I am about to spend a little time on rookies, and wanted to lay the groundwork this morning. The best rookie crop in Oilers history was 1979-80. We don’t talk about it much because the NHL didn’t recognize players like Wayne Gretzky and Mark Messier because they played in the WHA in 1978-79. Ironic, since the league treated the WHA like a pickup hockey league in every other way. Let’s get to the point. The 1979-80 Oilers rookie crop was the greatest of all time. Here’s a look.
1979-80
Total Rookies of Interest: 14
1979 Draft Notes: No. 21 overall Kevin Lowe was ranked No. 12 among 1959-born draft eligible players. The Oilers had him rated ‘anywhere from No. 10 to No. 13 overall’ on draft day.
Best Player as a Rookie: Wayne Gretzky. He was the best player in the league. Although not technically a rookie, because the NHL decided it one day, the young man from Brantford, Ontario was beyond ridiculous from the start. Bruce McCurdy knew he was the best player who ever lived early on, and the rest of us caught up by the first NHL spring in Edmonton.
Second Best Player as a Rookie: Blair MacDonald. A WHA veteran, this was his first NHL season at 25. He scored 46 goals and 94 points riding shotgun with 99. Not a fast skater, he had a great shot and fell ass over tea kettle into the grandest luck this side of Rob Brown. Like Brown, it would be a mistake to discount the natural talent of MacDonald.
Oldest Rookie: RD Bryon Baltimore was 27, and played his only two NHL games in this season. Another WHA vet, Baltimore hung around the minors for a little while afterward. He was well regarded by his teammates as a tough-as-nails defender and had a wicked sense of humor. Must have been smart, too.
Oldest Rookie Who Played a Lot: MacDonald.
Most Unusual Story: Mark Messier. Not Messier per se, but Punch Imlach about Mark Messier. In his book about his career with Toronto and Buffalo in the 1970s, Imlach wrote about the 1979 draft. He blamed his scouts (Imlach always blamed someone) for taking Laurie Boschman and not Brian Propp (both Brandon Wheat Kings) in the first round, and then threw his scouts under the bus again for sins not even committed in the third round. He wrote that he asked about Messier being available, and was told by scouts that 11 would not be taken in 1979. Only two picks before the Toronto turn, Edmonton called the Moose. That meant Imlach didn’t have a story, but the bugger used it in his book anyway. Lordy.
Another Unusual Story: When the Indianapolis Racers sold Gretzky to Edmonton, part of the money procured was used to sign Mark Messier just three days after the 99 sale.
Yet Another Unusual Story: Kevin Lowe was told the 1979 draft (via telephone) was to start at 10am. He expected a call from Alan Eagleson around 10:15 to tell him which team had selected him in the first round. Lowe waited, and waited, and waited. By 10:45am the phone hadn’t rung and Lowe’s mom said “My God, they’re not drafting him.” A mixup in the phone lines caused a one hour delay, but the Lowe household was not aware of it. At 11:10, Eagleson’s secretary called with the news Edmonton had chosen Lowe—21st overall.
Here’s One: Glen Sather was impressed by Mark Messier as he played AGAINST the Oilers in the 78-79 season (WHA). Edmonton’s Dennis Sobchuk was a pretty good player and legend has it he thought he could take the kid in the Cincinnati Stinger uniform. Messier apparently had a slight edge in punches. 12-0. Sather noticed and picked him 48th overall in the deepest draft in history.
Confusing but true: Many of the kids I count as rookies had some WHA experience. Dave Hunter was acquired by the WHA Oilers and spent some time in their minor league system. When he finally saw Edmonton, Hunter showed he belonged. Here is a passage from a December 1978 edition of The Hockey News: The rookie left winger, an accomplished checker despite his inexperience, moved into a position beside Gretzky and Flett and made sound contributions on almost every shift. It was clear that Hunter’s two weeks in Dallas (CHL) had restored his confidence. In that regard, his first pro goal helped too. “I was beginning to think I’d never score,” he said after beating Mike Liut with a high shot. “The longer you go, the harder it seems to get.”
Longest NHL careers. There were a load of lengthy careers in here. Mark Messier (1756), Wayne Gretzky (1487), Kevin Lowe (1254), Dave Hunter (746), Dave Semenko (575) and Risto Siltanen (562) represent the best one-year congregation of rookie NHL players in the game’s history.
Anything Else? Ron Chipperfield isn’t included, but he was a rookie that year too. He was sent to Quebec for Ron Low at the deadline, during trying circumstances detailed in the Gzowski book.
Hall of Fame Careers: Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier, Kevin Lowe.
In front of the first blush look at rookies, I count Josh Samanski, Viljami Marjala, Connor Clattenburg, Owen Michaels, Quinn Hutson, Eduards Tralmaks, William Nicholl, Damien Carfagna, Tomas Cibulka, Atro Leppanen, Connor Ungar, Samuel Jonsson, Aku Raty and Eemil Vinni as the pool. I’m contemplating one or two more, we’ll see in the days to come.
On the Lowdown today, our guest will be former Oilers defenseman Shawn Belle. We’ll talk about training camps and what young players can gain even if they’re heading to the AHL or back to junior. We’ll also chat Elks, Oilers, NFL, Jays and more. Noon to 2pm, Sports 1440 and You Tube.


Dennis King
Yes, I’m back on social media. Thanks to Eric, Tyler, Chris & Mark and everyone else with the Canes. I learned a lot. Won a ring:) Ultimately, I decided not to renew my contract. Life is year-to-year:) May have media opportunities to announce at a later date
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Ednonton oilers are going to gave a season to remember in a good way. Im feeling very excited about this team. Im not a Bowman or Jackson fan since the broberg and Holliday offer sheets. I just think babcock is going to have success for 2 years and then hes gone and his assistant gets promoted
Given the Sobchuk story, one wonders if Slats envisioned Messier as a potential bodyguard for Gretzky before he blossomed into so much more? Of course, Glen already had Semenko in the fold but adding depth on top of depth was kind of Sather’s thing.
One of my favourite Messier stories was him holding out for a better rookie contract from Slats. Gretzky’s take at the time. “He’d scored one goal the previous year!!!” lol
Clearly the Moose believed in himself from the very beginning.
I think Slats seen immense competitiveness in a power style type kid. With the waiver draft clearly against the incoming WHA teams as well as the draft order. We hit the 649 and Lotto Max in back to back years never mind having Wayne. Sather let the youth play who knows how Anferson-Kurri-Messier Mogg-Fuhr-Coffey-Lowe-Tikkanen end up if we had a coach like K.K who was afraid of his own shadow. We had all year to see if Howard was the answer top 6 instead K.K never gave the kid a chance. With a new Coach what will Mike do maybe he doesn’t want to break in rookies besides Dach who’s clearly a bottom 6er. Levi will obviously get some early starts Howard-Dach-Shakir-Samanski one or two of these players will get faded.
From Pocklington winning Gretzky off Skalbania in a game of backgammon, to Barry Fraser’s run at the draft, to the McDavid lottery win, good luck has been a massive part of the story in Edmonton’s hockey history.
I like to think it’s the good karma we accrue from living on the frozen tundra six months a year.
Wiser hockey minds than mine (the bar is very low) have said (I’m paraphrasing):
-the NHL is not a developmental league;
-an NHL coach, no matter how successful, is only a few losses from being fired, so winning is all that matters;
-we don’t know what we don’t know, but we do know that when owners meddle, things don’t go well.
Also: the higher the expectations, the greater the fall, the more desperate the reactions to the fall.
In arguably the most hockey-mad market in the NHL, my perception is that all of these things are true and amplified. Blaming coaches and goalies is the easiest thing to do, here in Oilerville, where the weather oscillates between feverish belief in McJesus, and panic. Blaming coaches and goalies hasn’t worked as a Cup-winning strategy, so far. But, if it makes you happy…
Or you saying Gavin McKenna isn’t going to learn as he goes or maybe you send him to the minors for a couple years that is if you can take the pressure from the fans and reporters by saying every 5 minutes that the NHL isn’t a developmental league. It all depends what position you’re applying for. Smaller skilled forwards arrive first then skilled centres arrive about the time a Lane Huston super skilled smaller D arrive. Big Lanky forwards arrive later along with big centre’s. Wyatt Johnson was a freak of nature arriving instantly. The goalies in today’s league arrive mid-twenties. If we have to sit here and we don’t have a clue whether Howard at 22 is going to be a Mercer type scoring 20 plus or a dud that BriseBois suckered in Bowman in getting Mr.O’Reilly that could haunt Oiler fans the next 15 years as a centre. If Howard is a dud then Bowman better flip him while he still has value.
I think when it’s said the NHL is not a development league it’s overstated. No, a player that is clearly not ready shouldn’t play in the NHL, but all players continually develop, some faster than others. The cap also says it’s best to use capable (if not perfect) players on ELC’s. The cap also says figure out who they are quickly and sign them early and long if possible
Howard likely would have scored some goals in the top 6 last yea but it was clear that he wasn’t ready to play the minutes and to play that type of comp. Howard needed time to develop in the AHL and the organization provided him that opportunity and he now has the ability to reach his ceiling, something he likely never would have without the development time.
Howard had 2G and 5 points in 29 games.
Colton Dach mangend 2 goals and 4 points in 8 games – FROM THE FOURHT LINE.
This is an old story of my dad’s, so take it with a grain of salt but I’ve always liked it.
So it goes that young Messier was in class one day at high school and a substitute teacher had the gall to ask Mark to open his books and participate. “Fuk you,” he said while flipping said substitute teacher the bird, “I’m going to play hockey.”
Dennis Sobchuk, man could that man ever shoot the puck…his slapper was the bain of many young goalies. Ron Chipperfiield, Dennis Sobchuk and Bobby Hess…three of the best 1970’s western boys to play the game.
Biggest Oilers news of the day likely that Lauren Kyle is posting about being back in the office – presumption here is that the Captain is back in town.
Let’s Go!
Just looking back when we knocked off the Red Wings in six. Babcock had the Wings sizzling entering the Playoffs with a 25W-3L down the stretch. I’ll have to go back but how many times was a loaded Detroit beaten by underdogs. Something about Babcock possession game kick ass in the regular season then cracks in the Playoff. Even the Leaf teams were good regular season team under Babcock. Andersen was a rock then he couldn’t go to to toe with Tuukka Rask and who could fault him for that realistically.
MacT used the same playbook that has beaten the Oilers more or less. And the ‘06 team while lacking high end depth had some potential underrated players like Horc. They played as a team and didn’t let the Wings do what they were used to doing
To be honest no Roloson we would have been lucky to win one game even with a shaky Legace. If you go back and watch every goal the Oilers scored that Playoff it’s crazy how many goals game from Screens and deflection in front. Smyth-Horcoff-Stoll-Torres-Pisani-Moreau etc we’re so good at tipping over 50% of our goals at least were generated with a shot from the Pronger-Bergeron-Spacek-Tardstrom-Smith
Those goals have been sorely lacking from the current repertoire, and are critical when facing a team taking everything easy away
He also introduced trap hockey to Oilerland for the first time ever. They hadn’t deployed it during the season but adopted for the playoffs. Imagine that, a coach changing strategy in the playoffs? Who knew…
We don’t know the structure that Babcock and Smith will be implementing except for the fact that it will be based on pressuring the opposition to get the puck back.
Babcock spoke about studying the league for the last 3 years, what has been working and what hasn’t and them learning his players and implementing fine tuning of systems based on all that information.
I’m not concerned about him relying on something that didn’t want the Cup one season 20 years ago.
Josh Samanski – there is a player here and he’s got 3rd line upside. He can skate and he’s got the smarts and length to be a strong defender. We’ve already seen it. He’s also got skill and will be able to contribute to the offense – I watched him lead the Condors in 5 on 5 scoring at the time of call up.
Play this young man and play him on the PK. He was already effective in the NHL playoffs, he will be impactful after a full season of NHL development.
And cheap, for a long time
Does he not fit in to the possession style of Babcock?
I’m with you. Have been since forever. But you’re pitching him hard. Is MB reading this?
Multiple times a day.
Reminds me of his polishing Tyler Benson’s apples for years.
Joe Snively says hello.
When we get the two-three time a weak list of all the up and coming blue chip prospects from petty much 30 other teams, I always wonder how the likes of Lias Andersson and Tyler Madden and Alex Turcotte are doing.
What a time to be alive watching the greatest show on ice and at many times off the ice in those first 5 years. BJ looked like he was 40 years old and yet he was only 25 when he banged home 46. It’s to bad about the eye injury to Brett Callighen it would have been nice to see him win a Cup.
You know your team is on top of the world when every housewife watches a young Gretzky on the mega popular soap opera young and restless. I believe Wayne was a Mobster brought in from Chicago or some other big city to take care of business. Then there’s the Dave Semenko exhibition bout in Edmonton against the greatest fighter Muhammad Ali. Ali was also the most popular sports figure in the World and right up there with the Pope-Beatles.
Ali. That man was worthy of hero worship. Likely more worthy than either the Pope or the Beatles. The loss of his mind to head injury is tragic.
Re: Expansion to Houston
Enjoy the next couple of seasons of 97 and 29, Oiler fans. In the not-too-distant future the NHL will be 33, then 34, then 36 teams. Stanley Cups will be a once-in-a-lifetime event if you’re lucky, and even making the Conference Finals will be an enormous accomplishment.
The greatest successes of Edmonton Oilers have already happened. It doesn’t mean that the team can’t or won’t still win a Stanley Cup, but 5 in 7 years is a dream of our youth never to be repeated.
One silver lining is the fact that hockey in the Southern U.S. and elsewhere creates incredible employment opportunities for Canadians – players, coaches, writers … it’s how the world soaks up Canadian culture. Learn to play hockey on outdoor rinks in Edmonton, share that rare experience with hockey lovers from Oslo to Oklahoma to Osaka.
Pennants!
Yet another “the sky is falling” post, this time based on a team that hasn’t even been announced yet.
I will enjoy the here and now, hoping for a killer season by the best 1-2 punch in the league. Tomorrow is not promised to anyone, as I am learning to my sorrow much more often as I grow old. Tomorrow can worry about itself.
The sky is not falling.
But enjoy an Oilers’ cup run due to its scarcity.
It’ll be hard to climb the mountain in a 40 team league.
Its hard enough in a 32 team league. Fair point.
Wait until they expand to Europe – its going to happen.
I do think that they will try it, but it is very unlikely to be good and won’t last in the long run. They are so focused on money, but selling sport isn’t the same as selling hard goods, where more market is a legitimate way to increase revenue
They are in the entertainment industry, and are already the most diluted NA pro league, planning for more. They are trying to cut into the Olympics’ business probably
Oddly the last think they seem to want to do is make the current product and delivery better and gain some local fans
Oh how the NHL hated the WHA. I live in Connecticut and see people with Whalers caps, shirts, and toques. Still the best hockey logo ever crafted, but I remain upset about that 11-0 beat-down the Whale put on the Oilers in 1984.
The beat-down wasn’t all bad. The Oilers did win their first cup that year. Maybe it worked to tune them in a bit!
The Nov 2025 beat downs by Dallas and Colorado inspired the best Oilers hockey of last season, the Nov 26-Dec 25 run. McD scored like a demon, played 200 feet, goalies shone! Here’s wishin’ and hopin’ the embarrassment of last season inspires a full season of the same from McD & co.