2021-22 Game Nine: Predators at Oilers

by Lowetide

The addition of Zach Hyman to the Edmonton Oilers roster was obvious early, and his boxcars (6-2-8 in eight games) early in 2021-22 are outstanding. Hyman’s five on five totals are less impressive, but it’s a small sample size and things change. How far out are Hyman’s numbers compared to last season? What areas should we expect to regress?

THE ATHLETIC!

WHAT TO EXPECT IN NOVEMBER

  • At home to: SEA, NAS, NYR (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • On the road to: DET, BOS, BUF, STL, WPG (Expected 3-2-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: WPG, CHI (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: DAL, ARI, VEG (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 8-5-0, 16 points in 13 games
  • Actual November results: 1-0-0, two points in one game
  • Oilers in 2021-22: 7-1-0, 14 points in eight games

I had a couple of comments on my prediction for November from posters over the last couple of days, thinking my prediction came in on the low side. I’m intrigued by this team, and we’ll have a far better idea about them by the end of this month. My prediction would land Edmonton with a record of 14-6-0, 28 points in 20 games and on a trajectory for 115 points. I have no problem with projecting it, because there are tougher months ahead. Predicting 15-5-0 or 16-4-0? That’s a bridge too far for me, but you are welcome to make your own projections. For me, I’m comfortably uncomfortable with 14-6-0.

ZACH HYMAN OVER THREE YEARS

There’s no reason to be concerned and there’s no reason to believe Hyman will score about 10 goals per hour on the power play. An increase in five on five points-60, and a little better shot share might be expected. This is a fine player, and an excellent player card.

WARREN FOEGELE OVER THREE YEARS

Foegele is right on track offensively, actually a little ahead with the power-play goal. Shot and expected goals percentage right in the range. Like Hyman, he is delivering on expectations.

DEREK RYAN OVER THREE YEARS

Ryan is behind by a couple of assists five on five but that’s not a big deal. The shot and expected goal numbers are fine and there isn’t much power-play time coming his way this season. After 20 games, we’ll look at goal differential at five on five.

DUNCAN KEITH OVER THREE YEARS

Keith has delivered expected results, with the exception of five on five goals (60 percent) and expected goals (52 percent). Regression seems likely in both cases, although Keith’s early performances in Edmonton have a Kris Russell ‘outscoring his Corsi’ vibe.

CODY CECI OVER THREE YEARS

Offensively, Ceci is what was expected, the 2020-21 season being an outlier. His actual five on five goal differential is running out of time with the possession stats, so that might sag as time goes on. It’s worth mentioned he had the same statistical disconnect last season, so maybe he’s a member of the Russell family too.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A busy morning as we tee up the Predators-Oilers game tonight. At 10:20, Bruce McCurdy from the Cult of Hockey at the Edmonton Journal will join us for the Oilers side. At 10:40, Paul Skrbina from The Tennessean will tell us how the Preds can be as loose as Crazy Horse at the Fillmore in 1970 and still win a hockey game last night in Calgary. At 11, Joe Osborne from OddsShark will discuss the 2022 World Series favourites after the Braves win. We’ll also have an Oilers Crossfire! at 11:20. 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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PennersPancakes

Before anyone gets excited, I’m sure last nights win doesnt actually count following a long line of deceiving and unsatisfactory wins.

  • Canucks: No playoffs last year so despite loading up this year doesnt count.
  • Flames: See above.
  • Ducks: Bad teams arent allowed to win games even if theyre above the Canucks.
  • Coyotes: Okay a historically bad team.
  • Knights: have injuries doesnt count.
  • Canucks Again: Still suffering from the HH curse
  • Kraken: Off night where their weaponized curse didnt show up. Also they didnt even make the playoffs last year. /s

And finally last nights Predators team. They made the playoffs last year! But they do have a single skater injured and played the night before. Sorry guys, doesnt count, HH was right.

None of the Oilers wins actually count so I will petition the leage to have their record adjusted to 0-1-0.

defensiveliability

I’m just here to see how this win somehow means the Oilers are actually a bad team.

Or why this win doesn’t count as a full 2 points.

jp

Ryan/LT, FYI the issue with the ‘load more comments’ button re-loading the same set of comments repeatedly has NOT been fixed.

hunter1909

Oilers used to get played by star players if in case anyone remembers.

Flames were played by Eichel who was never serious abut Calgary who now feel like total losers lmao

Tarkus

Pending a trade call, looks like Eichel is off to Sin City:

https://www.tsn.ca/buffalo-sabres-jack-eichel-vegas-golden-knights-1.1716133

If the deal is as reported, that doesn’t seem like much of a return for Buffalo.

One would think, with both Eichel and Tuch being gimped, there would be some conditions tacked on too…

Coilers2021

Only time will tell on that if Buffalo didn’t get the return they should have. You’re absolutely right in that there should be some conditions attached to all this but what could they be? Conditional picks?

PennersPancakes

I dont like this trade. Knights have had everything except a true #1 center, now they picked up an elite one (as long as the surgery goes well). Heres hoping father time catches up to Patches, Pietrangelo, Stone.

No idea how the cap logistics work next season, they have 4 players combined for 35.3 million, Smith is gone but theres gotta be another casualty.

Bank Shot

Oilers are first in goals per game. The 80s are back baby! 😛

Koskinen has been exceptional this season. Good to see the bounce back, and glad Holland didn’t panic and blow a bunch of assets in the offseason on a goalie of equal calibre.

Harpers Hair

Kings win their 3rd straight with a 3-2 shootout victory over the STL Blues who were previously 6-1.

Crazy Pedestrian

Man. You really don’t care if the oilers are winning do you? Still as anti-oiler as ever. I bet that even if the Oilers won the cup you would still say that it doesn’t count because they “won against an inferior opponent”.

Bank Shot

Just give the man some of the attention he so desperately craves…

PennersPancakes

The Kings after a 3 game winning streak are still 4-5-1. No one cares.

Munny 2.0

Here’s the bison sighting… Check out the fan in the first row right behind Shore, wearing an Oilers scarf, a Suomi jersey and a Bison head. Would’ve had a good view of Pujo’s EN’er too…

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Munny 2.0

Apparently Jesse liked the bison king so much he coughed up a pair of sweetass seats so the king could attend a game…

Bank Shot

Man in a buffalo head is the best part of this game. haha

ChupaCabra

What happens to Jesse when we play Buffalo??

OriginalPouzar

While not necessarily a “skill”, durability is an attribute that contributes to the value of a player. Not only do guys like Darnell Nurse and Leon Draisaitl play big big minutes nightly they do so every damn game

Oilerguy

Think Yessa will end up being very durable too

Oilerguy

Hip injury aside

kgogshig

Not sure that classifies as an injury, didn’t he have both hips repaired? sounds like a congenital issue

hunter1909

I thought the game was forgettable right up until the 3-1 goal then when it was 4-1 the Oilers just looked infinitely superior to the Nashville NHL team… and then it was party time

TheGreatBigMac

Yea Nashville was on the end of a back-to-back so might have been a bit gassed in the 3rd.

Oilerguy

Mentioned to my Father tonight that they sure are easy to watch this season so far. They got the Tampa and top 3 team feel to them during games.

who

Exactly the way I saw it. The Oilers actually looked pretty bad for the first 2 periods.

hunter1909

The team is 1st in the Western Conference.

Enjoy complaining lol

Munny 2.0

Trying to get an image of the guy wearing the Suomi jersey and the bison head in the stands but YouTube isn’t giving up the video very quickly, the bastards…

Admiral Ackbar

That game felt a lot closer than the score suggests. This team still has trouble against hard-nose grinding disciplined teams. Love the win. Keep improving.

hunter1909

With 31 opponents it’s pretty safe to assume some of them will be able to stymie the Oilers on any given night.

Oilerguy

Some but not many haha

OriginalPouzar

Jason Gregor
@JasonGregor
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8m
Two scoring changes…
Barrie assist removed on Shore goal so Barrie remains at 399 career points.

Puljujarvi assist on Draisaitl’s second goal has been awarded to Nurse. 

OriginalPouzar

Nuge on pace for 118 points this season and the post-game presser was pretty much about him slumping….. haha.

hunter1909

0-118 : )

Reja

I can’t see them bringing up Tkachuk name unless this deal was darn tooting close.

Admiral Ackbar

Eichel vs McPrecious 6-7x/yr would be glorious.

Elgin R

Jack is a really good player and will make VGK a better team when he returns. However, both 97 and 29 are better players and the Oilers are a better team and younger at the skill positions. VGK have maybe 3 years to win a cup then it is rebuild time. Their problem is that the Oilers are better right now. Love watching Jack play but he will not win a cup in Vegas.

OriginalPouzar

Ryan Rishaug
@TSNRyanRishaug
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6m
“I love watching other guys score, it’s my favourite thing… …I thought he had a better angle.”
Draisaitl on passing off to Puljujarvi for the open net as opposed to putting it in for the hat trick.

Bulging Twine

awesome

Shane

Did they take away Puljujarvi’s assist?
It was up on the nhl website but it’s gone now..

Munny 2.0

Avs with two Empty netters to tie up CBJ

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Harpers Hair

Under rated Bowen Byram with 2G 1A.

CBJ win 5-4 in OT.

Side

Both teams are in a lose-lose situation. If the Avalanche would have won it wouldn’t have mattered since Columbus didn’t make the playoffs last year.

And since the Avalanche are a western team which is weaker compared to the East, Columbus’ win means nothing.

Nobody won that game tonight.

Harpers Hair

You forgot Colorado was playing without their best 2D…Makar and Toews.

hunter1909

Ha ha Oilers running away with the Conference in November.

Excuses from 15 other Conference team’s bullshit walks.

OriginalPouzar

One negative: I’m not sure Kris Russell is really playable at 5 on 5.

flyfish1168

How is Sammy doing since coming back? is he getting close to being up to speed and ready for a call up?

OriginalPouzar

First game was meh but he was very good this past weekend in both games.

I don’t imagine management calls him up after 3 games – i think he’ll be down there for at least a month, if not three, before Holland thinks about it (unless injuries pile up).

Truth be told, it would probably be Niemelainen that would get the call (which is INSANE considering where we were with him like 10 months ago).

Munny 2.0

Wonder if they’ll tell the Vish Throttler story at the ceremony? Maybe they should invite Dennis King…

hunter1909

I hope he’s happy.

The team is currently approaching 1970 Boston Bruins level and the old Vish Throttler/MacT partnership might yet turn out to be told around the hockey campfires for years to come.

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Harpers Hair

I hope he’s hoisted up…inside his jersey.

hunter1909

lol why? You usually portray yourself as a fair minded fan of no team in particular.

jm363561

Ryan 8/11 on the dot, Shore 6/10. Mikko 93.8%. Screwed up 2 on 1s – lots. Hyman snakebit. Keith surprisingly risky in his distribution around the net. Good performance over the three periods after a slow start against a disappointing Predator team. Drai in Beast mode – monster performance. Louie DeBrusk – man, can that guy waffle.

hunter1909

In the end I turned on the radio feed and enjoyed not having to listen

Numenius

After Remenda, I can’t complain about Louie.

Reja

The Reverse Engineer he’s washing the San Jose Jerseys by hand as we speak.

OriginalPouzar

Kudos to Mikko – very solid tonight – out to challenge shooters, gobbling up pucks without rebounds, etc.

hunter1909

He seems like when he gets 5 minutes of the game without too much drama he settles down well.

Reja

Nice to see Devon get off the schneid

OriginalPouzar

Jason Gregor
@JasonGregor
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1m
Draisaitl with his 20th point…In the 9th game of season.

Last players to do that were Lemieux and Jagr in 1996. #NHL

theDjdj

Drai has a little bit of Jagr about him, hey. A few years back the lazy comparison was Crosby and Malkin but the longer this duo continue the closer they resemble Lemieux and Jagr. Long way off those two, no doubt, but I can’t help but feel we’re watching two of the best in many years. Perhaps McDavid is floating the tide a little idk. Either way, feel very lucky and privileged to watch.

hunter1909

Jean Beliveau.

They both are big, hold the puck at will and are ethically superior players next to the rest of their team mates

: p

Munny 2.0

Has Brian Burke received his invitation to Friday night’s ceremony yet?

Ice Sage

i believe it’s in the sewer?

Munny 2.0

Behind the barn door…

Reja

I would put my house on the line that Lowe would drop him in 2 punches.

Durag

Oh man, I’m paying the scalpers whatever they’re asking if there’s a barn fight in lieu of speeches.

Munny 2.0

Yeah, I would too.

OriginalPouzar

Given the circumstances, with Nashville playing last night and their back-up in net, the Oilers probably only deserve, what, 0.75 of a one point for this win…… slightly less than the flames got for their loss last night.

delooper

Is there an official website so we can look up what every team deserves for their points? Apparently there needs to be an official points exchange.

OriginalPouzar
fishman

OP funny!!

90s fan

Oh man I was hoping you actually had a website devoted to this….

OriginalPouzar

That would be some Carolina Hurricane level shit…

DevilsLettuce

Worth noting…

It’s 0.72 of one point, hidden fees.

OriginalPouzar

Nice.

tcho

It’s funny – he doesn’t spout off so much anymore about Dallas, and (more recently) Los Angeles.

Reja

Believe it or not he was on the Coyotes wagon a few years ago.

Harpers Hair

See the KIngs 3rd straight win above.

delooper

Hyman is a much better player than I was expecting.

godot10

Imagine if he could finish.

Reja

If he keeps going to the net he will score 30-33 Goals.

Side

I know people are happy about the Oilers win but remember.. Nashville’s loss puts them at 0.500. I know Nashville made it into the playoffs last year but, they play in the West. And they played last night. And the Oilers scored on the PP. Therefore, this win shouldn’t be counted.

fishman

So whats the weather like in Calgary???

Side

Forecast is cloudy with a chance of Flames tears once they trade their pics and a third of their team for Eichel.

fishman

Ha Ha! Actually love to see Turtle out of our division. Hate that guy.

Reja

I can’t remember the last player waiting for a trade so he can have a Surgery. It’s Bizarre!

Side

Totally. Would be very weird if Calgary gave up a kings ransom for Eichel, potentially throwing away their season while they are 2nd in the division in hopes of Eichel having a full and speedy recovery.

Someone

If we’re discounting wins against inferior opposition, at this point, how many teams actually count anymore?

I suspect the rubber may hit the road soon.

Side

It’s hard to say. I am still trying to process all of the logic around determining who is a good team. Nashville was considered a good team prior to tonight because they were over 0.500 and made the playoffs last year.. but now that they lost and are 0.500, I guess they are terrible.

But, if Nashville had won then the Oilers would be terrible because Nashville plays in the West, you see. But Nashville would be even more over 0.500 AND they made the playoffs last year so they become basically the best team in the conference.. I think..

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Someone

I follow, it really is simple once the goalposts get a little wider. It’s always good to have someone around to explain these things when the Oilers win.

tcho

Ah, but did the win? Did they really?

hunter1909

Thank you for the insight.

theDjdj

Drai trying to stave off his team mate for Art Ross

Material Elvis

Draisaitl is such a beauty. When he’s playing his A game, he’s the most complete player in the NHL.

hunter1909

Tonight he was better than McD.

There. I said it.

flyfish1168

That was a dangerous hit on Connor

tcho

Incredibly dangerous. He basically piled into his knee and you could see it bend weirdly. I really hope he’s not hurt.

hunter1909

He is becoming a master at avoiding this type of stuff.

Already he has modified his lightning attack on net rookie game for something slightly less dangerous. From my experience in physical contact activities it looked like nothing happened because he twisted himself out of the check …I think

€√¥£€^$

And it was his left knee… I can’t lie, my heart was in my throat watching the replay.

Reja

Leon is a class act. Or maybe he wanted to be the NHL leader in points

hunter1909

He runs his line like he’s their Daddy. He’s practically the Daddy of the entire NHL

No one gets left behind with big Neon Leon

Munny 2.0

29 would rather get 13 going. What a team

Lucinius

Need to get the empty netter, settle this. Don’t want to risk anything.

Lucinius

My feed is definitely behind the rest of you, haha.

OriginalPouzar

Jesse with his second point of the night.

Drai with an apple as well as McDavid.

Lucinius

You sure it’s his second of the night? NHL.com’s boxscore still doesn’t have him with an assist on Drai’s second goal.

OriginalPouzar

Nugent-Bowman said they added it – NHL.com is probably just behind.

Lucinius

They just added it, so yeah, two points for Jesse. Which he needed after a couple games without a point. No one in the top six is currently struggling. Rare we get to say that. Won’t last (it rarely does, regardless of team), but nice to be able to say it.

theDjdj

Think Bouch got the 2nd a

OriginalPouzar

Yup, I originally thought it went from McDavid, on his stomach, to Drai but Bouch was in there.

Tarkus

Puljujarvi with the dagger!

fishman

Jesse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

theDjdj

Team got a bit too cute with their chances on net I think. Tip needs to have a chat about putting a team to boot.

RandyRanderson

Just imagine the firepower once Jesse, Zach and Ryan get going

Ice Sage

Aint over yet, Oil gotta bear down

fishman

Yep its over.

Reja

Brings the empty netter by Leon back into play

Munny 2.0

Well Leon had somethig to say about that thought, lol

tapper

Bouch and Nurse leading the rush, just like in beer league. ‘Defense’ just means where you should stand for face-offs.

Off-topic but, how many games will Oilers get more than 4 PPs this year?

Derek

I couldn’t tell you, but I bet 90 percent of them will come in games where they are also behind on the scoreboard.

Reja

Only talented teams like Calgary and Vancouver are rewarded with 6PP games.

Gonzo

Is this like 6 or maybe even 7 of the 9 games we have recieved scoring support from the 3rd and 4th lines. Still early in the season but I hope that’s a trend that continues.

Oil2Oilers

Hyman could easily have a hat trick tonight. What is beyond high danger scoring chances.

Munny 2.0

Hy-man danger scoring chances.

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OriginalPouzar

Truth be told, Hyman effed that shot up – shot towards the middle of the net.

fishman

Needs to hang around Yamo!!!!!

Munny 2.0

Hyman is going to end this year wondering how he didn’t score 50

OriginalPouzar

That is the 2nd highlight of the year type save by Ingram – both on Hyman.

Munny 2.0

think they would have learned to shoot against this team by now

OriginalPouzar

I’m highly confident that McDavid would have scored if he would have shot there, and I think he knows that as well…. trying to get Jesse a goal.