Game 5 2023-24: Jets at Oilers

by Lowetide

The Edmonton Oilers are not impressing anyone these days. A 1-3-0 start has the team firmly ensconced in the second division of the Western Conference and it’ll take a month of Sundays (good Sundays!) to move up the standings. How did things get this way? Will the new lines make things better?

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WHAT TO EXPECT IN OCTOBER

  • On the road to: VAN (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • At home to: VAN (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: NAS, PHIL (Expected 2-0-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • At home to: WPG (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: MIN (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: NYR, CAL (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 6-2-0, 12 points in 8 games
  • Actual October results: 1-3-0, 2 points in 4 games
  • Oilers in 2023-24: 1-3-0, 2 points in 4 games

I’m disappointed in Jay Woodcroft, but still believe he’s a good coach. I think the Oilers now have become similar to the team in the Craig MacTavish era. MacT eschewed young players, especially high draft picks, and preferred more mature rookies (Shawn Horcoff, Dan Lacouture, Fernando Pisani, Jason Chimera had to wait a couple of years) in the years before the Sam Gagner rebuild (1.0) began. He did play kids out of the box (Mike Comrie, Ales Hemsky) but they were exceptional talents.

When Woodcroft got to town, he went to town increasing the talent pool by playing youths. Since his arrival, rookies who have played for him include Ryan McLeod, Stuart Skinner, Philip Broberg, Dylan Holloway, Vincent Desharnais, Markus Niemelainen and James Hamblin.

That’s some good talent. Skinner was a finalist for the Calder Trophy, McLeod is coming into his own as as No. 3 center (that’s a key role) and I do think Broberg and Holloway will have solid if unspectacular careers.

Woodcroft HS’d Broberg for the Philly game and has Dylan Holloway in the middle on the fourth line as of yesterday’s practice.

  • Hyman-McDavid-Draisaitl
  • Janmark-RNH-Foegele
  • Kane-McLeod-Brown
  • Erne-Holloway-Ryan
  • Nurse-Ceci
  • Ekholm-Bouchard
  • Kulak-Desharnais/Broberg
  • Skinner (Campbell)

Holloway on the fourth line is outrageous based on his first games. I understand the idea of moving Kane down the depth chart, he has struggled. However, elevating Mattias Janmark (and I do like Janmark as a two-way winger) over Holloway is a MacT move for sure. Holloway and McLeod with Brown hasn’t scored, but Brown is still finding his legs and adding Kane to the trio isn’t going to help based on recent results.

I don’t know for sure, but it’s possible Woodcroft’s decision making has been altered by the struggles against Vegas. He’s being too careful now. I don’t think he’s playing a winning hand with this lineup. Edmonton can win tonight, but the coach’s decisions on deployment are not optimal. Jay Woodcroft is on the highway to the danger zone.

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McSorley33

I am going to guess we are headed into the ‘ moral victory ‘ phase of Oilers fandom…..

OriginalPouzar

“Didn’t appear to be anything…. it appeared to be more musculare to me. We’ll see, I’ll have more information tomorrow.” – Woody on McDavid

Ryan

Connor Brown had a night. 1.13 xgf%.

5 games. O points. Minus 4.

Interesting to see if his GP bonus vests

Harpers Hair

The Oilers would be prudent if they demoted him before that bonus vests if his performance doesn’t improve.

He’s been all but invisible.

OriginalPouzar

It almost certainly will.

meanashell11

This may be true, but he should be demoted. He’s got nothing. Go to Bakersfield and see if he can find his game.

godot10

The coach is at fault for overplaying McDavid and Draisaitl. No pop or energy left for overtime. Play more more players, and get contributionis from more players.

And if a player is clearly gasaed from too mluch ice time, why is the coach putting him out there in overtime.

Last edited 1 year ago by godot10
813.52Ran

Hindsight is great.
Do you play to win, or play to get to overtime?

Ryan
DevilsLettuce

Skinner played well, other team had the better mostly goalie still. What can ya do.

Boil-in-the-Oil

Agreed … until that 2nd goal … that one was a stinker. We had a lot of good chances, just couldn’t find the back of the net, no thanks to Helle.

Decidedly Skeptical Fan

Let’s look on the bright side … we are in the drivers seat for the #1 overall pick in the upcoming draft.

teddyturnbuckle

Oilers 1st round pick has never been better.

flea

Bieksa speculates hip pointer for McDavid and says him pulling out is a sign of maturity.

hopefully it’s nothing major.

Last edited 1 year ago by flea
Oil2Oilers

PANIC, I am not panicking. Not panicking at all. McDavid was just giving the Jets a chance he’s not injured.

danny

I don’t want to sound overly critical of Leon, he’s a generational talent, but his lethargic demeanor on the ice looks exceptionally bad there as Scheiffele just out energies him to be wide open in front.

Ryan

In fairness, Leon played nine seconds more than Darnel Nurse.

23:40 is a lot of minutes for a forward.

OriginalPouzar

I think 3 of that was in OT – he was just over 20 minutes at the end of regulation – kind of the right amount, really.

Sierra

Jets used that exact same play the shift before and soft as butter Bouchard went with his man to the net but did absolutely nothing to disrupt the Jet. It’s a structured play of the Jets that the Oilers could not defend.

Last edited 1 year ago by Sierra
teddyturnbuckle

Skinner played well except for the give away. Nuge had a great game. Draisaitl did not.

Ice Sage

slip sliding away
lucy’s pulling the football

flea

I think the story you’re looking for is chicken little.

thelongdark

Vegas 6-0.

winchester

Are you trying to purposefully antagonize?

Genjutsu

. . . If you have to ask the question.

Benign Bone

Scheifele schooled Drai when slipping that coverage. Perfect path to escape and open the opportunity for that tip-in. Solid game by EDM that was turned into a loss on the back of that Skinner error.

McSorley33

Unsure how difficult the task is to slip Leon’s D coverage…..was certainly a great goal by the Jets.

doritogrande

The Edmonton Oilers. A team in the NHL.

dsr29

Embarrassing OT for Drai

fishman

We got goalied again.

fishman

Skinner actually played well except for the short handed goal.

Yukon Jerk

That’s all it takes to get “goalied” & lose

Sierra

Skinner rocked .889 and I believe it was much lower after the brutal 2nd goal.

flea

Whatever happens in OT, I think it’s a good result for the oilers. Shame about the Skinner brain fart but he was excellent otherwise. Showing improvement in his hands.

I hope McDavids ok!

flea

3v3 is fun but a random game state. They had their chances. Shame cause Skinner played great.

OriginalPouzar

McDavid being hurt is less than ideal – wonder if this is new or if he’s been dealing with some hand, wrist, arm thing all year given his poor puckhandling on the season?

Bank Shot

Looks like a hip to me.

OriginalPouzar

That was an inch from being too many men on the Oilers – lucky.

dsr29

McLeod and Kane have not been good tonight.

flea

I liked McLeod tonight, I’ll be interested to see the stats after.

OriginalPouzar

Skinner saves Kane’s ass (with some luck on the Ehlers’ bobble).

jp

Not much, but that’s a nice pass by Brown there.

teddyturnbuckle

Wow did you see how fast Broberg got to that puck behind the net?

OriginalPouzar

Bourgault buries a rebound off a Dineen point shot with about 20 seconds left but its not enough as the Condors drop the game, 3-2.

danny

Leon is a turnover machine

Admiral Ackbar

This team just isn’t scary with Leon & McD on the same line….

doritogrande

What happens when the nuclear option fails to work?

Admiral Ackbar

They’re playing like the team that was swept by Jets. Woof…

It’s like they’re hungover every night.

OriginalPouzar

Condors with insane pressure – Wanner gets the puck at the right circule and a BEAUTIFUL cross-seem pass to Hamblin for a wide-open net.

I’m waiting to see a replay but it may have been one of the best saves I’ve seen in a LONG time.

Tarkus

Summarizing!

Lachance scored his first two NCAA goals along with 5 SOG in an 8-2 romp; both were ES tallies. (His assist was later take away.)

Akey procured an aPPle in a losing effort.

Last edited 1 year ago by Tarkus
flea

That moment of indecision ruined what was a fantastic period for Skinner, thought he made some good saves and was solid.

Hankster

what’s happened to Mcdavid’s puck handling ? something is off. passed into skates, bobbling it, mishandling it. Weird.

OriginalPouzar

All season long – he’s been very poor with the puck in the middle of the ice.

doritogrande

Mike Smith would be proud.

Munny 2.0

That would’ve been one of the most skilled backhand goals of all time had Drai connected.

Pretendergast

Tend the goal

Munny 2.0

Now there;s a typical Oiler goal against

Time of period… check
Powerplay… chack
Buffoonery… double check

Last edited 1 year ago by Munny 2.0
Admiral Ackbar

The sloppiness of this team is very 2010. Barf

jp

That was a great pass inside by McDavid.

Munny 2.0

Great no-look by Connor gets the puck to the crease but no shotski results.

OriginalPouzar

The number of poor McDavid giveaways in the middle of the ice on the PP for the season is starting to add up.

Something is really off with his puck handling so far.

Pretendergast

Can Kozari kindly frig off

Admiral Ackbar

Good gord these penalties….

Gerta Rauss

Principal Skinner has looked good but they’re playin’ with fire with these penalties

813.52Ran

^ Did not age well.

oilinthepeg

Lol

Munny 2.0

even the PK looks (mostly) good

OriginalPouzar

Condors getting pumped on flow of play but score one against the flow – a wonderful play in the slot by McKegg but they give it right back (which I missed and am not re-winding).

OriginalPouzar

Lavoie loses his man in the nigh slot who take the pass from behind the net and buries it.

Condors down 1-0 early in the 2nd.

OriginalPouzar

Darnell Nurse was VERY good in that first period.

Both Broberg and Deharnais played under 2 minutes at 5 on 5 (and about 3:30 each overall).

OriginalPouzar

Feeling quite unlucky not to have a 3 goal lead coming out of that period.

NST has the 5 on 5 expected goals in the 90% range.

Mayan Oil

Lordy I am loving the pace tonight. That PP looks every bit as dangerous as last year or even more so!!

fishman

Hard to believe this is the same team that played the Flyers the other night.

Admiral Ackbar

Singer is just so second rate. Plz someone explain to me how he’s better than Kevin Quinn … and he gets the national broadcast….

I miss Cole followed by Cuthbert. (Dating myself)

oilinthepeg

I think he’s great. Has improved greatly over the past few years. Glad he has had the opportunity to grow.