Tumbling Dice

by Lowetide

The Ted Lindsay Award is a valuable item, partly because NHLPA members vote the winner. Nothing like your industry saying you’re the best. Wayne Gretzky won it five times when it was called the Lester Pearson Award, named after a substantial Canadian who did fine works with the UN, became Canada’s prime minister for a time, and handed out cabinet posts to men who would run our nation for decades after his passing. I don’t know much about Pearson, beyond my Dad telling me that he picked the right flag for Canada.

I know the award is important, and that an Oilers player has won it eight times. Five for 99, one for Mark Messier, and two in a row for the fastest man in history. He’s up for the Lindsay and the Hart tonight (McDavid won the MVP in 2017) and it should be a fun evening. The captain spoke about his injury and other things here.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of the group, here’s an incredible Offer!

  • New Lowetide: Are these Jesse Puljujarvi’s final days with the Edmonton Oilers?
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Analyzing the early Edmonton Oilers’ 2019-20 depth chart.
  • New Jonathan Willis: 2018-19 NHL Awards: Finalists, projected winners and snubs
  • New Lowetide: The Oilers’ conundrum in taking Philip Broberg with the No. 8 overall pick
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Ranking the Oilers’ trade assets from the high-priced diamonds to those needing fresh starts
  • LowetideKen Holland’s work week: Fixing the third and fourth lines while saving money and overhauling the penalty kill
  • Jonathan Willis: How are the Oilers affected by early offseason trades and buyouts to Dion Phaneuf, Andrew MacDonald?
  • Lowetide: Falling talent and other fun facts that could benefit the Oilers in the NHL Draft
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Evaluating the pros and cons of potential Oilers buyout candidates
  • Lowetide: Oilers GM Ken Holland is shopping for 20-goal scorers on a budget. What will he find?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Jay Woodcroft returning to coach AHL Condors and be reunited with Ken Holland
  • Lowetide: Looking at the Oilers’ options for the No. 8 pick at the 2019 NHL Draft.
  • Jonathan Willis: How many of Sam Gagner, Zack Kassian and Jujhar Khaira can play top-nine minutes for the Oilers?
  • Daniel Nugent-BowmanQ&A with Ken Holland: On the draft, buyouts, free agency and how to have a successful offseason
  • Lowetide: Trading for Loui Eriksson: What makes sense for the Oilers?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: The top five players the Oilers could lose in the expansion draft
  • Jonathan Willis: What a trade involving Edmonton’s No. 8 pick might look like given Ken Holland’s history
  • LowetideHard Target Search: Finding the Oilers a centre who can penalty kill, help shape a useful third line, and serve in a mentor role

SWEDISH POSTER TALKS PHILIP BROBERG

Due to an enormous number of angry tweets and several posts on this blog forecasting the end times, I’m going to print Swedish Poster’s words and music from earlier this spring. Notice the balanced view the author gives you, and especially the line about his being a safe pick. I’m not a scout, I have Broberg No. 16 on my final list, saying “he’s big and can skate like the wind, while also displaying puck moving ability. Offense may be shy, but Swedish blue can fool you.” As a comparable, I ranked Oscar Klefbom No. 24, saying ” Big, two-way defender. Raw skill set, ISS compares him to Ryan Whitney.” If Broberg is the pick, we’ll drill down and find out about him in July. I think offense is the only real question, and he needs to bring at least some boxcars to make the pick worthwhile. Here’s SP.

The biggest ticket this year is Philip Broberg, 6’3 LHD who can absolutely fly. Skating is the first thing that pops out when you see him, not just amazing top speed but his acceleration is great both from standstill but also how he goes from 4th to 5th gear, he walks the line well and has great mobility in all directions. Against his peers coast to coast adventures are as common as a Gene pun. More interesting is to see him against grown ups in the second swedish tier, Allsvenskan, as he can’t just skate past guys at will at that level.

There you notice that he actually has a pretty good grasp where he should be defensively, breaks up plays, good gaps and moves the puck north not only by skating it up but he actually has a good first pass. As with most swedish D, in particular guys like Broberg who enters the mens ranks at an early age he’s not very physical but he’s pretty good at getting the puck from players either by shielding them off the puck or pokechecks. His shot is ok but not great, wellplaced wrister but needs more oomph to beat NHL goalies, with how explosive his skating is I think the chance he improves in that area is fairly good.

He’s got good puckhandling, not a dangler but controls the puck well at top speed, can make moves around players at high speed with the puck. He’s from the Lidström school of D where you don’t overhandle the puck once it’s under control on your stick and instead wait until you have to move past guys and make dekes to start messing about with the puck. His passing is fine, he moves the puck well technichally both forehand and backhand, as I mentioned he’s got a solid first pass.

Now the big talking point on Broberg and the thing that has people questioning him as an NHLer and thinking he’s one of the most likely players to bust amongst the top picks is his hockey IQ. I personally don’t think it’s a big issue, not elite in any way but not bad either, he knows his way around the ice, reads and reacts well.

Where I do think it stems from is that he doesn’t see the ice all that well offensively. Quite often you see him having those Darnell Nurse moments where he skates the puck into to the offensive zone and then doesn’t know what to do with it so he just keeps skating deeper into the zone, against his peers his skating is so outstanding that he usually can just take it to the net and create a scoring chance, but against tougher competition he often either ends up in the corner or just throws a wrister on net. Defensively and in other areas of the game his awareness is quite good though so I don’t think it’s about a severe lack of hockey smarts.

To my eye it looks like a lack of natural offensive instincts more than anything and that’s what might keep him from being a proper #1 D. There is one small caveat with regards to him lacking offensive instincts though. He’s a guy who’s development kind of exploded the last season and a half, he was a good player in his age group before, made the national teams and so on but something drastic happened with his trajectory once he moved from Örebro to AIK to make him the top name of the group. So what does this have to do with offensive instincts? Familiarity. Going from being a good player to a guy who can suddenly blow up the ice at will to create opportunities is a different situation and one he might need to adapt to in order to find his offensive groove. But with that burst of development you suddenly find yourself playing against full grown pros for the first time in your life and with that comes a whole new set of things to adapt to and providing offense is usually not at the top of the list for a 17 year old in a pro league.

If there’s any truth to this theory there might be untapped potential offensively and then you have a guy with pretty much the whole toolkit to be a #1D. That’s an if though. However as we’ve seen with Darnell this past season you can still be productive with limited offensive vision and instincts if your skating and puckhandling is good enough to move the puck up ice effectively. With that in mind I’d argue the risk he’s a bust is actually miniscule and instead he’s one of the safest picks in the draft. With his insane skating and ability to play defense I just don’t see how he won’t make it as a solid NHL D and even without an offensive uptick I think his upside is a #2 D.

LOTS OF WORK TO DO

HOLLAND’S 2010-11 TEAM

This is a fairly typical Red Wings team in the cap era when Detroit was contending. Mike Babcock was the coach, there were two men age 40, six more 35+ and another five 30+. Hudler was just back from a year with Moscow Dynamo and had a helluva time working his way back into the lineup.

HOLLAND’S 2018-19 TEAM (SO FAR)

Holland’s modus operandi involves employing the aged, so the idea that Sekera or Russell are in the end days with the organization shouldn’t be assumed. Nuge? Miles to go. Holland’s final Red Wings team had TEN players 30+, compared to six on the team he inherits in Edmonton. Holland might add more to the current group.

HOLLAND’S HOME FOR THE AGED

G Mike Smith. This is a possibility. Smith’s regular season even strength SP (.907) was poor but his playoff SP in the same discipline was .938 in five games. He is 37.

G Curtis McElhinney. Although he’s 36 and has posted a journeyman’s career, sometimes goalies go on runs of several years later on. He was rock solid in goal in 2018-19.

G Petr Mrazek. He’s 27, young for the group, but Holland knows him and in 40 games a year ago, Mrazek posted a .914SP.

G Brian Elliott. My personal choice, he posted a .907SP a year ago and is durable and capable of carrying a team on significant winning streaks. He is 34.

FORWARD WISH LIST

1 RW Brett Connolly. Ryan Rishaug mentioned him on the Dustin Nielson Show this morning (TSN1260), that’s a good sign. He can win battles, has skill and can play up and down the lineup.

2 LW Nik Ehlers. He would be No. 1 but I worry about the package required. Would the Jets do a pick and a player? Nurse? Larsson? What about a ‘kids pack’?

3 RW James Neal. As much risk as might be involved, Neal has the kind of skill Edmonton needs. Holland won’t be worried about age, but Lucic has to be part of the package. I wonder about a three-way mind blowing deal between Edmonton, Calgary and Vancouver. Can Holland pull that off?

4 LW Tyler Ennis. He shouldn’t cost a lot, brings speed and skill. There’s no downside to this acquisition.

5 LC Nazem Kadri. Dare to dream.

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Woogie63

Why isn’t there a major trophy named after Wayne Gretzky? Move over Art make room for Wayne?

Bohologo

Based on some of this week’s blog entry titles, I think we can all agree that LT’s favourite record is Exile on Main Street. Reasonable?

OriginalPouzar

I think McDavid probably wins the Lindsay but a definite argument can be made for Kucherov – I know he had help with both his linemates, his defence, his team’s transition game, etc. but he scored ALOT of points. McDavid is the best player in the league but he lost the goal share alot this year – playing a ridiculous amount of minutes with a team tied to your back makes it pretty hard mind you.

Woogie63

I watched a lot of Mike Smith last year. His save % is only a part of the story; the way he handles the puck he makes average defensemen better and puts forwards on the attack in a hurry.

Calgary played with a rookie defence pairing and Smith helped those minutes a lot. If we end up with a Jones-Benning pairing Smith will make them better.

Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR

That 3-way trade would be blasphemous for those organizations!! I’d rather see Lucic go to Vancouver than Calgary though.

I have a feeling this is the year of offer sheets. Not so much to try to actually acquire the players, but more to screw over rivals. If someone sets the price on Marner at 11.5, Toronto will match and be screwed! I read somewhere about Chi offer sheeting Timo Meier just to get back at SJ over the Hjalmersson/Niemmi affair.

With there being so much parity in the league, this is gonna be a legitimate weapon for teams to use. Or I could be way off!

dustrock

I’ve come around on Broberg, it’s a real shame we couldn’t sneak into 6th or 7th because I agree with Pronman, Blue Bullet Brad and others that there’s a drop after 7.

Only players who give me pause are Kaliyev and Caufield. A large part of me thinks if your top 7 targets are gone, why wouldn’t you go with the 2 best scorers in the draft?

Reja

Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR:
That 3-way trade would be blasphemous for those organizations!!I’d rather see Lucic go to Vancouver than Calgary though.

I have a feeling this is the year of offer sheets.Not so much to try to actually acquire the players, but more to screw over rivals.If someone sets the price on Marner at 11.5, Toronto will match and be screwed!I read somewhere about Chi offer sheeting Timo Meier just to get back at SJ over the Hjalmersson/Niemmi affair.

With there being so much parity in the league, this is gonna be a legitimate weapon for teams to use.Or I could be way off!

I still think it’s Taboo but if one GM uses it as a weapon and a second GM follows suit look out the flood gates could open where the league is turned upside-down. I did enjoy the Burke-Lowe bickering and smack talk a few years back. I also would love to see Cocky boy in TO and smarty pants in Calgary get players offer sheeted.

OriginalPouzar

Mrazek and Curtis M. are both solid options – Curtis M would be cheaper – Mrazek likely requires term and close to $4M I would think.

I like those guys as well as James Reimer – at a lower cap hit (either by way of signing after a buyout or a retained cap trade).

OriginalPouzar

I think I read somewhere yesterday that Gagner produced over 2P/60 away from McDavid last year – I know that sample must be small but maybe something to think about.

OriginalPouzar

Benning plus Puljujarvi for Kadri?

Jaxon

How much could/would Ottawa retain for 3 second round draft picks in a 4 way trade. Edmonton, Calgary, and Vancouver all trade their dead weight (Lucic, Neal, and Ericsson) to Ottawa who retains 50% and sends Lucic to Van, Neal to Edm, and Erickson to Cgy for a decent prospect from a position of depth from each team. Ottawa adds $9M in cap and gets 3 second round picks and 3 prospects. That’s a fast rebuild for them. Is that too much to give up for Edmonton? What prospect would you give up? Lagesson level? Is there a rule that would prevent that?

Basically, you’re sending away a second round pick and a depth prospect for $3M in cap space and a similar player.

jp

Lowetide,

Thanks for re-posting the Swedish Poster’s Broberg scouting report. I know the team needs skill forwards, but based on SP Broberg is likely also a worthy pick. Another Nurse at number 8 isn’t actually a bad result.

Reja

OriginalPouzar:
Mrazek and Curtis M. are both solid options – Curtis M would be cheaper – Mrazek likely requires term and close to $4M I would think.

I like those guys as well as James Reimer – at a lower cap hit (either by way of signing after a buyout or a retained cap trade).

Reimer on the cheap after buy-out or cap dump in trade.

admiralmark

No matter how you cut it 90% of the scouts and scouting agencies say Broberg would be a big reach at #8. So safe pick it is not. Between this potential move and say a Zaitsev pickup all that Holland hope can go out the window in a hurry this weekend. I’ll see what happens but i’m not enjoying much of the verbal i’m hearing leading up to Draft weekend.. not one bit.

jp

Seems like this isn’t a popular view. But the Flyers, they actually look really good from where I sit.

Something like:
vanRiemsdyk-Giroux-Voracek
Hayes-Couturier-Konecny
Lindblom-Patrick-Hartman
Frost-Laughton-Bailey

Provorov-Niskanen
Gostisbehere-Braun
Hagg-Sanheim

Hart-(Talbot?)

Niskanen is the oldest player. He doesn’t turn 33 until December. Lots of room for growth from the young guys.

They’ve got a few year window where they could be a really top team. Or it could all go to shit, but I like that team personally.

Pouzar

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My buddy said they went here. It was only 5 min walk from hotel.
He is a foodie and he loved it (so did his new bride).

Cheers!

Jaxon

Is there a limit to how many money retained contracts you can have at any given time? Ottawa has zero at the moment.

Pouzar

admiralmark: Broberg would be a big reach at #8.

When the inevitable happens, I will be well inebriated.

texmex

Ryan Rishaug

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Couple of Oiler quick hitters as we touch down in Van –
-Broberg a very good possibility at 8
-If Puljujarvi deal can land a 3line F, they do it, if not they may stand pat
-Benning likely in play – create space for young D
-Connolly should be a prime UFA target for them.

Pescador

Pouzar: When the inevitable happens, I will be well inebriated.

This rings true for sooo much of just life in general

Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR

Reja: I still think it’s Taboo but if one GM uses it as a weapon and a second GM follows suit look outthe flood gates could openwhere the league is turned upside-down. I did enjoy the Burke-Lowe bickering and smack talk a few years back. I also would love to see Cocky boy in TO and smarty pants in Calgary get players offer sheeted.

I could see Long Island Lou doing this in a heartbeat. Don’t forget they fired him and then signed JT last summer. Isles fans would go nuts over this!

Pescador

OriginalPouzar:
I think I read somewhere yesterday that Gagner produced over 2P/60 away from McDavid last year – I know that sample must be small but maybe something to think about.

I think we all have time for Gagner in a 4th line winger/ 2nd PP unit/ guy who can cover temporary top 6 mins.
The best play for Gagner is to send him to Ott for a pick & find a guy who can do this job for $1M and utilize the additional cap space

Pouzar

texmex:
Ryan Rishaug

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Couple of Oiler quick hitters as we touch down in Van –
-Broberg a very good possibility at 8
-If Puljujarvi deal can land a 3line F, they do it, if not they may stand pat
-Benning likely in play – create space for young D
-Connolly should be a prime UFA target for them.

Besides the last point…sigh.

Coiler

I think Ryan Rishaug must be a regular troller of this and other websites to have come up with those doozy ‘insights’. Amazing journalism.

godot10

dustrock:
I’ve come around on Broberg, it’s a real shame we couldn’t sneak into 6th or 7th because I agree with Pronman, Blue Bullet Brad and others that there’s a drop after 7.

Only players who give me pause are Kaliyev and Caufield.A large part of me thinks if your top 7 targets are gone, why wouldn’t you go with the 2 best scorers in the draft?

McDavid and Draisaitl are the goal scorers you are looking for.

Cozens or Krebs.

v4ance

Woogie63:
I watched a lot of Mike Smith last year.His save % is only a part of the story; the way he handles the puck he makes average defensemen better and puts forwards on the attack in a hurry.

Calgary played with a rookie defence pairing and Smith helped those minutes a lot.If we end up with a Jones-Benning pairing Smith will make them better.

Living in Calgary amongst all the Flames fans, a lot of them would be happy, nay ecstatic, if the Oilers picked up Mike Smith. Do not take that as a positive endorsement.

His puckhandling is nice but his ability to do his main job… re: stopping pucks …varies wildly from week to week.

Jaxon

Mike Smith (37), Cam Ward (35), Ryan Miller (38), and Curtis McElhinney (36) come with the added risk of not being able to be bought out so their contacts would have to be 1 year or two maximum. Even if they retire the contract stays on the books. Elliott, at 34, is able to be bought out if needed, so a team is possibly able to give him more years at a reduced rate for his security.

Woogie63

Is Broberg a reasonable pick to contribute 4 years from now? Will the conveyor belt need a LHD?

Known left handed defenceman … 4 years from now

Klefbom – 29 years old – 556 NHL games
Nurse 28 years old – 559 NHL games
Sekera 37 years old – 947 NHL games
Russell 36 years old – 1071 NHL games
Jones – 26 years old – 275 NHL games
Samorukov – 24 years old – 150 NHL games
Legesson 27 years old – 150 NHL games

Broberg 22 years old – 15 NHL games

dustrock

godot10: McDavid and Draisaitl are the goal scorers you are looking for.

Cozens or Krebs.

My point was if Cozens was gone. Krebs I shy away from a guy with a ruptured Achilles.

Also goal scoring is the hardest thing in hockey.

v4ance

Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli

#NHLDucks are in the process of finalizing paperwork to buy out Corey Perry this morning. Perry is not expected to be placed on waivers, by virtue of his no-move clause. Big name for the #FreeAgentFrenzy list. #TSN

I feel dirty but dare we consider picking up Corey Perry as a UFA?

Munny

Jaxon:
Is there a limit to how many money retained contracts you can have at any given time? Ottawa has zero at the moment.

Three contracts and 15 percent of upper cap limit maximum.

(So approx. $12.3M, depending on where the cap ends up)

Rondo

Maybe Oilers should draft Ted-Jan Bloemen at #8. Elite speed

Broberg is a consensus mid rd pick.

godot10

Jaxon:
How much could/would Ottawa retain for 3 second round draft picks in a 4 way trade. Edmonton, Calgary, and Vancouver all trade their dead weight (Lucic, Neal, and Ericsson) to Ottawa who retains 50% and sends Lucic to Van, Nealto Edm, and Erickson to Cgy for a decent prospect from a position of depth from each team. Ottawa adds $9M in cap and gets 3 second round picks and 3 prospects. That’s a fast rebuild for them. Is that too much to give up for Edmonton? What prospect would you give up? Lagesson level? Is there a rule that would prevent that?

Basically, you’re sending away a second round pick and a depth prospect for $3M in cap space and a similar player.

Ottawa wants dead cap that doesn’t cost them actual money. Ericksson, Lucic, and Neal don’t qualify.

David Clarkson does.

Ottawa is a cash poor team. They will take on cap that doesn’t cost them any money.

Pouzar

v4ance:
Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli

#NHLDucks are in the process of finalizing paperwork to buy out Corey Perry this morning. Perry is not expected to be placed on waivers, by virtue of his no-move clause. Big name for the #FreeAgentFrenzy list. #TSN

I feel dirty but dare we consider picking up Corey Perry as a UFA?

He isn’t slow enough.

dustrock

Seravelli reporting Perry will be bought out.

Oilers will trade 8th with Lucic for Eriksson and then sign Perry and then the Rapture will arrive and it will all be meaningless.

Reja

jp:
Lowetide,

Thanks for re-posting the Swedish Poster’s Broberg scouting report. I know the team needs skill forwards, but based on SP Broberg is likely also a worthy pick. Another Nurse at number 8 isn’t actually a bad result.

We need forwards with skill we haven’t had this many D-men in the pipeline in forever. We lost Gustafsson last year and if we don’t start playing these prospects were gonna lose another one or two for nothing without ever knowing what we have. They could very well turn out better and definitely cheaper then what we have.

defmn

I have no idea if Broberg is a smart pick at #8 or not but I am fairly confident that if the Oilers do choose him there is somebody in the organization that Holland needs to fire for talking too much.

No way should a team’s draft pick choice be public knowledge weeks in advance.

Munny

godot10: McDavid and Draisaitl are the goal scorers you are looking for.

Cozens or Krebs.

Cozens is a goal-scorer. If you wanted to list another playmaker, you go Dach.

And no team survives with only two goal-scorers, but carry on carrying on.

Munny

Pouzar: He isn’t slow enough.

Ha!

godot10

Pescador: I think we all have time for Gagner in a 4th line winger/ 2nd PP unit/ guy who can cover temporary top 6 mins.
The best play for Gagner is to send him to Ott for a pick & find a guy who can do this job for $1M and utilize the additional cap space

Ottawa is a cash poor team. They will take on cap only if no actual money is involved. Gagner does not qualify.

If Ottawa had that money, they would just overpay Duchene in free agency to make the lower bound.

albertaboundedmonton

Long time reader and occasional contributor I just signed up for the Athletic for my Father’s Day gift to me. And thanks Lowetide for talking me into it. Loving it so far.

LadiesloveSmid

I feel like there’s a top 8.

No reason to take Broberg over Dach/Cozens/Caufield/Zegras. I prefer Boldy too. If they were picking 10th I might not hate the pick.

texmex

v4ance:
Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli

#NHLDucks are in the process of finalizing paperwork to buy out Corey Perry this morning. Perry is not expected to be placed on waivers, by virtue of his no-move clause. Big name for the #FreeAgentFrenzy list. #TSN

I feel dirty but dare we consider picking up Corey Perry as a UFA?

Someone will overpay Perry big time. Think Vinny LeCavailier

Ben

No problem here with the Broberg pick. As long as it’s around 15th overall.

They can add some real value by moving back. Had they gone through with it in the JP draft they’d have Backlund and Sergachev on the roster today.

Personally, I see zero reason for all of this telegraphing around the pick unless it’s tactical. Or unless the team is run by a bunch of feckless fuddie-duddies (excuse my language).

Gerta Rauss

If we sign Corey Perry and Mike Smith, I’m gonna….well… I’m not sure what I’m gonna do

But it’s not gonna be good, that’s for sure

Reja

admiralmark:
No matter how you cut it 90% of the scouts and scouting agencies say Broberg would be a big reach at #8. So safe pick it is not. Between this potential move and say a Zaitsev pickup all that Holland hope can go out the window in a hurry this weekend. I’ll see what happens but i’m not enjoying much of the verbal i’m hearing leading up to Draft weekend.. not one bit.

If they forgot to change the water filter out again we’re screwed.

LadiesloveSmid

Per Rishaug,

Good chance of Broberg being the pick, JP going for a 3rd line forward if it’s out there, Benning on the market to make room for Bouch/Persson/Jones (???), and taking a hard look at Connolly.

At least the Connolly take is positive. Yeesh.

I’d take a flyer on Perry, doubt he’d come to EDM.

Munny

Jim Matheson‏ @NHLbyMatty · 10m10 minutes ago

Broberg to the Oilers is the wild-card of course. We know Oiler scouts really like him but they have Bouchard and Samorukov, Caleb Jones and Ethan Bear and Joel Persson coming from Sweden on a one-way. Can never have enough D, but…Edm needs forwards.

godot10

Munny: Cozens is a goal-scorer. If you wanted to list another playmaker, you go Dach.

And no team survives with only two goal-scorers, but carry on carrying on.

Cozens is a lot of things, including a goal scorer, including familiarity with the front of the net, including backchecking. He is an all-around player with a diverse skill set.

It is hard to tell how good a goalscorer Krebs might be because he had to be the playmaker in Kootenay. But again, an all-around toolkit.