2019-20 Game 56: Blackhawks at Oilers

There’s a lot up in the air for the Oilers today, the roster is in a major state of flux. Connor McDavid’s knee, James Neal’s foot and goodness knows what else has the lineup status unknown as we speak. Given the choice between giving 97 an extra two days and turning this into a longer term issue, Oilers fans are all voting the same way. Make sure the captain is right. No exceptions.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, less than two coffees a month offer here. 

  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Trying to make sense of Connor McDavid’s injury and Darnell Nurse’s new contract with Oilers
  • New Jonathan Willis: Faced with uncertainty, Oilers hedge their bet on Darnell Nurse
  • New Lowetide: Oilers sign Darnell Nurse
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Oilers Observations: A Connor McDavid scare, Leon Draisaitl’s back, boosting the top line and helping Zack Kassian
  • Lowetide: The Oilers trading their first-round pick is a bad idea
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: After a ‘long road’ to the NHL, Tyler Benson’s Oilers debut holds extra meaning
  • Mitch Brown: The Video Room: How Oilers’ Kailer Yamamoto overcomes his small stature to make dynamic plays
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘Emotionless’ Oilers fail yet again to match passion from a week ago
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: 15 potential trade targets for the Oilers before the 2020 deadline
  • Lowetide: Drilling down on right-handed centres for the Oilers to target before the trade deadline
  • Jonathan Willis: Oilers trade suggestions: 50 proposals from readers, with our verdict
  • Lowetide: If fast is the new big, the Oilers are trending in a very good direction
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ 2016 draft and the value of waiting five years
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘I got a text from Wayne Gretzky that I’ve still got saved’: 8 years later, Sam Gagner reflects on his 8-point night.
  • Lowetide: What’s next for Tyler Benson and William Lagesson after being called up by the Oilers?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘Now it’s over’: With a new contract in hand, Zack Kassian ready to move on after Matthew Tkachuk fight
  • Lowetide: Why the Oilers are more likely to trade Adam Larsson than Kris Russell
  • Lowetide: Oilers prospects Evan Bouchard and Tyler Benson deliver best minor league performances in 20 years
  • Jonathan Willis: An updated list of which Oilers are most likely to be traded in 2019-20
  • Lowetide: Kailer Yamamoto gives Oilers a midseason spark, one of the best in team history
  • Jonathan Willis: The Oilers’ road forward — and perhaps to a Stanley Cup — requires trusting the kids on defence
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Deciding what to do with Darnell Nurse, Mike Smith, Tyler Benson and Evan Bouchard

OILERS AFTER 56 GAMES

  • Oilers in 2015-16: 22-29-5, 49 points; goal differential -27
  • Oilers in 2016-17: 29-19-8, 66 points; goal differential +7
  • Oilers in 2017-18: 23-29-4, 50 points; goal differential -33
  • Oilers in 2018-19: 24-27-5, 53 points; goal differential -21
  • Oilers in 2019-20: 29-20-6, 64 points; goal differential +3

A win tonight and this year’s model catches the 103-point playoff team in the standings. What’s more, the goal differential between those two teams is in the range and we can say with authority the 2019-20 Oilers are a good hockey club. On pace for 95 points.

ON THE TENS

  • First 10 games: 7-2-1
  • Second 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Third 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Fourth 10 games: 3-6-1
  • Fifth 10 games: 6-2-2
  • Current 10 games: 3-2-0

It’s a tight start to this segment and the road trip to come is rife with monsters and outlaws. A win tonight means this 10-game segment will deliver no worse than 10 points (probably).

OILERS IN FEBRUARY

  • Oilers in February 2016: 1-4-0, two points; goal differential -16
  • Oilers in February 2017: 2-3-0, four points; goal differential -4
  • Oilers in February 2018: 1-3-1, three points; goal differential 0
  • Oilers in February 2019: 1-2-2, four points; goal differential -7
  • Oilers in February 2020: 2-2-0, four points; goal differential +1

Crazy February runs all down the line, this year’s team is the only one in plus numbers goal differential. A win tonight would be nice, and would mean the home stand got some real traction right at the end.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN FEBRUARY

  • On the road to: CAL, ARI (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • At home to: SJS, NAS, CHI (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • On the road to: TBY, FLA, CAR (Expected 1-1-1)
  • At home to: BOS, MIN (Expected 1-1-0)
  • On the road to: LAK, ANA, VEG (Expected 2-1-0)
  • At home to: WPG (Expected 1-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 8-5-1, 17 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 2-2-0, four points in four games

I have the Oilers going 1-1-1 on the road trip, the team will face quality this week but that’s usually when Edmonton is at its best.

OILERS 2019-20

I spoke to Sam Gagner yesterday (here) about his multiple roles on the roster this season and he gave a great answer. Based on yesterday’s lines without McDavid the line will run Gaetan Haas between Gagner and Alex Chiasson.

It’s insincere to call it a big test with 97 not in the lineup. It’s Everest. A very big game tonight, the word “eek” will be used one way or another tomorrow. Edmonton could eek out a win, or we could all be saying eek by the middle of the first period. Such is the way of injury when the best player on the planet has a Charley horse.

TRADE DEADLINE

I’m more convinced than ever that the Oilers will be active at the trade deadline, it’s a matter of what’s available and the prices. I don’t think Holland will grab anyone too spendy, which means no Kreider and maybe no Pageau or Kovalchuk.

I think Holland’s plan for the forwards will not be apparent until summer. I’ll have an article up at The Athletic about it later today or tomorrow morning.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning we hit the ground running with a full boat, TSN1260. Jonathan Willis from The Athletic will talk Darnell Nurse’s contract, Connor McDavid’s injury and the week to come. Seth Rorabaugh from the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review will talk about the big Jason Zucker deal pulled off by the Penguins last night. Corey Graham and Andrew Peard update us on the Oil Kings at 11, while we are lining up a CFL guest for free agency at 11:20. 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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  1. ArmchairGM says:

    “Anyone give any credibility to that “Mike Litorus” account on twitter? He broke the trade with LA perfectly, literally a few hours before it happened. He recently tweeted a big trade is coming because of a few players being very toxic in the room. He did not mention any names but based on recency, I’d have to guess its Kapanen?”

    From a Leafs fan on another forum. Comments?

  2. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    WC standings using points percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Central
    STL 17
    COL 16
    DAL 12

    Because Pacific
    VAN 10
    EDM 9
    VGP 7

    Wildcard
    CGY 7
    WPG 6

    Out of playoffs
    ARI 5
    NSH 4
    MIN 3
    CHI 3
    ANA -3
    SJS -4
    LAK -14

    -Relevant games tonight:

    CHI (+105) at EDM (-125) – Looks like the public thinks McDavid isn’t playing. I think he will.

    ARI (+170) at TOR (-200) – ARI played last night. Line still likes TOR too much.

    VGP (-145) at MIN (+125) – Pysankas are rolling and should roll here.

    NYR (+115) at WPG (-135) – I like Rags at this price. WPG has been over acheiving and Rags can score.

  3. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    ArmchairGM: Mike Litorus

    What’s the actual twitter handle?

    As you might expect “Mike Litorus” comes back with *a lot* of results.

  4. Jethro Tull says:

    Mike Hunt and Jenny Tools do a good job breaking trades. I usually can’t find Mike Litorus.

    I think the best sleeper joke was from Are You Being Served, with Mrs. Slocombe (pronounced Slow- Comm, or with a short U) and the string of jokes about her pussy…… cat.

  5. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    EC standings using points percentage shown at points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Atlantic
    BOS 23
    TBY 21
    TOR 10

    Metropolitan
    WSH 21
    PIT 19
    NYI 16

    Wildcard
    PHI 13
    CBJ 13

    Out of playoffs
    CAR 12
    FLA 9
    NYR 4
    MTL 3
    BUF 0
    NJD -4
    OTT -8
    DET -25

    -TOR backs into a playoff spot because Bob does Bob things in FLA and they can’t score now after killing it early.

    Relevant wildcard games tonight:

    ARI (+170) at TOR (-200) – TOR will probably win, but -200 with no goaltending is too much. A unit on ARI.

    FLA (-130) at NJD (+110) – Bob probably won’t start so FLA has a chance. NJD is rolling a bit, they’re worth a unit or two.

    PHI (+105) at NYI (-125) – After beating WSH in WSH can PHI win on the road now? Line has no value imo.

    CAR (+110) at DAL (-130) – I like DAL at this price. Johns has slid in next to Heiskanen and they’re 55% CF together. The casualty has been Seksey and/or Fedun. Both HS last two games as DAL goes with a Oleksiak-Polak 3rd pair.

  6. Jethro Tull says:

    Another 8pt night for Samwise?

    Well, he might be on the ice for 8 goals…..

  7. npanciroli says:

    hahahaha

  8. ArmchairGM says:

    Since Tippett moved Draisaitl to the 2nd line, McDavid’s scoring rates (5v5 P/60) have plummeted… in the past 14 games, the captain has posted the 92nd best scoring rates in the league. Still a 1st line rate, but just barely. His GF% is 48.00. Pretty impressive for a guy carrying two bottom-6 players and still facing the other teams’ best every night.

    Draisaitl: 3.28 P/60 (16th)
    Yamamoto: 3.24 (18th)
    Nugent-Hopkins: 3.23 (19th)
    Sheahan: 2.56 (51st) – ?? Sir McDavidov
    McDavid: 2.12 (92nd) – a crime against humanity. HOLLAND, PICK UP THE DAMN PHONE.

  9. speeds says:

    Would you take a look at playing McDavid essentially as only a PP option?

  10. ArmchairGM says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Mike Litorus

    @mikelitorus_69

  11. npanciroli says:

    it’s a trap

  12. npanciroli says:

    Tkachuk scored an absolute beauty goal last night. Really unfortunate he plays the way he does I feel like it will tarnish how people look back on his career. I’ll never forgive him for Davidson.

  13. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    My guess would be JT. I don’t think the Islanders missed him very much.
    Which other trade did this fabulous body part break?

  14. JimmyV1965 says:

    Crossing my fingers that McDavid is okay. Please don’t rush him back and I’m sure they won’t. Hope it’s just a charley horse and not something more.

  15. ArmchairGM says:

    Leon Draisaitl is on pace to score 126.7 points this season. The only player to score more in a single season this millennium was Kucherov, who scored 128 last year. Prior to that? Jaromir Jagr with 127 in 1998-99.

    Leon has a chance to post the highest single season point total since Lemieux posted 161 points in 70 games and Jagr had 149 in 82 games in 1995-96.

    Wow. That is rarified air indeed.

  16. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    ArmchairGM:
    Since Tippett moved Draisaitl to the 2nd line, McDavid’s scoring rates (5v5 P/60) have plummeted… in the past 14 games, the captain has posted the 92nd best scoring rates in the league. Still a 1st line rate, but just barely. His GF% is 48.00. Pretty impressive for a guy carrying two bottom-6 players and still facing the other teams’ best every night.

    Draisaitl: 3.28 P/60 (16th)
    Yamamoto: 3.24 (18th)
    Nugent-Hopkins: 3.23 (19th)
    Sheahan: 2.56 (51st) – ?? Sir McDavidov
    McDavid: 2.12 (92nd) – a crime against humanity. HOLLAND, PICK UP THE DAMN PHONE.

    As I mentioned the other day here, until that new piece arrives in Edmonton I think it would be wise to balance the talent on the top 2 lines a bit more by perhaps moving KY up to 1RW and Archie to 2RW. If the 2nd line has a significant drop off put him back with Nuge and Drai. Alternatively Nuge to 1LW, but who then to 2LW??
    A shame about Nygards injury (not that he is a “top 6”) but he creates turnovers in the O zone and can provide complementary pieces (like Archie) to a more complete “top 6”. So if you have 2 legit top 6 on each of the top 2 lines one can get away with an effective “3rd liner” if they are bringing a key piece to complete elements of a successful line.

  17. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    I don’t think Holland will grab anyone too spendy, which means no Kreider and maybe no Pageau or Kovalchuk.

    I don’t think Kovy will be too spendy. Not in the same category as those other two guys. Might be right up EDM’s alley.

    Also,

    Just downloaded the podcast with the Gagner interview to listen to when I can Thanks for the link! Wouldn’t have known about it otherwise.

  18. Andy Dufresne says:

    Why should he?

    McDavid can play with any kind of wingers, if ya didnt know. 🙂

    Plugs, Pylons, Replacement level Players. All score at about the same rate when getting zoomed by Conner.

    Also

    Leo schiebt den fluss. In case ya didnt know that too. 🙂

  19. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Ty.

    Should have known.

    Freidman was talking about how this guy *must* be a friend/family of a LAK player. Might even be one in the trade.

  20. Darth Tu says:

    How not spendy do you think Kovalchuk will be? He’s looking motivated, could be worth grabbing.

    A second? Lagesson and Puljujarvi?

  21. Andy Dufresne says:

    #Schiebt den Fluss

  22. Leroy Draisdale says:

    I’ve heard from the younger crowd that Mike is hard to find…..some of them say he is a myth

  23. dustrock says:

    The greatest player on the planet is playing with 2 wingers who arguably are below replacement level ability.

    Thanks, Chia.

  24. Andy Dufresne says:

    If klitorus69 is a trap then I dont wanna be free! AMARIGHT!?!

  25. Jethro Tull says:

    They weren’t Chia signings (he didn’t make Holland re-sign Kassian)…nor his choice to put them there.

    I take it we’re talking Neal/Kassian/Archibald?

    Yeah, lots to hang Chia with. Not this though.

  26. Andy Dufresne says:

    Get thy self to a clinic young man. And That Right Soon.
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    You need to get checked for an STD.

    #SexuallyTweetedDialouge

  27. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    Why should he?

    McDavid can play with any kind of wingers, if ya didnt know.

    Plugs, Pylons, Replacement level Players. All score at about the same rate when getting zoomed by Conner.

    Don’t confuse points with goal share. The can be almost mutually exclusive.

    My posts are always about goal share because goal share determines who wins games, individual points do not (although there is a correlation)

    In those 14 games, he’s only 48% GF, which isn’t good. (12-13)

    He still needs good help too, all players do.

    He’s (6-6) with Kassian

    He;’s (6-7) without Kassian

    Just look at Zack move needle!!!

  28. dustrock says:

    Hall gone. Eberle gone. Et cetera. The bones of our winger corpse can be traced to moves by Chia.

    Specifically in this case for Connor talking Gagner and Chiasson.

  29. Darth Tu says:

    I guess it is a slight improvement on the previous plan of running McDavid with Drai and “insert whoever is playing best at the time” while Nugent Hopkins was left to play with the below replacement level wingers.

    Silver linings.

    Tonight we’ll possibly get to see Haas try and be McDavid.

  30. dustrock says:

    Holland media avail 10:15 a.m.

    I will assume this is just standard chat and nothing to do with an injury to McDavid, which would steer my Nihilism Clock to 1 minute to midnight.

  31. Andy Dufresne says:

    ive found that whole “crossing the fingers thing” to be unreliable.

    It never worked for Chiarelli either.

  32. Darth Tu says:

    And here I was led to believe that Zack was a defensive liability.

  33. Andy Dufresne says:

    By definition, they would have to be below replacement level…if they cant score with McDavid….because McDavid can successfully zoom any non-gritensity level winger.

    #CircularKindOfArguement

  34. JimmyV1965 says:

    dustrock:
    Holland media avail 10:15 a.m.

    I will assume this is just standard chat and nothing to do with an injury to McDavid, which would steer my Nihilism Clock to 1 minute to midnight.

    I’m struggling to think why this would be a good thing. I’m preparing for bad news.

  35. OriginalPouzar says:

    Morning skate at 1030 – should know more soon.

  36. Jethro Tull says:

    Here’s the problem with hiding shit. No matter what the org says, nobody will believe them. Credibility and probity are real things.

  37. Andy Dufresne says:

    Interesting……

    I didn’t reference Kassian…… 🙂

    #PretzelLogic 🙂

  38. dustrock says:

    From The Athletic’s Big Board on NHL deadline:

    2. Jean-Gabriel Pageau, Ottawa Senators – He’s the best center available. He’s also having a career year, cracking the 20-goal plateau for the first time. Teams like him but there are some who are leery of overpaying. “He’s a good player,” said an Eastern Conference executive. “The problem you have with those guys is he’s putting up such good numbers but he’s on a bad team. He’s going to put up more numbers because of the opportunity.”

    I always wondered about that. Great player on a shite team. Couldn’t it be even more amazing that Pageau is having such a great year on a poor team?

  39. dustrock says:

    What would it take to land Hoffman?

  40. Andy Dufresne says:

    He should have “crossed his fingeres” tighter. Or better still crossed fingers on both hands. 🙂

    #DeathByAThousandUncrossedFingers

  41. LadiesloveSmid says:

    I feel like Pageau’s price will soften, and he could end up being EDM’s guy.

    We don’t want Bouchard to play in Edmonton so his contract will slide, right? I don’t know that I turn my nose up to the idea of trading Larsson now & promoting Bouch.

  42. Andy Dufresne says:

    “which would steer my Nihilism Clock to 1 minute to midnight.”

    HAA! Nice 🙂

  43. jtblack says:

    dustrock:
    From The Athletic’s Big Board on NHL deadline:

    2. Jean-Gabriel Pageau, Ottawa Senators – He’s the best center available. He’s also having a career year, cracking the 20-goal plateau for the first time. Teams like him but there are some who are leery of overpaying. “He’s a good player,” said an Eastern Conference executive. “The problem you have with those guys is he’s putting up such good numbers but he’s on a bad team. He’s going to put up more numbers because of the opportunity.”

    I always wondered about that.Great player on a shite team.Couldn’t it be even more amazing that Pageau is having such a great year on a poor team?

    It’s an interesting question … 

    IMO, being on a bad team that’s not delivering wins doesn’t mean you are playing with bad players .. so I wouldn’t Over Value the players performance just because the team sucks … Look at Edm all those years in the early DoD.  HALL-RNH-EBS ..they played together a lot and did well and put up numbers and got loads of ice time and opportunity -on terrible teams ..  So those players did well and then the rest of the team gave it all back …Might be the same for Pageau in Ottawa ..

    Pageau might be playing with Tkachuk, Chabot and other good players …

  44. Andy Dufresne says:

    Look on the bright side…..At least we know McDavids not getting traded…..Cause you cant trade an injured player.
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    Too soon??

  45. Andy Dufresne says:

    200 Lbs Test Line and a steel leader?

  46. defmn says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    I feel like Pageau’s price will soften, and he could end up being EDM’s guy.

    We don’t want Bouchard to play in Edmonton so his contract will slide, right? I don’t know that I turn my nose up to the idea of trading Larsson now & promoting Bouch.

    I don’t think teams care about the slide that much. There is a theory that getting a chance to sign a player to his second contract sooner is a benefit to a team since his progression has not driven up his numbers as much. With an offensive dman like Bouchard that could well be the case.

  47. Andy Dufresne says:

    “Trading Larsson and Promoting Bouch”

    But you’re from Calgary so ^this^ makes me suspiscious! 🙂 (kidding)

  48. jp says:

    ArmchairGM:
    Since Tippett moved Draisaitl to the 2nd line, McDavid’s scoring rates (5v5 P/60) have plummeted… in the past 14 games, the captain has posted the 92nd best scoring rates in the league. Still a 1st line rate, but just barely. His GF% is 48.00. Pretty impressive for a guy carrying two bottom-6 players and still facing the other teams’ best every night.

    Draisaitl: 3.28 P/60 (16th)
    Yamamoto: 3.24 (18th)
    Nugent-Hopkins: 3.23 (19th)
    Sheahan: 2.56 (51st) – ?? Sir McDavidov
    McDavid: 2.12 (92nd) – a crime against humanity. HOLLAND, PICK UP THE DAMN PHONE.

    McDavid has a 48%GF with Draisaitl this year too so I don’t think it should be much of a concern (though YES, one better winger for McDavid would be wonderful).

    This season:
    McDavid with Draisaitl 3.7GF/60 4.0GA/60
    McDavid in the last 14 3.2GF/60 3.6GA/60 (generally without Draisaitl)

    Shrug.

    More generally though, what the Hell has happened to McDavid?

    GF% by season:
    15-16 50.7
    16-17 62.1
    17-18 57.0
    18-19 50.7
    19-20 51.0

    5v5 goal differential:
    15-16 +1
    16-17 +30
    17-18 +20
    18-19 +2
    19-20 +2

    GF/60 and GA/60
    15-16 3.4 3.3
    16-17 3.5 2.1
    17-18 3.6 2.7
    18-19 3.4 3.3
    19-20 3.5 3.4

    SF%
    15-16 52.7
    16-17 54.0
    17-18 52.5
    18-19 48.6
    19-20 48.2

    It’s not pretty. The switch seems to have actually happened around Christmas 2018 (just before January 2019 when Kassian became a regular on his line).

    2018-19 GF/60 GA/60 GF%
    Full Season 3.4 3.3 50.7%
    Oct1-Dec21 3.1 2.0 61.2%
    Dec22-Apr6 3.6 4.3 45.6%

    Man. It’s like a bad switch went off.

    And while it coincides with Kassian joining the line I’m 99% sure it isn’t Kassian’s fault because McDavid’s results with Kassian (even Kassian without Draisaitl) are better than without over this span.

    What actually has changed since then I do not know.

  49. jp says:

    dustrock:
    Holland media avail 10:15 a.m.

    I will assume this is just standard chat and nothing to do with an injury to McDavid, which would steer my Nihilism Clock to 1 minute to midnight.

    JimmyV1965: I’m struggling to think why this would be a good thing. I’m preparing for bad news.

    It could be a trade or something. Or a Mike Smith extension? lol

    But yeah it could also be bad times.

  50. Darth Tu says:

    We’ve seen our host mention Tatar yesterday, and Kovalchuk seems to be being mentioned a lot as well.

    What about Max Domi? He seems to have fallen off the wagon a bit in Montreal and is now down to playing 3rd line minutes. He’s on an expiring contract with a $3.15 million cap hit.

    I like the fact he can play centre, but would probably see him utilized as a winger in the top 6. He’s a LW too, which helps find a solution for McDavid. You can either run:

    Domi-McD-Kassian

    or:

    Domi-McD-Neal

    Again, no idea what the acquisition cost of Domi would be, I imagine it would be equal to the Kovy ask at least though. Key is, if you can get Domi signed for $5 million or less we’d have a solid winger/3rd line centre option moving forward.

    Just spit ballin’.

  51. Andy Dufresne says:

    Its probably important to look at all the analytics.

    What are Pageau’s Goal Share, Rel stats, Linemates, QoC, etc

    RNH, Hall and Ebbs, put up numbers on a bad team because, Hall played with RNH and Ebbs, And Ebbs played with Hall and RNH, and RNH played with Hall and Ebbs.

    Man, if there was ever a definition of a one line team….BUT WHAT A LINE!!!

  52. Jethro Tull says:

    And a bigger boat….

  53. Andy Dufresne says:

    Hoffman, Pageau, Domi, Tatar*, etc….. You’re shopping in the perimeter aisles…..where they keep all the fresh produce.

    You need to move to the aisles in the center of the store where they they stock all of the frozen and heavily processed items. 🙂

    Or better yet, check the Bargin Bin over by the doors to the warehouse. We’re looking for something with at least a 50% off tag. Will except an expiration date of Late June.

    * Some people think that Tatar comes in a bottle and can be found in aisle 10.

    But he’s actually all beef and can be found in the fresh food section.

  54. Andy Dufresne says:

    HAHA! Thats some hat Harry.

  55. tileguy says:

    Down the river?

  56. Andy Dufresne says:

    if by bigger boat….you mean more cap space… 🙂

  57. Profit says:

    McDavid out 2-3 weeks with a quad injury “completely unrelated to his previous injury”.

    He’s gone to Toronto for treatment and isn’t going on the Florida road trip.

  58. OriginalPouzar says:

    McDavid our 2-3 weeks with a quad injury.

    Go Drai!

  59. Profit says:

    “MRI shows exactly the injury”

    “We won’t be doubling back to say this is more serious”.

    “Normal time frame is 2-3 weeks, we hope it’s a little faster”.

  60. Dr. Taboggan says:

    Time to bring out the draft posts LT!

  61. pts2pndr says:

    But then you have tp protect four D for the expansion draft.

  62. Chelios is a Dinosaur says:

    Leon Draisaitl’s Hart Trophy window just opened.

  63. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Well…maybe they need Pageau earlier than we thought.

    I don’t think this team can stay in the race anymore. Sell on Larsson. Promote Benson/Bouch.

  64. Andy Dufresne says:

    Calgary and Vancouver both recently lost Top Tier players and both teams responded by putting up 6 goals each in their last outings.

    Watch out for a big game from our second line.

    Its kinda like Hall, RNH, and Ebbs, all over again.

    We all know how that turned out.

  65. Profit says:

    “If you’re looking to do a deal, would you move the deal up due to McDavid?”

    “No – it’s more than that. You spend future assets for the here and now, and part of spending future assets, that when you make the deal the odds are pretty good that you’ll be in the playoffs. We’re 3 points out of first and 3 points out of the wildcard”

  66. Andy Dufresne says:

    Does losing McDavid for 2-3 weeks put more pressure on Holland to make a trade NOW?

  67. Profit says:

    They’re also recalling someone today. He’s talking to Tippet this afternoon.

  68. Bag of Pucks says:

    ArmchairGM:
    Leon Draisaitl is on pace to score 126.7 points this season. The only player to score more in a single season this millennium was Kucherov, who scored 128 last year. Prior to that? Jaromir Jagr with 127 in 1998-99.

    Leon has a chance to post the highest single season point total since Lemieux posted 161 points in 70 games and Jagr had 149 in 82 games in 1995-96.

    Wow. That is rarified air indeed.

    A poster who will remain nameless recently scoffed at my suggestion that Leon was a generational talent. Breaks the 50 goal mark last season and is now putting up one of the best regular season point totals in recent NHL history on his own line.

    Last game Connor and Leon became the first teammates since Lemieux and Jagr to post back to back 30 goal seasons. The numbers are starting to speak for themselves.

    I think it’s difficult for some fans to wrap their heads around having more than one generational talent on the same team. But older fans remember a time when we actually had 3 on the same squad (Gretzky, Messier, Coffey) with 2 more in the conversation (Kurri, Fuhr).

    Lightning can strike twice. This attempt to deify McDavid at Draisaitl’s expense needs to stop imo. They are both amazing talents with each getting his full due now that they’ve been separated.

  69. Profit says:

    Holland just said no to that specific question. But who knows if that is game-play or not.

  70. Andy Dufresne says:

    Lets amp this thing up!

    Why was McDavid on the ice , playing in the game, after suffering this injury?

  71. Dr. Taboggan says:

    So Connor misses 7-10 games? How many wins do the Oilers get without McJesus? I bet 2.

  72. flyfish1168 says:

    Your spidey senses was correct

  73. Chelios is a Dinosaur says:

    If McD misses 10 and the Oilers win 5 of those, I think they make the playoffs.

  74. Jethro Tull says:

    Faaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrkkkkkkk

  75. Jethro Tull says:

    I’m glad Ken isn’t Bob.

    Definitely got a “I’m not going to do to the fans what Bob did to me” vibe.

  76. Andy Dufresne says:

    One of the biggest sporting news stories of the last few years, and certainly the biggest hockey news story, was the back to back signing of McDavid and Draisaitl in the summer of 2017,

    It was extensively under-reported at the time.

    #APrairieHomeCompanion

    #LiveFromHere

  77. Bag of Pucks says:

    With McDavid out with injury, I suspect the media narrative will make this all about Draisaitl needing to step up now and carry the team.

    I believe Leon will rise to that challenge but I think this is also the time that RNH needs to step up and drive a 2nd line in a big way. He’s the player that will truly need to elevate his offensive game now imo.

  78. Leroy Draisdale says:

    Wouldn’t mind seeing Benson back up

  79. jtblack says:

    Coffey and Messier were NOT considered Generational ..just so you know

  80. Dr. Taboggan says:

    Agreed. I don’t know what more Drai can do. RNH needs to have a huge stretch of games. Curious if Tip splits them up immediately or not.

  81. ArmchairGM says:

    No, Bouchard is exempt irrespective of NHL games played this year.

    The contract sliding (or not) is a separate issue.

  82. Leroy Draisdale says:

    Maybe run something like:

    Benson – RNH – Kassian
    Chaison/Gagne- Drai – Yamo

  83. tileguy says:

    Profit:
    McDavid out 2-3 weeks with a quad injury “completely unrelated to his previous injury”.

    He’s gone to Toronto for treatment and isn’t going on the Florida road trip.

    Kenny and his health care cutbacks**shakes head**

  84. Bag of Pucks says:

    This will be fascinating to see how the team responds to this challenge. This is an opportunity for some players to shine. I hope they dig in and work their bags off to prove they’re much more than a one man team.

    This is the season. If they don’t rise to this challenge, they’re likely sellers at the deadline.

  85. Andy Dufresne says:

    Dustrock…..

    BONG!!!

    Clock Strikes Midnight.

  86. OilClog says:

    Leon leads a line, Nuge leads a line, whoever gets Yamo has a chance.

    Nuge has been in the McDavid spot for a few years dragging around 4th liners, he should be fairly accustomed pushing his inner screams deep down into his dark place. Doesn’t even look like it aged him!

  87. OilClog says:

    Yea Benson just needs a redbull and he’ll totally be up to speed for a top 6 role, just the facts of science.

  88. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Woodguy v2.0: CHI (+105) at EDM (-125) – Looks like the public thinks McDavid isn’t playing. I think he will.

    Well fuck.

  89. dustrock says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    Dustrock…..

    BONG!!!

    Clock Strikes Midnight.

    Life is meaningless and there’s no point in believing in anything.

    I’m going to go listen to The Smiths. Maybe Radiohead.

  90. ArmchairGM says:

    Andy Dufresne: Its probably important to look at all the analytics.

    What are Pageau’s Goal Share, Rel stats, Linemates, QoC, etc

    You only need to look at one stat: his shooting percentage.

  91. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    3rd- ish

  92. Oilin4 says:

    Hey guys. What’s up? Any news?

  93. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Your 12304234 posts on your unending belief in Kassian were enough.

  94. Leroy Draisdale says:

    Obviously it’s not ideal but barring a trade we don’t have many options

  95. Andy Dufresne says:

    This is bad luck.

    Or is it?

    Is this 7 game stretch, Pre-Deadline Sans-McDavid, what Holland needs to see in order to know what to do at the deadline.

    After all, He knows what he has with McDavid, and he knows McDavid will be back at 100% shortly. So he gets a truer measure of the roster capability now.

    Sink or Swim boys, Sink or Swim.

    We’re about to see if this team is built to play Tippett Style hockey.

    #GutCheckTime
    #NextManUp

  96. cowboy bill says:

    If Connor is out for 2-3 weeks the trade deadline is right now . They will need help . Blake Coleman would be a great fit and when Connor returns they will have the forwards in place . If JP + (Lagesson or Samarukov) + a conditional pick get it done then so be it .

  97. Bag of Pucks says:

    You’re dead wrong. Messier retired as the second leading scorer in league history.. Coffey broke records held by Bobby Orr that were considered unbreakable.

    When you’re setting generational records, you’re a generational player. It’s not all about draft hype. It’s about results.

  98. Oilin4 says:

    OilClog:
    Leon leads a line, Nuge leads a line, whoever gets Yamo has a chance.

    Nuge has been in the McDavid spot for a few years dragging around 4th liners, he should be fairly accustomed pushing his inner screams deep down into his dark place. Doesn’t even look like it aged him!

    Keep them intact. Try to go +2 between them and special teams, then hold the rest to -1.

  99. OilClog says:

    WWE signed The Rock’s daughter, Pebbles.

  100. Andy Dufresne says:

    Yeah.

    Kassian’s no longer on the 4th line. 🙂

  101. dustrock says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    This will be fascinating to see how the team responds to this challenge. This is an opportunity for some players to shine. I hope they dig in and work their bags off to prove they’re much more than a one man team.

    This is the season. If they don’t rise to this challenge, they’re likely sellers at the deadline.

    Agreed.

    And I’ve been banging the “get Pageau NOW” line for the last 6 weeks for this exact reason.

    It’s going to be impossible for Holland to make any move now unless and until the Oilers are still in the hunt come the deadline.

    The GMs will be asking for Bouchard if he wants to make a move right now lol.

  102. OilClog says:

    That means either Haas, Gagner, or Sheahan are the other top 6 Center. Yeeeeeeesh

  103. Dicky94 says:

    Will probably be Granlund.

  104. Leroy Draisdale says:

    Good point, totally forgot about him

  105. jtblack says:

    No BOP, you’re confusing All TIME GREAT with GENERATIONAL ..

    Just ask the next 10 hockey guy you know “Name some Generational players” ….Let me know when you hear the name Paul Coffey ….

    There are many ALL TIME GREATS. There are a Handful of Generational Players .. and sorry, Draisatl is not a Generational player ..

  106. Andy Dufresne says:

    Im going to make a bold prediction.

    Our Connor On / Connor Off numbers are about to balance out considerably.

  107. Brantford Boy says:

    You know it’s bad when SN360 has one ticker line for 15 minutes straight including commercials:
    “BREAKING NEWS: Oilers C Connor McDavid (Quad) our 2-3 weeks”

    Where’s my whiskey… is it too early?

  108. Oilin4 says:

    Two possibilities:

    Nuge-Drai-Yamo
    Hass-Gagner-Chiasson
    Khaira-Sheahan-Archie
    Russell-Cryinginmybeer-Kassian

    Hass-Drai-Yamo
    Khaira-Nuge-Kassian
    Russel-Sheahan-Archie
    Hass-FindingANewHobbie-Chiasson

    Two thoughts:

    1. This could be okay if one of two thinks happen. Goaltending gets really good. Drai plays out of his mind.

    2. At Christmas Yamo was an AHL afterthought. Three days before Valentine’s, he’s vital to the team. Crazy!

  109. Darth Tu says:

    Ha. I guffawed out loud at this.

    I think all I can do is laugh, or I’ll cry.

  110. Andy Dufresne says:

    “The GMs will be asking for Bouchard if he wants to make a move right now lol.”

    Funny 🙂

    But True.

  111. Darth Tu says:

    Again, I have guffawed out loud. Well done sir.

  112. OilClog says:

    Gags/Haas/Chiasson will get their heads split open every second their on the ice in a top 6 role together.

  113. LMHF#1 says:

    Good GM – adds right effing now (as should have been the plan regardless)

    Bad GM – uses baked in excuse and hopes like hell.

    We wait…

  114. Andy Dufresne says:

    Are you serious. Its 11am.

    The day’s half over my friend 🙂

    Prost! Skal! Salud!

  115. godot10 says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    Calgary and Vancouver both recently lost Top Tier players and both teams responded by putting up 6 goals each in their last outings.

    Watch out for a big game from our second line.

    Its kinda like Hall, RNH, and Ebbs, all over again.

    We all know how that turned out.

    Hall, Nugent-Hopkins, Eberle, a weaker supporting cast, and a good coach Krueger, played at a a 77 point season pace (and over Bettman .500 for most of it) .

    So Nugent-Hopkins, Draisaitl, Yamamoto, a better supporting cast and a good coach should be able to play close to Bettman .500

    For three weeks, that should keep the Oilers in the playoff pack.

  116. LMHF#1 says:

    That’s not how the market works.

    That’s Chiarelli “Just give them Hall dammit!” thinking.

  117. Oilin4 says:

    No. It means we have a top 3, and a bottom 9. The second half of the top 6 is seeing a specialist and Toronto. But trust us (and keep buying tickets and merch), it’s only 3 weeks.

  118. Andy Dufresne says:

    I think you mean……We wait …. with fingers crossed

  119. Darth Tu says:

    Any news on the lines at practice yet?

    Surely we’re splitting Nuge and Drai? There’s no other way.

    Gagner-Drai-Yamo
    Neal-Nuge-Kassian
    Khaira-Sheahan-Archibald
    Russell-Haas-Chiasson

    Maybe flip Gagner with Neal depending on how they’re both playing?

    That trade for a third line centre, or a winger that can play centre and wing (Domi) looks even more essential now.

    The time is now for the Tippett shut down responsible hockey me thinks….

  120. Brantford Boy says:

    Andy Dufresne,

    Thanks Andy, its 10am here, thanks for the go ahead…

    Crown or Spicebox, Crown or Spicebox… that is the question…

  121. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    NHL players don’t rely on public healthcare for their treatments. They have private team doctors and see top specialists.

    Connor went to Toronto to work with his team from the summer. You know, the ones who did unprecedented things with his rehab in order to avoid surgery.

    Holland specifically said if the team was staying in Edmonton that Connor would have stayed with the team.

  122. Andy Dufresne says:

    There’s more than one Krueger thats a hockey coach? 🙂

  123. godot10 says:

    Can we ask Scotty Bowman?

  124. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    This is precisely why I leave the mathing to the big brains on the blog.

  125. Brantford Boy says:

    Darth Tu,

    In my opinion, this is the best lineup, post Apocalypse…

  126. Andy Dufresne says:

    🙂

    You can choose from a list of two conjunctions “or” …”and”….

    Choose wisely my friend. 🙂

  127. godot10 says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    Lets amp this thing up!

    Why was McDavid on the ice , playing in the game, after suffering this injury?

    Contusions take awhile to stiffen up.

    I did a head over the handle bars 360 on my bike avoiding a roller blader wit my thigh landing on one of the bars on the frame. I walked two miles home, and then could barely move for a week starting about 6 hours later.

    The two or three weeks is not because of the seriousness of the injury, it is about the risk of re-injury and further injury. You have to let the contusion heal, and get the blood vessels and blood flow in the muscle all healed properly.

    Disclaimer: I am not a doctor.

  128. Darth Tu says:

    Le sigh.

    Let’s all hope for a Post McDavid Miracle, and not Post McDavid Depression.

  129. Nit64 says:

    dustrock:
    Holland media avail 10:15 a.m.

    I will assume this is just standard chat and nothing to do with an injury to McDavid, which would steer my Nihilism Clock to 1 minute to midnight.

    Darth Tu:
    Le sigh.

    Let’s all hope for a Post McDavid Miracle, and not Post McDavid Depression.

    Smashing pumpkin time. Next post should be “Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness”

  130. godot10 says:

    That is NOT how it works. A third line will be added. Connor out of the lineup.

    Connor OFF implies Connor is in the lineup.

  131. Andy Dufresne says:

    People of Calgary are walking with a bounce in thier step this morning.

    In other news, Patrick Kane can’t stop salavating.

  132. godot10 says:

    Darth Tu:
    Any news on the lines at practice yet?

    Surely we’re splitting Nuge and Drai? There’s no other way.

    Gagner-Drai-Yamo
    Neal-Nuge-Kassian
    Khaira-Sheahan-Archibald
    Russell-Haas-Chiasson

    Maybe flip Gagner with Neal depending on how they’re both playing?

    That trade for a third line centre, or a winger that can play centre and wing (Domi) looks even more essential now.

    The time is now for the Tippett shut down responsible hockey me thinks….

    One shouldn’t split up the Draisaitl line until it fails to produce wins.

  133. Nit64 says:

    The GM market is no more efficient than your local GM dealership. Buyers that are flagged as desperate pay more or go home.

  134. hunter1909 says:

    Lowetide, I have to admit that with McDavid in the lineup my usual sensibility re hockey flies far away but now that he’s going to be out of the lineup we can return to important matters:

    What’s happening with the draft?

  135. Munny says:

    Was in the vehicle during the press conference.

    Don’t know which is more bruised… my hand… or the steering wheel.

  136. Munny says:

    This injury completely f@cks Holland’s bargaining position at the deadline.

    Couldn’t have worse timing, other than the rest of the Pacific Division leaders are experiencing the same grief.

  137. Nit64 says:

    Munny:
    Was in the vehicle during the press conference.

    Don’t know which is more bruised… my hand… or the steering wheel.

    Check your quads, Just in case.

  138. Munny says:

    Hunter,

    I think I hear cheering from the trailers at the back end of The Death March…

  139. Pechetr says:

    Every team Hall has played for has gone into the toilet. Coincidence?

  140. Darth Tu says:

    In theory you shouldn’t, but then you’re looking at Gagner, Sheahan or Haas as second line centre…

    i think we’re kind of stuck splitting them up at least to start games, then if we’re a goal down in the 3rd throw them back together.

  141. Klima's_Bucket says:

    If you squint, stand on one leg, and put a Q-tip in one ear, listening to Old Dutch talk sounds an awful lot like that enigmatic President Carrot to the south.

  142. russ99 says:

    Normally I’d agree to not split up the top healthy line, but then someone is playing way over their head centering the second line with lower than average wingers.

    I’d go with:

    Neal – Draisaitl – Yamamoto
    Archibald – Nuge – Kassian
    Khaira – Sheahan – Chiasson
    Russell – Haas – Gagner

    Swap Gagner in for Neal if he can’t go.

  143. Darth Tu says:

    Too soon.

  144. Munny says:

    Probably a good thing I wasn’t on a quad, lol.

    Pretty sure I need a new wheel alignment now though.

  145. Dicky94 says:

    Leroy Draisdale,

    I’d like to see more of Benson too. I just think they’ll go for the veteran.

  146. Bag of Pucks says:

    If the generational tag is meant to arbitrarily exalt a handful of players above the rest without factoring the stats, then the term is meaningless. It might as well mean the most famous players of all time.

    If you’re the 2nd leading scorer in all of NHL history, you’ve made a generational impact, regardless of whether people appreciate those numbers or not.

    This has been a good exchange cos i appreciate how meaningless that title actually is now. Eric Lindros was widely described as a generational player entering the draft. He’d kill for Messier’s resume.

  147. Munny says:

    James Neal is not ready to go tonight and likely won’t be available for the entirety of the road trip.

  148. Oilin4 says:

    Munny:
    James Neal is not ready to go tonight and likely won’t be available for the entirety of the road trip.

    Just stop already!

  149. Munny says:

    Four games in six days, with travel, a depleted roster, and a back-to-back on the last two days.

    Sunday afternoon looks like an impossible win.

  150. rickithebear says:

    OilClog:
    That means either Haas, Gagner, or Sheahan are the other top 6 Center. Yeeeeeeesh

    In the last decade Cup winning teams usually have 4 series wins with 4wins GAA being 2.00 or less.
    Let’s see our GA in the 12gm over the next 3 weeks.
    Can we be Final 4 GA caliber.
    We are hand cuffed with the nurse – bear pair. 3.43 evga/60.
    With Russel out their is no chance of Russell – Benning 0.70 3evga/60 cancelling out that def Nightmare pairs affect.

    Drai C
    RNH C
    Which C does Yamamoto go with.

    RNH – Kassian
    RNH 1.34 evg/60; 2.24 Evp/60
    Kass .67 evg/60; 1.79 Evp/60

    Drai – Kassian was clearly influenced by Mcdavid.
    Drai 1.42 evg/60; 3.83 Evp/60
    Kass 1.13 evg/60; 2.69 Evp/60

    RNH – Yamamoto
    Drai – Kassian

    Gagner – Drai 139:55
    Drai 0.86 evg/60; 2.57 Evp/60
    Gagner 0.86 evg/60; 2.57 Evp/60

    See projected Line – up.
    Jones – Benning has yet to give up a goal.

  151. Munny says:

    Well, we’re probably going to get lots of practise playing the trap at least…

  152. Darth Tu says:

    I never thought I’d be so upset about Neal missing time with injury. This really puts the crapper on my suggested forward lines.

    I hope Benson didn’t leave the city.

    Gagner-Drai-Yamo
    Benson-Nuge-Kassian
    Khaira-Sheahan-Archibald
    Russell-Haas-Chiasson

  153. Munny says:

    Gagner – Nuge – Kass
    Archie – Drai – Yamo
    Khaira – Sheahan – Chiasson
    Granlund – Cave – Russell

    This my guess for tonight, but when it’s a dog’s breakfast, who cares what the ingredients in the sausage are?

    I feel for Tipp right now.

  154. Andy Dufresne says:

    the Klitoris69 trap….I hope.

    #PracticeMakesPerfect

  155. Darth Tu says:

    I do keep forgetting that Cave has been recalled already, maybe he slots into the 4th line and Haas is moving up as winger? He is decent on the fore check I guess.

  156. Litke 94 says:

    Well……. now would be a pretty friggin’ great time for a massive, 10 game inflated PDO run. Come on Smitty, go on a career twilight run… we need it!!!

  157. Darth Tu says:

    You remembered Cave. Unlike me.

  158. Munny says:

    We might get a complete surprise and they call up Marody…

  159. Andy Dufresne says:

    “I feel for Tipp right now”

    Let us know if you find it. 🙂

    #CuriousMinds
    #DidItMove

  160. Yeti says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    This is precisely why I leave the mathing to the big brains on the blog.

    Yes, it’s important not to subtract from the discussion with our poor sense of humour.

  161. Brantford Boy says:

    Ok, so Crown “and” Spicebox… thanks again for the endorsement Andy!

  162. Munny says:

    That’s her job, not mine.

    Mine is responding to the twitter handle above… Mike something.

    I talk into that mike all the time…

  163. Harpers Hair says:

    Benson had an assist for Bakersfield last night.

  164. Munny says:

    I don’t think it really matters, lol. Gregor made a good point though… that for the home game they might keep the DNKY line together.

  165. LMHF#1 says:

    Incorrect.

    You think a team would take an offer that was worse due to the predicament of the GM with a better offer? Not once unless it is personal BS like the Hamilton trade.

  166. Yeti says:

    Cometh the hour, cometh the Caveman.

  167. ArmchairGM says:

    Munny:
    Four games in six days, with travel, a depleted roster, and a back-to-back on the last two days.

    Sunday afternoon looks like an impossible win.

    I’m calling it now: 3-0-1.

  168. Darth Tu says:

    1-0 shut outs in every game.

  169. Andy Dufresne says:

    lol

    My wish for you is a little reverb but no echo.

  170. Munny says:

    Sounds like KRusty is about a week away…

    Usually about a week from skating to playing, when on concussion protocol, no?

    #HolidayInn

  171. OilClog says:

    100%

  172. Nit64 says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    This is precisely why I leave the mathing to the big brains on the blog.

    Can someone mathy break down team results around the time of McDavid’s flu last year? That flu lasted a bunch of weeks on and off ice.

  173. OilClog says:

    Somewhere in there I have agreements

  174. Darth Tu says:

    No Benson then. Cave it is.

  175. Andy Dufresne says:

    haha

    What is it with you and the DiNKY this morning? 🙂

    #BabysArm
    #BabysArmInABoxingGlove

  176. ArmchairGM says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    lol

    My wish for you is a little reverb but no echo.

    LT, can you give Andy a timeout? My sides are aching.

  177. jtblack says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    If the generational tag is meant to arbitrarily exalt a handful of players above the rest without factoring the stats, then the term is meaningless. It might as well mean the most famous players of all time.

    If you’re the 2nd leading scorer in all of NHL history, you’ve made a generational impact, regardless of whether people appreciate those numbers or not.

    This has been a good exchange cos i appreciate how meaningless that title actually is now. Eric Lindros was widely described as a generational player entering the draft. He’d kill for Messier’s resume.

    GENERATIONAL PLAYERS by BOP:

    RON FRANCIS
    JOE THORNTON
    MARK RECCHI
    MATS SUNDIN
    LARRY MURPHY

  178. Andy Dufresne says:

    You have chosen wisley my firend

    Wish I could be there 🙂

  179. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Bag of Pucks,

    A poster who will remain nameless recently scoffed at my suggestion that Leon was a generational talent

    That was me.

    You’re still not right.

    Great player.

    Not generational.

    Generational dominate the league out of the box.

    In my lifetime:

    Gretzky, Lemiueux, Jagr (probably, its close), Lindros, Crosby, Malkin (probably), Ovechkin, McDavid.

    That’s it for the last 40 years or so.

    They content for the league lead in points and 18 year olds and stay in that race for 10+ years (barring injury)

    Drai is looking like he’ll belong in the next tier or tier after that.

    Selanne, Hawerchuk, Peter Stastny, Dionne, Lafluer, Bossy etc.

    Still nice company.

  180. Andy Dufresne says:

    Im going to tear up a little when they go to 3 0n 3 in overtime.

  181. Shane says:

    Don’t you have to have a lead in the game to play the trap though…?

  182. Munny says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    lol

    My wish for you is a little reverb but no echo.

    For some reason I get kneed in the head every time I tap the mike and ask “Is this thing on?”

  183. Andy Dufresne says:

    Please refer to the three commenters above you ^

    And when i say “above you” ….well……. 🙂

  184. Munny says:

    That would be sweet.

    I feel like we’re going to have to sacrifice some chickens though

  185. Bag of Pucks says:

    Whenever a trade is announced, some fans immediately react as if the Oil failed for not securing the same deal.

    This assumes that NHL GMs function as wildly efficient and egalitarian peer network as opposed to what they really are: old boy networks dependent upon currying and maintaining favour.

    Wonder if Chayka potentially costing the Yotes millions in fines takes some of the momentum off hiring the next big data wunderkind as NHL GM?

  186. Brantford Boy says:

    #JustTheTip

  187. Bag of Pucks says:

    For the post in question, it wasn’t you actually.

    And I appreciate that you’ve at least crafted a reasonable definition around this term.

    Still think any term that calls Lindros generational and Messier not is a fairly dumb descriptor.

  188. Munny says:

    Yeti:
    Cometh the hour, cometh the Caveman.

    We can use a Ringer or a Starr right now…

  189. Andy Dufresne says:

    I wish I was special.

  190. Andy Dufresne says:

    hehe

    #PredictablyUnpredictable

    #F@ckingOutliers

    #F@ckBlackSwans

  191. Munny says:

    Stauffer: “The players have an opportunity to show Connor something here”

  192. Andy Dufresne says:

    “Kenny and his health care cutbacks**shakes head**

    AWESOME!

    I bow down to you sir!

    #SituationalComedy

    #SuperbSerendipity

  193. Munny says:

    Wilkins: “This can’t be a ‘woe is me’ team. There are mature individuals on the team, but is this a mature team? We’re going to find out.”

    Wilkins: “This is Drasaitl’s chance to be Malkin and put this team on his back while the other guy is out”

  194. Chelios is a Dinosaur says:

    Bold prediction: Oilers play .600 hockey until McDavid comes back.

    They will play scared off their asses and win puck battles as if they had a garbage pail in net.

    Drai will outscore.

    Wins.

  195. Bag of Pucks says:

    jtblack,

    Such a garbage post, I probably shouldn’t even respond.

    However if you were looking for a descriptor that would best express these players as a group, I would use the old fashioned. ‘franchise player’ or ‘Hall of Famer’ would work once Jumbo Joe gets in.

  196. Andy Dufresne says:

    Surely you’ve misplaced the decimal point, No? 🙂

  197. Andy Dufresne says:

    Premptive strike…

    No. No I have not. And don’t call me Shirley.

  198. Andy Dufresne says:

    AHHH Memories.

    I miss the Good ol Days, when we competed annually for the “Toilet Bowl” and talked draft in November.

    Was Hall really pushing the river?….or was the water just swirling around in a clockwise direction?

  199. Andy Dufresne says:

    Haas should just be Haas…

    Shirtless Drunk Cheesburgers on the floor at 4 in the morning.

  200. JimmyV1965 says:

    Darth Tu:
    We’ve seen our host mention Tatar yesterday, and Kovalchuk seems to be being mentioned a lot as well.

    What about Max Domi? He seems to have fallen off the wagon a bit in Montreal and is now down to playing 3rd line minutes.He’s on an expiring contract with a $3.15 million cap hit.

    I like the fact he can play centre, but would probably see him utilized as a winger in the top 6.He’s a LW too, which helps find a solution for McDavid.You can either run:

    Domi-McD-Kassian

    or:

    Domi-McD-Neal

    Again, no idea what the acquisition cost of Domi would be, I imagine it would be equal to the Kovy ask at least though. Key is, if you can get Domi signed for $5 million or less we’d have a solid winger/3rd line centre option moving forward.

    Just spit ballin’.

    Domi would be perfect. The ask would be very very much higher than Kovy.

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