Game 52 2022-23: Oilers at Flyers

by Lowetide
From “On the Clock”

The Edmonton Oilers could occupy the penthouse suite in the Pacific Division upon return from this road trip. Edmonton won its division (Smythe) in 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986 and 1987, winning Stanley in three of those six seasons. The 1986-87 team was my favourite, the roster was incredible and the suspense (because of the 1986 loss) in the final (against the Philadelphia Flyers) was so palpable I can remember the feeling even today. I woke up the morning of Game 7 dreading what a loss might do, while also firmly believing the Oilers were the better team.

Grant Fuhr would finish with a .917 SP in the final. Ron Hextall had a .903 SP. Hextall won the Conn Smythe, Fuhr won the ring. That summer, all was right with the world. It’s a cherished memory.

THE ATHLETIC!

WHAT TO EXPECT IN FEBRUARY

  • On the road to: DET, PHI, OTT, MTL (Expected 3-1-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: DET, NYR (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: COL (Expected 0-0-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: PHI (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: PIT, CBJ (Expected 1-0-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: BOS (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • February expected result: 6-3-2, 14 points in 11 games
  • February actual result: 1-0-0, 2 points in one game
  • January actual result: 8-2-2, 18 points in 12 games
  • December results: 7-6-2, 16 points in 15 games
  • November results: 7-7-0, 14 points in 14 games
  • October results: 6-3-0, 12 points in 9 games
  • Oilers in 2022-23: 29-18-4, 62 points in 51 games

Edmonton is in a good spot today, the next three games are winnable and a 4-0-0 road trip could land the team in first place in the division. There’s a sense the Los Angeles Kings and Seattle Kraken (both 5-4-1 in the last 10) are falling, but the Vegas Golden Knights are 3-5-2 in their last 10 and that’s interesting, too. Edmonton is 8-1-1 in the last 10, and lead the division with a +28 goal differential.

END OF THE WHAC-A-MOLE DEADLINES?

Since the 2006 deadline, the Oilers have acquired a mixed bag of talent at the deadline when there was a chance to make the playoffs. This Oilers team is building and some of the moves (specifically Condors recalls) have provided a spark. Edmonton will need to add talent, but it’s becoming difficult to identify the primary area of need. It’s not a wac-a-mole deadline, as the quality in most spots on the roster is strong while being less than abundant.

What to do? Deal for a LHD? That would place Philip Broberg in the pressbox. RHD? There’s simply not much there. Center? You can never have too many, although the Oilers surely are reaching the breaking point. Wingers? If Holland can find someone like Ivan Barbashev that may be the way to go.

The problem is price. Ken Holland’s resume tells us he believes in the draft and the power of value deals. Read Daniel Nugent-Bowman’s excellent interview with the GM and it comes through in loud letters. If you approach the deadline with an idea that value deals and draft picks are extremely valuable, then you have your answer on Philip Broberg, Dylan Holloway, hell even Vincent Desharnais. Those three men will occupy spots next season in Edmonton, and replace the value deals represented this season by Evan Bouchard, Stuart Skinner, Ryan McLeod and Klim Kostin.

If I had to guess, the big deadline piece will be a center. I bet Holland likes Ryan O’Reilly and Jonathan Toews, don’t know if either is realistic with the cap constraints. He MIGHT touch base on Patrick Kane, I’d like Chychrun or Barbashev for it’s unlikely. I also like Jake McCabe, but that gets into the Broberg-Holland conversation. The two things I believe Holland will do: Find a forward who can help the second and third lines if the coach loads up the McDavid line; and find some depth on defense.

LOWETIDE AND JAMIESON

Hell’s a poppin at the NBA deadline and the Raptors are out there making real trades! We’ll talk also Oilers-Flyers, deadline and more with Darren Dreger, our TSN Insider. Teeing up the hockey, getting ready for the Super Bowl, and the damned NBA flattens everyone with this trade deadline! 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter.

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Ryan

Bill. Stop playing chicken with Chychrun. Just take Kenny’s offer.

Bulging Twine

Defence 5v5 +/-

Broberg +10

Desharnais +4
Barrie +4
Nurse +4

Kulak +2

Ceci 0

Bouchard -3

Bulging Twine

FW 5v5 +/-

Hyman 14

Yamamoto 9

Nuge 7
Kostin 6
McDavid 5
Ryan 4

Shore 2

Foegele 0
Holloway 0
Draisaitl -1
Janmark -1
McLeod -1
Kane -1

Puljujarvi -10

Bulging Twine

Defence PK time

Ceci 3:45
Nurse 3:34
Kulak 2:07
Desharnais 1:35
Broberg :54
Bouchard :05

when Desharnais was in the box and after Ceci had a pk shift they preferred the lefty Broberg over the righties Bouchard and Barrie

Bulging Twine

Great to see post surgery Kane scoring

Skinner solid

Interesting on a team with Barrie and Bouchard that it is Kulak who is the 2nd Defenceman over the boards in OT

Faustkarz

you gotta love hyman even on what wasnt the GWG (should;ve been?:)

dude is just always focused on the net

hes obviously going to tail off as he ages

but that nose to the line is unteachable he just has it

I grew up being 5-8 y/o watching guerin smyth and weight and i guess that was how i was taught to play hockey lol

get it into the pads, drive to the net, and sink it

and i like hyman for coming from that mindset

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Faustkarz

people arguing etc about OT/SO etc

seems easy just add a shot clock 24 seconds or so before shot or change of possession

Side

https://twitter.com/flutoshinzawa/status/1623773589429456896?s=46&t=Vi64CCqGJbOzKLUloHTlbg

People are suggesting Jake is getting traded.

Clearly these people have just never had to take a flight out of Edmonton before.

Scungilli Slushy

At the end of the day the 3 best and most paid players are playing poorly

Not how you chase Cup. Leo banks 103K US a piece to tie them up. I don’t give a shit what or why

Stop talking about hockey and play hockey the right way and win games like you should

If a poor team is trying hard that should not affect the outcome very often. My kids like arm wrestling you know

Side

I mean, complaining about 1st place 94 point McDavid and 2nd place 76 point Draisaitl in 52 gp while the Oilers are 8-0-2 in their last 10 is certainly 1 way to spend a Thursday evening.

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Scungilli Slushy

Top teams don’t have excuses

Does anyone have an example of that not being the case?

KassHat

Correct. Silver linings and glass half fulls are for teams on the opposite end of the spectrum.
Holland needs to send a message.

OriginalPouzar

Do you have any examples of top teams in the NHL that play well every night.

Even the Bruins have lots to bottom 5 teams this season.

The Oilers are at the one-year anniversary of Woodcroft taking over as coach and are 4th in the league in points percentage during that year and made it to the final four in the one playoff opportunity.

Your personal picture of what top teams in the NHL are seems out of touch with reality.

Side

I was thinking the same.

Oilers are also 8-0-2 in their last 10, 2nd behind NJD who are 9-0-1.

NJD has a 7 game winning streak, other teams are 4 wins in a row or less. Oilers are riding a 10 game point streak.

And, the Oilers are getting points even with McDavid and Draisaitl playing below their usual level these last couple of games. I am willing to bet they will bounce back prettty quickly to help keep the points coming.

hunter1909

The 1971 Boston Bruins(cough cough Ken Dryden) say hello.

Harpers Hair

VGK leading MIN 5-1 in the 3rd but Logan Thompson exits with an injury.

hunter1909

Flames fans are looking in their mirrors and see a no-playoff team with huge issues going forward. This is to their credit.

hunter1909

Hunter1909’s Season inside a season Update:

Tonight’s OTL means Oilers are now 10-3-3 in their 16 out of 30 game schedule.

Something deep inside tells us that they are going to probably split their 2 weekend games.

Do you think Oilers will split their weekend games: press thumbs up

Or Oilers will not split their weekend games: press thumbs down

Ranford.85

There’s one word that kept coming to mind during that game…. woof.

They better wake up for the weekend games.

Provorov stood out for me, had more speed than I expected. Purely for his hockey skills, he’d be a nice add to any team serious about making a run this year or next, before he becomes a UFA.

Victoria Oil

Need to give some credit to Philly. They played well.

JimmyV1965

I thought the Flyers were awful..The volume of unforced giveaways and turnovers they failed to convert was mind blowing. It’s a true testament to their mediocrity that we managed to get a point.

OriginalPouzar

I thought they played a solid structure game – there was very little clean air through the neutral zone for the Oilers skill players.

officezombie

8 giveaways a piece though? I thought they played equally poorly. Credit to both goalies for keeping it close. I assume we are seeing some measure of reversion after pre-break high water mark. The problem with stealing games and loser points is it masks what might be a return to bad habits. I see coasting, weak forechecking, sloppy passing, but also stellar Skinner and Kane, reliable Hyman and RNH. Hope everyone’s right about McDrai, probably are right about McD, Drai is a mystery.

Durag

We really need McDavid and Draisaitl to shake off the hangovers

W

Flying back to Edm for a practice only to fly back east doesn’t seem like a smart move.

godot10

They were in the Caribbean before the All-Star game. They were on an Eastern clock for over a week. They probably stayed on Eastern Time back in Edmonton.

Faustkarz

not an nhl player but an edmonton ex-patriate in halifax

i stay on AST time especially during winter and with securities being my trade

why yes i will take 9 am sunrise

think oilers more just all star hangover than anything do with time zone wise

OriginalPouzar

When I first saw that they were coming back to Edmonton, I questioned if it made sense or was the smart move. When I thought about it though, if they didn’t, they’d be gone from home for over two weeks – I know part of it was a vacation and the work part was at the beach but they do have things like dogs and that does matter I’m sure.

officezombie

You’re suggesting they don’t have anyone else to look after their dogs for a few days?

OriginalPouzar

I’m suggesting they would like to see their dogs (among other things re: being at home as opposed to gone for over 2 weeks).

Reja

I would say it has more to do with Woman. I do remember when I was young crawling over broken glass to see my Girlfriend. Taking a 5 hour flight where you can sleep is Childs play.

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registerme

McD and Drai need to show up. Bad games from them both last two. Team seems to go as they go.

OriginalPouzar

Oh well, gained a point on Seattle and Calgary and Colorado.

Hope they get their legs (and brains) for the weekend.

KnightRain

I’m ok with only getting a point. We don’t deserve even that. Good on Skinner. He earned us that point.
Can’t expect to only play 15 hard minutes and win a game.
Three questions for next game.
Do we learn from this?
Who starts next game? Stew was outstanding(shootout aside).
Does anyone come out? Ryan? Janmark? Foggy? I’d take out any of those three but Klim’s toughness keeps him in the game.

Gerta Rauss

Quick turnaround – 12:30 ET start in Ottawa

I think I’d start Campbell then Skinner Sunday but we’ll see

I might throw Jesse in assuming he’s still an Oiler

9:30am start in BC – I may have to set my alarm LoL

KnightRain

After that stellar display, I would give Stew the start. Campbell can start the next two after that. Whoever plays best keeps it going.
I love the early weekend games. Lotsa day left afterwards. My wife loves em cuz it’s to early to have an adult beverage. lol

Victoria Oil

9:30?! I’m barely out of bed at that time most days. Will have to PVR the game the night before.

Gerta Rauss

LoL…that’s what I’m saying about setting my alarm clock

And I’ve got news for you – the Sunday game is 9:30 am as well

OriginalPouzar

I’d put Puljujarvi in for Ryan (or Kostin).

Ryan with the 7th forward on the PK so that shouldn’t be an issue. He’s the only natural RS center but was 3 for 8 on the draw.

KnightRain

I would take out Ryan as well. I like him and he’s a smart player but he does his best work lower in the lineup with less minutes. He shouldn’t be on a line with McDavid. Ever. It might be Jesse’s swan song game so why not give him a whirl with Connor for old time sake.

jp

Too bad they couldn’t pull it out in the SO.

Not a great game from what I saw (about half of it) but I’m not going to get too down on a team that’s now 8-0-2 in their last 10.

Also gained points on Seattle, Calgary, Colorado and probably Minnesota tonight. Likely fall one back of Vegas, but overall they took a half step forward with the point.

hunter1909

Oilers lucky to escape with a loser point tonight.

Horrible game to watch. Flyers are the new California Golden Seals – they make you play down to their gutter level.

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Durag

That effort is probably good for a 4-0 loss most nights

KnightRain

Agreed. Stew stole us that point. Nobody else came to play. Except maybe in the last 12-14 mins.

KnightRain

If anything, I think they elevated their game playing us. They skated hard, we’re physical and won most board battles. We had no answer except in the last half of the third.

Scungilli Slushy

If what the Flyers did matters at all there are problems

The other team doesn’t matter if you want to win. Maybe the Bolts or Bruins should create sweat this year

OriginalPouzar

The Bolts lost the Panthers 7-1 and then lost to the Sharks.

The Bruins have lots to the Coyotes, among others in the bottom 10.

Its disappointing to have two lacklustre efforts coming out of the break but the idea (that you have posted) that, essentially, the team should be on their game for 82 straight and other teams do, doesn’t seem based in any sort of reasonableness.

Gerta Rauss

missed opportunity tonight

KnightRain

Nuge makes that look easy…

LMHF#1

I don’t understand why teams shoot first. Go second.

SK Oiler Fan

Stealth Nuge

flyfish1168

Is it really possible the Flyers are saints and truly played a penality-free game

SK Oiler Fan

What a fine bunch of gentlemen

KnightRain

I don’t actually recall anything that should’ve been called, really. I though it was a call when McDavid went down but the review showed he just stumbled.
We didn’t make them work hard enough to take a penalty…

flyfish1168

The most obvious miss was Nurse’s helmet being pulled off

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Bob was apoplectic on the radio (while I was driving home) about 7 Flyers on the ice at one point.

KnightRain

Geez nurse. Making everything look hard…

leadfarmer

nurse showing those soft hands this overtime
le sigh

LMHF#1

I don’t often give credit to the goalie against the Oilers, because it’s usually bad shooting rather than the effort of the goaltender.

But tonight Hart is having a hell of a game.

Lucinius

If nothing else, Calgary lost, Colorado will lose while we get a point minimum. Sadly, looks like Vegas is also going to win tonight.

Someone

Seattle also lost

OriginalPouzar

Avs being blown out by the TBL (5-0) who had recently lost 7-1 to FLA then lost to SJS.

Flames lose in regulation to Detroit.

SEA down by a goal to Jersey with a minute left.

Vegas with a couple goal lead on Minny but half a game to go.

Jaxon

Vegas gained a point tonight, but they lost their starting goaltender. Not sure how bad the injury is yet. Plus they’ve been on a terrible run prior to tonight’s game since Stone got injured. With Thompson possibly out, it doesn’t look good for Vegas, which is good for Edmonton. Seattle is also on a bad stretch with 2 losses in a row and 4-5-1 in their last 10.

McDavid and Draisaitl won’t be slowed down for long. I expect them to explode with some big games again soon.

I’m surprisingly optimistic after a loss where they got outplayed by a not-good team.

Faustkarz

dont tell harper

somehow the oilers are still the worst team in the pacific to him

leadfarmer

What a save by Skinner

Material Elvis

Well at least one Bettman point thanks to Skinner.

DevilsLettuce

Sure hope Nurse decides to pass this OT lol

jp

Ooh, didn’t see how close that Kane wraparound was until seeing the replay. Damn.

Material Elvis

Did you see Kane raise his arms? That was going in. He looked really fast on that play, too.

jp

Yup he looked fast.

Really glad he was able to get healed and back playing so he should be in top form well in advance of the playoffs.

Gerta Rauss

Keep pushing here…the refs want to give the Oilers a PP

jp

That Nuge line has been excellent this period.

OriginalPouzar

I’ve seen them poor for quite a while but, yes, I agree, much better in the 3rd – two or three solid o-zone possession shifts.

jp

Oh yeah, not saying they’ve been playing well generally, that’s part of why I mentioned it.

They do have some real nice skill to them though, at both ends.

Tarkus

Summarizing!

Petrov figured in both NB goals, picking up 1+1 in a 4-2 loss. He was named 3rd star for his efforts.

SK Oiler Fan

When is the last time the team formerly known as Broad Street Bullies went through an entire game without committing an infraction?
Ed Snider is crawling out of his grave

KnightRain

Finally some urgency!!! Keep it going!!!

flyfish1168

Some form of game management is at work here

GarbanzoHumanBean

Oilers have to get a PP don’t they?

OriginalPouzar

Apparently not….

KassHat

Im cheering for the Flyers now. This team needs the lesson.

GarbanzoHumanBean

You just want to be ahead of the curve if the oilers lose. The broken hearted fan’s lament.

GarbanzoHumanBean

Lessons don’t require losses.

OriginalPouzar

In the last calendar year, the team has the fourth best points percentage in the league and made the final four in the only playoffs.

They are 8-0-1 (now 8-0-2) in their last number of games.

That’s two sloppy low energy games coming out of a long break – its not good but I’m thinking this is a bit aggressive.

Spartacus

Gross.

KnightRain

Thought they are calling a penalty…almost lost my shot…gotta get another drink…

David

I think it was Sean McIndoe (but maybe another athletic writer) who once said that with how inconsistent goaltender interference is called, the best predictor is simply was the contact in the blue paint or not?

Ever since then I have using that as my predictor and it seems to be fairly effective for determining which way it will go.

For this one, definitely non-homer Louie’s case about Hart moving into Foegele’s path sounded pretty convincing to me but I assumed with the contact being in the crease it would be called back.

David

I also think Hart sold it at the end once he realized the puck was behind him.

Spartacus

You should assume ALL calls will go against the Oilers and you’ll seldom be disappointed.

Lucinius

Rightfully called back, sadly. Would be nice for one of those to go our way, but right call nonetheless.

Spartacus

Wrong.

Gerta Rauss

This might get called back

KnightRain

Guy has to try get outta the way, right? Damn. No effort from foggy…we’ll see…

jp

Damn. No effort from foggy…

What??

KnightRain

To not hit the goalie.

jp

He was literally in the process of shooting when he bumped into Hart.

I guess he could have aborted the scoring chance so he wouldn’t make contact?

OriginalPouzar

Ya, I think that’s the rule – can’t drive the net and run in to the tender in the crease.

jp

Not saying it should have been a good goal.

Foegele was called out for lack of effort in trying to avoid the contact.

That I don’t agree with.

KnightRain

BOOM!!! Hyman cleans up the garbage!!! Let’s see the challenge…

OriginalPouzar

That’s totally goalie interference – that should come back.

jp

Yeah I dunno if they let that one count.

Hockey Project

Maybe Louie wasn’t the only one who over-did it with the cheesesteaks.

edit – LOL! Of course they score 10 seconds after I post that.

Last edited 1 year ago by Hockey Project