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by Lowetide

Ken Holland invested two second-round picks at the deadline in Andreas Athanasiou. I believe, in a real way, AA could be the replacement for Jesse Puljujarvi. What kind of player is Athanasiou?

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Athanasiou is a fast train, who is also skilled with size (6.02, 188). Per 82 games in the NHL, he has scored 23-19-42. He scored 30 goals in 2018-19, I tried to find a dominant five on five line but he was all over the place. He played 128 minutes with Luke Glendening and Darren Helm, going 44 percent shot differential and 5-7 goals. Spent 96 minutes with Frans Nielsen and Thomas Vanek, but shot differential (45 percent) and goals (3-5) were nothing special.

He scored 21 goals at five on five in a season where his most common center was Luke Glendening. What do we do with that? Does he need a righty center? Did we not get enough sample in those 9 games?

I wrote about Athanasiou and all of the Oilers free agents today at The Athletic. I look at the big winger as being a key item in observing Ken Holland’s team building over the summer. If AA is in fact (as I believe) the new JP, then trading Puljujarvi for picks gets the team back to something resembling a full arsenal of draft picks.

I think AA’s contract, dealing Puljujarvi for picks, and Ethan Bear’s deal will be the major internal roster stories of the club this summer.

CONDORS EVEN STRENGTH ON ICE GOAL DIFFERENTIAL (BLUE)

First, the overall numbers:

  1. Jake Kulevich 44 games, 26-21 (+5)
  2. William Lagesson 25 games, 25-23 (+2)
  3. Joel Persson 27 games, 24-26 (-2)
  4. Caleb Jones 14 games, 11-16 (-5)
  5. Dmitri Samorukov 47 games, 28-34 (-6)
  6. Keegan Lowe 56 games, 39-48 (-9)
  7. Evan Bouchard 54 games, 41-51 (-10)
  8. Brandon Manning 21 games, 9-24 (-15)
  9. Logan Day 48 games, 25-41 (-16)

Now, let’s run those numbers again from December 29 through the end of the season:

  1. Jake Kulevich 27 games, 15-12 (+3)
  2. Keegan Lowe 28 games, 25-23 (+2)
  3. Evan Bouchard 26 games, 22-22 (0)
  4. Joel Persson 15 games, 14-16 (-2)
  5. Dmitri Samorukov 21 games, 13-17 (-4)
  6. Logan Day 26 games, 13-21 (-8)

Evan Bouchard’s second half was a revelation and I do think the number one takeaway. I don’t know that Ken Holland will move out players to clear the way for him, but Bouchard is going to push his way to the NHL and right soon.

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dustrock

Do you have Larsson and Bear as the top 2 RHD and have Bouchard try to beat out Benning?

Bear was a revelation, but we all know some bears that can go a bit non-linear.

Will he be the same quality next year?

dessert1111

Kulevich has had decent reports as a guy who spent some time in the ECHL to being a full time AHLer. I wonder if someone will offer him an NHL deal. Probably won’t be the Oilers, but he seems like better depth than Logan Day if they are choosing between them.

hunter1909

Methinks AA needs more time to figure out how best fit in. Thats what Holland knows also.

Oilers should return to the NHL a powerhouse: with improved defence and McDrai continuing to shock and awe.

hunter1909

dustrock:
Do you have Larsson and Bear as the top 2 RHD and have Bouchard try to beat out Benning?

Bear was a revelation, but we all know some bears that can go a bit non-linear.

Will he be the same quality next year?

As long as they don’t overpay him, he’s gold.

hunter1909

Lowetide: Even if Bear falters, Bouchard and Benning aren’t going to be solutions for top pairing work next season.

Of course not but either one could turn up and blow the doors off at camp and instantly improve the team, kind of like how Boston does things.

Rondo

Hope it’s true

“This is the Beginning of the End of the Pandemic” – Dr. Stephen Smith Announces Hydroxy-Choloroquine Study that is “Game Changer” in Battle Against Coronavirus (VIDEO)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/this-is-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-pandemic-dr-stephen-smith-announces-hydroxy-choloroquine-study-that-is-game-changer-in-battle-against-coronavirus-video/

Rondo

Bloomberg article refers to Chinese study and 15 people take only hydroxychloroquine. Doctors here are using hydroxychloroquine with Zpack and Zinc.

krakman

Rondo,

We all hope this is true but this is a website that also has this headline

Police Shut Down Hobby Lobby Stores in Midwest After Stores Remain Open in Defiance of Coronavirus Lockdown — Moms with Children Hurt the Most

So take it with a big grain of salt and also think of all the moms with no children!

blainer

Rondo:
Hope it’s true

“This is the Beginning of the End of the Pandemic” – Dr. Stephen Smith Announces Hydroxy-Choloroquine Study that is “Game Changer” in Battle Against Coronavirus (VIDEO)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/this-is-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-pandemic-dr-stephen-smith-announces-hydroxy-choloroquine-study-that-is-game-changer-in-battle-against-coronavirus-video/

I would recommend you should start reading other sites. I would suggest you drop the state media which is Foxx and would also recommend you not read CNN. Try to find a source that is not politically connected to reporting and in there you will find something closer to what is real. JMO

yeraslob

For sure. People are uploading videos on youtube of empty hospitals in NYC, the supposed epicenter of this pandemic. What’s going on…?

Rondo

The story is about the doctor not the site. Check the doctor out. You people are so reflective, you see it’s from fox or Trump and it must be a lie. In fact you’re hoping it’s not true. People get so invested in their opinion and cheer for it. Smart people change their minds a lot because they are open to new data. None of us should get stuck on a prior position.

pts2pndr

If it seems too good to be true it probably is. Hope is a beautiful thing you are being cautioned to stay the course with distancing. There is nothing wrong with being cautiously optimistic.

N64

Rondo,

Everything needs to be tested and will be tested. The smart money is on all of the above being applied more and more to see what what we have. It’s not just about what got someone excited behind a microphone. But yes that particular one is on everyone’s safety and effectiveness test lists:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/who-launches-global-megatrial-four-most-promising-coronavirus-treatments

blainer

Woke up this morning..

Got No emails..
Got No staff bothering me..
Got No soliciting..
Got No purchasing to do
Got No phone calls..
Got No messages ..

Got NO problems..

Is this what retirement is like. Kinda boring being isolated though !!

Special shout out to those who recommended Chernobyl. Really enjoyed it.

And sign Bear for 8 years please.

hunter1909

Rondo: Smart people change their minds a lot because they are open to new data.

Not when the data flat out stinks they don’t.

Rondo

How would you know? Do you know more than this Doctor, or the French study , or the Doctor that treated 700 patient with this cocktail and the FDA ( which is permitting emergency use of this cocktail.?

who

hunter1909: Of course not but either one could turn up and blow the doors off at camp and instantly improve the team, kind of like how Boston does things.

Do you really think Benning is “going to blow the doors off” at camp? If so, why?

Spartacus

Rondo,

Any way we can just discuss hockey?

Can you post your discoveries on the Fox news comment boards?

Can we have one refuge from the constant barrage of coronavirus “news”?

Please?

Rondo

Guess his credentials don’t match yours.

Stephen M. Smith, M.D.
EDUCATION:

1985 A.B. – Duke University

Dr. Stephen M Smith
1989 M.D. – Yale University School of Medicine

https://www.smithcenternj.org/about-our-doctors/

Spartacus

Rondo,

So that’s a no?

buck yoakam

ok for all of you folks that were around big e and enjoying the night life in the eighties and nineties other than country clubs (that were basically meat markets) with were your favourite venues for music?…my choices are
#1 Andantes (sean and fiona had an amazing little club that really featured local artists) I think the next act is there now?
#2 The Sidetrack (quality venue with renowned and local acts)
#3 The good old blues on white …need I say more
#4 The Boiler lounge
#5 Railtown
#6 Billy Buds
#7 The Executive Hotel (the fellow who ran that place at the time brought in some great talent , saw the lincolns there)
#8 There was a little club on the corner of white and 104 just down from the commie and I can’t
for the life of me remember the name (it changed hands quite a few times)
#9 The Yardbird Suite (great for music but shhhhh! we are creating here!)
#10 The Inn on Whyte

I know I’m forgetting some and I apologize for that. As my wife and I are doing isolation renovation out on the east coast my mind wanders (not that is anything unusual)…be well!

elgruntus

The Highway Motor Inn. Great for hard rock. Saw Nazareth, Headpins, Kick Axe, White Wolf (several dozen times), Pretty Rough and a very cool Manitoba band, Orphan

Hotel bars had some great music. The Beverly Crest, The Rex, The Capilano, Londonderry Hotel and of course, The Riv Rock Room

VanIsleOil

Spent far too much time in the Eighties frequenting these Edmonton venues:

Denny Andrew’s
Barry T’s,- Oiler hang out
Goose Loonies- WEM at work
Dancing Shoes
Scandals -New wavy
Club Malibu- cheesy
Fast Eddy’s – Moroz at night
Cheers, Beverly Crest
Limelight- Slimelight
CI South
Prime Time
The Hovel
Tin Lizzies
Purple Onion
Gas Pump- Cougarville

Ahhh, to be young and spend your money frivolously….

Spartacus

buck yoakam,

California Pizza on 118th Ave would sell beer to minors on a consistent basis.

Great place.

Leroy Draisdale

Long weekend Sundays the Sidetrack was always packed! Miss that place!

unca miltie

In the seventies, The Stage Door in the Edmonton Plaza Hotel. I actually had a charge account at the hotel that i paid monthly. In 1979 Sept. had my last drink.

Harpers Hair

A ray of hope.

The University of Pittsburgh has developed a potential vaccine.

They hope to fast track clinical trials.

https://triblive.com/local/pittsburgh-allegheny/pittsburgh-scientists-say-coronavirus-vaccine-could-be-fast-tracked-after-key-animal-testing/

N64

Vaccine fast track likely means 2021. One vaccine is in phase 1 testing. Also multiple drugs in compassionate and experimental use with a few in phase 3:

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/19/an-updated-guide-to-the-coronavirus-drugs-and-vaccines-in-development/

OriginalPouzar

While I think most of us were a little under-whelmed with AA’s performance as an Oiler, I cannot get on board with those positing that the trade was a bust. Are those opinions being based on the 9 game sample size? If they were opinions at the time of the trade, sure, I get that, but if they are opinions that changed due to the 9 game sample size, well, I think we’ve all learned something about making decisions based on small sample sizes.

At the time of the trade, I posted trepidation about AA being “McDavid’s winger” as I don’t think pure speed is necessary to gel on McDavid’s wing and I think its more about positioning, hockey IQ and knowing where to be and when to get there.

With that said, the player has big speed and legit skill – you don’t score 30 in the NHL and average 23 per 82 (including down and up seasons) without skill.

Would most trade two 2nd rounders for 23G and 50P for a fast player that is 25 and will cost $3M next year?

I would think generally yes and there is a chance for increased numbers given the potential for playing with higher end linemates.

——————

With respect to his 9 game performance, well, even taking away the fact he was injured in his second game and we don’t know if that effected the rest of the sample, he was also coming from playing out the string on one of the worst teams of the generation to being plastered in to an intense race – that’s tough.

Yes, that is an excuse but sometimes excuses are real.

Pretending that we’ll have a normal off-season and training camp – I think an AA with the mindset of being an Oiler and the season coming up being real, having a training camp with Coach T and his staff, learning the structure and finding some chemistry will be important and set the player up for success.

Not to mention, Coach T learning the player, how to motivate him and how to deploy him – those are Coach T skills that will also help.

Go Andreas!

Spartacus

OriginalPouzar,

Did we learn a lesson with Ryan Strome?

A hint of patience with that player would really have paid off.

If he’d been given a moment to settle in, we’d have had a very capable 3rd line center.

Same goes for AA.

Give him a moment to unpack his bags before putting him back on the bus, or throwing him under it.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

With a little patience we could have potentially had a third line of:

AA – Strome – JP

That would be a load.

Calmerthanyouare

I feel the same as you’ve posted here, plus there has to be a side benefit of him not going on an instant heater and costing more than we want him too. I was personally rooting for an average showing to keep the contract reasonable.

OriginalPouzar

“Evan Bouchard’s second half was a revelation and I do think the number one takeaway. I don’t know that Ken Holland will move out players to clear the way for him, but Bouchard is going to push his way to the NHL and right soon.”

—————–

This is it, right here.

I agree that Ken Holland does NOT need to “open up a spot” for Bouchard.

I am just fine with only Rusty gone and no other change to the defence landing Bouchard at 1RD in the Bake to start the season.

There is nothing wrong with that and Bouchard will almost assuredly crush the AHL in October and, when the call comes, and its likely to come early (in October), he will get his NHL shot and probably never see the Bake again.

The at bats will be there and I think we are all excited given the top shelf development he showed from October to March in Bakersfield.

He improved his gap control, his speed and urgency on puck retrieval, his defensive zone battle (as Woody likes to say “proximity to his check”, etc.

He skated the puck out of the zone in the AHL, Darnell Nurse style – nope, his skating isn’t anywhere near Nurse’s level but he does have that skill in addition to the lovely transition pass.

This old-man kid is going to be something.

Harpers Hair

buck yoakam,

The Grinder on 124 ST hosted some fabulous blues acts.

hunter1909

who: Do you really think Benning is “going to blow the doors off” at camp? If so, why?

No, not Benning lol

To me, Benning is like Yamamoto was. Show something or piss off back to wherever you came from. Yamamoto came though like a champion.

I meant Bouchard, and the other raw rookie defencemen.

buck yoakam

elgruntus,

thats right ! spent many a night at the riviera back when it held about 4- 500 folks…remember seeing great canadian river race and witness incorporated there (kenny shields) also played there in many different configurations…the Corona Hotel also

VanIsleOil

Riv Rock Room…saw Teenage Head, 999,Darkroom,Pointed Sticks, Strange Advance etc. Was a great place for a few years. Lots of Canadian content. Then for hangovers, off to Barb and Ernie’s for the best Eggs Benny.(real butter and white wine in their Hollandaise and massive, thick rounds of ham…to die for!)

meanashell11

Geez, all these old haunts. I lived in Edmonton from 1981-86. It was a fun town! What was the name of the Chinese place where everyone went for dim sum on Sundays?

Cassandra

Rondo:
The story is about the doctor not the site. Check the doctor out. You people are so reflective, you see it’s from foxor Trump and it must be a lie. In fact you’re hoping it’s not true. People get so invested in their opinion and cheer for it. Smart people change their minds a lot because they are open to new data. None of us should get stuck on a prior position.

This wins today’s unintentional irony award.

Doubling down on their opinion in the face of evidence and reasons is the primary characteristic of Trump supporters. They are incapable of changing their positions or doing anything but repeating mantras. This is how bizzare the world has become. The people who are least capable of something resembling critical thought think that they are the only ones engaging in critical thought.

And note this has nothing to do with politics or policy. it doesn’t mean the other side, whoever they are is right. It has to do with reasonableness, and the ability to distinguishing between when someone is being reasonable (which is not the same as being correct) and when they are not.

I say this as someone who is, in many way, a conservative. The embrace of Trump, and the abuse of reason and discourse he represents, is a disgrace.

yeraslob

Ditto for Trudeau

albertaboundedmonton

Add Kenney to this list.

RISTOOOOO SILTANEN!!!!

buck yoakam,

I liked the A-circuit cover band scene in mid to late 80’s. Names are fading, but bands like Click, Winterkill, Nick Danger put on great shows. Back then, my buddies were playing b-circuit metal (all spandex and eye liner… I played in a 50’s show band).

Southside Pub
Fantasy One (before the Terrace Inn closed it to become a ballroom).

Dishonourable mention to the Homesteader in Vegasville (would go on trips to catch friends playing out there, played the room once or twice in the 50’s band)

Later on my fave haunt was the Sidetrack.

For a while, the Cromdale had a blues room open there. Played there once in “Hugh Jorgan” (i might still have that clipping from the Journal). Crowd was single digits, mostly folks who were kicked out of the country bar.

RISTOOOOO SILTANEN!!!!

meanashell11,

Golden Dragon?

meanashell11

On Whyte Ave? If so, yes I think.

RISTOOOOO SILTANEN!!!!

meanashell11,

Golden Dragon was on 97th. Can’t remember the name of the one on Whyte

buck yoakam

maybe the peking kitchen?

Tesla's Hair

Rev and Rebar and Raves in the early 90s. #Alivemonton

defmn

VanIsleOil:
Spent far too much time in theEighties frequenting these Edmonton venues:

The Hovel

Ahhh, to be young and spend your money frivolously….

The Hovel closed in 1977. I used to run the bar there on Thursday night when Steve Boddington, The Rault Brothers etc. were mainstays. Thursday night was the night that paid all the bills for the high end talent they brought in every Friday/Saturday night when The Hovel was the only venue between Toronto and Vancouver booking big name acts.

Its successor ‘The Riverdale Boogie and Sporting Society’ continued as best we could after the city of Edmonton pulled the lease on The Hovel after they spent all their money renovating their new location on Jasper and Ninth. I think the biggest name we ever booked would be kd lang.

I was at the Kingsway the night they shut it down. A riot that lasted several hours. The cops showed up, took one look and locked the doors so nobody could get out. That was exciting. The Rebels and the Bouncers against the 1,200 – 1,500 people that were there that night. When I went back to take a look a week later there were 7 people in the bar with three of them playing music. The fiddle player was in his 70’s and the youngest member of the band.

It was a great time to be young. 😉

buck yoakam

was the hovel above keen craft on jasper and 109th? I agree a fair number of cats cut their teeth there

buck yoakam

ok for sure. the original keen craft music store was on the main floor

NicaOil

I was in res at the UofA fall of 1973 first year and my roomie Mike Zotoff had a Morris car from England, don’t ask. We would leave res and drive over the hi-level to the Kingsway, what a bad ass bar, biggest in Edmonton by far. We would score hashish, acid, mda, mesc right in the front rows in front of the band and have a few beers and head back in that cold weather. Good times in our town.

defmn

buck yoakam:
was the hovel above keen craft on jasper and 109th? I agree a fair number of cats cut their teeth there

Southwest corner when it was a two story and the hovel had the top floor with the cargo bay opening onto the railway. Not sure what was below.

Oil2Oilers

I finally cancelled my sports package on my cable the other day, I am more likely to cut cable all together than add sports back once play resumes.

If my actions are illustrative of larger trends, live Sports exceptionalism in the era of declining broadcast TV and the resulting growth of TV revenue for sports leagues maybe be broken. This will have long term Cap implications beyond the current blip on lost revenue.

tileguy

Anybody remember the Roost? I’m thinking not.

Spartacus

tileguy,

Haha… there’s a pizza place in Inuvik called the Roost.

Always makes me smile to hear someone say the name.

hunter1909

Cassandra: This wins today’s unintentional irony award.

Doubling down on their opinion in the face of evidence and reasons is the primary characteristic of Trump supporters.They are incapable of changing their positions or doing anything but repeating mantras.This is how bizzare the world has become.The people who are least capable of something resembling critical thought think that they are the only ones engaging in critical thought.

And note this has nothing to do with politics or policy.it doesn’t mean the other side, whoever they are is right.It has to do with reasonableness, and the ability to distinguishing between when someone is being reasonable (which is not the same as being correct) and when they are not.

I say this as someone who is, in many way, a conservative.The embrace of Trump, and the abuse of reason and discourse he represents, is a disgrace.

Nice touch calling yourself “conservative” lol

Harpers Hair

Oil2Oilers:
I finally cancelled my sports package on my cable the other day, I am more likely to cut cable all together than add sports back once play resumes.

If my actions are illustrative of larger trends, live Sports exceptionalism in the era of declining broadcast TV and the resulting growth of TV revenue for sports leagues maybe be broken. This will have long term Cap implications beyond the current blip on lost revenue.

Cut cable a month ago…haven’t missed it at all.

I added Sportsnet Now to watch the rest of the hockey season but only paid for a month.

If you’re an Amazon Prime customer you can add channels for $14 month which gives you Global and a bunch of others like History, National Geographic and others.

CBC is free through their Gem app.

We stream everything through Apple TV …saving more than $100/ month.

defmn

tileguy:
Anybody remember the Roost? I’m thinking not.

I do. I put myself through my undergraduate degree driving taxi. The Roost and its predecessor the Flashback were regular stops.

jp

Rondo: “This is the Beginning of the End of the Pandemic” – Dr. Stephen Smith Announces Hydroxy-Choloroquine Study that is “Game Changer” in Battle Against Coronavirus

Is this the same “Steve Smith” who used to frequent Lowetide?

Rondo

Haha

N64

No. Our “Steve Smith” could represent any “Steve Smith”s that botches safety studies or sells the arthritis drug to their friends.

jp

🙂

Harpers Hair

defmn: The Hovel closed in 1977. I used to run the bar there on Thursday night when Steve Boddington, The Rault Brothers etc. were mainstays. Thursday night was the night that paid all the bills for the high end talent they brought in every Friday/Saturday night when The Hovel was the only venue between Toronto and Vancouver booking big name acts.

Its successor ‘The Riverdale Boogie and Sporting Society’ continued as best we could after the city of Edmonton pulled the lease on The Hovel after they spent all their money renovating their new location on Jasper and Ninth. I think the biggest name we ever booked would be kd lang.

I was at the Kingsway the night they shut it down. A riot that lasted several hours. The cops showed up, took one look and locked the doors so nobody could get out. That was exciting. The Rebels and the Bouncers against the 1,200 – 1,500 people that were there that night. When I went back to take a look a week later there were 7 people in the bar with three of them playing music. The fiddle player was in his 70’s and the youngest member of the band.

It was a great time to be young.

Was a regular at the Hovel back in the day…some great acts…Hot Cottage comes tp mind.

defmn

Harpers Hair: Was a regular at the Hovel back in the day…some great acts…Hot Cottage comes tp mind.

Hot Cottage was Steve Boddington’s band. The parties after we closed for the night are the stuff of legends.

Munny

Harpers Hair:
A ray of hope.

The Universityof Pittsburgh has developed a potential vaccine.

They hope to fast track clinical trials.

https://triblive.com/local/pittsburgh-allegheny/pittsburgh-scientists-say-coronavirus-vaccine-could-be-fast-tracked-after-key-animal-testing/

I think all of the more than 40 possible vaccines already in the works are hoping to fast track.

We have a crap record at creating vaccines that can defeat viruses, but 40+ is a worthy number of dice rolls. Fingers crossed.

N64

Exactly. The promising thing this time was how quickly multiple current tech platforms could design and select from candidates. Safety testing and effictiveness testing still need to benefit from new approaches. You can’t cut the number of iterations to hit safety and effectiveness. But maybe they can pool knowledge (with so much other bioresearch sidelined) and decrease time per iteration.

N64

Huge effort need to evaluate and test many drug candidates for safety and effectiveness to have a better tool box in our hospitals by Fall. #NotAboutAnyonesFavs

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/02/former-fda-chief-scott-gottlieb-coronavirus-drug-needed-by-fall.html

leadfarmer

Rondo,

https://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/2764199/use-hydroxychloroquine-chloroquine-during-covid-19-pandemic-what-every-clinician

While there is some anecdotal evidence the studies so far are incredibly flawed. On top of that there’s been a run on hydroxychloroquine meaning the people with proven benefit aka arthritis patients aren’t going to get it.
You can find a doctor out there that can say anything. What you are looking for is societal consensus from evaluating much better data that should be coming in weeks. Until then nothing changes.

leadfarmer

Munny: I think all of the more than 40 possible vaccines already in the works are hoping to fast track.

We have a crap record at creating vaccines that can defeat viruses, but 40+ is a worthy number of dice rolls.Fingers crossed.

I’m worried that in the race to make a vaccine we will pick one that doesn’t work that well that will give everyone a false sense of security

N64

While we hunt for safe vaccine antigens another track is a one month antibody initially for healthcare workers and the most vulnerable and that doubles as an early treatment. Would take off a lot of that pressure and buy a lot of time if doable.

Munny

Well that’s why they will all have to go through trials first.

But yes there is still a risk there.

Munny

defmn: Hot Cottage was Steve Boddington’s band. The parties after we closed for the night are the stuff of legends.

Which brings up the next section… Best After Hours places in the Edmonton night life:

1. For dancing… originally Flashbacks and after it closed The Roost
2. Yiannis Taverna basement lounge and later the Greek Businessman’s Club (near The Sidetrack)
3. The Boiler
4. And if you couldn’t find an after hours party but needed a beer at 3am… Holiday Pizza by Bonnie Doon (I think that’s what its name was)
5. And for straight up late night food—I won’t get this name right— South China Seafood Palace.

elgruntus

buck yoakam,

Ah Witness Inc. Still have the 45 of Harlem Lady

defmn

Munny: Which brings up the next section… Best After Hours places in the Edmonton night life:

1.For dancing… originally Flashbacks and after it closed The Roost
2. Yiannis Taverna basement lounge and later the Greek Businessman’s Club (near The Sidetrack)
3. The Boiler
4.And if you could find nowhere but needed a beer at 3a… Holiday Pizza by Bonnie Doon (I think that’s what its nae was)
5. And for straight up late night food—I won’t get this name right— South China Seafood Palace.

A lot of old fogies on this blog. 😉

defmn

Finally we have completed our 14 days of self incarceration. It wasn’t that big a deal but I am looking forward to getting out and taking care of a few things.

N64

Hah. Just saw a “There has been a critical error on your website” message on this site.

~ It did not mention which poster made the critical error. ~

OriginalPouzar

dustrock:
Do you have Larsson and Bear as the top 2 RHD and have Bouchard try to beat out Benning?

Bear was a revelation, but we all know some bears that can go a bit non-linear.

Will he be the same quality next year?

He may suffer a sophomore slump but he could be even better.

Potential reasons to be better (off the top of my head):

– He was an NHL rookie at 22 last season – years from his prime and still developing. Natural progression

– He play top 4 minutes all year and often first pairing minutes – he did so with Larsson hurt for 2 months so his “help in the top 4″ was often Joel Persson or Kris Russell. With a healthy Larsson, he should have help in the top 6”

– If we want to talk offensive production, well, he had limited PP time, in particular PP1 time. Tough to move Klef off that unit given how dominant it was on a whole and Bouchard will likely be in the conversation but one could see him with more PP time.

Development is not a straight line, as you say and as we know, however, while he may take a step back or still be a bit inconsistent, on the whole, he’s likely to improve year over year for a bit still.

OriginalPouzar

TSN had a panel to vote for the major awards:

https://www.tsn.ca/history-suggests-nhl-awards-for-2019-20-season-will-be-distributed-1.1462822

Only unanimous was Drai for Hart.

They also had:

Makar for Calder

Josi for Norris

Hellebuyuk for Vezina

Cassidy for J. Adams

Ferarro, Poulin, Noodles, Button and M. Johnson with the votes

Reja

Munny: Which brings up the next section… Best After Hours places in the Edmonton night life:

1.For dancing… originally Flashbacks and after it closed The Roost
2. Yiannis Taverna basement lounge and later the Greek Businessman’s Club (near The Sidetrack)
3. The Boiler
4.And if you couldn’t find an after hours party but needed a beer at 3am… Holiday Pizza by Bonnie Doon (I think that’s what its name was)
5. And for straight up late night food—I won’t get this name right— South China Seafood Palace.

Sugars downtown open well past 3am for the bad boy Esk’s, Oilers and general population.