Knock Knock

by Lowetide

If things go well, the Dave Tippett ‘knock knock’ story about Ethan Bear will become a memorable part of a successful coach-player relationship. Kind of a modern Tommy Lasorda ‘Bulldog’ story involving Orel Hershisher.

Those stories are fun, but the hard work of winning an NHL job is still in play. After Thursday’s effort in Winnipeg, Bear is maybe a little closer to ‘knock knock’ and a job in the world’s best league.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, we are celebrating our 2-year anniversary this week. To mark the occasion, you can get 40% off subscriptions here.

  • New Lowetide: Jay Woodcroft’s Bakersfield Condors might be bound for glory
  • New Jonathan Willis: Ethan Bear, Tomas Jurco outshine the competition in second-to-last Oilers preseason game
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Joakim Nygard managing his anger as he eyes spot on Oilers.
  • Jonathan Willis: Assessing the Oilers’ roster as the final positional battles are sorted out
  • Jonathan Willis: Oilers cut Evan Bouchard and Shane Starrett. Is Ethan Bear on the cusp of making the team?
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ bottom-six forwards, penalty kill shine in loss to Arizona Coyotes
  • Lowetide: Injuries and prospects: A brief Oilers history of devastating derailments
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Connor McDavid’s nearing return and four other things we’ve learned from Oilers camp
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: How five months in Kelowna changed Leon Draisaitl’s hockey career
  • Lowetide: Matt Benning may be vulnerable to a trade as Ken Holland works to tweak Oilers roster
  • Lowetide: Three players who helped their Oilers hopes and three who didn’t do enough to separate in Edmonton’s fourth preseason game
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Dreadful showing means several Oilers players are on the chopping block with cuts looming
  • Jonathan Willis: How quickly must the Oilers’ top AHL prospects claim NHL jobs before they become suspect?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: McDavid and more: Five thoughts through the first week of Oilers camp
  • Lowetide: Why Kailer Yamamoto’s delayed training camp may benefit his Oilers career
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Q&A: Brandon Manning on how his contract is hurting him, proving his worth at camp and being a mentor
  • Jonathan Willis: Four players who helped, three who hurt their Oilers hopes in Edmonton’s second preseason game
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: How an offseason adding more pop in his stick and skates has James Neal primed for first Oilers season
  • Lowetide: A big night for Oilers defencemen Joel Persson, William Lagesson and Evan Bouchard
  • Lowetide: Handicapping Oilers prospect progress: The development of Ethan Bear, Caleb Jones and William Lagesson
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Eight key questions for the Oilers to solve at training camp
  • Jonathan Willis: Predicting the winners of the Oilers’ top-six and top-nine forward jobs out of camp
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: In, out or on the bubble: Breaking down positional battles at Oilers camp
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Alex Chiasson prepares to return to scoring form for Edmonton Oilers
  • Jonathan Willis: Oilers’ defensive hopes will rest on the new shutdown pair of Darnell Nurse and Adam Larsson
  • Jonathan Willis: How much money will Darnell Nurse make on his next NHL contract?
  • Corey Pronman: Oilers No. 9 farm system.
  • Lowetide: Oilers top 20 prospects summer 2019.

LINE 1 Tomas Jurco-Connor McDavid-James Neal.

Six points for the line on the night, McDavid was absolutely flying for most of the evening. Neal picked up two assists and was around the puck a lot, but he doesn’t so much pursue it as wait for it to come his way. Jurco probably won a job with a pair of goals, he’s been quality (3-2-5 in three games). I wonder if we see this line during the regular season.

LINE 2 Joakim Nygard-Leon Draisaitl-Anton Burdasov.

Two assists for Draisaitl (now 3, 1-3-4) and one for Burdasov on the night, the trio was -2 at even strength but six shots on goal among them was solid. I like Burdasov, he arrived too late is all. If they signed him, can they be sure of him? Needed to get that paperwork done earlier. Nygard (4, 1-0-1) hasn’t done enough to earn a job on a skill line and I don’t know how he fits bottom six. I’d be hesitant to flush that speed, though.

LINE 3 Patrick Russell-Colby Cave-Zack Kassian

Five shots by the line, plenty of good work and often with the puck two time zones from the Edmonton net. Russell (6, 1-1-2) and Cave (5, 0-1-1) spent some time on the PK, too. Cave may need 100 high danger scoring chances per goal. Kassian (3, 1-1-2) looked fine to my eye this fall and I expect he’ll stay on a skill line (possibly over Gagner).

LINE 4 Jujhar Khaira-Gaetan Haas-Josh Archibald.

Haas (3, 0-1-1) finally delivered some good moments, getting a nice assist on the second Bear goal, winning seven of 11 faceoffs and spending some time on an effective PK. Khaira (4, 0-2-2) was impressive again, both points this preseason shorthanded. Archibald (4, 0-1-1) skated miles, the team has a different look when he’s on the ice (speed and aggressive puck pursuit).

PAIRING 1 Oscar Klefbom-Ethan Bear.

Klefbom (4, 0-5-5) makes everything easier, he’s like a cheat code on skates. He played well, mentored Bear and the duo won possession, goal differential and posted three points between them. Is this an opening night pairing? Bear (3, 2-2-4) was rock solid to my eye even before the goals. Strong passing, including lovely feed into the slot for Neal who tipped the puck and drew a penalty. I think he made the team last night.

PAIRING 2 Kris Russell-Matt Benning

Russell (2, 0-0-0) looked like Russell, defended a lot and worked hard below the hash marks. Benning (4, 0-0-0) was okay save for the one play everyone will remember (Perreault was effective in a tight space, Benning caught unaware). Maybe Benning is the No. 7 D opening night. I don’t believe that will happen, but these young blue are chasing him down.

PAIRING 3 Brandon Manning-William Lagesson

I was disappointed that Lagesson (3, 0-0-0) got Manning (3, 0-0-0) as his partner. That’s a tough assignment for a guy ho is still applying for the job. Lagesson is a better defenseman than Manning, it isn’t close. I like his instincts on the pinch, he’s kind of “opposite everyone else” on the team in that he’s conservative. Manning, I believe, will have to return to the minors and tweak a few things if he’s going to be an NHL regular again.

Mike Smith stopped 18 of 21, .857, the Dr. Seuss goal was kind of a fluke and the other two involved goal mouth scrambles. I’m a fan of Matt Benning, but that goal by Bourque (via fine work by Perreault) was a down arrow. Smith hasn’t grabbed the starting job, but he did get into two games this week and after the illness that was a priority. I imagine Koskinen gets Saturday and the opener.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, we kickstart the weekend with a full boat of guests. TSN 1260, we’ll have Steve Lansky from Big Mouth Sports to talk Auston Matthews, the advent of social media and Live Mic CFL. Julian Edlow from Draft Kings gets us ready for the football weekend. Matt Iwanyk will tee up the Eskimos game in Ottawa tomorrow (must win!) and Frank Seravalli pops by to chat NHL and the season to come. 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. See you on the radio!

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Jaxon

Last night’s lineup really makes one think about unicorns.

Jurco / McDavid / Burdasov
Nygard / Draisaitl / Neal
Khaira / Nugent-Hopkins / Gagner
Chiasson / Sheahan / Kassian

Granlund / Archibald?

Cave / Haas / Russell sent down/out?

So many moving parts right now, it’s hard to figure out. Next game should bring a clearer picture.

If Jurco, Nygard, and Burdasov make the team, there will be some veteran players looking for a spot.

Jaxon

Go Bear!

Jethro Tull

“Ethan, there’s a collect call from opportunity. Do you accept the charges?”

“What’s a collect call?”

OriginalPouzar

As we all know, I really wanted Benson to get a chance in exhibition with some legit top 6 skill – didn’t happen but that’s OK.

Further, off his first game and then his second game, where i thought Jurco showed some very nice offensive skill along with good skating and solid board play, I wanted him to get a chance with legit top 6 skill. If finally happened last night..

Listening to the Cult of Hockey Podcast this morning at the gym, they mentioned they were glad McDavid and Drai were split last night as it gives a chance for 4 other wingers to play with legit high end skill as opposed to just one. They, of course, were right as Jurco shown with skill, Burdasov maybe earned one last look on Sat and Neal showed that he can still play in the offensive zone.

The question is, we KNOW Tippett sees McDavid and Drai as a pair but maybe, just maybe, does he see them on separate lines as a legit option based off of last night?

Of course, small sample and exhibition season but the premise runs true.

Jurco is 3 for 3 in his three games – exhibition, yes, but what else can he do to start the season on the team and in the top 6?

It may not translate, however, he has shown the ability to produce at the NHL level – his issue has been sample size…

Woodguy v2.0

Last year I was convinced that Bear was being passed like a house on the side of the road and was going to be buried by the younger RHD and Persson.

I wish someone told me that Dmen don’t develop in a straight line.

LadiesloveSmid

Jurco is an older Ty Rattie. I hope he isn’t seriously considered for the top 6. This teams need 2 top 6 wingers so so badly.

JJS

Jaxon:
Last night’s lineup really makes one think about unicorns.

Jurco / McDavid / Burdasov
Nygard / Draisaitl / Neal
Khaira / Nugent-Hopkins / Gagner
Chiasson / Sheahan / Kassian

Granlund / Archibald?

Cave / Haas / Russell sent down/out?

So many moving parts right now, it’s hard to figure out. Next game should bring a clearer picture.

If Jurco, Nygard, and Burdasov make the team, there will be some veteran players looking for a spot.

I think Archie has made the team. He brings a level of tenacity that we haven’t seen for some time.

The Khaira/Sheehan/Archi 3rd line has great potential to be outscoring

Perhaps Nuge and Drias on the second line?

Coiler

Really happy for Bear and his game last night. It’s always encouraging to see a young man rise to the challenge that Tippett put in front of him. It’s that sort of hunger that this team needs to be successful.

Pouzar

Daaayum Mr. Good Bear.

also, I could fall in love with those first 2 lines.

Kinger_Oil.redux

Jaxon,

– You’ve been one of the few that has been an advocate of splitting up Drai and CmD. I’ve never bought the “they are so good together and the first line matters most”

– This team will only be a Cup contender when Drai and CmD are on different lines IMO

– When you give wingers with talent the chance to play with skilled C’s: good things happen

– With Drai and CmD on seperate line, we go from needing 1 winger to 4.

– And when they are together, the rest of the wingers get to play with RNH or Cave or Brodz…

– I bet this year they split them more: we’ll have more “secondary scoring”, our wingers will have more scoring ability

Darth Tu

Definite up arrow for Haas – I still think he needs to go to the AHL for a bit to get some more time on the smaller ice under his belt before an attempt at the big league.

Archibald is found money, he’s exactly as advertised and should do a great job of eating those bottom 6 minutes.

Bear – I was delighted for him last night. Benning is going to need to step up his play or risk being bumped off the starting lineup when Persson returns. It’s probably too much to hope that Bear can grab the job with Klefbom full time isn’t it? The last thing we want is to rush him up the lineup too quickly (as the Oilers love to do). I’d be more of a fan of Persson on the 3rd pairing and on PP2 after he returns from injury.

McDavid is clearly ready to go.

Burdasov, he’s doing nice things but I agree, he’s maybe arrived a little too late. You’d have to think we’ll give him another game on Saturday. I’m pleasantly surprised by him so far. He’s a “rookie” isn’t he? If we sign him to a contract he could go to the AHL without clearing waivers? Might be an idea to send him down for a month along with Haas(elhoff) for more acclimatization.

Jethro Tull

Woodguy v2.0:
Last year I was convinced that Bear was being passed like a house on the side of the road and was going to be buried by the younger RHD and Persson.

I wish someone told me that Dmen don’t develop in a straight line.

To be fair, I don’t think anyone does.

Pouzar

Benning has not been good.

drglen

nobody cut last night. I guess they said ‘let me sleep on it’….

I wonder what burdasov with Mcdavid would look like….

Jurco, McD, Burdo.

Neal, Draisaitl, Chaisson

Khaira, Nuge, Archibald?

Nyggard, Haas, Kassian.

teddyturnbuckle

Loved Bear last night. He looks like a poor man’s Duncan Keith out there. Manning needs to go down he can’t handle the puck at all. Cave is great at everything except he can’t score. Benning is about to be passed on depth chart.

Pouzar

I have found Archibald pretty underwhelming thus far.

Jaxon

JJS: I think Archie has made the team.He brings a level of tenacity that we haven’t seen for some time.

The Khaira/Sheehan/Archi 3rd line has great potential to be outscoring

Perhaps Nuge and Drias on the second line?

Who do you take out to fit Archibald?

PinkSocks

RNH with Draisaitl is the answer.

Jurco with his left shot is a natural RW, same as Neal, so if Jurco can stick with McDavid, and Neal/RNH/Drai can be a thing, one winger is needed to flank McD, be it KhaiaNygard/Kassian, or one of the young guns in Bakersfield. Nygard and McDavid’s speed on the ice at the same time would be marvelous… if Nygard could score a few; and maybe that just takes time.

Benning has been horrific this preseason. Bear and Persson could both be on the roster and Benning in the 7D slot.

Pouzar

PinkSocks:
RNH with Draisaitl is the answer.

Jurco with his left shot is a natural RW, same as Neal, so if Jurco can stick with McDavid, and Neal/RNH/Drai can be a thing, one winger is needed to flank McD, be it KhaiaNygard/Kassian, or one of the young guns in Bakersfield. Nygard and McDavid’s speed on the ice at the same time would be marvelous… if Nygard could score a few; and maybe that just takes time.

Benning has been horrific this preseason.Bear and Persson could both be on the roster and Benning in the 7D slot.

I’m not mad at any of this.

Romulus Apotheosis

Hunter: 81 Points please

JP scores 13 goals

TheGreatBigMac

Here’s my fantasy lineup that I’d like to see tried out:

Draisaitl / McDavid / Burdasov
Jurco / Nugent-Hopkins / Neal
Khaira / Sheahan / Archibald
Chiasson / Haas / Kassian

Nurse / Larsson
Kelfbom / Bear
Russell / Benning

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oil-in-the-blood

I dont mind this look. Burdasov needs more time as stated here, I hope he gets to go down for a bit to get going, 1 more game look for him. I think Nygard’s speed cant be ignored so I woulld have him as at least an extra in this line up. I like that D until Persson returns. Benning has been bad, he is better than these performances.

TheGreatBigMac:
Here’s my fantasy lineup that I’d like to see tried out:

Draisaitl / McDavid / Burdasov
Jurco / Nugent-Hopkins / Neal
Khaira / Sheahan / Archibald
Chiasson / Haas / Kassian

Nurse / Larsson
Kelfbom / Bear
Russell / Benning

Fuhr and Lowething in Vegreville

Jaxon:
Last night’s lineup really makes one think about unicorns.

Jurco / McDavid / Burdasov
Nygard / Draisaitl / Neal
Khaira / Nugent-Hopkins / Gagner
Chiasson / Sheahan / Kassian

Granlund / Archibald?

Cave / Haas / Russell sent down/out?

So many moving parts right now, it’s hard to figure out. Next game should bring a clearer picture.

If Jurco, Nygard, and Burdasov make the team, there will be some veteran players looking for a spot.

I too have been beating the drum of playing with splitting CMD and Drai, we all know they could literally go years without playing together and come back and have instant chemistry together, so why bother spending even one minute of pre-season ice time together when IMHO that time could be better served trying to find magic in a bottle elsewhere, if not, bo harm, no foul.

I would personally would love to see that lineup, or something similar. for the next game. Especially the first two lines.

oil-in-the-blood

Great to see Bear play that way, have been cheering for him for a long time. He looked quick out there last night, that summer edge work/fitness/lifestyle is noticeable.

tileguy

Not much love for Gagner today, perhaps his time has come.

rickithebear

Giving up 2.55 ga per gm avg all season is the answer the last 3 seasons.
It is still the answer.

I saw bear:
A. score 2 evg
1 as 4 th option & 1 from point.
Smart, low risk.
This made me happy.
and
B. be out of the homeplate def area.
– attack an uncovered option high with no concern for the player low leading to goal.
– a read he would have a better call on if he had been in homeplate area.
Probably system!
I was not happy!

hunter1909

IT’S BACK!!!!!!!!! FOR ANOTHER EXCITING, INCREDIBLE SEASON FREE TO ENTER + PLAY

Hunter1909’s Official 2019-20 Death March™

Entries welcome between now and the first puck drop of the 2019-20 season(October 2)

Here’s how you play: Guess how many points the Oilers get in the regular season.

That’s it!

Tie break: How many regular season goals does JP score for his new Finnish team?

OriginalPouzar

What may be a key to the season is that Oscar Klefbom looks as good as he ever has.

Yes, its exhibition and he should look better but he looks healthy and, in addition to his 5 points in 4 games, he just looks, well, good.

Calm, efficient, making good decisions – and doing so with a rookie D partner each and every game.

We think of him as a veteran but he’s right at the age now where he’s about to hit his prime for a d-man.

I think, if Oscar can stay healthy this year, he’s going to be a massive player for the Oilers.

Silver Streak

Hey L.T., what, if any skuttlebut do you hear regarding the Oilers building an analytics group ?
I just read the article in the Athletic re: the Seattle group progress and initial founding philosophy
they get it….seems like we either don’t have enough interest, or Bob has`nt heard of the new science.

oil-in-the-blood

ohhh if he would/could play D….

tileguy:
Not much love for Gagner today, perhaps his time has come.

oil-in-the-blood

I still remember when he got hurt last year! The team def didnt fair very well then (yes other factors) but losing him big factor, he is good….

OriginalPouzar:
What may be a key to the season is that Oscar Klefbom looks as good as he ever has.

Yes, its exhibition and he should look better but he looks healthy and, in addition to his 5 points in 4 games, he just looks, well, good.

Calm, efficient, making good decisions – and doing so with a rookie D partner each and every game.

We think of him as a veteran but he’s right at the age now where he’s about to hit his prime for a d-man.

I think, if Oscar can stay healthy this year, he’s going to be a massive player for the Oilers.

McNuge93

hunter1909,

Hunter, I’ll take a Brandon Davidson 88 for the Oilers and 15 for our wayward Pulu. Thanks.

oil-in-the-blood

rickithebear,

Grow Bear Grow 😉

Kinger_Oil.redux

rickithebear:
.

I saw bear:
A. score 2 evg
1 as 4 th option & 1 from point.
Smart, low risk.
This made me happy.

– Ricki: you can’t fool me: I know your biased. It’s no coincidence that the first “rover” D you applaud happens to be named Bear!

– Joking of course

McSorley33

Matt Benning has left the team with no choice…

Have no idea why Brandon Manning is even playing pre-season games at the NHL level

The only thing I can think of is to sabotage some of the young D coming along.

Mission Accomplished last night for Brandon

Feel sorry for Laggeson….

cowboy bill

I see them signing Burdie to a contract . I see Haas , Nygard & Jurco making the team . I see one of Granlund or Gagner being waived , mostlkely Granlund . Also Cave & Manning will probably be waived & P. Russell sent down to Bakersfield .

That will leave them with 9 wingers ( Neal , Burdie , Nygard , Kassian , Chiasson , Arch , Jurco , Khaira & Gagner ) 5 centers ( McDavid , Leon , Nuge , Sheahan & Haas ))

The D is looking like we will see ( Nurse , Larsson , Klefbom , Bear , Russell , Benning & Lagesson ) with Persson on IR for the time being .

Smith & Koskie .

there’s the team .

McSorley33

Pouzar,

I have found Archibald pretty underwhelming thus far.
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Same.

Unless he is just waiting to unleash his game against real NHL Players starting next
week…..

I just don’t even know what his ‘game’ is….

pts2pndr

Jaxon: Who do you take out to fit Archibald?

Chiasson or Gagner depending on the opponent. More speed for the forecheck.

McSorley33

hunter1909,

T’S BACK!!!!!!!!! FOR ANOTHER EXCITING, INCREDIBLE SEASON FREE TO ENTER + PLAY

Hunter1909’s Official 2019-20 Death March™

Entries welcome between now and the first puck drop of the 2019-20 season(October 2)

Here’s how you play: Guess how many points the Oilers get in the regular season.

That’s it!

Tie break: How many regular season goals does JP score for his new Finnish team?
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Colby Cave, Riley Sheahan and Josh Archibald are going to power the Oilers to 83 points

JP 9 goals

Thank you Hunter

pts2pndr

cowboy bill:
I see them signing Burdie to a contract . I see Haas , Nygard & Jurco making the team . I see one of Granlund or Gagner being waived , mostlkely Granlund .Also Cave & Manning will probably be waived & P. Russell sent down to Bakersfield .

That will leave them with 9 wingers ( Neal , Burdie , Nygard , Kassian , Chiasson , Arch , Jurco , Khaira & Gagner ) 5 centers ( McDavid , Leon , Nuge , Sheahan & Haas ))

The D is looking like we will see ( Nurse , Larsson , Klefbom , Bear , Russell , Benning & Lagesson ) with Persson on IR for the time being .

Smith & Koskie .

there’s the team .

The Burdie Granlund thing may be close due Granlund’s combination of D and experience. They may start granlund on IR to get Burdie some more time. Other than that I think you nailed it.

rickithebear

30 dmen scored 2 evg in a game last yr.
5 did it twice.
Chabot 70gm 12 evg; worst 4.09 evga/60
Heiskenen 82gm 10 evg; 54th worst 2.92 evga/60
Letang 65gm 13 evg; 116th best (70th worst) 2.79 evga/60
Sandheim 82gm 7 evg; 43 worst 2.98 evga/60
Spurgeon 82gm 10 evg; 94 th best (. 92 worst) 2.65 evga/60

Some of the d who did it once:
Barrie: 78gm 12 evg; 47th worst 2.96 evga/60
Carlson 80gm 10 evg; 9 th worst 3.42 evga/60
Couburn 78gm 4 evg; 84th best 2.59 evga/60
DeAngelo 61gm 4 evg; 47th worst 2.97 evga/60
OEL 81gm 8 evg; 65th worst 2.84 evga/60
Fowler 59gm 4 evg; 81st best 2.57 evga/60
Hamilton 82gm 16 evg; 76th worst 2.75 evga/60
Jensen 80gm 2 evg; 60 th best 2.46 evga/60
S. Jones 75gm 9 evg; 19 th worst evga/60
Josi 82gm 13 evg; 102nd best (85th worst) 2.69 evga/60
Lindell 82gm 5 evg; 16th best 1.98 evga/60

Pietrangelo 71gm 10 evg; 62nd worst 2.85 evga/60
Petry 82gm 10 evg; 9 th worst 3.53 evga/60

Skjei 78gm 8 evg; 55 th worst 2.91 evga/60

Werenski 81gm 9 evg; 18 th worst 3.29 evga/60

Their is a pattern.

You should check the full list.

John Chambers

tileguy:
Not much love for Gagner today, perhaps his time has come.

Thing is he’s not going anywhere except perhaps Bakersfield.

I can see Gagner yo-yo’ing between Edmonton and the Bake considering there’s zero chance he’s claimed on waivers. He won’t cry about living in the press box either.

My guess is we’ll see Gags spot in for 30-50 games this year, and play another dozen or two as a Condor.

slopitch

Hunter, put me down for 88 points and 25 goals for JP.

Im a homer. Always have been. Plus I think a) the Oilers will use a waiver on a goalie and b) JP will dominate in Finish hockey.

thepeetso

jurco – mcd – kassian
neal – drai – RNH
jujar – sheahan – archie
chia – haas – gags

burdie, nygaard

(granlund and cave on the outside looking in until we get better reads on the russian and the swede, which is unfair to cave but is what it is)

nurse – larsson
klef – bear
russel – benning

persson

(manning and lagesson sent down)

Eh Team

McSorley33: have found Archibald pretty underwhelming thus far.
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Same.
Unless he is just waiting to unleash his game against real NHL Players starting next
week…..
I just don’t even know what his ‘game’ is….

Archibald is on the team to kill penalties and play on the 4th line. PK-ing, the thing where the Oilers ranked 30th in the NHL last year. If Gagner isn’t on a scoring line, he shouldn’t be playing. Gagner is fine when he’s in the opponent’s end, but anywhere else on the ice is not so good. Gagner defines the phrase “in the picture”

ArmchairGM

Cave and Nygard had poor games last night to my eye. Another game like that and they’ll make the final cuts easy for Tippett.

blainer

cowboy bill:
I see them signing Burdie to a contract . I see Haas , Nygard & Jurco making the team . I see one of Granlund or Gagner being waived , mostlkely Granlund .Also Cave & Manning will probably be waived & P. Russell sent down to Bakersfield .

That will leave them with 9 wingers ( Neal , Burdie , Nygard , Kassian , Chiasson , Arch , Jurco , Khaira & Gagner ) 5 centers ( McDavid , Leon , Nuge , Sheahan & Haas ))

The D is looking like we will see ( Nurse , Larsson , Klefbom , Bear , Russell , Benning & Lagesson ) with Persson on IR for the time being .

Smith & Koskie .

there’s the team .

I would be very happy to see both Gags and Granlund waived.

There are better options IMO. A trade about now would be perfect .. A nice 30 goal scorer on the cheap.. that should be easy to do !!

Woogie63

I am going on Saturday to the Battle

But here are my final player moves

Grunlund IR
Gagner 13th forward
Sheahan 14th forward
Benning 7th dman (if Persson is ready to play)
Cave waived
Manning waived

New to starting 20

Jurco
Nygard
Burdasov
P. Russell
Haas
Archibald
Persson
Bear
Smith

Everyone on the new list makes the team faster and the team will spend more time out of their own zone.

McSorley33

Eh Team,

Archibald is on the team to kill penalties and play on the 4th line. PK-ing, the thing where the Oilers ranked 30th in the NHL last year. If Gagner isn’t on a scoring line, he shouldn’t be playing. Gagner is fine when he’s in the opponent’s end, but anywhere else on the ice is not so good. Gagner defines the phrase “in the picture”
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Fair point on the PK component to Archibald’s game…..