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Spent a bunch of time digging into mystery man Eduards Tralmaks, I lost everything I wrote when my phone died..

I’ll post more tomorrow.

However, this guy’s gamegrew exponentially after he moved to the Czech League 3 seasons ago. In his second year he led the League in scoring. He had never led any of his teams in scoring prior to that season and he had 20 more points than #2.

He had spent his 16 to 25 YO seasons in North America, so this guy won’t need any adjustment time. He is very strong, has a massive upper body and can smash the puck and has a deadly one-timer.21 of his 26 AHL goals were 5v5;.

Based on my video viewings, he had close to a dozen goals by deflection, and a large number were from distance be it a one-timer or a shot above the slot. He is a player who battles, Tralmaks is what we were hoping Tomasek would be (minus the Right hand shot).

He isn’t quick, but his top speed is decent. I wonder if he gets any opportunity to be in the Maroon spot. I don’t think they signed him to compete with the bottom 6 guys.

This is a sneaky good signing (low risk, low cost, low expectations). He isn’t Pat Maroon, but….I would be surprised if he turned some heads in camp.

He could be viewed as the Berezkin replacement.

I am intrigued

Also, he kinda looks like Bobby McMann

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Diablo

Big Mukh seems like the kind of Bowman move that often works out for him … young player, high pedigree, had a tough time establishing himself on a rebuilding team, about to passed on the depth chart by newer, shinier prospects, and no longer as valued by his first NHL team.

Hopefully he pops like Podz did.

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usuallyunusual

I love this player add. It’s ideal to have a player ready for when ekholm needs less minutes. Muk could be that guy in the medium term(a few years).

Shea looks to be that guy right now. Factor in Walmans health both may be playing solid 2nd pair minutes soon.

usuallyunusual

I wonder if bowman will weaponize the oilers cap space.

Tarkus

John Carlson spurns Carolina for Tampa, 2 x 8.5MM.

Diablo

Shout out to some ex-Oilers getting the bag over the past few days:
Skinner 3.75 x 2 years
Arvidsson 5 x 2 years
Kulak 4.5 x 5 years
Roslovic 4 x 2 years

And … unbelievably Washington ponied up 4.2 x 4 years to old pal Vinny Desharnais! Happy for guy, but glad that we’re not the ones overpaying him (by comparison, the Jets signed Mario Ferraro for 4 x 3 years)

Reja

The Broad Street Bullies are now running the Eastern Conference. You have to fight fire with fire. The Canucks could have had a few Cups but in one moment they allowed their leader Sedin to look silly. They were never the same after that incident and now they’re another 5 years away from being relevant.

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Lenny

Very happy especially for Kulak, who took a discount his last contract in Edmonton. Doubles his career earnings from the 20M to date. Im glad we didn’t sign it but so happy he got it.

And Vinny who didn’t play an NHL game until 27ish and quadruples his career earnings from the 5M to date. Hes already 30 so this was a massive contract for him. I remember when he was first called up and he was so humble and ecstatic to just be playing a game.

maudite

I have no idea what vegas did at end there.

11 contracts signed.
Lavoie only non UFA
Most 1 year deals
Most basically some age journeyman not quite vet.

Diablo

Another head scratcher … anyone know why Chicago gave Cole Smith 3 million x 3 years?

Diablo

Also … what has Tyson Foerster done to earn 7.1 million x 8 years? Can’t wait to see what Michkov is going to cost the Flyers to extend.

Diablo

Washington has just under 5.4 million of cap space left. Ovie must be calling it quits.

Diablo

And finally … Toronto … WTH?

Their self-proclaimed analytics GM just signed contracts worth a combined 20 million in AAV for the next 2 seasons, including 7 million x 3 years for 37 year old goalie Bob, and then traded the young goalie they’ve been grooming in the AHL, along with more picks out the door for a declining Nick Paul, while sending out Nick Robertson, a young forward that they’ve been grooming for years for a 4th round pick.

Not a single one of the players that they acquired today is a legit top 6 forward, top 4 D, or elite starting goalie.

Not only did they gamble big dollars on goalie Bob, but Chayka is also fresh off signing one year wonder Darren Raddysh to a lavish 8.5 million x 8 years.

It’s July first and they’re almost completely out of cap space.

That was pretty mid.

maudite

Ha. Yeah it’s like he just told treveling to “hold my beer”

maudite

Yeah that 7.1 caught me off guard

Fibonacci

PuckPedia
@PuckPedia
48m

The #VegasBorn signed Olofsson for $1,638,330. Why?

To optimize their LTIR with Pietrangelo on season ending LTIR, they’ll need to submit an opening roster $8.80M over the cap.

If Connelly & Holtz (who also have unique cap hit #’s) are on the roster, they are $7,797,850 over the cap. That means if they add another player for $1,002,150, they’ll completely optimize their use of Pietrangelo on LTIR 

maudite

It’s just a stack of guys

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v4ance

Connor Ingram got shut out in EDM and OTT. The Sens re-signed Ersson to fill the backup position and the Oilers got Andersen and Levi.

I think Ingram might be taking his talents to South Beach. Behind Jakob Markstrom, there is cobwebs and rookies.

Unless Cam Talbot grabs that last chair…

Bill Zito might be the General Manager but today’s transactions heightens my suspicions that Sunny Metha was the true brains behind the Cup winning teams in Florida.

Reja

Ingram agent might of pulled a Maroon.

Mesmer

The Panthers traded for Akira Schmid a few says ago, he’s probably their backup

DevilsLettuce

Howard, Statsney, Janmark, 2028 1st

Marchenko

Gaz Gazzerson

so of course i immediately googled this to see if it happened

DevilsLettuce

LOL my bad 🤣

Reja

Why not I need to believe. I remember we received a 24 year-old Rat in Kenny Linesman for Risto Siltanen after a career year.

Dee Dee

So the day started with the worry of Nurse being traded with salary retention and a bad contract coming back and ended with him being traded for what, 5 players?

Filling a bunch of holes in the roster without creating new ones?

I have this weird feeling, I can’t describe it.

There must be a German word for preparing to eat a shit sandwich but end up serving it to a division rival and getting a 4 course steak dinner back.

Tarkus

Well, there is a German term called Schadenfreude.

In your specific case, may I suggest Scheißefeede*?

*My German is, how you say, inelegant.

Gaz Gazzerson

I dunno, i hear it was pretty mid.

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

donkeyboy

Today was mega.

It was the day I wish we had on July 1 2015.

Will it be too late? Maybe.

But it is a new day in Edmonton.

My heart is full.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

The Trouba and Bobrovsky contracts are so bad. Free agency strikes again. Bowman had a good day.

godot10

I do not understand why are people celebrating Stan’s July 1st? It was pretty mid.

The good thing is Anaheim gutted their defense. Vegas is taking a gap year to reset their roster. LA is older than dirt. Vancouver and Calgary are rebuilding.

So all the Oilers have to worry about is San Jose, and the wild card crossover team from the central to get out of the division.

David

The Nurse trade was mid?

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Nurse with no retention is excellent.

finn_fann

Reading the athletic, Grier is getting panned for the Nurse trade, one of the biggest moves on the day. We replaced him with a solid 2/3 LD getting paid commensurate to his place on the roster, with a good chance to outperform his contract. Goaltending bets were reasonable, should provide league-average performance with some potential to be even better if Levi progresses, for less than 2M against the cap. ON really liked the Joseph add, citing his performance as 2nd line value based on his defensive work while being paid league minimum (albeit I know very little about him otherwise).

And we are set to start the season with a 23 man roster, basically for the first time since the pandemic, and with approx 5M in cap space.

donkeyboy

This tracks because you also think that Bouchard is bad.

greenshifter

That SJ defense shouldn’t scare anyone. They will give up a lot of goals.

Diablo

I get what you’re saying … the Oilers didn’t add a top 6 forward, top 4 D or elite starting goalie.

That said, they already had 5 of 6 top 6 forward positions filled for next season (McDavid, Draisaitl, Hyman, Savoie, Podkolzin) … I really think they need to give Howard up to the TDL next season to see if his college and AHL scoring prowess can translate to the NHL. For that to happen, he needs to play in the top 6.

The middle 6 guys are all savvy vets – RNH, Davidson, Kapanen
There is an interesting mix of players for the bottom 6 – Frederic, Joseph, Dach, Samanski … I wouldn’t mind if they brought Lazar back.

They were already 4 for 4 on top 4 D – Bouchard, Ekholm, Walman, Murphy; Shea is really good cover for Walman getting injured, and Shakir and Emberson are pretty good options for 6th and 7th defensemen.

In goal, they’ve already invested in Jarry … he was always going to get a chance to prove that he could re-establish himself as a legit #1.

I’ve wanted Levi for a long time … the Athletic had him ranked #7 last season on their drafted NHL prospect goalie list, and Daily Faceoff had him ranked 11th … he was ahead of Wallstedt and Dobes on both lists, and ahead of Cossa on Wheeler’s list … Cossa went for a first round pick … we got Levi for a 3rd round pick.

Then out of nowhere they got Freddy Andersen … if he makes all of his bonuses, he’s still only going to be paid a hair more than Jack Campbell is this season! He can take his time and get healthy, and be ready for another playoff run … and we won’t have to spend assets on upgrading our goaltending at the TDL this year.

Lastly – everyone, everywhere thought that the Oilers were (a) going to have to attach a first round pick, and/or (b) going to have to retain or take back a bad contract in order to offload Nurse, and (c) that his NMC would be an impediment to getting the best possible deal done. The Nurse trade defied all of those prognostications from the talking heads, and the keyboard warriors.

Instead, the Oilers will be going into next season with around 5 million in cap space!

I’m still not a fan of some of his previous work, but today Stan Bowman had a pretty good day.

maudite

I’m good with it. No glarimg holes to fill and cash in hand.

Even did the 3 goalies which i was praying they’d start as.

Ranford.85

Well put good sir

OriginalPouzar

because essentially every move was a positive.

I would suggest that if they had a better July 1 than all those teams listed then, well, that’s not mid.

oil2000

how are we to answer your first question? You tell us!

Walter Gretzkys Neighbour

Can you elaborate on what exactly you think would be more than “mid”? What else could have been done? But I suspect your answer will be specious as it seems there is no move that will be satisfactory. They got out of a large contract in Nurse, got a palatable return, created all important cap space to “weaponize”, signed some interesting players, took steps to address goaltending and they have made an admittedly controversial but potentially important coaching change. The angst seems disproportionate.

Fuhr and Lowething in Vegreville

Hypothetical question for you smart people.

If the Oilers decide to send Jarry to the AHL and he doesn’t want to ride the bus, could they mutually agree to void his contract?

dulock

Yes, they could but that’s pretty unlikely because it had to be mutual. If Jarry decides not to report, the team can suspend him but can’t terminate. Jarry has 10 Million reasons to not go that route though.

MushedPeas

I don’t see a world where a goaleur struggling to stay in the league (?) agrees to tear up ten million in guaranteed income.

Fuhr and Lowething in Vegreville

Why would somone downvot a question? 🤣 🤣 🤣

Anyways, I in no way think it’s plausible, but on the other hand, being a prideful athlete that’s already banked 20+ million in his career, when tasked with the idea of riding a bus in and out of Bakersfield and is used to first class flights, charters and 5 star hotels might be inclined to bet on himself, make comeback with an eye towards signing another potential multi-million contract instead of throwing away two years in the minors.

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OriginalPouzar

His way back to the NHL would be by playing well in the AHL, no?

Fuhr and Lowething in Vegreville

Indeed, I totally agree… was just spitballing a potential scenario that could happen in an alternate universe. Lol

Lenny

Shea was 14th in 5v5 points this year. Pretty good company in the top 20!

Zach Werenski
Evan Bouchard
Lane Hutson
Rasmus Dahlin
Cale Makar
Jakob Chychrun
Sam Malinski
Quinn Hughes
Noah Dobson
Brent Burns
Josh Morrissey
John Carlson
Mattias Ekholm
Ryan Shea
Erik Karlsson
Darren Raddysh
Rasmus Andersson
Mattias Samuelsson
Brock Faber
Charlie McAvoy
Bowen Byram

Oilers and Avs the only teams with 3 in the top 20.

Fuhr and Lowething in Vegreville

With an AAV of 4M. I’m pretty ecstatc about this bet.

Reja

Jarry-Anderson will both take turns with a pulled hamstring. Booooook it………..

Abbeef

That could lead to my best case scenario:

1) Levi gets an opportunity and steps up and becomes a legitimate number 1.
2) Whichever goalie isn’t injured plays well as a backup and the other is on LTIR freeing up space

Reja

Anderson is almost 37 has hard miles on him he has bubble gum holding his hamstring together. Jarry is also injury prone. Bowman always had veterans covering Crawford ass year after year from Turco-Emery-Raanta-Darling-Ward Bowman unlike Holland has always wanted above average goaltending. Bowman got caught with his pants down last year as he was sold a bill of goods by Skinner agent from loss of Weight-lateral movement blah blah blah Pickard was the players pick what does that tell you? Bowman didn’t want to rock the boat especially after not knowing if Connor was going to sign. This is now Bowman’s team no more iffy goaltending with a Coach who pulls the strings not the players coaching themselves. We will see shorter shifts with a pack of wolves mentality if someone runs Connor or Leon. Lastly for the love of Pete we finally have real goaltending.

maudite

I woukd have preffered broussoit at his hit especially.

Reja

We have a Goalie that has one the big enchilada Jarry may learn a trick or two from Anderson. I love that we finally have the net covered in all directions no more recalibration nonsense every 2 weeks.

smellyglove

Fibonacci watch:

The Athletic ranks SJ a free agent loser with the multi-year $18M additions of Trouba and Nurse (who saw one of Fibonacci’s favourite young SJ players return as part of the deal).

Similarly:

“In a matter of 20 minutes… The LA Kings have signed 4 players, who by the start of next season, will be 41, 39, 35, and 34.”

@EmptyNettersPod

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McSorley33

Absolutely thrilled to sit back and watch Holland work for another team during UFA season…

Lenny

Perry, Haula, Zuccarello, Gustafsson all on cheap short term contracts it looks like. Laughton on a good deal too. He had a pretty good day.

Fibonacci

The Kings are changing their team name to the Los Angeles Boomers.

rich tm

The regular season is a marathon. Come the dog days, those guys may be struggling – particularly on B2B nights.

Diablo

HH went quiet after the Nurse trade. While everyone overspent, the Oilers handed out 1 prudent contract after another … balanced the roster, and they still have cap space remaining.

I’ve been sceptical about Bowman’s work over the past year, but he knocked it out of the park today.

Scungilli Slushy

But Bowman sucks

Reja

I say the Nurse deal was decided on weeks ago. I mentioned see if Nurse’s house is for sale. It was probably a private deal. A blood thirsty real agent would have known. I knew a very attractive woman acquaintance that was a real estate agent in the river valley area 30 years ago. I know she would have been all ears on this deal.

Fibonacci

Pretty obvious what Grier’s strategy is.

He entered the offseason with a dearth of D.

He added Nurse, Trouba and Kesseriing all of whom have limited or no trade protection after 2 seasons.

They provide veteran cover while Sam Dickinson, Mattias Havelid, Keaton Verhoff, Ryan Lin and Eric Pohlkamp are ready to take over the reins.

And, for those keeping score at home, San Jose has $53.6 million in free cap space next offseason and still has $14 million (plus Logan Couture’s $8 million SELTIR) this year should another opportunity to present itself.

Reja

Sometimes both teams win in a trade. It’s all about fit just ask Arvidsson.

Fibonacci

Interesting that Pronman’s assessment of the trade is Oilers B- and the Sharks B+.

DevilsLettuce

Sure,

Celebrini 20M
Smith 15M
Graf 5M

With
Dickinson, Havelid, ect ect all needing new contracts.

However the contracts go that magical 53.6 is going to be gnawed down to 5.36 awfully quick.

Fibonacci

Meh.

That’s only $40 million out of $62 million.

Still plenty of walking around money.

Walter Gretzkys Neighbour

You are in fact ridiculous – I am sure you are aware. Here let me help you – “Meh”, now you don’t have to reply. Also please don’t.

MushedPeas

hundred percent. San jose will be fine and more than fine. All the boo birds cants see the longer play

Side

It’s not so much about SJS, it’s more about how Fibonacci has been:

A) frequently talking about how Nurse’s contract is one of the worst in the league that no smart GM would take unless there was retention

B) SJS has so much immense young talent who has already arrived, they don’t need a lot of vets to cover, especially expensive vets

C) SJS has so much cap space to weaponize they can quickly become a cup contender, especially with so much cheap young talent at their disposal

Fibonacci is pivoting because SJS went and paid for Nurse at full value while giving up one of his coveted, cheap, 2nd line D who can play LHD or RHD with a ceiling that could be a 1st line D in return + another blue chip prospect.

Then SJS and went and did exactly what HH said good teams don’t do, which is sign old guys to contracts that almost takes them into their 40s.

This is not a “SJS is doomed” free agency, this is a “Fibonacci was wrong again and is pretending like everything is going according to plan again” kinda situation.

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greenshifter

There is no longer a bad contract in the entire league with the cap rising. Is this correct? Grier made mistakes today. Sorry.

maudite

We have always been at war with eurasia.

Do the math right. You know the drill.

OriginalPouzar

Hamblin gets a 2-year (2-way) deal with Philly.

Good for him to get an NHL deal again (Oilers were offering an AHL deal) and term.

He will be missed on the Condors for sure.

Bill

Hamblin signed a 2 year deal with Anaheim.
Dineen signed with Philly.

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Reja

Nice catch everyone makes mistakes just ask Dickenson.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

I am in disbelief about the Nurse trade. No retention is huge.

i don’t know much about Ryan Shea. What’s the deal?

McSorley33

Same…..mammoth move to get Nurse moved.

Unsure on Shea….

finn_fann

Based on what I’ve been reading, sounds like a solid, if unspectacular, defender who isn’t great at stopping zone entries, but is mobile and can move the puck well. Late bloomer who peaked last year, had 35 pts, most of which came at 5×5, though was likely playing in some good luck. Had decent possession metrics and he was able to tread water in a 2LD role for the first half of the season (where Kulak was traded to the team and played above him). He was +30 on the season, for what it’s worth.

Sounds to me a lot like a Kulak or Kris Russell type, which is a good fit for where he’ll play and at a reasonable cap hit. Will be great value if the offensive production continues at that level, but imo he should cover the bet even if his numbers fall off a bit.

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Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Thank you!

OriginalPouzar

Also rates very well for zone exits and low turnovers. Played over 2 min per game on the PK with solid results. Led the entire roster in primary assists at 5 on 5 (including forwards). One of three d-men in the east with 35 points and +30.

Love this signing.

OriginalPouzar

Andersen has a NMC (and a 15-team no trade list).

He can’t be waived so its one of Levi or Jarry if they don’t carry 3 and I can’t imagine is the kid.

dulock

I suspect they’ll carry all 3.

Surgeons Knot

Now that Nurse is gone, who gets an A on their jersey next year? Ekholm? Hyman?

OilSafety

Hyman I would think

MushedPeas

i’m fine with either

Diablo

I want to say Bouchard, but he’s not very vocal on the ice with the refs. Ekholm is the obvious choice … need at least 1 D-man with an A.

Reja

Ekholm will play with a touch more swagger with the A on his sweater.

Scungilli Slushy

I like all Oiler players. I say a lot they need to be less concerned about feelings. Still hard. Some guys are going to lose an EO job, but such is pro sports. But winning demands it

Also I can’t believe FA signed a 1M deal

Reja

The Panthers-Knights-Lightning have been eating the leagues lunch. Bowman has entered the building!!

leadfarmer

Wow quite impressed with Stan today. Getting rid of nurse for something is absolutely amazing.

Jujhar

The atmosphere in here is exactly the same as the Jeff Jackson free agency. That seemed great as well at the time

CCM

Hear, hear!

LMHF#1

And that year could have gone right if Knoblauch didn’t sabotage deployment.

Reja

Yep that and Goaltending.

finn_fann

Arvidsson played well as soon as he left the oilers and Jinner played great for us any time KK took off his leash. I still think those were both reasonable signings, just questionable use of personnel by KK

Reja

Heavens to Betsy Oilers fans are happy.

Tarkus

The way Bowman had been cooking today, he should have his own show called:

Wok With Stan

Side

Incredible reference. Wok with Yan was great.

Scungilli Slushy

Remember the Edmonton version Yan Can? He was hilarious

daniel

Superior Wokmanship.

Tim N8R

ooh I see what you did there. Nice!!

Tim N8R

I doff my cap to you sir. Well played!

Gaz Gazzerson

Wok you talkin’ about, Tarkus?

Tim N8R

Stan talked the talk, now he needs to… wok the wok?

MushedPeas

👌🏻

SVR

Puckpedia now showing the Oilers with about 6.4 mill in cap space. Assuming they still plan on signing Dach, Stastney, and Muck, doesn’t leave enough space for a top six forward I don’t think. Huge opportunity for Howard if this is the case

Todd Macallan

Sure but not everyone makes the team. Janmark gone or in Bako along with Jones for example opens up a couple million. So realistically could still go into the season with a full roster and around 5M in cap space.

SVR

True enough. Could maybe squeeze in that top six guy then.

OriginalPouzar

They probably could be I don’t foresee it – Bowman wants some flexibility in season and he has it right now along with depth at every position.

Numenius

That’s 6.4M at the max 23 roster players, so the only cap change that will happen signing those guys is if they sign for above the players they replace (usually 1M or so).

It looks like Mukhammadullin might get 2M or more, but the others won’t get much more. That likely amounts to 1-1.5 onto the cap when all is said and done.

So we’re left with 5M cap space, which is more than enough to sign a top 6 forward in the mold of Giroux.

rich tm

I’m trying to remember the last time the Oilers were able to carry a 23 man roster at the start of the season.

OriginalPouzar

That’s with 14F/6D/3G

One of Stastney/Muk won’t be on the roster if everyone is healthy, likely Stastney, so just add Muk’s cap hit.

Dach will be on, near $1MM, but two forwards will need to be removed from the roster – Josef and Jones/Janmark perhaps – as they will carry the 3 goalies.

They have tons of walking around money.

DevilsLettuce

Just need Bowman to announce he’s signed the Dach brothers.

Bill

Kirby Dach was issued a QO worth $4 million by Montreal a few days back.

DevilsLettuce

Well ok then

finn_fann

I like the Anderson signing. 0.905 goaltending last year would have made for a completely different season. Injury cover for Jarry and takes the pressure off Levi for this year. This feels like sound risk management, even if it does potentially eat up a roster spot

OriginalPouzar

He was much better than that too per advanced metrics – Carolina is a tough environment for goalie numbers, per Woodly as, while they don’t give up many shots, when they do, its often high dangers – the highest percentage of high dangers in the league. Leads to a low expected save percentage which he outperformed.

daniel

PuckPedia
@PuckPedia
After trading Nurse & signing Shea, Kapanen, Jones, Joseph & Andersen, the #LetsGoOilers have $6.4M Projected Cap Space with 23 active players (14F/6D/3G)

RFA: Dach, Stastney, Mukhamadullin

With the max active roster of 23, they could create more space by sending down some of the players on the projected roster

OriginalPouzar

One of Stastney/Muk won’t be on the roster if everyone is healthy, likely Stastney, so just add Muk’s cap hit.

Dach will be on, near $1MM, but two forwards will need to be removed from the roster – Josef and Jones/Janmark perhaps – as they will carry the 3 goalies.

They have tons of walking around money.

OriginalPouzar

Multiple players that were coached by Babcock years ago willingly signing to play for him again. Hiring Babcock creating an issue for signing players clearly and objectively not a thing.

finn_fann

At this point, it almost seems like they’re going out of their way to get guys who’ve played for Babcock.

Diablo

There are a few players who are still quite vocal about their negative encounters; most of these guys were marginal NHLers, who have amplified their social media presence by repeating the same tired gripes about Babcock.

Honestly, I’ve seen worse said about some of my colleagues on RateMD.

You can’t please everybody.

Reja

Some people are sensitive every Coach fuks over marginal players it’s the nature of the job.

Tim N8R

Andersen/Jarry in the bigs. Ungar/Levi in the AHL? This just keeps getting better. What planet are we on?

rich tm

Jarry/Ungar. You don’t want to risk Levi having to clear waivers. You don’t mind risking Jarry. JMO.

Assuming that Tompkins get’s traded.

daniel

Stauffer saying they will run 3 goalies.

OriginalPouzar

Levi will not be in the AHL as he would need to clear waivers and they won’t expose him.

Jarry could be waived but from accounts it sounds like they will carry 3 in the NHL.

OriginalPouzar

Yes, $1.8MM of potential performance bonuses for Andersen – had to be.

Don’t know what they are, likely games played but those vesting is a next year issue (if at all).

daniel

Listed below, GP & Playoff Rounds won

Tim N8R

Likely to get the games played for a bonus of 1m and not as likely to get the Playoff rounds one for the other 800k. But, is a next year problem at worst.

Numenius

Puckpedia:
Andersen 1M + 1.8M performance bonuses

NMC; 15 team no trade list — $600K for 10 GP … $400K for 20 GP … $200K each playoff round won where he plays 50% or more of games

So likely he’ll take at least 2M of cap, which is not bad at all.

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daniel

I believe the Cap hit for this season is $1M

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Numenius

He’ll likely hit his games played bonuses, so that’s what gets you to 2M. Winning playoff rounds is more of a wildcard.

daniel

Don’t the bonuses count towards 27-28?

OriginalPouzar

Those vested bonuses don’t hit the cap for this year –  if any vest, they are added to the final cap calculation at the end of the season and, if it puts them over the cap for the year, there is a penalty next year. For this year, the cap hit will be $1MM.

OriginalPouzar

If that’s the structure, he’ll only take $1MM of cap.

The performance bonuses don’t hit this year’s cap – if any vest, they are added to the final cap calculation at the end of the season and, if it puts them over the cap for the year, there is a penalty next year. For this year, the cap hit will be $1MM.

Surgeons Knot

I am surprisingly comfortable with our goaltending now

v4ance

Sunny Mehta is a bad bad man.

There was a deal at the draft to trade Barrett Hayton to NJ and UTA pulled out at the last minute. The 1 year $4.775M offer sheet walks Hayton to UFA status next year so even if the Mammoth match, they’re looking at losing him for nothing at the end of the season.

Even if they match, Hayton and his agent have all the cards to ask for the moon on an extension. If they want to explore a trade, every other team will offer anchors or 3rd round picks knowing Utah is backed into a corner. The compensation will only be a 2nd rounder if they decline to match for the former 5th overall pick in 2018.

daniel

if they match they can’t trade Hayton for a calendar year.

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Utah has one week to match

There is a bit of a poison pill here, too. If Mammoth do match…they cannot trade him for one calendar year. But, Hayton can become a UFA next July.

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v4ance

Oooh great point! Then Hayton walks to UFA or gets PAID by Utah to stay.

Scungilli Slushy

Anderson Jarry with Levi in the minors it seems

Numenius

There’s no way they waive Levi and risk losing him when Jarry clears without question. And if someone claims Jarry, it’s even better.

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Todd Macallan

Levi has to pass thru waivers so zero chance he is in the minors. Bowman said he’s getting a chance as well. Running 3 goalies seems likely to start, awaiting an inevitable injury, and reasonable given their cap space currently.

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Scungilli Slushy

Good points. Could be more to come

daniel

Bob Stauffer
@Bob_Stauffer
Frederik Anderson has history with @EdmontonOilers
Head Coach Mike Babcock.
Very good goalie.
Fully expect the team to carry 3 goalies: Jarry/Anderson/Levi.
Great growth opportunity for Levi.
Bonus laden contract for Anderson.

Scungilli Slushy

Talk about going for it. There is no comparison to the Holland era. Bonkers

finn_fann

Other than the Frederic contract, I feel like we’re finally seeing lots of cap-efficient bets on guys like Dach, Jones, Kapanen and now Joseph to round out our bottom 6. I like the fact we picked up one bonafide league-average goalie and one journeyman with a decent floor and high potential ceiling, and their combined cap hit is less than 2M! These are the kinds of moves that analytics are supposed to help with.

OriginalPouzar

Based on nothing but thinking about it, if everyone if fully healthy, I think they waive Jarry and send him down (won’t be claimed) as they won’t waive Levi and Andersen probably gets claimed at $1MM – they won’t carry three or expose Levi, right?

greenshifter

My guess is they carry 3 to start or Freddie starts on IR? I believe he hurt his knee in the finals.

OriginalPouzar

1 year, $1MM AAV for Freddie Anderson – well can’t complain about a zero risk deal.

I wonder about performance bonuses that will be reported at some point? He’s 36 and eligible.

OriginalPouzar

Wonder if Anderson is super cheap with performance bonuses which he is eligible for?

Ranford.85

I hope so!

Gaz Gazzerson

Det er han! (He is!)

OriginalPouzar

So much for a “quiet day” – so many transactions, I’m having trouble processing.

The only one I have trepidation about right now is Anderson as I don’t understand it and don’t know the contract details.

I mean, they aren’t going to waive Levi and Bowman did say Jarry will be here. Is it a competition between Anderson and Jarry to tandem with Levi – there are only 2 exhibition games available to vets.

Anderson had bad trad numbers last year but he was well above expected – lets not forget, Carolina did not give up many shots but gave up the highest percentage of high danger in the league – Woodly calls it the toughest goalie environment in the league when looking a expected save percentage. He’s legit good when healthy.

Love the Shea deal, like Shakir and love the way Bowman got out of the Nurse deal, love the Kap signing given market prices, great with Jones – don’t understand Anderson.

David

Doesn’t seem like Babcock scared away players.

Scungilli Slushy

Seems like the Oilers inability to defend was a bigger concern

godot10

Andersen was Babcock’s #1 in Toronto, but he would overplay him, and Andersen would get hurt. On repeat.

Walter Gretzkys Neighbour

Oh boy.

OriginalPouzar

Great to have Jones signed at $850K.

There is going to be a TON of competition for roster spots and, with only 4 exhibition games, and two permitted for vets. its going to be tough to sort through all these players.

Gaz Gazzerson

Maximum Jones at a minimum wage!

Skippy - the bush kangaroo

Happy to have the depth, but can someone explain how Max Jones signs a league min deal, while a dude named Jeffrey Viel gets 5 x 2.5 (insert tax free state comment/Brisebois praise)?

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Gaz Gazzerson

[CAP!] SPACE! MADNESS!

€√¥£€^$

Because small samples sizes?

https://puckiq.com/players/8479705

OriginalPouzar

Jones did spend half the year in the minors and still is not established as an every day NHL player – even though he started to show consistency for the Oil last season.

He may not make this team – they have a ton of comp in the bottom 6 right now and may need to carry 3G.

OriginalPouzar

I don’t imagine they are going to risk Levi on waivers so one of Jarry/Anderson would not make the team, right?

godot10

Jarry and Anderson are injury prone. Run three goaltenders like Buffalo did last year.

Lewis Grant

Every team should do this.

rich tm

Hearing Freddie Anderson to the Oilers. Can’t confirm though.

Gaz Gazzerson
David

What would the plan be? If Levi can’t beat out Jarry or Anderson then it’s ok to lose him on waivers?

Or take the two best goalies out of camp and move the other? (Preseason is shorter now.)

Run three goalies for a month or two?

Numenius

Jarry will be the one to put on waivers and if someone takes him you thank your lucky stars.

rich tm

Exactly. If Jarry is waived and someone picks him up, there’s a lot of cap relief.

Still, you now have 2 goalies who are suspeptible to injury. But I don’t think you have to worry about either being claimed when one goes on waivers.

Gaz Gazzerson

From TSN and X:

Oilers add G Andersen, re-sign F JonesThe Edmonton Oilers have signed goaltender Frederik Andersen to a one-year deal, according to TSN’s Chris Johnston. The moves comes after the team traded for netminder Devon Levi earlier in the day.

The team also re-signed forward Max Jones to a one-year contract with an AAV of $850,000.

@reporterchris

Can confirm @KevinWeekes report: Frederik Andersen is heading to Edmonton on a one-year deal.

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Ryan

He is already listed on Daily Faceoff.

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/edmonton-oilers/line-combinations

Can’t find the cap.

OriginalPouzar

Levi sounds like a very mature young man. Very greatful for the time in the AHL says it was huge to make him who he is today. Battled through some adversity and it’s was the most amazing thing for him.

OriginalPouzar

Playing through the chaos of the AHL helped him learn to stay calm.

dangilitis

Compared to last years playoff team

A little bit worse at F (losing Roslovic, but was pretty invisible playoffs)

Deeper at D, and based on performance last year possibly better on the left side

G the great unknown. At present likely worse, but likelihood Jarry can play at level or greater that Ingram gave us last season is probably a coin flip.

~8.5 cap space. I do worry about consuming it on fringe players like Dach and Stastney instead of going for one bigger fish

OriginalPouzar

I love the roster given where they were 2 months ago.

Its getting balanced by the hour and deeper.

OriginalPouzar

Bowman suggests they will go in to the season with cap space (may spend some more in addition to RFA’s in the next few days but would like to go in to the year with some space).

Note, that was on air before the Kap signing.

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DBO

Kapanen 1 year 2.6 mill. On tsn Recap of oilers moves. Not a bad deal compared tl some today.

dangilitis

Absolutely. Could have easily been a 4

OriginalPouzar

Shakir will be used on the PK says Bowman – they are excited about his pk.

OriginalPouzar

Mentioned that Shea’s PK was elite last year.

dangilitis

I didn’t see any basic metrics to support that it was elite. His HDSCA/60 was relatively poor on the team, but way better than Nurse. Assuming they got the fancies covered. Also believe there is some coaching involved in these stats

Sierra

Something has to give then. They didn’t sign Shea not to play. Is Walman not a lock? Or is Bowman intimating that Shakir will displace Emberson.

Gaz Gazzerson

As for Matthew Joseph (from ON):

This contract has the fingerprints of the Oilers’ analytics department, as Joseph has been a strong driver of play. This past season, despite driving offence at a six per cent rate below league average, he drove defence at a 12 per cent rate above league average, and penalty kill play at a six per cent rate above league average, according to HockeyViz. Throughout his career, Joseph has driven play at the rate of between a low-end second-line player, and an average first line player, with his most recent season between second- and third-line contributions.

Bill

A million dollar Maroon type result would be something else.

Funnybird

I like the Joseph signing. He has a motor and can forecheck like a demon. He could be a valuable agitator on the 4th line. I recall an incident with him mixing it up with the Oilers in his rookie season in TBay … don’t remember exactly with who or what it was though… just remember it pissed me off and has stuck with me for 8 years, haha

Wonmoretime

It was Lucic who went over and pummeled him.

Side

With Nurse and Skinner gone, who will fans want to run out of town next?

Jarry?

Bouchard?

DevilsLettuce

Walman

Sierra

Do you mean “whose play will get them run out of town?

Bill

Don’t know if anyone mentioned it earlier, but Sam Poulin signed with Montreal and Cam Dineen signed with Philadelphia. There’s some depth not returning to Bakersfield.

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OriginalPouzar

Expected both to move on, old for them.

One, or both, of Stastney or Regula could be in Bako, if they clear.

They’ll get the big Latvian, Owen Michaels and, with Kap and Jones back, well, they have a ton of forwards, likely Josef down – who knows with Janny.

They might get some depth in goal with Jarry given this Andersen signing.

Bill

Guaranteed.
Should be interesting to see how they flesh out the roster for the the Condors, the number of players on the Oilers, a few will be California bound pending waivers.
Nice to have this type of depth.

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