2019-20 Preseason Game Three: Canucks at Oilers

by Lowetide

Sooner or later, the veterans are going to play a preseason game and at that point we’ll be able to drill down on what opening night Oilers might look like. Until then, the checkers and the kids and the Euros will push for the support jobs, few though they be at this point.

While you’re thinking about the opening night group, keep this in mind: Injuries have had an impact early and that could continue.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, we are celebrating our 2-year anniversary this week. To mark the occasion, you can get 40% off subscriptions until Sept. 19 here.

  • New Lowetide: Why Kailer Yamamoto’s delayed training camp may benefit his Oilers career
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Q&A: Brandon Manning on how his contract is hurting him, proving his worth at camp and being a mentor
  • Jonathan Willis: Four players who helped, three who hurt their Oilers hopes in Edmonton’s second preseason game
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: How an offseason adding more pop in his stick and skates has James Neal primed for first Oilers season
  • Lowetide: A big night for Oilers defencemen Joel Persson, William Lagesson and Evan Bouchard
  • Lowetide: Preseason 2019-20: The Oilers’ journey to respectability begins
  • Lowetide: Handicapping Oilers prospect progress: The development of Ethan Bear, Caleb Jones and William Lagesson
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Eight key questions for the Oilers to solve at training camp
  • Jonathan Willis: Predicting the winners of the Oilers’ top-six and top-nine forward jobs out of camp
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: In, out or on the bubble: Breaking down positional battles at Oilers camp
  • New Lowetide: Evan Bouchard and the Calder Trophy: The Oilers’ pursuit of the elusive rookie award
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Alex Chiasson prepares to return to scoring form for Edmonton Oilers
  • Jonathan Willis: Kyle Brodziak defied the odds, and then the Oilers, to carve out a significant NHL career
  • Lowetide: Can Mikko Koskinen and Mike Smith stop enough pucks for the Oilers?
  • Lowetide: Shutdown success by Darnell Nurse and Adam Larsson is a key for the Oilers in 2019-20.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Even if he’s unsure about his return, Oilers’ Connor McDavid looks and sounds like his old self
  • Lowetide: RE 19-20: How can the Oilers’ bottom six close the gap in goal differential?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Kailer Yamamoto and Tyler Benson address respective highs and lows as Oilers rookie camp begins
  • Jonathan Willis: Riley Sheahan is a prudent signing by the Oilers in more ways than one
  • Jonathan Willis: Oilers’ defensive hopes will rest on the new shutdown pair of Darnell Nurse and Adam Larsson
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: With Evan Bouchard as the headliner, here are the players to watch at Oilers rookie camp
  • Lowetide: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and the configuration of the Oilers second line
  • Lowetide: Connor McDavid’s 2019-20: Pushing for 50 goals while Dave Tippett loads up the Oilers’ top line
  • Lowetide: Estimating reasonable expectations for the 2019-20 Edmonton Oilers: A difficult journey
  • Jonathan Willis: How much money will Darnell Nurse make on his next NHL contract?
  • Corey Pronman: Oilers No. 9 farm system.
  • Lowetide: Oilers coach Dave Tippett might have to take drastic action in order to find a second outscoring line in 2019-20
  • Lowetide: Oilers top 20 prospects summer 2019.

CERTAIN OILERS [18]

One thing that should be mentioned (and I noted in the ‘reasonable expectations’ series) is that we could see someone from this list traded before or during the season. The impressive showing by several young blue may force a deal, especially if the one of the young skill forwards doesn’t step up.

UNCERTAIN OILERS [15]

I’m not sure anyone on this list is out of the race, although Yamamoto’s inactivity probably means he’ll start in Bakersfield. Good early camps by these men has resulted in this training camp holding our interest more than in the past.

DISTANT BELLS [12]

Burdasov just arrived, I don’t believe he’ll make the team (there’s no time). McLeod, Manning and Samorukov are all doing well, Malone and Hebig are showing flashes. Interestin group this year, most have played well.

How many of these men do we see tonight? I’ll suggest the Nuge and Haas lines, maybe the Sheahan line with a different right winger. The McDavid line? Talk to the doctors.

OILERS LEADING SCORERS

  1. Tomas Jurco 1, 1-1-2
  2. Cooper Marody 1, 0-2-2
  3. Patrick Russell 2, 1-1-2
  4. James Neal 1, 1-0-1
  5. RNH 1, 1-0-1

TOI LEADERS (DEFENSE) (FIVE-ON-FIVE)

  1. Oscar Klefbom 21:25
  2. Darnell Nurse 20:06
  3. Joel Persson 19:42
  4. Evan Bouchard 18:52
  5. Adam Larsson 18:46
  6. William Lagesson 18:46

SAM GAGNER

Lots of talk about Sam Gagner and his spot on the roster, I think he’s a lock but some are questioning the idea. For me, the Oilers as a group are painfully shy of proven NHL offense, and Gagner has been a productive player in this area. Mad holes without the puck, but even last year in Edmonton he delivered 1.74 points per 60 at five-on-five after coming over from the Canucks. The Oilers will replace him but the wise move is to wait until a suitable winger has proven himself worthy. Edmonton’s wingers aren’t a quality group, Gagner is the best offensive option past Leon Draisaitl and James Neal. In fact, Gagner was more productive in Edmonton than Neal a year ago. The Oilers will find someone more efficient but until then Gagner should get a regular shift. In my opinion.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, TSN1260, we truly have a universal show today. Frank Seravalli from TSN will talk CBA, preseason, Jets are a mess and some Oilers nuggets. Paul Sir, basketball legend, will discuss the FIBA 3 x 3 WOMEN’s event this weekend at West Edmonton Mall Ice Palace. Plus, and this is going to be fabulous, I’ll be joined by Andre Costopoulos, Dean of Students at the U of A, and anthropologist. He will be doing a lecture called “The Evolution of the Baseball Fight”. Costopoulos using evolutionary theory to discuss how and why the baseball fight has become a ritualized and formalized part of the sport. The lecture will take place on Sept. 21, 11:30 – 12:30. 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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Kinger_Oil.redux

– My working theory untill proven otherwise (despite the tepid verbage from Tippett, who is hopeful he is ready for game 1/ and/or a pres-season game), is that CmD won’t be ready for game 1, and Kassian won’t be 100% either, or even if they are, with no pre-season, will need to get up to speed, they need to bring in another scorer, which is why they have tried out Burdasov

– I think Drai and Nuge (untill CmD is 100%), the team needs 4 wingers who can score, and between Burd, Neal,, Nygard, Chiasson etc this is how they patch it together.

– And they’d rather keep Benson on the farm for now as well

– Also, while I can’t quibble per se: it’s old-school, I know a guy who knows a guy, he’s a scorer, top-6, type stuff. No analytics group still, just a gut feel last-minute con job being fed to us IMO

hunter1909

Hunter1909’s Official 2019-20 Death March™

Entries welcome between now and the first puck drop of the 2019-20 season(October 2)

Here’s how you play: Guess how many points the Oilers get in the regular season.

That’s it!

Tie break: How many regular season goals does JP score for his new Finnish team?

McNuge93

LT, do you not think at some point soon in pre-season they’ll play Drai and Kass, but sit out McD. Maybe Drai at centre and add a LW to the line.
Also, I agree Burdisov is in tough. Maybe not fair to judge as we haven’t even seen him play yet but as you say he is already behind the others and needs to adjust to the smaller ice. Besides we already have 2 big, slow but reasonably productive (fingers crossed) wingers in Chiasson and Neal. I’d rather add guys that are quicker.

OriginalPouzar

Coach did say that Drai is likely to play tonight and tomorrow and, given Nuge isn’t playing tonight, I think we may see Drai with Nygard as we know Nygard is getting a shot “up the lineup tonight” (and Burdasov is getting that shot tomorrow).

From the verbal, things are trending VERY well for McDavid to be in the lineup opening night and its seeming something what likely that he will play a game (or two) next week.

Excellent!

Looking forward to seeing Mikko in goal tonight although, I recall him being just awful in exhibition last year and then money for his first 10 starts (give or take).

OriginalPouzar

This is not what I want in some/many ways, but what I think we will see (or how its currently trending):

Drai/McDavid/Kass

Nygard/Nuge/Neal

Khaira/Sheahan/Archibald

Granlund/Cave/Gagner

Jurco/Chiasson

I don’t actually see Chiasson sitting but I just don’t know where to put him – potentially for Archibald.

Marody may “win” that 4C spot pushing Cave to the bench and Jurco on waivers. I think Jurco has a shot at the 2LW if Nygard isn’t able to show much in his shots.

Haas will go down for a month for “acclimation”.

Maybe Russell over Jurco – I don’t think either would get claimed.

Nurse/Larsson

Klef/Persson

Russell/Benning

Manning

———————-

Benson/Marody/Yamamoto (if healthy)

Russell/Malone/Joe G.

Maksimov/McLeod/Currie

Safin/Esposito/Vesey

Peluso/etc.

Lagesson/Bear

Jones/Bouchard

Samorukov/Day

Lowe/Desharnais/Kulevich

Ughh, can’t sit Lowe – I have him with Bouchard on the 2nd pair given there is bound to be an injury somewhere pushing everyone up a level.

Primetime

As Pouzar mentioned at the end of last thread:

Chabot getts 8×8 from the Sens.

Does that not seem like a lot? Or is that a “smart” contract given this summers RFA woes?

Did that just take away any chance of getting Nurse on the Morrisey contract?

Andy Dufresne

Google Translate of the Anton Burdasov interview yesrterday:

“Anton Burdasov signed a viewing contract with Edmonton.”

Is his Russian nickname Handsome Gido ? …

Burdasov… “I went to tell my grandchildren that I was not afraid. I went to tell my grandchildren that by the age of 27 I started to follow a diet and realized that high-level hockey does not tolerate anything superfluous. Went to look at McDavid and get out of your comfort zone, and this always makes you understand what you are really worth. Handsome”

Does this next paragraph sound like like a Russian Mark Messier, or what? …
.
“Burdasov accustomed to the fact that he could ideally throw from the hands that from the far leg, that from the neighbor, that from two, and so we have very few who can, but still one throw is not enough…. He can gesture in the corners, winning two-thirds of martial arts…. He can cut corners, getting out on a nickle…. Will he put it all together? The devil knows him, but he knows how.”

Or Is he more James Neal? …

“Edmonton has where and with whom to play. Probably, James Neal , quite similar in skills and background to Burdasov, will be registered in the first link. But in the second, the field is not plowed. Nugent Hopkins is a very good dispatcher who has never had a real sniper in his professional hockey partners. Of the competitors are Chaisson and Nygord , but if they are not removed, then there is nothing to do overseas.”

OriginalPouzar

Puljujarvi with a cross? Shouldn’t we keep him “on the 50” until December 1? He’s got a QO that he could sign……

Oh, I’m just kidding!

OriginalPouzar

RonnieB:
OriginalPouzar,
A couple of questions…

Burdasov is a left shot but plays RW. Isn’t he more likely to be considered for Kassian’s spot in the top 6 than the 2LW job ? As a side note, it seems to be a thing for Russians that play their off wing ( Yakupov, Slepyshev, etc. ) to be attractive to the Oilers.

If Dustin B. retires, will that be like a Datsyuk situation where the Jets are still stuck with his Cap hit ?

Sorry to paste but I wanted to answer the direct question in a thread where its likely to be seen.

1) Good point on Burdasov being a right wingers. Sure, I guess he’s applying for 1RW as opposed to 2LW but, either way, he’s applying for a “top 6 winger spot”. If he wins a right wing spot in the top 6, that likely pushes Neal to the left side which I’m not enthused about.

2) Nope, if he retires, his cap hit disappears – the cap hit only stays on retirement if the player signed at a signing at of 35 (or over).

Jethro Tull

I think it’s important to keep Gagner also in the picture.

Alpine

Starting to wonder what the plan is for Chiasson. I know he was signed before Neal came in but it’s a confusing re-signing if he’s not even in the top 9.

I would say they might have a trade agreement if camp shakes out to the point where he doesn’t have a regular spot. But it was reported he wanted to stay in Edmonton and probably left some money on the table to do so.

Maybe Holland’s trying to showcase Kassian on that top line.

LadiesloveSmid

Chabot is just violin I play thinking of 16th overall at the 2015 draft.

Barzal – Connor – Chabot, Boeser and Konecny a few picks later.

Good to know EDM had their eyes on Joel Eriksson Ek, though.

JJS

It seems strange to bring Big Burd over at this point of camp

The chances of him making the team after missing the first week must be incredibly small

But what a win that would be if he can contribute

And the quotes! Man, we could use us some good quotes this year…

M00se1197

There has to be a trade brewing here somewhere, there are too many players who could theoretically take a place on the roster.

Something is going to shake free before the first puck drops.

teddyturnbuckle

Gagner can play all day on third and fourth line I just don’t want to see him in the top six. I’ve seen that movie a 100 times and it doesn’t end well.

Jaxon

On Oilers TV:
Tippett on Khaira:
“You know, he’s a big, strong guy. He’s a presence on the ice. For a big man like that he’s got decent hands around the net. He’s a guy, I’ve had a lot of guys like that, that you get them in a role, or you put them in a spot on the team and he feels ownership to that role and they really dig in. I think there is lots of upside on him yet. I really think there is upside on him. But we want to get him in a real defined role where he’s got a real purpose on our team. I had 2 or 3 talks with him this summer about that situation. So we just got to get him stabilized because I think he can be a real valuable player for us.”

“I think there is a confidence with players. You get in, instead of every day you’re nervous about if you’re going to be in the lineup or if you’re going to be there. There’s a confidence you walk in that you play with. For a guy like that, when they get to that confidence level they’ve earned that confidence because of their play. I like JJ. I think he’s a good player. I think he’ll be a real good player on our team this year. We’re hoping. There’s still going to be some tinkering on where he fits with it. But there is lots of upside on him. I think he’ll be a real good players for us.”

31 Thoughts podcast:
Nugent-Hopkins on Khaira :
spoke about building building chemistry through consistency prior to the question
What type of winger compliments your game the most?
“I still see myself as a playmaker first, so a guy who can find himself in the right spot. I think that’s always been important to me… I’ll go get it if I need to I’ll go try to make a move to create some space but I want to be able to move the puck to a guy who’s ready in the right position. I think for me personally, I also like when we’re all three connected. So 3 forwards. I always want to be kinda moving, I always wanna be connected, I wanna make little plays. And then I feel like that opens things up, you start to lose guys and as soon as you find somebody open you’ve got to find them in the right spot.
I think a fast goal scoring winger is something that I’ve always somebody kind of enjoyed playing with.”

Who do you feel you really clicked with?
“I had some time with Juj last year and actually Jesse, I mean you guys know what’s going on with Jesse, so I don’t know what the story with Jesse is going to be this year. But me, Jujhar and Jesse, we had about 10 games, probably the second half the season together, and I think we probably did score or do something good every game. So we did have chemistry. That was kind of a thing. I mean, me and Juj would go get the puck. He’s a big body, he’s going to create space and time. But he’s also, he’s smart, he’s a very smart player. He’s played center a lot so he knows what it’s like and we’d always be supporting each other and then things would open up and I mean Jesse’s, he’s a goal scorer really, I mean you get him the puck in the right situation and he’s going to put it in. We just connected. We felt comfortable together and unfortunately we didn’t stay together as long as I had hoped.”

I think we’ll see this before preseason is over:
Khaira – Nugent-Hopkins – Neal

doritogrande

I’ve been wondering if Burdasov’s PTO might extend past training camp. We’ve done it before with a dude who was as old as the hills (I believe it was someone named Kelly?) a couple of years ago and then subsequently released him well into the season.

Might be an option here if we don’t have enough time for a proper looksee. It also keeps someone here instead of Bakersfield in case of emergency, and has a contract slot available on the 50-man roster.

drglen

Id like to see Benson make the team. He’s ready.

I don’t think they see marody as an NHL centre.

Is it just me or is nobody even talking about yamamoto. Trade?

Like the khaira archibald sheehan line in tact..

Lagesson looks good. Bear looks good. Persson looks good with Klefbom. the one that doesn’t look great so far is Adam larsson. Bouchard will start down and get called up I think

jp

Kinger_Oil.redux:

– Also, while I can’t quibble per se: it’s old-school, I know a guy who knows a guy, he’s a scorer, top-6, type stuff. No analytics group still, just a gut feel last-minute con job being fed to us IMO

LT posted his points NHLE (38) and Ricki posted his goals NHLE (32, 24, 25 the past 3 seasons).

I don’t know what type of analytics you’d need beyond that to tell you that Burdasov could be a better scorer than most of the players in camp.

A quick scan of his Wiki or HockeyDB page would tell you (if you were listening) he might be able to help a team. Interpret things as you like, but I have a hard time seeing the path to this being a “gut feel last-minute con job being fed to us”.

dustrock

Primetime:
As Pouzar mentioned at the end of last thread:

Chabot getts 8×8 from the Sens.

Does that not seem like a lot?Or is that a “smart” contract given this summers RFA woes?

Did that just take away any chance of getting Nurse on the Morrisey contract?

Think it’s a signing Ottawa had to make long-term, given all the players they’ve lost in the last few years and Melnyk’s recent troubles.

Is Chabot worth that? Well, he had a heck of a season last year and they’re locking him in for 8 years.

Man, that Draisaitl contract I didn’t like at the time by probably $1m/year sure is looking better and better.

Jaxon

jp: LT posted his points NHLE (38) and Ricki posted his goals NHLE (32, 24, 25 the past 3 seasons).

Nope, that was me:

“JAXON says:
September 18, 2019 at 11:09 pm
Burdasov’s Goal NHLe for the last 3 years:
2016-17: 32 goals
2017-18: 24 goals
2018-19: 25 goals
Don’t know if he can bring all that to the NHL, but yes please.”

Ricki did post his even strength goals NHLe though. (23, 9, 12)

defmn

Jaxon:

I think we’ll see this before preseason is over:
Khaira – Nugent-Hopkins – Neal

That is my hope as well. Balance.

drglen

Gagner should not make opening night roster. Keep him as a security call up or press box player. Under no circumstance should he keep young fast skilled talent out of the lineup.

dustrock

One feels the RFA situation must get done soon for Tkachuk, Connor, Laine etc, no?

God I sure hope McDavid is truly healthy because the Oilers have a chance to make some noise early if Rantanen, Tkachuk, Connor/Laine stay out long term.

Jaxon

Primetime:
As Pouzar mentioned at the end of last thread:

Chabot getts 8×8 from the Sens.

Does that not seem like a lot?Or is that a “smart” contract given this summers RFA woes?

Did that just take away any chance of getting Nurse on the Morrisey contract?

dustrock: Think it’s a signing Ottawa had to make long-term, given all the players they’ve lost in the last few years and Melnyk’s recent troubles.

Is Chabot worth that?Well, he had a heck of a season last year and they’re locking him in for 8 years.

Man, that Draisaitl contract I didn’t like at the time by probably $1m/year sure is looking better and better.

I don’t think he’s a comparable to many players. He got 41 pts as a 21 year old on a crappy team with few scorers up front. The only player recently to have a 21 year old season that good was his predecessor, Karlsson. So they might be locking him in before he gets more expensive. I think it’s probably a very smart move and I doubt it’s anywhere near Nurse’s agents radar as a comparable.

Jethro Tull

drglen:
Gagner should not make opening night roster.Keep him as a security call up or press box player.Under no circumstance should he keep young fast skilled talent out of the lineup.

This is my view as well, but not just applied to Sam Gagner. This should be applied to other aging forwards that aren’t going to cut it, including shoe-horned in PTO’s.

McNuge93

dustrock:
One feels the RFA situation must get done soon for Tkachuk, Connor, Laine etc, no?

God I sure hope McDavid is truly healthy because the Oilers have a chance to make some noise early if Rantanen, Tkachuk, Connor/Laine stay out long term.

+1 on that sentiment, if you cant improve yourself at least others got worse. But, I do believe those RFAs will probably sign before the season starts.

OriginalPouzar

Nygard-McLeod-Neal
Jurco-Marody-Chiasson
Benson-Haas-P. Russell
Granlund-Malone-Peluso

Klefbom-Persson
Samorukov-Benning
Lowe-Jones

Koskinen
Starrett

is expected lineup tonight.

—————————————————

Nygard gets his shot – although an argument can be made that he isn’t with a single “legit NHL top 6 player” – McLeod isn’t (but has skill) and Neal, well, we just don’t know yet.

Look to see what the two speedsters can do together.

Jurco and Marody with a legit NHLer – they will be “expected” to produce tonight – lets see what they can do.

Interesting that Benson and Russell each get their 3rd game out of three.

Why is Peluso playing again? He played well last game but he’s not a real option.

I hope Granlund can look, well, more existent, at 5 on 5 – may be tough with two career AHLers.

Look forward to seeing Persson again.

jp

Jaxon: Nope, that was me:

“JAXON says:
September 18, 2019 at 11:09 pm
Burdasov’s Goal NHLe for the last 3 years:
2016-17: 32 goals
2017-18: 24 goals
2018-19: 25 goals
Don’t know if he can bring all that to the NHL, but yes please.”

Ricki did post his even strength goals NHLe though. (23, 9, 12)

My bad. And yes, not sure it will translate. But it’s clear that the player isn’t simply a favor to the agent with nothing to recommend him.

Pescador

Anyone know if Burdisov was a KHL UFA, and is that the reason he was able to sign the PTO?
Has he played 2-3 KHL games already?
I mean, WTF is going on?

McSorley33

Jaxon,

Thanks for posting that….I love that.

Love JJ – would love for that line to click.

JJ – RNH – Neal.

jp

Primetime:
As Pouzar mentioned at the end of last thread:

Chabot getts 8×8 from the Sens.

Does that not seem like a lot?Or is that a “smart” contract given this summers RFA woes?

Did that just take away any chance of getting Nurse on the Morrisey contract?

As others have noted he’s not entirely a comparable for Nurse. Chabot scored 55 points last year and was -5 at 5v5 for a terrible team (DeMelo was even, but all the other semi-regular D were -13 or worse). It would be difficult for the Nurse camp to argue he deserves Chabot money IMO.

Jethro Tull

OriginalPouzar: Sorry to paste but I wanted to answer the direct question in a thread where its likely to be seen.

1) Good point on Burdasov being a right wingers.Sure, I guess he’s applying for 1RW as opposed to 2LW but, either way, he’s applying for a “top 6 winger spot”. If he wins a right wing spot in the top 6, that likely pushes Neal to the left side which I’m not enthused about.

2) Nope, if he retires, his cap hit disappears – the cap hit only stays on retirement if the player signed at a signing at of 35 (or over).

This is ridiculous. And you accuse me of stretching things to propagate a narrative.

So this guy is no longer trying for 2LW duty, with the GM having NEVER seen him, to trying out for a space besides the world’s best player. Alrighty then.

I am not, as you like to paint me, anti-management. On the contrary, I wish them nothing but success and a long, satisfying life.

What I am is, is someone who will question not only their decisions, but the very philosophies behind them. I am not a person, who when the GM makes a strange call, says, “well I’m sure he had his reasons!” Otherwise, what would ever be the point of posting, or holding an opinion.

I am also someone that will give credit where it is due. Ken has done a lot of good things also.

Not forcing people to justify their weird decisions is a one-way ticket to hell. If they’ve logically thought it through and can defend it, no problem. Does it seem like Ken can defend this one logically?

jp

Pescador:
Anyone know if Burdisov was a KHL UFA, and is that the reason he was able to sign the PTO?
Has he played 2-3 KHL games already?
I mean, WTF is going on?

He was a UFA and has not played any KHL games this season.

Kinger_Oil.redux

Jaxon,

– The verbage from Nuge matches my thinking from always. Here is your most tenured player, who has skill saying: “I wish I could have played more than 10 games with Pool” Baffles me.

Jar-RNH-Pool, I’m convinced is an above average tweener 2nd.3rd line depending on what you do with CmD and Drai, at this age and stage of development

geowal

Andy Dufresne,

I just copied your Burdasov translation to my high school English teaching wife, there’s an exercise in recreating coherent English in there somewhere…

Pouzar

drglen:
Gagner should not make opening night roster.Keep him as a security call up or press box player.Under no circumstance should he keep young fast skilled talent out of the lineup.

I don’t like a lineup with both Son of Chia and Gags.

cowboy bill

I like Sam Gagner and people seem to have a soft spot for him in Edmonton . However with his cap hit , plus the fact Tippett sees him more as a winger than a center , mostlkely in the bottom six , I just don’t see were he would fit , for just one more season in Oil country . Which is why I see Tomas Jurco for 700K for this season making so much more sense

Gags would be great in Bakersfield helping out the kids . Someday he might even make a great coach .

dustrock

Peluso is just so interesting, coaches just love having plugs in there for competition or something.

Interested to see Samorukov with Benning.

OriginalPouzar

I say this with a staunch record of pure heterosexuality, love the Stache on Nygard – looks great!

Pouzar

dustrock: Peluso is just so interesting, coaches just love having plugs in there for competition or something.

He had 5 shots (thereabouts) last game. I was shocked he looked as good as he did.

Kinger_Oil.redux

jp,

– Here’s what I have gleaned: Burdasov had 40 points in 79 games over the past two seasons, and he trailed in production behind names like Linus Omark and Teemu Hartikainen

– He scored 19 goals in 50 games last year, so a HLe that is being used as an inference that his production suggests he’s a hidden gem top-6 scorer in NHL is a very dubious claim IMO

– He’s RFA in KHL, so I figure he comes over, gives it his best shot, and has plan B with KHL, and gets to have a few skates in NHL, be on ice with CmD. I’d do the same

– He is penalized a lot, and is slow, and never selected for Russian international play

– Perhaps “con” is a strong word. Maybe “blowing smoke”, “undo optimism” “highly unlikely”

– Got a kick out of Tippet saying he’s played in the top-6. I get why they tried him, no skin off back. Seems rushed, not thought out, reactive, hopeful, not driven by a process. You know, Oiler gonna Oil type stuff that we are used to. (but Holland has been steady, far less of these kind of things)

JimmyV1965

Jethro Tull: This is ridiculous.And you accuse me of stretching things to propagate a narrative.

So this guy is no longer trying for 2LW duty, with the GM having NEVER seen him, to trying out for a space besides the world’s best player. Alrighty then.

I am not, as you like to paint me, anti-management. On the contrary, I wish them nothing but success and a long, satisfying life.

What I am is, is someone who will question not only their decisions, but the very philosophies behind them.I am not a person, who when the GM makes a strange call, says, “well I’m sure he had his reasons!”Otherwise, what would ever be the point of posting, or holding an opinion.

I am also someone that will give credit where it is due. Ken has done a lot of good things also.

Not forcing people to justify their weird decisions is a one-way ticket to hell.If they’ve logically thought it through and can defend it, no problem.Does it seem like Ken can defend this one logically?

I think that logic would be something like this:

We have three top six forwards and a couple decent fourth liners. This roster isn’t taking us anywhere. What the hell, let’s give it a shot.

Hasn’t this been the strategy all summer? Acquire a bunch of blah, throw it against the wall and hope something sticks. This is simply an extension of that.

Pescador

jp: He was a UFA and has not played any KHL games this season.

Thx JP

gimme shelter

We have such a hodge podge of forwards. Europeans,Ahlers,3rd and 4th liners and now Budasov. He can be added to the European mix. I hope he gets some practice time as well as game time.
Our defense is current NHLers with upcoming AHL and junior.
Our goalies, well one over paid almost rookie plus our pensionner from Calgary.
Will make an interesting season.Wonder where we will be in November?

OriginalPouzar

Koskinen starts tonight – will split the game with Starrett.

Tip looking forward to Nygard doing “less thinking” and “just playing”.

Tip really impressed with McLeod in his first game – smart and good player.

Jurco has “good skill” but looking to bring a good “work ethic” – he was a hound on the puck last game on the wall.

Asked about Benson with an NHL center – Tip said we haven’t played alot of NHL centers and he was with the top center last game.

Nobody has jumped off the map and separated themselves – tonight is “big for that” and “big for the centers” – I think that likely means some big cuts after this game.

The one thing already evident with the big PTO Russian is that he can shoot the puck – I read a quote from Koskinen raving about his shot (Mikko played with him in the KHL for a few years).

He may or may not play tomorrow – Tip will see him in practice today but he got pretty fatigued yesterday in practice – make sense given he just landed from Russia.

Granlund is versatile but will start on the wing. He’ll be big on the PK but the bottom six guys need to help on the offence a bit and he thinks he can do that. He can play against any line in the NHL. They will find the right fit and right role.

Confirmed they want to get a look at Jones on the right as Tip wants to see how he looks on that side.

Pouzar

OriginalPouzar,

McLeod was a possession beast last game. Looking forward to seeing that tonight, No Hands and all.

I think Tipp needs Granlund on the team to PK and is trying convince himself and others that he is somehow a useful 5v5 scorer. He isn’t.

Munny

Pouzar: I don’t like a lineup with both Son of Chia and Gags.

It seems redundant, doesn’t it?

Pouzar

Munny: It seems redundant, doesn’t it?

Absolutely.

Munny

Jaxon,

The sad thing is, the player complement Nuge is describing is more Jesse than JuJube.