PS G1, 2: Oilers vs Flames

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rev.hans

An aside: Any rumblings about moving the Condors closer to the parent club? When do the new rules re “paper transfers” come into effect?

Tarkus

I can endorse moving the Condors to, say, Saskatoon. I’d definitely make it to a few games then.

MushedPeas

As mentioned previously, I’m a strong booster for a farm team in Toon Town.

Respondents have observed:

  1. Too few connecting flights to the rest of the AHL (probable);
  2. No obvious home arena for the squad (I don’t know better but this seems unlikely)
dessert1111

I think Victoria could support an AHL team and would have an airport comparable to Winnipeg’s

Reja

Saskatoon should of had a team 40 some years ago. As you know they were close really close.

OriginalPouzar

No rumblings – Holland was hard again it – thought having separation between the two clubs was important – one of the reasons was that he wanted a call-up to be more than just changing dressing rooms.

The Oilers have been at a disadvantage on this for a while and I’ve stated it many times. All the other Canadian teams have their AHL affiliate local and not many teams in the league don’t.

The rules are in effect for this season but they actually remove the disadvantage in some ways – having to play a game in the AHL is a big deal and teams won’t “paper” a legit NHL player if they have to play a game – injury risk.

rev.hans

Thx

Scungilli Slushy

if any market can support NHL AHL WHL it’s Edmonton

Fibonacci

Metro Vancouver, Toronto and Calgary already do.

Winnipeg couldn’t make the WHL work with the Jets and Moose.

Pretendergast

Winnipeg could. They had a WHL team that left because True North wouldnt let them play anywhere. They were stuck playing in the Bisons rink which housed a few hundred people tops. Not sustainable.

Fibonacci

Now Holland has the Ontario Reign 40 minutes away down Route 10.

Walter Gretzkys Neighbour

LT – first of all congratulations on your marriage, all the best to you and your wife. Second, a while ago you posted a pic of what I am guessing was Clifford! I have a virtually identical looking dog – “Daisy” she is 50% St. Bernard and 50% Bernese Mountain Dog and she too – weighing in at 112 lbs – considers herself a lap dog. She is the most loving and gentle quadruped – so I get the whole “let Ziggy snarl” vibe! I come here every day and though I post very little I can’t express how much I appreciate and enjoy your writing, stories, personal tidbits – all of it. Thank you LT and Mrs. LT – you are gems.

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Mayan Oil

Hard to catch everything when you have both games streaming at the same time on adjacent windows, but I felt pretty good from the snippets I saw from Marjala and Regula. Savoie looks pretty darned good as well of course! Will see how they hold up as the rosters start to narrow and the level of competition increases… but feeling hopeful!

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dessert1111

I watched the away game somewhat passively, here’s what stood out to me.

The goalies looked very good, particularly considering their ages. They’re big and seemed to move well, with Jonsson in particular showing some nice quick flexibility and quick twitch.

Akey looks like a completely different player than 2 years ago in terms of size and style. Gone is the little riverboat gambler, he’s filled out and played a much quieter, subtle game. Seemed very aware. Emberson touched the puck a lot. Leppanen is a really fun and skilled player – how he plays in the structure of an NHL game, I have no idea, but I’d pay to see it.

Samanski impressed me for a junior aged player – size, skill, speed, and awareness. Howard showed flashes of offensive skill but didn’t dominate. Hutson touched the puck a lot, looked like a mature and very capable player at this level. Clattenburg seemed a bit lost at times and had some trouble getting to the play but was also able to score an opportunistic goal – curious if he starts in the AHl or ECHL. Jarventie looked like someone who’d only played 2 games in the past 2 years.

I don’t think any of the bubble guys moved the needle in either direction.

Although a bit boring at times, I was impressed with the level of structure the Oilers showed for the first preseason game with a hodgepodge roster. People were tracking well for the most part, back checking, finding their men – normally I’m used to a lot more missed assignments and broken plays at the beginning of preseason.

Reja

Why would you sign Clattenburg to a ELC contact and then shove him in ECHL?

Bill

The kid may have been a game rooster in the OHL, if he can’t get the pace of play in the AHL right off the hop then he’s bound for Fort Wayne. It’s not a question of why sign him to an ELC, he has to earn the ice time.

dessert1111

To get big minutes. He’s a late bloomer, and with his style of game, I think he’d be fourth line in the AHL this year.

Long term, to develop that skill set and give him a chance to be a truly unique plus NHL player, I’d play him as much as possible in skill situations this year.

OriginalPouzar

Good summary but I don’t think Samanski is juinor-aged, he’s 23, no?

Oh, I don’t think there is a chance Clattenburg goes to the ECHL – the likes of James Stefan and Stonehouse maybe.

dessert1111

I stand corrected, I confused him with one of the newly drafted guys. In that case, I’d say the skill set is still enticing but where his game is at isn’t as impressive as it is expected.

LMHF#1

Nurse plays puck instead of man, game over.

Then they give him second star…hahaha

fistycuff

Well, Oilers didn’t get any saves in this one and Flames did…thought most the of the oil Played well. Was hoping to see Frederick better, but it’s still early.

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Tarkus

Make the final 3-0 Oilers in Calgary as Jonsson (12 SV) and Day-man (8) combine for the shutout.

But the Oilers lose in EDM 3-2 in OT as Tomkins can’t corral Frost’s shot from the slot.

Last edited 22 days ago by Tarkus
LMHF#1

Pitlick moves like a vet. Interesting.

Tarkus

2-0 for the Oilers in Calgary as Clattenburg scores.

And then he gets in a scrap shortly afterward.

And then Stillman makes it 3-0.

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Gaz Gazzersson

A most malodorous turnover on behalf of the Falmes!

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Tarkus

Philp and Akey assisted on the 3-0 goal.

LMHF#1

This guy’s going to flat out will himself into the league, isn’t he?

Ozoil

Connor ‘Tom Wilson’ Clattenburg

Todd Macallan

Connor “Kelly Buchberger” Clattenburg(er)

LMHF#1

Let’s hope he doesn’t get beat up as much as Buchberger.

2minutes4lookingsogood

Always fighting guys up a weight class.

Walter Gretzkys Neighbour

I’m all for that!

Reja

They’ ll be chanting his name in Bakersfield by Christmas time. I do think he gains the trust of the coach early on and gets some PK time. Not many players of his ilk are Captains of their Junior teams.

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OriginalPouzar

Of course, not many captains of the Flint Firebirds have subsantial NHL careers – and by “not many”, I mean none yet (save Ty Dellandrea)…..

Reja

I get you don’t approve of Clattenburg methods. Of course he’s a longshot but if healthily he’ll be arriving on the Oilers sooner than you think as his stock just keeps rising and there isn’t a thing you can do about it.

Tarkus

Petrov pots the equalizer late in the second, banking a shot off a defender from behind the net. 2-point game for him.

Assists to Marjala and the House of Stone.

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Tarkus

2-1 Calgary in EDM as they strike on the PP, Farabee converting a cross-ice feed on the doorstep.

LMHF#1

Tomasek is going to be just a step too slow. Just not reacting to the play fast enough.

Tarkus

Day-man enters the game in Calgary after Jonsson stopped all 12 shots he saw. Still 1-0 Oil there.

Tarkus

Nurse opens the scoring in EDM as his wrister from the left point eludes the Calgary tender. Partially screened by a passing Marjala in the slot. Petrov gets the lone helper.

Tarkus

Then Nurse does a fine job of screening Tomkins and gets caught puck-watching while Frost ties the game.

LMHF#1

Then, in midseason form, covers no one and screens his own goalie as Frost scores to make it 1-1.

He’s a forward.

OriginalPouzar

Lots of good reports of Leppanen impressing with his puck moving – making great plays from the defensive zone.

Howard looking standing out as well with a beauty pass to send Kap in for the goal.

Gaz Gazzersson

It’s the most wonderful time (for goalie masks) of the year:

Stu #1:
https://www.instagram.com/p/DOtbRq5CJx8/

Picks:
https://www.instagram.com/daveart/p/DO1pJv6iCQB/

Tarkus

Kapanen gives the Oilers a 1-0 lead in the game in Calgary, assisted by Kulak and Howard.

Jonsson in goal.

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Gaz Gazzersson

Nathaniel Day now between the pipes. Nobody on the Falmes broadcast crew seems to have noticed though. 🙂

Oh! Eight minutes after the switch was announced in the rink, the broadcast crew has caught on.

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OriginalPouzar

Tomasek not afraid to rip the puck – from distance.

Heavy shot.

OriginalPouzar

Frederic’s skating is night and day from the playoffs!

Todd Macallan

Absolutely. Very noticeable by comparison.

I also feel like Regula is moving fairly smoothly for a big guy, don’t have any prior comparison for him tho haha.

OriginalPouzar

Regula is known to move well for a big guy – its good to see it!

Reja

My wallet unfortunately thought Frederic was going to be the difference maker against the mighty Panthers in the Cup Final. Although he should of had a goal in game 4 OT. To this day I can watch that replay a 100 times and I still don’t know how it didn’t go in. I’m a big fan of Frederic going back to his 2 breakout years in Boston as he does have a sneaky shot and alright hands. Here’s hoping for a Ethan Moreau career with a tad more scoring as Ethan had stone hands but had not bad wheels and a big heart

knighttown

I can’t say I’m excited that in a year we’re showing Connor this is the place to win we’re starting with 23 goals for our top 4 wingers playing alongside 97/29. And an average age of 28 so not exactly “young blossoming talent”.

Victoria Oil

Belated congratulations LT. Very happy for you.

I appreciate every one of your posts, but I would have been happy to see you give yourself the weekend off.

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Scungilli Slushy

The main thing about this camp is that the core is relaxed, per a few sources. I thought they may have come in out of sorts still, but I suppose having gone through it once before they were sad and mad for a while and flushed it

I also liked Connor’s comment about the pace and competitiveness of practice. I take from what he said having so many older players things may have gotten flat. I think we will see it pan out in games. To me too many guys last year were sitting back and watching too much. I think it’s natural for older players to use their brains and anticipation more, but if everyone is doing that there isn’t enough hot pursuit to disrupt the other team

It seems like Bowman saying some new faces inject energy panned out. The rookies are hungry, Frederic is hungry to show what he can do, Bread Man is hungry to show he was the right choice. The fringe forwards are hungry, there won’t be leeway to not stay at their best, there are options. Stu is hungry to claim the net without question, and secure his tenure, and his summer work shows that. The guys battling for 3RD are hungry

I hope Knob runs a better camp this time

OriginalPouzar

I think last year they came in cocky, knowing they lost the cup by essentially a coin toss, were dreading the long season thinking they could go through the motions and dominate the regular season.

It seems they core, at least McDavid and Drai are focused this season, want to get off to a good start (knowing they need to earn it) and ride it through the season.

I also think McDavid is sick of other players having better seasons than him and wants to remind the world why he is in a tier all to himself!

Woodguy v2.0

I’m deliberately lowering my expectations of Leppanen because Funn Finn Blue are some of the most ridiculously entertaining hockey players on the planet.

I was 7 years old when EDM joined the NHL and we got the occasional game on TV.

I wasn’t a hockey fan before this but watched the games with my family.

What hooked me on hockey wasn’t just Gretzky, it was a 5’8″ Finn playing D who was as wide as he was tall and drove pucks through the plexiglass when his shots missed the net.

There was no louder sound on the TV than when Risto Siltanen missed the net with his shot and it whether it hit the net or not, I watched the games waiting for Risto to unleash his slapshot.

It could go anywhere and often did.

When he scored it was glorious.

Love him to this day.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

I was too young to really appreciate Risto; Niinimaa was my Funn Finn Blue.

Traveller

When Risto started to wind up for a slapshot all the fans above the glass behind the net would start to duck. And I mean anywhere behind the net from corner to corner. This was in the days before the netting and even the glass itself was lower (only 5 feet above the boards). Surprising more people weren’t badly hurt. It probably helped that no one was sitting in the stands looking at their smart phone.

Scungilli Slushy

Congratulations LT, very happy for you and your fiance. And four leggers of course. A little late to the party, was in the idyllic community of St. Albert for a family thing, so everyone got a break from the conch

rev.hans

FYI: I, for one, and I’m pretty sure I’m in good company, would be OK with you taking a couple of mornings off to enjoy the post-nuptials.

Traveller

RIP Bernie Parent.

The two best NHL goalies of the 70’s passing within 15 days of each other. 7 consecutive cups between them.

Bernie was a legend with the Flyers but I still vividly remember the playoff game in ‘71 playing with the Leafs where, during a line brawl, his mask disappeared into the stands.

https://www.nhl.com/news/mystery-of-maple-leafs-bernie-parent-missing-mask-during-1971-playoffs

rev.hans

The only Flyer I ever liked. RIP Bernie. RIP Eddie. RIP Kenny. My 70s goalie heroes, fading…

Traveller

Wow, I had missed that Giacomin passed away last week. Three Hall of Fame goalies from that era gone in just over 2 weeks.

Ed had his best seasons in the late 60s through ‘71. Still stuck around through his mid to late 30s till ‘78.

Melvis

So the ear worm today happens to be Chapel of Love. Love all the new additions to the household…Alistair (my Allie Cat agrees). Congrats on a whole new chapter in your life!

Mayan Oil

Nine is always Mark Cohn’s True Companion in these situatios! God that song hits home for me!

winchester

This is the time of year when I look at the roster and the summer work and ask the question “is it enough?”

The forward group, I don’t love it. I’m hoping for the potential to emerge, I like the attempt to get younger, but it always seems to come up a touch short with an over reliance on the big guns.

Why can’t they ever seem to come up with some fast demon like for checkers that have no quit in them? They are out there and they’re not that expensive.

One of the problems is they run out of money and that’s just the way it is when you’re top heavy. I’m sure McDavid knows this in this part of his contract thoughts. It is the evolution of a winning team and a puzzle to solve.

The defence is very good. Absolutely it is enough and right now. They need a few depths pieces. It would be nice if they had some youngsters coming along. They have a few, but I don’t see any of your top four pair.

I think they have enough in goal. Like any player you can always get better, or upgrade. But there are limitations were all aware of this and I think they do have enough.

Sounds like the trade deadline is gonna be difficult to get quick fixes to fill roster deficiencies. Certainly sounds that way.

I said I don’t love the boards. It doesn’t mean I don’t like them. Of course we’ve got some excellent players. Can they maintain their level of play? And can the supporting cast ad instead of take away.?

I do hope there is one last piece out there. A waiver wire steal, a last-minute trade where we get another Podkolzin.

So all in, pretty good summer. Except for one big darn contract problem, one right winger with a questionable hand, and the toll of a million bumps and bruises can take on a team.

Congratulations to you and your new bride LT. Thanks for keeping up your blog through everything else you have going on.

kellen

Congrats on the wedding LT!

yeraslob

Hey, look who’s a married man again!
Congrats and best wishes LT.
The start of a new chapter, here we go (or here you go, but we’re all cheering for you)…
…day one

Tarkus

In yesterday’s piece from The Other Nuge about the new Oilers goalie coach Peter Aubry, there was this interesting item:

Aubry appreciates the efforts Skinner has taken, which included cutting out sugar, to be prepared for a season in which he wants to not only win the Stanley Cup but also make Canada’s Olympic team.

I can attest that cutting out sugar does indeed cause weight loss, while also improving mental clarity. A thinner Skinner with sharper focus is intriguing.

judgedrude

So, you think a thinner Skinner’s a winner?

Tarkus

If he can limit what he has for dinner, the Oilers won’t need to acquire Binner.

Victoria Oil

LOL

Mayan Oil

Thinner Skinner, Chicken Dinner!!!

OriginalPouzar

Cutting out sugar could lead to weight loss by cutting out the calories (and, of course, calories with little value that will lead to very little satiation and quick hunger leading to more calories).

Skinner lost weight because he burned more calories than he consumed.

Reja

This should improve his lateral movement which is probably why he lost the weight.

OriginalPouzar

The Hyman injury likely saves Janmark’s roster spot to start (if they put him on LTIR).

I wish we would see Jarventie play with some more NHL talent. I think they might try and send him down early, would that reduce waive claim risk?

I do think Max Jones sees games – based on him doing absolutely nothing for 17 straight games last year, I don’t know why. Just like me, the org likely values what he could be but, unfortunately, even with plus skating, shot, size, etc., he is NOT that player. The Oilers had a need for exactly the player he could be last year, he has an amazing opportunity, did nothing. He is who he is and he’s not an NHL player for this team. He’ll still see games.

OriginalPouzar

I’m also interested in seeing Stuart Skinner’s new look. If he can bring back the numbers from his rookie season, perhaps the Oilers solve a problem in-house. A big season for Skinner, possibly his final one with the team.

50 games of a 0.914 for Skinner (plus similar in the playoffs) would do a couple of things:

1) bring the Oilers Stanley; and

2) create mayhem among the fanbase when he’s re-signed for a Dostal contract.

I hope he has a solid season for many reasons – he doesn’t deserve the vitriol he receives from much of the fanbase, as a player or a person.

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Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR

Ziggy is thriving in her new role as the house Esa Tikkanen.” Literally choked on my coffee when I read this!! Hilarious!!

Mayan Oil

Tikki was one of the most amusing players I remember! It was side splitting watching him baffle both teammates and opponents with his Tikkanese. Even the other Finnish players got distracted by his antics. Priceless!

Mayan Oil

It is why handle here used to be Turning Tikkanese!