Hurricanes at Oilers, G7 2024-25

by Lowetide
  • At home to: WPG, CHI, CAL, PHI (Expected 3-1-0) (Actual 1-3-0)
  • On the road to: NAS, DAL (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • At home to: CAR, PIT (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: DET, CBJ, NAS (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 7-4-0, 14 points in 11 games
  • Actual October results: 2-4-0, four points in six games
  • Oilers in 2024-25: 2-4-0, four points in six games
  1. C Ryan Nugent-Hopkins: Remind me, when did the Oilers have a center with enough skill to be considered a future difference maker in the o-zone? Weight or Arnott is my guess, and the whispers are that RNH could be something special. One of the questions we can ponder over the summer is “which winger will he develop chemistry with?” come the fall. Taylor Hall and Jordan Eberle will certainly get the first few at-bats, but Omark and Pääjärvi are out there and the ridiculous Hemsky remains an option. His Desjardins NHLE (82gp, 11-27-38) is shy of Hall’s from a year ago (82gp, 17-29-46) and even if we factor in age difference (5-6 months) I believe Hall was a better offensive prospect at the same age. Still, this is another outstanding prospect for the Oilers, and the four year run of first round selections that began with Eberle has been stellar. Stu MacGregor, you magnificent bastard.
  2. D Oscar Klefbom: Redline had him #11 in the entire draft, saying he was “the best pure passer” of the top end blue for this year’s entry. Redline then shifts into overdrive: “At Red Line, we believe he might ultimately become the best all-around balance of offensive upside and physical strength in this year’s class.” I don’t know what he is, but it sounds very good. Klefbom’s range of skills means that he can have an impact even if he doesn’t bring a lot of offense when he arrives in the NHL.
  3.  D Jeff Petry: Mobile defender with a wide range of skills, has shown enough already to suggest the Oilers have a legit top 4 talent here. Young man with size, mobility and intelligence. Oiler fans will turn on him in the “Tom Gilbert” way but for now we can celebrate a solid prospect who delivered on promise. A fine young prospect, perhaps overlooked a little because of the marquee value of Hall and the rest, Petry (and Peckham) represent important developments along the blue for an organization badly in need of help at the position.
  4. L Curtis Hamilton: Impressive season has him here, He’s a solid 2-way winger. He just needs to do it on a bigger stage (consistently) to move up this list. Hamilton has a nice range of skills, and we should expect that he’ll get a long look on the skill lines during the next few training camps. Although Hamilton has the tool kit to be an effective checker, it’s also true that there’s an impressive amount of offense there and he comes with the reputation of being a digger along the wall and is strong on the puck. A very good prospect.
  5.  L Teemu Hartikainen: Hartikainen showed well when called up at the end of a very successful AHL rookie season. A wonderful prospect with size, skill and hands. Hartikainen was not a highly touted prospect and his draft day scouting report suggested foot speed would be his anchor. That didn’t look like a problem during his late season audition. I’m not sure where he’ll slot, but if he can find a center to work with there appears to be enough skill to establish himself as an NHL player.
  6.  C Anton Lander: The modern Doug Jarvis or does he have more offense and less defense? We’re about to find out. He has an enormous defensive reputation for such a young player, can’t remember the last Oiler center with this kind of rep. Marchant didn’t have this kind of rep iirc. The thing to remember with this player is that his skill set suggests he can do a lot to help his team win hockey games even if he’s not posting major boxcars.
  7.  D Martin Marincin: Lost traction after an outstanding start, making it difficult to slot him until we see more. There is much hope for this player, but he needs to bulk up and those splits (first half: 33gp, 10-25-35 +6) (34gp, 4-17-21 -18) are enormous. I’ve looked long and hard and haven’t seen any injury reports, so he must have run out of gas. We hope for more in 11-12. Puck moving defender who can play the position, he’ll be the next guy up for the AHL roster.
  8.  D David Musil: A throwback defender who fills an important role. A candidate for the “next Jason Smith” for an Oiler bunch who should be pretty good by the time he hits the NHL. Musil isn’t going to bring the O, but he appears to be plenty good enough to supply the D. A safe pick and a needed skill set (as reflected by the sheer number of defensemen taken in rounds 2-7).
  9.  G Tyler Bunz: Emerged as a legit prospect this past season. His SP (.919) ranked among the WHL’s best and he showed very well in the playoffs (although he did sustain an injury). Oilers don’t fast track goaltenders so it’s going to be awhile (Roy will get his shot first, it’s shaping us as another JDD-DD match). But the arrows are strong.
  10.  R Tyler Pitlick. PF prospect suffered a late season injury and played the entire season on the wing despite being touted as a center of the future. His offense was a little shy, but the boxcars (56gp, 27-35-62) ranked him 3rd among WHL rookies and his EV stats (56gp, 22-19-41) suggest he might be a player. His 22 EV goals rank him 2nd among Tigers during the regular season despite missing several games and playing only sporadically on the big scoring line. Pitlick has moved down the prospect list since his draft day.
  11.  G Olivier Roy: Solid technical goaltender lacks the size most NHL teams look for in their starters (he’s listed at 6,00, 180 so he’s not an imp). Butterfly type, he ran hot and cold all year long but looks like a legit pro prospect.I think he trails Bunz in the race for this cluster’s best G option, but that’s jst a guess. The Oilers won’t have to make a decision on either for some time, so for now it’s just flying sorties.
  12.  D Jeremie Blain. Impressive season for lanky defender. Although he took forever to recover from injury, once he did Blain showed a nice range of skills and reports have him being vital to the team’s success. Oilers think he’ll fill out and he could be a late round gem down the line.
  13.  C Chris VandeVelde. Looked pedestrian based on AHL numbers, but his coach defended his play and there was anecdotal evidence VandeVelde was being used as a tough-line match up. His play when called to the NHL was solid and helped his final number on this list. I dion’t think he’ll make it, but that NHL stint was solid.
  14.  C Tobias Rieder: Looks like he’s a candidate for diamond in the rough. Chosen after the obvious offense was long picked, Rieder is undersized but determined and more than a little skilled. Redline gushed about him, brought into perfect focus by this statement: among the 2011 draft picks on this list, Redline liked only RNH, Klefborm and Musil more.
  15.  D Colten Teubert. Tough defender is a real throwback and an intimidating player. Thunderous hits and a mean streak make him somewhat unique and his role as an enforcer is backed up by the ability to play a regular shift. Unlikely to impact at the NHL level next season, he should see a cup of coffee during 11-12. His AHL coach says Teubert plays with such an edge he already grabbed opposition attention after short weeks in OKC.
  16. D Brandon Davidson. Late bloomer has calm feet and can move the puck expertly at junior level. Knock on him was skating but he seems to have improved enough for it to be a non-issue in the WHL. Played 2 AHL games on a PTO (professional tryout) and early returns were positive.
  17.  G Samu Perhonen. Have no idea what to do with him. I expect Perhonen will open up a SAAB dealership with Tommy Salo by the end of the decade but Janeway found a wormhole for Voyager to save Tuvok so maybe MBS can find a goalie to save Steve Tambellini.
  18.  D Alex Plante. Enjoyed a much stronger season in 10-11 at the AHL level, but has been unable to jump the queue. Petry, Peckham and Chorney have held serve, and although Plante has not been passed by draft picks taken later, it’s also true that the organization felt a need to trade for a similar player (Colten Teubert). I think Plante may be in a little trouble as an Oilers prospect.
  19.  D Martin Gernat: Intriguing prospect who either bribed all English speaking bloggers to write glowing scouting reports or has some actual abiltiy. My choice for draft sleeper of 2011, Oiler chapter. Luedeke and Bugg are a perfect match in their assessment: there might be a player here.
  20.  C Ryan Martindale. Enjoyed a very strong OHL season and looks ready to turn pro. Has not signed a contract with the Oilers, so that’s something to follow. Played on a very famous line and delivered impressive numbers. His issues had mostly to do with consistency so the offensive output would seem to answer that question. I’m not certain the Oilers love him as one of their own.
    Missing the cut

The Oilers prospect list this summer is exceptional. At the bottom end there isn’t much to choose from (Ewanyk vs. Czerwonka? I have no idea which prospect is more likely to fill a role in the NHL five years from now) so most of these 9 kids might be on your top 20 list and you’d be right. I’m posting it because in some way it shows just how much talent is available to the Oilers at this time.

  1. D Taylor Fedun: Outstanding college OD who is mature for a prospect and could come quickly. We don’t know enough about him as a defender to project him with any kind of confidence but he’ll got a full season to show his stuff in OKC.
  2. L Drew Czerwonka. Big man impressed with rugged style and surge offensively. Part of a surprising Kootenay Ice team, we have to wonder a little about the offense but he does seem to have decent hands.
  3. R Toni Rajala. Undersized skill winger had a solid year in Finland. Teenagers often get benched for long periods in the SM-Liiga (ask Jani Rita) so the fact that Rajala played a regular shift in 44 games bodes well.
  4. D Dillon Simpson: A solid prospect but not good enough to break into an impressive top 20. A nice range of skills and from the scouting report it sounds like he’ll battle the Brandon Davidson’s of the world for playing time in pro hockey.
  5. C Travis Ewanyk: PF who works his bag off (source: Redline) and can win faceoffs, but the batting average is poor. Good NHL role players often come from failed scorers but sometimes you can bring a kid like Ewanyk along and he learns to score enough to stay in the lineup.
  6. C Tanner House: The Oilers might have something here. A nice range of skills, including a solid defensive rep plus he delivered in a very short period in OKC (6gp, 1-4-5 at the tail end of the regular season). One never knows, but he could fast track to the NHL should Lander show signs he needs AHL time and VandeVelde falters in TC. A very nice signing by the Oilers.
  7. C Milan Kytnar: Enjoyed a solid first year pro after spending an extra year in junior. Kytnar didn’t see a lot of post-season action, perhaps a reflection of his status once all those prospects were sent down from Edmonton at the end of the season. A player to watch in 2011-12, he certainly surprised with his quality of play in OKC.
  8. D Kyle Bigos: Huge defender (6.05, 230) had another solid year for Merrimack (NCAA). Scouting reports have him playing heavy minutes in all disciplines, so it looks like the Oilers may have at least an AHL regular in the big man. It’ll be years before we know the entire story.
  9. C Mark Arcobello: Not on the radar to begin the season, the undersized center forced his way up the OKC depth chart upon his arrival. An absolute long shot to have an NHL career, there are Frank St. Marseille’s every once in awhile and this guy might be one.

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London Jon

Pretty fed up of seeing Bouchards total lack of danger awareness and zero interest in engaging anyone even the slightest bit physically.

And if he does accidentally come into contact with someone, he loses the battle almost every time.

A total revolving door and this has not improved one bit since season one

OriginalPouzar

Zack Hyman scored 16 goals in the playoffs a few months ago – the most in like 25 years.

Of course, he’s not going to repeat a 54 goal regular season (or 70 goal season) pace but I don’t think his lack of finish through 7 games is age-related regression that popped up since late June.

DevilsLettuce

That 32 yr old cliff is pummeling dear Zack, maybe a new fuel filter will help.

GaetanHaasWasAMediocreHockeyPlayer

Boy oh boy. I guess they’ll have to do this to me again.

Just once I would like a season where they are good all year long. No weeks-long stretches of unacceptable, under-performing hockey. A team like Carolina, who in their recent window, has never, October to April, not been a Good Team.

Arvidsson? Invisible.
Hyman, who I thought I could never criticize? Arguably cost them the game. Absolutely has to bury that chance.
Henrique? Need more.

Every smart hockey person said this team had the best forward group in the league, some even going as far as saying the best in the cap era. Yet seven games in, only three of top six have scored, and they have one regulation win.

Pittsburgh is a must-win. In October. Again.

GaetanHaasWasAMediocreHockeyPlayer

I was guessing about the Carolina being good all year during this window, but then I just checked the numbers.

The last losing month they had was December 2018, where they went 4-8-1.

Oiler seasons since then:

December 2019 (5-8-1)
January 2021 (5-6-0)
December 2021 (3-7-1)
December 2022 (7-6-2)/February 2023 (4-3-4)
October 2023 (2-5-1)

Granted, they made the playoffs all five years, but my God, what do we put ourselves through?

David

I liked Gaetan Haas.

GaetanHaasWasAMediocreHockeyPlayer

For what he was, I loved him with all my heart.

He had an incredible knack for scoring the seventh goal in 7-2 win.

linkfromhyrule

Leon was a turnover machine tonight and Bouchard played like someone gave him watered down decaf.

The coaching staff is also making a lot of curious choices, such as Derek Ryan line being on for d zone draw against Carolinas top line in 1st period. That’s a bad line match and it unsurprisingly led to an extended tire fire where they barely managed to not get scored on.

if not for Skinner this game was a laugher, although F. Andersen was very good too.

winchester

If you can’t put out a decent shut down fourth line, then you don’t have a decent shut down fourth line. Inadequate.

OriginalPouzar

The Canes goalie kept them in the game every bit as much as Skinner did the Oiler.

I agree on Leon but not Bouchard, who had the puck flowing the right way.

Janmark gets singled out as culpable on both regulation goals again

DevilsLettuce

Lol Janmark Janmark Janmark

OriginalPouzar

He was the main reason for the Cane’s regulation comeback last night – it is what it is.

Take a look at the numbers and they match the eye test last night – including his 2.96% expected goals – doesn’t even take in to account him being the direct reason for the PK goal against.

LMHF#1

I hope someone finds the clip of McDavid moving to the kill zone in the third, and instead of shooting, passing the puck to the corner boards.

That’s the theme of the year so far.

fishman

I didn’t like most of the first period but the last two were pretty entertaining. Skinners best game so far. Too many guys struggling to score. Can’t only be Connor and Leon. This team still not clicking 100% but they took a very good team to OT.

GaetanHaasWasAMediocreHockeyPlayer

Optimistic take. God bless for that.

I saw a team get taken to OT by a good team, based on missing sure things, overthinking the greatest powerplay in NHL history and horrendous, unacceptable defensive miscues.

If they make it through that PK to start the third, they win this game, especially after a save like that from Skinner. Janmark has time, space and possession, and doesn’t get that puck out.

OriginalPouzar

Hell of a hockey game!

Clarkenstein

Oil can only dream to have a hard working club like CAR. Man they just don’t stop in both ends of the ice. Oil lucky to get a point. No way I have 29 out there in the last minute. He dogs it both ways.

Munny 2.0

I thought CAR showed they had more juice in the last half of the third. Might be a better conditioned team than us at this point of the season. That McDavid shift with about 3 to play no one had any legs to do anything. That shouldn’t happen.

SKOilerFan

The 97 and 29 shifts are often too long.

Munny 2.0

Yes, they are.

thelongdark

It is happening again.

Munny 2.0

Cheating for offense by the two team leaders in OT says a bunch.

Bad line change goal. That’s an execution issue and Janmark who is normally a god in his own end played that has dumbly as I’ve ever seen anyone play it. He’ll be better but the Oilers are just not playing 60 minutes of buttoned-down detailed hockey right now.

As for that rush chance McD set up Hyman on, I thought that was a classic scoring slump miss. He was anxious and shot too early. If his panic point hadn’t been so short and he had held onto it a half second longer, he has an easy goal. Exactly the kind of miss you expect from someone pushing too hard. Pushing too hard is tough to criticize because obviously the player cares, but I will be grateful when Hyman’s goal woes are over. I don’t want to watch a Connor Brown season of tightly-gripped hockey stick from one of the top goal scorers.

Last edited 2 months ago by Munny 2.0
LMHF#1

50 goal scorers don’t get the grace of the “pushing too hard” as virtue reality.

He knows better. He’s a vet. He should absolutely be held accountable for missing that. He’d better be holding himself accountable and getting to work.

Hanging at least some of it on Knoblauch though. Still throwing 93 and 18 #2 over the boards in OT. No powerplay tweak. Let the team sag at 2-0. Not good.

Hate that game for Skinner. Half-decent D in the third and he shuts them out, which really would’ve helped his mindset.

Last edited 2 months ago by LMHF#1
Munny 2.0

No, what are you talking about? Guys who don’t have a history of scoring get no grace. Guys who have a history rightly always do. Players–in all sports–are judged by their body of work not their individual plays. You don’t think he’s holding himself accountable? What exactly do you think trying too hard indicates for motivation?

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Bowman is not Holland. He gunna do something soon.

cowboy bill

Skinner doesn’t move well from left to right. Or right to left.

Last edited 2 months ago by cowboy bill
Clarkenstein

Bullcrap. He played a helluva game.

cowboy bill

Regardless the Oilers got goalied again.

OriginalPouzar

The expected goals against per NST were 4.55 and Skinner made two very nice stops on one-timers where he moved across the crease with high efficiency.

winston

The whole team doesn’t move well.

Professor Q

I unfortunately haven’t been able to watch a game yet this season, but the commentary thus far from threads, here, and otherwise seem to suggest that most of the team can’t escape poorly timed mind lapses in play and seemingly…giving up and/or poor effort? What’s going on with that?

Derek

Vets look like shit defensively early and often and the team needs 2 top 4 dmen, imo.

SKOilerFan

WTF were 29 and 97 doing there?

Last edited 2 months ago by SKOilerFan
Diablo

Awful loss. Stu deserved better.

Last edited 2 months ago by Diablo
Faustkarz

not sure what mcdavid is doing cheating, expecting drai to take the puck at the blue line with 10 seconds left, instead of entering the D zone and supporting to take it to a shootout

danny

gross disregard for defense, 97/29 owe Skinner a steak dinner

Darryl8843

Everyone abandons ship with 5 seconds left.

thelongdark

Drai needs to get his head out of his ass.

Diablo

They all do … RNH, Hyman, Nurse, Bouchard, McDavid, Arvidson.

winston

this team. 🤦🏽‍♂️

KnightRain

Flew the coop…poor Skinner. He deserved better…

LMHF#1

Absolutely pathetic.

thelongdark

Just pure laziness to give up that ot goal.

Prairie_Sentinel

Stu deserved better

Funny Bissonness

100%

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

1 regulation win after 7 games is not ideal.

LMHF#1

Someone use this timeout to tell the guy wearing #97 that he already scored two and should probably shoot the puck himself.

LMHF#1

Can someone tell Jack that hockey players don’t “button hook”. They curl.

John Chambers

Jack went full ramble bamble with about a minute and a half to go.

LMHF#1

He’s also selling so hard that the Overrateds are a good hockey team. The Oilers have missed way too many chances in this one.

cowboy bill

Oilers have got to grab back the momentum.

KnightRain

We gotta be one of the worst line change teams in the league…we seem to get caught like that once a game, atleast…
Feel bad fir Skins…had no chance on either after making stops he probably should’ve

SKOilerFan

More lack of recognition and communication by the D corpse. 2 on 2 turned into a 2 on 1

LMHF#1

Terrible defending there. Nurse specifically as usual defending no one.

Diablo

He has the opposite of a “good stick”

John Chambers

Nurse covered most of the passing lane, but due to being a left shot on the right side, the pass was able to be sifted around him.
It would not have made its way past a RH defenseman.

Last edited 2 months ago by John Chambers
LMHF#1

You don’t “cover the passing lane” on that play. You take the man. And you don’t back right on top of your goalie.

He has no concept of gap control. Zero.

DexandRuby

He played the guy with the puck. Who had the goal scorer?

LMHF#1

He wasn’t even close to playing the man with the puck.

No Man’s Land – population Darnell.

SKOilerFan

His partner also gave the inside lane away for free then lacked desperation to cover for his gaf

LMHF#1

One is allegedly a $9.25 M “star”. One is not.

John Chambers

I like Jeff Skinner a lot more than I thought I would.

fishman

Definitely a high end skilled offensive player. Still waiting for Arvidson to show up.

LMHF#1

I remember how many people tried to say Brent Burns was “done” nearly a decade ago now.

I hope they learned.

fishman

Holy crap how do we not score a goal on that last attack???????????

Darryl8843

The Oilers now just beating themselves in there own end.

LMHF#1

That was horrible Zach. Horrible.

SKOilerFan

They say the hands are first to go

OriginalPouzar

Hyman, you HAVE to bury that.

Diablo

This lead does not feel safe

Diablo

The PK needs lots of work

OriginalPouzar

Come on Janny, clear that puck. Had it on your stick, full control, with time and a weak rim leads to a goal against.

DevilsLettuce

Apparently Skinner saw the Hasek comments lol

LMHF#1

Way to let down your goalie guys. Wtf…

OriginalPouzar

I just listened to Ryan Holt provide a during the play 60 second lesson on how the avenues and streets work in Calgary and how its abnormal. Thanks Holty.

Darryl8843

Credit where due. Skinner is lights out tonight while the Oilers go through unbelievable stretches in their own end playing poorly.

fishman

Skinner dialed in tonight. Good to see!

SKOilerFan

Well he’s certainly active within the general vicinity of the net. He’s been in desperation mode alot which most goalie coaches would say is not ideal.
Of course some of the desperation is a result of playing behind a team that is chaos Inc in the D Zone

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Second line is looking good.

fishman

Game management on display as no call as Skinner pulled down.

DevilsLettuce

Hyman hit that 32yr old cliff during the summer and is still falling.

OriginalPouzar

Only partially paying attention to the Condors game but Condors dominate the Wranglers in the first – shots 17-7 but only a 1-0 lead on the Philp beauty.

Delia did stop a penalty shot.

Wranglers had been pumping in goals early on the season coming in to this game.

OriginalPouzar

Good play by Nurse to shoot off the pads there.

SKOilerFan

An underutilized play

OriginalPouzar

Drai is about 50/50 on the halfwall on the PP – probably makes a poor play for a clear about 50% of the time he gets the puck on the flank this season.

SKOilerFan

Yep he just can’t resist attempting the low probability, chance for a highlight passes.
He’s just so well scouted over there so he’s got less space and time as well. Many passes to him are getting deflected now. Can’t believe they are sticking with this same alignment so long