August and Everything After

The world should be thankful for hockey. In Canada, the very best of us devote all of their youth and much of their first four decades to the pursuit of excellence in the sport. The northern nation dabbles in the other pursuits, but when it comes to hockey, plug in, flush out and fire the f’in feed. The playoffs are ahead. The power and the glory, forever and ever, amen.

THE ATHLETIC!

Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. I am proud to be part of The Athletic. Here are the most recent Oilers stories.

How good are these Oilers? At the top end, the club is championship calibre. The best way to express this is to list the players who landed on the correct side of five on five goal differential. First the forwards, January 1 to the end of the season:

  1. Kailer Yamamoto 30-13 (70 percent)
  2. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 30-14 (68 percent)
  3. Leon Draisaitl 33-16 (67 percent)
  4. Joakim Nygard 5-3 (63 percent)
  5. James Neal 10-7 (59 percent)
  6. Alex Chiasson 9-7 (56 percent)
  7. Connor McDavid 20-20 (50 percent)
  8. Gaetan Haas 4-4 (50 percent)

This is two men who push the river (McDavid, Draisaitl) and some impressive complementary players but no one should underestimate the importance of Yamamoto over (say) Rattie. You need these players to succeed, and in the era of the salary cap, you need some of them to be making less than $1 million. A good list. Now, the blue, from January 1 to the end of the season:

  1. Caleb Jones 21-13 (62 percent)
  2. Adam Larsson 25-20 (56 percent)
  3. Oscar Klefbom 19-17 (53 percent)
  4. Ethan Bear 25-23 (52 percent)
  5. Darnell Nurse 24-23 (52 percent)
  6. Matt Benning 9-9 (50 percent)

Jones may not grab a starting spot on August 1 but he earned it down the stretch. Klefbom-Larsson were rock solid and Nurse-Bear performed well, too.

THE BOTTOM SIX FORWARDS

Here is the area that will need work in the offseason, beginning with a third-line center. You’d love Gaetan Haas to grow into the role but my guess is we see some shoring up by Ken Holland. Here are the bottom six forwards since January 1:

  1. Joakim Nygard 5-3 (63 percent)
  2. James Neal 10-7 (59 percent)
  3. Alex Chiasson 9-7 (56 percent)
  4. Gaetan Haas 4-4 (50 percent)
  5. Josh Archibald 12-18 (40 percent)
  6. Jujhar Khaira 7-12 (37 percent)
  7. Riley Sheahan 9-20 (31 percent)
  8. Patrick Russell 2-11 (15 percent)

This is the area Ken Holland will address over the offseason. Sheahan has not been re-signed, and some of those already under contract (Neal, Chiasson, Khaira) could be dealt. For free agent Patrick Russell, getting a deal and winning a job may be difficult. Josh Archibald, Joakim Nygard and Gaetan Haas have all signed recently for 2020-21, so a roster spot is clearly in view. However, burying those deals in the minors wouldn’t touch the cap room much, if at all.

I think Holland did some of his offseason procurement at the deadline, bringing in Andreas Athanasiou plus UFA’s Tyler Ennis and Mike Green. That bottom six forward group is going to receive some tweaks.

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135 Responses to "August and Everything After"

  1. jtblack says:

    “How good are these Oilers?”

    Good Enough. The truth is all teams could win a round or two. Hot Goalie andd / or big overtime goal and Bam, you move on.

    But few teams have what Edmonton has.

    MCDAVID
    DRAISATL

    Connor is a nightmare matchup for every team.
    Draisatl is the Art Ross winner.

    Edmonton has dreamed of 2 star Centres since #99 & #11 left town.

    We have that now.

    I see a real opportunity for a Long Playoff run from this team. 🙂

  2. Brantford Boy says:

    This team, if healthy and players are in game shape ready to go after the pause can do some damage in the playoffs. We have depth in the first time since forever. I suspect the only teams to be concerned about are the Jets, Kyle Connor burns us somehow every time and the games are wide open (Smith starts)… and the Golden Knights, I’ll list Fleury, Stone and Reeves who is capable of putting any player not paying attention to the hospital for a long time (Smith starts again). I give the nod to Koskinen for all the other series.

  3. dustrock says:

    Can we agree that you’d like to see McDavid at >50%?

  4. Munny says:

    It looks like anyone’s ball game from my bleacher seat.

    The team that is best able to elevate their game and intensity coming out of the hockey vacuum, while getting quality goaltending, will win this thing. Could be anyone. Could be us.

  5. dustrock says:

    Playoffs in August. Our hockey pool usually meets for a fun draft weekend ahead of the regular season in late August or early September, we rent a cabin, play a game of football (slower every year) and have some beers, and the last evening we pick our teams.

    Now instead we’ll be measuring out the backyard to see how many people we can comfortably fit and examine the best angle to see the TV when we pull it out to the patio.

    2 months ago I freely admit I thought they should cancel the season.

    Now I’m watching Italian soccer without crowd noise and almost getting used to it.

    Interesting times.

  6. OriginalPouzar says:

    Its not talked about outside of Edmonton as much as I think it should be – this was a different hockey team in 2020 – the sixth best team by record, which includes 6-7 games without McDavid.

    Is it fair or honest to simply analyze the team and exclude out certain portions of the season? Maybe not but, on the other hand, that is the team we saw when the pause commenced.

    What team will come back?

  7. godot10 says:

    I think the NHL will be playing to near empty buildings next season. The divisions will be re-arranged temporarily, with an all-Canadian division, to get around the travelling across the border issues.

    There will only be intra-division play. And there will be a similar tournament for the playoffs with two hub cities.

    The year after that 21-22 we start getting back to normal, with better treatments or a vaccine probably available.

  8. Lowetide says:

    dustrock:
    Can we agree that you’d like to see McDavid at >50%?

    They need a defensive forward on that line, a Kurri. McDavid’s fast breaks can lead to one quick chance and then jailbreak the other way. Oilers have to be stronger on the counter.

  9. godot10 says:

    godot10:
    I think the NHL will be playing to near empty buildings next season.The divisions will be re-arranged temporarily, with an all-Canadian division, to get around the travelling across the border issues.

    There will only be intra-division play.And there will be a similar tournament for the playoffs with two hub cities.

    The year after that 21-22 we start getting back to normal, with better treatments or a vaccine probably available.

    Vancouver
    Calgary
    Edmonton
    Winnipeg
    Toronto
    Ottawa
    Montreal

    LA
    Anaheim
    San Jose
    Arizona
    Dallas
    Colorado
    Minnesota
    Vegas

    NY Rangers
    NY Islanders
    Philadelphia
    New Jersey
    Pittsburgh
    Columbus
    Washington
    Carolina

    Boston
    Detroit
    Buffalo
    Chicago
    St. Louis
    Nashville
    Tampa Bay
    Florida

  10. OriginalPouzar says:

    Haven’t had a chance to read this yet but Wheeler and Nugent-Bowman on the Oilers top prospects:

    https://theathletic.com/1921114/2020/07/11/finding-an-nhl-comparable-for-the-top-10-oilers-prospects/

  11. godot10 says:

    Lowetide: They need a defensive forward on that line, a Kurri. McDavid’s fast breaks can lead to one quick chance and then jailbreak the other way. Oilers have to be stronger on the counter.

    Hey Zack! Know your job. Do your job.

    But he doesn’t know his job. And he is incompetent at doing his job.

  12. JimmyV1965 says:

    Oilers are truly a wildcard. With McDavid and Drai leading the charge, they could win it all. Or they could lose three straight to a hot goalie in Chicago. Teams will go straight from training camp to life or death hockey. Will be very strange and different for every player in the league and will create some wild surprises.

  13. JimmyV1965 says:

    godot10:
    I think the NHL will be playing to near empty buildings next season.The divisions will be re-arranged temporarily, with an all-Canadian division, to get around the travelling across the border issues.

    There will only be intra-division play.And there will be a similar tournament for the playoffs with two hub cities.

    The year after that 21-22 we start getting back to normal, with better treatments or a vaccine probably available.

    You tend to make some wild and very specific predictions, which is kinda odd. Anything can happen I guess; even this prediction. You should go into the computer modelling business.

  14. Shane says:

    JimmyV1965,

    I tend to like this prediction for next season, very interesting.

    It’s Godots affinity for cheering against certain Oilers that I find kind of odd..

  15. defmn says:

    Elliotte Friedman
    @FriedgeHNIC
    ·
    27m
    Hearing that, from now on, NHL will be handling all injury updates in Phases 3 and 4

  16. Todd Macallan says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Haven’t had a chance to read this yet but Wheeler and Nugent-Bowman on the Oilers top prospects:

    https://theathletic.com/1921114/2020/07/11/finding-an-nhl-comparable-for-the-top-10-oilers-prospects/

    It is a good read, with the exception of Rasanen somehow being #8 on the top ten list. He would not make my top 20.

  17. godot10 says:

    Shane:
    JimmyV1965,

    I tend to like this prediction for next season, very interesting.

    It’s Godots affinity for cheering against certain Oilers that I find kind of odd..

    I don’t cheer against certain OIlers. It is called tough love.

  18. defmn says:

    Todd Macallan: It is a good read, with the exception of Rasanen somehow being #8 on the top ten list. He would not make my top 20.

    Cult of Hockey is doing their top 20 at the moment. They have Rasanen at #19.

    https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/top-prospect-for-edmonton-oilers-third-line-centre-is-so-close-yet-so-far/

  19. OriginalPouzar says:

    Seems like the league is “half-pregnant” on if the play-in round teams are playoff teams or not.

    League has stated that they are deemed to have made the postseason and played a playoff round, however, we know they aren’t yet on for determination of playoff performance bonuses (I.e. Smith) and, as per Thomas Drance:

    Following up on this, I’m told the #Canucks  requested clarification on this matter from the NHL.

    League confirmed with the club that if VAN was to lose to the Minnesota Wild in the qualifying round, they *won’t* have made the playoffs and will retain their Phase 2 lottery pick

  20. defmn says:

    godot10: I don’t cheer against certain OIlers.It is called tough love.

    I’m not sure ‘tough love’ means what you think it means. 😉

  21. JimmyV1965 says:

    Shane:
    JimmyV1965,

    I tend to like this prediction for next season, very interesting.

    It’s Godots affinity for cheering against certain Oilers that I find kind of odd..

    I actually think the prediction is quite reasonable and plausible. It’s the specificity I find interesting and kinda funny. He even placed the teams in each division. Again totally reasonable. But predictions are hard. When the pandemic first hit, he predicted 100 million deaths very early. Again, quite plausible at the time. But predictions are hard.

    For what it’s worth, I think Godot brings tremendous value to this board; much much more than me. And I largely agree with his views on Kassian’s skill level and contract. It’s just a tad bit rabid.

    The one prediction I’m on board with is his assessment of Nurse. That kid is going to be a beast for this team and Godot is one of his biggest cheerleaders.

  22. OriginalPouzar says:

    Sounds like Baerschi has opted out and Lind is joining.

    I’m guessing he simply didn’t want to come back to North America and subject to all the protocols when he was unlikely to see game action.

  23. Brantford Boy says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Defenceman Travis Hamonic, 29, is the first known player to opt out of the hockey league’s plan to resume its season.

    https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/29443721/calgary-flames-travis-hamonic-first-opt-nhl-restart

    Road through Alberta just got easier…

  24. Shane says:

    JimmyV1965,

    Absolutely agree! I enjoy reading Godots opinions and it’s great value for the board.

    Especially now that we all know the ‘love’ for Kass !

    ?

  25. Harpers Hair says:

    The AJHL plans to play in September.

    ‘https://calgaryherald.com/sports/hockey/ajhl-set-to-start-schedule-in-september/wcm/e7b9ae82-4f88-4120-82bf-92b0f3592aab?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1594489658

  26. defmn says:

    Elliotte Friedman Retweeted
    luke fox
    @lukefoxjukebox
    ·
    57m
    Maple Leafs and Oilers both postpone hub-city news conferences today, under direction from the National Hockey League with respect to Canadian government.

  27. JJ says:

    If Jesse won’t join the team,

    is this equation solvable?

    Jesse Puljujarvi + X = Centre Jesperi Kotkaniemi + Y

    Jesperi is in a “needs to bounce back” place.

    I love Math.

  28. Lowetide says:

    New for The Athletic: Joakim Nygard’s Oilers season reveals speedster with range of skills. He could be a hidden gem for the coming 2020 playoffs and here’s why:

    https://theathletic.com/1919875/2020/07/11/lowetide-joakim-nygards-oilers-season-reveals-speedster-with-range-of-skills/

  29. Richard Roma says:

    Great post Lowetide, but the ad at the end stole the show.

    Synthetic ice? That’s a thing? Where have I been.

  30. defmn says:

    Seth Rorabaugh
    @SethRorabaugh
    ·
    28m
    Per Jim Rutherford, Zach Trotman will not participate in the tournament. Declined to get into specifics.

    Rutherford indicated he would not travel for the tournament at the start.

  31. OriginalPouzar says:

    Smith was on the ice today – that leaves just Green and Jones as the two players that haven’t been see on Rogers’ ice as part of phase two. Nugent-Bowman says they had been quarantining or making travel plans and, as of now, noone is expected to opt out for the Oilers.

  32. €√¥£€^$ says:

    godot10: Vancouver
    Calgary
    Edmonton
    Winnipeg
    Toronto
    Ottawa
    Montreal

    LA
    Anaheim
    San Jose
    Arizona
    Dallas
    Colorado
    Minnesota
    Vegas

    NY Rangers
    NY Islanders
    Philadelphia
    New Jersey
    Pittsburgh
    Columbus
    Washington
    Carolina

    Boston
    Detroit
    Buffalo
    Chicago
    St. Louis
    Nashville
    Tampa Bay
    Florida

    I like this concept.

    A couple of months ago I suggested that the respective AHL teams should be imbedded with the parent club and all games to consist of an AHL-NHL double header. I am not sure how the financial mechanisms would work, but it would be better for development than having a 10 or 15-man taxi squad.

  33. OriginalPouzar says:

    More on the Mike Smith bonus – i wasn’t aware of the actual structure of his potential $750K of playoff related bonuses. Seems its $125K if the Oilers make the playoffs (and goes up from there if they win rounds). As of now, the Oilers have not made the playoffs for this purpose:

    https://puckpedia.com/PPCBA

    Performance Bonuses for Non-Entry Level Players for 19-20

    Some players that are not on Entry Level Deals have performance bonuses in their contracts, such as previously injured players or those 35+.

    For determining their achievement of bonuses, if earning the bonus was based on:

    -their team making the playoffs, that is only earned once the team enters the Round of 16 (either won the qualifying round or automatically makes Round of 16)

    -their team winning playoff rounds, the Qualifying Round does not count. The first round won would be the Round of 16

  34. OriginalPouzar says:

    This is also interesting and could potentially apply to AA (and even Benning but I doubt that):

    Special Arbitration Wrinkle for 2020

    For only the 2020 off-season, there’s a special arbitration wrinkle.

    Normally, if an RFA player and a team go to arbitration, and the team elects to walk away from the arbitration award, the player is a UFA and cannot sign with the team that walked away.

    Likely because of the expected cap crunch, there’s a chance for a “do-over”.

    Within 4 days of a team walking away from a player’s arbitration award, the team and player can agree to a contract that’s equal to the offer the team presented in the arbitration hearing.

    This might give a player a chance to rethink things if they ask for and win an arbitration award that the team cannot afford.

  35. OriginalPouzar says:

    Jack Michael’s projected lineup (which mirrors what I think Coach T. will do except I expect Green in over Benning if he’s available – not sighted yet, officially):

    Projected Oilers lineup, Game 1 vs Chicago…

    Ennis-McDavid-Kassian

    RNH-Draisaitl-Yamamoto

    Athanasiou-Sheahan-Archibald

    Neal-Khaira-Chiasson

    *Nygard, Haas

    Klefbom-Larsson

    Nurse-Bear

    K. Russell-Benning

    *Jones

    Smith Koskinen

    Note: Five of six ‘D’ vets of 2017 EDM playoff run.

  36. OriginalPouzar says:

    Hmmm, Michaels has deleted the tweet with his projected lineup…

  37. Bruce McCurdy says:

    godot10: Hey Zack!Know your job.Do your job.

    But he doesn’t know his job.And he is incompetent at doing his job.

    Oilers penalty, #44, Zack Kassian. 2 minutes for not being #17, Jari Kurri. Time: immemorial.

  38. Reja says:

    dustrock:
    Playoffs in August. Our hockey pool usually meets for a fun draft weekend ahead of the regular season in late August or early September, we rent a cabin, play a game of football (slower every year) and have some beers, and the last evening we pick our teams.

    Now instead we’ll be measuring out the backyard to see how many people we can comfortably fit and examine the best angle to see the TV when we pull it out to the patio.

    2 months ago I freely admit I thought they should cancel the season.

    Now I’m watching Italian soccer without crowd noise and almost getting used to it.

    Interesting times.

    I myself will never get used to no fans it almost becomes a video game without a real crowd. I just don’t think contact sports like hockey will play out well without crowd participation we shall see shortly.

  39. slopitch says:

    dustrock:
    Can we agree that you’d like to see McDavid at >50%?

    Important to remember that Drai got 93 and 56. Also AA was an attempt to fix that. He got hurt and only got 9 games. Id still like to see a proper 2 way winger. LT suggested Kurri. I think we would see the gf numbers tilt in a hurry with a good winger. Lets hope the AA experiment works!

  40. OriginalPouzar says:

    jtblack:
    “How good are these Oilers?”

    Good Enough.The truth is all teams could win a round or two.Hot Goalie andd / or big overtime goal and Bam, you move on.

    But few teams have what Edmonton has.

    MCDAVID
    DRAISATL

    Connor is a nightmare matchup for every team.
    Draisatl is the Art Ross winner.

    Edmonton has dreamed of 2 star Centres since #99 & #11 left town.

    We have that now.

    I see a real opportunity for a Long Playoff run from this team.

    They certainly have the ability to win a few rounds if not go quite deep.

    Two goalies that can each get hot for periods of time. An “elite goalie” isn’t needed for the playoffs for a goalie “on his game” is.

    Depth throughout the forwards and the D – nope, noone is replacing a McDavid or Drai if hurt but that goes for the top players on all teams.

    Two legit NHL D (an argument can be made for 3 or 4) healhty scratched.

  41. OriginalPouzar says:

    I am starting to wonder if Mike Green will be a part of this for the Oilers….. hasn’t been seen on the ice yet (that I know of) and that tweet that Jack Michaels had up (that disappeared) didn’t have him listed at all (and have Jones listed as a healthy scratch).

  42. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lowetide: They need a defensive forward on that line, a Kurri. McDavid’s fast breaks can lead to one quick chance and then jailbreak the other way. Oilers have to be stronger on the counter.

    Do they need a defensive forward or to be more responsible defensively?

  43. JOFA says:

    Gregor stated that there was a positive test. Maybe that accounts for one of the players that hasn’t skated?

  44. Reja says:

    OriginalPouzar: Do they need a defensive forward or to be more responsible defensively?

    How is Mcdavid’s which I think future line-mate Lavoie defensively?

  45. Reja says:

    JOFA:
    Gregor stated that there was a positive test. Maybe that accounts for one of the players that hasn’t skated?

    Was it Robbie schremp.

  46. Pescador says:

    Reja: Was it Robbie schremp.

    Yes,
    That’s what happens when you ride with the full patch, coffee shop biker gang and get your picture taken.

  47. JimmyV1965 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I am starting to wonder if Mike Green will be a part of this for the Oilers….. hasn’t been seen on the ice yet (that I know of) and that tweet that Jack Michaels had up (that disappeared) didn’t have him listed at all (and have Jones listed as a healthy scratch).

    Think he had a virus of the liver a couple years ago. Might decide to opt out.

  48. Pescador says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Jack Michael’s projected lineup (which mirrors what I think Coach T. will do except I expect Green in over Benning if he’s available – not sighted yet, officially):

    Projected Oilers lineup, Game 1 vs Chicago…

    Ennis-McDavid-Kassian

    RNH-Draisaitl-Yamamoto

    Athanasiou-Sheahan-Archibald

    Neal-Khaira-Chiasson

    *Nygard, Haas

    Klefbom-Larsson

    Nurse-Bear

    K. Russell-Benning

    *Jones

    Smith Koskinen

    Note: Five of six ‘D’ vets of 2017 EDM playoff run.

    Neal & Chaisson on the 4th line?
    It’s true then, Tippett reads this blog
    Smart coach

  49. Munny says:

    Pescador,

    Pretty sure we got it from Tippett, not the other way around.

  50. Munny says:

    JimmyV1965: Think he had a virus of the liver a couple years ago. Might decide to opt out.

    He did. Fought it from training cap till they finally pulled the plug in March, which was kind of weird.

    Weird too how we not only picked up the player that destroyed Gagner’s jaw… but also the player that destroyed Thoresen’s testicle.

  51. leadfarmer says:

    Pescador: Neal & Chaisson on the 4th line?
    It’s true then, Tippett reads this blog
    Smart coach

    Really need AA to be a top 6 quality forward on that 3rd line.

  52. N64 says:

    €√¥£€^$: I like this concept.

    A couple of months ago I suggested that the respective AHL teams should be imbedded with the parent club and all games to consist of an AHL-NHL double header.I am not sure how the financial mechanisms would work, but it would be better for development than having a 10 or 15-man taxi squad.

    Like the Canadian division. AHL teans recalling to same cities solves the extended Covid roster where players end up idle

  53. Melman says:

    Richard Roma:
    Great post Lowetide, but the ad at the end stole the show.

    Synthetic ice? That’s a thing? Where have I been.

    Lucky you! Apparently I have a chronic ear wax problem of which I was previously unaware 🙂

  54. JOFA says:

    Reja: Was it Robbie schremp.

    Well I don’t wish that on anyone, but I do appreciate your humor. I hope Schremp is healthy, and you never know, the Black Aces may play a huge role in who hoists the cup this year. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that?

  55. OriginalPouzar says:

    Schedule:

    Game 1 – 8/1 3:00 pm eastern
    Game 2 – 8/3 10:30 pm eastern
    Game 3 – 8/5 10:30 pm eastern

  56. OriginalPouzar says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I am starting to wonder if Mike Green will be a part of this for the Oilers….. hasn’t been seen on the ice yet (that I know of) and that tweet that Jack Michaels had up (that disappeared) didn’t have him listed at all (and have Jones listed as a healthy scratch).

    Boom – Green has opted out.

  57. OriginalPouzar says:

    With Green opting out, the playoff condition that could have turned the 4th round pick in to a 3rd round pick does not vest.

  58. JOFA says:

    Interesting. I hope he’s doing well. Thanks for the updates OP.

    I’m happy with Benning playing on the 3rd pairing, or do we see Jones slide over? There will definitely be injuries. Does the old man play a game?

  59. OriginalPouzar says:

    For me, the Green opt out kind of shuts the door on potentially re-signing me. Don’t get me wrong, that has NOTHING to do with his decision, its solely based on the fact that, for me, I needed to see him play more games before I was willing to have him replace Benning as the inumbrant 3RD.

    I wouldn’t feel comfortable moving Benning and re-signing a Mike Green that is turning 35 and coming off a poor season. I would need to see him have some success on the ice in a winning org first.

  60. pts2pndr says:

    godot10: Hey Zack!Know your job.Do your job.

    But he doesn’t know his job.And he is incompetent at doing his job.

    Your usual intelligent comments are devalued by your myopic prejudiced comments re Kassian! Saying the same think over and over doesn’t make you right but does make it tedious!

  61. JOFA says:

    I hope this means we re-sign Benning. Unfortunately, it may give him more leverage.

  62. Lowetide says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    For me, the Green opt out kind of shuts the door on potentially re-signing me.

    Dammit OP, we haven’t even had a chance to make an offer! Harsh!

  63. OriginalPouzar says:

    godot10: Hey Zack!Know your job.Do your job.

    But he doesn’t know his job.And he is incompetent at doing his job.

    Is 2.21 P/60 part of his job?

    (As an aside, 1.03 G/60, just behind McDavid at 1.19 and Drai at 1.13).

    Kass is NOT a good defensive player which is too bad – if he played like he can and was solid on the defensive side of the puck, that contract could be justified in full.

    Inconsistency and lack of defensive abilities are what hold the man back.

    And, no, I don’t consider him a stupid person.

  64. Brantford Boy says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Agreed…

  65. JOFA says:

    Lowetide: Dammit OP, we haven’t even had a chance to make an offer! Harsh!

    Haha?

  66. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lots think that coach is likely to start Kris Russell over Jones due to his veteran presence.

    Some argue that Jones passed Russell in 2020 but I think everyone can acknowledge Russell’s experience and that Tip likes experience.

    With Green out and Matt Benning being the every day 3RD without question, is there more consideration to using Jones to add the puck-moving to the 3rd pairing. Yes, even more experience is lost (both Green and Russell) in that lineup but we do know that Coach T. likes d-men that can move the puck out.

    Looking at the numbers:

    Russell/Benning has a very good goal percentage (76%) but it didn’t line up with their possession metrics which were below 50%.

    Jones/Benning also have a very good goals percentage (71%) which was more in line with very good possession metrics.

    https://www.naturalstattrick.com/linestats.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20192020&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&rate=y&team=EDM&vteam=ALL&view=wowy&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=2019-10-02&td=2020-04-04&tgp=2000&strict=incl&p1=8471729&p2=8476988&p3=0&p4=0&p5=0

    https://www.naturalstattrick.com/linestats.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20192020&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&rate=y&team=EDM&vteam=ALL&view=wowy&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=2019-10-02&td=2020-04-04&tgp=2000&strict=incl&p1=8478452&p2=8476988&p3=0&p4=0&p5=0

  67. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lowetide: Dammit OP, we haven’t even had a chance to make an offer! Harsh!

    Unfortunately, without a chance to view the player, I don’t have comfort in him replacing Benning as the every day 3RD next season – not based off of his age and body of work last season.

    I was hopeful to see him and his game on a team that wasn’t generationally bad like Detroit was last season.

  68. OriginalPouzar says:

    defmn:
    Elliotte Friedman
    @FriedgeHNIC
    ·
    27m
    Hearing that, from now on, NHL will be handling all injury updates in Phases 3 and 4

    Ya, the press release from the league references that teams are prohibited from disclosing any injury info.

    What is Matty going to ask in the Zoom calls?

    This is going to lead to rampant speculation if any player misses a skate, let alone a game.

  69. Harpers Hair says:

    OriginalPouzar: Boom – Green has opted out.

    So, BOUCHARD is only a heartbeat away from being an NHL player.

    You must be giddy as a school boy.

  70. OriginalPouzar says:

    defmn: Cult of Hockey is doing their top 20 at the moment. They have Rasanen at #19.

    https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/top-prospect-for-edmonton-oilers-third-line-centre-is-so-close-yet-so-far/

    He had a solid bounce-back year offensively at Boston College (team was a gong show the year before) but he did it on the wing as oppossed to his normal center position – a good arrow with a now so good arrow.

    Hopefully he has a solid season in Finland and earns himself a contract offer.

  71. Brantford Boy says:

    So Russell-Benning then right? No way they start Jones in my opinion…

  72. JOFA says:

    OriginalPouzar: Unfortunately, without a chance to view the player, I don’t have comfort in him replacing Benning as the every day 3RD next season – not based off of his age and body of work last season.

    I was hopeful to see him and his game on a team that wasn’t generationally bad like Detroit was last season.

    OP, you have to re-read the quote?

  73. Lowetide says:

    OriginalPouzar: Unfortunately, without a chance to view the player, I don’t have comfort in him replacing Benning as the every day 3RD next season – not based off of his age and body of work last season.

    I was hopeful to see him and his game on a team that wasn’t generationally bad like Detroit was last season.

    It hurts me that you didn’t get my joke. Sad trombone.

  74. OriginalPouzar says:

    JJ:
    If Jesse won’t join the team,

    is this equation solvable?

    Jesse Puljujarvi + X = Centre Jesperi Kotkaniemi + Y

    Jesperi is in a “needs to bounce back” place.

    I love Math.

    The X would have to be >>> the Y

  75. OriginalPouzar says:

    Pescador: Neal & Chaisson on the 4th line?
    It’s true then, Tippett reads this blog
    Smart coach

    I have been speculating about Neal and Chiasson on the 4th line with Khaira on this blog for a while but its based on the fact that line was together for 3 games to finish the year and, in his verbals over the last few months, Coach T. essentially raved about the line and Khaira in the middle.

    Its more “this blog listens to Coach T.”……

  76. Harpers Hair says:

    NHL News (@puck_report2) Tweeted:
    Boston Bruins defender Steven Kampfer is opting out of the return to play. #NHLBruins

  77. OriginalPouzar says:

    JOFA:
    Interesting. I hope he’s doing well. Thanks for the updates OP.

    I’m happy with Benning playing on the 3rd pairing, or do we see Jones slide over? There will definitely be injuries. Does the old man play a game?

    I’m all but certain that, if all others are healthy, Benning will start at 3RD – he’s a very good 3RD and, frankly, Jones has shown much better on his natural left side than when he’s played the right. Coach T. likes rightie/lefite and Jones is better on the left – as much right side as he’s played at the pro level, I think that is a last resort.

    Bouchard may be an injury away from the lineup (would be interesting if Tip/Playfair decide to put him in over moving either of Rusty or Jones to their off-side) – lets not forget the 9 game max or else we lose the ELC slide that’s in place.

  78. OriginalPouzar says:

    pts2pndr: Your usual intelligent comments are devalued by your myopic prejudiced comments re Kassian! Saying the same think over and over doesn’t make you right but does make it tedious!

    Hey – I thought that was my thing…….

  79. OriginalPouzar says:

    Harpers Hair: So, BOUCHARD is only a heartbeat away from being an NHL player.

    You must be giddy as a school boy.

    Nope – I hope not to see him in the lineup this season.

  80. godot10 says:

    Lowetide: Dammit OP, we haven’t even had a chance to make an offer! Harsh!

    If Green is not playing now, he is not going to play next season, when the health risks will likely be worse.

    The bubble will be less risky than any protocols they have next season.

  81. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lowetide: It hurts me that you didn’t get my joke. Sad trombone.

    Shit, hardy har…….

    Good thing attention to detail isn’t a huge part of my career…….

  82. leadfarmer says:

    OriginalPouzar: Shit, hardy har…….

    Good thing attention to detail isn’t a huge part of my career…….

    I thought your career isn’t allowed to be part of the discussion

  83. N64 says:

    Darren Dreger
    @DarrenDreger
    ·
    1h
    Postponed media avails in Toronto and Edmonton based on “detail” work with the Canadian government. Sources say the detail work being done is specific to travel and the Canadian government recognizing third party, league related event people, are considered essential workers.

    Dreger needs better sources. The border is NOT closed to non-essential workers. It’s closed to discretionary visitors. Most work is considered non-discretionary.

    The likely scenario is something about about quarantine eligibility.

  84. who says:

    OriginalPouzar: Unfortunately, without a chance to view the player, I don’t have comfort in him replacing Benning as the every day 3RD next season – not based off of his age and body of work last season.

    I was hopeful to see him and his game on a team that wasn’t generationally bad like Detroit was last season.

    Well shoot.
    How are the Oilers going to make a decision on him without you viewing him in the playoffs? ?

  85. Harpers Hair says:

    Lowetide: It hurts me that you didn’t get my joke. Sad trombone.

    Ready, fire, aim.

  86. OriginalPouzar says:

    who: Well shoot.
    How are the Oilers going to make a decision on him without you viewing him in the playoffs?

    Something you want to get off your chest or are you simply posting to deride me posting my thoughts on the subject?

    Of course, you read the following andintentionallyy ignored the use of “for me”, used twice, but have come on solely to be adversarial with me so have a great night:

    ORIGINALPOUZARsays:
    July 11, 2020 at 5:12 pm
    For me, the Green opt out kind of shuts the door on potentially re-signing me. Don’t get me wrong, that has NOTHING to do with his decision, its solely based on the fact that, for me, I needed to see him play more games before I was willing to have him replace Benning as the inumbrant 3RD.

    I wouldn’t feel comfortable moving Benning and re-signing a Mike Green that is turning 35 and coming off a poor season. I would need to see him have some success on the ice in a winning org first.

  87. OriginalPouzar says:

    Agghhhh, three adversarial natured posts in a row – the gang is all here on a Saturday night….

  88. OilClog says:

    Nah man, you’re just in need of some self care when you’re at the point of saying it’s everyone else.

    Mike Green comes back at a sweetheart price while being a veteran obstacle in the way of the youth pushing through, that’s perfect for a franchise looking to be constantly successful.

    But hey, yea it’s ganglife homie.

  89. NicaOil says:

    OP man what has happened to you….I use to love your brash, non censored color commentary…you are a number #1 true to your bones Edmonton Oilers fan, Gord Bless You. Don’t give in to the naysayers, smartest men in the room, hate that you love the team so much regulars. Give up your opinion guns a blazin’ and tell it likes you see it. Love you man!

  90. OriginalPouzar says:

    OilClog:
    Nah man, you’re just in need of some self care when you’re at the point of saying it’s everyone else.

    Mike Green comes back at a sweetheart price while being a veteran obstacle in the way of the youth pushing through, that’s perfect for a franchise looking to be constantly successful.

    But hey, yea it’s ganglife homie.

    Absolutely, I’ve been very adamant that there needs to be an incumbent at 3RD ahead of Bouchard going in to next season. Maybe I need to be more vocal in my opinions…..

    What I don’t expect is for Green to sign a sweetheart deal with the Oilers, I don’t expect him to sign with the Oilers for any less than Matt Benning will (apx $2M) and, as of now, I am much more comfortable with Benning as 3RD going in to next year. There hasn’t been a chance to see if Green’s year was a function of regression or simply a terrible team.

    I know, with utmost confidence, that Matt Benning can be a high end 3RD on the Oilers.

  91. Genjutsu says:

    OriginalPouzar: Absolutely, I’ve been very adamant that there needs to be an incumbent at 3RD ahead of Bouchard going in to next season.Maybe I need to be more vocal in my opinions…..

    What I don’t expect is for Green to sign a sweetheart deal with the Oilers, I don’t expect him to sign with the Oilers for any less than Matt Benning will (apx $2M) and, as of now, I am much more comfortable with Benning as 3RD going in to next year. There hasn’t been a chance to see if Green’s year was a function of regression or simply a terrible team.

    I know, with utmost confidence, that Matt Benning can be a high end 3RD on the Oilers.

    If Green has a condition that makes him vulnerable to COVID he’s likely not playing again until there is a vaccine or cure.

    Who knows when that will happen. This may be the end for him.

  92. Material Elvis says:

    Lowetide: Dammit OP, we haven’t even had a chance to make an offer! Harsh!

    Too bad. I hear he led the Jewish hockey league in scoring. Could have been a real asset…..

  93. Harpers Hair says:

    Genjutsu: If Green has a condition that makes him vulnerable to COVID he’s likely not playing again until there is a vaccine or cure.

    Who knows when that will happen. This may be the end for him.

    Some speculation on the interwebs that he’s not playing because the Oilers aren’t going to offer him a new contract.

  94. defmn says:

    Harpers Hair: Some speculation on the interwebs that he’s not playing because the Oilers aren’t going to offer him a new contract.

    That sounds like the usual milk of human kindness that we have all come to expect of anonymous interwebs gossip.

    They saying the same thing about Hamonic?

  95. N64 says:

    Harpers Hair: Some speculation on the interwebs that he’s not playing because the Oilers aren’t going to offer him a new contract.

    Speculation is offside. Good chance he needs to sit out next season ie. Retirement is an option. Tough timing.

    https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2019/03/08/mike-green-to-miss-remainder-of-season-due-to-virus/

  96. Munny says:

    Harpers Hair: Some speculation on the interwebs that he’s not playing because the Oilers aren’t going to offer him a new contract.

    Ahh, the interwebs… good, so we can eliminate contract as an actual possibility then.

  97. Genjutsu says:

    Harpers Hair: Some speculation on the interwebs that he’s not playing because the Oilers aren’t going to offer him a new contract.

    Well that might be smart on his part if that’s the case.

    His next contract may well be his last and if he gets a bad injury in the playoffs he may not have that option.

    You gotta make the right call for yourself and your family.

  98. OriginalPouzar says:

    Material Elvis: Too bad.I hear he led the Jewish hockey league in scoring.Could have been a real asset…..

    Only person in history (to my knowledge) to lead both the Edmonton and Calgary leagues in scoring (different years, of course).

  99. Scungilli Slushy says:

    OriginalPouzar: Only person in history (to my knowledge) to lead both the Edmonton and Calgary leagues in scoring (different years, of course).

    Are you talking about points scoring?

  100. OriginalPouzar says:

    Yup

  101. N64 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Yup

    ~ I hear we only care about 5 on 5 ~

  102. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Lowetide: They need a defensive forward on that line, a Kurri. McDavid’s fast breaks can lead to one quick chance and then jailbreak the other way. Oilers have to be stronger on the counter.

    Puljuvarvi I think is a natural for this job. He is naturally good at disrupting the counter attack as I see it.

    He plays like a C with his roaming style. teach him right side face offs, tell him he can be wing man for the best player in the world for a good chunk of his career.

    What else would a hockey loving player want? He’ll score 20+, ask him to take a reasonable salary. Assuming he’s fully healthy.

  103. Lowetide says:

    Scungilli Slushy: Puljuvarvi I think is a natural for this job. He is naturally good at disrupting the counter attack as I see it.

    He plays like a C with his roaming style. teach him right side face offs, tell him he can be wing man for the best player in the world for a good chunk of his career.

    What else would a hockey loving player want? He’ll score 20+, ask him to take a reasonable salary. Assuming he’s fully healthy.

    I think that’s a great progression for him, but he has to sign and earn the opportunity. I think he has that kind of potential for sure, not sure the line he’ll play on.

  104. Scungilli Slushy says:

    godot10: If Green is not playing now, he is not going to play next season, when the health risks will likely be worse.

    The bubble will be less risky than any protocols they have next season.

    A poor performance now will end his NHL career. Given his history that’s the risk, he’ll be too far back in skating,

    Sitting out means the last look at him fully up to speed as much as he can is his shingle out front.

    One million US dollars is a lot, and that is what he will at least get until he proves he’s done.

    I have no idea his plan, but that makes the most sense to me unless there are strong health concerns around covid. Which would be very unusual for a 35 YO according to multiple health experts anyone can find on the web.

  105. jp says:

    godot10: If Green is not playing now, he is not going to play next season, when the health risks will likely be worse.

    The bubble will be less risky than any protocols they have next season.

    I was thinking the same thing. Gotta think Green will continue sitting things out until there’s a vaccine. Given he’ll be 35 in a few months, Covid could be the end of Mike Green, as an NHLer.

  106. jp says:

    Scungilli Slushy: A poor performance now will end his NHL career. Given his history that’s the risk, he’ll be too far back in skating,

    Sitting out means the last look at him fully up to speed as much as he can is his shingle out front.

    One million US dollars is a lot, and that is what he will at least get until he proves he’s done.

    I have no idea his plan, but that makes the most sense to me unless there are strong health concerns around covid. Which would be very unusual for a 35 YO according to multiple health experts anyone can find on the web.

    He has some history with viral infection problems. I don’t know the details but seems it’s a health issue rather than believing he’ll hurt his next payday.

    I assume you’re also aware your take on the severity of Covid is fairly far to one side of the spectrum. Many (most, it’d think) believe there’s more risk than you seem to.

  107. jp says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Oilers penalty, #44, Zack Kassian. 2 minutes for not being #17, Jari Kurri. Time: immemorial.

    This is excellent.

  108. who says:

    OriginalPouzar: Only person in history (to my knowledge) to lead both the Edmonton and Calgary leagues in scoring (different years, of course).

    Okay. Maybe this is an inside joke that I missed.
    But I gotta ask 3 questions.
    Is there actually Jewish hockey leagues in Calgary and Edmonton?
    And are you actually bragging about leading them in scoring?
    And who the hell keeps scoring records in a rec league?

  109. jp says:

    godot10: Hey Zack! Know your job. Do your job.
    But he doesn’t know his job. And he is incompetent at doing his job.

    We can agree that Zack Kassian’s greatest strength isn’t as a defensive forward.

    But this is what happened with McDavid and Kassian on the ice this season:
    McDavid+Kassian 663min 42GF 35GA (3.8-3.2 /60) 54.6%GF
    McDavid no Kass- 392min 20GF 23GA (3.1-3.5 /60) 46.5%GF
    Kassian no McD— 207min 8GF—9GA (2.3-2.6 /60) 47.1%GF

    I’m not sure how Kassian deserves any flack for his work with McDavid.

  110. Scungilli Slushy says:

    jp: He has some history with viral infection problems. I don’t know the details but seems it’s a health issue rather than believing he’ll hurt his next payday.

    I assume you’re also aware your take on the severity of Covid is fairly far to one side of the spectrum. Many (most, it’d think) believe there’s more risk than you seem to.

    I think my take on Covid is accurate.

    An easily transmissible virus that is of serious consequence to few people. The issue being that the transmissibility can overwhelm hospitals.

    Places with low population density have less issues.

    Nothing has changed regarding this from the beginning of it.

    This is common knowledge freely available.

    I take it seriously and also reasonably. The media around this is in my opinion very unprofessional. But that’s what happens when old industries don’t see when change is coming, and so real investigative journalism is mostly gone.

  111. N64 says:

    jp: He has some history with viral infection problems. I don’t know the details but seems it’s a health issue rather than believing he’ll hurt his next payday

    When week 2 goes haywire it looks like an immunology issue followed by clotting in week 3. It’s about comorbidities as well as age and liver issues I think he’s smart to be concerned.

    https://www.theonion.com/teen-who-died-from-coronavirus-probably-had-undiagnosed-1844325600

  112. jp says:

    N64: When week 2 goes haywire it looks like an immunology issue followed by clotting in week 3. It’s about comorbidities as well as age and liver issues I think he’s smart to be concerned.

    https://www.theonion.com/teen-who-died-from-coronavirus-probably-had-undiagnosed-1844325600

    I guess you didn’t mean to quote The Onion??

    But yeah without knowing Green’s exact issues and comorbidities, the fact his body had major trouble fighting off a previous viral infection is absolutely reason for concern.

  113. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Lowetide: I think that’s a great progression for him, but he has to sign and earn the opportunity. I think he has that kind of potential for sure, not sure the line he’ll play on.

    Yes I was projecting for him. He’s an interesting kid. I don’t feel he has the mindset for the NHL. As you likely remember from my comments around him.

    But he sure has the tool kit for it.

  114. Jaxon says:

    I’m kinda hoping Benson gets into action and they put him on a line with Neal. Not sure who the C would be. Haas’ speed, Khaira’s size, or Sheahan’s experience? I’d like to see what Benson could do with a real scorer.

  115. Reja says:

    Harpers Hair: Some speculation on the interwebs that he’s not playing because the Oilers aren’t going to offer him a new contract.

    I could see that why play with all the bubble conditions and having no contract. It’s not like he’s hurting for cash. I bet he signs with Stevie Y. Let it be said. Let it be written. Book it.

  116. Reja says:

    If the Oilers have a long run in the playoffs it wouldn’t surprise me if Bouchard gets his shot and racks up the points like the magnet that he is. It’s easy just hit Mcdavid while he’s on the fly and QB the PP like Larry Murphy it’ll throw a twist into Chicago’s strategy. I’m sure they been viewing non stop and have a master plan to stop the No 1 PP.

  117. jp says:

    Scungilli Slushy:
    I think my take on Covid is accurate.

    An easily transmissible virus that is of serious consequence to few people. The issue being that the transmissibility can overwhelm hospitals.

    Places with low population density have less issues.

    Nothing has changed regarding this from the beginning of it.

    This is common knowledge freely available.

    I take it seriously and also reasonably. The media around this is in my opinion very unprofessional. But that’s what happens when old industries don’t see when change is coming, and so real investigative journalism is mostly gone.

    It’s clear you think your take is accurate.

    Honesty, I generally agree with what you’ve said here. But you essentially said in your previous comment there is no risk for a 35 year old. That’s not the opinion of the majority of experts.

    And you said the other day it’s pointless to wear any mask unless it’s a respirator. That’s plain wrong.

    You’re choosing the experts you listen to (as we all do). I guess it’s just the confidence you have in your group of experts that surprises me.

  118. Side says:

    jp: It’s clear you think your take is accurate.

    Honesty, I generally agree with what you’ve said here. But you essentially said in your previous comment there is no risk for a 35 year old. That’s not the opinion of the majority of experts.

    And you said the other day it’s pointless to wear any mask unless it’s a respirator. That’s plain wrong.

    You’re choosing the experts you listen to (as we all do). I guess it’s just the confidence you have in your group of experts that surprises me.

    I was hoping he was kidding about masks being pointless.

    I have no clue how anyone could think such a thing, especially now.

    Speaking of 35ish year olds and COVID

    https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,pg_1,q_80,w_800/cnhhejxegsaz5umhsmai.jpg

  119. JimmyV1965 says:

    jp: It’s clear you think your take is accurate.

    Honesty, I generally agree with what you’ve said here. But you essentially said in your previous comment there is no risk for a 35 year old. That’s not the opinion of the majority of experts.

    And you said the other day it’s pointless to wear any mask unless it’s a respirator. That’s plain wrong.

    You’re choosing the experts you listen to (as we all do). I guess it’s just the confidence you have in your group of experts that surprises me.

    The risk of serious health threats for people under 35 with no underlying health conditions is still low. There is a risk, but it’s low. They can still catch the virus of course and masks reduce the likelihood of that happening. It’s interesting that with all the new cases being reported in the States, the number of deaths is still much lower than it was in March and April. More testing of course and probably more young people contracting the virus.

  120. hunter1909 says:

    If there are any of you reading this who feel like they might like to start a physical fitness stint, now might be the best possible time with the pandemic circling overhead of everyone like vultures.

    The virus, like all viruses needs to invade, set up camp then multiply; but a physically fit person should have a superior immune system to counterattack.

    Too bad about Mike Green.

  121. Pescador says:

    leadfarmer: Really need AA to be a top 6 quality forward on that 3rd line.

    This post truly is more than the sum of its parts.
    So much focus is always on the 3C when discussing the soft parade, especially during the playoffs.
    It is possible for the wingers to be the drivers.
    Quick someone get P.C. on the horn!
    Oilers finally have a lineup that resembles depth,
    Feels weird

  122. Pescador says:

    Pescador:

    So much focus is always on the 3C when discussing the soft parade,

    Unless of course the debate is about Yakupov or Puljujarvi

  123. N64 says:

    jp: guess you didn’t mean to quote The Onion??

    Sorry You guessed wrong

    Humor has a sharp edge
    Not cool to dismiss due to age or comorbidities

  124. N64 says:

    jp: I guess you didn’t mean to quote The Onion??

    But yeah without knowing Green’s exact issues and comorbidities, the fact his body had major trouble fighting off a previous viral infection is absolutely reason for concern.

    Liver infection issues over that span
    In a disease with crazy blood clotting

  125. jp says:

    N64:
    Sorry You guessed wrong

    Humor has a sharp edge
    Not cool to dismiss due to age or comorbidities

    N64:
    Liver infection issues over that span
    In a disease with crazy blood clotting

    Should have read. Yup, there is some reason for concern even among the young and healthy.

    And yeah Green appears to have a really good reason for sitting this thing out.

  126. jp says:

    JimmyV1965: The risk of serious health threats for people under 35 with no underlying health conditions is still low. There is a risk, but it’s low. They can still catch the virus of course and masks reduce the likelihood of that happening.It’s interesting that with all the new cases being reported in the States, the number of deaths is still much lower than it was in March and April. More testing of course and probably more young people contracting the virus.

    I agree it’s low, but not none. Something like 3% of people in their 30s are ending up hospitalized too, even if they aren’t dying.

    Yeah current deaths remain much lower than they were. They are rising though in the past week. A bit of a lag between infections, then cases, then deaths. I imagine they’ll climb more but not sure how much.

    Anyway, I do agree that more testing and a bias towards younger people getting infected (and also some better treatment options emerging for those in hospital) have most likely resulted in an actually lower death rate.

  127. OriginalPouzar says:

    who: Okay. Maybe this is an inside joke that I missed.
    But I gotta ask 3 questions.
    Is there actually Jewish hockey leagues in Calgary and Edmonton?
    And are you actually bragging about leading them in scoring?
    And who the hell keeps scoring records in arec league?

    1) Yes and Yes.
    2) Joking about it – lighthearted.
    3) Lots of rec leagues keeps stats – We used to have “awards nights” with trophies in the Edmonton league – it was a community event.

  128. OriginalPouzar says:

    Reja:
    If the Oilers have a long run in the playoffs it wouldn’t surprise me if Bouchardgets his shot and racks up the points like the magnet that he is. It’s easy just hit Mcdavid while he’s on the fly and QB the PP likeLarry Murphy it’llthrow a twist into Chicago’s strategy.I’m sure they been viewing non stop and have a masterplan to stop the No 1 PP.

    Well, with Green not joining, the chances of Bouchard playing rise as he is 4th on the right side option.

    It would/will be interesting to see what Coaches Tippett and Playfair do if/when there is an injury to Bear, Larsson or Benning – will they flip one of Rusty or Jones over to play 3RD or give that opportunity to Bouchard?

    I’m OK if Bouch plays a few games but I do think they need to be cognizant of the 10 game threshold – I’m generally not concerned about burning a year of a players’s ELC – its often beneficial vis-a-vis the 2nd contract but, in this case, with the Oilers cap situation, I’m very much looking forward to 3 years of Bouchard on his ELC – cap hit under $1M (well, bonuses could take it to $1.6M).

    As far as his deployment, I would assume he would be VERY sheltered and would see zero PP1 time and likely very little, if any, PP2 time.

    Lets not forget, Ethan Bear was a great PP player in the CHL, like Bouchard, and he only got leftovers on the 2nd pairing this year.

    I anticipate that Bear gets more PP1 time next year (decrease in Klef’s minutes) and Bouchard, when in the NHL, takes on the leftovers ala Bear this year.

    Jones is also in the mix – he played PP1 over the likes of Bouchard at times in the AHL.

  129. who says:

    OriginalPouzar: 1) Yes and Yes.
    2) Joking about it – lighthearted.
    3) Lots of rec leagues keeps stats – We used to have “awards nights” with trophies in the Edmonton league – it was a community event.

    Okay. I honestly wasn’t sure if you were kidding or not.
    My point is, that telling us about your exploits in a rec league isn’t going to validate your opinions with most posters on this blog. At least not the ones who played hockey at a higher level than the Jewish rec leagues.
    You must know this? Right?

  130. N64 says:

    jp: A bit of a lag between infections, then cases, then deaths.

    Lag matters a lot with recent case doublings. And a dramatic expansion in one age cohort does not end there. So add a lag for the young to pass it along to older in their lives just to get to the main lag to death. Better treatment may have reduced death rates somewhat but you can only say that with age specific stats

  131. JimmyV1965 says:

    N64: Lag matters a lot with recent case doublings.And a dramatic expansion in one age cohort does not end there. So add a lag for the young to pass it along to older in their lives just to get to the main lag to death. Better treatment may have reduced death rates somewhat but you can only say that with age specific stats

    Yes. They are expecting the number of deaths to jump soon because of the lag. They’re not expecting April numbers though. Not to say any deaths are meaningless. They are all important.

  132. OriginalPouzar says:

    Oilers release their training camp roster.

    Jones is indeed on it.

    Granlund is not.

    Interesting to see Wells and no Starrett. I wonder if he’s not healthy still

    https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/release-oilers-announce-phase-3-training-camp-roster/c-317386884

    Goaltenders (5): Mikko Koskinen (Vantaa, FIN), Olivier Rodrigue (Chicoutimi, QC), Stuart Skinner (Edmonton, AB), Mike Smith (Kingston, ON), Dylan Wells (St. Catharines, ON)

    Defencemen (10): Ethan Bear (Ochapiwace, SK), Matt Benning (St. Albert, AB), Evan Bouchard (Oakville, ON), Philip Broberg (Orebro, SWE), Caleb Jones (Arlington, TX), Oscar Klefbom (Karlstad, SWE), William Lagesson (Gothenburg, SWE), Adam Larsson (Skelleftea, SWE), Darnell Nurse (Hamilton, ON), Kris Russell (Caroline, AB)

    Forwards (18): Josh Archibald (Brainerd, MN), Andreas Athanasiou (Woodbridge, ON), Tyler Benson (Edmonton, AB), Alex Chiasson (Saint-Augustin-de-Desmaures, QC), Leon Draisaitl (Cologne, GER), Gaetan Haas (Bonfol, SUI), Tyler Ennis (Edmonton, AB), Zack Kassian (Windsor, ON), Jujhar Khaira (Surrey, BC), Cooper Marody (Brighton, MI), Connor McDavid (Newmarket, ON), Ryan McLeod (Mississauga, ON), James Neal (Whitby, ON), Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (Burnaby, BC), Joakim Nygard (Stockholm, SWE), Patrick Russell (Holte, DEN), Riley Sheahan (St. Catharines, ON), Kailer Yamamoto (Spokane, WA)

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