Colin Chaulk and prospects

by Lowetide
  • Dylan Holloway 12 (.667 pts-game)
  • Raphael Lavoie 28 (.424 pts-game)
  • Philip Broberg 19 (.388 pts-game)
  • Tyler Tullio 19 (.351 pts-game)
  • Carter Savoie 18 (.286 pts-game)
  • Matvey Petrov 12 (.226 pts-game)
  • Max Wanner 15 (.221 pts-game)
  • Phil Kemp 14 (.219 pts-game)
  • Xavier Bourgault 11 (.2 pts-game)
  • Jayden Grubbe 13 (.194 pts-game)
  • Matt Savoie 2 (.677 pts-game)
  • Jayden Grubbe 2 (.677 pts-game)
  • Matvey Petrov 2 (.677 pts-game)

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OriginalPouzar

No performance bonuses in any of the 3 ELC years for O’Reilly.

yeraslob

Just noticed Broberg has played 6 games, has scored 6 points, and is a +6.

OriginalPouzar

This is not brand new information.

yeraslob

He’s the devil, lol

anonymous

Neither is almost everything you post, he said he just noticed, so what’s your point?

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anonymous

As some are aware, the oilers have been cursed for many years with bad management, and insist on doubling down.

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OriginalPouzar

Chaulk with lukewarm reviews of Savoie, Philp and Grubbe through 3 games. Basically saying they’ve each been good but also have more to give.

Savoie learning the pro game and figuring out how much space and how much time he has at this level.

Philp has found himself on the wrong side of the puck a few times but coach says it’s a function of being away for so long – he’s working on timing and needs lots of reps.

Grubbe is hard nosed and great in d-zone, getting in shooting lanes and positionally but areas of the game such as transitioning the puck need work.

OriginalPouzar

Coach says Petrov is not playing with enough pace. Had a tough summer due to his LBI at the end of last year. He’s catching up and he needs to do more. He knows that and he’s giving extra in the gym.

OriginalPouzar

Caggiula will be the vet that sits tomorrow and Griffith will play with Philp and Savoie.

Professor Q

How are we feeling today? Anxious? Excited? Intrigued? Worried? All of the above? Hopefully patience wins out and things start to level back to normal.

OriginalPouzar

Coach Chaulk spoke today about Philp having some issues with his timing and needing lots of reps – I don’t think a call-up is in the near term plans.

Of course, injury can change plans.

Funny Bissonness

I really really like that you can turn on the Prime hockey feeds half an hour before the broadcast starts. No announcers or anything, just a feed of the warmups. I love that so much. I like watching warm up.

I threw on the Leafs/lightning game and there’s so many great shots. Getting to see Matthews and Kuch handling the puck. Vasi gave Rielly a snow shower at the center line.

DieHard

Question for OP or LT.
regarding Philip
you say he can fill the 4C position. I do to.
do you think he has the ability to play 3C?

Ekholmsbeard. Formerly brobergstan

i dont see it happening this year, perhaps once henriques contract is up philp could fill the 3c role once he has a season and a half or so of nhl experience.

OriginalPouzar

Its tough to say – at this point, we haven’t even seen him play an NHL game at 4C. I mean as good as he has been in the AHL and as he was in the NHL exhibition season, the NHL regular season is a different animal.

I do believe he has some 3C potential – he skates well and is big and has a good head for the game and has the “3C skill-set”.

One step at a time.

OriginalPouzar

Since we are talking about the Condors, and have to read daily updates on any former Oiler doing well (but yet, never read about Foegele or Vinny and their performances this season), might as well note that Lavoie has zero points and a -2 through two games with Henderson. He did have five shots on net his last game.

winchester

Hope Lavoie does well and beats the odds.

If I was him I’d already have my trade request in. Maybe he is happy. Maybe the change will present opportunity for him.

But I have no doubt that was another Vegas ploy to use the system and grab another young player. Lavoie paid his dues, when claimed off waivers, that was his chance at an NHL shot.

Vegas shenanigans denied him of that NHL opportunity, then shoved him back to the AHL. Must have been disheartening.

Unless there is some kind of bright pathway ahead of him,he should get out of there asap. Screw you Vegas.

Scungilli Slushy

Every hockey player in the world over 18 has an NHL ‘opportunity’. Currently for skaters there are 672 jobs available. Unfortunately there are hundreds of thousands of players competing for them

If Ralph has the juice, his size and shot and that he isn’t timid actually give him an edge over many tweeners. I would say his chances are better in Vegas than Edmonton. They use his player type far more than Edmonton does. His demeanor is also not what JJ is looking for. Hopefully he’s not disheartened but pissed off, and grabs the ring before Stone gets hurt

Reja

The ship has sailed on Lavoie-Bourgault etc.we are basically down to Akey-Wanner of potential NHLers left from the last administration both who are long shots to make it.

OriginalPouzar

Wanner is FAR from a long shot to make it – he’s very much trending to have an NHL career.

jp

But I have no doubt that was another Vegas ploy to use the system and grab another young player.

The Friggin’ in the Riggin’ was the 2nd team though.

The team who put a claim in for Lavoie one day, preventing the Oilers from assigning him back to Bakersfield. Then the not putting a claim in the following day, allowing Vegas to claim Lavoie in order assign him to the AHL.

If there was a Vegas ploy, they did not act alone.

Has there been any more talk on what happened there?

OriginalPouzar

The way that played out is very irksome and it goes against the intent of the waivers process which is to ensure organizations cannot bury prospects in the AHL without NHL opportunity.

The point is to provide other teams an opportunity to provide the player with an NHL opportunity – not to make the player make life changes to be buried on another AHL team.

That “2nd claiming team” that all of a sudden disappeared – Jackson should be obliged to ensure the NHL is looking in to the circumstances to determine if there was collusion.

jp

Yeah, it’s definitely not the way waivers are supposed to work. Any idea if there’s any precedence for a team waiving a player and then having him waived to the minors in another team’s system within a few days?

I assume there is no precedence, but maybe it’s not actually unique.

That “2nd claiming team” that all of a sudden disappeared – Jackson should be obliged to ensure the NHL is looking in to the circumstances to determine if there was collusion.

Yes, I’ve been sort of expecting to hear more on this at some point.

Either that the Oilers organization isn’t happy with what happened, or alternatively an explanation of how the series of events that transferred Lavoie into another team’s minor league system occurred and were above board.

Perhaps that is not coming though.

OriginalPouzar

I don’t know of any precedent but, of course, that doesn’t mean it hasn’t occurred.

I would suspect there have been cases when the team that originally lost the player didn’t put in a claim to get them back and just wanted to move on but maybe not.

To be honest, I doubt we ever hear anything. Not that Jackson has asked the league to look in to it (I don’t know but I presume he and Gretzky and Bowman were/are not happy) but even if the league does “look in to it”, we’ll probably never hear unless they find some sort of collusion and impose an actual penalty.

Waiting for a cup

I doubt it was Vegas that was colluding. I would look at the agent. They have the personal phone numbers of all the GMs, and it would be pretty easy to exchange favours. I don’t know who Lavoie’s agent is but if I knew, I would look at which high profile clients they had on the teams above Edmonton.

Sierra

Wasn’t it the Avs and they claimed Kahkonen after the Oilers claimed Lavoie back and didn’t have room to claim on Lavoie again?

OriginalPouzar

There was never any public confirmation on who the second claiming team was when the Oilers claimed Lavoie back, just speculation that it was the Avs.

The Avs did claim Kakhonen the same day the Knights re-claimed Lavoie so I suppose, if it was the Avs, there could be a reasonable reason they didn’t claim again but, at the same time, even with the Kakhonen claim, the Avs had tons of cap room and space for Lavoie, and the same need for forwards as the day they blocked the Oilers from an AHL assignment.

godot10

Vinny is in competition with Juulsen for #3RD, who was with the Canucks last year. It takes time to displace a D the coaches are familiar with.

He is also in competition for Forbort who plays the left side, because they might prefer Juulsen at RD if Forbert wins the #3LD spot over Brannstrom.

It is sort of Forbort Juulsen vs. Brannstrom Desharnais. It is a competition that will take some time.

I would not bet against Vinny.

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OriginalPouzar

I’m fairly confident that, on July 1, Alvin and Rutherford did not sign Vinny to $2MM X2 contract with the thought of him being healthy scratched in the first weeks of the season.

fishman

Guessing any one of us would have signed that deal for $4 mil guaranteed if we were in Vinny’s shoes. Will be interesting to see how his career goes. Could end up being a guy who bounces from team to team.

godot10

As for Foegele, I thank Rob Blake everyday.

OriginalPouzar

Here are the totals for this year’s prospects through three games (small sample warning):

Matt Savoie 2 (.677 pts-game)

Jayden Grubbe 2 (.677 pts-game)

Matvey Petrov 2 (.677 pts-game)

I believe Grubbe has 3 assists (2 empty netter assists, mind you).

OriginalPouzar

I thought this may come before he even played his first game with London but O’Reilly has signed his ELC.

Of course, it will slide this year and also subject to slide next season (if he doesn’t play 10 NHL games).

He is NOT age-eligible for the AHL next season so it’s NHL or junior.

OriginalPouzar

Just in case anyone wasn’t certain, from post-practice media, the PP1 guys “take a lot of pride” in being good on the PP.

Reja

The PP1 is costing us games it’s not crisp teams are overplaying Leon and Bouchard Connor and Nuge need to walk in and shoot It’s as simple as it gets.

OriginalPouzar

Per Nugent Bowman:

Oilers lines and pairings at practice:
RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Skinner-Draisaitl-Arvidsson
Podkolzin-Henrique-Perry
Janmark-Ryan-Brown
(Rotating in bottom six)

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Dermott
Kulak-Emberson
Stecher

On the ice: Roby Jarventie

wkorkie

Should try:
Pod-McD-Hymietown
Skinner-Dria-Arv
Nuge-Henrique-Brown
Jan-Ryan-Perry

Reja

Does this mean they can send Jarventie down to Bakersfield? Will they accure more daily cap space when he’s sent down?

OriginalPouzar

because Jarventie played 7 NHL games last season, he is on our cap (his cap hit is pro-rated to the amount of games on the roster last year, so its $107K, I believe).

Yes, it will increase the daily accrual by a smidge once he can finally be sent down.

Ancient Oilers Fan

Which works out very close to $600 a day or $18,000 a month

OriginalPouzar

Personally, I’m just looking forward to him getting up an running and getting some games in.

I expect he’ll have a very slow start to the season and may struggle most of the year playing catch up to the league and catch up with his body

Mainly just hoping he gets through the year healthy and can train fully in summer and be rearing to battle and compete in September.

He’s a real prospect of interest but this injury, which MAY really kybosh the better part of two years (if he is behind most of the year) is a big deal.

Reja

You definitely weren’t getting a injury free Jarventie for Bourgault whose stock plummeted faster than Bre-X.

finn_fann

Over the last few years, it seemed like whenever we needed someone to step up and fill a role, there was someone there who was more than capable of taking on the assignment. Some of that was probably overcooking prospects, but surely the coach gets some credit for having the prospects in good shape when needed. I think a lot of the angst gets directed at the handling of individual prospects, and maybe deservedly so in some cases, but the overall work seems reasonable to me.

Whaler Slamamoto

Enjoying the thought of you sleeping way the hell in! Rest up! You deserve it!

On that note, I think there is no other explanation than a cold/flu going through the top guys. They aren’t all hurt, and they all didn’t lose their love for hockey over the summer. Give it a week.

Pumped for another great season.

wkorkie

Every time I hear Kate G on Al’s show, I want to pick up the phone and call social service to report a radio station violating child labor laws. Is she as young as she sounds or am I just an old, old man (Two things can be true at once)? Hope you feel better soon.

OriginalPouzar

For me, I don’t have a huge issue with the way Chaulk deployed his bench. It’s not like the “real prospects” didn’t get a chance to play up the lineup, they did, they just never grabbed the opportunity.

Sure sometimes the leash wasn’t long but the players themselves need to perform. When they did, they played.

I mean Wanner hit the ground running and played legit minutes all year long. He had periods of struggle but played hard through it and retained ice time.

Tulio, when he has heater periods, played in the top 6.

Bourgault and Petrov never really ever earned more time in the top 6.

The year prior, Philp started as 4LW and healthy scratch and we know how he finished the season. He earned opportunity and performed when given it.

OriginalPouzar

For this year, I would note the, after a horrible series of camps (prospect, main and AHL), Petrov started on the 4th line but has worked his way up to play with Hamblin and Griffith after a strong start.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

That kind of resilience is a key attribute for a prospect to succeed.

rich tm

Thanks for posting on Chaulk and his work with (what’s left) of the prospects.

Development is always crucial and making sure the kids get “at bats” and a good environment to progress in never goes out of style. Glad to see that Savoie, Philp, Grubbe, Wanner and Petrov are getting a chance.

It’s early, but it can also get late early too.

Shamus23

I see the coach said there will be some changes for Tom night against the Hurricanes. I wonder what those changes will be? The pp could use a shakeup and I wonder if he could drop Skinner in for Nuge. It seems the pp tries to get way too fancy and passes a bit much ( last game they did shoot a bit more) . When the passing is very fast and crisp it does work, but this year way too many fumbles and misses and much slower setting up those passes. Adding Skinner would give them another shooter option for sure. I know Nuge controls the half wall on the left side and the drop pass to Bouchard, but he rarely shoots thus far this season and teams are taking the x pass to Drai away a lot more. Maybe sticking Skinner in will give them 2 shooting sides and make teams not just cover Drai, thus possibly opening him up for more chances as well. Just a thought .

Bar_Qu

I hope there are some changes for PP1, but also a shorter leash. They don’t need to play 1:40 of the PP right now when they aren’t producing. Get some line changes in if they don’t establish/hold possession in the O-zone, and give the 2PP some more time.

flea

Looking at your comment on your co hosts LT makes me think about how many up and comers have produced your show over the last 10 years. Lt Eric, Connor Halley, Tyler Yaremchuk. Maybe Declan is next. The path to success in Edmonton sports media runs through LT.

godot10
W

Nurse has more time on the pp than Victor or Jeff. Conor, Leon. Zach, Nuge have almost 5 times more power play time than the new hired guns. (240 seconds compared to 50 seconds) Welcome to the team boys, now sit down and watch.
 Would love to know what Allan and Bruce think.

Neumann

Over the past 3 years that 5man unit has been the best PP in the history of the NHL. They are struggling. Handles are off, bobbles, dusting the puck off, too much looking for the one more. I think the coach has two options:
1 – PP1 gets told you’ve got 60-80secs and if the puck gets cleared or a whistle goes PP2 goes over the boards. Gets the new guys some looks and sends a message to PP1 (make the most out of your time).
2 – Pull RNH (he is very good at zone entries historically with his interaction with 97 and 2 to set up – but he is bobbling the puck and his shot looks weak) or Hyman (hasn’t been a net front presence and his handles on the pass down from the left point/half wall has been a grenade on his stick)