I’ve been thinking about the Oilers from the early part of this century lately, the Lowe-MacT group from 2000-06. I know it’s impossible to use the space-time continuum in order to bring 2005-06 Shawn Horcoff, Chris Pronger, Ales Hemsky, Radek Dvorak, Ryan Smyth and Dwayne Roloson. Wouldn’t it be nice?
THE ATHLETIC!
The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, less than two coffees a month offer here.
- New Mitch Brown: The Video Room: How Oilers’ Kailer Yamamoto overcomes his small stature to make dynamic plays
- New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘Emotionless’ Oilers fail yet again to match passion from a week ago
- New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: 15 potential trade targets for the Oilers before the 2020 deadline
- Lowetide: Drilling down on right-handed centres for the Oilers to target before the trade deadline
- Jonathan Willis: Oilers trade suggestions: 50 proposals from readers, with our verdict
- Lowetide: If fast is the new big, the Oilers are trending in a very good direction
- Lowetide: Oilers’ 2016 draft and the value of waiting five years
- Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘I got a text from Wayne Gretzky that I’ve still got saved’: 8 years later, Sam Gagner reflects on his 8-point night.
- Lowetide: What’s next for Tyler Benson and William Lagesson after being called up by the Oilers?
- Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘Now it’s over’: With a new contract in hand, Zack Kassian ready to move on after Matthew Tkachuk fight
- Lowetide: Why the Oilers are more likely to trade Adam Larsson than Kris Russell
- Lowetide: Oilers prospects Evan Bouchard and Tyler Benson deliver best minor league performances in 20 years
- Jonathan Willis: An updated list of which Oilers are most likely to be traded in 2019-20
- Lowetide: Kailer Yamamoto gives Oilers a midseason spark, one of the best in team history
- Jonathan Willis: The Oilers’ road forward — and perhaps to a Stanley Cup — requires trusting the kids on defence
- Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Deciding what to do with Darnell Nurse, Mike Smith, Tyler Benson and Evan Bouchard
OILERS AFTER 55 GAMES
- Oilers in 2015-16: 21-29-5, 47 points; goal differential -29
- Oilers in 2016-17: 29-18-8, 66 points; goal differential +11
- Oilers in 2017-18: 23-28-4, 50 points; goal differential -30
- Oilers in 2018-19: 24-26-5, 53 points; goal differential -20
- Oilers in 2019-20: 28-20-6, 62 points; goal differential +2
Edmonton is facing a strong Nashville Predators team tonight, as well as the out of town scoreboard. I love these races, and remain hopeful the Oilers will be buyers at the deadline. Massive game tonight.
ON THE TENS
- First 10 games: 7-2-1
- Second 10 games: 5-4-1
- Third 10 games: 5-4-1
- Fourth 10 games: 3-6-1
- Fifth 10 games: 6-2-2
- Current 10 games: 2-2-0
Arizona is in Boston, Oilers hosting Preds, Calgary plays Vancouver and Vegas takes on Carolina. If the Oilers win, while the other three lose, the city of Edmonton parties until dawn.
OILERS IN FEBRUARY
- Oilers in February 2016: 1-3-0, two points; goal differential -15
- Oilers in February 2017: 1-3-0, two points; goal differential -7
- Oilers in February 2018: 1-2-1, three points; goal differential +1
- Oilers in February 2019: 1-1-2, four points; goal differential -4
- Oilers in February 2020: 1-2-0, two points; goal differential 0
Have a look at the goal differentials here. These are some monumental slides, even minus seven over four games is a big deal. Minus 15 in four games? Holy crap!
WHAT TO EXPECT IN FEBRUARY
- On the road to: CAL, ARI (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
- At home to: SJS, NAS, CHI (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
- On the road to: TBY, FLA, CAR (Expected 1-1-1)
- At home to: BOS, MIN (Expected 1-1-0)
- On the road to: LAK, ANA, VEG (Expected 2-1-0)
- At home to: WPG (Expected 1-0-0)
- Overall expected result: 8-5-1, 17 points in 14 games
- Current results: 1-2-0, two points in three games
If the Oilers win tonight, the team will be close to on track with my predicted result. I think the team needs to win the next two games, because that road trip will be no fun. Then again the Oilers are strong against the good clubs, so who knows?
OILERS 2019-20
Horcoff was an instant favourite of mine, and as it has been since Keon and Sanderson I watch for the next brilliant two-way centre to come along. Patrice Bergeron is the modern gold standard, he’s been good forever. The Nuge is in this category, Edmonton could use a fourth-rounder like Horcoff to slide on to the third line about now. I held out some hope for Aapeli Rasanen (solid two-way resume) but they moved him to right wing this winter at Boston College. So, it’s Ryan McLeod and he’s not ready.
Speaking of prospects, there are three men who made my top-20 winter prospects list in December who will graduate by June. Ethan Bear, Caleb Jones and Kailer Yamamoto are all NHL players now, or will be before the end of the season. So those days of having a Horcoff or Pisani emerge from a late round to fill a valuable role are back, it’s just that there are no pivots at this time.
The centers on my top 20 mostly stayed behind, or moved to RW like Rasanen. Cooper Marody is a distant bell, or so it seems, due to injury.
2007-08 lines and performance
Dustin Penner-Shawn Horcoff-Ales Hemsky played 309 minutes together, going 53.4 Corsi, 54.79 shot differential (all numbers five on five), 20-11 goals (64.52 percent), 53.21 expected goals.
Andrew Cogliano-Sam Gagner-Robert Nilsson played 247 minutes together, going 48.72 Corsi, 49.21 shot differential, 15-13 goals (53.57 percent), 53.73 expected goals.
I think sometimes we look back on the past and discount entire seasons, and in some cases, careers. It’s important to note that men like Horcoff were strong performers under a coach like Craig MacTavish. The lack of player quality in support impacted men like Horcoff and (along with age and the inevitable erosion of skills) their overall performance.
2009-10 lines and performance
Ethan Moreau-Shawn Horcoff-Fernando Pisani played 227 minutes, going 39.53 Corsi, 39.81 shot differential, 6-12 (33 percent) goals and 38.04 percent expected goals.
J-F Jacques-Shawn Horcoff-Patrick O’Sullivan played 92 minutes together, going 41.22 Corsi, 42.25 shot differential, 2-9 goals (18.18 percent) and 36.43 expected goals.
Just a couple of years later, the quality of the roster is so poor that Horcoff and two veterans can’t reach 40 percent. It’s even worse in a mentor role, as the possession and expected goals remain the same, but the actual goal differential caves in from all sides. I well remember folks hammering Horcoff really good (while also getting his cap hit wrong) in these years, but context is important.
2016-17 lines and performance
Patrick Maroon-Connor McDavid-Leon Draisaitl played 543 minutes, going 52.64 Corsi, 54.16 shot differential, 32-21 goals (60.38 percent) and 57.07 expected goals.
Patrick Maroon-Connor McDavid-Jordan Eberle played 139 minutes, going 55.36 Corsi, 53.42 shot differential and 9-5 goals (64.29 percent) with an expected goals percentage of 60.62.
Back in 2016-17, the playoff year, the Oilers had enough skill on the roster to allow sustain through all kinds of weather with 97. That’s important, because you want your No. 1 line to prosper while also trying to find chem for the No. 2 line.
2019-20 lines and performance
Leon Draisaitl-Connor McDavid-Zack Kassian played 441 minutes together, going 47.87 Corsi, 46.20 shot differential, 28-25 (52.83 percent) goals and 47.70 expected goals.
James Neal-Connor McDavid-Zack Kassian played 89 minutes together, going 52.53 Corsi, 55.67 shot differential, 4-5 goals (44.44) and 61.03 expected goals.
I would argue that the Oilers need to reset the wingers on McDavid’s line. If you’re running below 50 percent in expected goals and or Corsi with 97 on a line, pull the chute.
The question then becomes what kind of a winger do you want McDavid to play with? Skill for sure, but I think more of a shooter, an Eberle or a Neal with speed. Mike Hoffman might be perfect. Hoffman-McDavid-Kassian? Hoffman-McDavid-Neal? Nuge-McDavid-Hoffman? You know, it might be Hoffman-McDavid-Yamamoto.
Pescador, you are my hero! Thank you.
That DSF would be a Fox News regular doesn’t surprise me in the least.
Always been a fan of Slepy,
I thought there was a bottom 6’er in there somewhere,
Sort of like a non-fighting Russian version of JJ
Yeah wow. I could see him returning to Edmonton if he’s willing. Not sure on his KHL contract.
You could build that model but then it would miss Laine and Aho.
Not that her model might not be an improvement overall – I should watch the clip. I just think Puljujarvi is an anomaly in so many ways.
BONE207,
Really this comment stayed up all night and nobody challenged it?
“Why, man, Brogan doth bestride the narrow world
Like a Colossus, and we petty men
Walk under his huge legs and peep about
To find ourselves dishonorable graves
Higher ground would have been perfect for that game. Specifically on a neutral ice rink built on the Rogers Pass snow sheds. With a round of howitzers fired up onto the slopes to celebrate the first goal.
Roman Josi is a massive rover out there – may be the best d-man in the league I would say.
Watched condensed gm.
Concern for Mcdavid knee again.
Mcdavid since Gio hit:
5 1/2gm 2 evg 0 Eva, 1ppg, 2 PPA
The even count makes me wonder!
Calgary beating Vancouver helps Oilers to reach for 1st in the Pacific lol
Meanwhile statistically Calgary’s chances of overtaking the Oilers were reduced since Oilers also won
Slepyshev with a 13 game point scoring streak
One shy of Radulov’s record!
The CBJHAC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TENd93QJt-8&feature=youtu.be
Someone on twitter mentioned a slide entitled, “which player would you select” and it’s Puljujarvi and Dubois.
It’s from a Senior named Katherina Whu (spelling?). Her study is building on NHLe. It starts at about the 2h 40min mark.
Basically her finding was that her pts/game model from Puljujarvi’s SMLiiga and Dubois QMJHL showed that Dubois would be the superior point getter in the NHL
You’re like a dog on a bone. Kassian did not start the game on McDavid’s line. And he didn’t make any spectacular gaffe on the first goal. Yes, I know you’re going to pound on the drum that he wasn’t covering someone on the play or something else. Shocker. Kassian is bad enough on his own. There’s no need to invent stuff. Kassian derangement syndrome.
Larry Fisher of FC Hockey’s Draft Rankings from Feb 1:
https://thehockeywriters.com/2020-nhl-draft-rankings-february-fisher/
Since then he’s had a couple of live viewings of Seth Jarvis and says that he’s probably moved into the 20’s on his list
Pescador,
Not sure I’ve ever seen a reaction like that from DSF/HH in the 15yrs I’ve read his garbage! Was good to see. Lol
Kassian gets back on Connor’s line to start the game, and last a handful of shifts before his blunder and absence of compete (which was responsible for the 1st goal against) promptly puts him back on the 4th line mostly diddling on the bench.
Pettedson needs protection. Can we trade him for Brogan Rafferty?
The ink isn’t dry yeti.
Yes!!!
I am the people’s champion
https://youtu.be/6ZCO40Zwt00
I’ve never seen things so close at this point in the season.
3 points between first in the Pacific or out of the playoffs.
Wow !
Yeah it’s something else.
Translation: Canucks shit the bed
Sphincters throughout the league have been tight for some time and will remain that way.
Glad the standings tonight didn’t play out that way.
Oilers to 1st in the Pacific by Pts% for now.
This probably wins the mitt
Came for Oilers talk… left 3 minutes later because it’s HH and Canucks talk…
Whatever Pal…you’ve obviously mistaken me for someone who cares what you think.
Maybe take your biases and puerile politics and stick them somewhere.
You listen to the talking muppets between periods?
Interesting
When Kelly Hrudey talks, you nod your head in agreement don’t you?
Him & Bill O’Reilly
Sounds familiar!
Petersson gets abused all game and then gets called for a penalty. Lucic scores on the PP.
Lucic scores on the PP. LOL. He lost possession on the PP twice, yet he scores the goal. Hockey is a funny game.
Interesting .
The between period panel on HNIC focused on how the Flames have been targeting Petterssons bruised knee all game.
Sound familiar?
JimmyV1965,
Miles Wood!
You’re correct, just like Petterson’s alien head.
For what it’s worth McDavid’s knee is always a target for Giordano
I have zero issue giving up a first round pick for the right player. I would be dancing in the street if we traded Broberg for Miller. Of course the Canucks would never do that, but you get my drift.
McDavid doesn’t even need someone that good. Get him a winger who can skate even reasonably well, is defensively responsible and can score 15 with a decent centre and we’re cooking with gas.
You know Connors knee will be a target for the rest of the season, right.
Bakersfield Condors vs. Tucson Roadrunners; February 5th, 2020; deployment
Gambardella-Granlund-Currie
Esposito-Cave-Maksimov
McLeod-Malone-Hebig
Stukel-x-Koules
Lowe-Bouchard
Manning-Persson
Kulevich/Samorukov-Day
Persson/Day-Bouchard
Lowe-Kulevich
…
after 20
12CF-10CA
7FF-5FA
2GF-0GA
Top F: Malone (1.43 Game Score)
1 shot attempt, 1 shot assist
1 goal, 1 penalty drawn
7CF-0CA
4FF-0FA
1GF-0GA
Top D: Day (1.36 Game Score)
1 shot attempt, 1 shot assist
1 goal
6CF-2CA
4FF-2FA
2GF-0GA
…
after 40
27CF-29CA
15FF-14FA
3GF-1GA
Top F: Malone (1.38 Game Score)
1 shot attempt, 2 shot assists
1 goal, 1 penalty drawn
12CF-7CA
8FF-3FA
1GF-0GA
Top D: Day (1.26 Game Score)
1 shot attempt, 2 shot assists
1 goal
9CF-8CA
6FF-3FA
2GF-0GA
…
game totals
35CF-43CA
20FF-22FA
3GF-1GA
Top F: Malone (1.23 Game Score)
1 shot attempt, 2 shot assists
1 goal, 1 penalty drawn
12CF-10CA
8FF-6FA
1GF-0GA
Top D: Day (1.21 Game Score)
1 shot attempt, 2 shot assists
1 goal
11CF-11CA
7FF-6FA
2GF-0GA
CP salty after tonight’s Oilers W. Fun reading.
But… why would I be salty after a well earned win?
{Opens salted-caramel tub of ice cream, and reads the enraged Calgary fan posts in Calgary Puck for enjoyment}
As per Kelly Hrudey and company. Connor not made available post game. He was getting ice treatment and has bruised knee
Hrudey showing his true colours smirking about Connors knee.
I wonder what the over under on Kanuck players flopping is set at has to be at least 9.The flopping won’t work when the big boy hockey starts in April.
I was worried for the first 2 periods, we didn’t seem to be playing with much passion or desperation. But that 3rd period was a beauty! Nice to see the reffing slide to our side for a change.
Super concerned about Connor, hope he’s ok. He took another nasty fall, collided with the boards awkwardly, and didn’t look 100% at the end there. Fingers crossed.
GO OILERS!
I am extremely concerned about McDavid”s knee.
Edmonton Oilers
@EdmontonOilers
·
28m
Bruised knee, “nothing serious” for McDavid, according to #Oilers bench boss Dave Tippett. The captain received ice treatment between periods & post-game as well.
FWIW
I like
Aww
Side,
Is that John rafferties brother, waiting to take over the music world?
flyfish1168,
No save dave
Anyone know if Holtby’s October no saves on first 3 shots is an NHL record?
Flames are treading lightly.
They know Borgan R. is watching.
Big sieve Dave starting the game in a good way
I guess they’re ok.
Well, they did need a kickstarter from Nashville. The reffing helped in the 3rd.
we win… barely, but we win. We can thank Leon for this one.
Great job boys!
https://youtu.be/lX8GG3dnsp8
I never had any doubts.
That is a big win!
I’m packing up the RV as we speak & heading to the mountains. With asteroids flying around, BC sliding into to sea & monsters roaming the earth, I want to see it all from a high vantage point.
That and the Phlegms-Dys game.
Oh right…I’ll leave in the morning
Why in the Fuck is Jujhar out there ?
Diversification requirement on hockey day in Canada