2019-20 Game 57: Oilers at Lightning

Through 56 games this season at five on five, the Edmonton Oilers are 111-128 (-17) in goal differential. Through 57 games this season, the Tampa Bay Lightning are 135-97 (+38). That’s before we factor in McDavid’s absence. This ain’t no party, this ain’t no disco, this ain’t no foolin’ around.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, less than two coffees a month offer here. 

  • New Jonathan Willis: 10 overlooked trade targets for the Oilers before the 2020 deadline
  • New Jonathan Willis: Meet Bob Stauffer, the Oilers insider who balances two roles: team employee and team critic
  • Lowetide: Why Connor McDavid’s injury is unlikely to alter Ken Holland’s trade deadline plan for the Oilers
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘We want to take it as a challenge’: Oilers survive first game without McDavid as room for improvement remains
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Trying to make sense of Connor McDavid’s injury and Darnell Nurse’s new contract with Oilers
  • Jonathan Willis: Faced with uncertainty, Oilers hedge their bet on Darnell Nurse
  • Lowetide: Oilers sign Darnell Nurse
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Oilers Observations: A Connor McDavid scare, Leon Draisaitl’s back, boosting the top line and helping Zack Kassian
  • Lowetide: The Oilers trading their first-round pick is a bad idea
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: After a ‘long road’ to the NHL, Tyler Benson’s Oilers debut holds extra meaning
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘Emotionless’ Oilers fail yet again to match passion from a week ago
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: 15 potential trade targets for the Oilers before the 2020 deadline
  • Lowetide: Drilling down on right-handed centres for the Oilers to target before the trade deadline
  • Jonathan Willis: Oilers trade suggestions: 50 proposals from readers, with our verdict
  • Lowetide: If fast is the new big, the Oilers are trending in a very good direction
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘I got a text from Wayne Gretzky that I’ve still got saved’: 8 years later, Sam Gagner reflects on his 8-point night.
  • Lowetide: What’s next for Tyler Benson and William Lagesson after being called up by the Oilers?
  • Lowetide: Why the Oilers are more likely to trade Adam Larsson than Kris Russell
  • Lowetide: Oilers prospects Evan Bouchard and Tyler Benson deliver best minor league performances in 20 years
  • Jonathan Willis: An updated list of which Oilers are most likely to be traded in 2019-20
  • Lowetide: Kailer Yamamoto gives Oilers a midseason spark, one of the best in team history
  • Jonathan Willis: The Oilers’ road forward — and perhaps to a Stanley Cup — requires trusting the kids on defence

OILERS AFTER 57 GAMES

  • Oilers in 2015-16: 22-29-6, 50 points; goal differential -27
  • Oilers in 2016-17: 30-19-8, 68 points; goal differential +10
  • Oilers in 2017-18: 23-30-4, 50 points; goal differential -34
  • Oilers in 2018-19: 24-28-5, 53 points; goal differential -23
  • Oilers in 2019-20: 30-20-6, 66 points; goal differential +4

This is a monster road trip, but I think reasonable expectations (considering McDavid is hurt) should be something like 1-2-0. If Edmonton hits Monday at 31-22-6, 68 points after 59 games, no one should complain. Need a goalie to steal one of those weekend games.

ON THE TENS

  • First 10 games: 7-2-1
  • Second 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Third 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Fourth 10 games: 3-6-1
  • Fifth 10 games: 6-2-2
  • Current 10 games: 4-2-0

The next four games are against Tampa Bay, Florida, Carolina and Boston. This 10-game stanza may end up being something like 5-5-0.

OILERS IN FEBRUARY

  • Oilers in February 2016: 2-4-0, four points; goal differential -14
  • Oilers in February 2017: 3-3-0, six points; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in February 2018: 1-4-1, three points; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in February 2019: 1-3-2, four points; goal differential -8
  • Oilers in February 2020: 3-2-0, six points; goal differential +2

So far this month, the Oilers have delivered solid play and beaten some impressive teams. This road trip, the one that starts tonight, is another issue altogether. If we’re honest, even three points grabbed in any fashion over the weekend would be impressive.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN FEBRUARY

  • On the road to: CAL, ARI (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • At home to: SJS, NAS, CHI (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 2-1-0)
  • On the road to: TBY, FLA, CAR (Expected 1-1-1)
  • At home to: BOS, MIN (Expected 1-1-0)
  • On the road to: LAK, ANA, VEG (Expected 2-1-0)
  • At home to: WPG (Expected 1-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 8-5-1, 17 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 3-2-0, six points in five games

Oilers will be in California at the deadline, having played the LA Kings on February 23 with Anaheim the opposition two days later. The deadline this year is February 24, the Monday. The Oilers have six games between now and that date, and they are tough ones. I think Edmonton will go 3-3-0 in those games, meaning the deadline record would be 33-23-6, 72 points in 62 games. Does that put the team close enough to the playoffs to be a buyer? I think it does.

OILERS 2019-20

Where does Tyler Benson play? First, he might not get into tonight’s game, Edmonton won against Chicago and that usually means same lineup in the next game.

Given the choice, and with the understanding the No. 1 line of Nuge-Leon-KY probably stays together, I’d go Benson-Haas-Gagner. You can say ‘that’s the fourth line’ but they’re all fourth lines after Leon. I think coach Dave Tippett will rely on the Sheahan line for checking on the road, and the Cave trio suppressed shots impressively the other night. Benson with Gagner means some real skill and Haas has speed and can disrupt damn near anything headed the other way.

THE CONDORS

Bakersfield is a melluva hess currently and there’s nothing really that can be done. Condors lost last night had a lead going into the third but couldn’t hold it.

Even with that as a backdrop, there’s real talent down there. Evan Bouchard and Dmitri Samorukov are on a track that lands them in the NHL, Ryan McLeod and Kirill Maksimov showing good signs in the first year of entry deals. Stuart Skinner has impressed me. Since January 1, in front of a dwindling roster, he has stopped 400 of 440 shots (.909). Take out the last three games, when a skeleton staff was showing up for work and he’s stopped 373 of 401 shots, .930. There’s a player there. Pretty sure.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, TSN1260, we’ll hit the ground running and talk the wide world of sports. Sean Woodley from Raptors HQ, Locked on Raptors and TSN1150 will talk about the end of a fantastic winning streak for the Raptors. Frank Seravalli from TSN will chat Jay Boumeester, Oilers road trip and the trade deadline. Erik Erlendsson of Lightning Insider talks about tonight’s home team, injuries and why the regular season is just a dress rehearsal in Tampa Bay. 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Steady talking starts at 10!

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  1. OriginalPouzar says:

    Anxious for info on the availability of Stamkos, Kucherov, Ciareli.

    Also, curious if Benson draws in – Tippett likely sticks with the lineup that won – don’t think anyone was egregiously bad. Khaira at LW is an option to sit but PK. Don’t see Benson coming in for Russell given RW/LW.

    With an early start, we should know a few hours earlier than normal.

  2. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    WC standings using points percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Central
    COL 17
    STL 17
    DAL 13

    Pathetic
    VAN 11
    EDM 10
    VGP 6

    Wildcard
    CGY 6
    WPG 5

    Out of playoffs
    ARI 5
    NSH 4
    MIN 4
    CHI 1
    ANA -3
    SJS -4
    LAK -13

    -COL (.655) has 2 less GP than STL (.640)
    -VGP and CGY have identical records and pts % – tie broken by regulation wins (22-19)
    -WPG (.543) has 1 less gp than ARI (.542)
    -NSH (.5363) has 1 less gp than MIN (.5357)

    -This is how I break ties every day, spelling it out so Nit64 is happy and can stop being so nitty. Sorted by points % (like the title says) and then tie breaks. I will pay more attention to teams out of the playoffs and make sure I break those ties too.

    Relevant games tonight:

    EDM (+170) at TBY (-200) – TBY should win but that line is heavy, especially if Stamkos is game time decision, and both Cirelli and Kucherov are out.

    ARI (-140) at OTT (+120) – ARI really needs this free spot on the bingo card

    NYI (+125) at NSH (-145) – I think NYI has a bit of value here. NSH is sliding.

    NYR (+115) at MIN (-135) – Line is close. Rags can score, Doobie not having a great year. (Stalock has been better)

    STL (+130) at VGP (-150) – I wonder if STL can use Jbo as a rallying point or if they’re just spooked? I can’t imagine watching that happen.

    CGY (-115) at ANA (-105) – Wow. Bookies have ANA as only a slight dog. Flattop helped his old team last night, need Eakins to do the same.

  3. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    EC standings using points percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Atlantic
    BOS 24
    TBY 22
    TOR 11

    Metropolitan
    WSH 21
    PIT 19
    NYI 17

    Wildcard
    CBJ 13
    PHI 12

    Our of playoffs
    CAR 11
    FLA 10
    NYR 5
    MTL 2
    BUF 1
    NJD -5
    OTT -9
    DET -26

    -Relevant wildcard games tonight:

    -CBJ (-110) at BUF (-110) – Jack Adams doesn’t need Jones to beat BUF. Value here on CBJ.

    -DAL (+120) at TOR (-140) – DAL looks to be big value here imo. TOR doesn’t have a goalie, DAL has all the goalies.

    -PHI (+105) at FLA (-125) – I like PHI straight up so +105 is good too. Bob will probably Bob.

  4. N64 says:

    Woodguy v2.0: spelling it out so Nit64 is happy and can stop being so nitty

    Hallelujah!

  5. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    This is why I don’t post the standings showing the actual points percentage and show it as points over Bettman.

    Central
    COL 0.654545455
    STL 0.649122807
    DAL 0.616071429

    Pathetic
    VAN 0.594827586
    EDM 0.589285714
    VGP 0.551724138

    Wildcard
    CGY 0.551724138
    WPG 0.543103448

    Out of playoffs
    ARI 0.542372881
    NSH 0.536363636
    MIN 0.535714286
    CHI 0.50877193
    ANA 0.473684211
    SJS 0.464285714
    LAK 0.387931034

    Even if I shorten it to 3 decimal places it still looks like you have to read the matrix:

    Central
    COL 0.655
    STL 0.649
    DAL 0.616

    Pathetic
    VAN 0.595
    EDM 0.589
    VGP 0.552

    Wildcard
    CGY 0.552
    WPG 0.543

    Out of playoffs
    ARI 0.542
    NSH 0.536
    MIN 0.536
    CHI 0.509
    ANA 0.474
    SJS 0.464
    LAK 0.388

    Its true, but you can’t get any meaning from it.

  6. OriginalPouzar says:

    Stamkos is skating this morning.

  7. Side says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Stamkos is skating this morning.

    I’ll get the crowbar.

  8. Darth Tu says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Stamkos is skating this morning.

    If he does play tonight, I’m going to hope that he’s somehow rusty and not ready to do anything too Stamkos-like. A blessing in disguise? I’m maybe squinting too hard.

  9. VanIsleOil says:

    ……..This ain’t no Mudd Club, or C. B. G. B.,
    I ain’t got time for that now

    • Wonder Llama says:

      Vancouver Canucks: “I’ve changed my jersey so many times now, I don’t know what I look like.”

      • OilClog says:

        The mix match assortment of banners they have hanging looks like a gypsies suitcase, which is a quilt of mismatched banners sewn together and fashioned around some lumber that one can heave over the shoulder when hopping train cars.

  10. Pescador says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    WC standings using points percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Central
    COL17
    STL17
    DAL13

    Pathetic
    VAN11
    EDM10
    VGP6

    Wildcard
    CGY6
    WPG5

    Out of playoffs
    ARI5
    NSH4
    MIN4
    CHI1
    ANA-3
    SJS-4
    LAK-13

    -COL (.655) has 2 less GP than STL (.640)
    -VGP and CGY have identical records and pts % – tie broken by regulation wins (22-19)
    -WPG (.543) has 1 less gp than ARI (.542)
    -NSH (.5363) has 1 less gp than MIN (.5357)

    -This is how I break ties every day, spelling it out so Nit64 is happy and can stop being so nitty. Sorted by points % (like the title says) and then tie breaks.I will pay more attention to teams out of the playoffs and make sure I break those ties too.

    Relevant games tonight:

    EDM (+170) at TBY (-200) – TBY should win but that line is heavy, especially if Stamkos is game time decision, and both Cirelli and Kucherov are out.

    ARI (-140) at OTT (+120) – ARI really needs this free spot on the bingo card

    NYI (+125)at NSH (-145) – I think NYI has a bit of value here.NSH is sliding.

    NYR (+115) at MIN (-135) – Line is close.Rags can score, Doobie not having a great year. (Stalock has been better)

    STL (+130) at VGP (-150) – I wonder if STL can use Jbo as a rallying point or if they’re just spooked?I can’t imagine watching that happen.

    CGY (-115)at ANA (-105) – Wow.Bookies have ANA as only a slight dog.Flattop helped his old team last night, need Eakins to do the same.

    McDavid & Leon played hard in spite of Flat top & his thoroughly mediocre media avails,
    he has no axe to grind.
    Chiarelli stuck a knife in his back, but Todd knew that would happen because that’s Pete’s personality style. very Rat-esc.
    I wouldn’t be surprised to find out Eakins started his 3rd string goalie & healthy scratched Ryan Getzlaf due to percieved conditioning issues.
    Dallas is still cyphering through the “bill of goods” that he was was tricked in to buying from the world’s greatest used car salesman- Craig Mctavish.
    (that last one’s for you Hunter1909)
    Woodguy wrote:
    -“This is how I break ties every day, spelling it out so Nit64 is happy and can stop being so nitty. Sorted by points % (like the title says) and then tie breaks. I will pay more attention to teams out of the playoffs and make sure I break those ties too.”
    *I liked it better the old way* 🤓

    • Woodguy v2.0 says:


      *I liked it better the old way* 🤓

      I didn’t change anything other than adding points % in the explanation lines.

      That is the only time that will happen.

    • pts2pndr says:

      That is crap. MacLelland was a GM killer. He wanted the perfect players that fit his system. He was given amazing rosters that he failed to win with in San Jose. Godot was very kind when he said thoroughly mediocre coach. Played mental games with rookies. This man was and is not a good coach. He has no concept of leadership. How many players under him improved after playing for another coach?

  11. hunter1909 says:

    Okay so my Hunter1909 Death March™ prediction of Oilers needing(and getting) 12 out of the next 20 points has started off with a W and so all they need to do is to go 5-4 in their next 9 games and when McDavid returns all will be well.

    Death March™ Mini League Standings

    oilers 1-0-0 2

    9 games to play. Tonight’s game – Tampa Bay Lightning

  12. OriginalPouzar says:

    Stamkos left skate early – didn’t participate in line rushes.

  13. hunter1909 says:

    Pescador: Dallas is still cyphering through the “bill of goods” that he was was tricked in to buying from the world’s greatest used car salesman- Craig Mctavish.

    Eakins bullshitted himself into a job he clearly wasn’t capable of.

    With Lowe’s assistance, MacT bullshitted himself into a reasonable facsimile of an NHL coaching career.

    “Edmonton’s lucky to have Craig. He can snap his fingers before being approached to coach half the teams in the NHL right now”

  14. Andy Dufresne says:

    Question O’ The Day

    Post Deadline will we be:

    A) A van that is loaded with weapons; Packed up and ready to go

    OR will we more resemble

    B) grave sites, out by the highway; A place where nobody knows
    .
    .
    .
    Transmit the message, to the receiver; Hope for an answer Monday (Feb 24)

    • pts2pndr says:

      Vancouver is tailored for regular season. They will not get out of the first round. There is regrettably a vast difference between regular season and playoffs. Vancouver is talented and fun to watch. Their talent will be allowed to be mugged in the playoffs/second season.
      # crap league
      # tradition unhampered by progress

  15. jtblack says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    WC standings using points percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Central
    COL17
    STL17
    DAL13

    Pathetic
    VAN11
    EDM10
    VGP6

    Wildcard
    CGY6
    WPG5

    Out of playoffs
    ARI5
    NSH4
    MIN4
    CHI1
    ANA-3
    SJS-4
    LAK-13

    -COL (.655) has 2 less GP than STL (.640)
    -VGP and CGY have identical records and pts % – tie broken by regulation wins (22-19)
    -WPG (.543) has 1 less gp than ARI (.542)
    -NSH (.5363) has 1 less gp than MIN (.5357)

    -This is how I break ties every day, spelling it out so Nit64 is happy and can stop being so nitty. Sorted by points % (like the title says) and then tie breaks.I will pay more attention to teams out of the playoffs and make sure I break those ties too.

    Relevant games tonight:

    EDM (+170) at TBY (-200) – TBY should win but that line is heavy, especially if Stamkos is game time decision, and both Cirelli and Kucherov are out.

    ARI (-140) at OTT (+120) – ARI really needs this free spot on the bingo card

    NYI (+125)at NSH (-145) – I think NYI has a bit of value here.NSH is sliding.

    NYR (+115) at MIN (-135) – Line is close.Rags can score, Doobie not having a great year. (Stalock has been better)

    STL (+130) at VGP (-150) – I wonder if STL can use Jbo as a rallying point or if they’re just spooked?I can’t imagine watching that happen.

    CGY (-115)at ANA (-105) – Wow.Bookies have ANA as only a slight dog.Flattop helped his old team last night, need Eakins to do the same.

    please just keep doing it how you do it ! Love it every day … Thanks for taking the time

  16. Reja says:

    Side: I’ll get the crowbar.

    Police batons work as well.

  17. Fuge Udvar says:

    The drama over WGs rankings is hilarious. WG having to explain it gives me flashbacks to Obama actually showing his birth certificate.. How did we let it get this far.

  18. Fuge Udvar says:

    The drama over WGs rankings is hilarious. WG having to explain it gives me flashbacks to Obama actually showing his birth certificate.. How did we let it get this far.

  19. Reja says:

    Fuge Udvar:
    The drama over WGs rankings is hilarious. WG having to explain it gives me flashbacks to Obama actually showing his birth certificate.. How did we let it get this far.

    Where there’s smoke there’s fire.

  20. OriginalPouzar says:

    Stamkos, Kucherov, Ciareli, McDoughna, Rutta – all out.

  21. dustrock says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    Deja vu followed by a Reja view

    Andy on fire this morning

    • Andy Dufresne says:

      🙂

      “Next time you blog, try to spit a flow”
      You wanna criticize, dog? Try a little mo’
      I’m so tired of this I could blow, fire in the hole
      I’m fired up, so fire up the lighter and the dro
      Better hold on a little tighter, Here I Go’

      #Eminem

      #GhostRider

      #DustRockBluesDropProps

  22. Woodguy v2.0 says:


    @Bob_Stauffer
    Kucherov, Stamkos, and Cirelli all out for Tampa Bay.
    McDavid obviously out for Edmonton.

  23. Side says:

    Reja: Police batons work as well.

    Then I will use my crowbar on a police officer to acquire his baton.

  24. Fuge Udvar says:

    I think we should post each version of the rankings every day alternating each day which one is posted first. And then give each one a participation medal so none feel special.. Or they all feel special i can’t remember which way it’s supposed to go.

    • Andy Dufresne says:

      I beg your pardon,
      I never promised you a Fig Garden

      Along with the sunshine,
      Theres gotta be some awkward Ranklings sometimes,

      So smile for awhile and lets be Jolly
      Rankings shouldn’t make us all Melencholy

      Come along and share Woodguys stats while we ca-a-a-an!

      (Lynn Anderson, Rose Garden)

  25. Darth Tu says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Stamkos left skate early – didn’t participate in line rushes.

    I am fully taking credit for squinting/wishful thinking if he does not play tonight. You’re all welcome.

    • Andy Dufresne says:

      Mucho Gracias!

      And say hello to Sidious, Tyranus and Vader for me!

      #DarthAlso

      • Darth Tu says:

        They apparently live within me now, or whatever hot mess JJ dreamed up in that last movie. They send their regards.

        • Andy Dufresne says:

          Quote “Its getting crowded in here” Sybil Dorsett (1971)

          #Sybil+16

          -Sybil Isabel Dorsett (1923), the main personality
          -Victoria Antoinette Scharleau (1926), nicknamed Vicky, self-assured and sophisticated young French girl
          -Peggy Lou Baldwin (1926), assertive, enthusiastic, and often angry
          -Peggy Ann Baldwin (1926), a counterpart of Peggy Lou but more fearful than angry
          -Mary Lucinda Saunders Dorsett (1933), a thoughtful, contemplative, and maternal homebody
          -Marcia Lynn Dorsett (1927), an extremely emotional writer and painter
          -Vanessa Gail Dorsett (1935), intensely dramatic, fun loving, and a talented musician.
          -Mike Dorsett (1928), one of Sybil’s two male selves, a builder and a carpenter
          -Sid Dorsett (1928), the second of Sybil’s two male selves, a carpenter and a general handyman. Sid took his name from -Sybil’s initials (Sybil Isabelle Dorsett), meaning that Mason’s personality would have been named Sam (Shirley Ardell Mason)
          -Nancy Lou Ann Baldwin (date undetermined), interested in politics as fulfillment of Biblical prophecy and intensely afraid of Roman Catholics
          -Sybil Ann Dorsett (1928), listless to the point of neurasthenia
          -Ruthie Dorsett (1890), a baby and one of the less developed selves
          -Clara Dorsett (date undetermined), intensely religious and highly critical of Sybil
          -Helen Dorsett (1929), intensely afraid but determined to achieve fulfillment
          -Marjorie Dorsett (1928), serene, vivacious, and quick to laugh
          -The Blonde (1946), a nameless perpetual teenager with an optimistic outlook

        • Shane says:

          ‘Hot mess’ Is a great description of that movie..

  26. blainer says:

    I was very impressed with both Sheahan and Archie last game. These two players are increasing their value every game lately.

    I was happy with both signings when they happened and hope KH gets both of them signed to two year contracts this week.

    We might actually have a chance with that Tampa lineup. Glad I didn’t buy tickets to the Florida games this year.

    Yammer has been outstanding. Bet he turns into a ppg player for a full year once he gets regular PP time.

  27. godot10 says:

    blainer:
    I was very impressed with both Sheahan and Archie last game. These two players are increasing their value every game lately.

    Notice the omission! -).

    • Andy Dufresne says:

      As per…..Which Sybil are you?

      Godot is Ruthie………………………………kidding 🙂

      • Andy Dufresne says:

        Preemptive Strike:

        Im the Blonde………………………….. kidding 🙂
        .
        .
        .
        .
        sort of

  28. Oilman99 says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    So with some solid goaltending, maybe we can steal two points and get outa Dodge with a smile.

  29. Fiveinatrailer says:

    blainer,

    Me too but why does a good 1 year contract have to turn into a 2 year?
    (See Chiasson).
    Give them another 1 year deal if still interested. If they aren’t, well, thanks for the great year.

  30. Andy Dufresne says:

    blainer: I was very impressed with both Sheahan and Archie last game. These two players are increasing their value every game lately.

    They’re getting zoomed 🙂

  31. Andy Dufresne says:

    OK, on the advice of my lawyers WGOP and Associates,

    Im done taking up space on the thread. 🙂

    Feel free to talk amongst yourselves.

    Peace Out.

    GOILERS!

  32. Reja says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    Deja vu followed by a Reja view

    So forget all that you see.
    It’s not reality, it’s just a fantasy.

  33. flyfish1168 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Stamkos left skate early – didn’t participate in line rushes.

    Report from ESPN that Kucherov (lower-body injury) Steven Stamkos and Anthony Cirelli are all out for tonight’s game

  34. Ben says:

    Thoughts on the Benning/Kerfoot chatter? (I’m guessing Oil throw in Khaira too, for $ and gritensity).

    I don’t hate it for next year, but painful to have Russell back on the right side for the stretch run.

    Kerfoot’s interesting. Ok, locked-in contract. Seems like a dependable 15g-30a guy. Hasn’t won as many draws this year. Seems to generally out-chance but has often been playing with killers this year.

    I really like Benning in that spot, but they’ve got players coming. And he’s had his eggs scrambled a few times in a young career.

    I’m very slightly leaning to yes.

  35. SkatinginSand says:

    Explanation of Connor’s injury by my physiotherapist.

    When Connor hit the boards, it caused a bone bruise to the femur, which then bled into the quad. This blood contains cells which repair bone tissue and can actually cause the formation of bone inside the muscle tissue, called myositis ossificans . The treatment to prevent this is immobilization, ice, compression and elevation.

    If the calcification of the muscle occurs, the only thing that can be done is wait until the bone completely forms, then surgically remove it. This is not an insignificant injury, it cost Cam Neely his career.

  36. dustrock says:

    https://theathletic.com/1603866/2020/02/13/10-overlooked-trade-targets-for-the-oilers-before-the-2020-deadline/

    As usual, Young Willis bringing street knowledge.

    I like the idea of adding Mike Green, particularly if Larsson is available to grab a forward. His numbers are pretty great this year on an abysmal Wings team and he’s UFA so it’s just cash. I’m assuming his next deal will be his last and perhaps he’d be looking at a place to win.

    Just thought the ask might not be as high.

    Even if you’re not moving Larsson, you can add Green, bump Larsson down to 3rd pair and if you need to reverse that in the playoffs, you can do so.

    Or if Bear gets targeted and his minutes need to be pulled back, then Green can step in.

    • OilClog says:

      Green is going to spell Larsson and Bear off, I was unaware Green is a 5 tool defenceman, it’s not everyday that one’s crave for knowledge can be satisfied before lunch. Truly a gravy afternoon on the horizon. Mike Green 5 tools!

  37. OriginalPouzar says:

    Same lineup as last game. Makes sense.

  38. Side says:

    SkatinginSand:
    Explanation of Connor’s injury by my physiotherapist.

    When Connor hit the boards, it caused a bone bruise to the femur, which then bled into the quad.This blood contains cells which repair bone tissue and can actually cause the formation of bone inside the muscle tissue, called myositis ossificans . The treatment to prevent this is immobilization, ice, compression and elevation.

    If the calcification of the muscle occurs, the only thing that can be done is wait until the bone completely forms, then surgically remove it.This is not an insignificant injury, it cost Cam Neely his career.

    This seems to be in stark contrast to what the MRI revealed:

    “The good thing about having the MRI is not only did we see the quad injury, but the doctors had an opportunity to look at the injuries from this summer and everything looks great.”

    and what Holland is saying:

    “He’s two to three weeks. That’s the normal timeline for this injury. We’re hoping it can be a little bit less. No surgery. It’s an injury significant enough that he’s going to miss games but it’s not long-term,” Holland said.

    • Jethro Tull says:

      Yeah, historically the Oilers have been all over releasing the correct information in a timely manner. *eye roll*

      FWIW, I get the impression Ken was slightly miffed at Burgers about the last injury.

      What ever failings Ken has as a GM, I believe him to have integrity, and not do what Bob did, which was basically lie and say everything was fine when it wasn’t.

      Not so bad during the season, with a stable organization, but one, possibly two people signed on with the Oilers in the belief Connor would be fine and then the season tickets also sold in the belief Connor would be fine.

      • Side says:

        I don’t recall the Oilers ever lying about what the doctors and diagnostics revealed though.

        Like you said, I trust Holland more than I do Bob.

  39. dustrock says:

    SkatinginSand:
    Explanation of Connor’s injury by my physiotherapist.

    When Connor hit the boards, it caused a bone bruise to the femur, which then bled into the quad.This blood contains cells which repair bone tissue and can actually cause the formation of bone inside the muscle tissue, called myositis ossificans . The treatment to prevent this is immobilization, ice, compression and elevation.

    If the calcification of the muscle occurs, the only thing that can be done is wait until the bone completely forms, then surgically remove it.This is not an insignificant injury, it cost Cam Neely his career.

    This sounds like a worst case scenario. We don’t even know if it was a bone bruise.

  40. defmn says:

    Ben:
    Thoughts on the Benning/Kerfoot chatter? (I’m guessing Oil throw in Khaira too, for $ and gritensity).

    Where are you hearing this?

  41. Ben says:

    defmn,

    Apparently a Dreger speculation on 1260.

  42. OilClog says:

    I’m not sure on the love for Sheahan, I saw a guy move up the batting order and take 2 minor penalties with his additional ice time. Vet pro can’t be doing that when he’s called upon, gonna bite many asses eventually.

  43. who says:

    Ben:
    Thoughts on the Benning/Kerfoot chatter? (I’m guessing Oil throw in Khaira too, for $ and gritensity).

    I don’t hate it for next year, but painful to have Russell back on the right side for the stretch run.

    Kerfoot’s interesting. Ok, locked-in contract. Seems like a dependable 15g-30a guy. Hasn’t won as many draws this year. Seems to generally out-chance but has often been playing with killers this year.

    I really like Benning in that spot, but they’ve got players coming. And he’s had his eggs scrambled a few times in a young career.

    I’m very slightly leaning to yes.

    If you can get Kerfoot for Benning you make the trade. Russell or Jones can play 3RD. Bouchard can start there next year.
    Kerfoot gives you a legit 3C with speed and some skill.

  44. Reja says:

    defmn: Where are you hearing this?

    A big yes for Keerfoot bring him back west where he belongs.

  45. Cassandra says:

    Ben:
    Thoughts on the Benning/Kerfoot chatter? (I’m guessing Oil throw in Khaira too, for $ and gritensity).

    I don’t hate it for next year, but painful to have Russell back on the right side for the stretch run.

    Kerfoot’s interesting. Ok, locked-in contract. Seems like a dependable 15g-30a guy. Hasn’t won as many draws this year. Seems to generally out-chance but has often been playing with killers this year.

    I really like Benning in that spot, but they’ve got players coming. And he’s had his eggs scrambled a few times in a young career.

    I’m very slightly leaning to yes.

    I can’t see Toronto doing that, though it is slightly more likely than the other Toronto rumours. I can at least imagine them wanting Benning, but Kerfoot is too high a price.

  46. defmn says:

    Ben:
    defmn,

    Apparently a Dreger speculation.

    I haven’t seen him play much this season but I always liked him when he was in Colorado. Right age for the cluster, reasonable contract for a 3C, has shown more scoring touch in the past.

    I make that trade today if it is available. Jones back to the right side unless they think Bouchard is ready. I don’t care about the lost year on the ELC and I don’t think the Oilers do either.

  47. Darth Tu says:

    Andy Dufresne,

    this is truly amazing.

  48. JOFA says:

    Ben:
    Thoughts on the Benning/Kerfoot chatter? (I’m guessing Oil throw in Khaira too, for $ and gritensity).

    I don’t hate it for next year, but painful to have Russell back on the right side for the stretch run.

    Kerfoot’s interesting. Ok, locked-in contract. Seems like a dependable 15g-30a guy. Hasn’t won as many draws this year. Seems to generally out-chance but has often been playing with killers this year.

    I really like Benning in that spot, but they’ve got players coming. And he’s had his eggs scrambled a few times in a young career.

    I’m very slightly leaning to yes.

    Get it done yesterday! The quicker we get anything of value for Benson the better.

  49. who says:

    Cassandra: I can’t see Toronto doing that, though it is slightly more likely than the other Toronto rumours.I can at least imagine them wanting Benning, but Kerfoot is too high a price.

    The only reason Toronto would do it is for the cap savings. The extra 1.5 million might help them do another deal.

  50. who says:

    JOFA: Get it done yesterday! The quicker we get anything of value for Benson the better.

    Huh?

  51. JOFA says:

    who: Huh?

    Who?

  52. Darth Tu says:

    In my daily scan of twitter to gauge the Max Domi feelings, the Habs fans really seem to have soured on him. Apparently he wasn’t beating up the Bruins last night or some such other crime.

    He’d look pretty good in our lineup tbh, and a change of scenery might bring back a bit of his scoring. Sure, it looks like he was shooting way above his average last year (13.8%) when he put up his 28 goal season, but I still think he’d be worth a look. Plus a move back to wing once McDavid returns might work in his favour.

  53. defmn says:

    who: The only reason Toronto would do it is for the cap savings. The extra 1.5 million might help them do another deal.

    I can see them wanting Khaira as well. They don’t have a lot of toughness in their forwards even after adding Clifford. It still seems too good to be true but . . .

    Toronto with 49 contracts at the moment so I guess we wait and see. One thing about Benning is his numbers make him look better than the visuals imo so with Toronto that tends to move the dial.

  54. Darth Tu says:

    who: The only reason Toronto would do it is for the cap savings. The extra 1.5 million might help them do another deal.

    Cap space really is a thing of value these days – especially for teams as hard up against it as Toronto are.

    If this Kerfoot thing is real, I’d consider moving Benning for sure.

  55. blainer says:

    Fiveinatrailer:
    blainer,

    Me too but why does a good 1 year contract have to turn into a 2 year?
    (See Chiasson).
    Give them another 1 year deal if still interested. If they aren’t, well, thanks for the great year.

    I was thinking $1.2 M each so $2.4 for two years each. It’s a small bump and can bury most of it the minors if need be. I’m not sure but I think these signings would also help with the expansion draft.

  56. Reja says:

    dustrock: This sounds like a worst case scenario.We don’t even know if it was a bone bruise.

    Fear Mongering.

  57. who says:

    defmn: I can see them wanting Khaira as well. They don’t have a lot of toughness in their forwards even after adding Clifford. It still seems too good to be true but . . .

    Toronto with 49 contracts at the moment so I guess we wait and see. One thing about Benning is his numbers make him look better than the visuals imo so with Toronto that tends to move the dial.

    I think you’ve already pointed out why they don’t want Khaira in your post.
    Just acquired Clifford, 49 contracts, etc.

  58. who says:

    Darth Tu: Cap space really is a thing of value these days – especially for teams as hard up against it as Toronto are.

    If this Kerfoot thing is real, I’d consider moving Benning for sure.

    Exactly.

  59. Munny says:

    KRusty did not travel with the team, won’t be available this road trip.

    per Stauffer

  60. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Interesting that Coach T has gone back to the game day practice. I know some here have said it doesn’t produce positive effects but seems to be working under the new regime.

  61. Reja says:

    Wow Oilers sure are getting a good price. Is this the day to drink a bottle of Whiskey and pound them hard?

  62. Munny says:

    who: I think you’ve already pointed out why they don’t want Khaira in your post.
    Just acquired Clifford, 49 contracts, etc.

    Yup. I was pushing Khaira in a Kapanen deal earlier this week, but with the trade for Clifford, that ship has sailed.

  63. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    Interesting that Coach T has gone back to the game day practice.I know some here have said it doesn’t produce positive effects but seems to be working under the new regime.

    I don’t think they skated yesterday so I makes sense to stretch the legs this morning.

    Tippett has given them a lot of optional practices the morning of games.

    He’s done a good job managing their energy level I think.

    With the next two being afternoon games there won’t be much (if any) of a re-name skate.

  64. Leroy Draisdale says:

    “With the next two being afternoon games there won’t be much (if any) of a re-name skate.”
    Too bad, I’d like to “re-name” Kris Russell to Kapanen!

  65. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    The biggest hurdle tonight is that it would probably be easier to score on a brick wall in the net with one brick missing in the middle than score on Vas.

  66. godot10 says:

    I like Benning as he is an above average 3rd pairing D, but the Oilers have Russell, Bouchard, and Persson. Bouchard is close and ready for a trial anyway.

    Kerfoot is 25, signed, and is a competent middle of the roster type of player.

    I would make the trade.

    • Doug McLachlan says:

      I would pull the trigger on this in a heartbeat. I like Benning much more than most, but he seems to have established his ceiling as a solid, 3rd pair RHD with some offensive creativity.

      Would not be surprised to see him pop somewhere else but it won’t be here.

      I look at the Oilers D plan as follows:

      Klefbom (value contract) – Larsson (some wobble but keep 4 playoffs, perhaps more)
      Nurse (core) – Bear (new core)
      Russell (move in offseason) – Benning (happy to keep but not in long-term plans)
      Jones (the new 3rd pair Russell) – Bouchard (future PP Quarterback)

      If you deal Benning you introduce Bouchard or, more likely, try and run with Russell/Jones for the season/playoffs.

  67. ArmchairGM says:

    Ben:
    Thoughts on the Benning/Kerfoot chatter? (I’m guessing Oil throw in Khaira too, for $ and gritensity).

    I don’t hate it for next year, but painful to have Russell back on the right side for the stretch run.

    Kerfoot’s interesting. Ok, locked-in contract. Seems like a dependable 15g-30a guy. Hasn’t won as many draws this year. Seems to generally out-chance but has often been playing with killers this year.

    I really like Benning in that spot, but they’ve got players coming. And he’s had his eggs scrambled a few times in a young career.

    I’m very slightly leaning to yes.

    On the surface that looks like it could be a very nice move if he could slot in at 3C. He’s a candidate for 1LW too, I guess… I’m thinking a Jones-Persson 3rd pairing might work, or Klefbom-Persson / Jones-Larsson.

  68. ArmchairGM says:

    Ben: Thoughts on the Benning/Kerfoot chatter?

    Where are you seeing this chatter?

  69. jtblack says:

    dustrock:
    https://theathletic.com/1603866/2020/02/13/10-overlooked-trade-targets-for-the-oilers-before-the-2020-deadline/

    As usual, Young Willis bringing street knowledge.

    I like the idea of adding Mike Green, particularly if Larsson is available to grab a forward.His numbers are pretty great this year on an abysmal Wings team and he’s UFA so it’s just cash.I’m assuming his next deal will be his last and perhaps he’d be looking at a place to win.

    Just thought the ask might not be as high.

    Even if you’re not moving Larsson, you can add Green, bump Larsson down to 3rd pair and if you need to reverse that in the playoffs, you can do so.

    Or if Bear gets targeted and his minutes need to be pulled back, then Green can step in.

    I def have time for Ryan Donato …

  70. v4ance says:

    I expect Smith to cough up 4 goals to the depleted Tampa lineup and we’ll lose 5-3 with an empty netter added in. At least 3 of the goals will be ones where Smith can’t move laterally to make the save.

  71. Cassandra says:

    defmn: I can see them wanting Khaira as well. They don’t have a lot of toughness in their forwards even after adding Clifford. It still seems too good to be true but . . .

    Toronto with 49 contracts at the moment so I guess we wait and see. One thing about Benning is his numbers make him look better than the visuals imo so with Toronto that tends to move the dial.

    Two questions we should ask about any player and/or contract?

    1) If the player were placed on waivers would anyone claim them?

    2) If we traded the player, would we have to retain salary in order to get the other team to take them?

    If the answer to the first question is no, or the answer to the 2nd question is yes then that player/contract is worth less, as it were, than a 7th round pick.

    Khaira is worth less than a 7th round pick.

    As is Neal.

  72. Reja says:

    Réal Goudenyéu:
    The biggest hurdletonight is that it would probably be easier to score on a brick wall in the net with one brick missing in the middle than score on Vas.

    The German’s are coming. The German’s are coming. Leon with a one man Blitzkrieg on the Russian tonight.

  73. LadiesloveSmid says:

    I am very excited for Bouchard to ‘arrive’.

    McDavid-Draisaitl-Bouchard PP will be something.

    So much cap maneuvering to do. If they could make the money work, add a RHD (Demelo?), move on from Larsson & Benning (Kerfoot +), bring Bouch up in the Fall

  74. defmn says:

    who: I think you’ve already pointed out why they don’t want Khaira in your post.
    Just acquired Clifford, 49 contracts, etc.

    No, I think I pointed out that Clifford is not enough. Pretty sure Toronto does not want to lose to Boston should they meet in the playoffs this year and I am also pretty sure that team toughness is the issue they want to make sure doesn’t cause that to happen.

    Clifford must be looking around the room thinking to himself “who has my back if I need help” and the cupboard is pretty bare.

    Skill isn’t the only ingredient needed in a 7 game series.

  75. ArmchairGM says:

    Cassandra: I can’t see Toronto doing that, though it is slightly more likely than the other Toronto rumours.I can at least imagine them wanting Benning, but Kerfoot is too high a price.

    Johnsson then? He’s having a really, really bad year.

  76. godot10 says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    I am very excited for Bouchard to ‘arrive’.

    McDavid-Draisaitl-Bouchard PP will be something.

    So much cap maneuvering to do. If they could make the money work, add a RHD (Demelo?), move on from Larsson & Benning (Kerfoot +), bring Bouch up in the Fall

    Be careful what you wish for. Klefbom has learned to refrain from shooting a lot, and just to give it to Connor or Leon. And the Oiler PP has worked for cross seam passes and shots, and inside the Rickibox shots more than anytime in the last generation.

  77. defmn says:

    Cassandra: Two questions we should ask about any player and/or contract?

    1) If the player were placed on waivers would anyone claim them?

    2) If we traded the player, would we have to retain salary in order to get the other team to take them?

    If the answer to the first question is no, or the answer to the 2nd question is yes then that player/contract is worth less, as it were, than a 7th round pick.

    Khaira is worth less than a 7th round pick.

    As is Neal.

    Disagree. Playoffs are coming. Every year there are teams that think they lost to a lesser skilled team because their skill players got pounded and pushed around.

    Every year on this blog somebody shows why the numbers don’t confirm that opinion.

    And yet every year there are highly skilled teams that get beat by lesser skilled teams and GM’s that make moves to try and make sure that doesn’t happen again.

    If the most skilled teams always beat lesser skilled teams this topic would go away but because they don’t it doesn’t.

  78. LadiesloveSmid says:

    godot10: Be careful what you wish for.Klefbom has learned to refrain from shooting a lot, and just to give it to Connor or Leon.And the Oiler PP has worked for cross seam passes and shots, and inside the Rickibox shots more than anytime in the last generation.

    I don’t necessarily mean unleashing the Bouch bomb. He’s just very creative. From some of the video I’ve seen of him rushing the puck, he may even be another entry option on the PP.

  79. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    defmn: Disagree. Playoffs are coming. Every year there are teams that think they lost to a lesser skilled team because their skill players got pounded and pushed around.

    Every year on this blog somebody shows why the numbers don’t confirm that opinion.

    And yet every year there are highly skilled teams that get beat by lesser skilled teams and GM’s that make moves to try and make sure that doesn’t happen again.

    If the most skilled teams always beat lesser skilled teams this topic would go away but because they don’t it doesn’t.

    Last 6 Cup champs

    Blues
    Capitals
    Penguins
    Penguins
    Blackhawks
    Kings

    Blues are strong but dripping in skill

    Caps are strong but even more skilled than the Blues

    Penguins never out toughed anyone but play strong playoff hockey

    Hawks – see Penguins

    Kings – fair to argue they pushed the other team’s out of the game, but Quick, Doughty, Kopitar and (back then version) of Carter is lots of skill.

    As someone who studies playoff match ups intently last year’s TBY team wa the biggest “skill beaten by work” upset in quite a while.

    Hedman missed a game and was less than 50% and that was a big part of it.

  80. OriginalPouzar says:

    JOFA: Get it done yesterday! The quicker we get anything of value for Benson the better.

    The thoughts of many on Yamamoto a year ago, shit, 2 months ago.

    Not having plus skating does not preclude an NHL career – in particular for a player that has a high hockey IQ and high work ethic.

    He’s not “sure thing” but the door is certainly nowhere near closed.

    He’s a 2nd round pick in his 2nd year pro – expected him to be an every day NHL player by this point should be considered not fully reasonable. If he’s not an every day NHL player in 10 months from now, well, then concerns could start.

  81. OriginalPouzar says:

    blainer: I was thinking $1.2 M each so $2.4 for two years each. It’s a small bump and can bury most of it the minors if need be. I’m not sure but I think these signings would also help with the expansion draft.

    There needs to be a certain amount of players exposed at each position that are under contract and that have played a certain amount of games in the prior year – I don’t think meeting that requirement will be an issue for the Oilers but I haven’t done any research on it yet.

  82. OriginalPouzar says:

    dustrock: This sounds like a worst case scenario.We don’t even know if it was a bone bruise.

    Its not any sort of “scenario” even – its living room medical diagnosis – Dr. Drake Ramoray level stuff….

  83. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Blues
    Capitals
    Penguins
    Penguins
    Blackhawks
    Kings

    Blues are strong but dripping in skill

    Caps are strong but even more skilled than the Blues

    Penguins never out toughed anyone but play strong playoff hockey

    Hawks – see Penguins

    Kings – fair to argue they pushed the other team’s out of the game, but Quick, Doughty, Kopitar and (back then version) of Carter is lots of skill.

    As someone who studies playoff match ups intently last year’s TBY team wa the biggest “skill beaten by work” upset in quite a while.

    Hedman missed a game and was less than 50% and that was a big part of it.

    Now here’s the team’s they beat:

    BOS – haven’t been the Big Bad Bruins in a decade.

    VGK – Speedy and skilled

    NSH – driven by a very skilled Dcorps

    SJS – most consistently skilled team of the decade

    TBY – not as deep as this or last year’s teams but a team built and speed and skill.

    NYR – mostly skilled.

    Yes you need players capable of playoff hockey, which is tougher than the regular season.

    No, you don’t get a sniff unless your team is significantly skilled.

    Also,

    Let us not forget a trait all these teams had.

    Very good goaltending in the playoffs.

  84. OriginalPouzar says:

    Munny:
    KRusty did not travel with the team, won’t be available this road trip.

    per Stauffer

    He’s been skating on his own and Holland said he’s “feeling better” but doesn’t sound like he’s close – nor is Neal.

  85. OriginalPouzar says:

    Réal Goudenyéu:
    The biggest hurdletonight is that it would probably be easier to score on a brick wall in the net with one brick missing in the middle than score on Vas.

    I think he’s 17-0-2 in his last 19 or something like that.

    With that said, that bubble has to burst at some point and i think it may tonight.

  86. SwedishPoster says:

    godot10: Be careful what you wish for.Klefbom has learned to refrain from shooting a lot, and just to give it to Connor or Leon.And the Oiler PP has worked for cross seam passes and shots, and inside the Rickibox shots more than anytime in the last generation.

    Yeah it’s pretty cool what they’re doing on the PP, almost forcing plays to the most dangerous ice. Not always connecting but with A. Such skilled passers B. McDavid being a zone entry machine and C. The whole group doing great work on the early forecheck it works for a wicked PP.

  87. OriginalPouzar says:

    Is there any doubt that Derek Grant should be an Oiler by February 24?

    I think that would be a solid cheap depth acquisition.

  88. OriginalPouzar says:

    Cassandra: Two questions we should ask about any player and/or contract?

    1) If the player were placed on waivers would anyone claim them?

    2) If we traded the player, would we have to retain salary in order to get the other team to take them?

    If the answer to the first question is no, or the answer to the 2nd question is yes then that player/contract is worth less, as it were, than a 7th round pick.

    Khaira is worth less than a 7th round pick.

    As is Neal.

    The analysis of the 1st question is too simplistic – there are players that would be claimed on waivers, that teams want, but not at the cap hits.

    Teams would trade for players that they wouldn’t claim on waivers in order to manage cap implications.

  89. defmn says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Last 6 Cup champs

    Blues
    Capitals
    Penguins
    Penguins
    Blackhawks
    Kings

    Blues are strong but dripping in skill

    Caps are strong but even more skilled than the Blues

    Penguins never out toughed anyone but play strong playoff hockey

    Hawks – see Penguins

    Kings – fair to argue they pushed the other team’s out of the game, but Quick, Doughty, Kopitar and (back then version) of Carter is lots of skill.

    As someone who studies playoff match ups intently last year’s TBY team wa the biggest “skill beaten by work” upset in quite a while.

    Hedman missed a game and was less than 50% and that was a big part of it.

    You just did the teams that made it to the end. Pretty sure Toronto feels they lost because of something other than skill. Apprarently Calgary thought the same thing.

    Toughness doesn’t win you anything but a lack of it can definitely cause you to lose series.

    • Scungilli Slushy says:

      defmn: You just did the teams that made it to the end. Pretty sure Toronto feels they lost because of something other than skill. Apprarently Calgary thought the same thing.

      Toughness doesn’t win you anything but a lack of it can definitely cause you to lose series.

      Which is why I think Somi would be a very good winger for Connor. Can play C (faceoffs) and has skill and jam. I’m not sure about his defensive play, but I remain convinced Connor needs his Tikk and his Kurri.

      Domi as Tikk.

  90. OriginalPouzar says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    I am very excited for Bouchard to ‘arrive’.

    McDavid-Draisaitl-Bouchard PP will be something.

    So much cap maneuvering to do. If they could make the money work, add a RHD (Demelo?), move on from Larsson & Benning (Kerfoot +), bring Bouch up in the Fall

    Bouchard will be a staple on the PP for many years as an Oiler – with that said, I’m not sure he will be anointed PP1 so quickly next season.

    Honestly, his work on the PP in Bakersfield has been up and down – inconsistent and, frankly, overall for the season, I’m a little disappointed in his PP acumen.

    That’s not to say that he won’t be an elite PP guy in time at the NHL level but its a skill he will need to develop.

    Ethan Bear may get more PP1 time next year.

    Not to mention, the PP is like top 5 of all-time, percentage wise – even if Bouch or Bear are deemed “better than” Klef, i don’t really see it getting any more lethal that it is.

    • Leroy Draisdale says:

      I think Klefbom does an exceptional job at keeping the puck in the zone. Knows where to be and has good enough hand eye to keep the puck in .

  91. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    – Played TPC Sawgrass yesterday: haven’t had that much fun on a course in ages… We know the course from video games, and of course the coverage. Caddie awesome: he’s got a bag with a guy on the Korn Ferry Tour who won a few weeks ago, so he’ s likely going to be PGA Caddie next year

    – Just got lucky to get him. Played rentals: brand new Titlesit T-200 Irons (caddie said it’s almost cheating) , man were they good. And the new TS2 drivers. My clubs were fitted for me about 6 years ago, but the technology is just crazy good

    – 17th: 142 yards, some wind: caddie said hit 9. I said I thought 8: dumbass. Fortunately got on (to the Sunday placement! 60+ feet away). Then I hit a 9 to 14 feet. Of course 3-jack my ball, and drain the “provisional” for birdie: figures. Shot 78 from the “hybrids” about 6,400 yards: I’ll take it!

    – Course was a treat, grandstands up, closes on Monday to be ready for the tourney

    – As for Oilers: this is Drai’s opportunity to be Malkin when Crosby went down: there have been a few stretches over the years Malkin held the fort.. We will see.

    • Jethro Tull says:

      That sounds great. My Father-in-Law played St. Andrew’s old course a few years back. Similar experience with a great local caddie and awesome rentals.

      Not bad for a Farrier/cowboy that didn’t pick up a club until his late 50’s. Every club of his has a baseball grip though as he can’t close his hands enough around regular grips.

      For me, I’m awesome…..ly inconsistent in my long game, but deadly 200yds in. 140 with a 9 is in my wheel house.

  92. ArmchairGM says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Is there any doubt that Derek Grant should be an Oiler by February 24?

    I think that would be a solid cheap depth acquisition.

    His woodmoney’s are poor. Really poor.

    http://puckiq.com/woodmoney?season=20192020&tier=Elite&positions=c&team=ana&group_by=player_season_team

  93. ArmchairGM says:

    OriginalPouzar: Not to mention, the PP is like top 5 of all-time, percentage wise – even if Bouch or Bear are deemed “better than” Klef, i don’t really see it getting any more lethal that it is.

    Yup. You have to go back to the Seventies to find a better power play than the 2019-20 Oilers. Pretty impressive.

    And people here want to trade James Neal.

  94. Cassandra says:

    OriginalPouzar: The analysis of the 1st question is too simplistic – there are players that would be claimed on waivers, that teams want, but not at the cap hits.

    Teams would trade for players that they wouldn’t claim on waivers in order to manage cap implications.

    Which is exactly the point since the cap hit is an inherent part of their value? If the team doesn’t want the player at their cap hit then that player/contract, by definition, has negative value.

    Khaira has negative value.

  95. leadfarmer says:

    So supposedly the other leg injured is the same leg injured since they did an MRI on it
    Can’t trust oilers injury info

  96. Darth Tu says:

    Cassandra,

    I seem to have missed the start of this. Has Khaira been put on waivers and passed through without being claimed?

    I find that surprising, sure I’ve not been a fan of his play this year, but I’d have thought that someone would submitted a claim for him. There’s still a lot of upside in that he’s been playing the PK well.

  97. JOFA says:

    OriginalPouzar: The thoughts of many on Yamamoto a year ago, shit, 2 months ago.

    Not having plus skating does not preclude an NHL career – in particular for a player that has a high hockey IQ and high work ethic.

    He’s not “sure thing” but the door is certainly nowhere near closed.

    He’s a 2nd round pick in his 2nd year pro – expected him to be an every day NHL player by this point should be considered not fully reasonable.If he’s not an every day NHL player in 10 months from now, well, then concerns could start.

    10 months from now he’ll be plying his trade in the AHL with a different organization, or playing in Europe. An everyday NHLer is a pipe dream. Book it!

  98. blainer says:

    Not a big fan of JJ but his PK work seems to be quite good this year.

    The leafs PK is 23rd in the league. Look how the Oilers have turned things around their with special teams. Toronto might just be interested with JJ as a throw in on a trade.

    Would we then miss his PK ability …

  99. defmn says:

    Darth Tu:
    Cassandra,

    I seem to have missed the start of this.Has Khaira been put on waivers and passed through without being claimed?

    I find that surprising, sure I’ve not been a fan of his play this year, but I’d have thought that someone would submitted a claim for him.There’s still a lot of upside in that he’s been playing the PK well.

    Just the ongoing discussion about the value of certain players for those attributes that are difficult to quantify. 😉

    To me the key word is the elusive ‘balance’ and there is no precise formula because different players all bring different attributes.

    Come playoff time you need some of everything. But Dubas didn’t trade for Clifford because he thought he needed 6 more goals for the team.

    The question that remains to be answered is is his toughness enough for the slog through the playoffs should they run into a team that tries to intimidate them because I don’t see much else in that forward group if that is what happens.

    And in the playoffs any HC worth his salary is going to look for a way to exploit the weakest part of the opposing team’s makeup.

    I agree with Woodguy that skill is the most important ingredient but that doesn’t mean you don’t need a pinch of this and a dab of that in order to make the dish a success.

  100. YKOil says:

    When the skill levels are close is when toughness can play a role. Filed under the heading of who wants it more.

    Goalie voodoo, however, cares not for anything.

  101. defmn says:

    YKOil:
    When the skill levels are close is when toughness can play a role.Filed under the heading of who wants it more.

    Goalie voodoo, however, cares not for anything.

    Agreed.

  102. Ribs says:

    leadfarmer:
    So supposedly the other leg injured is the same leg injured since they did an MRI on it
    Can’t trust oilers injury info

    It’s his OTHER left leg! Waitaminute…

  103. flyfish1168 says:

    NHL player safety with Parros is rearing its inconsistent ugly side again. How on earth does Chara cross check with his stick to Gallagher’s neck a fine. Makes me sick to see how certain teams or players can get away with so much.

    • Jethro Tull says:

      How does the NHL let a person who started a company named Violent Gentlemen that features clothing with designs that glorify injuring people run their safety department that directly oversees such things?

      I won’t even mention the stunning lack of diversity of the models on the website……

  104. N64 says:

    Ribs: It’s his OTHER left leg! Waitaminute…

    Didn’t you use to have that on the other side?

    What?

    Never mind.

  105. Oil2Oilers says:

    ain’t no party, this ain’t no disco, this ain’t no foolin’ around.

    Not to Crow about a fine musical allusion…

    The ain’t no party like an S Club party

    … I will show myself the door

  106. Reja says:

    We desperately need to take advantage of the Bolts injuries. Riley and Josh are hungry for contracts I expect a great game from these two. Giddy up boys.

  107. meanashell11 says:

    leadfarmer,

    you realize those scans are basically full body. May as well take a look at the other leg at the same time.

  108. who says:

    Cassandra: Two questions we should ask about any player and/or contract?

    1) If the player were placed on waivers would anyone claim them?

    2) If we traded the player, would we have to retain salary in order to get the other team to take them?

    If the answer to the first question is no, or the answer to the 2nd question is yes then that player/contract is worth less, as it were, than a 7th round pick.

    Khaira is worth less than a 7th round pick.

    As is Neal.

    Agree with you on Neal
    Khaira has some value. Probably mid round pick or bottom of roster player.

  109. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    who,

    JJ for Nick Ritchie from ANA.

    Yay or nay?

  110. who says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    who,

    JJ for Nick Ritchie from ANA.

    Yay or

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    who,

    JJ for Nick Ritchie from ANA.

    Yay or nay?

    Yay.
    But I don’t see Anaheim making that trade.

  111. who says:

    JOFA: 10 months from now he’ll be plying his trade in the AHL with a different organization, or playing in Europe. An everyday NHLer is a pipe dream. Book it!

    Pretty early to make this call isn’t it?
    You could be right. You could also end up with a lot of egg on your face.

  112. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    who,

    I’ve noticed he’s been on the trade blocks there for a couple years.

    With both players seemingly needing a change in scenery and The Dementor probably giving a vote of confidence to JJ, it’s possible. ANA would shed salary in a 1-for-1, even though it’s been said that they’re willing to take on cap for assets to facilitate their looming rebuild.

    I like JJ, but I’d do it.

  113. blainer says:

    I’m giving Benson one more year and off season of training and skating before I write off the NHL for him.

    He lost a lot of his developing years to a very difficult injury to get through. He has the talent and I think at this point patience is required.

    I will say though if we are talking about the same problems this time next year I think his opportunity with this team will have passed him by.

  114. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Two nice plays by Bear in the d-zone right corner, first using the body to angle off the TBL player then his stick to move the puck past another player afterward.

    More, please.

  115. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    How.
    The.
    Hell.
    Did.
    Johnson.
    Miss.
    That?!

  116. Oil2Oilers says:

    I am familiar with this fire drill hockey style

  117. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Haas flying out there tonight. Crisp, straight lines on the puck and just finished his check on Big Rig.

  118. Chelios is a Dinosaur says:

    “Goalie will have to steal one.”

    Um… How bout this one?

  119. npanciroli says:

    TB outclasses us so hard even with those injuries.

  120. drglen says:

    pretty much riding the drei line time wise.

  121. Darth Tu says:

    This looks like one of those nights where it’s going to be a struggle to hit 20 shots on net… only 3 shots on goal so far to TB’s 9.

  122. jake70 says:

    Oilers need to play simple road game..no fancy stuff that can lead to dangerous events the other way.

  123. leadfarmer says:

    meanashell11:
    leadfarmer,

    you realize those scans are basically full body. May as well take a look at the other leg at the same time.

    I admire the conviction in your voice of how right you think you are b
    But there is no whole body MRI
    In fact when you do a knee MRI you do just the knee and just one knee to get the detail needed
    The only whole body MRI you can do is a fetus

  124. drglen says:

    take that shot archie

  125. drglen says:

    Haas at times looks like our most dangerous player tonight.. if he’s going to take a step, tonight would be a good night.

  126. drglen says:

    Khaira so easily dispossed there.. cmon we need better than that.

  127. jake70 says:

    drglen:
    Khaira so easily dispossed there.. cmon we need better than that.

    Noticed that…he basically said…here ya go…I don’t want it…. man

  128. Bulging Twine says:

    Tampa Bay announcers are real easy to listen to

    Almost like a baseball feel to them

    Pleasant

  129. LadiesloveSmid says:

    TB missing 3 of their 5 best Fs + a top 4D are on a different planet than Edmonton. This is why you don’t buy on any rentals this year.

  130. Bulging Twine says:

    I’m enjoying this higher camera height

    allowing to see more of the ice/plays

  131. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Nice shot, Kelf.

  132. drglen says:

    good shot klef.. our offense might have to come that way this game.

  133. jake70 says:

    Jujhar = anti-possession

  134. Ice Sage says:

    pts2pndr:
    Vancouver is tailored for regular season. They will not get out of the first round. There is regrettably a vast difference between regular season and playoffs. Vancouver is talented and fun to watch. Their talent will be allowed to be mugged in the playoffs/second season.
    # crap league
    # tradition unhampered by progress

    No way – they have the MVP goaler, remember?

  135. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Liked how Yammer took a hit to make a play.

    Also, they moved the puck with pace after the zone entry nicely.

  136. Ben says:

    The Oilers should be awarded a point for getting out of that period tied.

  137. hunter1909 says:

    Ben:
    The Oilers should be awarded a point for getting out of that period tied.

    That’s my hope. An OTL lol

    • Darth Tu says:

      Ye of little faith. Smith wins it in the shootout.

      • hunter1909 says:

        Bolts are half way to being an excellent team.

        On the other hand I continue to hold this mystical belief that Western teams are so much tougher and stronger come playoff time unless they’re facing Crosby level opposition.

    • BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

      I’m surprised you’re still tuned in and not watching the ESPN scoreboard by now.

  138. hunter1909 says:

    pts2pndr:
    Vancouver is tailored for regular season. They will not get out of the first round. There is regrettably a vast difference between regular season and playoffs. Vancouver is talented and fun to watch. Their talent will be allowed to be mugged in the playoffs/second season.
    # crap league
    # tradition unhampered by progress

    Who is this, mini-Harpers Hair or something?

  139. drglen says:

    good job hanging in there… there will be opportunity for greasy goals tonight.

    after 1 I’d say Benson replaces Khaira next game… unless they win, in which case Tipp wont do anything.

    Keep working.. we’ll get a powerplay eventually. Might just steal a point or even a win here.

  140. tcho says:

    Oilers hanging around in this game like a stale fart.

  141. drglen says:

    This Cameron Gaunce fellow, interview…. sounds like history professor… very articulate. Not your typically hockey drawl. This guy could be a broadcaster.

  142. hunter1909 says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    I’m surprised you’re still tuned in and not watching the ESPN scoreboard by now.

    lol I know

    The score has to be 0-1 or something before I descend to that.

    0-0 and it’s still anyones game.

  143. Darth Tu says:

    On the plus side I was wrong on the shot count thing too, we made it to 10 by the end of the first period. On track for 30 🙂

    Onward and upward!

  144. hunter1909 says:

    Darth Tu:
    On the plus side I was wrong on the shot count thing too, we made it to 10 by the end of the first period. On track for 30 🙂

    Onward and upward!

    Speaking of numbers, what’s the current situation in the Neal/Lucic sweepstakes?

  145. hunter1909 says:

    Bulging Twine:
    Tampa Bay announcers are real easy to listen to

    Almost like a baseball feel to them

    Pleasant

    Am an Oilers following fan who hates the Oilers broadcast to the point I am forced to always go for the out of town feed even if it’s Calgary. And Calgary has got to have the most putrid broadcast team imaginable.

    • OilClog says:

      Weird, they use the same broadcast team when playing against each other, must be the commercials.

  146. Dr. Taboggan says:

    On a positive note: Sens up 2-0 over Zona.

  147. hunter1909 says:

    Bulging Twine:
    Tampa Bay announcers are real easy to listen to

    Almost like a baseball feel to them

    Pleasant

    Tampa’s Clearwater Beach there are worse places to hang out before the game starts at 7pm. Lots of ice to help get over the sunshine. And coconut milk.

  148. Oil2Oilers says:

    I have been a fan of Billie Eilish since her first EP and was recently floored by her Oscars performance. I did not know where she would go with the Bond theme. She went classic and absolutely killed it;

    Much better than the crap on the broadcast https://youtu.be/GB_S2qFh5lU

    • hungoverman says:

      Oil2Oilers:
      I have been a fan of Billie Eilish since her first EP and was recently floored by her Oscars performance. I did not know where she would go with the Bond theme. She went classic and absolutely killed it;

      Much better than the crap on the broadcast https://youtu.be/GB_S2qFh5lU

      Oil2Oilers:
      I have been a fan of Billie Eilish since her first EP and was recently floored by her Oscars performance. I did not know where she would go with the Bond theme. She went classic and absolutely killed it;

      Much better than the crap on the broadcast https://youtu.be/GB_S2qFh5lU

      The song is great. My 15 yr old daughter loves her. I like her stuff a lot. Going to her show in April in Vancouver. Cannot wait.

  149. OriginalPouzar says:

    Leroy Draisdale:
    I think Klefbom does an exceptional job at keeping the puck in the zone. Knows where to be and has good enough hand eye to keep the puck in .

    He has grown leaps and bounds in that area this season – I agree.

  150. drglen says:

    Bear and Nurse ice time up this game.

  151. hunter1909 says:

    jake70:
    Jujhar = anti-possession

    That’s a player I’m glad the professionals are more willing than us fans to see what he develops into.

    He could still come through in the playoffs. I picked him for my playoff dark horse scorer this season, because he’s big and rangy and in all that tight checking he might just suddenly start to bang in goals from the slot : p

  152. Darth Tu says:

    hunter1909: Speaking of numbers, what’s the current situation in the Neal/Lucic sweepstakes?

    Lucic currently has 6 goals and Neal has 19. Neal needs at least 21 goals for the conditions to come into effect that would send a pick to the Flames. Or Lucic needs to go on a heater and score a bunch before the end of the season if Neal gets his 21 minimum goals.

    Basically, the Neal injury is potentially helping the Oilers at the moment if we’re not wanting to lose the 3rd.

  153. drglen says:

    nice move and shot Kass. Good work.

  154. Darth Tu says:

    Dr. Taboggan:
    On a positive note: Sens up 2-0 over Zona.

    A further positive, the Leafs are losing 2-0 to the Stars.

  155. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Last 6 Cup champs

    Blues
    Capitals
    Penguins
    Penguins
    Blackhawks
    Kings

    Blues are strong but dripping in skill

    Caps are strong but even more skilled than the Blues

    Penguins never out toughed anyone but play strong playoff hockey

    Hawks – see Penguins

    Kings – fair to argue they pushed the other team’s out of the game, but Quick, Doughty, Kopitar and (back then version) of Carter is lots of skill.

    As someone who studies playoff match ups intently last year’s TBY team wa the biggest “skill beaten by work” upset in quite a while.

    Hedman missed a game and was less than 50% and that was a big part of it.

    I’m curious about your take on the Blues. They have some nice players, but for me only Tarasenko and Pietrangelo are high skill.

    They have been a grinding type of team forever. Thomas is a guy I like, but dripping in skill I’m not sure. Very good team for sure, high talent?

    If you feel like it please give me your take.

    • BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

      Schenn has nice hands and doesn’t mind getting rough along the boards. We should have traded Eberle for him when LA was selling.

  156. hunter1909 says:

    Darth Tu: Basically, the Neal injury is potentially helping the Oilers at the moment if we’re not wanting to lose the 3rd.

    Neal earned his trade value when he scored all those early goals that propelled the Oilers into 2nd place in the West. Streaky scorer. He’s worth keeping on the team, he is really good when he’s scoring.

    • Darth Tu says:

      Agreed, I think even with losing the 3rd we still won that trade hands down. I hope he’s back and is potting goals repeatedly.

  157. drglen says:

    that was an awfully awkward save.

  158. drglen says:

    yay a powerplay… fair call.

  159. drglen says:

    danger there… Jones getting run around and Kass not with the best clears….. lucky to survive that sequence.

  160. OriginalPouzar says:

    blainer:
    I’m giving Benson one more year and off season of training and skating before I write off the NHL for him.

    He lost a lot of his developing years to a very difficult injury to get through. He has the talent and I think at this point patience is required.

    I will say though if we are talking about the same problems this time next year I think his opportunity with this team will have passed him by.

    I would hope that no 2nd round draft pick would be written off during his 2nd year of pro – in particular given an excellent rookie pro season (even if the 2nd one hasn’t show a ton of express growth – development is NOT a straight line).

  161. drglen says:

    Dam… they scored. 4th line, could not control the puck for a breakout.

  162. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Cassandra: Two questions we should ask about any player and/or contract?

    1) If the player were placed on waivers would anyone claim them?

    2) If we traded the player, would we have to retain salary in order to get the other team to take them?

    If the answer to the first question is no, or the answer to the 2nd question is yes then that player/contract is worth less, as it were, than a 7th round pick.

    Khaira is worth less than a 7th round pick.

    As is Neal.

    This is logical, but why do ill advised trades happen?

    People do things for reasons other than smrt.

  163. OriginalPouzar says:

    Very good shift by the “2nd line” to come back with an offensive pressure shift and some pucks to the net – important to come back with that after the goal against.

  164. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Is it just me or does Smith lose his stick A LOT?

  165. drglen says:

    OK… Russel or Khaira gotta come out next game, and play very little this game.. More time for Haas

  166. OmJo says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    Is it just me or does Smith lose his stick A LOT?

    I’ve lost count.

  167. drglen says:

    Oil gotta dig deep here… kind of a defining moment in my view… down a goal, not much happening, on the road.. no Connor…. who came to play tonight? ! Kass and Archibold and the Drei Line so far. Klef Nurse and Bear… everybody else…. you’ve got to outwork the opposition and I don’t see it yet.

  168. OriginalPouzar says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    TB missing 3 of their 5 best Fs + a top 4D are on a different planet than Edmonton. This is why you don’t buy on any rentals this year.

    Of course, Oilers are missing two of their top 5 forwards (including the best player in the world) and their #5D.

  169. drglen says:

    JONES>.!!!!! GREAT GOAL!!!!!

  170. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Jonesy!

    The rover!

  171. OriginalPouzar says:

    Larsson off the post – he’s playing well again.

    Jones ties it up – gets his own rebound – I was more impressed with his zone exit transition by carry.

  172. Ice Sage says:

    That IS a nice goal – D activates, against the grain… these TB announcers are real hockey aficionados.

  173. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nuge with yet another point – he’s 4th in the NHL in scoring in 2020.

    Yamamoto, of course, causing a ruckus in front of the net.

  174. norm_klassen says:

    Jones is the future he moves the puck well !!! Defending will come

  175. OriginalPouzar says:

    Drai just keeps on racking up the points – they just keep coming.

  176. jake70 says:

    Yamamoto is such a force on the forecheck.

  177. drglen says:

    Shorthanded against… that is a killer… a killer. that’s on Drei.. bad play.

  178. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Good Gourde, Yanni can skate.

  179. OriginalPouzar says:

    Ughh, Drai, poor decision there.

  180. Ice Sage says:

    Good Gourde!

  181. Ice Sage says:

    drglen:
    Shorthanded against… that is a killer… a killer. that’s on Drei.. bad play.

    Didn’t matter much last game, but that was the Hawks…

  182. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Looking at TBL players on the bench, I see a lot of thick necks.
    #advancedscouting

  183. jake70 says:

    Like I said, play a simple road game…..make sure of every pass. These shorties against are getting tired.

  184. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    TB missing 3 of their 5 best Fs + a top 4D are on a different planet than Edmonton. This is why you don’t buy on any rentals this year.

    This is the team that went out 4 straight last year.

  185. drglen says:

    I think Haas is having trouble marking guys in the D zone when there is pressure… he may just be a little ‘light’ and gets bounced out of space and off of people. I’ve yet to really see him neutralize somebody in the D zone and it’s noticeable tonight.

  186. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    To be fair, Drai has a 50:50 shot (or better) making that high risk play where two defenders are bearing down on him. It wasn’t a poor decision so much as a shitty outcome. Most players can’t pull that off but I’m willing to give LD the benefit of the doubt on that one.

    And credit to Paquette for closing the gap so quickly. TBL role players are tenacious.

  187. Mr DeBakey says:

    JOFA,

    Helmet too tight there bud.
    Bensoning sucks for sure.

  188. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    I do like how Cave can stand up to a hit and make a play. Wish he had better hands to finish, though.

  189. drglen says:

    Ice tilting against us here.. we are fading….

  190. OriginalPouzar says:

    Massive shift for the “2nd line” – all sorts of pressure and chances.

    Coming close.

  191. who says:

    Drai trying to do too much at the offensive blueline again
    When you’re the last man back you can’t make that play unless there is a clear lane. Your whole team is standing still at the blueline.
    Also have to wonder where Klefbom was on that earlier pass to the point. Changing maybe?
    Colby Cave has made a couple of very nice plays tonight.

  192. Ice Sage says:

    Oilers acquitting themselves well so far, IMO.
    Tampa is deep.

  193. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    who,

    Is it just me or does Caveman remind you of Bucky-lite?

  194. drglen says:

    big save smith! !!!!! bails out Nurse there.

  195. OriginalPouzar says:

    Down by a goal heading to the third in Tampa Bay – I’ll take it.

    Hope the boys can grind out a tying goal in the 3rd.

  196. Washingtron says:

    Is Jujhar’s full last name Khairacantgetitout? I hear it every time they say his name. Weird.

  197. drglen says:

    game still within reach… . . Myabe the shehan line will get a bounce. Tipp should just roll the two lines here if he can…

  198. OilClog says:

    Did that dude really just say Brady Tkeithsboy is the best within 5 ft of the net!?!?! What is this dude doing on my TV Gordie Price almighty

  199. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Interesting take by Schenn saying that Tippett and Playfair keep open constant lines of communication, as opposed to leaving a guy in the dark. Hold you accountable but keep things personable.

    *paraphrased impression of interview with Gene.

  200. Lowetide says:

    After Two:

    2-1 Tampa Bay (all goals in the second)
    27-17 Tampa Bay shots (13-7 in the second)
    39-25 Tampa Bay Corsi five on five (19-10 in the second)
    ==

    Almost exactly the game I thought we’d see. Only surprise for me is that Colby Cave line, they have played well two games in a row now.

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