2019-20 Preseason Game One: Jets at Oilers

If I was forced to choose just one day in the NHL calendar over all others, it might be opening night of any regular season. Tonight is kind of like opening night, and in a way even more satisfying, if only because we can slip out of summer conversation and into a rink for a hockey game. That walk to the rink tonight, the anticipation mixed in with the chill of fall and the shuffling of thousands of feet in unison, signals the return of our beautiful game. The autumn leaves are falling, hockey is back in town. Music!

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, we are celebrating our 2-year anniversary this week. To mark the occasion, you can get 40% off subscriptions until Sept. 19 here.

  • New Lowetide: Preseason 2019-20: The Oilers’ journey to respectability begins
  • Lowetide: Handicapping Oilers prospect progress: The development of Ethan Bear, Caleb Jones and William Lagesson
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Eight key questions for the Oilers to solve at training camp
  • Jonathan Willis: Predicting the winners of the Oilers’ top-six and top-nine forward jobs out of camp
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: In, out or on the bubble: Breaking down positional battles at Oilers camp
  • New Lowetide: Evan Bouchard and the Calder Trophy: The Oilers’ pursuit of the elusive rookie award
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Alex Chiasson prepares to return to scoring form for Edmonton Oilers
  • Jonathan Willis: Kyle Brodziak defied the odds, and then the Oilers, to carve out a significant NHL career
  • Lowetide: Can Mikko Koskinen and Mike Smith stop enough pucks for the Oilers?
  • Lowetide: Shutdown success by Darnell Nurse and Adam Larsson is a key for the Oilers in 2019-20.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Even if he’s unsure about his return, Oilers’ Connor McDavid looks and sounds like his old self
  • Lowetide: RE 19-20: How can the Oilers’ bottom six close the gap in goal differential?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Kailer Yamamoto and Tyler Benson address respective highs and lows as Oilers rookie camp begins
  • Jonathan Willis: Riley Sheahan is a prudent signing by the Oilers in more ways than one
  • Jonathan Willis: Oilers’ defensive hopes will rest on the new shutdown pair of Darnell Nurse and Adam Larsson
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: With Evan Bouchard as the headliner, here are the players to watch at Oilers rookie camp
  • Lowetide: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and the configuration of the Oilers second line
  • Lowetide: Connor McDavid’s 2019-20: Pushing for 50 goals while Dave Tippett loads up the Oilers’ top line
  • Lowetide: Estimating reasonable expectations for the 2019-20 Edmonton Oilers: A difficult journey
  • Jonathan Willis: How much money will Darnell Nurse make on his next NHL contract?
  • Corey Pronman: Oilers No. 9 farm system.
  • Lowetide: Oilers coach Dave Tippett might have to take drastic action in order to find a second outscoring line in 2019-20
  • Lowetide: Oilers top 20 prospects summer 2019.

CERTAIN OILERS (18)

Unless there’s an injury or trade we don’t know about, I believe these men are locks to be on the opening night roster. McDavid, Smith and Russell won’t play this week (likely) and that means opportunity for others. Players I’ll be focusing on from this group: Benning, Larsson, Sheahan, Archibald.

UNCERTAIN OILERS (15)

I think Evan Bouchard has probably served notice but there’s miles to go and both Joel Persson and Ethan Bear have been in the news. One encouraging item: Both Gaetan Haas and Colby Cave got solid reviews from the coach. Center is an area of weakness. Joakim Nygard will be one to watch and it would be nice to have a goalie in this section.

DISTANT BELLS (15/19)

Two juniors, a gifted phenom and one brave soldier off the list as we head toward the first game of the preseason. Coach Tippett has spoken at length about seeing 10 or so guys a lot during these early games, not certain if any of those 10 is on this list. There’s always a surprise of early camp and this year it was Cam Hebig. Love to see a prospect step forward as he has over the last week.

WHO ARE THE 10?

Tippett says there are ’10 players’ he’s keeping an eye on in camp, and that’s a fun list to guess. If we excluded the ‘certain’ list, my guesses are Nygard, Benson, Haas, Cave, Marody, Jones, Lagesson, Bouchard, Persson and Bear. That’s 10.

Still makes me mad. The Oilers followed all the rules, crossed every T and dotted every I. And what did that get them? Jack Hoodley. The NHL is just awful at being fair.

This is a bit of overkill, you all no doubt read it anyway, but I wanted to draw attention to the importance of Bruce McCurdy’s work this time of year. McCurdy brings it 365, but in this specific time he brings a combination of history, sense of the moment and clarity in equal parts. The Oilers may not know this, but Mr. McCurdy excites the masses with his verbal, renews the spirit and sends the locals into conversations about prospects barely known. He’s a gem.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, TSN1260, we slide into a Monday like an old man gets into a Corvette. Murat Ates from The Athletic Winnipeg gets us started with talk of an offseason that still lingers for Jets fans. Jason Gregor pops in with the Oilers side and more at 11, and we add Andy McNamara from TSN4Downs at 11:20 to talk NFL. 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. See you on the radio!

LINES (added)

Sam Gagner—Ryan Nugent-Hopkins—James Neal

Jujhar Khaira—Riley Sheahan—Josh Archibald

Joakim Nygard—Gaetan Haas—Alex Chiasson

Tyler Benson—Colby Cave—Patrick Russell

Oscar Klefbom—Joel Persson

Caleb Jones—Matt Benning

William Lagesson—Evan Bouchard

Stuart Skinner (Dylan Wells)

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  1. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    I will not bet on pre-season games.

    I will not bet on pre-season games.

    I will not bet on pre-season games.

    I will not bet on pre-season games.

    I will not bet on pre-season games.

  2. Lowetide says:

    WG by noon:

    I probably won’t bet on preseason games.

    I probably won’t bet on preseason games.

    I probably won’t bet on preseason games.

    I probably won’t bet on preseason games.

    I probably won’t bet on preseason games.

    I probably won’t bet on preseason games.

  3. tileguy says:

    Prefered you called JP a holdout which is closer to the truth than gifted phenom. Not sure if it is you stirring the pot or me.

  4. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Remember talking ourselves down from building a Ty Rattie statue last pre-season?

    Going to bet on whoever goes 0-7 in the pre-season to win the cup.

  5. Clarkenstein says:

    You’re right about Bruce McCurdy. In fact, the three people whose opinion and stories mean the most to me are Bob McKenzie, Bruce McCurdy and Elliotte Friedman.

  6. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Lowetide:
    WG by noon:

    I probably won’t bet on preseason games.

    I probably won’t bet on preseason games.

    I probably won’t bet on preseason games.

    I probably won’t bet on preseason games.

    I probably won’t bet on preseason games.

    I probably won’t bet on preseason games.

    By 3:00pm

    “Jesus look at their lineup, that’s not reflected in the line!!”

  7. tileguy says:

    Lol, did you just include a picture of the Vancouver riots.?

  8. OriginalPouzar says:

    YES! Real hockey, just exhibition but real hockey is back!

    We know, from Tippett yesterday, that Bouch and Benson are in the lineup.

    Here is hoping that all three of the new Swedes are in the lineup – I really am looking forward to seeing each of them to get a better sense of their games and a better sense of their games on the NHL ice.

    From listening to Tippett and others who were able to watch, all three of them did indeed separate themselves in the “non-NHL tier” of players and, from the light highlights, the two forwards each made some skilled plays. Haas looks/sounds like a real quick and tencious player out there who doesn’t stop working. That has value in the bottom six.

  9. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    tileguy:
    Prefered you called JP a holdout which is closer to the truth than gifted phenom. Not sure if it is you stirring the pot or me.

    You cannot hold out if you are not under contract.

    Holding out is not giving your services when you are under contract to do so.

    You are “withholding” your services despite being obligated under a contract to do so.

    JP is a free agent and is free to sign anywhere in any league.

    Since he is a restricted free agent in the NHL, his NHL rights are restricted to only being able to sign in Edmonton, if he wanted to sign a NHL contract it had to be Edmonton.

    Not signing a contract is not “holding out”. Its refusing to sign a contract.

  10. Andy Dufresne says:

    You gotta love the randomness of sports.

    100’s of hours of speculation; tens of thousands of words written; myriad line combonation recommendations; a microscopic view of every minute detail of training camp. And no one…..and I mean no one picked Cameron Hebig to be the surprise prospect at training camp.

    “There’s always a surprise of early camp and this year it was Cam Hebig.”

    A very smart man once told me the one thing he knew for sure about professional sport; its predictably, unpredictable! 🙂

  11. tileguy says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    Semantics.

  12. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lets not forget Oilers fans, guys like Bouchard, McLeod, etc. are indeed going to excel in these exhibition games, especially the early exhibition games – their plus skills are going to be evident and shine. We should always remember that this will often mask their “deficiencies” and the areas of their games that require more development time.

    Its going to be exiting to watch Bouch put up a PPG in 5-6 exhibition games but, more importantly, what I’m going to look for is if he is starting to cut out those 2-3 mistakes per game that lead to high danger scoring chances against. We KNOW Bouch has NHL ready skills but he also has areas of his game that aren’t there yet – he get walked a few times and lost his angles for HD scoring chances against in the prospects games, let alone NHL games.

    One step at a time.

    Go Bouch!

    Go OIlers!

  13. Andy Dufresne says:

    WG by 4pm::

    I will not bet more than a C note on preseason games.

    I will not bet more than a C note on preseason games.

    I will not bet more than a C note on preseason games.

    I will not bet more than a C note on preseason games.

    I will not bet more than a C note on preseason games.

    I will not bet more than a C note on preseason games.

  14. Cassandra says:

    tileguy:
    Woodguy v2.0,

    Semantics.

    It is not at all semantics. Words have meaning. If you are not intelligent enough to understand the meaning of words then you shouldn’t use them.

  15. norm_klassen says:

    Pre season is like soft core porn; looks great but nowhere near real enough

  16. Andy Dufresne says:

    Cassandra: It is not at all semantics.Words have meaning.If you are not intelligent enough to understand the meaning of words then you shouldn’t use them.

    I concurd with this.

  17. Brantford Boy says:

    Cassandra,

    I says pardon! Are you calling me stupid? I’m actually pretty SMRT, I may watch a lot of TV, but I turned out TV… wanna fight about it? Oh look, sqkuirrel…

  18. McNuge93 says:

    LT, yes, I remember the Gustafson thing. But at least we got to keep our first protected player. And I think we were able to redraft Messier.

    Oh well, it all turned out OK in the end 🙂

  19. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Agreed on McCurdy.

    He is by far the best source for what actually happens on the ice during camp.

    I’ve watched the coach and player scrums on oilers TV and I have to say Rishaug is on his game too and asking some good questions.

  20. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    tileguy:
    Woodguy v2.0,

    Semantics.

    Not really in this case.

    “Holding Out” has a meaning that is automatically negative in relation to who is holding out so its important to not use that term if it’s not correct.

  21. jake70 says:

    Eddie Money, now Okasek…..geez……time keeps on slippin slippin….

  22. Jethro Tull says:

    jake70:
    Eddie Money, now Okasek…..geez……time keeps on slippin slippin….

    Steve Miller’s dead?

  23. Bruce McCurdy says:

    LT: thank you for those kind words, means a lot especially considering the source. Talk about someone who brings it 365, that would be you, my friend.

    I do love hockey in September, always a sense of renewal even as so many recent seasons have morphed into sameoldsameold. It’s hockey’s spring, the blossoms are on the trees & their scent in the air, & that plague of locusts is an old memory not (yet) a future certainty.

  24. hunter1909 says:

    IT’S BACK

    Hunter1909’s Official 2019-20 Death March™

    Entries welcome between now and the first puck drop of the 2019-20 season(October 2)

    Here’s how you play: Guess how many points the Oilers get in the regular season.

    That’s it!

    Tie break: How many regular season goals does JP score for his new Finnish team?

  25. Reja says:

    Clarkenstein:
    You’re right about Bruce McCurdy. In fact, the three people whose opinion and stories mean the most tome are Bob McKenzie, Bruce McCurdy and Elliotte Friedman.

    I’ll take Bruce over Bob and Elliotte any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

  26. jake70 says:

    Jethro Tull: Steve Miller’s dead?

    No…haha….was just using his lyric to show time is flying by…..these artists you knew in your youth are falling off…

  27. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Not really in this case.

    “Holding Out” has a meaning that is automatically negative in relation to who is holding out so its important to not use that term if it’s not correct.

    Yep. JP fulfilled his first contract & hasn’t signed his second. He’s well within his rights.

    In a similar vein, i get annoyed when people refer to an owners’ lockout as a players’ strike. Two very different things, even as the outcome (work stoppage) is the same.

  28. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    – I don’t see any suspense on the 23 man roster (baring injury): Here are the final 5:

    1) Nygard (Holland hire, a lock)
    2) Persson (unless he’s really really bad, they want him bad to be with Klef)
    3) Jurco (Holland hire, a lock)
    4) Haas (Holland hire, a lock unless he’s really really bad)
    5) 23rd player: Cave isn’t Holland’s guy, so maybe that’s the suspense

    – Nygard, Persson, Haas could last 2 weeks in the NHL, or fit in. They are there to “block” the draft and devleop cohort with upside, but the organization would prefer them to get more reps in AHL

    – Those cohorts are players are playing to be amongst the first call-ups: that’s how Holly rolls IMO

    – It’s interesting that 3 players with 0 NHL games are locks (Nygard, Persson, Haas). I get why he did it: older professionals.

  29. JJS says:

    I just realized that both Smith and Neal are in the photo of McDavid being helped off the ice after the PCL injury last season

    I’m not sure what it means but confirms time travel and wormholes exist

    Watch “Dark” for more information

  30. Reja says:

    I’m sure Bengt Gustafsson wonders what if. The man did have some talent and was a rock of steadiness for a decade with the Caps.

  31. judgedrude says:

    McDavid, Drai, Nuge: like we have been saying forever, “Centre is an area of weakness”.

    I don’t mean to troll (although I normally do), but that sentence can’t stand on its own.

  32. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    tileguy:
    Prefered you called JP a holdout which is closer to the truth

    – He’s not playing for the Oilers. But his rights are owned by Edmonton: He cannot play for another team in the NHL on his own volition.

    – Edmonton sent him a qualifying offer. He signed a contract with another team

    – He doesn’t want to play for them, and by all indications the sentiment is mutual.

    – So whether he is a hold-out, or is being “held-out”: he’s not playing for Edmonton, by his choice, and Edmonton is not letting him join another team, by their choice.

  33. Jaxon says:

    I don’t see Archibald as a lock. I put him in the Jurco category. I’d put Nygard and Haas in the same category of Europeans trying to make the opening night roster.

    If you take Archibald out. Then I see 6 players fighting for 2 roster spots.

    AHL Stars: Benson, Marody
    Europeans brought in by Holland: Nygard, Haas
    NHL Fringe players brought in by Holland: Archibald, Jurco

    If Benson makes 2LW, then he will be on the roster. If not, I see Nygard probably making the team.

    Then it is one of Marody or Haas at center (the other in the AHL) and Archibald and Jurco on the outside looking in, or more specifically in the press box most nights.

    I think I’d like to see this:

    Draisaitl – McDavid – Gagner – I like a wily vet like Gagner on this line
    Khaira – Nugent-Hopkins – Neal – history together and verbal from Nuge re: Khaira is promising
    Granlund – Sheahan – Chiasson – some 3rd line skill
    Nygard – Haas – Kassian – speedy 4th line with some skill with PK potential
    Jurco/Archibald – press box

    With Benson and Marody pushing and getting recalled after first injuries.

  34. defmn says:

    Bruce McCurdy:

    In a similar vein, i get annoyed when people refer to an owners’ lockout as a players’ strike. Two very different things, even as the outcome (work stoppage) is the same.

    The person who files the divorce papers isn’t necessarily the one who slept with their spouse’s best friend. 😉

  35. Jethro Tull says:

    jake70: No…haha….was just using his lyric to show time is flying by…..these artists you knew in your youth are falling off…

    Lol, yeah, nothing like the sad passing of someone who you used to be in to to make one feel old.

    The Cars very underrated.

  36. YKOil says:

    This is a bit of overkill, you all no doubt read it anyway, but I wanted to draw attention to the importance of Bruce McCurdy’s work this time of year. McCurdy brings it 365, but in this specific time he brings a combination of history, sense of the moment and clarity in equal parts. The Oilers may not know this, but Mr. McCurdy excites the masses with his verbal, renews the spirit and sends the locals into conversations about prospects barely known. He’s a gem.

    Bruce McCurdy and Jonathan Willis – two of the reasons I stopped blogging. They are entirely innocent btw.

    Simply a matter of noticing:

    – my writing was a mess, working too much and far too tired to be coherent for any piece that required any real thought behind it;
    – the analytics work (*) being done was moving far beyond what I knew, what I could easily do and what I had time to learn;
    – I was really, really tired of the… poor decision making… of the various Oilers management groups and had been beaten down as far as being a fan goes; and
    – all these young whipper-snappers starting to write were SO DAMN GOOD and there were so many of them coming

    It was time to hang it up. My eternal thanks to Bruce, Jonathan et al, for all your hard work and all the incredible reads. You helped make my Oilers fan experience bearable for many a year.

    * I was ‘in’ at the start of the analytics/Oilogosphere blogging movement believe it or not – back when taking a look at the +/- stat in context with TOI was being ‘analytical’ (oh, the days!), anything written by Vic Ferrari and mudcrutch79 was mind blowing, and Behind the Net (Gabe Desjardin) was THE go to site.

  37. Jethro Tull says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Yep. JP fulfilled his first contract & hasn’t signed his second. He’s well within his rights.

    In a similar vein, i get annoyed when people refer to an owners’ lockout as a players’ strike. Two very different things, even as the outcome (work stoppage) is the same.

    Potato, Pobobot.

    (Now there’s an obscure pop reference.)

  38. Andy Dufresne says:

    judgedrude:
    McDavid, Drai, Nuge: like we have been saying forever, “Centre is an area of weakness”.

    I don’t mean to troll (although I normally do), but that sentence can’t stand on its own.

    I think you may be looking at / referencing the wrong chart.

  39. OriginalPouzar says:

    Vets expected to play tonight: Nuge, Neal, Gagner, Chiasson, Khaira, Klefbom, Benning.

  40. godot10 says:

    McNuge93:
    LT, yes, I remember the Gustafson thing. But at least we got to keep our first protected player. And I think we were able to redraft Messier.

    Oh well, it all turned out OK in the end 🙂

    Messier was only drafted once. He was a 17-year old Cincinnatti Stinger in the last season of the WHA. He was competent, but unproductive and not really noticeable in the WHA in his jump from Tier II St. Albert to WHA regular.

  41. godot10 says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Yep. JP fulfilled his first contract & hasn’t signed his second. He’s well within his rights.

    In a similar vein, i get annoyed when people refer to an owners’ lockout as a players’ strike. Two very different things, even as the outcome (work stoppage) is the same.

    The major league baseball players union means that both the owners and players are equally culpable for a lockout.

    When the baseball players walked out near the end of the season and cancelled the World Series, the Montreal Expos World series, they made it impossible for any sports league to start a season that they could not guarantee to finish.

    So technically you are right, but just technically.

  42. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    norm_klassen:
    Pre season is like soft core porn; looks great but nowhere near real enough

    Gets me to about half-mast though.

  43. OriginalPouzar says:

    As per Reid Wilkins:

    Expected F lines:
    Neal-RNH-Gagner
    Khaira-Sheahan-Archibald
    Nygard-Haas-Chiasson
    Benson-Cave-P. Russell

    D:
    Klefbom-Persson
    Jones-Benning
    Lagesson-Bouchard

    G are Wells and Skinner. Not sure who starts.

  44. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    JJS:
    I just realized that both Smith and Neal are in the photo of McDavid being helped off the ice after the PCL injury last season

    I’m not sure what it means but confirms time travel and wormholes exist

    Watch “Dark” for more information

    I imagine since Neal has trained with him in the past, had some genuine concern for him and was trying to get as close as he could to the situation without it being to obvious/spying.

  45. OriginalPouzar says:

    Hopefully Neal is playing the right side on that line (even though Gagner is a right winger).

    Really looking forward to seeing all three Swedes and all the d-pairings.

    Also, have liked the looks of that Khaira/Sheahan/Archibald line so will be good to get a look at them tonight.

    I’m so excited.

  46. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Drai-97-Kass
    XXXX-RNH-Neal
    Benson-Marody-Gagner
    Khaira-Sheahan-Chiasson

  47. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    Jaxon:
    I don’t see Archibald as a lock. I put him in the Jurco category. I’d put Nygard and Haas in the same category of Europeans trying to make the opening night roster.

    If you take Archibald out. Then I see 6 players fighting for 2 roster spots.

    AHL Stars: Benson, Marody
    Europeans brought in by Holland: Nygard, Haas
    NHL Fringe players brought in by Holland: Archibald, Jurco

    If Benson makes 2LW, then he will be on the roster. If not, I see Nygard probably making the team.

    Then it is one of Marody or Haas at center (the other in the AHL) and Archibald and Jurco on the outside looking in, or more specifically in the press box most nights.

    I think I’d like to see this:

    Draisaitl – McDavid – Gagner – I like a wily vet like Gagner on this line
    Khaira – Nugent-Hopkins – Neal – history together and verbal from Nuge re: Khaira is promising
    Granlund – Sheahan – Chiasson – some 3rd line skill
    Nygard – Haas – Kassian – speedy 4th line with some skill with PK potential
    Jurco/Archibald – press box

    With Benson and Marody pushing and getting recalled after first injuries.

    I think this line-up is a decent bet – but will probably see Kass start @ 1RW. It sounded from Tipp that it was “his to lose” at the start of the year.
    Benson or Marody will have to have very stellar pre-seasons to make the team. I could see Marody in over Haas. KH intentionally brought in a number of players to make sure everyone is going for it all the time. 2-3 months in Bakersfield for B and M would not hurt them in the long run…

  48. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    As per Reid Wilkins:

    Expected F lines:
    Neal-RNH-Gagner
    Khaira-Sheahan-Archibald
    Nygard-Haas-Chiasson
    Benson-Cave-P. Russell

    D:
    Klefbom-Persson
    Jones-Benning
    Lagesson-Bouchard

    G are Wells and Skinner. Not sure who starts.

    Thanks for this. Those are rather interesting D-parings. On paper, quite complementary.

    I am totally jacked to watch the 10 fringe over the next 2 weeks.

  49. OriginalPouzar says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Hopefully Neal is playing the right side on that line (even though Gagner is a right winger).

    Really looking forward to seeing all three Swedes and all the d-pairings.

    Also, have liked the looks of that Khaira/Sheahan/Archibald line so will be good to get a look at them tonight.

    I’m so excited.

    and, the wish is granted, Neal on RW and Gagner on LW.

  50. JimmyV1965 says:

    Cassandra: It is not at all semantics.Words have meaning.If you are not intelligent enough to understand the meaning of words then you shouldn’t use them.

    The number of people who use complimentary rather than complementary is astonishing. I really doubt all those people are idiots.

  51. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    RE: Phlegms Cap hell. Nice to see.
    Tkachuk should probably buy Mangiapane a house (or at least a condo) for taking one for the team.

  52. Jordan says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    As per Reid Wilkins:

    Expected F lines:
    Neal-RNH-Gagner
    Khaira-Sheahan-Archibald
    Nygard-Haas-Chiasson
    Benson-Cave-P. Russell

    D:
    Klefbom-Persson
    Jones-Benning
    Lagesson-Bouchard

    G are Wells and Skinner. Not sure who starts.

    Could be our opening night 2nd through 4th lines and our 2nd and 3rd pairings.

    GOilers!

  53. OriginalPouzar says:

    Woodguy:
    Agreed on McCurdy.

    He is by far the best source for what actually happens on the ice during camp.

    I’ve watched the coach and player scrums on oilers TV and I have to say Rishaug is on his game too and asking some good questions.

    He is of the opinion that Russell will end up 2RD when the season starts so, hopefully, he is off his game with respect to how “ready” Persson/Bear/Benning are.

  54. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    Jaxon:

    Draisaitl – McDavid – Gagner – I like a wily vet like Gagner on this line
    Khaira – Nugent-Hopkins – Neal – history together and verbal from Nuge re: Khaira is promising
    Granlund – Sheahan – Chiasson – some 3rd line skill
    Nygard – Haas – Kassian – speedy 4th line with some skill with PK potential
    Jurco/Archibald – press box

    – You might be right. It’s interesting looking at this group. Here are the players you hope by next year are moved from your lineup, and upgraded IMO:

    1) Gagner (he will be a PTO next year elsewhere, not a NHL player, IMO)
    2) Neal (if we can get a top-6 year out of him great, but awful possession, slow)
    3) Granlund (replaced by a draft and development hopefully)
    4) Kassian (replaced by a draft and development hopefully
    5) Nygard (replaced by a draft and development hopefully)
    6) Hass (replaced by a draft and development hopefully)
    7) Sheahan (replaced by a draft and development hopefully)
    8) Jurco: just 1 year placeholder, every team cycles through these guys
    9) Archibald: just 1 year place holder, every team cycles through these guys

    – Lots of work to do. Maybe one of these 9 or 2 are back in a year?

  55. BONE207 says:

    Lowetide:
    WG by noon:

    I probably won’t bet on preseason games.

    I probably won’t bet on preseason games.

    I probably won’t bet on preseason games.

    I probably won’t bet on preseason games.

    I probably won’t bet on preseason games.

    I probably won’t bet on preseason games.

    WG by 1900…

    Jeez…hockey is not as much fun without more skin in the game…

    Jeez…hockey is not as much fun without more skin in the game…

    Jeez…hockey is not as much fun without more skin in the game…

    Jeez…hockey is not as much fun without more skin in the game…

  56. BONE207 says:

    Cassandra: It is not at all semantics.Words have meaning.If you are not intelligent enough to understand the meaning of words then you shouldn’t use them.

    Mid-season form I see…

  57. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    BONE207: WG by 1900…

    Jeez…hockey is not as much fun without more skin in the game…

    Jeez…hockey is not as much fun without more skin in the game…

    Jeez…hockey is not as much fun without more skin in the game…

    Jeez…hockey is not as much fun without more skin in the game…

    I always have skin in the game if EDM is playing.

    I just like to bet edges.

    I don’t bet a lot of games during the year anymore as the books got a lot better at setting lines. There used to be a bunch of value.

    Now when I bet the NHL its mostly season point totals over/under and playoffs.

    Still some edges there imo.

    There are no edges in pre-season hockey lines regardless of the rosters.

    There are no edges in pre-season hockey lines regardless of the rosters.

    There are no edges in pre-season hockey lines regardless of the rosters.

    There are no edges in pre-season hockey lines regardless of the rosters.

  58. BONE207 says:

    judgedrude:
    McDavid, Drai, Nuge: like we have been saying forever, “Centre is an area of weakness”.

    I don’t mean to troll (although I normally do), but that sentence can’t stand on its own.

    I concur…
    While the centre position has been a concern in the past, it’s not as bad as it was. Certainly, we were better with Strome here a year ago. I do however, believe that Leon will be back centering his own line next year. (?) Certainly something to hope for, especially if Yamamoto, Poolparty, Maxsimov or some other draft/traded winger comes along.

    Question then becomes, what happens with Nuge? Would he be a good 3rd center? Is his face-off prowess going to improve & will he be affordable.

    This Disorganization certainly keeps us on our toes. No relaxing, saying: We got this. Always more & more questions. Always auditioning for 6-10 positions. Perhaps management will be stable now. After that, TBA…

  59. OriginalPouzar says:

    From the pre-game presser:

    Tippett has done his research – he knows that Lagesson can move the puck and can be a “two-way guy” as he’s watched the tape of him in Bakersfield.

    He will play some PK tonight.

    ———————————————————

    Skinner and Wells will split the game.

    Its about playing time down in the AHL for those two

    ——————————————————–

    No change in the plan for McDavid. Looks like he’s having fun, hasn’t backed away from any drill or situation.

    ———————————————————

    Nygard is “an interesting player, real determined on the ice”. He was one of the best players yesterday. He’s got a tenacity. He’s got skill. A player to watch for – looks good so far.

    ——————————————————-

    Smith is “on the mend”

    Hope to get him on the ice over the next few days

  60. Pouzar says:

    Jaxon: I don’t see Archibald as a lock. I put him in the Jurco category.

    Interesting. I have as a lock to make the team relative to the other 1 yr wonders on the team.

  61. spiggy says:

    Apologies if this has been asked already I haven’t read all comments yet but is tonights game televised? If so where? Many thanks.

  62. Pouzar says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    As per Reid Wilkins:

    Expected F lines:
    Neal-RNH-Gagner
    Khaira-Sheahan-Archibald
    Nygard-Haas-Chiasson
    Benson-Cave-P. Russell

    D:
    Klefbom-Persson
    Jones-Benning
    Lagesson-Bouchard

    G are Wells and Skinner. Not sure who starts.

    Love the D pairings and Haas/Nygard combo.

  63. BONE207 says:

    Woodguy v2.0: I always have skin in the game if EDM is playing.

    I just like to bet edges.

    I don’t bet a lot of games during the year anymore as the books got a lot better at setting lines.There used to be a bunch of value.

    Now when I bet the NHL its mostly season point totals over/under and playoffs.

    Still some edges there imo.

    There are no edges in pre-season hockey lines regardless of the rosters.

    There are no edges in pre-season hockey lines regardless of the rosters.

    There are no edges in pre-season hockey lines regardless of the rosters.

    There are no edges in pre-season hockey lines regardless of the rosters.

    Hmmm…I would have thought that there are more edges in pre-season due to unexpected results. Like LadiesLoveSmid said above, Ty Rattie could have had a statue last year after pre-season. 0_7 teams are the Stanley Cup finalists. Hell, take the last overall team on Dec 31 as a flyer on the Cup winner. You know nothing John Snow…

  64. Pouzar says:

    JimmyV1965: The number of people who use complimentary rather than complementary is astonishing.I really doubt all those people are idiots.

    Don’t loose yer shit bro.

  65. BONE207 says:

    spiggy:
    Apologies if this has been asked already I haven’t read all comments yet but is tonights game televised? If so where? Many thanks.

    Online on the Oilers website. Although TSn3 is showing it. Not sure if there are blackouts etc.

  66. BONE207 says:

    Pouzar: Don’t loose yer shit bro.

    Easily said for one who has TSA camped out at the bathroom door.

  67. Pouzar says:

    BONE207: Easily said for one who has TSA camped out at the bathroom door.

    Cavity searches are a bitch!

  68. BONE207 says:

    Pouzar: Cavity searches are a bitch!

    Especially when that’s when you loose yer shit. Rubber gloves be damned…it’s the odor.

  69. Pouzar says:

    BONE207: Online on the Oilers website. Although TSn3 is showing it. Not sure if there are blackouts etc.

    On TSN at the Richardson Airport bro.

  70. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    BONE207: Especially when that’s when you loose yer shit. Rubber gloves be damned…it’s the odor.

    More fibre in the diet may help loose stools…

  71. BONE207 says:

    Pouzar: On TSN at the Richardson Airport bro.

    Is that the airport just outside Fargo?

  72. BONE207 says:

    GordieHoweHatTrick: More fibre in the diet may help loose stools…

    Don’t talk shit with me. It’s hockey season. Where the rubber hits the ice…

  73. Woogie63 says:

    Last year/this year

    Neal was on the third line and now projected to be second line.
    Lucic was on the third line and now projected to be fourth line.

    If Neal is a third line NHLer that Oilers roster is trouble.

  74. dustrock says:

    So Benson with Cave and Russell. Is that a slight for Benson’s pre-preseason?

    Not exactly a feature role for a guy you’d want to play with skill.

  75. Darth Tu says:

    LT – what about some love for The Cars soon? Ric Ocasek was a legend.

    In other news – I’m looking forward to tonight. Especially excited about the D-pairs, I realise that pre-season isn’t as much of a true indicator of NHL readiness as I want it to be, but we could learn a bit tonight on how that Klefbom-Persson pairing would do. I’m also hopeful that Lagesson-Bouchard crush it.

  76. defmn says:

    dustrock:
    So Benson with Cave and Russell. Is that a slight for Benson’s pre-preseason?

    Not exactly a feature role for a guy you’d want to play with skill.

    If I am Tippett I want to see the other facets of Benson’s game. I think his skill is already a known quantity.

  77. oilersfan says:

    OP,

    You keep referring to the 3 Swedes. You know Haas is Swiss and played in the Swiss league?

    Also, Dustrock, if Lucic had played on the fourth line last year here and any of the AHL callups had played in his spot, the oilers would have been better off.

    And, Neal playing on the third line in Calgary with Jankowski and Bennett does not fit his abilities. the Flames signed him and didnt know he to use him. He is a complementary player with a good shot. he cant drive a line. he isnt fast enough. He can however work well with playmaking centers. He didnt ever do that in Calgary. In fact their best playmaking forward in Johnny Cocky and they wouldnt play Neal with him so it was doomed to fail. I suspect he has a much better year here playing with some combination of Nuge, Connor and Leon.

  78. Derek says:

    oilersfan,

    Persson, Nygard Lagesson. I was wondering for a bit too.

  79. ArmchairGM says:

    godot10:
    It is truly the start of the Oilers’ hockey season.

    https://www.tsn.ca/lafreniere-leads-loaded-class-in-tsn-hockey-s-pre-season-draft-ranking-1.1364438

    Thanks for that. Man, that top-5 is electric – hope we can land a top pick next spring. Any of the top-5 could jump into the lineup and have an impact immediately. Byfield would be perfect alongside McDavid and Draisaitl next year: best line in hockey hand down.

  80. Munny says:

    Some stories begin with “Once upon a time…”

    Or “A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away…”

    But some others–less fairy tale and more horror in bent–are prefaced with:

    “In an astonishingly bush league decision…”

    Ladies and Gentlemen, The Complete Story of the NHL.

  81. BONE207 says:

    ArmchairGM: Thanks for that. Man, that top-5 is electric – hope we can land a top pick next spring. Any of the top-5 could jump into the lineup and have an impact immediately. Byfield would be perfect alongside McDavid and Draisaitl next year: best line in hockey hand down.

    Damn your Armchair…
    Preseason is yet to start & you already are wishing for a top pick. Unless by lottery, it would be nice to finally progress.

  82. Munny says:

    defmn: If I am Tippett I want to see the other facets of Benson’s game. I think his skill is already a known quantity.

    Agreed. Has to prove he has some two way ability.

  83. pts2pndr says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux:
    – I don’t see any suspense on the 23 man roster (baring injury):Here are the final 5:

    1) Nygard (Holland hire, a lock)
    2) Persson (unless he’s really really bad, they want him bad to be with Klef)
    3) Jurco (Holland hire, a lock)
    4) Haas (Holland hire, a lock unless he’s really really bad)
    5) 23rd player: Cave isn’t Holland’s guy, so maybe that’s the suspense

    – Nygard, Persson, Haas could last 2 weeks in the NHL, or fit in.They are there to “block” the draft and devleop cohort with upside, but the organization would prefer them to get more reps in AHL

    – Those cohorts are players are playing to be amongst the first call-ups: that’s how Holly rolls IMO

    – It’s interesting that 3 players with 0 NHL games are locks (Nygard, Persson, Haas).I get why he did it: older professionals.

    Unfair to call them locks at this stage. I would like to think a thumbs up to the scouting staff for finding these players. Credit where creditis due.

  84. godot10 says:

    BONE207: Damn your Armchair…
    Preseason is yet to start & you already are wishing for a top pick. Unless by lottery, it would be nice to finally progress.

    #DarkHumour

  85. judgedrude says:

    Andy Dufresne: I think you may be looking at / referencing the wrong chart.

    I think the chart above works. It says that our winger depth is so poor the potential unicorn of 3 scoring lines with our quality centres is ruined.

  86. dustrock says:

    Darth Tu:
    LT – what about some love for The Cars soon? Ric Ocasek was a legend.

    Man crazy to think The Cars weren’t big until Ric was in his mid-30s. Always assumed he’d be early 20s from the songs.

    Hooks for days, great keyboard sound, some real cool licks, like the one in Best Friend’s Girl.

    So many classic songs, plus a few great albums he produced as well.

  87. ArmchairGM says:

    BONE207: Damn your Armchair…
    Preseason is yet to start & you already are wishing for a top pick. Unless by lottery, it would be nice to finally progress.

    Hey, I need SOMEthing to look forward to!

  88. Darth Tu says:

    dustrock: Man crazy to think The Cars weren’t big until Ric was in his mid-30s.Always assumed he’d be early 20s from the songs.

    Hooks for days, great keyboard sound, some real cool licks, like the one in Best Friend’s Girl.

    So many classic songs, plus a few great albums he produced as well.

    He was a heck of a producer.

    The Cars had actually went off my radar until a couple of years ago, then a buddy’s band covered Just What I Needed at a show I was at. Put me right back on the Ric train. They really structured songs well, I wish I was 1/100th as good.

  89. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    pts2pndr: Unfair to call them locks at this stage. I would like to think a thumbs up to the scouting staff for finding these players. Credit where creditis due.

    – You don’t think they are locks to start the season with the Oil (baring injury or being really really bad), when you look at the roster. I think its been telegraphed for awhile.

    – Credit is be due should they do something in the NHL.

    – Is Nygard + Persson + Haas > Reider + Gravel + Rattie: hope so

    – They are certainly creative finds.

  90. JJS says:

    JimmyV1965: The number of people who use complimentary rather than complementary is astonishing.I really doubt all those people are idiots.

    Thanks for the complement

  91. pts2pndr says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux: – You don’t think they are locks to start the season with the Oil (baring injury or being really really bad), when you look at the roster.I think its been telegraphed for awhile.

    – Credit is be due should they do something in the NHL.

    – Is Nygard + Persson + Haas > Reider + Gravel + Rattie: hope so

    – They are certainly creative finds.

    While nothing has been proven to this point, I do like the fact that 2 are plus skaters and Persson has shown to have excellent offensive IQ. I do think that Bear or Bouchard will force Persson to the AHL for some games. I am appreciative of the competition for jobs which should help the team move forward. That is why am somewhat sensitive about locks for jobs. If that was the case why go through the exercise. Hope springs eternal or so the saying goes and I am hopeful we are seeing the beginning of a steady climb back to a competitive franchise on a regular basis.

  92. Bruce McCurdy says:

    JimmyV1965: The number of people who use complimentary rather than complementary is astonishing.I really doubt all those people are idiots.

    Complementary line:
    Wayne Gretzky between Esa Tikkanen and Jari Kurri, circa 1986:

    Jari: Nice pass, Wayne!
    Wayne: Great shot, Jari! Way to dig that puck out, Esa!
    Esa: [unintelligible Tikkish]


    Complimentary line:
    Wayne Gretzky between Dave Semenko and Garnet Bailey, 1978:

    Sammy & Ace (in unison): “Nice steal, rush and deke, Wayne!”
    Wayne (blushing): Aww shucks fellas

  93. Little Johnny Frostbite says:

    “Potato, Pobobot.

    (Now there’s an obscure pop reference.)”

    @Jethro Tull: Finally got around to watching Season 10. I’m excited about Archer coming back for another season!

    Archer: Lana…
    Archer: Lana…
    Archer: LANA!!!!

    Lana: WHAT!?

    Archer: Danger Zone….

  94. OriginalPouzar says:

    BONE: Online on the Oilers website. Although TSn3 is showing it. Not sure if there are blackouts etc.

    TSN3 will be outside the Oilers Viewing Region – it will have a real broadcast crew (Jets guys).

    Oilers TV/twitter/YouTube within the Oilers viewing region – I anticipate it will be Jack and Bob’s radio audio.

  95. hunter1909 says:

    Oilers Pre-Season starts tonight. You don’t want to fall asleep for the next three weeks and wake up when it’s too late to play….

    Hunter1909’s Official 2019-20 Death March™

    Entries welcome between now and the first puck drop of the 2019-20 season(October 2)

    Here’s how you play: Guess how many points the Oilers get in the regular season.

    That’s it!

    Tie break: How many goals does JP score for his new Finnish team?

  96. Ryan says:

    JimmyV1965: The number of people who use complimentary rather than complementary is astonishing.I really doubt all those people are idiots.

    No. The number of people here who use “resign” vs “re-sign” is truly astonishing. I’m just trying to make a complementary point. 🙂

  97. Reja says:

    pts2pndr: While nothing has been proven to this point, I do like the fact that 2 are plus skaters and Persson has shown to have excellent offensive IQ. I do think that Bear or Bouchard will force Persson to the AHL for some games. I am appreciative of the competition for jobs which should help the team move forward. That is why am somewhat sensitive about locks for jobs. If that was the case why go through the exercise. Hope springs eternal or so the saying goes and I am hopeful we are seeing the beginning of a steady climb back to a competitive franchise on a regular basis.

    Going to be hard for Holland and Tippet to send Bouchard who I think makes our powerplay a top 5 powerhouse. Couple that with bottom 6 PKers that get ice time and know their role and we’re talking playoffs baby.

  98. Pouzar says:

    Ryan: No. The number of people here who use “resign” vs “re-sign” is truly astonishing. I’m just trying to make a complementary point. 🙂

    Way to many indeed.

  99. OriginalPouzar says:

    oilersfan:
    OP,

    You keep referring to the 3 Swedes. You know Haas is Swiss and played in the Swiss league?

    Also, Dustrock, if Lucic had played on the fourth line last year here and any of the AHL callups had played in his spot, the oilers would have been better off.

    And, Neal playing on the third line in Calgary with Jankowski and Bennett does not fit his abilities. the Flames signed him and didnt know he to use him. He is a complementary player with a good shot. he cant drive a line. he isnt fast enough. He can however work well with playmaking centers. He didnt ever do that in Calgary. In fact their best playmaking forward in Johnny Cocky and they wouldnt play Neal with him so it was doomed to fail. I suspect he has a much better year here playing with some combination of Nuge, Connor and Leon.

    Yes, I did know (do know) that but had a brain issue – thank you for the correction.

    I think Neal did start out in the top 6 for the flames but got off to a “rocky start” including with Peters, got demoted and never made his way back up – partially do to Lindholm’s break out.

    I know I’m probably just “buying the verbal” but I think there is something to say about Neal’s longer off-season, to physically and mentally recover after two straight LONG seasons.

  100. hunter1909 says:

    So I was in this bar and this hot girl came in and I was trying to think of a nice complement to give to her…

  101. Jethro Tull says:

    hunter1909:
    So I was in this bar and this hot girl came in and I was trying to think of a nice complement to give to her…

    Try two’s complement.

  102. OriginalPouzar says:

    Reja: Going to be hard for Holland and Tippet to send Bouchard who I think makes our powerplay a top 5 powerhouse. Couple that with bottom 6 PKers that get ice time and know their role and we’re talking playoffs baby.

    PP was 9th last year so how far of a jump is that and does it make up for the 5 on 5 leaks?

    Of course, here is hoping those “leaks” 2-3 games a game diminish, however, it didn’t seem that way at the prospects tourney, for what that’s worth.

    Go Bouch!

  103. pts2pndr says:

    OriginalPouzar: TSN3 will be outside the Oilers Viewing Region – it will have a real broadcast crew (Jets guys).

    Oilers TV/twitter/YouTube within the Oilers viewing region – I anticipate it will be Jack and Bob’s radio audio.

    Thanks guys. Just checked, Telus TV in the Okanagan has the game scheduled on TSN3 at 6:00 PM. Paciic.

  104. RonnieB says:

    Ryan: No. The number of people here who use “resign” vs “re-sign” is truly astonishing. I’m just trying to make a complementary point. 🙂

    That also irritates me, but my biggest pet peeve is people (particularly news announcers) who indiscriminately equate fired and laid-off. To me one means being terminated for cause while the other means losing jobs due to declining economic conditions or employer cost-cutting measures.

  105. pts2pndr says:

    Pouzar: Way to many indeed.

    I blame auto correct.😇

  106. flea says:

    Interested to see what the Oilers are going to use for entrance/goal songs this year.

    I’ve always thought Relentless by Arkells would make a stellar entrance song.

    https://open.spotify.com/track/4cgZEMKdekAOLjSvTafZrr

  107. pts2pndr says:

    Reja: Going to be hard for Holland and Tippet to send Bouchard who I think makes our powerplay a top 5 powerhouse. Couple that with bottom 6 PKers that get ice time and know their role and we’re talking playoffs baby.

    I like the idea of a coach and GM on the same page. It also helps to have a coach that builds the team around the players he is given and puts them in roles and situations that they can succeed in. We just have to keep the faith.

  108. pts2pndr says:

    Pouzar: Way to many indeed.

    Not to be picky but shouldn’t that be way too many. Auto correct is the culprit, I mean seriously think about it.😉

  109. rickithebear says:

    Jaxon:

    You Think a 1.0M
    #51 RW 12 evg in 45.98% Off FO ZS;
    Top 20 pkga/60 fwd
    Is not a lock?

    Ouch!

  110. Darth Tu says:

    Woodguy v2.0: I always have skin in the game if EDM is playing.

    I just like to bet edges.

    I don’t bet a lot of games during the year anymore as the books got a lot better at setting lines.There used to be a bunch of value.

    Now when I bet the NHL its mostly season point totals over/under and playoffs.

    Still some edges there imo.

    There are no edges in pre-season hockey lines regardless of the rosters.

    There are no edges in pre-season hockey lines regardless of the rosters.

    There are no edges in pre-season hockey lines regardless of the rosters.

    There are no edges in pre-season hockey lines regardless of the rosters.

    That Jets lineup is looking ripe for the taking. Bet hard on the Oil winning by +3 or 4.

    PRESEASON!

  111. BustedSoulO says:

    Cassandra: It is not at all semantics.Words have meaning.If you are not intelligent enough to understand the meaning of words then you shouldn’t use them.

    1st post I’ve seen from you since April… Aaaaannndd – it’s mean.

    Seriously!???!

    SMH

  112. Reja says:

    OriginalPouzar: PP was 9th last year so how far of a jump is that and does it make up for the 5 on 5 leaks?

    Of course, here is hoping those “leaks” 2-3 games a game diminish, however, it didn’t seem that way at the prospects tourney, for what that’s worth.

    Go Bouch!

    When’s the last time a top 5 PP and top 12 PK not make the playoffs. Also you will see more calls on Mcdavid and Leon which will open up more room ice as teams will be fearing our lethal PP. I can’t wait to see Larry Murphy I mean Evan Bouchard patrolling the blue line with those accurate seeing eye shots from the point.

  113. Reja says:

    Reja: When’s the last time a top 5 PP and top 12 PK not make the playoffs. Also you will see more calls on Mcdavid and Leonwhich will open up more room ice as teams will be fearing our lethal PP. I can’t waitto see LarryMurphy I mean Evan Bouchard patrolling the blue line with those accurate seeing eye shots from the point.

    I’m going full bullish on Evan today what’s the odds in Vegas that he registers 20 goals and is top 3 in the rookie voting.

  114. Cahoon says:

    RonnieB,

    There is a distinction between fired without cause and laid off. Fired without cause requires the company to pay severance and they are not obligated to give you your job back should situations get better.

  115. Harpers Hair says:

    Pouzar: Way to many indeed.

    Your just bias.

  116. Pouzar says:

    Harpers Hair: Your just bias.

    No…there idiots!

  117. jp says:

    Woogie63:
    Last year/this year

    Neal was on the third line and now projected to be second line.
    Lucic was on the third line and now projected to be fourth line.

    If Neal is a third line NHLer that Oilers roster is trouble.

    No need to worry, he’ll be in the top 6 😉

  118. Zelepukin says:

    Reja: I’m going full bullish on Evan today what’s the odds in Vegas that he registers 20 goals and is top 3 in the rookie voting.

    Just like when Schultz lead the AHL in points and we convinced ourselves he was the second coming of Coffey.

    The #becauseOilers in me has Evan not even making the squad.

  119. Georgexs says:

    Haas (27) and Nygard (26) will be in the 25+ age category if they make their debut with the Oilers this season. Since 00-01, around 45% of forwards in this category end up playing just a single season in the NHL, compared to around 15% for forwards who debut before their 25th year. The 25+ group seems to represent the triumph of hope over experience.

    Holland, however, has some experience to back up hope. When he was GM’ing DET, he drafted a 24-year-old Swede who wasn’t scoring much at all in the SEL. The big fella would debut in his 26th year, play 80 games, put up 16 points, and then go on to play 11 more seasons for DET. He became the highest scorer of the 25+ 00-01 and after group, 602 GP, 370 Pts.

    Curiously, the Oilers drafted the second highest scorer in this category, a Czech. He never played with the team. He made his NHL debut much later, in his draft+8, with an expansion team that was looking for offense. 543 GP, 317 Pts. All with his original club.

    The Oilers did have a win in this category later on with Fernando Pisani. Debuted in his 26th year. 462 GP, 169 Pts. One top shelf SH OT goal.

    More recent successes (such as they are) include:

    Player, Age in Debut Year

    Carl Soderberg, 27
    Matt Read, 25
    Leo Komarov, 25
    Michael Raffl, 25
    Jori Lehtera, 27
    Derek Ryan, 29

    Haas’s goals on YouTube are nice shooter type goals. It would be nice if he had more. Not sure it matters. I found less on Nygard.

  120. Reja says:

    Zelepukin: Just like when Schultz lead the AHL in points and we convinced ourselves he was the second coming of Coffey.

    The #becauseOilers in me has Evan not even making the squad.

    Bouchard is a better puck handler under pressure on the PP and Schultz couldn’t get his muffin shot through the traffic of NHL PKers where as Bouchard has some real time zip on his shot as well as being uniquely accurate and like I mentioned earlier he straddles the line like Larry Murphy. We shall see but I have Bouchard on opening day line-up and never looking back.

  121. stevebergeron97 says:

    Swedish article from Rasmus Kagstrom on Brobergs debut yesterday translated to English.

    Wow, wow, wow.

    Most people already knew that Philip Broberg was a special player, but the 18-year-old’s play in the premiere really made a strong impression on me. His calm with the puck, the willingness to carry the puck up the track and his obvious calm on the blue line in powerplay gave the impression that it was an honored SHL veteran who stoked his type fourteenth SHL premiere, rather than someone who made his very first SHL- career match.

    Broberg certainly left the premiere pointless, but had it not been for lack of efficiency in Skellefteå’s attack game, the Örebrofostrade hill could easily have received both one or two passing points in his account.

    He was also close to deciding the match with a really elegant solo performance, when in the final stage of the third period, at the score 4-4, he spun up the Oskarshamns defense before he could then outwit Fredrik Pettersson Wentzel in the visitors’ goal.

    No, Broberg will definitely be an exciting player to follow this season. Just a little shame for the Swedish hockey supporters that his victory in SHL will be one year – for next season he will play in the NHL with Edmonton, so be sure

  122. OriginalPouzar says:

    Reja: When’s the last time a top 5 PP and top 12 PK not make the playoffs. Also you will see more calls on Mcdavid and Leonwhich will open up more room ice as teams will be fearing our lethal PP. I can’t waitto see LarryMurphy I mean Evan Bouchard patrolling the blue line with those accurate seeing eye shots from the point.

    I can’t wait for that either but it makes sense to do just that, wait, until he is able to night make 2-3 mistakes per night that lead to HDSCs – he hasn’t shown that ability yet.

  123. ArmchairGM says:

    Zelepukin: Just like when Schultz lead the AHL in points and we convinced ourselves he was the second coming of Coffey.

    The #becauseOilers in me has Evan not even making the squad.

    Coffey? No, that’s Broberg.

    And so it goes…

  124. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    BONE207: Hmmm…I would have thought that there are more edges in pre-season due to unexpected results. Like LadiesLoveSmid said above, Ty Rattie could have had a statue last year after pre-season. 0_7 teams are the Stanley Cup finalists. Hell, take the last overall team on Dec 31 as a flyer on the Cup winner. You know nothing John Snow…

    Yes.

    It’s the unexpected results that make it so dangerous.

  125. RonnieB says:

    Cahoon:
    RonnieB,

    There is a distinction between fired without cause and laid off. Fired without cause requires the company to pay severance and they are not obligated to give you your job back should situations get better.

    OK. So there are two types of being fired (thanks for the clarity) but neither of them is the same as being laid off, which was the point of my post.

  126. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    ArmchairGM: Thanks for that. Man, that top-5 is electric – hope we can land a top pick next spring. Any of the top-5 could jump into the lineup and have an impact immediately. Byfield would be perfect alongside McDavid and Draisaitl next year: best line in hockey hand down.

    It’s not just the top 5.

    The 2020 draft is being compared to 2003 and 2015.

    The second best player behind McDavid may have been picked 15th in that draft and it’s high quality down well into the 2nd round.

    Aho went 35th and that was around his prediction.

    Here’s the first 40 picks.

    Connor McDavid
    Jack Eichel
    Dylan Strome
    Mitch Marner
    Noah Hanifin
    Pavel Zacha
    Ivan Provorov
    Zach Werenski
    Timo Meier
    Mikko Rantanen
    Lawson Crouse
    Denis Gurianov
    Jakub Zboril
    Jake DeBrusk
    Zachary Senyshyn
    Mathew Barzal
    Kyle Connor
    Thomas Chabot
    Evgeny Svechnikov
    Joel Eriksson Ek
    Colin White
    Ilya Samsonov
    Brock Boeser
    Travis Konecny
    Jack Roslovic
    Noah Juulsen
    Jacob Larsson
    Anthony Beauvillier
    Gabriel Carlsson
    Nick Merkley
    Jeremy Roy
    Christian Fischer
    Mitchell Stephens
    Travis Dermott
    Sebastian Aho
    Gabriel Gagne
    Brandon Carlo
    Paul Bittner
    A.J. Greer
    Nicolas Meloche

    There’s deep and there’s deeeeeeeeeeep.

  127. OriginalPouzar says:

    FYI, at least on Shaw here in Calgary, it seems the PPV channels showing the games are free and the Oilers/Jets is on channel 352. I’m sure its the TSN feed so not sure if it will be blacked out in the Oilers viewing region.

    I should be able to watch on my GameCenter account as well.

    There is always the Oiler online feed but its better to have the TSN feed.

  128. McNuge93 says:

    Woodguy v2.0: It’s not just the top 5.

    The 2020 draft is being compared to 2003 and 2015.

    The second best player behind McDavid may have been picked 15th in that draft and it’s high quality down well into the 2nd round.

    Aho went 35th and that was around his prediction.

    Here’s the first 40 picks.

    Connor McDavid
    Jack Eichel
    Dylan Strome
    Mitch Marner
    Noah Hanifin
    Pavel Zacha
    Ivan Provorov
    Zach Werenski
    Timo Meier
    Mikko Rantanen
    Lawson Crouse
    Denis Gurianov
    Jakub Zboril
    Jake DeBrusk
    Zachary Senyshyn
    Mathew Barzal
    Kyle Connor
    Thomas Chabot
    Evgeny Svechnikov
    Joel Eriksson Ek
    Colin White
    Ilya Samsonov
    Brock Boeser
    Travis Konecny
    Jack Roslovic
    Noah Juulsen
    Jacob Larsson
    Anthony Beauvillier
    Gabriel Carlsson
    Nick Merkley
    Jeremy Roy
    Christian Fischer
    Mitchell Stephens
    Travis Dermott
    Sebastian Aho
    Gabriel Gagne
    Brandon Carlo
    Paul Bittner
    A.J. Greer
    Nicolas Meloche

    There’s deep and there’s deeeeeeeeeeep.

    Does anyone remember who we were talking about drafting in 2015 before we won the lottery. I remember a lot of love for Crouse as he was supposedly NHL ready. That would have been a so Oiler pick. I don’t remember us talking about Marner much. It was assumed Eichel was 2nd so we wouldn’t have had a chance at him. I think we talked about Strome as well quite a bit.

  129. Lowetide says:

    McNuge93: Does anyone remember who we were talking about drafting in 2015 before we won the lottery. I remember a lot of love for Crouse as he was supposedly NHL ready. That would have been a so Oiler pick. I don’t remember us talking about Marner much. It was assumed Eichel was 2nd so we wouldn’t have had a chance at him. I think we talked about Strome as well quite a bit.

    I had him No. 18, he went No. 11

    https://lowetide.ca/2015/06/26/here-comes-the-sun-2/

  130. Pescador says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    Haven’t heard much about Dennis Gurianov

  131. RonnieB says:

    McNuge93,

    I don’t remember it being Marner or Crouse. Maybe Hanifin ?

  132. Jaxon says:

    rickithebear:
    Jaxon:

    You Think a 1.0M
    #51 RW 12 evg in 45.98% Off FO ZS;
    Top 20 pkga/60 fwd
    Is not a lock?

    Ouch!

    12 evg, or 9 5v5 goals. But also, he is going into his 27 year old season and last year was the first time he was an almost full time player. He missed 7 games for injuries, personal matters and suspensions. Played in 68 games and was healthy scratched for 7 games, on an Arizona team that wasn’t much better than Edmonton. He has already peaked and he still hasn’t made a team for an entire season. The previous season he was in the minors or healthy scratched for 40 games as a 25 year old, so, no, I don’t think he’s a lock to be on the opening night roster or a full-time Oiler this season. Is that me being an optimist or a pessimist? I don’t know, ou tell me.

  133. Pescador says:

    BustedSoulO: 1st post I’ve seen from you since April… Aaaaannndd – it’s mean.

    Seriously!???!

    SMH

    No no no,
    Cassandra has been a royal grump all summer.
    Negative spin is at the very least a weekly offering.
    Harper’s bad wig vs. Batman’s ridiculous alter ego
    Super Pre-season Detracktor Pull Extravaganza

  134. JimmyV1965 says:

    hunter1909:
    So I was in this bar and this hot girl came in and I was trying to think of a nice complement to give to her…

    Another hottie I guess. LOL

  135. OriginalPouzar says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    FYI, at least on Shaw here in Calgary, it seems the PPV channels showing the games are free and the Oilers/Jets is on channel 352.I’m sure its the TSN feed so not sure if it will be blacked out in the Oilers viewing region.

    I should be able to watch on my GameCenter account as well.

    There is always the Oiler online feed but its better to have the TSN feed.

    Nope, blacked out.

    I got the TSN feed on GameCenter at least.

  136. JimmyV1965 says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    I will not bet on pre-season games.

    I will not bet on pre-season games.

    I will not bet on pre-season games.

    I will not bet on pre-season games.

    I will not bet on pre-season games.

    Couple questions because I know nothing about gambling. Can you actually bet on a pre-season game? That’s bizarre to me. And wouldn’t the home team be heavy favourites because they tend to okay more vets?

  137. Jaxon says:

    Woohoo. Here we go

  138. yeraslob says:

    Game on!

  139. OriginalPouzar says:

    I’m going to re-post this which may be helpful:

    Camp Roster – this should be helpful for numbers as well:

    # GOALTENDERS

    19 Mikko Koskinen

    32 Olivier Rodrigue

    50 Stuart Skinner

    41 Mike Smith

    40 Shane Starrett

    30 Dylan Wells

    # DEFENCEMEN

    74 Ethan Bear

    83 Matt Benning

    75 Evan Bouchard

    90 Logan Day

    82 Caleb Jones

    77 Oscar Klefbom

    88 Jake Kulevich

    84 William Lagesson

    6 Adam Larsson

    47 Keegan Lowe

    26 Brandon Manning

    25 Darnell Nurse

    36 Joel Persson

    4 Kris Russell

    78 Dmitri Samorukov

    # FORWARDS

    15 Josh Archibald

    49 Tyler Benson

    28 Kyle Brodziak

    12 Colby Cave

    39 Alex Chiasson RW

    43 Josh Currie

    29 Leon Draisaitl

    55 Luke Esposito

    362

    2260

    89 Sam Gagner

    45 Joseph Gambardella

    60 Markus Granlund

    91 Gaetan Haas

    42 Cameron Hebig

    92 Tomas Jurco LW

    44 Zack Kassian RW

    16 Jujhar Khaira

    62 Raphael Lavoie

    72 Kirill Maksimov

    24 Brad Malone

    65 Cooper Marody

    97 Connor McDavid

    70 Ryan McLeod

    18 James Neal

    93 Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

    10 Joakim Nygard

    38 Anthony Peluso

    52 Patrick Russell

    59 Ostap Safin

    23 Riley Sheahan

    54 Beau Starrett

    68 Nolan Vesey

    56 Kailer Yamamoto

  140. Harpers Hair says:

    Pescador: No no no,
    Cassandra has been a royal grump all summer.
    Negative spin is at the very least a weekly offering.
    Harper’s bad wig vs. Batman’s ridiculous alter ego
    Super Pre-season Detracktor Pull Extravaganza

    What ever happened to Traktor?
    Smart guy.

  141. Harpers Hair says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I’m going to re-post this which may be helpful:

    Camp Roster – this should be helpful for numbers as well:

    # GOALTENDERS

    19 Mikko Koskinen

    32 Olivier Rodrigue

    50 Stuart Skinner

    41 Mike Smith

    40 Shane Starrett

    30 Dylan Wells

    # DEFENCEMEN

    74 Ethan Bear

    83 Matt Benning

    75 Evan Bouchard

    90 Logan Day

    82 Caleb Jones

    77 Oscar Klefbom

    88 Jake Kulevich

    84 William Lagesson

    6 Adam Larsson

    47 Keegan Lowe

    26 Brandon Manning

    25 Darnell Nurse

    36 Joel Persson

    4 Kris Russell

    78 Dmitri Samorukov

    # FORWARDS

    15 Josh Archibald

    49 Tyler Benson

    28 Kyle Brodziak

    12 Colby Cave

    39 Alex Chiasson RW

    43 Josh Currie

    29 Leon Draisaitl

    55 Luke Esposito

    362

    2260

    89 Sam Gagner

    45 Joseph Gambardella

    60 Markus Granlund

    91 Gaetan Haas

    42 Cameron Hebig

    92 Tomas Jurco LW

    44 Zack Kassian RW

    16 Jujhar Khaira

    62 Raphael Lavoie

    72 Kirill Maksimov

    24 Brad Malone

    65 Cooper Marody

    97 Connor McDavid

    70 Ryan McLeod

    18 James Neal

    93 Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

    10 Joakim Nygard

    38 Anthony Peluso

    52 Patrick Russell

    59 Ostap Safin

    23 Riley Sheahan

    54 Beau Starrett

    68 Nolan Vesey

    56 Kailer Yamamoto

    Canucks sign Boeser for three years at $5.875.
    Remember when you said it would be over $7 million?

  142. OriginalPouzar says:

    Solid deal for the Canucks on Boeser at 3 X $5.75M.

    I think he could do the arbitration for a one year deal to take him to free agency but am not sure if he’ll have two more RFA years left or not.

  143. Jaxon says:

    I really like how Khaira plays. Nice forecheck followed by a calm heads up pass to the trailing Chiasson for a great chance.

  144. OriginalPouzar says:

    Of course, year 3 of the Boeser deal is $7.5M salary for the big QO

  145. Harpers Hair says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Of course, year 3 of the Boeser deal is $7.5M salary for the big QO

    Perfect contract for both sides.

  146. OriginalPouzar says:

    HarpersHair: Canucks sign Boeser for three years at $5.875.
    Remember when you said it would be over $7 million?

    For term, not on a bridge.

    I assume you understand the difference between the two types of contracts, although, to be fair, there are various of these types of nuances that do seem to escape you.

    QO will need to be $7.5M

  147. Harpers Hair says:

    OriginalPouzar: For term, not on a bridge.

    I assume you understand the difference between the two types of contracts, although, to be fair, there are various of these types of nuances that do seem to escape you.

    QO will need to be $7.5M

    Nothing escapes me.
    Boeser’s contract expires when Erickson’s $6 million cap hit goes away.

  148. jp says:

    Early early days, but he’s looked like a guy who can still score. Deal of the summer!

  149. Reja says:

    Harpers Hair: Nothing escapes me.
    Boeser’s contract expires when Erickson’s $6 million cap hit goes away.

    You never answered my question do you cheer for the Oilers?

  150. OriginalPouzar says:

    Not too much to say about the period.

    Neal looked quick and good to me even before he scored a net front presence goal.

    Good job by Persson to get the puck through – he made some nice little passes in the D zone, to my eye.

    The “3rd line” looks good – as they should against a middling lineup – all NHL players.

    Bouchard with lots of ice and, of course, some nice transition passes.

    Haas was noticeable, moreso than Nygard but nothing too special.

  151. Bling says:

    Neal showed some good things. Nice goal and followed it up later with a nice one-one-move to get a good scoring chance off on the backhand.

    His skating is better than I expected.

  152. Lowetide says:

    After One:

    1-0 Edmonton
    12-10 Edmonton shots
    19-17 Edmonton Corsi for 5-on-5

  153. yeraslob says:

    A lot of play in the Oilers zone for the first half of the period, hemmed in for long stretches. More even and back and forth from there. Should be a good rest of the game if this keeps up.

  154. Lowetide says:

    Was that Khaira who sent the pass to CHiasson for the point blank chance?

  155. dessert1111 says:

    None of the Oilers players looked particularly out of their league that period. I wonder how guys who are more firmly AHLers will look in preseason games (that is to say if they get a game).

    One of my favourite days of the year, honestly. The weather’s still nice and all the promise of a new hockey year and excitement of who’ll make the team.

  156. jp says:

    Reja: I’m going full bullish on Evan today what’s the odds in Vegas that he registers 20 goals and is top 3 in the rookie voting.

    I wouldn’t bet on it. But I also wouldn’t be surprised if it went just that way. A spot on PP1, then watch the points pile up.

  157. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    I suspect we will see quite a few of these 3 year contracts in the next little while.

  158. jp says:

    stevebergeron97:
    Swedish article from Rasmus Kagstrom on Brobergs debut yesterday translated to English.

    Wow, wow, wow.

    Most people already knew that Philip Broberg was a special player, but the 18-year-old’s play in the premiere really made a strong impression on me. His calm with the puck, the willingness to carry the puck up the track and his obvious calm on the blue line in powerplay gave the impression that it was an honored SHL veteran who stoked his type fourteenth SHL premiere, rather than someone who made his very first SHL- career match.

    Broberg certainly left the premiere pointless, but had it not been for lack of efficiency in Skellefteå’s attack game, the Örebrofostrade hill could easily have received both one or two passing points in his account.

    He was also close to deciding the match with a really elegant solo performance, when in the final stage of the third period, at the score 4-4, he spun up the Oskarshamns defense before he could then outwit Fredrik Pettersson Wentzel in the visitors’ goal.

    No, Broberg will definitely be an exciting player to follow this season. Just a little shame for the Swedish hockey supporters that his victory in SHL will be one year – for next season he will play in the NHL with Edmonton, so be sure

    Thanks, great stuff!

  159. CallighenMan says:

    Harpers Hair: Nothing escapes me.
    Boeser’s contract expires when Erickson’s $6 million cap hit goes away.

    OMG what an a$$!!!

  160. Reja says:

    jp: I wouldn’t bet on it. But I also wouldn’t be surprised if it went just that way. A spot on PP1, then watch the points pile up.

    I would put cash he hits 20 goals once in his career. Bouchard seems to be one of those players that picks up 2 points in a game quietly on a regular basis. If we’re going to make the playoffs we need a top 5 powerplay and I can see it with Bouchard adding the needed element to make it lethal.

  161. Bling says:

    Lowetide:
    Was that Khaira who sent the pass to CHiasson for the point blank chance?

    Yes

  162. OilFire says:

    I forgot how much I hate the way Jack Michels yell/screams “theoilers” in his throw to commercial bit

  163. Bank Shot says:

    Nygaard already has an NHL number rather than a training camp number.

    Seems like a tell.

  164. Gerta Rauss says:

    channel 352 is working for me with Shaw cable in British Columbia

    Try changing/refreshing the channel if you get a “to subscribe to this channel call 1-800”..it’s working for me at the moment

  165. Pretendergast says:

    Persson moving the puck really well so far. Agree with tip I like the way he plays, can’t speak to him below the dots yet. Seems comfortable at this level.

    Also saw some nice skating in the offensive zone walking the line and being more creative than ‘pass to d, shoot puck’ which seemed to be the go to play this period.

    It’s a start!

  166. Bank Shot says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    channel 352 is working for me with Shaw cable in British Columbia

    Try changing/refreshing the channel if you get a “to subscribe to this channel call 1-800”..it’s working for me at the moment

    BC wouldn’t be blacked out. Its nucks territory.

  167. jp says:

    2 apples apiece for Klefbom and Persson.

    Persson has looked like he just might be for real. Flashed some skill a few shifts earlier. Looks bigger than I expected.

  168. Oil2Oilers says:

    Perrson’s counting stats are encouraging. Hard too gauge performance against/with uneven skill, but he does not look lost in his first game on the small ice.

  169. jp says:

    Reja: I would put cash he hits 20 goals once in his career. Bouchard seems to be one of those players that picks up 2 points in a game quietly on a regular basis. If we’re going to make the playoffs we need a top 5 powerplay and I can see it with Bouchard adding the needed element to make it lethal.

    I agree with all that. If it happens sooner than later, well giddyup.

  170. Lowetide says:

    Bling: Yes

    Thanks..

    After Two:

    2-0 Edmonton
    23-20 shots Edmonton (11-10 Edmonton)
    39-28 Corsi 5-on-5 Edmonton (20-11 Edmonton)

  171. striatic says:

    Neal hasn’t been dominant or anything but boy does he look like a more useful player than Lucic. Being able to make and receive passes at the NHL level is an important skill, who knew?

  172. Bank Shot says:

    striatic:
    Neal hasn’t been dominant or anything but boy does he look like a more useful player than Lucic. Being able to make and receive passes at the NHL level is an important skill, who knew?

    I dunno. He looks pretty dang slow.

  173. striatic says:

    Persson broke up an excellent scoring chance with that quick reaction at the bottom of the circle.

  174. Side says:

    Bank Shot: I dunno. He looks pretty dang slow.

    Lucic – slow and can’t make or receive a pass
    Neal – slow and can make and receive a pass

    Progress!

  175. striatic says:

    Bank Shot: I dunno. He looks pretty dang slow.

    So did Lucic. Neal doesn’t look like the 25 goal scoring first line player some were hoping for this summer but he does the kinds of things on the ice that will sometimes result in goals for the team he is playing for.

  176. Derek says:

    Its extremely early but the passing from the Oilers defenders is a joy to watch so far.

  177. OriginalPouzar says:

    The Gagner/Nuge/Neal trio have been dominant, in particular when out there with Klef and Persson.

    I guess that’s expected given its an NHL line and top line d-men but its nice to Neal look so good out there – for whatever its worth.

    Joel Persson looks very good – great offensive instincts in the offensive zone and a very nice transition pass.

    Bouchard shows his elite passing and vision repeatedly and, so far, I haven’t noticed a grade A mistake.

    I’ve really liked Lagesson – very calm out there, aggressive and likes to lug the puck – he really is a 2-way guy. He’s been more noticeable for small subtle plays than Jones to my eye.

    I’ve also seen Sheahan and Khaira good but haven’t really seen Archibald all that involved.

    A couple nice little plays for Benson but not doing a ton,

  178. Younger Oil says:

    From initial “don’t read too much into the first preseason game” observations, I’m cautiously optimistic about our defence, and would be very surprised if anyone in our bottom 6 scores more than 10 goals this season.

  179. Professor Q says:

    Bank Shot: I dunno. He looks pretty dang slow.

    He was speedy at the beginning of the game.

  180. JimmyV1965 says:

    Really impressed with Lagesson and Bouchard. Very good in both ends. Feel bad for Benson. Absolutely no point playing with Russell and Cave. Some nice Benson plays dieing on the vine.

  181. Pretendergast says:

    Gotta love the preseason. If this boring as hell 3rd was in the regular season we would be planning the parade. Winnipeg can’t do a thing, textbook Tip hockey.

    Hopefully Persson’s fast enough by regular season cause he’s not intimidating below the dots but it won’t matter much if the boots are there.

    D passing well, gonna be interesting to see if Lars and Nurse have learned how to pass.

  182. Jaxon says:

    Not sure Gagner kept himself on that line. I think Khaira may have done enough to get a look there. Maybe Benson as well. Didn’t notice Nygard that much.

  183. flyfish1168 says:

    Lagesson > Russell

    Very impressive game by William

  184. OriginalPouzar says:

    Would have been nice to see Bouch and Persson with some PP time….

  185. striatic says:

    Pretendergast: Gotta love the preseason. If this boring as hell 3rd was in the regular season we would be planning the parade. Winnipeg can’t do a thing, textbook Tip hockey.

    For real, I looked up at the time remaining in the period and thought “Jesus, only 54 seconds left? Where the hell did the time go? I guess we win.”

  186. Bank Shot says:

    Jaxon:
    Not sure Gagner kept himself on that line. I think Khaira may have done enough to get a look there. Maybe Benson as well. Didn’t notice Nygard that much.

    Perhaps the Flames will waive Czarnik and the Oilers could try him on their 2nd line.

  187. Jordan says:

    Jaxon:
    Not sure Gagner kept himself on that line. I think Khaira may have done enough to get a look there. Maybe Benson as well. Didn’t notice Nygard that much.

    THere was a sequence in the 3rd when Khaira was out with Neal and Nuge and the Jets couldn’t get the puck out of their zone for love nor money. I don’t know that he can do that consistently, but I know he can do it.

    That’s more than I saw from most of a game with Gagner in that spot. And I’d consider myself a Gagner supporter, I don’t think that’s especially biased (or so I hope).

  188. Pescador says:

    flyfish1168:
    Lagesson > Russell

    Very impressive game by William

    I know right, how come nobody has ever mentioned this guy before?

  189. Pretendergast says:

    Pescador: I know right, how come nobody has ever mentioned this guy before?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D23GQwanddE

  190. Jethro Tull says:

    flyfish1168:
    Lagesson > Russell

    Very impressive game by William

    But can he block shots and do the other players like him?

  191. geowal says:

    For those who watched, what should I make of the shutout? Were the goalies actually tested?

  192. Gerta Rauss says:

    Pescador: I know right, how come nobody has ever mentioned this guy before?

    All summer..and not a peep

  193. yeraslob says:

    Pescador,

    Its like he came out of nowhere…

  194. OriginalPouzar says:

    Who was wearing 84????

  195. Ryan says:

    Younger Oil:
    From initial “don’t read too much into the first preseason game” observations, I’m cautiously optimistic about our defence, and would be very surprised if anyone in our bottom 6 scores more than 10 goals this season.

    You don’t think Chiasson will get 10 goals?

  196. Pretendergast says:

    geowal,

    Skinner kinda

    Wells no

    OriginalPouzar,

    Haas

    jk it was your boy lags

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