Filip Berglund in Goodbye Again

by Lowetide

The Edmonton Oilers are making decisions way up and down the line of the prospect pool these days. On Saturday, the team signed Raphael Lavoie and at some point in recent days may have made the decision to pass on signing defenceman Filip Berglund.

What does that mean? Lavoie is probable for Bakersfield in the fall and Ken Holland has a defenseman he likes more than Berglund. Unless Berglund’s contract contains an out clause that allows him to sign with Edmonton, the die is cast.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, check it out here.

  • New Lowetide: Oilers get good news from the farm as second-half performances spike
  • Lowetide: Should Oilers prospect Philip Broberg play in North America next year?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman and Jonathan Willis: Which former Oiler has the best argument to have his jersey number retired?
  • Lowetide: Which Oilers veterans are in roster peril?
  • Jonathan Willis: How good is Anton Slepyshev and what will an NHL return mean for the Oilers?
  • Jonathan Willis: Peter Chiarelli wants to be a GM again. Has he learned from his Oilers mistakes?
  • New Lowetide: Oilers’ challenge could be finding relief with a low cap ceiling
  • Lowetide: Projecting Oilers prospects Raphael Lavoie and Kirill Maksimov
  • Lowetide: What does Jesse Puljujarvi’s Liiga season tell us about his future?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: How Oilers plan to help arena workers unclear with games postponed
  • Lowetide: NHL season on hold might impact Oilers evaluations, summer plans
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman and Jonathan Willis: Key questions surround Oilers in wake of NHL’s coronavirus suspension
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Q&A: GM Ken Holland on Oilers’ playoff push, offseason plans and Hart thoughts
  • Jonathan Willis: Evan Bouchard, Tyler Benson and more: 20 observations on the Bakersfield Condors
  • Lowetide: Caleb Jones represents Oilers template for development success
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Determining Connor McDavid’s linemates remains a pressing and perplexing problem
  • Jonathan Willis: Which players pose the biggest threat to Leon Draisaitl winning the Hart Trophy?
  • Lowetide: Is the OHL still the Oilers’ primary resource at the draft?

50-MAN LIST (40)

If you look at the defense today, and assume Ryan Mantha won’t return, Edmonton has 12 men signed or RFA at this time. Even if the club signs Mike Green in free agency, the AHL club will need four more blue. That assumes Broberg comes over and there are no assurances.

No. I think the Berglund news tells us the organization is pleased with Bear and Bouchard for the NHL and have superior options for Bakersfield.

Anything internal? Philip Kemp has one more year of college but could sign. Michael Kesselring completed his first college season at Northeastern, it’s unlikely he’ll sign.

Markus Niemelainen and Graham McPhee are the two men who must be signed this summer or Edmonton will lose their rights (along with Berglund).

Among the players on the Oilers reserve list, I think Anton Slepyshev is the most likely to be signed. That’s based on several reports (believe Matty was the first) over the last few months.

THE 2016 DRAFT

As you may know, I’m a believer in draft clusters. A two-or three year run can build a dynasty or pretty near, with the 1972-74 Islanders, 1979-81 Oilers and 1989-91 Red Wings being prime examples.

The Edmonton Oilers 2014 draft produced Leon Draisaitl, the 2015 edition Connor McDavid, Ethan Bear and Caleb Jones (plus John Marino). The 2016 draft? Nine picks, including Jesse Puljujarvi at No. 4 overall and Tyler Benson at No. 32 overall, and three picks in the third round that have a good chance to miss (or emerge later with other teams).

To borrow a word from the great philosopher Casey Kasem, the 2016 draft was ponderous. Edmonton badly needed a couple of forwards from that draft and it looks like it might be just Benson.

That 2016 draft needed to be far better. I don’t know how you recover from it, but the Oilers are down a couple of scoring wingers today. I wonder what Ken Holland is thinking about Jesse Puljujarvi today.

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Brantford Boy

LT: “I wonder what Ken Holland is thinking about Jesse Puljujarvi today.”

I have to think Holland is thinking… with the year he had overseas is there any GM willing to give me a late first round pick for a player that seems destined to not be an Edmonton Oiler.

jp

Has there been direct confirmation from the player or organization that Berglund won’t be signed? Him signing with another SHL team is a tell for sure, just wondered if this is ‘official’.

I guess you’re right that Holland sees better options though. I expect it’s likely a Gravel type or 2 may spend a lot of time in Bakersfield next season.

v4ance

Isn’t Berglund making the decision like Marino by looking at the Oilers depth chart and not seeing a soft entry directly onto the NHL roster?

In 2 years, maybe Larsson and Benning are gone and then maybe there’s a slim chance to woo Berglund over. But then again, he’ll be able to choose from all 32 teams…

dessert1111

I wonder if the Oilers offered him something but he preferred to take the sure thing in Sweden?

A bit odd that they wouldn’t have wanted to bring him over on an ELC considering his progression. But they would’ve had a lot of views given he’s on Broberg’s team.

defmn

Disappointing. I guess we will find out in the coming days whose decision this was – Berglund’s or Holland’s.

jtblack

“with the 1972-74 Islanders, 1979-81 Oilers and 1989-91 Red Wings being prime examples. ”

other examples. PENS 2004-2006 , HAWKS 2003-2007

it is very hard to nail 2 or 3 drafts in a row. Edmonton had their big chance 2014 – 2016. Although 2015 will always be good, it could have been game changing good. As you alluded, 2016 looks like a miss, with no impact players delivered (don’t see Benson as an impact player).

When teams miss, they just kick the can further down the road … McDavid has played 5 seasons. 1 playoffs and I would add this year as well. So 2 playoffs in 5 years … Let’s hope McDavid and the Oilers are a regular participant in the playoffs over the next 5 years !

Oilman99

defmn,

I think its obvious that if the player was not dominating at the SHL level after several years, that he will be a borderline NHL player at best, time to move on.

godot10

Berglund probably decided that he wanted to have the NHL team of his choice. He has waited this long. Play a year or two more in Sweden and then pick your NHL team based on opportunity with little to no time spent in the AHL.

Playing in the SHL and then having your choice of 31 teams seems pretty logical

geowal

I gather the Oil won’t have his rights after these two years?

defmn

Oilman99:
defmn,

I think its obvious that if the player was not dominating at the SHL level after several years, that he will be a borderline NHL player at best, time to move on.

I would be surprised if this was the Oilers choice. I think it far more likely that Berglund made this decision.

OriginalPouzar

I was listening on the Lowetide this morning when Al and Tyler were discussing the Berglund SHL signing, and I mentioned this in yesterday’s thread.

I don’t think the SHL signing precludes a signing with the Oilers and coming to North America.

My understanding is that the NHL and SHL have a transfer agreement of sorts and players under contract in the SHL can come to North America and a transfer fee is paid to the SIHA.

This isn’t like the KHL where a KHL contract precludes signing in the NHL.

Recall, Joel Persson signed with the Oilers while under contract to Vaxjo and the Oilers “loaned him to Vaxjo” which did burn his ELC.

This wouldn’t be the identical situation as, presumably, he comes over, however, I don’t think this signing precludes an NHL signing.

Primetime

I’m not sure this is correct OP. I don’t think you can have 2 contracts signed with 2 separate teams.

When Persson signed, he was a free agent, he did not have a contract with Vaxjo. The Oilers then loaned him, under the terms of their contract, and presumably paid his salary, to Vaxjo to let him play there.

If Berglund has actually signed with an SHL team, they would have to terminate the contract for him to play in the NHL. Which I suppose could happen, but sounds unlikely if he signed for 2 years.

OriginalPouzar

I don’t imagine a Kesselring signing will happen for at least two more seasons – I like this prospect quite a bit but he’s one that will need a development path.

I recall, around Christmas I believe, Howson speak about Niemelainen and how he had a strong year and is on the radar to potentially be signed. Of course, Howson was also speak of Berglund and how they’d like to sign him. I know Howson is soon to be out of the organization (moving on to work for the AHL) but I wouldn’t be surprised to see a Niemelainen signing.

I think they walk from McPhee but look to sign Rasanen next year (along with Kemp – no-brainer on Kemp)

digger50

Of course we don’t know much about Berglund and how much guidance he recieved. But if he was looking are at Edmonton he may see a log jam and wonder if he wants to fill in at the AHL level. He could also look at Marino’s path and perhaps that Joel Persson.

jp

Lowetide: NHL respects SHL contracts, so a two-year deal puts it to bed. There was no “loan” mentioned ala Lagesson.

Didn’t see it was 2 years. A little disappointing/surprising, but Holland has earned some rope with his personnel decisions in my eyes at least.

Harpers Hair

digger50:
Of course we don’t know much about Berglund and how much guidance he recieved. But if he was looking are at Edmonton he may see a log jam and wonder if he wants to fill in at the AHL level. He could also look at Marino’s path and perhaps that Joel Persson.

This.

The Oilers D system is clogged.

The herd will be culled.

pts2pndr

The D is not clogged per se. The left side has Klefbom, Nurse and Russel with one year left on his contract and Jones and Lagesson pushing for third pairing. If you see Russel as the 7th D no clog. Right side Bear, Larsson and Benning (rfa), with Bouchard pushing for right side. I believe that Russel because of contract and Benning because concussion problems may be moved. There currently is no opening for NHL employment however there is opportunity for right side as injury replacement or third pairing. Russel and Benning can be moved with little or no impact on the team. I’m not sure but moving an RFA that is an NHL D and a cap restrictive contract culling the herd. Culling the herd as I recall from my younger days would entail much larger cuts. Clearing an impending short term log jam might be more appropriate terminology.

v4ance

Video from Italy showing the impact of coronavirus:

https://twitter.com/mans_not_hott/status/1241806787134869505?s=20

OriginalPouzar

Dick Pound (IOC member) says the Olympics will be postponed.

I don’t think this is official but this is a no-brainer.

jtblack

OriginalPouzar:
Dick Pound (IOC member) says the Olympics will be postponed.

I don’t think this is official but this is a no-brainer.

it is official

Munny

OriginalPouzar:
I was listening on the Lowetide this morning when Al and Tyler were discussing the Berglund SHL signing, and I mentioned this in yesterday’s thread.

I don’t think the SHL signing precludes a signing with the Oilers and coming to North America.

My understanding is that the NHL and SHL have a transfer agreement of sorts and players under contract in the SHL can come to North America and a transfer fee is paid to the SIHA.

This isn’t like the KHL where a KHL contract precludes signing in the NHL.

Recall, Joel Persson signed with the Oilers while under contract to Vaxjo and the Oilers “loaned him to Vaxjo” which did burn his ELC.

This wouldn’t be the identical situation as, presumably, he comes over, however, I don’t think this signing precludes an NHL signing.

This is my understanding too. I would add that some SHL contracts appear to have a out-clause where they are somehow nullified if the player obtains an NHL deal.

defmn

OriginalPouzar:
Dick Pound (IOC member) says the Olympics will be postponed.

I don’t think this is official but this is a no-brainer.

John Mehrzad QC
@JohnMehrzadQC
1. A few thoughts on the ‘elephant in the room’ in the @Tokyo2020
coverage about whether it should be cancelled or postponed.

2. Neither Japanese government nor IOC wish to cancel or, presently, call for a postponement despite athletes and federations calling for a decision for obvious reasons.

3. The IOC and Japan are parties to a contractual host city agreement, setting out mutual obligations for the performance of the @Olympics

4. The party that ‘cancels’ or ‘postpones’ that agreement, unless mutually agreed by the other party, will put itself in breach of contract and expose itself to huge (billions $) of damages claims.

5. That litigation will last for years, being hugely costly not just financially but reputationally. There will be spin-off litigation from suppliers, sponsors and media networks etc who have already spent huge sums preparing for the @Olympics

6. It would seem that neither Japan or the IOC which to be the party to pull the ‘trigger’ – ie be the party in breach of the host city agreement, and expose itself to crippling claims. There looks to be a ‘game of chicken’ taking place.

7. A postponement may limit damages, but it will still lead to huge claims which will drag on for years.

8. There will, ordinarily, be insurance coverage in place for ‘force majeur’ incidents, but insurance will necessarily be capped and even the insurer may litigate over liability.

9. Of course, if Japan and the IOC delay any decision, causing as a result athletes to pull out themselves (such as Canada with other countries, probably, to follow) – then they can argue the host city agreement is ‘frustrated’ as @Olympics
cannot take place without athletes.

10. The concept of ‘frustration’ is recognised in Swiss Law (then IOC is based in that jurisdiction). There would then be a strong(er) defence to any future damages claims if the @Olympics
are cancelled/postponed as a result of a ‘no-show’ by athletes.

jp

godot10:
Berglund probably decided that he wanted to have the NHL team of his choice.He has waited this long.Play a year or two more in Sweden and then pick your NHL team based on opportunity with little to no time spent in the AHL.

Playing in the SHL and then having your choice of 31 teams seems pretty logical

Seems he’s free to sign with any NHL team, so the SHL deal probably isn’t about the Oilers depth. Maybe he’s just happy at home vs in the AHL?

Edit: free to sign with any NHL team as of June 1st.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/oilers/reserve-list

Harpers Hair
GordieHoweHatTrick

Shame about Berglund.
I was looking forward to having more depth options at RD.
Too bad he couldn’t even be signed and flipped for something else needed.

jp

Harpers Hair: This.

The Oilers D system is clogged.

The herd will be culled.

You make it sound like a bad thing the Oilers are brimming with D prospects. This is pretty much ideal, no?

Jethro Tull

No, ideally you’d want to realize some assets in return, rather than them slipping quietly into the night. Even if it is just low picks, it keeps the fish pond stocked, and you never know, one might grow big…..

It’s better to think of it as a tub that has a drain and a fill. You want to re-fill as fast as you lose water, rather than letting it either drain entirely (takes too long to fill) or overflow (losing water to where it isn’t supposed to be).

jp

Well sure, you want to get something for departing assets, but I’m not sure it was possible to with Berglund. He’s free to sign with any NHL team June 1st and still chose to re-up in Sweden. I’m not sure there’s interest in the player or that he’d return even a late round pick if he were signed. (alternatively, there is interest but the player isn’t into apprenticing in the AHL)

I guess we’ll see, if he doesn’t sign with another NHL club this off season I don’t see an argument the Oilers should have done so. I’d have liked to see him in Bakersfield, but you can’t have everything.

More generally you’re absolutely right that keeping the pond stocked is ideal. I’d argue the Oilers are in range of doing that. And I’m sure as hell happier with where the D pipeline is than when the team was able to attract J Schultz to walk straight into the top 4.

Harpers Hair

Carolina got a second round and third round pick from the Rangers when they traded him.

Fox was also used as a sweetener by Calgary when they acquired Elias Lindholm and Noah Hanafin.

Both teams were pro-active in how they handled his unwillingness to sign and walked away with assets.

OriginalPouzar

NHL provided an update (although with little substantive information because, well, there isn’t any to provide yet).

One thing that came up is something I have mentioned a few times because Bettman has mentioned it at least 3 times (that I’ve heard/read) – the league does not want a delay in this season to cause interference with next season. The latest the cup has been handed out has been July 24 – twice.

I don’t imagine that they would have play continue past the end of July.

—————–

Q: If the NHL playoffs go into July and/or August, could there be a shortened regular season next year?

A. No. We do not anticipate a scenario in our resumption of play format that would endanger or interfere with the League’s ability to stage and execute the 2020-21 NHL season in its entirety.

Jethro Tull

Gary has to realistically contemplate this going well into next year.

Say all current measures are successful (data shows they won’t be), and the virus is slowed enough that the health system isn’t swamped. Shit, say a magic wand was waved and nobody had Corona anymore, right this instant, there are plenty who didn’t catch it and we have no idea where the virus was spread onto/into /around. It would start up all over again, all be it slowly at first – again.

All we’re doing is fighting a rear-guard action until either a viable vaccine (improbable, given that it’s a virus) or the weather coupled with severe isolation mitigates it.

Time – People Hours – Money. Those are the big three, in that order.

Munny

Two candidates for vaccine are moving to Phase I Trials:

Moderna’s encapsulated mRNA-based candidate and CanSino’s Adenovirus Type 5 Vector candidate.

These trials began last week and are expected to take about 3 months. If successful, approx a year to commercial-level production, but can be made available to health workers and other high-risk people under Emergency Use Authorizations by autumn..

Wish them the best of luck.

There are 42 other vaccine candidates but they are still at the pre-clinical stage.

All of the above as reported by the WHO.

N64

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MARGARET BRENNAN: The Trump administration announced this past week that the first trial through NIH of a vaccine was started out in Seattle. Given the timeline for this, do resources need to be refocused from a vaccine into some of the treatments that- that you are talking about?

DR. GOTTLIEB: I think absolutely. We could have a drug, a potential prophylactic drug that could prevent people from getting an infection or even treating infection as early as this summer, especially when you look at some of the approaches where companies are developing antibodies that directly target the virus. I think this is highly promising. We need to be putting a lot of resources into that.

Senator Daines introduced a provision in Capitol Hill that may be included in the final package and what it would do is it would basically scale up manufacturing right away for the promising treatments that make it into the government’s sanction trials. So that if one ends up working, we’re ready to distribute it on a mass scale. You have literally millions of doses available. Now, what’s going to happen is a lot of those drugs won’t work and we’re going to end up throwing away the drug that we manufactured. But I think that’s a small price to pay for the benefit of having drug available, if in fact one proves that it’s working.

Munny

This is the area where biotech can make a difference much sooner and quicker.

Munny

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Harpers Hair

jp: You make it sound like a bad thing the Oilers are brimming with D prospects. This is pretty much ideal, no?

Not at all.

But it means you have to be really sure that the guys in the system are better than the ones fleeing the organization.

John Marino is a very good, recent example of this.

Calgary had the same issue with Adam Fox and he also blossomed right away.

These players just won’t sign if there is no clear path to a roster spot and, for those prospects with options, years toiling in the AHL won’t be attractive.

I don’t know about you but I wouldn’t find the prospect of spending years in Bakersfield very attractive.

RonnieB

jp: Harpers Hair: This.
The Oilers D system is clogged.
The herd will be culled.

You make it sound like a bad thing the Oilers are brimming with D prospects. This is pretty much ideal, no?

If you believe the Oilers are brimming with D prospects you might want to take another peek at our RD. Assuming that Larsson, Bear, Benning and Bouchard will be playing in the NHL next season (whether with the Oilers or traded to another team) that leaves a soon-to-be 26 years old and unsigned Logan Day as the only RD for Bakersfield. It’s hard to believe that Berglund took a look at our depth chart and decided he couldn’t see a path to the NHL.

While we weren’t paying attention, it seems we have returned to the dreaded leftorium from a couple of years ago.

Harpers Hair

RonnieB: If you believe the Oilers are brimming with D prospects you might want to take another peek at our RD. Assuming that Larsson, Bear, Benning and Bouchard will be playing in the NHL next season (whether with the Oilers or traded to another team) that leaves a soon-to-be 26 years old and unsigned Logan Day as the only RD for Bakersfield. It’s hard to believe that Berglund took a look at our depth chart and decided he couldn’tsee a path to the NHL.

I can certainly see a path to Bakersfield but Larsson, Bear, Benning and Bouchard makes four NHL RHD.

Why would Berglund get excited about making peanuts in the AHL when he can do much better at home?

Bakersfield’s depth chart is likely very, very low on his list of priorities.

RonnieB

Harpers Hair,

With all the talk about trading Larsson and walking Benning how long would Berglund be held back if he is NHL capable ?

Harpers Hair

RonnieB:
Harpers Hair,

With all the talk about trading Larsson and walking Benning how long would Berglund be held back if he is NHL capable ?

I’m sure he and his agent took that into consideration but the talk has not been coming from the Oilers organization.

Let me use the World Famous Brogan Rafferty as a parallel.

He and his agent could see that both RHD Chris Tanev and Troy Stecher would be becoming free agents at the end of this season and it’s highly unlikely that the Canucks will bring back both.

Not only did Rafferty become the #1RD right away in Utica but he had a clear path to an NHL roster spot next season.

Berglund had no such path and even if the Oilers were to dispose of, say, Benning, he is still blocked by Larsson, Bear, Bouchard and possibly Green.

Berglund will be 23 in just over a month and likely wouldn’t find spending a couple of seasons in the AHL either attractive or productive.

OriginalPouzar

Howson is going to be on Oilers Now tomorrow and I am very hopeful that Stauff asks him about Berglund and, if the door is closed on the Oilers singing him and, if so, what happened.

Last I heard from Howson, I think around Christmas, the organization was pretty on board with signing this guy.

OriginalPouzar

I also hear today that the Memorial Cup organizers have blocked off a bunch of hotels and such for late June – obviously in flux but they are still hoping for a Memorial Cup.

I don’t imagine they’ll be able to play then, but if they can, I wonder how that will look with no OHL, WHL, QMJHL playoffs….

OriginalPouzar

jp:
Has there been direct confirmation from the player or organization that Berglund won’t be signed? Him signing with another SHL team is a tell for sure, just wondered if this is ‘official’.

I guess you’re right that Holland sees better options though. I expect it’s likely a Gravel type or 2 may spend a lot of time in Bakersfield next season.

I am still hopeful that the book is not closed on this player in the organization – I don’t think he’s even “that blocked” – not with Larsson being one year until UFA and Benning being, well, under-used by the current coach it seems.

In any event, I wouldn’t have been surprised to see Berglund get NHL games this coming year – even compete with Bouchard for 3RD potentially.

I’m very intrigued to hear Scott Howson on Oilers Now tomorrow – hopefully some insight.

OriginalPouzar

v4ance:
Isn’t Berglund making the decision like Marino by looking at the Oilers depth chart and not seeing a soft entry directly onto the NHL roster?

In 2 years, maybe Larsson and Benning are gone and then maybe there’s a slim chance to woo Berglund over.But then again, he’ll be able to choose from all 32 teams…

I don’t think that’s it – if that was the case, he wouldn’t have signed with the SHL team and signed with another NHL team when he officially is no longer Oiler property in a few months here.

Assuming this closes the book on an NHL signing this year – I’m not 100% convinced yet.

OriginalPouzar

dessert1111:
I wonder if the Oilers offered him something but he preferred to take the sure thing in Sweden?

A bit odd that they wouldn’t have wanted to bring him over on an ELC considering his progression. But they would’ve had a lot of views given he’s on Broberg’s team.

An ELC, by definition, must be a two-way contract.

I don’t think he’s sitting on mad stacks in the SHL but probably makes more than the AHL salary that would be part of his ELC. There are contracts that have large AHL salaries and/or guaranteed money above their AHL salary but I don’t think that can be included in an ELC.

I’m very confident that, unless something happened over the last few months, the Oilers would want to sign this guy – Howson all but said it on air a few months ago.

OriginalPouzar

OriginalPouzar:
I also hear today that the Memorial Cup organizers have blocked off a bunch of hotels and such for late June – obviously in flux but they are still hoping for a Memorial Cup.

I don’t imagine they’ll be able to play then, but if they can, I wonder how that will look with no OHL, WHL, QMJHL playoffs….

That didn’t age well – CHL announces cancellation of the playoffs and the Memorial Cup…

jp

Harpers Hair: Not at all.

But it means you have to be really sure that the guys in the system are better than the ones fleeing the organization.

John Marino is a very good, recent example of this.

Calgary had the same issue with Adam Fox and he also blossomed right away.

These players just won’t sign if there is no clear path to a roster spot and, for those prospects with options, years toiling in the AHL won’t be attractive.

I don’t know about you but I wouldn’t find the prospect of spending years in Bakersfield very attractive.

Nope, years in Bakersfield doesn’t sound like fun.

But having strong depth is always going to dissuade incoming players that have options.

The other thing is you can’t expect every single player to sign. And the examples you give are as much about where they want to live/play as the depth charts of the orgs they left. Berglund I suspect is the same.

OriginalPouzar

jtblack:
“with the 1972-74 Islanders, 1979-81 Oilers and 1989-91 Red Wings being prime examples. ”

other examples. PENS 2004-2006 , HAWKS 2003-2007

it is very hard to nail 2 or 3 drafts in a row. Edmonton had their big chance 2014 – 2016. Although 2015 will always be good, it could have been game changing good. As you alluded, 2016 looks like a miss, with no impact players delivered (don’t see Benson as an impact player).

When teams miss, they just kick the can further down the road …McDavid has played 5 seasons.1 playoffs and I would add this year as well. So 2 playoffs in 5 years … Let’s hope McDavid and the Oilers are a regular participant in the playoffs over the next 5 years !

Everything the current GM has done since his hire in the spring has been to work towards a regular participant in the playoffs and a true contender – year after year.

Yes, of course, some smaller moves were made to try and improve the current roster for a playoff push but, as we saw, the GM refused to stray from his primary goal and ultimate plan.

O. Pouzar likes!

jp

OriginalPouzar: I don’t think that’s it – if that was the case, he wouldn’t have signed with the SHL team and signed with another NHL team when he officially is no longer Oiler property in a few months here.

Assuming this closes the book on an NHL signing this year – I’m not 100% convinced yet.

Well it’s not a great indicator he’ll sign with the Oilers. But I do agree it’s not final. And also agree the SHL deal is extremely unlikely to be due to the Oilers depth chart since yes, he can sign with any NHL team as of June 1st

Munny

Drives me nuts that CHED always leaves Hinshaw’s PCs before they are over.

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Scott Stinson: With Tokyo Olympics call, Team Canada may have shamed IOC into doing the right thing — 23 March 2020

Epidemiological summary of COVID-19 cases in Canada

Today I’ve seen time-since-symptom-onset in several Canadian contexts for the first time.

Shows up trends much sooner, and probably part of a coordinated strategy to get the word out that social distancing really works.

The peak in daily new cases on the 19th could in part reflect a baby boom following the peak of 10–12 March as large gatherings (professional sports) rapidly shut down.

Canada was neck and neck with Australia, whose reported data spiked today.

Coronavirus: How did Australia’s Ruby Princess cruise debacle happen? — 23 March 2020

On Thursday, the Ruby Princess cruise ship docked in Sydney with dozens of undiagnosed coronavirus cases onboard.

Almost 2,700 passengers—some coughing and spluttering—were allowed to leave the ship at Sydney Harbour, catching trains, buses and even overseas flights to get home.

At least 48 people who have tested positive have now been traced to the cruise, making it the biggest single source of infections in Australia.

It’s all going so well … and then 14,000 people swoop into town for a dental convention. Add 5–7 days to 5-7 March, and watch the flowers bloom on the Canadian COVID summary.

On Apollo 13 the crew asked Mission Control “are the flowers blooming in Houston” as a way of asking if Ken Mattingly had the measles.

And on Apollo 16 Charlie Duke asked how one of his stocks, Consolidated Jackpine, was doing. Only thing is, there was no Consolidated Jackpine. He did that to play a joke on the media because he knew they would spin their wheels trying to find out what this company did and why Charlie Duke would want to own it.

I think he actually meant Consolation Jackpine. It’s a lonely business up there in space.

“You Are Your Safest Sex Partner”: Why New York Is Encouraging Masturbation in the Time of COVID-19 — 23 March 2020

Better yet for anyone in self-isolation, the golden age of sex toys that serve all bodies is, at long last, here—and safely getting in touch with your body will always be a powerful form of self-care.

Your government, on the job.

New Improved Darkness

Because the new-case chart won’t stay the same, here’s what I’m seeing today:

2020-03-01 16
2020-03-02 13
2020-03-03 26
2020-03-04 23
2020-03-05 20
2020-03-06 21
2020-03-07 32
2020-03-08 41
2020-03-09 70
2020-03-10 92
2020-03-11 86
2020-03-12 84

2020-03-13 73
2020-03-14 55
2020-03-15 56

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Dates not yet finalized.

2020-03-16 50
2020-03-17 44
2020-03-18 46
2020-03-19 66
2020-03-20 37
2020-03-21 10
2020-03-22 6

Close but no Ciger

For you analytics or epidemiology nerds here’s a pretty comprehensive site created by Oxford researchers: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus

Eyeballing one of the graphs it looks like there’s some correlation between weather and confirmed cases so maybe a bit of reprieve in summer, especially for countries like Italy and USA that are on a longer trajectory, and also buys time until we see an effective antiviral.

Here’s a site with provincial data: https://www.covid-19canada.com/

Quebec just tripled their confirmed cases in one day. Hold on to your butts.

Kinger_Oil.redux

– This site is now my alternate universe release thingy: thousands of new cases, are we in a depression, that will cause civil unrest, starting to know people who get the virus: what, wait, oh no, are you kidding me, they didn’t sign Bergland: Holy F%ck, what a disastor. Hey that milli-second of outrage was real

v4ance

Carl Zimmer @carlzimmer

“A man has died and his wife is under critical care after the couple, both in their 60s, ingested chloroquine phosphate, an additive commonly used at aquariums to clean fish tanks.”

***

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/23/nigeria-reports-chloroquine-overdoses-after-trump-without-evidence-touted-drug

Nigeria Reports Chloroquine Overdoses After Trump—Without Evidence—Touted Drug as Possible Coronavirus Treatment
“It only took a day for the president’s tweets to get people hospitalized.”

Halfwise

It’s not whether you win or lose, it’s how you lay the blame. Right?

Decidedly Skeptical Fan

v4ance:
Carl Zimmer @carlzimmer

“A man has died and his wife is under critical care after the couple, both in their 60s, ingested chloroquine phosphate, an additive commonly used at aquariums to clean fish tanks.”

***

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/23/nigeria-reports-chloroquine-overdoses-after-trump-without-evidence-touted-drug

Nigeria Reports Chloroquine Overdoses After Trump—Without Evidence—Touted Drug as Possible Coronavirus Treatment
“It only took a day for the president’s tweets to get people hospitalized.”

I was really beginning to worry that Trump wasn’t going to be blamed for anything today. Thanks for relieving my anxiety.

Harpers Hair

OriginalPouzar: I don’t think that’s it – if that was the case, he wouldn’t have signed with the SHL team and signed with another NHL team when he officially is no longer Oiler property in a few months here.

Assuming this closes the book on an NHL signing this year – I’m not 100% convinced yet.

Virtually every team has a “Berglund”.

But some have a path forward for them.

This train has sailed.

pts2pndr

That train has left the station or that ship has sailed. Stay healthy.?

v4ance

Michael Welling @WellingMichael

#Spain “Doctors in #EspañaFlag of Spain with tears in their eyes tell how people over 65 must have their respirators removed to give it to the younger people suffering . Seniors are sedated so they don’t suffer. ” #CoronavirusPandemic #CoronaVirusUpdates

https://twitter.com/WellingMichael/status/1241491706677284870?s=20

hunter1909

Kinger_Oil.redux:
– This site is now my alternate universe release thingy: thousands of new cases, are we in a depression, that will cause civil unrest,starting to know people who get the virus: what, wait, oh no, are you kidding me, they didn’t sign Bergland: Holy F%ck, what a disastor.Hey that milli-second of outrage was real

At least people have their priorities in order.

defmn

v4ance:
Carl Zimmer @carlzimmer

“A man has died and his wife is under critical care after the couple, both in their 60s, ingested chloroquine phosphate, an additive commonly used at aquariums to clean fish tanks.”

***

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/23/nigeria-reports-chloroquine-overdoses-after-trump-without-evidence-touted-drug

Nigeria Reports Chloroquine Overdoses After Trump—Without Evidence—Touted Drug as Possible Coronavirus Treatment
“It only took a day for the president’s tweets to get people hospitalized.”

This is total nonsense.

Decidedly Skeptical Fan

Please be kind. OCD … he can’t help himself.