This is the 2007 Riesen to Believe, a training camp that delivered rookie campaigns for Sam Gagner (79, 13-36-49), Andrew Cogliano (82, 18-27-45), Tom Gilbert (82, 13-20-33) and Mathieu Roy (13, 0-1-1). Robert Nilsson (71, 10-31-41), Kyle Brodziak (80, 14-17-31), Zack Stortini (66, 3-9-12) and Denis Grebeshkov (71, 3-15-18) all played major roles. As would happen several years later, the kids were alright, but the veteran support couldn’t deliver enough quality to keep cracks from forming. The 2022-23 Riesen to Believe has a distinctly different look.
Jack Campbell, 30. Posted a .935 save percentage in two preseason games. If he starts 50 games, posts a .915 save percentage my bet is Edmonton wins the Pacific. 100 percent.
Stuart Skinner, 23. His .953 save percentage in three games doesn’t include the Abbotsford abomination. Skinner looked calm and confident throughout camp, and didn’t allow a sliver of hope for No. 3 man Calvin Pickard, himself enjoying a strong preseason. 100 percent.
LEFT DEFENSE
Darnell Nurse, 27. Averaged 17:48 in his two games that showed up on NST. Expected goals five-on-five (51.7) and points-per-60 five-on-five (1.68) suggest he’s ready. 100 percent
Brett Kulak, 28. He scored 1.28 points-per-60 at five-on-five and an expected goals at five-on-five of 51.5 in three games. If he’s the right-handed Ceci, that’s a big win. 100 percent.
Philip Broberg, 21. He didn’t score at five-on-five during the preseason but did have a 50 percent expected goal share at five-on-five. He didn’t box out the competition for the job, but is still in the mix. 70 percent
Ryan Murray, 28. He averaged 14:15 a night in three games at five-on-five, playing low event (0-0 goals) and getting a couple of good looks offensively. He’s a nice replacement level player. 70 percent
Dmitri Samorukov, 23. Posted a 63.8 expected goals percentage at five-on-five, 1.11 points-per-60. I’m not sure where the organization has him on the depth chart, and coach Jay Woodcroft said he was “being kept off the ice” and we’ll see what it means. 55 percent
Markus Niemelainen, 24. Big defenseman is a spectacular open-ice hitter but has some coverage gaps. Delivered 1.04 pts-60 and an expected goal percentage of 30.3 percent. 50 percent.
RIGHT DEFENSE
Cody Ceci, 28. He has a 49.7 percent expected goal share five-on-five and 1.58 pts-60. A big season ahead. 100 percent.
Evan Bouchard, 22. 1.29 pts-60 and 57.7 expected goals (five-on-five). Calm, makes the right play and has a real flair for the outlet pass. 100 percent.
Tyson Barrie, 31. He posted 3.11 pts-60 and 59.3 percent goal share at five-on-five in what has been a strong showing in training camp. He has been effective with youngsters playing alongside. 100 percent
Jason Demers, 34. 1.32 pts-60 and 27 percent expected goals five-on-five, his footspeed is a factor but he does many things well. Not sure how this goes but he might be able to help. 10 percent.
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Connor McDavid, 25. Still makes amazing look stupid. 100 percent.
Leon Draisaitl, 26. The big man should be good for 50 goals again in 2022-23. 100 percent.
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, 29. He’s a terrific player, a special teams maniac. 100 percent.
Brad Malone, 33. Woodcroft has confidence in him, cap hit works. 50 percent.
Devin Shore, 28. He had a good camp, 4.29 pts-60 at five-on-five. 30 percent.
James Hamblin, 23. A speed merchant with enough skill to score 21 AHL goals a year ago. 20 percent.
LEFT WING
Evander Kane, 31. He needs to be consistent, play his rugged style and avoid suspensions. 100 percent.
Dylan Holloway, 20. His 5.89 pts-60 at five-on-five reflects his impressive performance in camp. The wrist issue is asked and answered. If a LW does get dealt, Holloway’s performance aided the process. 100 percent.
Ryan McLeod, 22. Speed demon posted 1.16 pts-60 at five-on-five. 100 percent.
Warren Foegele, 26. Scored 3.51 pts-60 at five-on-five, was “kept off the ice” like Samorukov yesterday. Trade? I think it would make sense but it’s very late in the process. He has delivered a good camp. 80 percent.
Mattias Janmark, 29. He’s a solid veteran role player vulnerable to waivers. 80 percent.
RIGHT WING
Zach Hyman, 30. 4.98 pts-60 at five-on-five, he’s effective and disruptive. 100 percent.
Kailer Yamamoto, 23. A quiet camp. 100 percent.
Jesse Puljujarvi, 24. A 1.53 pts-60 and plenty of good forechecking in preseason. 90 percent
Derek Ryan, 35. Veteran vulnerable only due to cap worries. Quiet offensive training camp. 80 percent
POSSIBLE OPENING NIGHT ROSTER
Based on my estimates, and sending out Mattias Janmark, Dmitri Samorukov, Markus Niemelainen, Devin Shore and others, here’s what opening night could look like. $167 to spare.
LOWETIDE AND JAMIESON
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OK. Can’t stands it no more. When did I miss out of “New Sarepta time? I and am sure Y.J. would like to know, to say nothing of the staff of the New Sarepta Tire Girdle and Lumber Co. headquartered there in.
Bison king’s cranium is so comically large, his helmet is perched up top like apu’s hat from Aladdin, he looks like he could be Dan Acroyd’s conehead son
Tarkus
October 7, 2022 10:41 pm
Summarizing!
A score-tastic night for the three CHL prospects in action. Chiasson and Schaefer each scored twice, with the latter earning 2nd star honours. Petrov had a goal and the shootout winner to go along with 6 SOG.
Meanwhile, Munzenberger had (IIRC) his first multi-point NCAA game, assisting on both Vermont goals in their loss. Brind’Amour picked up an assist in Quinnipiac’s win.
Munzenberger had (IIRC) his first multi-point NCAA game, assisting on both Vermont goals in their loss.
I think Munzenberger has already matched his point total from last year (32-0-3-3), by going (I think) 2-0-3-3 to start his sophomore season. I’ll take that as a very good early arrow.
Also, the CHL kids are cooking so far this year. Hope they can keep it up.
OriginalPouzar
October 7, 2022 10:32 pm
Kesselring finishes off a 5-1 win with the common SN EN goal for a 5-1 win – his second point as he has an apple on the opening goal in the first minute. If only he could get points in the 58 minutes in between……
Michael Kesselring (1)
None
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Bourgault and Tulio did play – nothing on the scoresheet.
Rodrigue played the first 31 minutes and stopped 15 of 16 – defence only allowed 7 shots on Fanti in 27 minutes – he stopped them all.
Coe (for SJ) was Petrov’s linemate last year. Good to see Petrov continuing to produce without his older in the picture. HockeyDB lists Petrov at 6’2″, 195 now, FWIW.
Yup, I’ve been saying all off-season that the key is to see if Petrov can continue to produce without Brandon Coe and Russell Mitchell as his line mates… so far a huge arrow up this off-season.
Can’t find a highlight of the second tally, so this description shall have to suffice.
Munny 2.0
October 7, 2022 10:05 pm
Brown doesn’t think Woody will break up the McLeod-Nuge-Foggy trio and that JP will start the season on the 4th line. Likely 11-7 so would still have 29-97 as his Cs. But how much ice time?
So who did Puljujarvi spend minutes with tonight anyway? I know the starting lines, but looking at the stats he was 12-5 in shots while McLeod-Nuge were 5-6. Clearly they spent lots of time apart.
Definitely. And if Murray can handle 2nd pairing comp while throwing Boosh some shade that’s a real bonus.
My only concern is how high was he playing in Collie’s line-up? Thus how well does our D match against theirs, even this year? Even with a healthy Nurse…
Shit. I lied I have another concern.
Really we are short one big physical Dman. Although this could be resolved by switching Ceci and Boosh, but then that’s another defenseman playing up the batting order and can he handle it?
That lack of one big physical Dman is similar to the issue the Avs had on defense last season. Well, till the trade deadline.
Yeah Murray doesn’t compare too favorably to Colorado’s top 4, though their D is their biggest strength.
I think it’s likely the Oilers 2nd/3rd pairs play pretty similar difficulty of minutes, so where exactly the individuals line up may not matter as much.
kgo
October 7, 2022 9:39 pm
I think Ryan is below replacement level at this point. If he wasn’t a RC with faceoff ability he would have been waived
I didn’t watch the game, but I wonder whether you’ve gotten spoiled and forgotten what replacement level actually looks like?
Recall for perspective that Ryan last season outscored both of Draisaitl’s regular wingers from the year before. Granted, Ryan played more games, but still…
OriginalPouzar
October 7, 2022 9:36 pm
Tyson Barrie has been dynamic offensively in the exhibition season.
A snipe for a goal. A bomb for a goal. A beauty pass to McDavid for a tic-tak-toe assist.
I’m kinda hoping Yams misses a week of the season. He won’t, word is he’ll be ready for puck drop on the season, but I’d like to see Jesse get unlocked.
SwedishPoster
October 7, 2022 8:51 pm
Puljujärvi with the “voi vittu helveeti” bomb after the last chance Kane set up. Don’t think I need to translate that…
Very preseasony performance from the Oil overall. Since it’s the last game before the real action starts you’d like to see a bit more focus in the third.
2-1 Seattle (1-0 Seattle in the second)
26-19 Edmonton shots (15-9 Edmonton in the second)
44-33 Edmonton Corsi five-on-five (24-17 Edmonton in the second)
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I liked Evan Bouchard in that period, I’ve liked the Nurse-Ceci pairing, the third pairing Murray-Barrie a little too high event. Kraken are a good hockey club.
I’m not all that impressed by Murray, ok positioning but too passive, loose gaps, no major mistakes but he’s sort of just there looking like he’s playing good defensive hockey but not really contributing. Hope it’s just a preseason thing.
If his gaps are too loose, that would be showing in major mistakes. I’m not seeing what you’re seeing. I’m seeing calm feet and an involved player. His play style has always been on the cerebral side… like a Brodin or Stralman say.
Mayan Oil
October 7, 2022 8:39 pm
Just tuned in after the Rider game (ugh – they blew it again). Impressions on McLeod, Broberg and Holloway anyone?
Less interested in the mitts than the energy, provided it doesn’t come at the expense of everything else that matters. Maltby was the perfect energy guy in that respect. Torres good when on, and not headhunting. Good Moreau was very good. Can’t think of many good examples in Oilers silks after days of The Human Rake. Glencross? Archie but. To an extent Nurse and Kane now. It just hasn’t been a thing.
1-1 tie
11-10 Edmonton shots
21-16 Edmonton Corsi five-on-five
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Extremely slow start for Edmonton, but a nice recovery in the second half of the period. Top two lines 7-2 shots and 5-0 HDSC, bottom two lines 0-8 shots and 0-3 HDSC.
I noticed McDavid, Draisaitl, Hyman, Holloway, Kane in a good way. No defender stood out good or bad, Nurse and Barrie giveaways and Kulak ineffective on the GA.
It would be nice for the McLeod/Nuge combo to actually provide some positive offensive impact – they haven’t really done so all exhibition season and its starting to seem like they are trying to force this duo – of course, sometimes chemistry takes time so I should be more patient.
Olivier Rodrigue leads the home side out. Expected to split the game with Ryan Fanti. Xavier Bourgault, Greg McKegg, and Ty Tullio all getting their first taste of #Condorstown.
rich tm
October 7, 2022 7:43 pm
Nice goal by Barrie. Seattle should have been called for too many men on ice. A 2 on 1 one way, but then they have all 4 back for the counter attack. Pre-season for the refs too.
dessert1111
October 7, 2022 7:23 pm
I think these are the 6 D to play game 1. For the opening day roster, I wonder if they have Broberg on it then send him down the next day and sign Demers at the 7D? If he looks bad after getting a couple games can always waive him.
And for forwards, I wonder if Shore stays on the opening night roster if Janmark gers claimed, and if Janmark passed through, Malone stays on instead of Shore then they’re flipped before game 1 (provided Shore clears)?
No cap room for Shore on the opening night roster. Not even cap room for Hamblin – the only forward for 12F on the current roster is Malone. If they send Broberg down…. then they have room.
Janmark is nice insurance but he pretty much can only get called up if someone more expensive goes on LTIR, Ryan plays his way off the team, or there’s a trade. So I don’t think losing him is the end of the world.
I also think there’s a good chance he gets claimed at his relatively modest (for teams other than Oilers) cap hit for what he brings. The smart money is always that the player clears, but out of all the forwards waived so far this pre season, I’d put Janmark as one of the most likely to be claimed.
I wonder if they go 7D for game 1…. have the vet 3rd pair with Murray and ease Broberg in minutes/situations wise and see if he can get his bearings.
If he needs more AHL time, they can determine after 1, 2, 5, 10, 30 games but there is a decent chance that he’s “NHL ready” in a sheltered role and his best development place is the NHL. Not saying that is the case, it could be though.
At the end of the day, Broberg wasn’t any worse defensively than either Nimeo or Samorukov, in my opinion, and this “poor exhibition” is based mainly with reference to expectations (and I agree with that). Taking away expectations, I don’t think he’s been outplayed by any of the other 3 (Murray, Nimeo, Sammy) – none of the 4 separated themselves from the others by any material distance.
And another on the PP as Vermont gets within one in period 3.
Harpers Hair
October 7, 2022 5:55 pm
Something to watch.
The LAK have 10 NHL quality defensemen on the roster and 6 of them are right handed.
Only 3 of the 10 are waivers exempt but those 3 are not among the lowest ranked of the group so they may have to waive a quality D.
OriginalPouzar
October 7, 2022 5:47 pm
Interesting note from Nugent-Bowman re: Malone and “being told” he’s playing in Bakersfield. If Broberg is indeed assigned after the initial submission, its provides a tiny bit of flexibility (i.e. Shore or Hamblin as opposed to Malone) and Samorukov’s extra $12,500 can be fit in:
Up front, Malone has been told to expect to play in Bakersfield, where he’s the captain. He’s on the opening roster mostly for the Oilers to be cap compliant. Shore, provided he clears waivers, would be the logical recall.
The Oilers would be under the cap by flipping Malone ($762,500) and Broberg ($863,334) for Shore ($850,000) and one of Samorukov ($775,000) or Niemelainen ($762,500).
I do think the may keep Broberg up to start, for at least a few games, and go 11/7. If he’s looking like he could benefit from some more AHL time, boom, make the double switch (Sammy please).
Sure feels like decision is made that Broberg’s going down
Tarkus
October 7, 2022 5:17 pm
Brind’Amour acquires an aPPle on Quinnipiac’s opening goal as he cleanly wins a faceoff right back to his teammate for a one-time blast that opens the scoring:
The risk isn’t zero but it’s not significant that Samorukov will be claimed. I think only two other players have been claimed so far and one was Ottawa claiming a goalie after Talbot got injured. There have been at least a couple of left D in that still quasi-prospect category and low salary that have gotten through.
Cholowski for the Islanders and Juolevi of the Ducks already were waived and cleared. They are both only a year older than Samorukov but both taken in the first round. If they got through, it wouldn’t be surprising if Samorukov clears as well. Fingers crossed though.
Funny thing. After watching perhaps thousands of player media avails over the years, I get a premonition of Draisatl in the coaching/GM ranks after his playing career is over… I wonder if that is where his career will lead him?
Marches to the mic, pauses. Can see nostrils flaring as he slowly surveys the room and stares every single media rep down. Dead silence drops, and holds. Hands on the podium, eyes down, for a moment, as though trying to contain himself.
Eyes up: “Am I pissy?”
Let’s that sink in. Eyes dredge the room a second time, daring anyone to speak.
“Yeah. I’m pissy.”
jp
October 7, 2022 3:00 pm
So it looks like LTs roster above is going to nail the initial submission pretty well.
I’m going to go out on a limb and guess Demers is ultimately kept with the team as 7D, with Niemalainen and Broberg sent down (the latter after being on the opening submission for his bonuses).
If Broberg is ultimately sent down, that would also open up enough cap space for Shore or Hamblin as 4C (instead of Malone).
Looks real good so long as the injury bug stays away.
Louis Levasseur
October 7, 2022 2:41 pm
Is the game in regular tv tonight? I don’t understand how tv scheuling works for pre-season. For example, why did we get the Vancouver tv crew for a game in Edmonton, with all the Canucks focused content?
with the defense more or less set, and thetop 3 lines set the 4th line appears to be
Foegele- x – Ryan
If janmark isnt claimed you are forced to run brad malone in that spot for salary reasons.
If janmark is claimed then you can run 1 of either devin shore or james hamblin, if it was up to me it would be hamblin who has shown very well this camp.
This right here. I’d rather we went full NFL mode with this and limited preseason games to be the same amount for every team. Plus have the preseason end a week or so before the regular season begins. That way you could have the international series start early on a weekend, but not during pre-season, and then everyone else starts midweek.
Heck I’d maybe go even further and say preseason is 5 games over two weeks, it stops, you announce your 23 man roster and then the season starts in 2 weeks from then with the international games the week before. Added bonus is that people who are a little dinged up in preseason (Yamo etc.) have more of a chance to be fully healthy for opening night.
Eight games is ludicrous though is the main thing.
Pre-season is just a money grab. At most there are a couple positions open on the vast majority of teams (unless your team is really bad and then it doesn’t matter anyway). The goal is not to get your real guys injured (unless you need them injured for LTIR purposes)
Nobody is reinventing the wheel like you said it’s a money grab. It’s also a good time for the teir 2 fan to take in a game. It also allows opportunities to play in smaller venues like Abbortsford.
“week to week” solidified the for me. If he’s just on regular IR it really would mess up the cap situation and they’d be stuck with 11 healthy forwards (or 12F and 6D I guess) – that’s without even taking in to account Foegele and Kailer are banged up.
That’s the thing with being so tight to the cap with a short roster – there is NO room for “short term injuries” – a month injury is “better” then a 10 day one.
OK. Can’t stands it no more. When did I miss out of “New Sarepta time? I and am sure Y.J. would like to know, to say nothing of the staff of the New Sarepta Tire Girdle and Lumber Co. headquartered there in.
Go work with Tulsky
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Bison king’s cranium is so comically large, his helmet is perched up top like apu’s hat from Aladdin, he looks like he could be Dan Acroyd’s conehead son
Summarizing!
A score-tastic night for the three CHL prospects in action. Chiasson and Schaefer each scored twice, with the latter earning 2nd star honours. Petrov had a goal and the shootout winner to go along with 6 SOG.
Meanwhile, Munzenberger had (IIRC) his first multi-point NCAA game, assisting on both Vermont goals in their loss. Brind’Amour picked up an assist in Quinnipiac’s win.
Maatta and Mazura were kept off the scoresheet.
I think Munzenberger has already matched his point total from last year (32-0-3-3), by going (I think) 2-0-3-3 to start his sophomore season. I’ll take that as a very good early arrow.
Also, the CHL kids are cooking so far this year. Hope they can keep it up.
Kesselring finishes off a 5-1 win with the common SN EN goal for a 5-1 win – his second point as he has an apple on the opening goal in the first minute. If only he could get points in the 58 minutes in between……
SCORING
Matt Boudens (1)
Michael Kesselring (1)
Brandon Coe (1)
Mitchell Russell (1), Danil Gushchin (1)
Filip Engaras (1)
Alex Peters (1), Yanni Kaldis (1)
Tye Felhaber (1)
Greg McKegg (1), Seth Griffith (1)
Dino Kambeitz (1)
Greg McKegg (2), Seth Griffith (2)
(PP)
Michael Kesselring (1)
None
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Bourgault and Tulio did play – nothing on the scoresheet.
Rodrigue played the first 31 minutes and stopped 15 of 16 – defence only allowed 7 shots on Fanti in 27 minutes – he stopped them all.
Coe (for SJ) was Petrov’s linemate last year. Good to see Petrov continuing to produce without his older in the picture. HockeyDB lists Petrov at 6’2″, 195 now, FWIW.
Yup, I’ve been saying all off-season that the key is to see if Petrov can continue to produce without Brandon Coe and Russell Mitchell as his line mates… so far a huge arrow up this off-season.
Someone named Tye Felhaber is in the org?
Felhaber, McKegg, Griffith… That line must be the designated “Vet line.”
Two! Two goals for Schaefer! Ah ah ah!
Can’t find a highlight of the second tally, so this description shall have to suffice.
Brown doesn’t think Woody will break up the McLeod-Nuge-Foggy trio and that JP will start the season on the 4th line. Likely 11-7 so would still have 29-97 as his Cs. But how much ice time?
Was wondering about that, with all the talk about the 3rd line being ‘locked in’. And they did play together pretty consistently through camp.
Looks like Puljujarvi had a quality game tonight though, fwiw.
So who did Puljujarvi spend minutes with tonight anyway? I know the starting lines, but looking at the stats he was 12-5 in shots while McLeod-Nuge were 5-6. Clearly they spent lots of time apart.
91-97
Murray spent some time with Boosh that period. I wonder if that’s because Manson shares the concerns LT and I mentioned below.
Would also add: Kulak-Barrie have a splendid 34-game back story that could play into that sort of decision.
Definitely. And if Murray can handle 2nd pairing comp while throwing Boosh some shade that’s a real bonus.
My only concern is how high was he playing in Collie’s line-up? Thus how well does our D match against theirs, even this year? Even with a healthy Nurse…
Shit. I lied I have another concern.
Really we are short one big physical Dman. Although this could be resolved by switching Ceci and Boosh, but then that’s another defenseman playing up the batting order and can he handle it?
That lack of one big physical Dman is similar to the issue the Avs had on defense last season. Well, till the trade deadline.
Yeah Murray doesn’t compare too favorably to Colorado’s top 4, though their D is their biggest strength.
I think it’s likely the Oilers 2nd/3rd pairs play pretty similar difficulty of minutes, so where exactly the individuals line up may not matter as much.
I think Ryan is below replacement level at this point. If he wasn’t a RC with faceoff ability he would have been waived
I didn’t watch the game, but I wonder whether you’ve gotten spoiled and forgotten what replacement level actually looks like?
Recall for perspective that Ryan last season outscored both of Draisaitl’s regular wingers from the year before. Granted, Ryan played more games, but still…
Tyson Barrie has been dynamic offensively in the exhibition season.
A snipe for a goal. A bomb for a goal. A beauty pass to McDavid for a tic-tak-toe assist.
Draisaitl with a point-per-minute clip.
Well. That was lovely.
91-97-29 score straight back 20 secs later
“The nine line”.
The three jersey numbers add up to the three numbers not nines in the trio…. 217
Or, the “Nein” line. As in:
“Does the opposition have a hope in hell against them?”
“NEIN!!!”
Not a good penalty, not a good PK
Please leave the impossible backhands to your Centre there Hollywood
Viewing that partial 3 on 2, one would think McDavid will be more appropriately selfish in the regular season
Good on ya PJ! Stick on the ice!
That is the Jesse I like to see more of
Great pass by Pujo. Bob is right Boosh should have shot
. And then Pujo scores on another tic tac toe play
I’m kinda hoping Yams misses a week of the season. He won’t, word is he’ll be ready for puck drop on the season, but I’d like to see Jesse get unlocked.
Puljujärvi with the “voi vittu helveeti” bomb after the last chance Kane set up. Don’t think I need to translate that…
Very preseasony performance from the Oil overall. Since it’s the last game before the real action starts you’d like to see a bit more focus in the third.
After Two:
2-1 Seattle (1-0 Seattle in the second)
26-19 Edmonton shots (15-9 Edmonton in the second)
44-33 Edmonton Corsi five-on-five (24-17 Edmonton in the second)
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I liked Evan Bouchard in that period, I’ve liked the Nurse-Ceci pairing, the third pairing Murray-Barrie a little too high event. Kraken are a good hockey club.
I think Murray has out-played the kids but Barrie is not a great pairing for him, nor vice versa.
I’m not all that impressed by Murray, ok positioning but too passive, loose gaps, no major mistakes but he’s sort of just there looking like he’s playing good defensive hockey but not really contributing. Hope it’s just a preseason thing.
If his gaps are too loose, that would be showing in major mistakes. I’m not seeing what you’re seeing. I’m seeing calm feet and an involved player. His play style has always been on the cerebral side… like a Brodin or Stralman say.
Just tuned in after the Rider game (ugh – they blew it again). Impressions on McLeod, Broberg and Holloway anyone?
Stillman for Dickenson and a 2nd I believe
Yup.
Lazar was taking Dickenson’s lunch money all pre-season.
Oil offerd Lazar a three year deal this summer and he turned it down, likely on the hope of more playing time with Van City
Yep.
Vancouver needed another LD after injury to Travis Dermott.
The Canucks also gain $1 million in cap space in the transaction.
Hence the pick, I imagine
Yes.
Not an important game for anyone dressed, and I’m not generally a gritensity/60 sort, but this lineup legit missing a certain spark. #pagingKirkMaltby
That’s why they brought in a certain PTO but he wasn’t into it. At some point in the near future Holland needs to locate some knuckles.
Less interested in the mitts than the energy, provided it doesn’t come at the expense of everything else that matters. Maltby was the perfect energy guy in that respect. Torres good when on, and not headhunting. Good Moreau was very good. Can’t think of many good examples in Oilers silks after days of The Human Rake. Glencross? Archie but. To an extent Nurse and Kane now. It just hasn’t been a thing.
I’ll take a Kelly Buchberger anyhow Holloway is going to add energy and he also doesn’t seem to be a shrinking violet .
I stand corrected. Jay just needed to say/do things.
pre-season fire drill
Sprong is a gamer out there. For $750k.
Schaefer opens the scoring with a PP marker just over three minutes into the game.
Video evidence of his wicked wrister from the top of the right circle:
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheWHL/status/1578570618005753857
After One:
1-1 tie
11-10 Edmonton shots
21-16 Edmonton Corsi five-on-five
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Extremely slow start for Edmonton, but a nice recovery in the second half of the period. Top two lines 7-2 shots and 5-0 HDSC, bottom two lines 0-8 shots and 0-3 HDSC.
I noticed McDavid, Draisaitl, Hyman, Holloway, Kane in a good way. No defender stood out good or bad, Nurse and Barrie giveaways and Kulak ineffective on the GA.
It would be nice for the McLeod/Nuge combo to actually provide some positive offensive impact – they haven’t really done so all exhibition season and its starting to seem like they are trying to force this duo – of course, sometimes chemistry takes time so I should be more patient.
Agreed – I’d rather see McLeod centre the 4th line
I believe the Condors only have 2 exhibition games (and they are NOT on AHL TV…..):
Ryan Holt
@CondorsHolty
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Olivier Rodrigue leads the home side out. Expected to split the game with Ryan Fanti. Xavier Bourgault, Greg McKegg, and Ty Tullio all getting their first taste of #Condorstown.
Nice goal by Barrie. Seattle should have been called for too many men on ice. A 2 on 1 one way, but then they have all 4 back for the counter attack. Pre-season for the refs too.
I think these are the 6 D to play game 1. For the opening day roster, I wonder if they have Broberg on it then send him down the next day and sign Demers at the 7D? If he looks bad after getting a couple games can always waive him.
And for forwards, I wonder if Shore stays on the opening night roster if Janmark gers claimed, and if Janmark passed through, Malone stays on instead of Shore then they’re flipped before game 1 (provided Shore clears)?
No cap room for Shore on the opening night roster. Not even cap room for Hamblin – the only forward for 12F on the current roster is Malone. If they send Broberg down…. then they have room.
Even if Janmark is claimed? Wouldn’t that free up 125k, which would be enough to keep Shore over Malone?
If Janmark gets claimed then, yes.
While that may happen, I don’t think its the org’s “plan”.
Janmark is nice insurance but he pretty much can only get called up if someone more expensive goes on LTIR, Ryan plays his way off the team, or there’s a trade. So I don’t think losing him is the end of the world.
I also think there’s a good chance he gets claimed at his relatively modest (for teams other than Oilers) cap hit for what he brings. The smart money is always that the player clears, but out of all the forwards waived so far this pre season, I’d put Janmark as one of the most likely to be claimed.
I wonder if they go 7D for game 1…. have the vet 3rd pair with Murray and ease Broberg in minutes/situations wise and see if he can get his bearings.
If he needs more AHL time, they can determine after 1, 2, 5, 10, 30 games but there is a decent chance that he’s “NHL ready” in a sheltered role and his best development place is the NHL. Not saying that is the case, it could be though.
At the end of the day, Broberg wasn’t any worse defensively than either Nimeo or Samorukov, in my opinion, and this “poor exhibition” is based mainly with reference to expectations (and I agree with that). Taking away expectations, I don’t think he’s been outplayed by any of the other 3 (Murray, Nimeo, Sammy) – none of the 4 separated themselves from the others by any material distance.
Exactly what I was thinking
Was that Holloway with the great set-up of Hyman on that rush – made something out of nothign?
It was indeed. Beautiful subtle backhand pass thru a couple sets of legs and sticks right on Hyman’s blade.
Two defensive zone turnovers for McDavid on the first shift.
Perhaps he caves Corsi…..
Just now tuning in, and gotta say much prefer SN Now to the NHL Live app.
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Oilers lineup vs Kraken tonight:
Kane – McDavid – Puljujarvi
Holloway – Draisaitl – Hyman
McLeod – Nugent-Hopkins – Ryan
Malone – Shore – Hamblin
Nurse – Ceci
Kulak – Bouchard
Murray – Barrie
Campbell
What’s not to like about three Ryans on one line? All centers…
The Flyin’ Ryan Brothers… sounds like a trapeze act!
Petrov also finds the back of the net, giving North Bay the lead again in the 2nd.
https://twitter.com/OHLBattalion/status/1578543743270993921?cxt=HHwWgoCqgfnKjugrAAAA
Chiasson scores to get the Wheaties on the board in period 1.
And he tallies again to knot the score in period 2..
Video evidence of goal #2 as he parks himself on the doorstep and deflects a centering pass:
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheWHL/status/1578554469390110720?cxt=HHwWgMDS6aS7k-grAAAA
Munzenberger draws a helper on Vermont’s opening goal.
And another on the PP as Vermont gets within one in period 3.
Something to watch.
The LAK have 10 NHL quality defensemen on the roster and 6 of them are right handed.
Only 3 of the 10 are waivers exempt but those 3 are not among the lowest ranked of the group so they may have to waive a quality D.
Interesting note from Nugent-Bowman re: Malone and “being told” he’s playing in Bakersfield. If Broberg is indeed assigned after the initial submission, its provides a tiny bit of flexibility (i.e. Shore or Hamblin as opposed to Malone) and Samorukov’s extra $12,500 can be fit in:
https://theathletic.com/3669041/2022/10/07/edmonton-oilers-roster-projection-2022/
I do think the may keep Broberg up to start, for at least a few games, and go 11/7. If he’s looking like he could benefit from some more AHL time, boom, make the double switch (Sammy please).
Sure feels like decision is made that Broberg’s going down
Brind’Amour acquires an aPPle on Quinnipiac’s opening goal as he cleanly wins a faceoff right back to his teammate for a one-time blast that opens the scoring:
https://mobile.twitter.com/QU_MIH/status/1578523831152566272?cxt=HHwWgICzlfTDhegrAAAA
I like the lineup. Nice and tight. But, hopefully right after is a trade. We need flexibility or we could be in real trouble at some point.
Dimitri Samourkov is 23 years old. Sure seems like a diamond in the rough compared to the usual older waiver wire fare.
Not sure how an AZ or Seattle would not take a flyer on the kid.
Injuries played a role here for sure….but man, I honestly think this could come
back to bite us.
Granted, I am guilty of falling in love ( save for Benson) with our prospects and losing my objectivity.
How did you feel about losing Marty Marincin?
Given what we were rolling out at D -at that time. Terrible.
( good chunk of our D back then had trouble skating)
To be sure, Marty did project as I thought though.
Also, if Seattle claims Samorukov…doesn’t that mean he’s better than Brogain Rumplestiltskin?
How dare you!
I have reported your comment.
The risk isn’t zero but it’s not significant that Samorukov will be claimed. I think only two other players have been claimed so far and one was Ottawa claiming a goalie after Talbot got injured. There have been at least a couple of left D in that still quasi-prospect category and low salary that have gotten through.
Cholowski for the Islanders and Juolevi of the Ducks already were waived and cleared. They are both only a year older than Samorukov but both taken in the first round. If they got through, it wouldn’t be surprising if Samorukov clears as well. Fingers crossed though.
Vancouver has two D injured.
They may take a flyer.
Never miss an opportunity to attempt to cause the local fan base angst!
Fair.
Seems tight for most teams this year.
Funny thing. After watching perhaps thousands of player media avails over the years, I get a premonition of Draisatl in the coaching/GM ranks after his playing career is over… I wonder if that is where his career will lead him?
Media avail after devastating loss:
Marches to the mic, pauses. Can see nostrils flaring as he slowly surveys the room and stares every single media rep down. Dead silence drops, and holds. Hands on the podium, eyes down, for a moment, as though trying to contain himself.
Eyes up: “Am I pissy?”
Let’s that sink in. Eyes dredge the room a second time, daring anyone to speak.
“Yeah. I’m pissy.”
So it looks like LTs roster above is going to nail the initial submission pretty well.
I’m going to go out on a limb and guess Demers is ultimately kept with the team as 7D, with Niemalainen and Broberg sent down (the latter after being on the opening submission for his bonuses).
If Broberg is ultimately sent down, that would also open up enough cap space for Shore or Hamblin as 4C (instead of Malone).
So my Game 1 lineup guess is:
Kane-McDavid-Yamamoto
Holloway-Draisaitl-Hyman
McLeod-Nuge-Puljujarvi
Foegele-Shore-Ryan
——
Nurse-Ceci
Kulak-Bouchard
Murray-Barrie
(Demers)
—–
Campbell
(Skinner)
Looks real good so long as the injury bug stays away.
Is the game in regular tv tonight? I don’t understand how tv scheuling works for pre-season. For example, why did we get the Vancouver tv crew for a game in Edmonton, with all the Canucks focused content?
At least the game is on ESPN+ in the states. Annoyed at how many games have been blacked out.
Looks like Oilers.com or ched only again
So,
with the defense more or less set, and thetop 3 lines set the 4th line appears to be
Foegele- x – Ryan
If janmark isnt claimed you are forced to run brad malone in that spot for salary reasons.
If janmark is claimed then you can run 1 of either devin shore or james hamblin, if it was up to me it would be hamblin who has shown very well this camp.
If he’s not claimed its locked in as Malone (with Benson going to LTIR) – no cap space for Shore, or even Hamblin who is just a slide over $800K.
Unreal that we’re playing game EIGHT of preseason while the Sharks and Preds have started the regular season.
Dude aren’t they in Europe??? makes sense to start them a couple days early to allow for travel..
Eight games is too much by plenty. You’d think five or six would suffice.
This right here. I’d rather we went full NFL mode with this and limited preseason games to be the same amount for every team. Plus have the preseason end a week or so before the regular season begins. That way you could have the international series start early on a weekend, but not during pre-season, and then everyone else starts midweek.
Heck I’d maybe go even further and say preseason is 5 games over two weeks, it stops, you announce your 23 man roster and then the season starts in 2 weeks from then with the international games the week before. Added bonus is that people who are a little dinged up in preseason (Yamo etc.) have more of a chance to be fully healthy for opening night.
Eight games is ludicrous though is the main thing.
Pre-season is just a money grab. At most there are a couple positions open on the vast majority of teams (unless your team is really bad and then it doesn’t matter anyway). The goal is not to get your real guys injured (unless you need them injured for LTIR purposes)
I kid you not, earlier this week for TBL at Panthers, I could buy seats in the lower bowl, row 23 for $6……… the day of the game!
Nobody is reinventing the wheel like you said it’s a money grab. It’s also a good time for the teir 2 fan to take in a game. It also allows opportunities to play in smaller venues like Abbortsford.
Yeah, they can do lots of good PR things (random cities, cheap/giveaway tickets) during those preseason games without foregoing many actual revenue
Bob finally states straight up that Foegele is “dinged up”.
Also stated Benson likely to go on LTIR at season’s start
“week to week” solidified the for me. If he’s just on regular IR it really would mess up the cap situation and they’d be stuck with 11 healthy forwards (or 12F and 6D I guess) – that’s without even taking in to account Foegele and Kailer are banged up.
That’s the thing with being so tight to the cap with a short roster – there is NO room for “short term injuries” – a month injury is “better” then a 10 day one.
Guys are going to get lots of time to heal up this season.
10 days becoming 2 weeks will be the norm, unless you’re making $3M or more.
Well, that just means a short term injury is re-classified as one that qualifies as LTIR (so maybe Foegele is LTIR bound)
Foegele to LTIR occurred to me, but if that was going to happen they wouldn’t have had to waive Janmark.
Hoping its OK to be this far off topic, but here goes . . .
LET’S GO BLUE JAYS, LET’S GO!!!
Also hoping we get to see Vladdy with one of those iconic moments like the Bautista bat-flip.
I am pumped!
Not looking good so far…..
Well crap