Is That All There Is?

by Lowetide

The Oilers tacked an extra year on Kris Russell’s contract yesterday, some people went a half bubble off plumb but most saw the big picture. For the record, no one complained about Kris Russell per se, it was Kris Russell’s no movement, four-year deal paying $4 million a year that caused the crazy.

Those $4 million dollars were the only thing left between Peter Chiarellia and a paralyzed roster, and he signed the deal anyway. That’s not on Russell, but it is a conversation piece when the contract is being discussed.

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LAND MINES

This offseason has been a series of rumours, followed by an action, and then more rumours. The period leading up to Jacob Markstrom’s signing in Calgary saw the Oilers rumour mill moving like a weather vane in a hurricane.

At that point, I was preparing to write an article called “Markstorm in, Koskinen out?” but it never came to pass. The $6 million that would have gone to Markstrom landed with Tyson Barrie, Kyle Turris and Tyler Ennis.

I believe this is a far better route, due to my new policy on free agent contracts: If the deal looks nothing like the Lucic deal Chiarelli signed, then two thumb’s up!

My question is “will Holland do anything else?” and by that I mean add a player with a chance to make a difference. So that would be Anthony Duclair, Dominik Kahun, Slater Koekkoek or Jacques Plante. Is there a move like that out there?

There’s still $2 million plus left over after signing Kahun and moving Oscar Klefbom to LTIR. That means another move could be made if a player wanted to sign in Edmonton during training camp or preseason. There are going to be some astounding names coming in on PTO’s heading into the 2020-21 campaign.

PTO’S

I wonder if there’s a goalie the club could invite. I don’t know about Craig Anderson, Jimmy Howard or Ryan Miller (all remain on TSN’s free-agent board) but maybe Zane McIntyre is worth a look. I’m on record as believing Edmonton will have three or more goalies playing during 2020-21, might as well look at everyone.

I think the playoff showed no one really knows who has been working out like a bugger and who is drinking beer, smoking cigarettes and watching Captain Kangaroo. It’s a crapshoot.

I also think there’s a chance some of these late 30’s goalies are going to contemplate retirement. One wonders if a mid-season call to one of them will be among Holland’s options in case of injury/inconsistent play.

Hell, invite a bunch of guys on a PTO, something similar to Buck Rodgers and he did with the Expos pitching staff spring 1987 when Pascual Perez, Dennis Martinez, Bob McClure, Joaquin Andujar, Lary Sorensen and others were invited to see if they could make it all the way back to the big leagues. Martinez became the ace of the staff, Pascual Perez was brilliant down the stretch and McClure found a home in the bullpen. The rejects went 27-10 and the Expos won 91 games. PTO’s could be a big damned deal.

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Coffeys_Messy_eh

LT, I realize this is the off season but whatever became of the Oil Can podcast? My feed seems to have ended with the Strudwick episode in early June. For feedback, I would strongly consider limiting DNB’s involvement if it ever does return. I dig his writing but the combination of his vocal fry, meandering sentences, and timid delivery made for some painfully dry podcasting IMO.

Also: “Half a bubble off plumb” is now in my mental phrase bank.

Bling

If the Oilers sign Kahun — and I would, he’s been on my list since UFA started — I think LT might have to bring out the balance photo. If he hasn’t lost it somewhere! That lineup looks great.

Russell has played in a total of 899 NHL games (including playoffs). He just might hit 1000 (knock on wood).

Pretty spectacular achievement for him already. He has already played more games than my all time favourite Oiler, Ales Hemsky (888 for 83).

Lots of really, really good NHLers don’t make it as far as he has.

I like the contract extension, but I also don’t mind having him around as a 6/7 D next year. With all of the surplus right D, fortunately he will not be forced to play on his off side.

Cassandra

Here is a list of 1 or 2 yr contracts for veteran D signed for less than 1.5 M this offseason. I used two years as well, since Russell’s contract is the equivalent of a 2yr contract with the associated risk that entails.

Ceci: 1.25 M
Forbort 1 M
Bogosian: 1 M
LaDue: 700K
Van Riemskdyk: 800 K
Pysyk: 750 K
Sbisa” 800 K
Merrill: 925K
Miller: 700 K
Irwin: 700 K
Johnson: 1.15 M
Benning: 1 M
Schenn: 800 K
Lyubushkin: 1 M

Sure seems like lighting money on fire to me. Perhaps not a lot of money, but it is all so unnecessary. Flexibility has value.

All to fulfill an expansion requirement. That is a pretty weak reason. You are going to lose a player no matter what. If you have a deep team, you are going to lose a good player. This cannot be avoided. It hardly makes sense to spend money or assets to try and avoid losing a good player. The only way to avoid losing a good player is to not have enough good players. That is not much of a plan.

John Chambers

It would be interesting to examine Adam Larsson and Tyson Barrie side-by-side, two players with near-identical cap hits, both right-D, who both broke into the league in 2011, and who you might say live on opposite ends of the defence / offence spectrum, both UFA’s at seasons end.

For Ken Holland and the Oilers, which one would you be more inclined to re-sign for 2021 and beyond?

Also, “moving like a weathervane in a hurricane”. LT is at his finest this morning.

Kinger_Oil.redux

– Of the myraid of reasons for Chias dismissal, Russell’s extra year and extra $750K doesn’t rate IMO

– At best is was symptom, not the casue

– The attempts to appear “fair” about the angst for his signing are off. It was an overpay, but not a crippling one for the organization. What other D could they have got? Sek out as well.

– Most players, given a choice, don’t want to come to Edmonton. That makes it hard: Holland recently alluded to how you have to overpay and over term UFA’s. And on top of it the Edmonton factor, which untill they start contending for Cups, they just aren’t a destination for players

– Barrie coming to get points with McD was a good reson, same for Turris to hopefully score more goals. If the Oilers are good next year, they will likely try to resign both of them.

– Kris Russel was signed the way Kahun could be: If I’m recalling correctly, everyone was hot and bothered when Versteeg was supposed to be an Oiler D, then he went to Calgary. So Russell came in during training camp, with no contract and made his keep, signed for $3.2MM, had a good season, and great playoffs.

– 4 years later Versteeg is retired, and Russel still a useful player

– It is amazing how things turn out: Russell 4 years ago, couldn’t get a long term deal

– P.S.: Slotting in Kahun for $1.5MM and having an additional $2MM ish is how I see it as well, but ad naseum I’m told and shown it can’t be this way. LT are you on purpose trying to stir the pot with me!

John Chambers

Cassandra,

I think Russell retires after the expansion draft.

He’s made ~$30M playing hockey. Next year $1.25M gets clawed back to 900k before tax, and it’s just not as fun to play in the age of the virus.

I wager he did Ken Holland a favour and now we don’t have to give a second year to Madison Bowey.

Harpers Hair

Frank Seravalli (@frank_seravalli) Tweeted:
#NHL players will be paid next week for the first time since April. All players who have a contract for 2020-21 season – and were frozen on roster at the pause – will be paid 8.1% of their ’21 salary by Oct. 31.

Frank Seravalli (@frank_seravalli) Tweeted:
Goes without saying, but this also means that owners are writing these cheques without meaningful revenue incoming since mid-March. Not a pretty cash flow situation for the bulk of #NHL franchises.

GordieHoweHatTrick

With the recent LD developments, I suspect the “Slater Koekkoek” option is more or less off the table…
But WTF knows what will happen before the next season starts. Maybe Chara is wearing pylon orange.
Kahun would be a worthwhile pursuit with the history and limited funds available.

Elgin R

About time you did a Peggy Lee reference LT.

The Oilers are better with Smith, Barrie and Turris than with Markstrom – Thank You Tre!

Kahun has good underlying numbers and has put up decent points 5v5 (approx 0.5 pts/g) with 4th-line minutes (13:50/g). He has improved year-over-year in the NHL and is only 25 years-old. A 1-year ‘show me’ contract would be an good bet and a Holland-type move.

No PTOs required as Forsberg is already cover and one of the young goalies need room to play in the AHL.

geowal

Cassandra:
Here is a list of 1 or 2 yr contracts for veteran D signed for less than 1.5 M this offseason.I used two years as well, since Russell’s contract is the equivalent of a 2yr contract with the associated risk that entails.

Ceci: 1.25 M
Forbort 1 M
Bogosian: 1 M
LaDue: 700K
Van Riemskdyk: 800 K
Pysyk: 750 K
Sbisa” 800 K
Merrill: 925K
Miller: 700 K
Irwin: 700 K
Johnson: 1.15 M
Benning: 1 M
Schenn: 800 K
Lyubushkin: 1 M

Sure seems like lighting money on fire to me. Perhaps not a lot of money, but it is all so unnecessary.Flexibility has value.

All to fulfill an expansion requirement.That is a pretty weak reason.You are going to lose a player no matter what.If you have a deep team, you are going to lose a good player.This cannot be avoided.It hardly makes sense to spend money or assets to try and avoid losing a good player.The only way to avoid losing a good player is to not have enough good players.That is not much of a plan.

While they’ll lose a good player, it’s entirely possible they don’t lose a good defence man. Protect Nurse, Bear and Jones, and expose Klefbom with the assumption Seattle won’t take the risk (if that seems valid at the time). But they’ll still be short a qualified D man to expose, hence Russell. If they signed Lagesson to a two year deal that would work, but only if you can be sure he reaches the games played marker.
They really only had two options: trade Russell and sign someone else to a two year deal (for cheaper as you suggest) or up Russell for one year. They chose the latter.

pts2pndr

Kinger_Oil.redux:
– Of the myraid of reasons for Chias dismissal, Russell’s extra year and extra $750K doesn’t rate IMO

– At best is was symptom, not the casue

– The attempts to appear “fair” about the angst for his signing are off.It was an overpay, but not a crippling one for the organization.What other D could they have got?Sek out as well.

– Most players, given a choice, don’t want to come to Edmonton.That makes it hard: Holland recently alluded to how you have to overpay and over term UFA’s.And on top of it the Edmonton factor, which untill they start contending for Cups, they just aren’t a destination for players

– Barrie coming to get points with McD was a good reson, same for Turris to hopefully score more goals.If the Oilers are good next year, they will likely try to resign both of them.

– Kris Russel was signed the way Kahun could be: If I’m recalling correctly, everyone was hot and bothered when Versteeg was supposed to be an Oiler D, then he went to Calgary.So Russell came in during training camp, with no contract and made his keep, signed for $3.2MM,had a good season, and great playoffs.

– 4 years later Versteeg is retired, and Russel still a useful player

– It is amazing how things turn out: Russell 4 years ago, couldn’t get a long term deal

– P.S.: Slotting in Kahun for $1.5MM and having an additional $2MM ish is how I see it as well, but ad naseum I’m told and shown it can’t be this way.LT are you on purpose trying to stir the pot with me!

I bet that there are a number of players that are thinking very different with the pandemic. I have lived in a couple of the more desirable cities as you would call them. They come with their own warts. The grass always looks greener on the other side of the fence.

defmn

38 goals in the last 3 season’s to Kassian’s 37.

I should probably duck and hide now for mentioning that. 😉

Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
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3h
Brown settles with Ottawa. 3 Year deal. $2.8/$4/$4. AAV is $3.6.

defmn

Harpers Hair:
Frank Seravalli (@frank_seravalli) Tweeted:
#NHL players will be paid next week for the first time since April. All players who have a contract for 2020-21 season – and were frozen on roster at the pause – will be paid 8.1% of their ’21 salary by Oct. 31.

Frank Seravalli (@frank_seravalli) Tweeted:
Goes without saying, but this also means that owners are writing these cheques without meaningful revenue incoming since mid-March. Not a pretty cash flow situation for the bulk of #NHL franchises.

John Shannon
@JShannonhl
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39m
This would be the only payment the players would get before next season starts.

Silver Streak

Cassandra:
Here is a list of 1 or 2 yr contracts for veteran D signed for less than 1.5 M this offseason.I used two years as well, since Russell’s contract is the equivalent of a 2yr contract with the associated risk that entails.

Ceci: 1.25 M
Forbort 1 M
Bogosian: 1 M
LaDue: 700K
Van Riemskdyk: 800 K
Pysyk: 750 K
Sbisa” 800 K
Merrill: 925K
Miller: 700 K
Irwin: 700 K
Johnson: 1.15 M
Benning: 1 M
Schenn: 800 K
Lyubushkin: 1 M

Sure seems like lighting money on fire to me. Perhaps not a lot of money, but it is all so unnecessary.Flexibility has value.

All to fulfill an expansion requirement.That is a pretty weak reason.You are going to lose a player no matter what.If you have a deep team, you are going to lose a good player.This cannot be avoided.It hardly makes sense to spend money or assets to try and avoid losing a good player.The only way to avoid losing a good player is to not have enough good players.That is not much of a plan.

Really ?…Effective expansion planning separates the winners from the also rans. A major consideration in the Lucic deal was he needed to be protected, now this extension will enable us to protect another valued player… Russell and his $125 M extension if not picked up by Seattle can be sent to the Bake….THAT is management.

SwedishPoster

Both Berglund and Broberg’s respective SHL game tonight postponed due to covid cases in Linköping and Skellefteå’s opponent Djurgården. But on the positive side Joakim Nygård is returning for Färjestad tonight which is quicker than anticipated.

godot10

GordieHoweHatTrick:
With the recent LD developments, I suspect the “Slater Koekkoek” option is more or less off the table…
But WTF knows what will happen before the next season starts. Maybe Chara is wearing pylon orange.
Kahun would be a worthwhile pursuit with the history and limited funds available.

Wait for Granlund to pull a Tyson Barrie, and decide to come to Edmonton to play with McDavid for $2 million for one year.

I’ve been playing solitaire teil dawn with a deck of 51.

Redbird62

Has anyone seen anything yet on how the NHL will handle the shortened season(s) in terms of assessing the requirements for games played in the Seattle Expansion draft. Using the numbers in the rules related to defenseman: at least one who has played 40 games in the prior season or 70 in the previous 2 seasons, will the NHL prorate any of these numbers for reduced schedules. If the NHL only plays 60 or 48 games in 20/21, will the minimum by ~30 or ~24 games for one season. And for the 2 season total, will it be 70/164 times total games played instead of just 70?

If there is no proration, Russell will have to play 15 games for him to be used to meet the standard (I assume the play in round games don’t count for this purpose). At the other end of the spectrum, if they do full prorationing and the NHL plays 48 games, then Russell will have already met the minimum. If the season is 60 games, he would have to play just 3 games and 11-12 games if they somehow miraculously get in 82. The fair thing would probably be proration but this is the NHL so who knows. Clearly a 40 game minimum in a 48 game schedule would be harsh, but even 70 out of ~120 games for two seasons is much tougher than 70/164. Maybe the answer is already out there though they probably won’t finalize the approach until the schedule is set for 20/21 and they know the number of games to see the magnitude of the discrepancy. GM’s and coaches would want to know going into the season what the rules are as it could affect lineup decisions particularly later in the season. Prorationing would give more flexibility in removing the Expansion Draft criteria from game day roster decisions.

Elgin R

Silver Streak: Really ?…Effective expansion planning separates the winners from the also rans. A major consideration in the Lucic deal was he needed to be protected, now this extension will enable us to protect another valued player… Russell and his $125 M extension if not picked up by Seattle can be sent to the Bake….THAT is management.

Is Holland betting that Klefbom will miss the entire season? In any case, he is providing cover if Lagesson does not play the required # of games (injury or just does not work out). This is the type of forward-looking management that you expect from a seasoned professional like Holland. How many GMs lost their minds before the VGK draft and gifted McPhee excellent players / picks? Kraken will not take KRusty so plan on losing maybe Kassian or Benson. Both hurt but not as much as losing Jones would. Good work by Holland!

Elgin R

SwedishPoster:
Both Berglund and Broberg’s respective SHL game tonight postponed due to covid cases in Linköping and Skellefteå’s opponent Djurgården. But on the positive side Joakim Nygård is returning for Färjestad tonight which is quicker than anticipated.

Thanks to both you and OP for keeping us up-to-date on the overseas play. Good news on Nygard!

N64

Redbird62:
Has anyone seen anything yet on how the NHL will handle the shortened season(s) in terms of assessing the requirements for games played in the Seattle Expansion draft.Using the numbers in the rules related to defenseman: at least one who has played 40 games in the prior season or 70 in the previous 2 seasons, will the NHL prorate any of these numbers for reduced schedules.If the NHL only plays 60 or 48 games in 20/21, will the minimum by ~30 or ~24 games for one season.And for the 2 season total, will it be 70/164 times total games played instead of just 70?

If there is no proration, Russell will have to play 15 games for him to be used to meet the standard (I assume the play in round games don’t count for this purpose).At the other end of the spectrum, if they do full prorationing and the NHL plays 48 games, then Russell will have already met the minimum.If the season is 60 games, he would have to play just 3 games and 11-12 games if they somehow miraculously get in 82.The fair thing would probably be proration but this is the NHL so who knows.Clearly a 40 game minimum in a 48 game schedule would be harsh, but even 70 out of ~120 games for two seasons is much tougher than 70/164.Maybe the answer is already out there though they probably won’t finalize the approach until the schedule is set for 20/21 and they know the number of games to see the magnitude of the discrepancy.GM’s and coaches would want to know going into the season what the rules are as it could affect lineup decisions particularly later in the season.Prorationing would give more flexibility in removing the Expansion Draft criteria from game day roster decisions.

~ Oh. That one’s on page 5 of Gary’s operations manual: If it hurts the Oil, no pro-rating. ~

commonfan29

The one year deal in isolation is not a huge concern, but the infuriating thing about it is that it demonstrates that Holland wasn’t able to move Russell‘s low cost, high cap hit deal now to clear enough space to make the team better.

I really thought there would be ways to get that done if they got a little creative, and it’s not like they’re out of time.

Hate that they either just gave up on it or were never even trying to do it in the first place.

PennersPancakes

Cassandra,

I dont see any sure fire players on that list Id rather have over Russell save Benning whos sideburns got too long apparently.

Signing a dman to a one year contract DOES NOT change the ability of the Oilers to fulfill their expansion draft requirements. They need to expose AT LEAST 1 defenceman under contract for the 21-22 season who has played 40 games this upcoming season or 70 over the last two (double check could be off on specifics).

Klefbom – protected
Larsson – no contract currently
Bear – protected
Barrie – no contract
Nurse – protected
Jones – unsure
Lagesson – no guarantee on GP

Having a vet meeting the contract and GP requirements allows them to make a decisions on Jones whether to protect him or not without having their hands tied.

Russells contract this year is existing already so the main concern appears to be his extension. 1 year 1.25 million. Buryable amount is min salary plus 375k, so unless the min salary has changed for 2021 because of COVID that is: $750,000 + $375,000 = $1,125,000

That means worst case scenario they bury Russell and eat a 0.125 mill cap hit.

Russell is not my favorite choice but the unnecessary shitting on him and this contract is embarrassing.

Klam

I have been thinking about that next Bear contract. I hope that gets signed here in the next day or two. But I would sign the second contract, the extension ala Kris Russel and what we are trying to do with RNH two days after.

1 Year Bridge deal.

2 days later sign the 7 year 4-6mil contract as an extension.

What is stopping the Oilers from being able to pull that off?

PennersPancakes

commonfan29:
The one year deal in isolation is not a huge concern, but the infuriating thing about it is that it demonstrates that Holland wasn’t able to move Russell‘s low cost, high cap hit deal now to clear enough space to make the team better.

I really thought there would be ways to get that done if they got a little creative, and it’s not like they’re out of time.

Hate that they either just gave up on it or were never even trying to do it in the first place.

Nate Schmidt was traded for a 3rd round pick.
No one will take Tyler Johnson for free.

Yes the low salary is a great feature and is attractive but cap hits still exist. There was always the possibility of a trade but far from a guarantee.

I find it infuriating Holland wasnt able to sign Hoffman for a 1 year 1 mill show me deal. The fact he just gave up on it or wasnt even trying to do it in the first place will keep me up at night.

PennersPancakes

Klam,

Oilers would have to wait until January 1st (or whatever the Covid equivalent is). Extensions can only be signed in the last year of a players contract and if its a 1 year contract it needs to be after Jan 1st.

In the CBA, 50.5(f)(ii)

(ii) A Club that wishes to sign a Player to an “extension” of an existing SPC may do so only in the final year of such SPC.

50.5(f)(iv):

(iv) A Player who is party to a one-year SPC may not enter into an “extension” of such SPC prior to January 1 of the League Year covered by such SPC.

Redbird62

I have read from some that they felt Holland did not need to sign Russell now for 21/22 to garner the expansion draft cover he seeks, because he could just get a free agent defenseman perhaps cheaper next year. Trouble is, the Seattle Expansion draft will occur prior to free agency. So anyone Edmonton wants to put out to qualify for the expansion draft, I believe has to be signed on their roster at the end of the season. So to create that cover now, Holland would have had to sign another defenseman for 2 seasons, (this season and next) versus just extending Russell. A lot will change between now and the expansion draft, but for at most $125,000 in 21/22 cap space, Holland already has more options to determine who he will and won’t protect. He could also still trade Russell now or anytime up to the trade deadline if an alternate option comes available to cover the expansion draft commitment (and possibly improves Edmonton on LD or provides cap space). That is proactive management.

Harpers Hair
Material Elvis

PennersPancakes: Nate Schmidt was traded for a 3rd round pick.
No one will take Tyler Johnson for free.

Yes the low salary is a great feature and is attractive but cap hits still exist. There was always the possibility of a trade but far from a guarantee.

I find it infuriating Holland wasnt able to sign Hoffman for a 1 year 1 mill show me deal. The fact he just gave up on it or wasnt even trying to do it in the first place will keep me up at night.

You find it infuriating that the player won’t sign a deal that is well below market value? Strange. Who are you mad at exactly? The player for not taking a shitty deal or the manger for not being able to convince the player to take a shitty deal. Because he’s going to get more than $1M on a one year deal. He’s the highest scoring winger available……

Kinger_Oil.redux

pts2pndr: I bet that there are a number of players that are thinking very different with the pandemic. I have lived in a couple of the more desirable cities as you would call them. They come with their own warts. The grass always looks greener on the other side of the fence.

– A number of players would agree with this. Most would prefer other destinations. I think we agree.

– Edmonton is a great City. I have many friends who live there and raise families there. Growing up in Yellowknife, getting to go to Edmonton was for me big time.

dustrock

Pronman sure doesn’t like Bouchard

defmn

Material Elvis: You find it infuriating that the player won’t sign a deal that is well below market value?Strange.Who are you mad at exactly?The player for not taking a shitty deal or the manger for not being able to convince the player to take a shitty deal.Because he’s going to get more than $1M on a one year deal.He’s the highest scoring winger available……

Could be wrong but I think you missed the sarcasm. 😉

PennersPancakes

Material Elvis: You find it infuriating that the player won’t sign a deal that is well below market value?Strange.Who are you mad at exactly?The player for not taking a shitty deal or the manger for not being able to convince the player to take a shitty deal.Because he’s going to get more than $1M on a one year deal.He’s the highest scoring winger available……

Sorry thought about adding a /s. Was hoping the take was ridiculous enough to imply that but tone is tough through text, My apologies!

I was being an ass trying to apply the same logic the previous poster was to show its flaws. Implying that Holland hasnt tried to do his job and is currently unsuccessful for a highly difficult/implausible task (trading Russell). Also how some people ignore that trades take two teams to agree and contracts take agreement between the player and the team.

Some people see a contract signed by another team and say why didnt the Oilers offer that? Shit they might have, doesnt mean the player will sign here. Whether its country/weather based or depth/org based theres more variables to a player than pure cash and years.

Cassandra

Why is it obvious that Jones should be protected instead of Puljujarvi?

Why is it obvious that Nurse should be protected instead of Jones? Who has the better contract and hence provides more value per cap dolloar?

Why it is obvious the Oilers won’t add a D during the season?

If you really care about the expansion draft why not sign Koekoek to a 2 yr deal?

The expansion argument is not an argument at all. It is solving a problem that doesn’t exist.

Harpers Hair

dustrock:
Pronman sure doesn’t like Bouchard

He ranks him as a very good NHL player.

Do you think he’s more than that?

digger50

commonfan29:
The one year deal in isolation is not a huge concern, but the infuriating thing about it is that it demonstrates that Holland wasn’t able to move Russell‘s low cost, high cap hit deal now to clear enough space to make the team better.

I really thought there would be ways to get that done if they got a little creative, and it’s not like they’re out of time.

Hate that they either just gave up on it or were never even trying to do it in the first place.

I do not think the Oil tried hard at all to move Russel, they see him differently than this blog.

Mild nature and small stature but fearless and tough as nails. He is a unique character, he’s got his own style. He’s often got the most bags of ice on him after the game but he keeps on going. The players love him. Coaches may not love his total game but love him in the room.

We heard earlier when the OEL talk was happening that management thought they could use more character in the room.

Spartacus

pts2pndr: I bet that there are a number of players that are thinking very different with the pandemic. I have lived in a couple of the more desirable cities as you would call them. They come with their own warts. The grass always looks greener on the other side of the fence.

I’ve often wondered what it’s like living in a big city in the States.

Did you feel nervous all the time?

I grew up in Edmonton and lived a carefree childhood rambling around the city, considering I was playing in the murder capital of Canada.

defmn

Cassandra:
Why is it obvious that Jones should be protected instead of Puljujarvi?

Why is it obvious that Nurse should be protected instead of Jones?Who has the better contract and hence provides more value per cap dolloar?

Why it is obvious the Oilers won’t add a D during the season?

If you really care about the expansion draft why not sign Koekoek to a 2 yr deal?

The expansion argument is not an argument at all.It is solving a problem that doesn’t exist.

I ran businesses most of my adult life. If I had a chance to make sure a problem couldn’t emerge later on I calculated the cost of doing so vs the chance of it spiralling if I did nothing and made a decision.

In the world of professional hockey an insurance premium of $125,000 is peanuts. Not even a full bag of peanuts.

You can call it old school thinking but after you have been in business a certain length of time you have seen everything from ‘improbable’ to ‘couldn’t happen’ to ‘not a fucking chance’ go sideways. It makes you prudent and if the cost is small enough you buy the insurance.

That is what Holland did.

John Chambers

I’ll say this about Corey Pronman – he’s wrong a lot.

defmn

dustrock:
Pronman sure doesn’t like Bouchard

Am I allowed to ask where he ranked him?

defmn

John Chambers:
I’ll say this about Corey Pronman – he’s wrong a lot.

That has always been my impression as well.

Not that it is easy to be right when projecting career trajectories.

Elgin R

Harpers Hair:
Pronman ranks the top 155 prospects under 23.

https://theathletic.com/2132927/2020/10/22/ranking-the-best-nhl-players-under-23-corey-pronmans-top-155/?source=user_shared_article

Pronman is obviously ranking players for a non-contact league, not the NHL. To have Cole Caufield 67 spots higher than Yamamoto is just ridiculous. KY has shown he will hit and grind to get points in the NHL (0.963 ppg last season) when Caufield had 1.00 ppg in the Big-10 last year. Also, Perfetti and Zegras in the top 25? Better bulk up as the NHL is a man’s league.

But, he did set the criteria so that a Leaf could be first. Good on you Pronman – keep MLSE happy.

wolf8888

Material Elvis: You find it infuriating that the player won’t sign a deal that is well below market value?Strange.Who are you mad at exactly?The player for not taking a shitty deal or the manger for not being able to convince the player to take a shitty deal.Because he’s going to get more than $1M on a one year deal.He’s the highest scoring winger available……

I believe that was sarcasm

OriginalPouzar

Niemelainen with a first period assist for Assat.

Both the Skelefteea and Linkoping games postpones to safety reasons.

There have been many KHL, Liiga and Czech games postponed but this is the first time I’ve seen an SHL game postponed….

Cassandra

digger50: I do not think the Oil tried hard at all to move Russel, they see him differently than this blog.

Mild nature and small stature but fearless and tough as nails. He is a unique character, he’s got his own style.He’s often got the most bags of ice on him after the game but he keeps on going. The players love him. Coaches may not love his total game but love him in the room.

We heard earlier when the OEL talk was happening that management thought they could use more character in the room.

This is the correct answer. This also explains the unhappiness. The Oilers like Russell and are going to play him for two more years. That is the problem.

OriginalPouzar

No one complained about Kris Russell per se…….. well, yesterday proved that incorrect – toys were broken!

I agree, the vast majority would have had time for Kris Russel on a more reasonable contract.

Last year he was a good 3rd pairing d-man that struggled when he moved up – he was not worth $4M but was a legit NHL d-man.

The previous few years, Russell played more 2RD than anything else – he was serviceable but batting over his place in the order. He may have been worth close to $4M for part of the first few years of the contract – without him the team would have been worse, end stop. There was noone else to fill the role he played.

The contract was the issue and, for most of the contract, where he was placed in the lineup was the issue with on-ice performance.

At $1.25M for a 7D/3LD – he is value.

Seattle won’t take him but he saves Caleb Jones being potentially exposed out of necessity.

The Oilers may not need him post expansion draft and he can either be traded or buried in the AHL for a nominal cap hit if there are better roster options (dependant on Klef’s health and the development of Broberg and Sammy).

Sierra

Spartacus: I’ve often wondered what it’s like living in a big city in the States.

Did you feel nervous all the time?

No

Wilde

I’ve finished the 2019-20 season version of the thing where I find each team’s “bottom-six” scoring rate.

Two side notes: this is determined by competition via WoodMoneys, not by scoring, and “bottom-six” is not a term that means the same thing for each team – some like Nashville will have it spread out and others like Pittsburgh and Ottawa will have Crosby and Pageau take most elite comp.

Teams generally fall into one of those three categories – a ‘shutdown’ line (often with one specific player or duo whose linemates rotate), a top-six-bottom-six (like us), or a top-nine. The off-time can vary from ~1350 minutes to ~1850 minutes between teams depending mostly on injuries to centres.

This year’s average is 2.18 goals per hour, Oilers third last in the league at 1.46.

If the Oilers had average scoring in the near-exactly 26 hours of 5-on-5 ice time that was played with both McDavid and Nugent-Hopkins off, they would have picked up an extra nineteen goals (rounded up).

I have these back-logged to 2015-16. The worst bottom-six of any team in any of those years (before this one) was yourrr Edmonton Oilers, in 2018-19 – by a good amount, too. They clocked in at 1.27.

This year, a team managed to sink all the way to 1.20! Below the next closest, at 1.41! (Again, Oilers at 1.46).

It’s the Wings. The Detroit Red Wings.

Sorry for the bad vibes post. Grim times.

I’ll be back with another horror show when I’ve put together the quartiles of forward primary point scoring. I want to check Edmonton against Holland’s Detroit – signings by GM rather than players by team.

I guess I should mention that the reason I’m doing this is because I think those nineteen goals are the easiest and cheapest opportunity for improvement there is, and the one that’s already been missed by Holland. Tip of the spear if you want to argue he’s already costed the team window time.

Sierra

Cassandra: This is the correct answer.This also explains the unhappiness.The Oilers like Russell and are going to play him for two more years.That is the problem.

It’s pure speculation that the Oilers are going are going to play Russell for 2 more season. They are going to pay him for 2 more seasons though.

It’s clear he will be playing more this coming season than most hoped for.

PennersPancakes

Cassandra:
Why is it obvious that Jones should be protected instead of Puljujarvi?

Why is it obvious that Nurse should be protected instead of Jones?Who has the better contract and hence provides more value per cap dolloar?

Why it is obvious the Oilers won’t add a D during the season?

If you really care about the expansion draft why not sign Koekoek to a 2 yr deal?

The expansion argument is not an argument at all.It is solving a problem that doesn’t exist.

Cassandra:
Why is it obvious that Jones should be protected instead of Puljujarvi?

Why is it obvious that Nurse should be protected instead of Jones?Who has the better contract and hence provides more value per cap dolloar?

Why it is obvious the Oilers won’t add a D during the season?

If you really care about the expansion draft why not sign Koekoek to a 2 yr deal?

The expansion argument is not an argument at all.It is solving a problem that doesn’t exist.

Its not obvious Jones should be protected over Pulju, Neither is it obvious Nurse should be protected over Jones (Nurses next contract eek).

The expansion draft argument is a valid argument. Just because you say its not doesnt make it so. Having Kris Russell means they have the option to protect Jones Klefbom Nurse Bear. THEY DONT HAVE TO.

Oilers HAVE TO EXPOSE a defenseman under contract for the 2021-2022 season who has played 40 games in the 2020 season or 70 over the 2019 and 2020 season.

Why not Sign Koekkoek?
– Russell is a known commodity to the coach, Koekkoek is an unknown.
– Russell has to play at most 15 games this season (assuming no proating of GP), Koekkoek 28.
– Russell is already signed by the Edmonton Oilers for the 2020 season. Koekkoek would be adding another 3rd pairing defenseman to the roster.

Wilde

OriginalPouzar:

The previous few years, Russell played more 2RD than anything else – he was serviceable but batting over his place in the order. He may have been worth close to $4M for part of the first few years of the contract – without him the team would have been worse, end stop. There was noone else to fill the role he played.

There was no one else to fill the role he played, because he took the cap hit of that prospective player, OP!