think Josh Currie, Joe Gambardella and even Brad Malone might be able to fill a role. As we approach the trade deadline, I wonder if Ken Holland has a quick look-see on some of these options. If there’s an internal solution to the Khaira-Gagner issue (I choose Benson, your mileage may vary), a five-game audition seems prudent.

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  1. tileguy says:

    I’m detecting a little sarcasm there Al.

  2. Wonder Llama says:

    Why didn’t Admiral Ackbar warn us about this game?

  3. who says:

    Passing was shit in that 1st period.
    They are sleepwalking through this one so far.

  4. leadfarmer says:

    I’d be very curious to hear what coaching would have to say about the blind backhand passes to nowhere. It’s been contagious

  5. leadfarmer says:

    Keanu looks good ever since he returned the ring to Mordor

  6. Lowetide says:

    Good start by Edmonton.

  7. OriginalPouzar says:

    Great start to the second period.

  8. duct tape and foil says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    Even after taking Konovalov, Rodrigue, and Skinner in the top 3 rounds in the last 3 drafts, I still don’t see a substantial goaltending prospect. Wonder if they look at Askarov at all.

    I think all three have significant potential and Skinner is beginning to show his stuff at the next level. The Oilers are very high on him and have given him lots of rope to develop over the past 1.5 seasons. Skinner should be the starter in the AHL next season if he continues his play, and Rodrigue can start in the ECHL next year and maybe backup in the AHL by end of the year. Konovalov is also very promising and can stay in the KHL for a couple more years. All three are spaced out in age and geography to get the ice time they need.

    Wells is the guy they are not that high on (I agree with the assessment) and Starrett may or may not want or be offered a contract next season given the number of bodies around.

  9. leadfarmer says:

    So if there’s no room because of trapping why the hell are we playing Russell

  10. maudite says:

    Would anyone consider Galchenyuk for Jesse type deal?

    like some package jesse/russel for galchenyuk + pick?

  11. Paulie says:

    Bear nearly gives that goal right back.

  12. New Improved Darkness says:

    Bag of Pucks,

    The vig won’t save the bookie who opens the line wildly off base. Any bookie who survives for long becomes extremely canny about sensing the mood of the market, and noticing early betting patterns (who and how much) so as to correct a badly set line as rapidly as possible. The basic idea stems from the efficient market hypothesis (EMH), that the betting action speaks to the sum total of collective knowledge (aka ignorance, as in Florence/Guilder) and so the line will soon converge—if the bookie is paying proper attention—to where the vig represents reliable cream.

    I strongly suspect it’s actually a mistake to say that the bookies are only in this for reliable cream. Alongside the EMH we have the efficient frontier (EF). This basically says the best you can do is a rising function of how much volatility you’re willing to take on. It might rise by a lot or a little or hardly at all. Depends on the situation.

    The line changes and evolves as different factoids become known leading up to the game, due to such factors as projected line cards, and bad choices at breakfast. (We never win when Kass skips the OJ.)

    Anything that moves with money attached soon becomes a human narrative fixation. The line becomes story, and the canny (and slightly daring) bookie can manipulate the story, if he or she wishes to do so. You take a bit of a risk getting caught with your pants down, and too much gold hanging off one side of your nutsack and with not enough gold hanging off the other side. You might finally end up reaching into your own pocket to set matters straight.

    The bookie with low volatility tolerance can simply allow the line to converge on best information, and never lose (so long as the line was reasonable in the first place).

    But of course marketing, so I’m sure every so often lines are opened up as loss leaders—because allowing the punter to spike one obvious fish in a barrel pays nine other times. (Though you better make sure the fish you softened returns to your specific wicket, or you’re spreading your largess on your sworn enemies, all the other bookies.)

    So HH was not completely wrong, but you have to know more than HH lets on—the straw mattresses hung inside his raincoat are rarely thick—in order to correctly identify why his straw isn’t entirely all wet.

  13. Paulie says:

    23’s line looking good

  14. leadfarmer says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    WC standings using points percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Central
    STL17
    DAL11
    COL10

    Pacific
    ARI9
    VGP8
    VAN7

    Wildcard
    WPG8
    EDM6

    Out of playoffs
    CGY6
    NSH3
    MIN3
    CHI0
    SJS-3
    ANA-4
    LAK-7

    EDM holds the current tie break with CGY for having 19 regulation wins to CGY’s 15.

    Relevant games tonight:

    EDM (+110) at MTL (-130) – This line opened with EDM +135 and everyone piled onto it driving it down to +110.I still think there’s some value there.Classic “trap” game.We’ll see if EDM is maturing and come out to play instead of throwing their sticks on the ice expecting to win.

    ARI (+167) at TBY (-192) – TBY is fire right now. Hill starts for ARI (I like him).No value here imo.

    VAN (+125) at FLA (-145) – Bob starts for FLA, he’s been over .900 once in his last 6 starts (was .903) and gave up 3 on 7 shots before being yanked vs BUF.No idea what to expect.Dys were bombed by TBY last game.This game could be 1-0 or 6-7.No clue.

    WPG (+185) at BOS (-225) – Hellybuyck beat TOR last night and continues to delay his enivitable slide. (*shakes fist at him*)They were lining up 3 along their blue to stop TOR from entering their zone.Lemaire hockey.

    NSH (-140) at CHI (+120) – If Lehner is healthy again this could be close.NSH is good 5v5 but a disaster 4v5.CHI needs to draw some penalties.

    MIN (+135) at CGY (-155) – Talbot won last game for CGY.Wonder if he starts again tonight?

    LAK (+230) at VGP (-280) – Shouldn’t be close

    What you like about Hill? Career 900 sp Ahler that’s being significantly outplayed by a 20 year old rookie in Ahl does not get me too excited

  15. Paulie says:

    16 can’t make a pass to save his life. Really bad choices in trying to force them.

  16. jake70 says:

    ” Just wait,,,Montreal will do the signature collapse in the third,,,if not at some point along the way here”

    Lol. Text from a sibling, big Habs fan ( I failed him in his youth to become an Oiler fan) after Oiler goal. Hope he is right on the collapse.

  17. flyfish1168 says:

    How did Nuge not know Leon was going to backhand pass it to him.

  18. OriginalPouzar says:

    I think Haas may be hurt – McDavid has taken a few of his shifts and, yesterday, while on the air Stauff mentioned that he tweaked something in practice but then a few minutes later was back with his line. Wonder if he aggravated that tonight.

  19. Paulie says:

    Khaira looks awful. Injured or done.

  20. fishman says:

    Have always cheered for JJ. If he is injured why is he playing? If he is NOT injured why is he playing??

  21. OriginalPouzar says:

    That offensive blueline giveaway by Khaira should pretty much be the last straw for some time out of the lineup.

  22. Paulie says:

    fishman,

    PK ability. Thats it.

  23. flyfish1168 says:

    wow the post is the turning point in the game

  24. OriginalPouzar says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I think Haas may be hurt – McDavid has taken a few of his shifts and, yesterday, while on the air Stauff mentioned that he tweaked something in practice but then a few minutes later was back with his line.Wonder if he aggravated that tonight.

    He’s playing – I know nothing.

  25. New Improved Darkness says:

    I don’t think arson qualifies as climate change.

    Forests are finite carbon sinks. Not a lot of capacity to sequester ongoing industrial carbon emissions (we might be able to slightly lushify the world’s forests under careful management, and thereby take some carbon out of atmospheric circulation over the long run).

    It does, however, matter that our forests continue to hold the carbon they already have. Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere traps photons. Carbon in tree bark counts sheep. Trees are carbon’s LTIR. You don’t win the photon-capture Art Ross when you’re tied up in a tree trunk.

    And so prevailing cultural patterns concerning arson end up tied into a forest’s average level of carbon capture, and it does actually matter, though it’s closer in magnitude to fiddling with a deck chair than actually steering the great ship.

    Modern deck chairs are made of plastic these days. When a modern ship sinks, there’s some real carbon capture taking place in Davy Jone’s locker. Unless those deck chairs float. In which case they might actually save a life or two, properly rafted with waterproof violin string.

  26. OriginalPouzar says:

    Mike Smith is not good on breakaways – why does he always end up on his stomach?

  27. Paulie says:

    Khaira hits Oscar tape to tape and maybe its 2-2

  28. leadfarmer says:

    Smith is so bad at breakaways

  29. Paulie says:

    Tribute to Kris Russell

  30. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    I prefer the TSN broadcast crew in MTL over TOR so far.

  31. Paulie says:

    Oilers still in it. At a minimum should be able to get an OT point. I’d like to see Bear and Yamo out in OT but not at same time.

  32. OriginalPouzar says:

    ARI down 4-0 after two.

    VAN down 4-1 with under a minute left in the 2nd.

    WIN down 3-2 with under a minute left in the 2nd.

    It would behoove the Oilers to take care of their own business in the 3rd period tonight.

  33. rickithebear says:

    What the ….. was bear thinking on 2nd GA?

  34. Lowetide says:

    After Two:

    2-1 Montreal (1-1 in the second)
    24-16 Montreal shots (10-10 in the second)
    41-25 Montreal Corsi five on five (21-18 in the second)
    ==

    The game is there for Edmonton, and Montreal is not good enough defensively to shut out the Oilers in the third period. Price could go Superman or the Oilers could beat themselves. I give credit for a better period in the second, Edmonton needs to find another gear in the final 20.

  35. Bulging Twine says:

    Canucks and Coyotes down after 2, Jets tied, Predators up early

  36. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    I have to hand it to you… you sure have your hobby horses and stick to your guns. A real “damn the torpedoes” approach.

  37. Lowetide says:

    rickithebear:
    What the ….. was bear thinking on 2nd GA?

    He was probably thinking ‘Caleb shouldn’t have done that’

  38. geowal says:

    That was some embarrassingly bad play that led to that breakaway.

  39. OriginalPouzar says:

    rickithebear:
    What the ….. was bear thinking on 2nd GA?

    What was Russell thinking on 1st GA?

  40. Paulie says:

    Expect we’ll see some 29-97 shifts in the 3rd. Good time for it too.

  41. Lowetide says:

    Frack that was nice.

  42. jp says:

    Damn beautiful goal! Lovely

  43. delooper says:

    The Witcher.

  44. OriginalPouzar says:

    That was a gorgeous PP goals to tie the game – total set play – Good just Gully!

  45. Bulging Twine says:

    yaaaaa

  46. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    NUUUUUUUUGE

  47. Paulie says:

    Nuge! Great movement and patience on that pp

  48. OilClog says:

    Nuuuuuuge

  49. leadfarmer says:

    Yamamoto is such a beast on the forecheck
    Professor Chaos

  50. Paulie says:

    Nygard having a strong game.

  51. Paulie says:

    Yamo doing well now but once the book on him is out (demon forechecker), we’ll see how he adjusts

  52. Darth Tu says:

    delooper:
    The Witcher.

    Toss a coin to him! Oh valley of plenty!

  53. jp says:

    Wonderful pass by Draisaitl to spring Nuge. Too bad he couldn’t convert.

    Nice shift by the 2 line.

  54. Munny says:

    Nugget wants anudder

  55. Paulie says:

    Nygard again strong on the puck

  56. OriginalPouzar says:

    That second line is flying – beauty set up of Nuge by Drai – line getting better.

    Kailer is the same demon in the offensive zone in the NHL as he was in the AHL.

  57. Munny says:

    Pretty sure I “Voted Nuge” in the last election.

    #writein

  58. OriginalPouzar says:

    Kass and Chiasson have swapped spots for a few shifts now.

  59. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Glad to see Nuge trying to go Upstairs. Where Norman keeps his mother.

    And scorers score.

  60. Bulging Twine says:

    That poor elderly man behind the Habs bench, uncomfortably looking straight up at the scoreboard can’t see a thing in front of him. There are at least nine coaches and trainers between the fans and the players behind the bench and the seats look pretty low. Unlike the old forum when the seats directly behind the bench were raised and there was no glass between the seats and bench. Those seats were occupied by team presidents and other who’s who, creating an almost presiding over feeling.

  61. Munny says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Couldn’t see for sure but I thought Kass saved us on MTL’s last scoring chance.

  62. jp says:

    Chiasson?? Yeah?? Nice!

  63. Munny says:

    Chaser. For the lead. Reja will be pleased.

  64. Paulie says:

    Beautiful!

  65. Ice Sage says:

    Lovely goal amidst some sloppy puck

  66. OriginalPouzar says:

    Another beauty goal to take the lead – great look by Russ over to Klef and from Klef to Chiasson who has made some solid offensive plays.

    Tippett’s line combo shift works!

  67. drglen says:

    yay chaisson

  68. gogliano says:

    Kris Russell doing everything he can to help the Habs end their skid.

  69. leadfarmer says:

    The one time Russell doesn’t back up from blue line into the crease

  70. drglen says:

    Kovalchuk right onto the PP

  71. drglen says:

    nice kill so far

  72. Paulie says:

    With bigger stronger faster players in NHL Yamo will find it harder slogging once the opposition knows what he’s capable of. Smarts, talent and drive leave me optimistic that Yamo will adjust to the adjustments

  73. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    No shit eh?

    Two minutes for effective body checking. :/

  74. drglen says:

    archibold earning his money!!

  75. OriginalPouzar says:

    My goodness Sheahan is good on the PK – Archie too.

    Those were plus additions for the PK alone and now both are contributing offensively here and there.

  76. drglen says:

    good retrieve by Yamo that shift..

  77. geowal says:

    Paulie:
    Yamo doing well now but once the book on him is out (demon forechecker), we’ll see how he adjusts

    They’ll……try to move the puck quicker? Not sure what good a book is on a forechecker. I guess a good transporter can probably carry it past him and leave him caught deep?

  78. Bulging Twine says:

    Bruins take the lead over the jets
    7 minutes left

    Coyotes, Canucks still down big

  79. Munny says:

    Neal really only feels comfortable on his forehand, huh?

  80. Paulie says:

    My guess is they’re not expecting him to get on top of them so fast so more quickness on their part will help. They’ll have to protect puck better too. But Yamo may just be too damn fast

  81. OriginalPouzar says:

    Is Kass hurt or just moved down?

    There has been a revolving door of wingers with McDavid and Neal and, while I thought I saw Kass take a few shifts down the lineup, I can’t recall seeing him for a while

  82. OriginalPouzar says:

    There is Kass – never mind.

  83. jp says:

    Impressive shift from Nygard-Sheahan-Kassian.

  84. Munny says:

    Love that shift

  85. Pretendergast says:

    Nice adjustment by Tippett, switching Kass on the Sheahan line had a few chances and kept the puck far away from our end. Heavy shift

  86. Paulie says:

    Nygard again!

  87. Bulging Twine says:

    Great shift from a depth line late in the third with a one goal lead

  88. Paulie says:

    23 good backcheck

  89. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    I like this new-look third line with Nygard–Sheahan–Kassian.

  90. Ice Sage says:

    Exciting play

  91. Munny says:

    An actual empty netter. True story.

  92. Pretendergast says:

    Archibald deserved that one, buzzsaw all night

  93. jp says:

    Archibald!!

    Bonus shift to protect the lead, bonus goal!

    Nice game from him tonight

  94. drglen says:

    archie scores in the empty net… class not to overcelebrate there.

  95. Paulie says:

    He got it this time! 15 missed from same spot v. TOR

  96. OriginalPouzar says:

    Well, the boys started slow, that’s for sure but, at the end of the day, they got their legs and picked their game up big time for the last half of it – they did what they needed to do to win the game, in regulation as well.

    Some big plays by the big guns and some big plays by the depth players.

    Some great PK work.

    Mike Smith was full value for this win – a massive save on Deanalt when it was 2-0 – that was the turning point. Some additional great saves as the game went on.

    That is 3 wins in a row and 11 points out of the last available 12.

    This team is rolling now.

  97. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    I like this new-look third line with Nygard–Sheahan–Kassian.

    Kassian brings life into all lines!

  98. geowal says:

    We’re going streaking!

  99. leadfarmer says:

    Well 1 point off the division pace. Play Calgary who are having a goaltending crisis

  100. Rich M says:

    Comeback win, road win. Wins in Boston, Toronto and Montreal.

    Outstanding trip.

  101. jp says:

    Damn big win Oilers!!

    Well done to come back from a lacklustre start. Big big points in the standings.

  102. Bulging Twine says:

    2 more points

  103. leadfarmer says:

    I’d be curious what this team would look like with a good 3rd line center centering Benson.

  104. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Ohhhh Archie!

  105. who says:

    Very lucky to win that one.
    Better effort in the 3rd but still.
    At no point in the first 2 periods did Edmonton look like the better team.
    Nygaard was their best player, and it really wasn’t even close.

  106. russ99 says:

    Not the prettiest game but ill take the won.

    Flames on Tabernac Saturday, time to make a big statement.

  107. drglen says:

    big time win. Come back on the road!

  108. drglen says:

    maybe stick with smith in Calgary? Play til he loses?

  109. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Smith’s results are a rollercoaster, but nobody can question his battle level each game

  110. geowal says:

    SN switched over to a Flames-Minny. They mention the game that joined them. “That’s quite the road trip for the Oilers, they’re on a roll.” Look what Hrudey was forced to say, hehe.

  111. Reja says:

    who:
    Very lucky to win that one.
    Better effort in the 3rd but still.
    At no point in the first 2 periods did Edmonton look like the better team.
    Nygaard was their best player, and it really wasn’t even close.

    Cheer up Debbie a wins a win.

  112. Bulging Twine says:

    Smith goes over .500 win pct

  113. Pretendergast says:

    Can the Oilers just win the division so I can watch the battle of the desert in Vegas and Arizona. It’d probably be Betman’s wet dream too.

    Oh and Oilers Flames, that’d be wild.

  114. Munny says:

    Oil had a rare extra night in T.O. Word is, some shenanigans were to be had. The slow start was a bit unsurprising.

    An actual winning streak. Against three Original Sixers, two in the playoffs at this moment, on the road in the eastern time zone. Quality.

    It would have had more effect if it had come against divisional opponents, but I will take it, put it under my pillow and sleep happy.

  115. Bulging Twine says:

    Jones -2 in 7:46

  116. who says:

    Reja: Cheer up Debbie a wins a win.

    Happy they got the win, but playing like shit is playing like shit.
    I bet Tippett didn’t like that effort. At all.

  117. Reja says:

    Munny:
    Chaser.For the lead. Reja will be pleased.

    Big Goal by Chase he won us the game.

  118. hunter1909 says:

    Who remembers those times when the Lowe+MacT Axis would routinely lose season after season, paralyzed like rabbits from proactive hockey management+coaching?

    Holland+Tippett bring the missing link to this team; patience + the missing link from the Lowe+MacT Axis namely the ability to run a team properly.

    Holland+Tippett enter the 2020 season with spare parts left over from the bad old days plus a handful of good to wonderful players and then adding a bunch of nobodies they’ve done something that the Lowetide blog and the rest of the fans have failed to do: exercise patience until the nobodies start picking up the message halfway though the season like we’re all starting to re-witness from the start of the season.

    When the Oilers were dominating to open the season the general Lowetide and elsewhere mentality was unbelief, then when the team sunk back the mentality around here was “they’re fucked” and now what is the consensus?

    It looks like they’re starting to find the range with the no-name players threatening to score timely goals like Chiasson. It’s watching a hockey team finally grow straight and true and to quote Angelo Dundee it’s…”beautiful stuff!”

  119. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    Great win! Van, ‘Zona, and the Peg all lost in reg. Now if the flames lose it will be a perfect night!
    Come on Minny!

    In other news, Pastrnak got another hatty and is now at 35 goals… wow. That guy can score.

    Edit: apparently Vegerville plays tonight too. Come on LA!!!

  120. OriginalPouzar says:

    Some have mentioned Danault as the 3C acquisition target – I never really had much of an opinion as I didn’t really know his game visually.

    It tonight represents his general game then, at just over $3M and signed for next year, hell ya that’s a player I’d welcome.

    Would the Habs let him go and, if so, at what cost? Not a rental, signed for next year and then UFA.

    I’d much rather get a guy like him with a tiny bit of term than pay a big rental price for Pageau – of course, if the price for Danault makes sense – won’t be that cheap given a year of term.

  121. Reja says:

    who: Happy they got the win, but playing like shit is playing like shit.
    I bet Tippett didn’t like that effort. At all.

    I don’t know what game you watched but they controlled the whole third period, which was enough to nab the 2 points with Chase getting the Beautiful winning goal.

  122. Munny says:

    I thought they were out-played through the first two, but also clearly not out-talented. The Habs look like all they really have going for them is “Try” and that worked for them for two periods.

    No way did we give 60 minutes and no doubt publicly Tipp will be unhappy. But like I said above I think there were shenanigans between the TOR and MTL games. They still pulled out the win, so credit to them for that.

  123. OriginalPouzar says:

    Rich M:
    Comeback win, road win.Wins in Boston, Toronto and Montreal.

    Outstanding trip.

    One more game to go and a fairly important one!

    I can’t imagine the team not being ready to go for puck drop in Calgary.

  124. itsaleaf says:

    Tonight was Nygards’ best game. Had four or five net-jam plays. Those will start going in if he keeps it up

    It’s time for Benson to replace Khaira. He was awful.

  125. Rebillled says:

    Great last 8 minutes. Archie at the 8 was great.

    No coincidence he’s out to get the empty netter.

  126. Munny says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    I can’t think of a reason why they would trade him. Would need both an overpay and NHL Fs going back… or at the very least blue chipper or a 1st rounder.

    MTL is so short of forward talent on the roster right now, I don’t think they’d be contemplating trading their top EV TOI and 2nd in EV points, signed for another year.

    They would probably be more than happy to give someone Weber for a quality forward though…

  127. OriginalPouzar says:

    who: Happy they got the win, but playing like shit is playing like shit.
    I bet Tippett didn’t like that effort. At all.

    I bet Tippett did like the way they recovered, battled back and found a way to win the game – good teams win games where they don’t have their A game.

    They’ve been pretty darn good, period over period, for a strech of games now – all teams, elite teams let alone solid/good teams, have bad games and periods.

    They found a way to win – in regulation as well.

  128. who says:

    Reja: I don’t know what game you watched but they controlled the whole third period, which was enough to nab the 2 points with Chase getting the Beautiful winning goal.

    I watched the game where they sucked for 2 periods. How about you?
    Or do you just think, hey, they won, so they must have played well?

  129. Bag of Pucks says:

    Gritty win.

    Best game of the year from the Bottom 6 by my eye.

    Looking forward to the summary tomorrow to see if the fancies line up with that hot take.

  130. RedNed says:

    And the rain started here as the empty netter went in. Yay. Goilers!

  131. Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual says:

    Tough to see them trading him. Further, I think those suggesting he’d be a 3C acquisition are profoundly underrating him. He’d immediately our 3rd best forward and would improve either our 1st or 2nd line (depending on how the Nuge-Drai-Yamo line). If anyone were pushed to 3C in that arrangement, it’d be Nuge.

  132. Darth Tu says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Some have mentioned Danault as the 3C acquisition target – I never really had much of an opinion as I didn’t really know his game visually.

    It tonight represents his general game then, at just over $3M and signed for next year, hell ya that’s a player I’d welcome.

    Would the Habs let him go and, if so, at what cost?Not a rental, signed for next year and then UFA.

    I’d much rather get a guy like him with a tiny bit of term than pay a big rental price for Pageau – of course, if the price for Danault makes sense – won’t be that cheap given a year of term.

    You want madness? How about Danault and Tatar for Nuge, Gagner and a late round pick.

    I love Nuge, but I might do that if there’s a) a chance that Danault would resign here and b) Nuge has no interest in signing again.

  133. Boil-in-the-Oil says:

    Reja: Big Goal by Chase he won us the game.

    It really was. In his hometown Montreal, to see his parents in the stands, cheering like crazy was super cool. Its wonderful how we all just keep cheering for our kids, deep into adulthood.

    Flames next. Who’s in goal?
    GO OILERS!

  134. duct tape and foil says:

    He’s riding a 93.75% SP on the PK which is totally sustainable. Might want to take our winnings off the table before reversion hits like an avalanche (his PK SV% number was 83.33% last year). Khaira and Jones for Kapanen?

    Paulie:
    fishman,

    PK ability. Thats it.

  135. who says:

    Darth Tu: You want madness? How about Danault and Tatar for Nuge, Gagner and a late round pick.

    I love Nuge, but I might do that if there’s a) a chance that Danault would resign here and b) Nuge has no interest in signing again.

    I could see the Habs trading Tatar if they are out of it. Or maybe Domi, if they can’t get him signed. They have Drouin, Domi and Letkenan on the left side if they trade Tatar.
    I can’t see them trading Danault. French Canadian and the only veteran center they have. He’s been very good for them.

  136. barry.moore23 says:

    OriginalPouzar:

    I can’t imagine the team not being ready to go for puck drop in Calgary.

    You must be new around here.

  137. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    By accounts, he’s their tough minutes C tasked with sawing off the opposition’s best.

    Highly unlikely they’ll trade him for anything other than an overpay.

  138. jp says:

    Vegas down 0-4 to the Kings after 1. Weird!

  139. texmex says:

    Darth Tu: You want madness? How about Danault and Tatar for Nuge, Gagner and a late round pick.

    I love Nuge, but I might do that if there’s a) a chance that Danault would resign here and b) Nuge has no interest in signing again.

    Funny you should mention that. Stauffer was chatting with Burke today about the how well rnh plays in Montreal and the bell center. Stauffer then says:

    “Keep that in mind, for down the road folks, cause they (habs) could use a center”

    Hmmmm

  140. Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual says:

    In a swap of Nuge for Danault, I’m quite certain the Oilers would need to add. Not only for the cap hit but Danault does what many people think Nuge does (shutdown, outscoring C). In fairness to Nuge, though, we’re comparing a guy with regular top-6 linemates to one who hasn’t had that luxury.

  141. JimmyV1965 says:

    Really like Tippett’s game mngt. He’s not afraid to mix up the lines and he does it in a logical way. He sees the Sheahan Archie Nygaard line is the only one doing anything, so he throws McDavid in there a couple times. And then throws Nygaard on the first line as well. In the third, McDavid Sheahan and Archie take the dzone draw and then throws on Neal when they penetrate the ozone.

  142. theDjdj says:

    Vegas 4-0 down against the Kings. Can we pull of the Holy Grail of winning and all our rivals losing? Minnesota probably not a strong bet tbh

  143. Darth Tu says:

    Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual,

    texmex,

    who,

    I like Tatar – problem is making the cap space work. Hence the crazy move Nuge plan. For the record my jersey is a Nuge one, I don’t really want to see him go.

    What would the add be on top of Nuge? I through Gagner in mainly as cap fodder and the fact he’s UFA next year which might be enticing to Montreal. They’re still desperate for a long term Left D solution I guess, so does that make one of Samorukov, Lagesson or Jones the add? Rather than a pick I mean.

  144. theDjdj says:

    texmex: Funny you should mention that. Stauffer was chatting with Burke today about the how well rnh plays in Montreal and the bell center. Stauffer then says:

    “Keep that in mind, for down the road folks, cause they (habs) could use a center”

    Hmmmm

    What we even want from the Habs. Gallagher?

  145. OriginalPouzar says:

    duct tape and foil:
    He’s riding a 93.75% SP on the PK which is totally sustainable. Might want to take our winnings off the table before reversion hits like an avalanche (his PK SV% number was 83.33% last year). Khaira and Jones for Kapanen?

    Perhaps his ability on the PK is limiting certain types of high danger chances – preventing the cross seam pass, etc.?

    He’s been on the ice for 3 SH goals all year and the team having success with him on the ice on the PK is not a new thing.

  146. OriginalPouzar says:

    jp:
    Vegas down 0-4 to the Kings after 1. Weird!

    Even if the flames hold on to their one goal lead and win, it is still looking like a very successful night.

  147. flyfish1168 says:

    talbot been very good for the phlegms tonight

  148. JimmyV1965 says:

    Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual:
    Tough to see them trading him. Further, I think those suggesting he’d be a 3C acquisition are profoundly underrating him. He’d immediately our 3rd best forward and would improve either our 1st or 2nd line (depending on how the Nuge-Drai-Yamo line). If anyone were pushed to 3C in that arrangement, it’d be Nuge.

    Why would you say he’s better than RNH? This will be his first year scoring 15 goals. He’s scored 50 pts once.

  149. OriginalPouzar says:

    Peka Rinne scores.

  150. JimmyV1965 says:

    The Oilers did not play well tonight, but they found a way to beat a bad team. There’s something to be said for that. Playoff teams find a way to win, even when they don’t have their plus stuff. Not sayin the Oil are a playoff team. Just sayin.

  151. OriginalPouzar says:

    Woody was on with Gregor and Studs earlier today:

    – Asked about Benson – didn’t say anything we weren’t aware of – like last year, has found his game and is just making so many plays.

    – Asked about Bouchard – “I see him growing before our eyes in that part of the game” – talking about defence. Developing his “proximity to the check” and his “physical relation with the check”. Junior players often play off their check but you can’ give pro players that time and space. Part of it is net play and determining where his opponent goes. Part of it is off the rush. Very coachable kid and has a great relationship with Manson. Playing huge minutes now.

    My personal note: he has come a LONG ways with defencing the rush and the blue line – much more aggressive than the beginning of the year. With the minutes, to my eye, over the last 4-5 games he’s got to be averaging close to 23-25 minutes. He just starting material PK minutes as well.

    – Struds asked about the offence of a guy like McLeod – Woody feels very good about his defensive concious and responsibility, d-zone faceoffs, etc. Trying to develop “habits required to be a production pro hockey player offensive. Often comes from playing on the inside. You have to define what that means and hold the players accountable to what your looking for……… trying to get him the willingness to stay in plays, get your nose in the paint, etc…..”

    – Gregor asks about Maksi and the challenges of going from a scorer to a different type or role – Woody says minutes/opportunities are “merit based”, not about draft position, rank, etc. Challenge for young players is ability to carve out their niche within the team concept while developing skills. He’s seen HUGE gains in his game over the last 6 weeks……. one of the most consistent lines with Cave. He’s learning how to find his way in this man’s league but commanding respect of teammates and his share of the ice. Playing a hard and heavy game. He’s playing important situation – big part of PK, played 4 on 4 and in the shootout. More opportunity will come from him on the PP.

    Personal Note: I agree completely – he’s been so much better the last month, noticeable creating offence more often and making plays.

    – Asked about Persson – Came down with a great attitude and excited to play more minutes. He’s getting PK time for the first time as a pro. Poise and low panic point at offensive blue line – keeps head up and a high ability to find open man. Good first pass. The experience he is gaining on the small ice surface is helping him. Real good teammate.

  152. Gerta Rauss says:

    Another strong win for this group

    I called the sleepy start in texting with a buddy of mine, not surprised to hear they enjoyed themselves in Toronto

    Huge game in Calgary-woot.!

  153. Wonder Llama says:

    JimmyV1965: Why would you say he’s better than RNH? This will be his first year scoring 15 goals. He’s scored 50 pts once.

    Who wants to take this one?

  154. jp says:

    OriginalPouzar: Even if the flames hold on to their one goal lead and win, it is still looking like a very successful night.

    They did, but yeah difficult to complain about and Oilers win and a bunch of rivals losing.

    Also, a fun tidbit I noticed earlier
    Last 10 games:
    Boston 5-1-4
    Toronto 7-1-2

    The Oilers were both of the “1”s.

  155. Bulging Twine says:

    itsaleaf:
    Tonight was Nygards’ best game.Had four or five net-jam plays.Those will start going in if he keeps it up

    It’s time for Benson to replace Khaira.He was awful.

    Nygaard was great in the ozone. I’ve never seen him take the puck to the net like he did tonight, with quickness and determination. Good to see.

  156. Gerta Rauss says:

    LoL

  157. jp says:

    duct tape and foil:
    He’s riding a 93.75% SP on the PK which is totally sustainable. Might want to take our winnings off the table before reversion hits like an avalanche (his PK SV% number was 83.33% last year). Khaira and Jones for Kapanen?

    OriginalPouzar: Perhaps his ability on the PK is limiting certain types of high danger chances – preventing the cross seam pass, etc.?

    He’s been on the ice for 3 SH goals all year and the team having success with him on the ice on the PK is not a new thing.

    Yeah the .9375 SV% isn’t sustainable, but that doesn’t mean Khaira hasn’t been excellent.

    He and Nuge are easily the best Oilers in limiting shots against on the PK. They’re also 1-2 in xGA/60.

    They have been good. And they’ve been lucky.

  158. Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual says:

    JimmyV1965: Why would you say he’s better than RNH? This will be his first year scoring 15 goals. He’s scored 50 pts once.

    Most personal preference, I’d say. Danault does almost all his damage at 5-on-5 and has outpaced Nuge in even strength scoring in 3 of the past 4 years while quite handily outchancing his opposition and being- by my analysis- a better defensive forward. For some numbers to back that up:

    5×5 pts (per-60):
    Nuge – 27, 37*, 34, 21* (1.5, 1.96, 1.75 & 1.13)
    Danault – 33, 27*, 39, 45* (1.82, 1.49, 2.06 & 2.37)
    * denotes prorated over 82 games

    STAT: Nuge / Danault (the past three years)
    CF% 47.4 / 56.2 (4th in the league among Cs w/ 2000+ mins)
    GF% 48.9 / 54.1 (44th in the league)
    SCF% 47.1/ 55.6 (6th in the league)
    HDCF% 47.2/ 56.6 (6th in the league)

    relCF% -2.24 / +4,53
    relGF% +3.25 / +4.08
    relSCF% -2.38 / +3.73
    relHDCF% -2.22 / +4.58

    Now, in fairness to Nuge, these results don’t exist within a vacuum. Danault has played with vastly better wingers on a consistent basis and adding him wouldn’t change the fact that we’d still need to add a top-6 winger (or two). However, even when Nuge had top-6 Ws, he wasn’t a particularly strong 5-on-5 producer.

    All in all, I think they’re close in value but I believe his results better fit what I’d like to see out of my ideal 2C. Since 5-on-5 production is more valuable and there’s a gap in cap hit, I think the Oilers would need to add.

  159. YKOil says:

    I like Danault enough I would over pay for him IF it wasn’t for the one-year term left on his contract after this year. That will be an expensive signing and I would rather not lose RNH.

    Need to add good players.

  160. duct tape and foil says:

    He’s been OK it’s also pretty clear that a good bit of luck and partners (RNH) has helped this year. He was part of a very bad PK last year (83% SV%) but was pretty good two years ago (90%). I’d say he’s a solid PK forward who is also having a nice run of luck. But that’s all he is right now as the rest of his game is a disaster. If adding him to a guy like Jones or Lagesson gets you a better winger then you sign the papers and let someone else try make a player out of him.

    OriginalPouzar: Perhaps his ability on the PK is limiting certain types of high danger chances – preventing the cross seam pass, etc.?

    He’s been on the ice for 3 SH goals all year and the team having success with him on the ice on the PK is not a new thing.

  161. JimmyV1965 says:

    Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual: Most personal preference, I’d say. Danault does almost all his damage at 5-on-5 and has outpaced Nuge in even strength scoring in 3 of the past 4 years while quite handily outchancing his opposition and being- by my analysis- a better defensive forward. For some numbers to back that up:

    5×5 pts (per-60):
    Nuge – 27, 37*, 34, 21* (1.5, 1.96, 1.75 & 1.13)
    Danault –33, 27*, 39, 45* (1.82, 1.49, 2.06 & 2.37)
    * denotes prorated over 82 games

    STAT: Nuge / Danault (the past three years)
    CF% 47.4 / 56.2 (4th in the league among Cs w/ 2000+ mins)
    GF% 48.9 / 54.1 (44th in the league)
    SCF% 47.1/ 55.6 (6th in the league)
    HDCF% 47.2/ 56.6 (6th in the league)

    relCF% -2.24 / +4,53
    relGF% +3.25 / +4.08
    relSCF% -2.38 / +3.73
    relHDCF% -2.22 / +4.58

    Now, in fairness to Nuge, these results don’t exist within a vacuum. Danault has played with vastly better wingers on a consistent basis and adding him wouldn’t change the fact that we’d still need to add a top-6 winger (or two). However, even when Nuge had top-6 Ws, he wasn’t a particularly strong 5-on-5 producer.

    All in all, I think they’re close in value but I believe his results better fit what I’d like to see out of my ideal 2C. Since 5-on-5 production is more valuable and there’s a gap in cap hit, I think the Oilers would need to add.

    Fair enough. Nuge has played with some godawful wingers since the departure of Hall. And I do think his PP play is important. As good as Nuge is on the PK, the strength of his game is actually the PP.

    Why is 5 x 5 play more valuable? Teams spend more time 5 x5, but the Nuge is exceptional on the PP and that has value too. He might not be as good as Drai or McDavid, but the Nuge would improve the PP of virtually every team in the league.

    I doubt the Habs trade Danault anyway. He’s the only legit C they have right now. The better strategy for the Oilers might be getting a couple wingers so Nuge can actually play with some quality.

  162. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:
  163. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Thanks for the update.

  164. slopitch says:

    Re Daneault. I Just tweeted a photo of his puckiq chart. He’s elite 2 way C. If by any chance he’s available the Oilers gotta be in. He’s on a great contract too. Just dont trade Nuge. Gotta be futures and Montreal after the last 8 games might be willing to go scorched earth.

    Take a look if you like https://twitter.com/frozenpools/status/1215537927645732871?s=21

  165. jp says:

    Thanks OP!

  166. hunter1909 says:

    Is this a proper reply or merely a “Harpers Hair” Lowetide response to trolling reply?

    The older I get the less things make sense lol

  167. hunter1909 says:

    Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual,

    If nothing else, you Sir have one of the best internet handles of all time.

  168. hunter1909 says:

    @ Lowetide:

    How about merely giving your posters a finite amount of posts per every day Lowetide exists?

    That way you instantly free the blog from for example those sad Vancouver Island denizens who, despite claiming to be former Oilers fans are little more in 2020 than soft headed old trolls residing in cloud cuckoo land.

    And, those particularly sad ginger headed solicitors hell bent on turning your precious blog into a living in Calgary as an Oilers fan centric load of horse manure.

    Given the current toxic climate around these here parts, I would personally limit people to 5 posts a day. or 7, or even 10 but no more.

    No need to thank me. Happy to help out.

  169. Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual says:

    hunter1909,

    Why thank you!

  170. maudite says:

    I think it’s funny. Hes not abrasive or ignorant or anything. Just doesnt stand firmly planted behind anything when not convenient.

    The fact people keep wandering out into quicksand and peacock about like they are usan bolt about to break some world record is entertaining to me.
    hunter1909,

  171. maudite says:

    Oh I do like the chain comments but count me in boat that Hope’s if chain activated it repopulated to newest comment…its nice for us night shift workers trying to chase rabbit post fury in here.

    Thanks for keeping this up LT. I did subscribe to athletic it’s just too much content for amount of time I have for fruitless mental walkabout while running extremely time sensitive and costly operations.

  172. Yeti says:

    Thank you!

  173. Spartacus says:

    Must’ve been like acid in his mouth.

    Hrudey is my least favorite of all sportscasters. By far.

    Big win, Oilers.

    Keep it rolling in cowgary.

  174. hags9k says:

    jp: They did, but yeah difficult to complain about and Oilers win and a bunch of rivals losing.

    Also, a fun tidbit I noticed earlier
    Last 10 games:
    Boston 5-1-4
    Toronto 7-1-2

    The Oilers were both of the “1”s.

    During the post game presser vs the Leafs, O’Keefe said the Oilers came out and played at a higher level than they have seen from any opponent in quite some time. I found that comment encouraging.
    GOILERS

  175. Lucic n Chong says:

    Thank you LT.

    Thank you all you posters who think you have Kenny Holland in your speed dial

    Thank you Reja for never learning punctuation (love you bud)

    New and Improved Darkness hehe. Brilliant.

    Not enough time for shoutouts. Keep on keeping on fellas. Poof. Ninja.

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