Game 11, ’26-27: Maple Leafs at Oilers

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knighttown

This will sound rhetorical but it truly isn’t. I would love someone to give me answer.

You have three game states in the sport of hockey with which you can play Connor McDavid. You also have a cap on the total number of minutes he can play and remain so by playing him in one state you can’t play him as much in another.

  1. Of the 122 qualifying forwards Connor McDavid is ranked 117th in goals/60.
  2. He is ranked 1st in PP GF per 60
  3. He is ranked 2nd in 5v5 GF per 60

So Babcock and I agree the McDavid should play as much PP as can handle since he seems to be very good at it.

Why does Babcock think McDavid is better short handed than he is at even strength?

He’s not just “not world class” at it. He’s not “pretty good”. He’s not “average”. He’s flat out bad. How bad?

His PK/60 rates are a near match for his PP/60 rates meaning he effectively turns every other teams PP into playing against himself.

Mr.Snrub

Shakir Mukhamadullin is a bad NHL defenceman, he and Ty Emberson got absolutely caved tonight yet somehow they were the top pairing at least in terms of even strength ice time. Outshot 8-1 shot attempts at 19-3 and Corsi & Fenwick at 13% This is not the droid defenceman you’re looking for Stan.

SKOilerFan

Wallyworld -7 in 15min per game in 8 games
1 A
He needs to be way better than this. He’s stumbling around alot defensively, in chase mode too often. His offensive decisions are not intelligent
he is playing with some forwards that should be in the A, but this is a 7M D man. This might be problem number 1 to solve after injuries

Last edited 14 hours ago by SKOilerFan
fishman

Yea that contract could become odorous!

anonymous

Completely predictable. What do you expect when you pay premium for a player that another team paid to go away not even six months earlier.

Doubled down with a goalie that the Pens couldn’t pay to get rid of six month earlier.

Stan has been wrecking the Oilers since he took over. McDavid keeps the boat circling at least.

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tapper

13 players with points vs 3 players with points. So many 4th lines. Which one to play?

What was McT’s line? At some point you have to score?

fishman

I believe he said you have to be a threat to score ( I think ?)

Ranford.85

That still doesn’t apply to lines 2-4

Lenny

Something like “it can’t be that the best case scenario on a given night is that you are a non factor”

rich tm

Bakersfield has Day playing tonight and Jonsson as the backup. Any idea what happened with Ungar? Did they flip him and Jonsoon?

€√¥£€^$

Ungar appeared to get banged up from what I saw from watching highlights from yesterday. Ungar was later pulled & replaced by Day.

GarbanzoHumanBean

Lmk if anyone has a vid of how Draisaitl scored the first goal for the oilers. I can’t tell how it beat Stolarz.

GarbanzoHumanBean

I’ve seen it but you came to the same conclusion.

SVR

Terrible effort tonight but these are going to happen over the course of the season. If they come back and beat Detroit and Calgary, all will be forgiven

jtblack

LT called this

Fuhr and Lowething in Vegreville

Also, Jarry was not good tonight, especially late, but with great goalerung we still likely lose this game 4-2ish…blaming Jarry is the easy way out of excusing poor roster decisions.

SVR

Well, that was embarrassing. Hopefully embarrassing enough that they come back with full team efforts against Detroit and Calgary. That would make really successful home stand

LMHF#1

Will it matter?

If they don’t start Tomkins, they’re going to be playing ultra-nervous hockey because they know they can’t count on their tender.

GarbanzoHumanBean

Who’s embarrassed?

SVR

Hoping the team is. If they have any pride

rich tm

They need to get back to how they played earlier (against Seattle, Anaheim, San Jose, LA, and Utah). You have to get pucks deep. You have to change when you have the puck. You have to play with better structure and stop making bad decisions with the puck.

And coach needs to decide how long he can continue to have just one line producing offense. It’s easier when you only give up 1 goal. Harder if you’re giving up 2 or more.

jtblack

what’s a full team effort? lines 2-4 are lucky to score … do you mean a 4 pt game from Connor?

SVR

lol, I get what you’re saying. Lines 2-4 are just bad right now. They need to show up. Jones might actually be the worst player in the NHL though

rich tm

Stauffer making excuses on the post-game. It’s more than the bottom six. The team made poor line changes, poor decisions. You can’t just wait until you get healthy.

Fuhr and Lowething in Vegreville

TML 7, Connor and Leon 2.

I hope somone gets their head out of their asses soon. Savoie getting healthy isn’t going to change the lineup decisions if getting back Hyms and Nuge haven’t.

This has been completely unsustainable and we’re 1/8 into the season and are already talking about the top line being tired with McDavid also PKing…

Frustrating for me because I feel like this iteration of the Oilers has more talent than ever in the McD era if utilized correctly.

The great start was a mirage based on PDO and historical numbers being put up, but, again…unsustainable.

/rant over

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jtblack

how does this lineup have more talent than 2024?

Fuhr and Lowething in Vegreville

Not sure to be honest, but I feel like we’re just as good but can’t say because other than the big boys I don’t feel like the rest are being put in the batting order to optimize the lineup.

Fuhr and Lowething in Vegreville

So, do you feel like the deployment thus far this season has been optimal for long term success?

GarbanzoHumanBean

They’ve decided as a group to go into the season without a 2nd line center. I figure they’ll ride McDrai until a trade at the deadline
while hoping the rest of the group will figure out how to be even on the night.

Fuhr and Lowething in Vegreville

I understand that thought process, but I don’t agree with it.

StixMalone

Can’t wait for the presser

fishman

Nice gift to the Leafs fans who make their one appearance a year at Roger’s on a Saturday night.

813.52Ran

The Oilers have a big, big Tristan Jarry problem.

GarbanzoHumanBean

Crazy!!! They start the season with three goalies but we’re still in October and Jarry is the only option.

LMHF#1

Waive him. Holy crap he’s got zero ability to weather a storm…

winchester

Can we send both Walman and Doolan back to the Sharks??

GarbanzoHumanBean

Jarry quits competing. That’s why the leaders don’t like him

Tarkus

Summarizing!

Fischer and Harvey each had a pair of assists.

Berzkalns scored his 2nd of the season.

Wakely had a helper whilst winning 9 of 15 draws (60.0%).

Lafreniere, Sharp (which tandem I didn’t know was playing!) and Berry were held soupless.

Robinson did not dress.

StixMalone

Jarry is not good tonight that was bad

winchester

Oh dear.

gwdsfo

Several interesting lineup choices tonite. Does this piss poor performance mean we see Carfagna on Monday? And what about Quinn Hutson? And where’s Frederic? And why is Jones still on this team? He’s incapable of making passes in the AHL?

rich tm

They did not call up a d-man for this game. Will they between now and Monday?

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Crazy Pedestrian

If Babcock went with a gut feeling switching out Howard and Frederic for Jones and Hallander, it was the wrong one.

SKOilerFan

He’s got gut rot

Grover Jackson

One wonders if the Babcock interview went something like this?

McDavid and Draisaitl. “We want to play on the same line and win the Cup.”

Babcock. “I’m your man.”

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Can’t leave Neon Leon free on your goalie’s flank.

LateNightOilFan

Alrighty, just need a goal a minute to get to OT

SKOilerFan

Wallyworld hasn’t had his A game for a long while now. Injuries have piled up I think

maximaphilologica

Walman is 30 and has had his A-game (the game the Oilers paid for) for maybe 80-odd games of his career. He’s lost his game now for longer than he ever really had it. Committing to 7×7 for that brief of a track record was always a bad idea.

Grover Jackson

Tonight was a good reminder of how this team played defensively before Holland acquired Ekholm.

delooper

I tried a few different streams to see if the Oilers were doing any better in those. No luck!

Whaler Slamamoto

Sky is falling crew sharpening their knives…..

yycyegyvr

With good reason.

jtblack

how’s our depth scoring doing?

Grover Jackson

In terms of Babcock fixing the bottom 6, are we there yet?

StixMalone

Brutal goal flukey but brutal.

yycyegyvr

Embarrassing.

GarbanzoHumanBean

Who’s embarrassed? You? Them? It’s one game dude.

yycyegyvr

I’m sure they are very happy with their effort tonight.

Ranford.85

Shite game all around but again, special teams playing a factor.
The Oilers should be able to kill one penalty.
The Oilers should also score on one of two power plays, at their current rate.

danny

Babcock can use this.Tough to get complete buy in when you keep winning. Short pain long term gain. But why does it have to be vs the leafs 🖕

rich tm

All the odd man rushes and the poor play in their zone were eventually going to catch up with them.

Be interested to see what changes on Monday, and not just roster and who is playing where – which was all KK was able to do. How they play has to change. Last year hockey crept back into their game.

winchester

Where did the right system go?

And top line trying too hard now.

Not near as fast a game as Carolina.

Oilers still have a chance, need some bounces, but poor showing tonight to my eye.

Crazy Pedestrian

Ekholm and Levi injured in same game didn’t help. Defence a bit scrambly. Also think Howard should not have been sat. Even though he wasn’t producing much, He’s a puck hound and brings some semblance of a threat in the bottom six.

SKOilerFan

2 showing some fatigue with increased minutes.
Coach is stubborn on 1st 2 lines
Lines 3 and 4 just not enough talent there

Fuhr and Lowething in Vegreville

I was not a fan of the Babcock hiring, then I warmed up to it, still like alot of things he’s doing, but if continues to remain stubborn regarding deployment of his stars it’s not going to end well for him, IMHO.

GarbanzoHumanBean

Stars wanted to play together.

Fuhr and Lowething in Vegreville

Irrelevant, especially because part of the company line was that they wanted to be coached and do what’s best for the team.

Also, if two of the best Centers in the world don’t want to drive their own lines then what the eff? It’s odd to me.

yycyegyvr

Great they can. They won’t win the big prize but they can play together.

GarbanzoHumanBean

It ain’t about the regular season. You can always split them up later in the season but you need to teach the role players how to win without the big 3.

SKOilerFan

Batman veto card been getting played more often since 25

delooper

This is where the Oilers rebuild their “cheat for offense” habits that feeds the McDavid+Draisaitl addiction.

mirnovsvodka

Mcdavid has been on the ice or screwed up the change for three against tonight.

I think he’s been on for seven in the last three games.

That line is leaking more than it’s getting right now.

fishman

I had little confidence Jarry could hold the Leafs to 3.

Fuhr and Lowething in Vegreville

There’s no reason at all to put any of this on Jarry.

kinger_OIL

— to the extent the publicly available statistics are a proxy he’s more than 2 goals worse than expected for the game so far …

Fuhr and Lowething in Vegreville

I stand corrected. Lol

GarbanzoHumanBean

Hard to win with 1 goal.

fishman

I would suggest Stolarz has been the better goalie with more big saves.

SKOilerFan

True. To date Oilers have had the better goalie in at least 8 of 10 games.
With Jarry’s history in Edm that is likely to swing back the other way

Gerta Rauss

It’s uphill from here

jtblack

gonna need a goal from lines 2 thru 4 to have a chance

rich tm

Oilers will never get another goal from lines 2-4.

SKOilerFan

Ha, they are lucky to have any O zone time. Bunch of 4A talent there

LateNightOilFan

Wow Stolarz is so good he’s playing at both ends now according to Chris Cuthbert.

Gerta Rauss

Friedman saying Miroshnichenko in WSH is available

20 OV in 2022
6’1″ 194lbs right shot winger

Says WSH is not going to waive him but is willing to listen to offers- apparently they can’t find him ice time

fishman

We have no shortage of bottom 6 players?? We could use a top 6 shooter

Gerta Rauss

I know nothing about the kid, but are we sure what he is after 55 NHL games..?

Ice Sage

Who said BOuch doesn’t go low? – he was in the Chara position – luv it!

GarbanzoHumanBean

Anyone know where Drai scored. I saw 2
replays and can’t tell
how he scored a wrister from the point.

GarbanzoHumanBean

2026 and we can’t get an angle to see the goal within replay time. I feel like hockey is still in the era of the immaculate reception.

GarbanzoHumanBean

Replays with the panel and I literally don’t get an angle of where he beat stolarz.

SKOilerFan

Roger’s doesn’t set the bar real high

GarbanzoHumanBean

So, 20 minutes later and have we seen the puck travel into the goal? Was high blocker? Medium glove? Top corner.

GarbanzoHumanBean

Am I taking crazy pills?

GarbanzoHumanBean

I know I’m being obtuse but the nhl wants to be a top 4 sport yet the people viewing cannot determine how the hardest thing to do in the sport actually happened.

usuallyunusual

The oil bottom 6 have trouble making that hard thing happen.

yycyegyvr

Maybe that will open the floodgates.

Crazy Pedestrian

at least now, if the Oilers lose, it won’t be a shutout. Silver lining

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Goin’ in Drai…

LMHF#1

Can someone tell Jarry that funny glove on his left hand is for catching the puck?

Jeez…

delooper

We have a sign of life.

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