A decade of AHL rookie centers

by Lowetide

How close to NHL ready is Ryan McLeod? How does he compare to the last center who successfully came through the minor league system? WHO WAS the last center to successfully come through the minor league system?

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ROOKIE CENTERS AHL EV SCORING 2010-20

  1. Cooper Marody (Age 21) 2018-19: 58, 15-30-45 [.776]
  2. Mark Arcobello (Age 22) 2010-11: 26, 7-8-15 [.577]
  3. Marco Roy (Age 20) 2015-16: 42, 7-10-17 [.405]
  4. Bogdan Yakimov (Age 20) 2014-15: 57, 9-14-23 [.404]
  5. Ryan McLeod (Age 20) 2019-20: 56, 5-13-18 [.321]
  6. Milan Kytnar (Age 21) 2010-11: 78, 12-11-23 [.295]
  7. Tanner House (Age 21) 2011-12: 68, 8-12-20 [.294]
  8. Ryan Martindale (Age 20) 2012-13: 41, 4-8-12 [.293]
  9. Tyler Vesel (Age 24) 2018-19: 61, 5-11-16 [.262]
  10. Kyle Platzer (Age 20) 2015-16: 48, 3-8-11 [.229]
  11. Jujhar Khaira (Age 20) 2014-15: 51, 4-6-10 [.196]
  12. Chris VandeVelde (Age 23) 2010-11: 67, 9-4-13 [.194]
  13. Travis Ewanyk (Age 20) 2013-14: 68, 7-5-12 [.176]

Just over one per year over the decade, the most in a single season was three in 2010-11. The best center at 20 was Marco Roy, the player who received just an AHL deal inexplicably. No disrespect to Travis Ewanyk, but that’s craziness.

Marody is a fascinating prospect, he ran under the radar for most of 2019-20 but then showed up and made some nice plays during the scrimmages at summer camp.

McLeod delivered pretty well on a team that didn’t have a lot of offensive weapons. Is that enough offense to project him as an NHL player? Considering Khaira and VandeVelde played in the NHL, I’d suggest the answer is yes. Third line center? He can probably cover the defensive aspects but he’ll also likely need a more talented linemate.

BROBERG

Swedish Poster: “Philip Broberg on what looks like the top pairing with veteran Niclas Burström ahead of tomorrow’s first exhibition game for Skellefteå, he should certainly be within the top 4 5v5. Will be interesting to see where he slots in on special teams, since he arrived late I assume he has some catching up to do before getting PP time but he should be on the PK a fair bit.”

The Covid-19 worry is always with us, so we begin every conversation about hockey players with a prayer for safe passage through the day. This is a big season for Broberg. At the point in development, draft+2, Oscar Klefbom’s SHL time on ice spiked from 13:44 to 17:28. Last season, Broberg averaged 13:59 per game, a shade more than Klefbom. Will he play more than 17:28 in 2019-20?

WHO IS CLOSEST TO NHL READY?

I got an email yesterday, discussing the most NHL ready Oilers. For me, that’s an easy answer to find because Ken Holland just told us during the series against Chicago. In the final game, Edmonton’s healthy scratches included Stuart Skinner, Evan Bouchard, Philip Broberg, William Lagesson, Tyler Benson, Cooper Marody, Ryan McLeod. Players who would have (imo) been included if all prospects were available are Theodor Lennstrom, Filip Berglund, Ilya Konovalov and Jesse Puljujarvi.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, TSN1260, we have a great lineup of guests. Bruce McCurdy from Cult of Hockey at the Edmonton Journal joins us to talk Dale Hawerchuk, Oilers wingers having an impact, and Rask leaves the bubble. Joe Osborne from OddsShark arrives at 11 to talk NHL and NBA playoffs. 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. See you on the radio!

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godot10

OriginalPouzar:
Lavoie is heading to the SHL to play for Rogle.

That is great news – just great that he has a place to play.

Unfortunate part is that he is planning on spending the year there and not coming back when NHL camps start up (maybe not knowing if that means there will be a concurrent AHL season).

With Sammy staying in Russia for the year, if there is an AHL season, the Condors might be thin.

If there is an AHL, teams will pair up. Or have joint taxi squads play games against each other.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Jaxon,

I’ve posted a list not dissimilar to rebut the DSF pearl of elite D showing themselves early, to no avail. It’s a flimsy narrative he brandishes like a broadsword because it whips people up into a frothy mess. Same as ever.

OriginalPouzar

Lavoie is heading to the SHL to play for Rogle.

That is great news – just great that he has a place to play.

Unfortunate part is that he is planning on spending the year there and not coming back when NHL camps start up (maybe not knowing if that means there will be a concurrent AHL season).

With Sammy staying in Russia for the year, if there is an AHL season, the Condors might be thin.

Jaxon

Harpers Hair: OriginalPouzar: Connor Timmons cited as a draft success yet he was drafted before, and played less games, than the disappointing Evan Bouchard who is taking his sweet sweet time to arrive.

Bouchard was a top 10 pick while Timmins was a second round pick who missed an entire season due to injury but came back with 27 points in 40 games in the AHL.

Colorado walks away with Makar and Timmins while Bouchard, according to you, is not ready for a third pairing role on the Oilers.

I think I’ll go with the Colorado pair, thanks very much.

I”m not even sure what is sarcasm in this thread but here goes:

When D arrived in the NHL and played 41 games or more:
Zdeno Chara D+3
Duncan Keith D+4
Ryan Suter D+3
Shea Weber D+4
Brent Burns D+3
Dustin Byfuglien D+5
Mark Giordano D+5ish? undrafted
Jack Johnson D+3
Kris Letang D+3
Marc Staal D+3
Keith Yandle D+3
Ryan McDonagh D+5
Kevin Shattenkirk D+4
PK Subban D+4
Alex Pietrangelo D+3
Jake Gardiner D+4
Roman Josi D+4
John Carlson D+3
Ryan Ellis D+5
Torey Krug D+5 undrafted
Matt Dumba D+3
Josh Morrisey D+4
Ryan Pulock D+5
Thomas Chabot D+3
Dante Fabbro D+4
Cale Makar D+3
Henri Jokiharju D+3

I think this might be a good year (D+3) for Bouchard to play 41 games. He’s still in good company.

jp

Harpers Hair: Dahlin
Hughes
Heiskanen
Makar
MacEvoy
Provorov
Ekblad

Last five years.

That’s 6 years.

And 3 of the guys you mention PKed less than 10 minutes this year.

So 4 #1D in 6 years? Sounds fair.

The others may or may not become #1D at some point.

Justthestatsman

Anyone have any thoughts as to who might draw in on D if Edler can’t go for game 6…

Harpers Hair

jp: Who’s drafted a #1D recently. Not many teams.

Dahlin
Hughes
Heiskanen
Makar
MacEvoy
Provorov
Ekblad

Last five years.

jp

Harpers Hair: The Oilers have had 20 years to draft a #1D and haven’t done it.

Go figure.

Who’s drafted a #1D recently. Not many teams.

Bag of Pucks

Harpers Hair: The Oilers have had 20 years to draft a #1D and haven’t done it.

Go figure.

If they were only analytics driven, they could blame the number crunchers telling them you never draft D with a lottery pick.

#ForwardsOnly

WORST. MEME. EVER.

Harpers Hair

Material Elvis:
The Oilers should have drafted Heiskenen.You just can’t recover from those kind of mistakes.

The Oilers have had 20 years to draft a #1D and haven’t done it.

Go figure.

Bag of Pucks

Material Elvis: It’s a carbon thing….

Better to stay neutral? Got ya.

Bag of Pucks

Sorry, 3 in the 2nd for VAN. No edit button!

Bag of Pucks

Material Elvis: Doesn’t sound like his shoulder is healed.Probably going to miss the rest of the playoffs.

4 past Allen in the 2nd. Doubt Berube will do it, but I’d go with Binnington in the 3rd.

Material Elvis

Bag of Pucks:
Some credit to Craig Berube.

Once he made the switch to Jake Allen, his whole team took it up a notch.

They need Tarasenko back though for a realistic shot at defending their title imo.

Doesn’t sound like his shoulder is healed. Probably going to miss the rest of the playoffs.

Material Elvis

Bag of Pucks: Too much hot air?

It’s a carbon thing….

Material Elvis

The Oilers should have drafted Heiskenen. You just can’t recover from those kind of mistakes.

Bag of Pucks

Man, has there ever been a LOT of short side goals this playoffs.

Goalies are cheating for the pass across and getting BURNT.

Reilly & Bergeron with two today from behind the net!

Bag of Pucks

Souray. Penner. Ference. Jultz. Lucic. Russel. Kassian

Oiler fans not happy unless they have a whipping boy…

Harpers Hair

OriginalPouzar:
Almost 22 and hasn’t arrived….

I know!

Bouchard better step up his game.

Top 10 picks can’t be allowed to dawdle.

Bag of Pucks

Some credit to Craig Berube.

Once he made the switch to Jake Allen, his whole team took it up a notch.

They need Tarasenko back though for a realistic shot at defending their title imo.

Justthestatsman

GordieHoweHatTrick:
Jordie Benn pulled a KRusty!

Ha! I wasn’t even watching the game and knew exactly what you meant. He even wears the same number for good measure.

GordieHoweHatTrick

jp: Yes that’s definitely fair.

The main points I was trying to make were
1) The numbers don’t bear out Kassian being a terrible penalty killer
2) Nuge had horrible numbers part of the same awful Oilers PK unit that Kassian played on. Nuge’s results improved markedly under the new coach so we don’t know what Kassian would look like as a penalty killer in 2020/2021.

Maybe for a few million more per year he will be more willing to block shots and get in lanes too

Bag of Pucks

Lowetide:
I respectfully request that would put the politics and general lunacy away for today. Thanks.

Too much hot air?

GordieHoweHatTrick

Jordie Benn pulled a KRusty!

jp

Jaxon: I’ve been looking at a lot of articles listing the top goalie prospects outside the NHL and while Konovalov (and probably Rodrigue)has the most promise in the Oilers’ system he isn’t even in the top 32 prospects on any lists I’ve read. And he’s a long way off of being a safe bet to make it. He doesn’t have the NHL size of most goalies and he had a bit of a down year. I really liked him as a draft pick, though and hope like hell he’ll make it.

Agreed. He’s young and starting in the KHL. Up arrow.

But he was one of the worse goalies in the league this season by SV%. Down arrow.

A decent prospect, no question, but far far from a sure thing.

jp

Munny:
Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual,

Thank you.Anderson must be doing something right lol.

We need to keep in mind he missed a lot of time recently and that’s a smaller sample size than say Archie’s.

Anderson was 149th in 187 players making your 150 min cutoff.Archie has about 75 mins more TOI in essentially the same number of games played, both lag RNH in both departments.Something going on with usage there.

Still. Looks damn good.

Are we after a 1/2RW?I mean yes we’re always looking to improve everywhere all da time, but isn’t our focus a little–errrr–constrained this off-season?

His boxcars kinda look like AAs. Except he has the injury excuse this year.

OriginalPouzar

Almost 22 and hasn’t arrived….

jp

OriginalPouzar: Good info but I would like to add some likely context that Kassian would have been on PK2 (or 3) facing more PP2 whereas Nuge was a primary PK1 guy likely facing PP1 almost every time.

Yes that’s definitely fair.

The main points I was trying to make were
1) The numbers don’t bear out Kassian being a terrible penalty killer
2) Nuge had horrible numbers part of the same awful Oilers PK unit that Kassian played on. Nuge’s results improved markedly under the new coach so we don’t know what Kassian would look like as a penalty killer in 2020/2021.

Harpers Hair

OriginalPouzar: Connor Timmons cited as a draft success yet he was drafted before, and played less games, than the disappointing Evan Bouchard who is taking his sweet sweet time to arrive.

Bouchard was a top 10 pick while Timmins was a second round pick who missed an entire season due to injury but came back with 27 points in 40 games in the AHL.

Colorado walks away with Makar and Timmins while Bouchard, according to you, is not ready for a third pairing role on the Oilers.

I think I’ll go with the Colorado pair, thanks very much.

leadfarmer

Harpers Hair: I did too.

Placed a Woodguy on them at 12-1.

Then bet another Woodguy on them before the playoffs started at 8-1.

Oh my.

I hope you have some extra fingers you don’t need to give the bookies in case they don’t win given your history of not paying your losses

leadfarmer

Harpers Hair: I did too.

Placed a Woodguy on them at 12-1.

Then bet another Woodguy on them before the playoffs started at 8-1.

Oh my.

We’re all happy to see one of the 26 teams you have picked to win the cup over the course of this season is still in the chase

Harpers Hair

OriginalPouzar: I picked them as my preseason Cup favorite.

I did too.

Placed a Woodguy on them at 12-1.

Then bet another Woodguy on them before the playoffs started at 8-1.

Oh my.

OriginalPouzar

leadfarmer: Jost??

Connor Timmons cited as a draft success yet he was drafted before, and played less games, than the disappointing Evan Bouchard who is taking his sweet sweet time to arrive.

Harpers Hair

leadfarmer: I could only imagine your trolling if the oilers drafted him 10th overall

I can only imagine your pearl clutching if the players drafted 6 spots higher in the same draft was an NHL player.

But he isn’t and odds are he will never be.

OriginalPouzar

GordieHoweHatTrick: That was GREAT!
Thx for doing that and sharing…

Pretty sure Sheahan isn’t going to be re-signed, unless desperation.
I am willing to trade a bit of overall PK performance Decline for improved 5v5.
If JP doesn’t want to come back, a package trade could be good.
A few other interesting option with this PK info. Cool.

I can’t imagine Sheahan being re-signed at this point.

I think his PK minutes will be taken up by a Haas/Yamamoto combo.

OriginalPouzar

Ice Sage:
Material Elvis,

They did have a shot at Landeskog…
I think HH has finally found a ship that sails… I mean who saw the Avalanche being good this year?

I picked them as my preseason Cup favorite.

leadfarmer

Harpers Hair: *did not score today…must have been changed*

I could only imagine your trolling if the oilers drafted him 10th overall

Munny

Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual: Not sure if Columbus would care for an AA for Anderson trade, but I’ve seen that raised around here.

Unless KRusty has been traded or Neal bought out, why would they worry? Be no pressure to do something.

i think Kassian is a more likely piece to go, and one I’ve been thinking about since Reja raised it several days ago.

Munny

Munny: In the short and spotty temperature record of the State of California, there are 5 years that are hotter than it has been over the past several days in that State.

Apologies my 0 button failed me. that’s FIFTY years that have been hotter.

Munny

For those curious about History, the record temp for Cali is 115F set twice… once in 1931 and again in 1933.

In the short and spotty temperature record of the State of California, there are 5 years that are hotter than it has been over the past several days in that State.

So you can see why no one in government could foresee this electrical demand coming.

Jaxon

OriginalPouzar: cowboy bill:
Wouldn’t it be tremendous if Ilya Konovalov could come over next season and backup Koskinen capably .

Unfortunately, with the lack of a transfer agreement, this isn’t possible. One more year left on his KHL contract then, hopefully, he signs with the Oilers.

I’ve got optimism with this prospect but its hard to anoint him as NHL-ready at this point, even if he was available to the team.

I’ve been looking at a lot of articles listing the top goalie prospects outside the NHL and while Konovalov (and probably Rodrigue)has the most promise in the Oilers’ system he isn’t even in the top 32 prospects on any lists I’ve read. And he’s a long way off of being a safe bet to make it. He doesn’t have the NHL size of most goalies and he had a bit of a down year. I really liked him as a draft pick, though and hope like hell he’ll make it.

Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual

Munny,

I agree our focus should be on the bottom-6, but if an option comes up that isn’t too cost prohibitive, I still consider it. Neither Anderson or Gourde would cost crazy amounts in trade (although Gourde’s cap hit would be a tad high). Not sure if Columbus would care for an AA for Anderson trade, but I’ve seen that raised around here.

Harpers Hair

Harpers Hair: 22 year old 3C who scored a goal today.

On an ELC.

Think the Oilers could use him?

*did not score today…must have been changed*

Munny

Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual,

Thank you. Anderson must be doing something right lol.

We need to keep in mind he missed a lot of time recently and that’s a smaller sample size than say Archie’s.

Anderson was 149th in 187 players making your 150 min cutoff. Archie has about 75 mins more TOI in essentially the same number of games played, both lag RNH in both departments. Something going on with usage there.

Still. Looks damn good.

Are we after a 1/2RW? I mean yes we’re always looking to improve everywhere all da time, but isn’t our focus a little–errrr–constrained this off-season?

godot10

LT’s got my rant locked up in moderation.

I’ll edit it down to the hashtag version
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Harpers Hair

leadfarmer: Jost??

22 year old 3C who scored a goal today.

On an ELC.

Think the Oilers could use him?

Material Elvis

Material Elvis,

*won*. *won* the conference title.