He is a winger with good size, and is a January 2002. Edmonton chose all forwards in this draft, which makes sense based on the organizational pipeline but this is fairly unusual in my experience following drafts.
He plays for MoDO in Junior hockey and has 4-4-8 in four games so far in 2020-21. He has been strictly lower leagues so far, but at 18 there’s plenty of time to move up the chain in Sweden. This is absolutely a ‘draft and follow’ type selection.
LD
Thomas Chabot
Mike Reilly
Christian Wolanin
Olle Alsing
RD
Nikita Zaitsev
Josh Brown
Jacob- Bernard-Docker
Lassi Thomson
Erik Brannstrom
With Chabot playing more than 26 minutes a night, their left D should be good enough until Jake Sanderson, who many think is one of the most NHL ready players in the draft, is ready to go.
With such a young lineup, I expect their aspirations for next season are limited but man that’s quite a prospect pool on D.
Six first round picks.
Thank you for expressing exactly why they could use Russell, a legit NHL d-man and veteran presence at only $1.5 of real dollars but $4M on the cap – so all those prospects aren’t required to be in the NHL before they are ready and so Chabot isn’t forced to play half the game.
Jaxon
October 8, 2020 7:38 am
Speaking of age… wow, if Byfield was 27 days younger he’d be in next year’s draft. Crazy talent, crazy build. Do we have an Eric Lindros type talent emerging?
Conversely, if Alexis Lafreniere was 26 days older he would have been in last year’s draft.
They were considered 1 and 2 in this draft without even considering age, but with both of them just being 4 weeks in opposite directions, Lafreniere would have been drafted in 2019 competing with last year’s stats against Jack Hughes and Kaapo Kakko. He’d probably still go #1 against them. Byfield would be discussed as next year’s top pick with this year’s stats as his draft-1. It wouldn’t even be close as no 2021 is even close to achieving what Byfield has. Raty, Clarke, and Guenther might be considered as top prospects but if you compare this year as their draft-1, there is no comparison.
And Stutzle would have been the #1 pick this year.
Imagine that:
#1 Picks if Lafreniere was 4 weeks older and Byfield 4 weeks younger.
2019 Lafreniere
2020 Stutzle – 1st German to go #1
2021 Byfield – 1st Black player to go #1
Jaxon
October 8, 2020 7:19 am
How does a team pass on the youngest player to score 26 even-strength goals? 8th most even-strength goals of any draft year in the world. And, he did it in the most difficult junior league in the world. AND, he had shite for teammates. He lasted to 169th! I hate that it is the Flames but I’m kind of rooting for Rory Kerins to show everyone he should have been taken higher. I know skating is an issue but he can improve there, look at Mark Stone, skating was an issue with him too. Look at the company he is in:
LEAGUE NAME – EV G – “AGE
SEPT 15”
AJHL Carter Savoie 35 18.64
OHL Jack Quinn – 34 – 18.99
WHL Seth Jarvis – 32 – 18.62
OHL Marco Rossi – 31 – 18.98
QMJHL Alexis Lafreniere – 30 – 18.93
OHL Cole Perfetti – 29 – 18.71
Finland U20 Veeti Miettinen – 26 – 18.99 OHL Rory Kerins – 26 – 18.39
QMJHL Mavrik Bourque – 25 – 18.69
QMJHL William Dufour – 25 – 18.63
USHL Sam Colangelo – 24 – 18.72
OHL Quinton Byfield – 24 – 18.07
Genjutsu
October 8, 2020 6:30 am
Harpers Hair: They’re currently $27 million below the cap floor and I count 6 players who will likely make the roster all on ELCs averaging about $750K each.
Assuming they all make it, that’s only $4.5 million so they would need to spend another $22.5 million just to hit the cap floor.
Even paying their new goaltender $5.5 million they would need to spend another $17 million to hit the floor.
With the depressed free agent market, they should be able to find some real bargains.
I would imagine with the haul they just got in the draft, most of those deals would be short term.
You might want to recheck your math.
They’ve at 40 right now add 6 for the goalie and you’ve got 14 million to sign 12 more players.
Unless you think they’re going way above the cap floor.
I don’t see that happening.
€√¥£€^$
October 8, 2020 6:10 am
Jaxon:
What happened to Gogolev at #200?!?! When I logged off yesterday, NHL.com said that the Oilers picked Gogolev there. Now it says Lindewall?!? Strange. Did they actually pick him and then it was disallowed or something? Was he not eligible or something?
It is mind-boggling how the overage and barely-on the radar overager Chinakov was seen by one GM as a first round talent, while Gologev was completely passed over.
I have no doubt he signs somewhere in the NHL, but what an absolute head-scratcher….
Jaxon
October 8, 2020 4:38 am
Off my list
14. C Connor Zary (I was good with Holloway, though)
77. G Nico Daws
138. RD Kasper Puutio
169. RC Rory Kerins
200. LW Pavel Gogolev
or if using my list and the trade
14. C Connor Zary (I was good with Holloway, though)
100. RD William Villeneuve
126. RW Tyler Tullio (I didn’t have Martin Chromiak on my list because I didn’t even consider he’d still be there at 77, let alone 126)
138. RD Kasper Puutio
169. RC Rory Kerins
200. LW Pavel Gogolev
Based heavily on ‘Age-adjusted Primary-Pts NHLe’ with needs taken into account and giving preference to Cs over wings.
Jaxon
October 8, 2020 4:22 am
What happened to Gogolev at #200?!?! When I logged off yesterday, NHL.com said that the Oilers picked Gogolev there. Now it says Lindewall?!? Strange. Did they actually pick him and then it was disallowed or something? Was he not eligible or something?
jp
October 7, 2020 11:24 pm
€√¥£€^$:
So who thinks Lindewall is already a better prospect than Siikanen?
Busy 48 hours in the NHL – Mikko Koivu says he still wants to play
Go get him Kenny, young Jesse needs a mentor
Please and thank you.
Harpers Hair
October 7, 2020 10:53 pm
godot10:
Ottawa should really offer sheet Cirellli at 5 x $6 million.They already have three 2nds next year so they won’t miss the 3rd rounder.And they can replenish the first rounder by taking a salary dump from somebody.
I wonder if they’ll use their remaining cap space to take on a series of cap dumps and build up another series of first round picks for the next draft.
Ottawa should really offer sheet Cirellli at 5 x $6 million. They already have three 2nds next year so they won’t miss the 3rd rounder. And they can replenish the first rounder by taking a salary dump from somebody.
Harpers Hair
October 7, 2020 10:32 pm
OriginalPouzar:
Sounds like they could use Kris Russell for a bargain of $1.5M – that is real value as far as dollars for on-ice play.
Don’t think they need him.
LD
Thomas Chabot
Mike Reilly
Christian Wolanin
Olle Alsing
RD
Nikita Zaitsev
Josh Brown
Jacob- Bernard-Docker
Lassi Thomson
Erik Brannstrom
With Chabot playing more than 26 minutes a night, their left D should be good enough until Jake Sanderson, who many think is one of the most NHL ready players in the draft, is ready to go.
With such a young lineup, I expect their aspirations for next season are limited but man that’s quite a prospect pool on D.
godot10:
Tyson Barrie and Mikhail Granlund on bargain deals.
Try to upgrade on Kris Russell (somebody in, Russell out)
Sign one of the 3C’s out there.
And a goaltender.
I agree with all of these moves – that’s how I see it as well
If they can cover Kelfboms absence by upgrading the RH side (replacing Benning), the left side is passable for 1 year. You may have to squint a little, but it’s OK, especially if they can move Russell and replace him with a “Hal Gill” type for 1 year and half the money
RonnieB
October 7, 2020 10:17 pm
godot10: I guess I have to study up on Woodguy’s blog on the 3C’s.
Woodguy’s research is well worth investing your time to read. Koivu stands out as an excellent choice, perhaps even more so now that JP could be playing 3RW.
€√¥£€^$
October 7, 2020 10:11 pm
So who thinks Lindewall is already a better prospect than Siikanen?
OriginalPouzar
October 7, 2020 10:01 pm
Sounds like they could use Kris Russell for a bargain of $1.5M – that is real value as far as dollars for on-ice play.
Harpers Hair
October 7, 2020 9:55 pm
Genjutsu: Until they move into a new building in Ottawa, instead of playing in the middle of a cow field three towns over the cap ceiling is irrelevant.
The cap floor is not so far away and they have 13 players including a goalie who wants 6+
So how much do they have again?
They’re currently $27 million below the cap floor and I count 6 players who will likely make the roster all on ELCs averaging about $750K each.
Assuming they all make it, that’s only $4.5 million so they would need to spend another $22.5 million just to hit the cap floor.
Even paying their new goaltender $5.5 million they would need to spend another $17 million to hit the floor.
With the depressed free agent market, they should be able to find some real bargains.
I would imagine with the haul they just got in the draft, most of those deals would be short term.
They have a ridiculous $42 million in cap space and, while they have several NHL ready players on ELCs, they’ll have to spend money in the UFA market just to hit the cap floor.
Until they move into a new building in Ottawa, instead of playing in the middle of a cow field three towns over the cap ceiling is irrelevant.
The cap floor is not so far away and they have 13 players including a goalie who wants 6+
So how much do they have again?
slopitch
October 7, 2020 9:28 pm
I have Holloway #3 on harvest moon tomorrow. After that it gets harder.
Oilers should wait on day 1-3. Then make 3-4 show me 1 year offers. Lots of holes but its a buyers. So treat it as such. Generally a good day. The trade down seemed meh but the got skill on every pick. Cant expect much from 4th round and beyond but you never know!
He couldn’t stop a puck for the last two years in Vegas. May have cost them two Cups by overworking Fleury.
Harpers Hair
October 7, 2020 9:11 pm
Ryan: So they’re doing to disrupt the market of recent RFA’s that weren’t qualified?
It would be fun to see. Sort of like a poor man’s expansion draft for the Sens.
Sure looks like it.
They have a ridiculous $42 million in cap space and, while they have several NHL ready players on ELCs, they’ll have to spend money in the UFA market just to hit the cap floor.
Worth noting…Ottawa has only 3 forwards on its NHL roster.
That’s probably all melnyk can afford
Harpers Hair
October 7, 2020 7:03 pm
maudite:
Just looking at cap friendly with all unqualified rfa’s in ufa listing…there is going to be some smart groups that can find sone bargain value this year.
Put in Francis and Kerins Instead, it would have been one of the best xPT drafts ever.
You like Holloway today?
maudite
October 7, 2020 6:36 pm
Just looking at cap friendly with all unqualified rfa’s in ufa listing…there is going to be some smart groups that can find sone bargain value this year.
Thank you for expressing exactly why they could use Russell, a legit NHL d-man and veteran presence at only $1.5 of real dollars but $4M on the cap – so all those prospects aren’t required to be in the NHL before they are ready and so Chabot isn’t forced to play half the game.
Speaking of age… wow, if Byfield was 27 days younger he’d be in next year’s draft. Crazy talent, crazy build. Do we have an Eric Lindros type talent emerging?
Conversely, if Alexis Lafreniere was 26 days older he would have been in last year’s draft.
They were considered 1 and 2 in this draft without even considering age, but with both of them just being 4 weeks in opposite directions, Lafreniere would have been drafted in 2019 competing with last year’s stats against Jack Hughes and Kaapo Kakko. He’d probably still go #1 against them. Byfield would be discussed as next year’s top pick with this year’s stats as his draft-1. It wouldn’t even be close as no 2021 is even close to achieving what Byfield has. Raty, Clarke, and Guenther might be considered as top prospects but if you compare this year as their draft-1, there is no comparison.
And Stutzle would have been the #1 pick this year.
Imagine that:
#1 Picks if Lafreniere was 4 weeks older and Byfield 4 weeks younger.
2019 Lafreniere
2020 Stutzle – 1st German to go #1
2021 Byfield – 1st Black player to go #1
How does a team pass on the youngest player to score 26 even-strength goals? 8th most even-strength goals of any draft year in the world. And, he did it in the most difficult junior league in the world. AND, he had shite for teammates. He lasted to 169th! I hate that it is the Flames but I’m kind of rooting for Rory Kerins to show everyone he should have been taken higher. I know skating is an issue but he can improve there, look at Mark Stone, skating was an issue with him too. Look at the company he is in:
LEAGUE NAME – EV G – “AGE
SEPT 15”
AJHL Carter Savoie 35 18.64
OHL Jack Quinn – 34 – 18.99
WHL Seth Jarvis – 32 – 18.62
OHL Marco Rossi – 31 – 18.98
QMJHL Alexis Lafreniere – 30 – 18.93
OHL Cole Perfetti – 29 – 18.71
Finland U20 Veeti Miettinen – 26 – 18.99
OHL Rory Kerins – 26 – 18.39
QMJHL Mavrik Bourque – 25 – 18.69
QMJHL William Dufour – 25 – 18.63
USHL Sam Colangelo – 24 – 18.72
OHL Quinton Byfield – 24 – 18.07
You might want to recheck your math.
They’ve at 40 right now add 6 for the goalie and you’ve got 14 million to sign 12 more players.
Unless you think they’re going way above the cap floor.
I don’t see that happening.
It is mind-boggling how the overage and barely-on the radar overager Chinakov was seen by one GM as a first round talent, while Gologev was completely passed over.
I have no doubt he signs somewhere in the NHL, but what an absolute head-scratcher….
Off my list
14. C Connor Zary (I was good with Holloway, though)
77. G Nico Daws
138. RD Kasper Puutio
169. RC Rory Kerins
200. LW Pavel Gogolev
or if using my list and the trade
14. C Connor Zary (I was good with Holloway, though)
100. RD William Villeneuve
126. RW Tyler Tullio (I didn’t have Martin Chromiak on my list because I didn’t even consider he’d still be there at 77, let alone 126)
138. RD Kasper Puutio
169. RC Rory Kerins
200. LW Pavel Gogolev
Based heavily on ‘Age-adjusted Primary-Pts NHLe’ with needs taken into account and giving preference to Cs over wings.
What happened to Gogolev at #200?!?! When I logged off yesterday, NHL.com said that the Oilers picked Gogolev there. Now it says Lindewall?!? Strange. Did they actually pick him and then it was disallowed or something? Was he not eligible or something?
I think that’s true.
Please and thank you.
I wonder if they’ll use their remaining cap space to take on a series of cap dumps and build up another series of first round picks for the next draft.
Could set them up for a very long time.
Ottawa should really offer sheet Cirellli at 5 x $6 million. They already have three 2nds next year so they won’t miss the 3rd rounder. And they can replenish the first rounder by taking a salary dump from somebody.
Don’t think they need him.
LD
Thomas Chabot
Mike Reilly
Christian Wolanin
Olle Alsing
RD
Nikita Zaitsev
Josh Brown
Jacob- Bernard-Docker
Lassi Thomson
Erik Brannstrom
With Chabot playing more than 26 minutes a night, their left D should be good enough until Jake Sanderson, who many think is one of the most NHL ready players in the draft, is ready to go.
With such a young lineup, I expect their aspirations for next season are limited but man that’s quite a prospect pool on D.
Six first round picks.
I agree with all of these moves – that’s how I see it as well
If they can cover Kelfboms absence by upgrading the RH side (replacing Benning), the left side is passable for 1 year. You may have to squint a little, but it’s OK, especially if they can move Russell and replace him with a “Hal Gill” type for 1 year and half the money
Woodguy’s research is well worth investing your time to read. Koivu stands out as an excellent choice, perhaps even more so now that JP could be playing 3RW.
So who thinks Lindewall is already a better prospect than Siikanen?
Sounds like they could use Kris Russell for a bargain of $1.5M – that is real value as far as dollars for on-ice play.
They’re currently $27 million below the cap floor and I count 6 players who will likely make the roster all on ELCs averaging about $750K each.
Assuming they all make it, that’s only $4.5 million so they would need to spend another $22.5 million just to hit the cap floor.
Even paying their new goaltender $5.5 million they would need to spend another $17 million to hit the floor.
With the depressed free agent market, they should be able to find some real bargains.
I would imagine with the haul they just got in the draft, most of those deals would be short term.
I guess I have to study up on Woodguy’s blog on the 3C’s.
Tyson Barrie and Mikhail Granlund on bargain deals.
Try to upgrade on Kris Russell (somebody in, Russell out)
Sign one of the 3C’s out there.
And a goaltender.
https://theathletic.com/2121979/2020/10/07/mikko-koivu-wild-fans-thank-you-free-agent-i-want-to-play/
Busy 48 hours in the NHL – Mikko Koivu says he still wants to play
Go get him Kenny, young Jesse needs a mentor
NEW for The Athletic: Jesse Puljujarvi signing overshadows a strong day for Oilers at draft
https://theathletic.com/2123193/2020/10/07/lowetide-jesse-puljujarvi-signing-overshadows-a-strong-day-for-oilers-at-draft/
Not in my opinion
Yes
Until they move into a new building in Ottawa, instead of playing in the middle of a cow field three towns over the cap ceiling is irrelevant.
The cap floor is not so far away and they have 13 players including a goalie who wants 6+
So how much do they have again?
I have Holloway #3 on harvest moon tomorrow. After that it gets harder.
Oilers should wait on day 1-3. Then make 3-4 show me 1 year offers. Lots of holes but its a buyers. So treat it as such. Generally a good day. The trade down seemed meh but the got skill on every pick. Cant expect much from 4th round and beyond but you never know!
He couldn’t stop a puck for the last two years in Vegas. May have cost them two Cups by overworking Fleury.
Sure looks like it.
They have a ridiculous $42 million in cap space and, while they have several NHL ready players on ELCs, they’ll have to spend money in the UFA market just to hit the cap floor.
So they’re doing to disrupt the market of recent RFA’s that weren’t qualified?
It would be fun to see. Sort of like a poor man’s expansion draft for the Sens.
The Oilers are too funny.
I wrote a post here comparing Carter Savoie’s AJHL stats to Holloway’s shortly after word broke that they were interested in Holloway.
Then they draft Savoie too.
I believe he liked him yesterday after seeing his AJHL numbers and not just the NCAA
Malcolm subban any value there?
Harpers Hair,
Winner losers is a stupid thing if they pick the way I mocked they’re winners if not losers. Click bait
Scott Wheeler picks winners and losers from the first round.
https://theathletic.com/2068998/2020/10/07/nhl-draft-winners-and-losers-ranking-every-teams-first-round/
That’s probably all melnyk can afford
Another list.
https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2020/10/list-of-players-not-receiving-a-2020-qualifying-offer.html
Worth noting…Ottawa has only 3 forwards on its NHL roster.
You like Holloway today?
Just looking at cap friendly with all unqualified rfa’s in ufa listing…there is going to be some smart groups that can find sone bargain value this year.
Duclair is not going to be qualified
rickithebear,
Thanks for the review Ricki
Shoukd point that scouting/ video has to agree the skill has to be NHL translatable to math.
Calgary
Zary pick #24 62 xPT
Francis pick 143 54xpt
Kerins pick 174 49 xPT
EDM
Holloway pick #14 65 xPT
Savoie pick 100 55 xPT
Tullio pick 126 56xPT
Berezkin top PPG draft yr MHL fwd, but gritsyuk isn’t 9 months younger.
Engaras 13 xPT
Put in Francis and Kerins Instead, it would have been one of the best xPT drafts ever.
The draft is now complete, and neither Constantinou nor Gogolev were chosen.
Since Gogolev has now gone through three drafts, would he be eligible to sign as a free agent?
Looking at the leagues each player plays in, the Oilers went all over the map. No tunnel vision on one league.
Corey Pronman and Scott Wheeler from The Athletic each posted their scouting reports of the top prospects for this draft.
Pronman’s list is here: https://theathletic.com/2085858/2020/09/29/2020-nhl-draft-board-corey-pronmans-final-top-131-prospects/
Holloway @ 17
Tullio @ 86
Savoie @ 92
Berezkin @ 106
Wheeler’s list: https://theathletic.com/2019544/2020/09/21/wheeler-updated-ranking-for-the-2020-nhl-drafts-top-100-prospects
Hollway @ 18
Savoie @ 32
Tullio @ 69
Berezkin HM (one of 50, list only went to 100)
Wheeler also has an article about best friends Savoie and Michael Benning from earlier this year: https://theathletic.com/1687367/2020/04/01/after-scaling-hockey-ladder-together-best-friends-hope-nhl-draft-is-no-different/
Oh, and Wheeler also has an item on Tullio in this article, about halfway down: https://theathletic.com/2068947/2020/10/05/wheeler-final-2020-nhl-draft-thoughts-notes-and-predictions/?article_source=search&search_query=tullio