2019-20 Preseason Game 7: Oilers at Flames

by Lowetide

It was my hope that the Edmonton Oilers would arrive at the final game of the preseason with the roster fairly set. Alas, it was not to be. I believe we know who is going to stay (give or take one or two) but the opening night lineup is some vague and even the lines are late coming into view. At least the defense is set. Probably.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, we are celebrating our 2-year anniversary this week. To mark the occasion, you can get 40% off subscriptions here.

  • New Lowetide: Jay Woodcroft’s Bakersfield Condors might be bound for glory
  • New Jonathan Willis: Ethan Bear, Tomas Jurco outshine the competition in second-to-last Oilers preseason game
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Joakim Nygard managing his anger as he eyes spot on Oilers.
  • Jonathan Willis: Assessing the Oilers’ roster as the final positional battles are sorted out
  • Jonathan Willis: Oilers cut Evan Bouchard and Shane Starrett. Is Ethan Bear on the cusp of making the team?
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ bottom-six forwards, penalty kill shine in loss to Arizona Coyotes
  • Lowetide: Injuries and prospects: A brief Oilers history of devastating derailments
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Connor McDavid’s nearing return and four other things we’ve learned from Oilers camp
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: How five months in Kelowna changed Leon Draisaitl’s hockey career
  • Lowetide: Matt Benning may be vulnerable to a trade as Ken Holland works to tweak Oilers roster
  • Lowetide: Three players who helped their Oilers hopes and three who didn’t do enough to separate in Edmonton’s fourth preseason game
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Dreadful showing means several Oilers players are on the chopping block with cuts looming
  • Jonathan Willis: How quickly must the Oilers’ top AHL prospects claim NHL jobs before they become suspect?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: McDavid and more: Five thoughts through the first week of Oilers camp
  • Lowetide: Why Kailer Yamamoto’s delayed training camp may benefit his Oilers career
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Q&A: Brandon Manning on how his contract is hurting him, proving his worth at camp and being a mentor
  • Jonathan Willis: Four players who helped, three who hurt their Oilers hopes in Edmonton’s second preseason game
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: How an offseason adding more pop in his stick and skates has James Neal primed for first Oilers season
  • Lowetide: A big night for Oilers defencemen Joel Persson, William Lagesson and Evan Bouchard
  • Lowetide: Handicapping Oilers prospect progress: The development of Ethan Bear, Caleb Jones and William Lagesson
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Eight key questions for the Oilers to solve at training camp
  • Jonathan Willis: Predicting the winners of the Oilers’ top-six and top-nine forward jobs out of camp
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: In, out or on the bubble: Breaking down positional battles at Oilers camp
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Alex Chiasson prepares to return to scoring form for Edmonton Oilers
  • Jonathan Willis: Oilers’ defensive hopes will rest on the new shutdown pair of Darnell Nurse and Adam Larsson
  • Jonathan Willis: How much money will Darnell Nurse make on his next NHL contract?
  • Corey Pronman: Oilers No. 9 farm system.
  • Lowetide: Oilers top 20 prospects summer 2019.

LOWETIDE OPENING NIGHT PROJECTION (SEPT. 10)

  • Leon Draisaitl—Connor McDavid—Zack Kassian
  • James Neal—Ryan Nugent-Hopkins—Alex Chiasson
  • Jujhar Khaira—Riley Sheahan—Josh Archibald
  • Markus Granlund—Gaetan Haas—Sam Gagner
  • Joakim Nygard, Colby Cave
  • Darnell Nurse—Adam Larsson
  • Oscar Klefbom—Joel Persson
  • Kris Russell—Matt Benning
  • Caleb Jones
  • Mikko Koskinen (Mike Smith)

I posted these lines before training camp, looks like the lines will be different but most of the roster players are the same. The only one of my picks who won’t be on the opening night roster is Caleb Jones. There are several question marks (Granlund, Haas, Cave, Nygard) and of course Joel Persson is hurt.

POSSIBLE OPENING NIGHT ROSTER

  • Leon Draisaitl—Connor McDavid—Zack Kassian
  • Tomas Jurco—Ryan Nugent-Hopkins—James Neal
  • Jujhar Khaira—Riley Sheahan—Josh Archibald
  • Alex Chiasson—Gaetan Haas—Sam Gagner
  • Markus Granlund, Joakim Nygard
  • Darnell Nurse—Adam Larsson
  • Oscar Klefbom—Ethan Bear
  • Kris Russell—Matt Benning
  • William Lagesson
  • Mikko Koskinen (Mike Smith)
  • IR: Joel Persson

Coach Dave Tippett was looking at unicorns (centers three) yesterday in practice, I welcome it but also can’t see splitting up 97-29 and giving Nuge the No. 5 and No. 6 wingers in this group and expecting 50 points.

One of the things we should follow this year is the offensive output of Kailer Yamamoto, Tyler Benson and Cooper Marody. Coach Tippett is trying to find goals among the roster players in Edmonton, and maybe he uncovers a gem. The kids on the farm can win the day by filling the nets in California. Kirill Maksimov had a tremendous game, scoring two SH goals. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves here but that was a damned exciting start to preseason in the AHL!

KEN HOLLAND AND WAIVERS

I don’t think the Oilers will claim Tristan Jarry or Eric Comrie, but it’s worth considering. Those two names haven’t yet appeared on the waiver wire but something’s gotta give in the coming days.

The Leafs are placing Pontus Aberg, Tyler Gaudet, Ben Harpur and Jordan Schmaltz on waivers today at 10am our time. Schmaltz is a first-round pick by St. Louis in 2012, he’s a bigger man with good offensive and puck moving ability. Oilers don’t need him but he could be plucked off waivers by an NHL team.

I think Holland would love a scoring winger or a RH center, sometimes manna falls from heaven this time of year. Chris Kunitz was on waivers once upon a time, it can happen. Stay tuned.

284 comments
0

You may also like

0 0 vote
Article Rating
284 Comments
Oldest
Newest Most Voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Pouzar

Only preseason but the BAK is stacked.

That pass to Max for the SH goal by “No Hands” McLeod was sublime.

hunter1909

WORDS CANNOT DESCRIBE HOW HARD IT IS TO TYPE THIS OUT EVERY DAY(ok so it’s really just a cut + paste job)

Hunter1909’s Official 2019-20 Death March™

Entries welcome between now and the first puck drop of the 2019-20 season(October 2)

Here’s how you play: Guess how many points the Oilers get in the regular season.

That’s it!

Tie break: How many regular season goals does JP score for his new Finnish team?

Bling

You wonder if guys like Maksimov and McLeod will have easier an easier transition to the pros based on their quality two way play and skating.

These guys aren’t Rob Schremp and Peter Sarno.

Jethro Tull

Pontus Aberg on waivers, eh? Fancy that. Of only he was played with McDavid as a pump and dump.

drglen

I’m with you in having Haas making the team.

Gagner in line on 4th line is an interesting prediction and probably right. He can be moved to the PB without much fuss, .. Nygg can rotate in..

Burdy can be extended on PTO for practices only for a couple weeks if hes’ into it.. . never know, injuries happen too. He could also have a monster game tonight.

Kass can move up and down, CHais can move up and down, Neal can move around, Jurco can move around.. .. it could be a very fluid lineup.

Woogie63

We know what we are going to get from Gagner, Granlund and Cave.

Pick your choice for the 13 and 14 forward, move the other guy to the AHL team and don’t look back.

OriginalPouzar

This is it – Nygard, Haas, Burdasov, Granlund, Lagesson – you want to not only be on the team but be in the opening night lineup, you best make a material positive impact tonight.

Will McDavid play? I kind of doubt it but maybe.’

Will we see three centers and, if so, more importantly, will we see that on Wed?

All summer Tippett has talked about McDavid/Drai and Nuge/Neal as pairs, maybe its Jurco/McDavid/Neal?

Come on Mikko, give the fans some real confidence!

Jethro Tull

This just in:

If you pick better players and play them and get rid of the crappy players, you stand a better chance of winning.

Seems like sucking eggs, but it’s something this team has struggled with since forever.

Profit

hunter1909,

Ok Hunter I’m ready to go

91 pts
Pulu with 14

v4ance

Interesting story on Ralph Kreuger’s approach to the new powerplay tactics in Buffalo:https://www.diebytheblade.com/2019/9/28/20887461/new-look-power-play-shows-early-signs-of-promise-for-the-buffalo-sabres-ralph-krueger

Pescador

Jethro Tull:
This just in:

If you pick better players and play them and get rid of the crappy players, you stand a better chance of winning.

Seems like sucking eggs, but it’s something this team has struggled with since forever.

Are you referring to any roster moves specifically, or are you just shaking your fist at the sky?

Durag

Claim Pontus!!

Bauer83

94 pts 8 goals

OriginalPouzar

From watching Yamamoto’s progression to be an elite AHL player in his 27 games last year, a true driver of offensive scoring chances, I have full confidence that he will produce at a PPG pace (give or take) this season (as he would have last year) and will then put himself in the conversation for the Oilers top or middle six next season – maybe a cup of coffee this season but we’ll see how it goes.

2 SH goals for Maksimov last night.

Currie and Joe G. with beat downs.

Benson with some filthy sauce set up.

Sammy on the scoresheet!

Great exhibition game for the Condors last night.

Pescador

hunter1909,

90 pts.
15 G’s.
I’m donating to your deathmarch site so I better win this year,
Thanks Hunter1909

flyfish1168

v4ance:
Interesting story on Ralph Kreuger’s approach to the new powerplay tactics in Buffalo:https://www.diebytheblade.com/2019/9/28/20887461/new-look-power-play-shows-early-signs-of-promise-for-the-buffalo-sabres-ralph-krueger

Ralph is given a great opportunity to succeed here. I’m cheering for him

pts2pndr

Woogie63:
We know what we are going to get from Gagner, Granlund and Cave.

Pick your choice for the 13 and 14 forward, move the other guy to the AHL team and don’t look back.

Cave is a replacement level player who should be put on waivers in my opinion. The other two are at least NHL players.

Jethro Tull

Pescador: Are you referring to any roster moves specifically, or are you just shaking your fist at the sky?

Well, it’s my fist and the sky is largely public domain, so…..

The (I read it here, can’t remember whom) “Sea of Sheahans” is why the roster isn’t set. Most teams have, at most, a couple of jobs on the bubble.

We have literally one player who is a lock for his position; Connor McDavid, #1 center.

We’re NOT sure who:
Starts in net.
Top D pairing
2nd D pairing
3rd D pairing
#7 D
McDavid’s wingers
2nd Line
Entire Bottom six
Who took the last cup of coffee and didn’t put a fresh pot on and left their dirty dishes in the sink.

Now, the actual results of the preseason games are irrelevant, largely, but those guys never like to lose.

I think Dave has been trying to sift through what he’s been given. I just hope he gets a few nice presents from Ken next off-season.

OriginalPouzar

To follow up on a conversation from last night, I’m somewhat confident that the players in the AHL get nutrition and fitness training and consulting and I would guess training in those area are also part of development camp, etc.

It would seem that seeing a legit NHL top 6 d-man, a man in his early 30s making $5.5M putting in a level of work and decication to get back to the best league in the world – has a material impact as well.

chrisco stu

Hey hunter, thanks for doing this again. Chalk me up for a third in the pacific 97 points, and 13 for young Jesse.

Jethro Tull

Bauer83:
94 pts 8 goals

Pontus should have been signed to a bridge deal…..

Professor Q

Man, Calgary is really beefing and gooning up even more.

Zach Rinaldo and Andrew MacDonald likely going to get contracts.

They really, really don’t like us.

dustrock

Professor Q:
Man, Calgary is really beefing and gooning up even more.

Zach Rinaldo and Andrew MacDonald likely going to get contracts.

They really, really don’t like us.

Think there’s still an old school element in the Flames organization (Lucic trade etc) and I have no doubt that they took the wrong lessons from the Bruins Blues Cup Final.

Jethro Tull

Professor Q:
Man, Calgary is really beefing and gooning up even more.

Zach Rinaldo and Andrew MacDonald likely going to get contracts.

They really, really don’t like us.

Good, gooood.

They didn’t lose in the playoffs due to “lack of toughness”.

Let them go after unskilled goons. They’ll have to bank heavily on Gio being ageless and Gaudreau and Monahan dominating.

dustrock

Jethro Tull,

I agree. Too many bottom 6 contracts handed out. We all knew on this blog Nygard, Haas et al wouldn’t be competing for top 6 spots.

I’d prefer to keep the faster and slightly more skilled guys in Haas and Nygard. Hard to argue with Cave’s work ethic but I agree with LT, he has hands of stone. Granlund shouldn’t have been given a deal in the first place but as a UFA signing he’s making the team.

OriginalPouzar

Puljujarvi pots has 2nd of the season to put powerhouse Karpat up 4-0.

drglen

Jethro Tull,

too much loyalty.

drglen

Professor Q,

I didn’t watch the calgary series last spring,.. but did Johnny G and Monohan kind of disappear? Were they ‘intimidated’… so our skill players will be less interfered with and hacked at if true and present danger of physical repercussions is present. ..

My feeling is that generally this approach doesn’t work well.

drglen

Jethro Tull,

Pontus would be ideal as a finisher on MacDavid’s line. We should grab him quick.

Jethro Tull

drglen:
Professor Q,

I didn’t watch the calgary series last spring,.. but did Johnny G and Monohan kind of disappear? Were they ‘intimidated’… so our skill players will be less interfered with and hacked at if true and present danger of physical repercussions is present. ..

My feeling is that generally this approach doesn’t work well.

Having Lucic et Al did absolutely nothing to stop the cheap shot merchants.

Jethro Tull

drglen:
Jethro Tull,

Pontus would be ideal as a finisher on MacDavid’s line.We should grab him quick.

Sorry, it was a very bad Latin joke, the root of bridge is pontum.

And it’s been tried.

blainer

Just curious .. Is there anyone of those depth signings that could really surprise the fan base.

My spidey senses tell me that Jurco could have a Patrick Maroon kind of year if he is on CMD’s wing.

After that I don’t see anyone of the new signings doing much to help other than maybe Sheahan and Archie on the PK.. Although that could be huge if they don’t give it back 5on5..

I really don’t want to see Gags or Granlund even near the team ..JMO..

Material Elvis

drglen:
Jethro Tull,

Pontus would be ideal as a finisher on MacDavid’s line.We should grab him quick.

For sure. Get him while we can. Guys like that aren’t put on waivers very often. This could be our only chance to get a 1RW for free…

Stud Muffin

Nic Petan is a guy I’m looking at who could hit waivers, that’s a player who has more offence to give imo.

drglen

I’m waiting for winter tires… so watching Dynamo Moscow vs SKA ( St. Petersberg) ..

Anton Belov is D for SKA.. Yakupov is on this team. On powerplay, but nobody will pass to him.. but it seems that he’s just standing still sort of in the slot, at a distance where if someone passed to him, it would be checked or turned over… .

Jori Lehtera still playing. David Rundblad, got in some NHL years with ottaw, phoenix, and chicago.

SKA up 3 1 pretty good hockey. edit they win 4-1

say, in KHL.. the players line up and shake hands at center ice after every game. There’s something cool about that.

drglen

blainer,

Gagne’s play has not deserved demotion in any way, Granland .. nobody even knows about. I think they’re going to give them 5-8 games to play their way off the roster. Gagne will accept NBA style ‘rest days’.. also.

drglen

Jethro Tull,

lol…. very good.. very good. Two free coffees for you this morning… .. too fast for me ha ha

drglen

Jethro Tull,

yes, especially when we played his pool barbeque party friends in LA.. … no doubt he’s tough, but I seem to recall him going after the wrong players, at nothing times in the game, for no purpose at all, .. having done nothing earlier in the game when his presence was needed.

Neal for Lucic is 8 more points in the standings, … say you score on 1 of 10 fast breakouts ( ok made that up) .. so instead of 82 games where Lucic kills 5 fast breakouts so they don’t happen.. this year.. those breakouts will actually happen.. say 5 more times a game.. ( Ok maybe 4 because of Chris Russell).. anyway.. ah.. er.. thats 1 extra goal every two games…. I’m going to say that’s worth 6 points to 8 points in the standings. winning close games that Lucic would have lost for us. There ya go, can’t argue with hard science.

Material Elvis

OriginalPouzar:
Puljujarvi pots has 2nd of the season to put powerhouse Karpat up 4-0.

Was difficult to tell if it went in off of JP’s skate or the other team’s defenseman’s skate. A lucky bounce for him, anyway.

camelwalking

hunter… thanks for doing the dirty work. and the clean work. 87 points and 12 goals

Bohologo

I just want to remind everyone here this is a hockey (and sometimes music and whisky) blog, so please take elsewhere your discussion of the upcoming in three hours World Track and Field Championships men’s 100 meter final featuring two Canadians De Grasse and Brown against villainous convicted drug cheat defending champ American Gatlin and his countryman ( & probable drug cheat, having missed three doping tests this year) Coleman.

Back to hockey (and music and whisky) talk!

OriginalPouzar

As per Mattheson:

McDavid predictably not playing in Calg but Draisaitl is. No Neal going either. Guys on bubble Haas, Granlund, Jurco, Gagner playing. No Klefbom but Manning and Lagesson playing on D

No Burdasov either.

Oilander

Hunter1909’s Official 2019-20 Death March™

Entries welcome between now and the first puck drop of the 2019-20 season(October 2)
Here’s how you play: Guess how many points the Oilers get in the regular season.

That’s it!
Tie break: How many regular season goals does JP score for his new Finnish team?

Hi Hunter! 78 pts for the Oilers and 15g for Jesse. Thanks!

defmn

OriginalPouzar:
As per Mattheson:

McDavid predictably not playing in Calg but Draisaitl is. No Neal going either. Guys on bubble Haas, Granlund, Jurco, Gagner playing. No Klefbom but Manning and Lagesson playing on D

No Burdasov either.

I would guess that means either the Burdasov experiment is over or he has agreed to an extended PTO.

Craig Zonit

Bye Bye Burdie.

drglen

was watching Vityaz vs. Metallurg. Vityaz has a great, great young goalie. Ilya Ezhov, not drafted.

Jakob Jerabek on the team. ( Czech republic) .. played a bit in NHL.

drglen

Lowetide,

ah man… .. .

OriginalPouzar

Burdasov being released.

Cahoon

Hunter, I’ll take 89 points for the Oilers and 14 for JP