I always think the perfect deadline is adding responsible, two-way players. Guys like Fernando Pisani, Michael Peca, if Jeff Petry were younger. That kind of player. The Oilers are going to bring in a veteran and I believe he’ll be famous. Names like Vladimir Tarasenko, Jordan Eberle, Adam Henrique, Sean Monahan, Chris Tanev. I have 11 names in all. Please proceed.
THE ATHLETIC!
- New Lowetide: What’s changed for Oilers’ Evan Bouchard in his impact season?
- New DNB: Quizzing Oilers All-Star Leon Draisaitl on the top 10 NHL goalies he’s scored against
- Lowetide: Everything that went right for the Oilers in their perfect January
- DNB: Ranking the Oilers’ top 5 trade assets: Which ones could be in play?
- Lowetide: Will the Edmonton Oilers go all-in at the 2024 trade deadline?
- Lowetide: Which Edmonton Oilers prospects spiked in January?
- DNB: Jeff Jackson Q&A
- Lowetide: Why Oilers defenceman Vincent Desharnais’ next contract could be bigger than expected
- DNB: Oilers winning streak lives, but improvement is needed: ‘We got a lot more in our group’
- Lowetide: Why Oilers forward Sam Gagner is having success in his role
- DNB: Stuart Skinner’s superb play should give Oilers more trade deadline flexibility
- DNB: Why Oilers signing Corey Perry isn’t a surprise — even in these circumstances
- Lowetide: How the Oilers winning the Stanley Cup in 2024 could impact future
- Lowetide: Ranking Edmonton Oilers GM Ken Holland’s 10 biggest moves
- Lowetide: Edmonton Oilers top 20 prospects ranking, winter 2023
TRADE TALK
NHL Watcher on twitter has Chris Johnston talking Oilers. Johnston is quotes as saying Edmonton would like to add a forward. He lists Jake Guentzel and Jordan Eberle, but also says the Penguins and Kraken are still in the playoff hunt and Pittsburgh is hoping to sign Guentzel.
The Oilers have some encouraging cap options. If I understand things correctly.
The Oilers found a way to shoehorn Mattias Ekholm and Nick Bjugstad in at last year’s deadline. You may recall Tyson Barrie and Jesse Puljujarvi were sent away to make the cap work. This season, if the club wanted to acquire (say) Jake Guentzel, Ken Holland would need to identify a roster player who could be sacrificed to make the money work. Candidates most often mentioned are Brett Kulak and Jack Campbell.
I don’t see Campbell being dealt, the cost would be too dear. I can see the club moving Kulak, though. Philip Broberg is a solid alternative and would save some coin. I also think Holland won’t hesitate to make a deal that allows another team to retain. That could be a third club brought in strictly to make the money work. Here are the candidates I think the Oilers might be looking at currently.
- RW Jake Guentzel. The absolute Cadillac of acquisitions for Edmonton. He scores well, plays a complete game and take on elites morning, noon and night. The worry? Less effective without Crosby. He’ll cost a king’s ransom.
- RD Chris Tanev is older, injury prone and past his prime. He’s also the one true option available to replace Cody Ceci. I wouldn’t do it. You could deal for him and have a hole in the top-four D one week later. Ceci is more durable and he’s here at a reasonable cap number.
- RW Tomas Tatar. He’s inexpensive, having a great season and the player card looks good from here. I think Seattle won’t be a seller, but if they decide to offload, Tatar could be a very nice fit in Edmonton.
- RW Vladimir Tarasenko. I think he might be a Holland target, and the offensive explosiveness is compelling. Tarasenko is like a box of chocolates, but in a shoot the moon scenario he’s a valuable option.
- LC Adam Henrique. He’s always on the Oilers acquisition list whenever reaching free agency (if Edmonton is a contender). Henrique is a center, and maybe the Oilers grab a winger. However, he has great utility (PP, PK, faceoffs) and a wealth of experience. Rachel Doerrie mentioned him as a strong candidate for the Oilers on her Monday Lowdown hit on Sports 1440.
- LC Sean Monahan. I’m much stronger on Henrique than Monahan, but the Oilers could slide both players into an easy minutes, kill the soft parade role. I think Monahan would do well there.
- RW Tyler Toffoli. A favourite of Tyler Yaremchuk for Edmonton at the deadline, his numbers this year are good not great. Everyone reaches the tipping point, Toffoli might be in the neighbourhood right now. He would be worth acquiring for sure, but no extensions.
- RW Jordan Eberle. I confess to being a sentimental fool, but the idea of Jordan Eberle coming back for the final push has great appeal. It’s like Rusty Staub with the Expos in 1979. Scoring has eroded but his possession numbers are quite good.
- RW Daniel Sprong. One dimensional, but it’s a fantastic dimension.
- RD Zach Bogosian has been doing good work for the Minnesota Wild and would work well in a depth role. He’s exactly the kind of player Holland likes to acquire at the deadline. Edmonton has been getting these fellows to help win Stanley going all the way back to Rick Chartraw and Larry Melnyk.
- G Cam Talbot. He has a no-trade clause, and LAK are in this thing, but if the losing continues it’s possible Talbot would waive for a chance at Stanley. He is exactly the kind of goalie Holland would pursue.
At noon today, we kickstart the weekend on Sports 1440! Steve Lansky will bring it in regard to All-Star weekend, what to expect from the Oilers in the second half and what fresh hell is the two-week layoff in Oilers hockey. Tyler Yaremchuk from Daily Faceoff will give us a feel for AS weekend and we’ll talk about Tyler Toffoli and others at the deadline. Bruce Curlock from Oilers Nation will give his opinions on the Bakersfield Condors halfway through the year. You can reach me at Lowetide on twitter, in the comments section or on the Sports 1440 text line at 1.833.401.1440 directly.
I have a lot of time for Toffolli
idk what the cost would be but I figure a 1st
honestly. I could see a depth insurance player and keeping the powder dry as the best option
Congrats to Connor for winning the skills and the redesign as well. I typically don’t watch it at all but it was enjoyable, especially the 1 on 1. (Bieksa said it’s a game they play called “juice boy”)
I like how the events taxed them physically and they had to keep pushing, just like a game situation. Everyone loves the fastest skater because the players go all out so it was nice to see more of that in other events.
Only change I would make – have the $1M go to charity. The players could talk about their charities on the broadcast, it would make good TV.
I just looked up juice boy and this article was near the top- about the OKC Barons around the lockout.
https://www.oklahoman.com/story/sports/2014/01/16/okc-barons-juice-boy-competition-adds-some-fun-to-barons-practices/60851663007/
I would pad the boards for fastest skater skill
0.5 mill for player and 0.5 for charity would also be a good way to do it. I know the players don’t need it but like it or not they compete for that kind of money.
If NJ falls out of contention I’m looking at Colin Miller as 3RD insurance, 500 games, 40 playoff games.
He’s a suitcase, which probably means other GMs routinely covet him.
Can anyone weigh in on his advanced stats? Where do I find that WAR graph.
Instead of the ridiculous way I just saw how they pick the All Star teams – why not make them divisional?
You could have the division with the best record play the 4th best division, and the 2nd meets 3rd in the other Original 6 style playoff.
This is hardly rocket science.
I think McD’s focus was on keeping it fun for the players. Captains format resembles more enjoyable drills at hockey camp and so on.
Summarizing!
Lachance scored his 9th goal of the season, a PP tally.
Copponi procured an apple.
Day allowed three goals on 24 SOG in a loss.
Mazura was held off the scoresheet.
Stonehouse was not in the lineup this eve.
Its good that LaChance remained a PP factor as Curlock mentioned he was moved from the 2nd to 4th line.
He is a freshman. The fact he played in the top-six F at any time this season is a victory.
Looks like the Condors win 5-3 over Texas.
Rodrigue overcame a rough start (3GA on the first 7SA I believe) to shut the door.
Hamblin with a goal and 2 helpers.
Bourgault with 1G/1A (nice to see him score).
I didn’t watch, but looks like a very strong game for the team. Outshot Texas 38-24 overall, and 27-10 through 2 periods (score effects in the 3rd).
Maybe also worth noting..
The Bourgault goal was SH to open the scoring, assisted by Hamblin.
The Hamblin goal was an EN to finish the scoring, assisted by Bourgault.
I love having Hamblin available for depth. And Bourgault is clearly playing the difficult minutes with him (I’ll take that as a positive even though his scoring has been very disappointing this season).
Just watched the 7 minute highlight package – damn, what a game to miss for a rare date night.
Condors stopped on 3 SH breakaways one PK and may have had 7 in the game.
Bourgault with the beauty SH breakaway goal.
Wanner mashing bodies and sniping.
Rodrigue seems to have finished strong but there was 3 goals in six shots early and a 4th that was an awful goal on Oly but was called back for a kick (weird call).
Stauffer and Seravelli discussing Koneckny. He would be a fun get. Seravelli thinks Philly would move him
That’s OUR All-Star All-Star!
There seems to be a lot more downside to pulling the trigger on a deal right now. Very real chance of spending assets to acquire a player who is a marginal improvement on paper, shipping out someone like Kulak… and the team getting worse. Either the new acquisition doesn’t gel with linemates or they get injured (whereas we seem to have a lot of Ironman types right now).
My hope is Holland holds until he sees the next few games against strong opposition. If the Oilers keep winning, maybe its just a few depth picks for some bottom six help and injury insurance.
Kulak is one of the last guys I want to trade right now. Seems every year around the deadline, people forget how good he is in the playoffs.
1) I agree with Sanderson but I think he’ll wait more than a few games but in to March (accrue more cap and require less cap for the acquired player and, of course, its still not known where to spend assets and cap space).
2) BIAGJ, where do you move cap out in order bring cap in if not Kulak? Not saying I want to move Kualk but, if they want to bring in a real player, well……
Depends on the target and cost.
Corey Perry is more than enough brand new players for a team with a 16 game winning streak to resume building on next week.
For me the LD is written in pen down though Broberg.
Not saying the Oilers have that outlook mind you.
The guy I have interest in is Travis Konecny. If Philly doesn’t think he’ll sign long term, and they don’t think they’ll make a run, he MAY be available. It would require a lot of assets out, as well as cap space to make it work, but he would be perfect. Awful to play against and can play a complete game. I think he is taylor made for the playoffs. The odds are very low he’s available, but I would be inquiring.
— That Monaghan Canadiens transactions are master class : get a first rounder and. Pay only part of salary to take him on. Then get another 1st to trade him….
— A lot is riding on this trade deadline for the Oil. Hollands last shot : if Ekholm vintage game on. Circa AA however, less so….
I’m expecting another shock trade for a 1st class player, at the deadline or near to it.
A player in the Ekholm range.
That or (next to) nothing.
Stellar broadcasting by Sportsnet, showing a nothingburger interview between Bieksa and Barzal instead of Sid feeding Leon passes. During the actual competition.
Brutal, espn did a fine job.
this was watchable
plus McDavid wins
The problem their producers and directors have is that they are forced to come up with hours upon hours of seemingly relevant content; but in truth it takes a whole new kind of dull and prepared to pander to whatever lowest common denomenator the NHL fans present to their focus groups etc, lol
I know the waiver wire isn’t something we really need to discuss, but I’d have time for Julien Gauthier. He’s one of the fastest players in the league (#3 behind Mackinnon & McLeod) and has quite a shot on him. Imperfect in the other domains of play but has 3 things I value in a depth player.
That having been said, I don’t see a spot for him on the roster right now as I don’t think there’s anyone I’d send down in favour of him.
What’s the third thing you value in a depth player? Size?
Yes 🙂
I am not sure I understand the Guentzal rumors. I thought he was a LW?
I guess that would free up RNH or McLeod to play centre. And he is really good.
Seems like there are more pressing needs.
Now that Lindholm is gone I am all aboard the Carrier train.
TJ Oshie has long been a favourite of mine. Having a down year. Two years left at $5.75MM. 37 years old, so aligns with Holland’s preferred vintage. Worth a look with 50% retention (would be $125,000 more than Foegele is now)? WSH has gone stale, he might be revived with Connor and Leon.
Fanices this year show a dip relative to established past. Getting killed against middle comp while somehow running 0% on-ice SH% and very poor SV%. DFF% rel and Corsi rel are positive against Elite & Grits.
Source: https://puckiq.com/players/8471698
Source: https://www.capfriendly.com/scouting-reports/players/tj-oshie
I think there are better ways to spend the $$$.
Even at 50% retained, there is a lot of risk in acquiring a 37 year old winger.
Agreed. Mostly (95%). Oshie has skill and will, and still gets to the right spot. Is he at the cliff now, or is this a blip? Tough to tell from here.
I’m just casting about some of the suspect rosters or ones trending toward a rebuild for potentially useful pieces to acquire. Preferably with a bit of term.
Per LeBrun – the asking price on Chris Tanev is a 2nd and a prospect.
That’s a very reasonable price. If you can make the money work and keep Cody Ceci, that would be incredible. No disrespect to Vinny D, but the Oilers are an injury away from catastrophe at RD.
I will never understand deadline prices.
Neither do GMs.
Unless Bro could cover.
Coming out of the All star break the Oilers must find out what Warren’s contract wants are, then make an immediate decision.
If they can come to agreement on a 1 or 2yr pact that benefits both sides, get it done.
If they can’t, they must sell high and bring in an top 6 RW. Guentz, Tarasenko, other.. Foegele ++ and focus on what to do with the Defense.
.. is the Ceci upgrade playing Vinny in that spot? Move Ceci down to play with Kulak?
Rest some vets down the stretch, rotate Broberg in, then deal with the defense dilemma come summer?
Can the Oilers pay Bouchard & Vinny to play RD with Ek and Nurse?
Trade Nurse(I like Nurse, he’s awesome) so you can keep everything else?
The more and more my thoughts twist wondering the factors, it’s all ON Foggys demands and they’re probably trading Nurse some point sooner then later… so what are they thinking in building the back end. Is Broberg stepping into the Nurse spot in the near future?
Imo..Foegele will be looking to cash in, famous name is coming back.
Ceci might be heading out, otherwise defense will be dealt with in the summer with a Nurse and Ceci departure.
Ek/Bouch
Broberg/Vinny
Kulak/unknown
I could see that happening come fall.
MAF is coming in for the end push.
I don’t see any advantage to selling at the deadline. Treat Foegele as a free rental and deal with the contract later.
I agree.
I mean, if Foegele is part of a deal that helps the team win this year (a reasonable deal), sure, move him but the fact he may walk for nothing next season should be a complete non-factor.
Deadline adds are almost always overpays. In the long run, that’s bad for your team. Carolina has refused to pay big, instead picking up guys like Burns and Pacioretty in the off-season for nothing. Despite lacking big-time offensive firepower, they’re competitive year in and year out.
Last year, for 31 games of an ineffective Nick Bjugstad, we traded Mike Kesselring (alredy 31 games for Arizona this year!). And Bjugstad ended up back in Arizona.
We are on a 16-game winning streak. We just added a guy with playoff bona fides. We have no glaring holes. But sportswriters have to push deadline deals.
Trading a fourth-rounder for defensive depth? OK, fine. But I, for one, do NOT want to pay a first-rounder-plus for a Sean Monahan equivalent.
I’ve said many times here, back when I had a need for one, I used to always buy my winter jackets, usually from Henry Singer or the old Holt Renfrew in the spring. The discounts were incredible bordering on astonishing. Sometimes, I’d buy two or three.
Montreal just pulled off a wacky version of the Yen Carry trade, effectively turning Monohan into Dach.
Holland has made the mistake of frittering away a lot of draft picks, especially years where the team wasn’t likely to win.
Normally, I would agree with you, but this is definitely the year.
I think our 1st gets traded and this is the year to shove the stack of chips into the middle of the table.
Outstanding reference to the yen carry trade, brings me back to my Tokyo days. “Picking up pennies in front of a steam-roller,” critics would call it.
I have one friend with a yen-denominated mortgage for an overseas property, and his interest rate has tripled since he initiated the loan (that is, he is now paying 1.5%, up from 0.5%). I’m still cross-eyed with envy.
Does your Carolina example not provide evidence against your premise?
They are one of the poster-teams for “great regular season / disappointing playoffs” – if anything, they are an organization that has not done enough in-season/at the trade deadline to put them over the top an make the finals/win a cup, no?
The Svechnikov injury had something to do with their loss last year – and they still made it to the Conference championship. The previous two years, they went two rounds. They’ve won more playoff rounds than we have in the past three years.
I don’t know if I’d consider them as “disappointing playoffs”. Every year, probably 8 or so teams are legit Cup contenders. (This isn’t the ’80s.) Only half of them will even make it to the conference finals.
Not really sure the concern about this regarding Guentzel, if he does end up as an Oiler he will be playing with either McDavid or Draisaitl (and at times, potentially both). The cost will certainly hurt.
I am also a sentimental fool. Gagner and Eberle returning to win a cup with Nuge would be like something out of Spiderman No Way Home (Hall instead of Gagner would fit in better for the analogy but that ain’t gonna happen). I guess Perry would be Dr Octopus, villain turned good guy.
Love the analogy. Woodcroft can be Dr. Strange, because he wouldn’t be listened to. Spec can be J. Jonah Jameson for obvious reasons.
I was thinking Woodcroft was Aunt May, his “death” being the firing.
This is perfect lol
Concern on Guentzel is you’re paying a high price for a rental who doesn’t push the river. I would still make the deal, but there is a downbeat.
He’s stapled to Crosby, but years and years of small sample size WOWYs (Guentzel without Crosby) are ghastly.
Like really concerning. Yikes.
https://thehockeywriters.com/canada-projected-roster-olympics-2026/
I don’t mean to dump on anyone, but I don’t know if you could come up with a worse roster than this if you tried.
Honest question, but do you actually put any stock into
clickbait centralTHW?Fluff articles like that are purposely designed to increase their comments and clicks, so they can drive up ad revenue. Certainly not for serious hockey discussion.
No, I can’t honestly say I regularly read it. I was just looking for any projected rosters out there and this was the only one I found. And it was so hilariously bad I couldn’t keep it to myself.
Dubois…. if he is on the Canadian roster, we are doomed.
I’ll dump on him… this is borderline idiotic clickbait.
PLD should be nowhere near this roster. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
Chychrun over Bouchard is just laughably stupid.
Not having Skinner, one of the best Canadian goaltenders in the league, is just vitriolic trolling.
And to top it off… you put Crosby and McDavid on the same roster, and have them on separate lines? Tell me the author is not Canadian without telling me the author is not Canadian.
PLD and Chychrun don’t belong anywhere near team Canada. McCann, Chabot and Cozens are “Meh” picks, but definitely serviceable players.
Nurse and Bouch on team Canada wound be dreamy as an Oilers fan, but not probable to have both.
— Not surprised but disappointed with hockey I. Olympics. – it’s sucks too much oxygen out of the other sports.
— The IOC and IIHF are criminal gangster organizations as well. No doubt they will find a way to include all countries as well, despite recent bans.
— Best on best is sorely missed. I just wish it was in a different venue.
As opposed to the NHL, a bastion of ethics and values that takes care of it’s players and has no corruption whatsoever 🙂
— well that’s another conversation all together… The IOC however is next level. Every time the Olympics come on I vow not to watch due to the criminal nature at the core of the IOC but get drawn in because of athletes and sport.
Colton Sissons. One of those guys I’ve watched from afar and wondered why the Oilers never acquire.
He’s competitive. Also expensive compared to Dowd or Evans, coming in at $2.857MM AAV for two more seasons after this. Does play on PP2, generally good for about 30P/year. Nearly break even in Corsi rels, underwater in DFF%rel, GF% is a bit of a dog’s breakfast, low PDO and shooting% compared to career norms.
Source: https://puckiq.com/players/8476925
Source: https://www.capfriendly.com/scouting-reports/players/colton-sissons
Would the Oilers consider Phil Kessel – Veteran, kinda famous, not sure about the 2 way play but won’t cost any picks. Thoughts?
I think Jagr is still playing somewhere!
He is. For his home town Kladno. 51 years young.
https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/8627/jaromir-jagr
Doesn’t he also own the team?
Lots of talk about acquiring a RW or RHC, but the add is like to see most is a middle 6 LW, followed by a 4 or 3C.
Right now, RNH and Holloway are lining up at LW but can and have slid into the centre spot, and if there’s an injury the LW skill depth isn’t great, since it looks like Foegele is better as RW.
I think you can get a winger with skill for the same cost or cheaper than a bottom 6 pivot too, so if there’s only a small move without sending out cap, that would be my vote. But either I think would work, and I think they need to do at least one before they contemplate another goalie or depth defenseman.
Its been confirmed that a grievance has been filed on behalf of Perry in connection with his contract termination.
This absolutely had to happen. I mean, as of now, Chicago was able to terminate a contract (with no financial or cap consequence), citing cause, but yet the player was eligible to sign with another team as a UFA promptly.
There is no way that precedent was going to be set.
I’m sure there will be a “settlement” with a financial payout to Perry and a cap hit allocated to the Hawks (retroactively to this season).
The updates provided by Marty Walsh of the PA this afternoon suggest the deadline (Jan 30) has been extended
His timeline ran out, so we want to make sure we have enough time to continue forward,” Walsh said.
Reading between the lines, the extension allows the NHLPA to keep open the threat of filing a grievance — and NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly indeed said Friday a grievance had been “threatened” — while likely pushing for a settlement.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/blackhawks/2024/2/2/24059602/corey-perry-contract-grievance-blackhawks-nhl-nhlpa-deadline-misconduct
This story ran about 6 hours ago, perhaps I’m overlooking a more current story
Jake Evans. Higher AAV than Dowd ($1.7MM), pending UFA, generally fewer points/year, less physical. Counted on for PK work.
Higher than ideal deployment against elites, mix of +/- rels in DFF and Corsi but not as severe as Dowd. Also running hot in PDO. +GF against elites, in the red otherwise.
Source: https://puckiq.com/players/8478133
Source: https://www.capfriendly.com/scouting-reports/players/jake-evans
I wanted Evans in the North Division year. Every time we played the Habs that year, he’s the Hab I noticed most for good things every game. Then Scheifele conkied him in the playoffs and he’s never quite been the same.
Interesting. The guy I noticed most (aside from their top players) in that season was Alexander Romanov.
After digging into the three I posted about today I’d have to say I’m leaning more towards Dowd. Extra year of term, lower AAV, bit higher ceiling. Not that I’d be upset with Evans, but I’m less sure he’s the guy for me at this point.
Nic Dowd. Would be a good bet to contribute in the bottom six, especially as 4C who could move up as 3C in case of injury/slump or McLeod moving up to top-6 wing. Love the AAV ($1.3MM this year and next).
Sky high PDO buoyed by an insane SV%, +GF (see: PDO), -rels in DFF (double digit!) and Corsi, ridiculous deployment against elites (43.2% TOI).
Source: https://puckiq.com/players/8475343
Source: https://www.capfriendly.com/scouting-reports/players/nic-dowd
“The Oilers are going to bring in a veteran and I believe he’ll be famous”
This statement looks somewhat redundant as most veterans are at least somewhat famous. And we also know Dutch Jackson has just added a famous veteran. There is also nothing in Holland’s past to suggest that fame is any sort of influencing factor. Fame sells papers though…
What we do know is part of Holland’s MO is that he has stated many times that if he’s giving up big assets, he wants it to be for players that aren’t simply rentals. A list of players who are simply rentals and too expensive to re-sign is probably nowhere near over-the-target.
A search should probably be aimed at either depth rentals easy to fit into the cap and low asset cost, or stronger players either under contract or on expiring contracts that would be happy to sign in Edmonton and don’t require a big re-up. Eberle would qualify if he has the skillset the org is looking for. Not sure he does. Tarasenko and Guentzel would not.
Ekholm is the poster boy for such a trade. Who is the cost-controlled Ekholm at forward and going forward? If there’s a splash deal, that’s what it will look like.
(Now we can’t eliminate the Jackson half of Dutch Jackson from the equation either. Jackson might be more amenable to spending assets with less long term return than Holland has been. But being a rookie, we know nothing about his personal philosophy.)
Foegele is likely the most vulnerable forward on the roster, not because of his play or production, but because what his performance will mean for re-signing him. Cost is also exactly what protects Broberg and Lavoie. I think LT got that bit right above. They’re vulnerable, but also unlikely to be dealt. I think Dutch Jackson would pull the trigger if the deal was perfect, but won’t do anything risky or reachy involving either player.
I think the org would ideally like to keep the roster as intact as possible for a Stanley run. Add rather than swap. But I also don’t think they would ignore a good swap if it was out there, which is why there are vulnerable players.
Those proposing multiple splash deals are completely out to lunch IMO. Again we can’t eliminate the Jackson factor, but if THAT is his particular MO, we’ve probably got a lot of years of hell ahead of us.
Cost doesn’t protect Broberg if it is the price of getting rid of Campbell’s contract. And Seattle is clearly a team that might be interested in such a deal.
I’m not following.
Why would Seattle clearly maybe be interested in a Cambpell/Broberg deal?
Dunn, Dumoulin, and Broberg would be a solid left defense.
Seattle doesn’t really have a strong set of young potential D on their depth chart.
Well Oleksiak plays LD also (I know he’s played RD at times, but he shoots left and is playing with Borgen this season).
Dunn/Dumolin/Oleksiak is a pretty strong left side, and all are signed through next season as well.
Seattle doesn’t need Broberg any more than the Oilers do as far as I can see.
Oleksiak and Dumoulin are both in their early thirties. (Ditto Schultz and Larsson). Do they really want to replay this season next year, with all those guys a year older? Broberg would really be replacing Schultz, and Oleksiak (or Broberg) the right side).
Monahan is a sensible add for the Winnipeg Jets.
Cheveldayoff targets players he feels he can re-sign, like he did with Neiderreiter. Of course, he failed to re-sign Paul Stastny and Kevin Hayes after paying a 1st for each of those players, but it wasn’t for lack of trying. The weather in Winnipeg really really sucks.
The Jets have cap space and a need for a middle-six center. They’re a contender to sign Monahan, and laugh about the fact they have a better player, along with Iafallo & Villardi for the same cap hit as PLayboy Dude in L.A.
One thing for playoff context – icetime expectations on defence.
The Oilers have at least 3 guys who will be playing huge, disproportionate minutes each night come playoff time. It happens every year.
I’d be perfectly content with who they have 7-10 on the depth chart playing a few minutes a couple times if needed.
It’ll be interesting to see how this trade deadline plays out.
I realize it’s a pipedream and the player not likely available, but I think the perfect fit on RW is Travis Konecny. Can score goals, good playmaker, great motor. I like that he has an additional year on the contract before Draisaitl needs to be extended.
I’m not smart enough to figure out the cap gymnastics, but it would require moving out Ceci with a low-cost replacement. Say, Carrier at 50% ($1.25M). One of Kulak/Foegele would also need to be moved.
Not sure it’s doable, but the forward group would be formidable.
I like him as a target too. Seems more like a Holland acquisition due to remaining term.
Unsure of the acquisition cost, but worth several phone calls.
I don’t think Philly is going to go full re-build. Undoubtedly they value Konecny very highly and prefer to sign him.
As the Oilers can’t afford him after the 24-25 season he’d be a very very expensive add for 1.5 seasons.
My trade proposal: since we know that Holland won’t pay the first round pick for a rental player, I think he’ll try to pitch “2nd + prospect” instead. Like this:
To Ottawa:
Lavoie or Bourgault
EDM 2024 2nd round pick
To Buffalo (or similar)
EDM 2024 5th round pick
Tarasenko ($2.5M retained)
To Edmonton
Tarasenko ($3.75M retained)
So Ottawa retains 50% and Buffalo a further 50%. That second retention will cost Buffalo something like $250k if the transaction is completed at the deadline, so a 5th seems about right.
This way Edmonton keeps its 2024 1st round pick to be used in an Ekholm-style deal for a player who has term, preferably a top-4 RHD so we can upskill Ceci.
Arizona owns Edmonton’s 2024 2nd from the Kassian disposition.
But overall this is a sound framework.
No, the Kassian deal was the 2024 3rd and the 2025 2nd. Edmonton still owns their 2024 2nd.
NHL’ers will participate in the 2026 and 2030 Winter Olympics.
Great news for the sport.
Let the speculation for ’26 begin – what, if anything, will ‘Russia’ look like? Will 87 make Canada’s team as a ‘Lemieux in ’02’ nod? Could we see Skinner in net?
And, at this point, it must be asked – Can anyone beat the Americans?
Will Cale Makar be eligible?
Of course, I know everyone from the 2018 is currently ineligible but, no doubt, with recent events/news he (and others) will be eligible.
I think, as of now, the Canadian goalies are:
Hill
Jarry
Skinner
Ingram
Of course, with goalies, who knows how any of them will be playing in a year.
The US team is going to be very dangerous, my goodness.
It’s crazy how peak Adin Hill (playoffs plus this season) has only been 31 starts.
Curious to see if he can maintain (and so far so good for him).
I mean, they haven’t won an Olympics since 1980.
And I guess they’ve never won one where NHLers involved.
I’m certainly not ready to anoint them as unbeatable.
Darn close in 2010…
in the end their goaltending will be the difference
First game for LA’s interim Hiller behind the bench, at home against EDM on a B2B.
If LA aren’t motivated to dominate then I think they’re cooked.
Will it be a Knobby type of change or an Evason type of change?
All 3 games out of the allstar break have potential to be must watch TV.
Vegas – history, division, tie streak.
Ducks – break record
Kings – history, new coach, hostile barn
Considering how October-mid November went this is a good problem to have.
I think there is some dissension in the dressing room. Doughty publicly criticized the team, saying some players were more interested in points than winning games.
Someone with a better memory than me please advise. Historically, how well do assistant coaches do when stepping into the coaching position?
I know teams have had lots of success when bringing in a new coach from the minors or externally, but can’t recall the last time an assistant coach had as much success.
Craig Berube, Larry Robinson
Stanley Cups.
Right, Berube.
Just looked it up more and the list of interim coaches who won a cup includes Bylsma as well in 2009, but Bylsma was also coaching the Penguins AHL team before becoming the interim coach.
Berube was coaching the Blues AHL team before being assistant coach and then interim coach.
They’re putting a lot of faith into Jim Hiller turning things around.
From the AHL, Mike Sullivan also did it with PIttsburgh.
The Oilers win streak sure has the WC running scared, huh? Now they’re tripping over each other to overpay for mediocre talent.
Huh.
Lindholm isn’t mediocre, nor is he overpaid at the moment.
He’s a passenger, always has been.
McLeod is already better.
Vancouver has the skill to play him with.
Exactly.
He’s a tremdous two way player who thrives on a line with play drivers.
A very good breakdown.
https://theathletic.com/5243038/2024/02/02/elias-lindholm-canucks-film-breakdown/?source=user_shared_articleWhy Elias Lindholm is poised to thrive with the Canucks: Film breakdown
still think it’ll be Tarasenko and an Erik Johnson type of D.
Maybe it’s Kulak sent out to make cap work. At this point Johnson may be close to Kulak in value and almost $2 million less. Holland loves his cup winners.
Erik Johnson is $3.25MM AAV.
That’s a lot to pay for a 5-7 defenseman, right handed or not.
crap. looked at the wrong Johnson for cost on the sabres. yeah I guess half retained might work. Still leaves some money, but not as good at the full price for sure
Rodrigue with the start tonight.
Petrov/Grubbe/Savoie, listed as the 3rd line (for what that’s worth).
I would have liked Monohan as a depth addition to the Oilers but, with the role he would have on the Oilers, 100% not worth a first round pick.
Monohan is having a good offensive season but over half his goals, and half his points, are on the powerplay. I value powerplay points, of course, that value on the PP is essentially gone completely on the Oilers – he would not be anywhere near the first unit PP.
His 5 on 5 offence this season is very marginal and, if I’m not mistaken, he’s never been known as a strong 2-way player.
It would be a solid depth add but the acquisition cost is for a more impactful player.
Winnipeg for sure looks like a better fit given Scheifele’s missing a bit of time. They now have a guy that can play up the lineup if needed.
Even allowing for draft position, it’s a crazy world where you acquire Kirby Dach at 20 with years of team control for a 1st and a third, then sell Monohan as rental for a first and a third.
Monohan is held together by duct tape. I’m glad the Oilers didn’t pay what was a pretty steep price for him.
I wasn’t the first person to bring this up, but if he’s actually available, I think Ryan Hartman might be a good fit. Cheaper cap hit than Ebs, gives an option on RH faceoffs (though I think he’s better as a winger than a center) and can play all over the lineup. He’s annoying to play against. I think he’s settled into a 45-55 pt./80 games sort of offensive tier. They may not want to pull the chute on the season yet, but they’re looking up at the Coyotes in the division. Plus it adds to our collection of wingers/centers with Ryan in their names.
Hartman has already re-signed in Minnesota, 3 years x $4M AAV. Not sure how Edmonton could fit that in.
I really like the idea of prioritizing a 2RW acquisition because of the wonderful things it does for the bottom 6.
93-97-18
37-29-Ebs/Tarasenko
91-71-90
13-55-28
10/89
Holloway has to be in the top 9 because of his speed. McLeod will be less effective with slow and slower for his wingers. Perry will be less effective without McLeod and Holloway.
Vancouver and Winnipeg pay 1st mover disadvantage prices.
Decisive management is not a sin.
Both teams are all in and as we’ve seen from Vegas, Colorado and Tampa fortune favours the bold.
Late first round picks are the currency..
“Decisive management is not a sin.”
It is a sin when management decisively trades
Cal Foote
1st round pick
2nd round pick
3rd round pick
4th round pick
5th round pick
For Tanner Jeannot who has since played 61 games and put up a whopping 16 points.
1 of these 2 teams is already guaranteed to regret their trade
Lindholm is the 2024 version of Huberdeau. Nice acquisition, but the Canucks need the discipline to walk away after the season is over.
What about Chechuryn? I know he’s an LD, but I believe he plays the right side regularly. He would make a nice 2nd pairing with Nurse. And he has a good contract for another year, so not a pure rental. He’s rumoured to be in play, and I believe the sens got him for a first and two seconds? If it’s a similar price he could be a nice add.
He’s more injury prone than Tanev
Ask yourself why he’s already in play, after the splashy trade.
Soft. Made of glass. Uninterested defensively. Overrated.
Broberg is a better player.
Rob Blake paid an over-the-top price to get PLD to the extent that I thought that Valardi for PLD wouldn’t have worked out for the Kings, let alone the total price they paid in the trade. Add the contract, and they’re hooped for years and years.
So… Slice a big piece out of you middle-6 and bring in a single player who has bitched his way out of two franchises before he’s 25. The team PDOs their way to early season success, and when the steak gets turned over, they fire the coach.
I feel bad for Todd.
They were a real bitch to play against last couple of years in the playoffs
I don’t. He refuses to adjust. Always has – apparently always will.
What’s the obsession with Dubois from certain teams? He’s shown literally nothing to suggest he’s the world-beater that these people think.
I get that. Like every coach, he has his blind spots. I also think it’s tough to adjust to your GM carving that much out of the lineup for a single player who then comes in and gives them less than nothing.
Completely agree with you about PLD. I think the concept of guys being team killers is mostly overblown except in the rare case of men like Dick Allen. I also can’t help but leery of players like PLD, who keep finding reasons to demand trades and who, when he wants out, is demonstrably uninvolved on the ice.
The Kings paid too much to get him and then doubled-down with giving him too much AAV. Even Montreal, always hungry for good players from Quebec, backed out of acquiring him.
The PLD trade was a disaster for the Kings. Blake actively making the team worse. And Kopitar and Doughty not getting any younger. The window is closing for them.
Hard to feel sorry for McLennan. He’s pocketed $25m over the last five years.
Why would I feed bad for Flattop? He effed up a dream gig in Edmonton? He continually was outcoached in the playoffs. His roster management was deplorable.
If the Oil are thinking forward, I like Colton Sissons. RH pivot, experienced, good on the dot, gritty, a pest, and has some skill. His cap hit is $2.9 million, with 2 more years after this season. Plus he’s from Western Canada!
https://sportsforecaster.com/nhl/p/19515/Colton_Sissons
https://puckpedia.com/player/colton-sissons
That 2.9 doesn’t fit the salary structure moving forward given his production level. Especially as they already have 1-2-3 Cs in place and he doesn’t supplant any of them.
4C needs to be a league min guy or right around 1 max.
Rememeber… don’t run with Sissons!
I’m all about Nic Dowd after looking into his stats. He’s cheap at $1.3 millions and has another year. Plus he’s old and Holland loves old guys.
Dowd has produced at the same rate at ES as Monahan, and is a key PKer.
Normally I’m in favor of going early when it comes to trades.
This year, because of the ideal pickup (another scoring winger), you can afford to wait until very late. There are always quality wingers available right up until last call.
If someone offers you an upgrade on Ceci, Kulak, Ryan, Janmark, or someone like that that you can afford in the meantime, sure. Otherwise, patience and then a last minute strike.
At goalie I’m not currently convinced that someone will be available who sufficiently upgrades on Pickard/Rodrigue/Campbell as the backup plan. Only caveat would really be opposite to the usual ‘grizzled vet’ thinking…if someone wants to trade a young guy with big upside who is blocked, I think you make that deal and safely slot to #3/4. Goalie depth with upside is never a bad thing.
I agree. If anything, it should be a last minute deal.
Dubois has 7 more years at $8.5m ha ha ha good luck out there Blake
The guy has a very good player-agent, possibly takes a gun to every negotiation.
Ridiculous trade with Nashville…
To Nashville:
Bourgault, Xavier
Campbell, Jack
Erne, Adam
Gleason, Benjamin
Niemeläinen, Markus
Rodrigue, Olivier
2024 1st round pick (EDM)
2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
2024 6th round pick (NSH)
2025 1st round pick (EDM)
2025 4th round pick (EDM)
To Edmonton:
Carrier, Alexandre (RD)
Novak, Thomas (C/W)
Saros, Juuse ($2,500,000 retained) (G)
Trenin, Yakov (C/W)
2024 4th round pick (EDM)
2026 7th round pick (NSH)
$49,000 in Cap remaining with a 23 skater roster.
Oh, and PS I signed Toews for league minimum.
Playoff Roster
Nugent-Hopkins / McDavid / Hyman
Kane / Draisaitl / Foegele
Holloway / McLeod / Novak
Gagner / Toews / Perry
Trenin / Ryan / Brown
Janmark / Lavoie
Ekholm / Bouchard
Nurse / Ceci
Kulak / Carrier
Broberg / Desharnais
Skinner
Saros
Extreme banter.
Trotz is having convo’s with team’s with high skilled forwards for Saros. He’s not taking this phone call.
Carrier would be a good defensive depth option. He has really matured over the last couple of seasons and doesn’t need to be sheltered by Josi any longer.
While we’re at it . . . slice off a chunk of Whyte Avenue and send it for a piece of Music City Row.
That otter do it.
Is Taylor Swift coming too? Or at least a Taylor Swift concert? Or a Brooks like weeklong residency?
Maybe Kane (or whoever) has an injury or an “injury” that will keep him away from the team from the trade deadline to game one of the playoffs.
Well rested he hits the playoffs as a wrecking ball. (Remember a fresh Ferland single-handedly beating the Canucks for the (spits) Flames a few years back)
And boom, 5 million cap space opens up of Jake the Snake.
problem solved.
honestly, it’s pretty likely he’s playing through something anyway. Or someone is.
For some bizarre reason the cap counts pennies in the regular season but doesn’t apply during the playoffs…
why is that?
Imagine trading for Sean Monahan and thinking a first isn’t enough, you have to
add. Ridiculous. I wouldn’t have paid more than a second rounder
It’s pretty amazing… Montreal turned future considerations into a pair of 1sts and a conditional pick. LOL
Well, they took a risk on Monahan’s health returning and cashed in at the height of the market.
The WC arms race, started by the Oilers/ Perry, is officially on!
Getting to be an arms race. More used to seeing this out east w Rags n Philly n such each year. West is stacking high.