2019-20 Game 64: Oilers at Golden Knights

The Edmonton Oilers left a point in the shadows of Disneyland last night, but grabbed a Bettman on a night when (lack of) concentration, aggravation and Kerplunk seemed to be on display every shift. We’re on the Vegreville.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, less than two coffees a month offer here. 

  • New Jonathan Willis: Oilers salvage a point as newcomers settle in (and produce) with Connor McDavid
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Are Oilers poised for a long playoff run after Ken Holland’s deadline moves?
  • New Lowetide: Ken Holland’s Oilers trade deadline active, targeted and predictable
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Andreas Athanasiou acquisition the most intriguing deadline move for Oilers
  • New Jonathan Willis: Shrewd addition of Tyler Ennis gives the Oilers insurance, options up front
  • Jonathan Willis: Connor McDavid returns to the Oilers; now the task is to get him linemates
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Oilers bolster blue line by acquiring Mike Green; Is a scoring winger next?
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ European prospects offer interesting options for the future
  • Lowetide: Making sense of the Oilers forward depth chart for the summer
  • Lowetide: For Oilers’ Kailer Yamamoto and Leon Draisaitl, first impressions are long forgotten. Why not for Jesse Puljujarvi?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Stepping out and up, Leon Draisaitl puts himself in the Hart Trophy mix in Connor McDavid’s absence
  • Lowetide: Making sense of the Oilers defensive depth chart for the stretch run and the summer

OILERS AFTER 64 GAMES

  • Oilers in 2015-16: 23-34-7, 53 points; goal differential -33
  • Oilers in 2016-17: 34-22-8, 76 points; goal differential +12
  • Oilers in 2017-18: 27-33-4, 58 points; goal differential -37
  • Oilers in 2018-19: 27-30-7, 61 points; goal differential -26
  • Oilers in 2019-20: 33-22-8, 74 points; goal differential +3

Last night’s loss sets up tonight’s game against Vegas as doubly important. A win would have placed Edmonton one point behind with a game in hand, but a regulation win tonight merely ties the Golden Knights, although the Oilers would have a game in hand.

ON THE TENS

  • First 10 games: 7-2-1
  • Second 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Third 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Fourth 10 games: 3-6-1
  • Fifth 10 games: 6-2-2
  • Sixth 10 games: 6-3-1
  • Current 10 games: 1-1-1

OILERS IN FEBRUARY

  • Oilers in February 2016: 2-10-1, five points; goal differential -23
  • Oilers in February 2017: 6-6-0, 12 points; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in February 2018: 5-7-1, 11 points; goal differential -4
  • Oilers in February 2019: 3-6-4, 10 points; goal differential -14
  • Oilers in February 2020: 6-4-2, 14 points; goal differential +1

This month remains the best of the group although the playoff team is catching up. Fun exit from February coming up!

WHAT TO EXPECT FROM FEBRUARY

  • On the road to: CAL, ARI (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • At home to: SJS, NAS, CHI (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 2-1-0)
  • On the road to: TBY, FLA, CAR (Expected 1-1-1) (Actual 2-1-0)
  • At home to: BOS, MIN (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-1-1)
  • On the road to: LAK, ANA, VEG (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 1-0-1)
  • At home to: WPG (Expected 1-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 8-5-1, 17 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 6-4-2, 14 points in 12 games

A huge game this evening, I do believe Dave Tippett made the correct call having Mikko Koskinen start the Vegas game. Two points in regulation would be a massive late season win.

OILERS 2019-20

Connor McDavid made a defensive play (on a Ryan Getzlaf back door) that was so good I stood up and yelled at the television. Offensively, he was outstanding, and his two new linemates grabbed a goal and an assist each. I thought Tyler Ennis had a tremendous game, Athanasiou less obvious but clearly effective. All numbers five on five, via NST.

LINE 1 Andreas Athanasiou-Connor McDavid-Tyler Ennis played 12:45, going 15-9 Corsi, 8-4 HDSC, 2-0 goals and 7-2 HDSC. Impressive debut for the trio, probably the best since Cream. McDavid played 6:46 against Josh Manson, 1-0 goals.

Andreas Athanasiou scored the goal that secured the Bettman, good eye finding the puck before any Ducks. Also a lovely pass on the Ennis goal. He had two shots and three HDSC. Impressive debut. Connor McDavid was on another level again, posting two assists (plus a PP assist), one shot, three HDSC, drew a penalty, took a penalty and won 11 of 13 on the dot. Tyler Ennis scored a great goal on a deflection and was the key component of the tying goal with a fine individual effort driving to the net. Had four shots and two HDSC. Bet Zack Kassian regrets that suspension now!

LINE 2 Nuge-Leon Draisaitl-Josh Archibald played 9:45, going 8-7 Corsi, 5-3 shots, no goals and 2-1 HDSC. Draisaitl played 10:51 against Josh Manson, going 0-1 goals.

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins had three shots, one HDSC and drew a penalty. Got a PP assist, giving him 50 points in a season for the first time. Leon Draisaitl had two takeaways and won nine of 16 on the dot, scored on the PP and has 99 points. He seemed docile at times defensively, as in not picking up Henrique on the third goal. Josh Archibald was quiet after being thrust into an impossible situation, Chiasson jumping up to replace him later in the game. The line misses the Spokane Kid.

LINE 3 Markus Granlund-Riley Sheahan-Alex Chiasson played 4:37, going 2-4 Corsi, 2-3 shots, no goals and 0-1 HDSC.

Markus Granlund didn’t move the needle at five on five but did get 49 seconds on the PK. Riley Sheahan drew a penalty and was effective on the PK. He was one of the culprits (it took a village) on the first goal. Alex Chiasson had a great chance on the PP but didn’t cash, but was pedestrian at five on five. I’ve written that sentence about him plenty this season.

LINE 4 Jujhar Khaira-Gaetan Haas-Patrick Russell played 4:16, going 3-2 Corsi, 3-1 shots, no goals and 0-1 HDSC.

Jujhar Khaira had a shot, HDSC and 1:43 of solid PK work. If he can play that role every night he’s worth the roster spot. Gaetan Haas had a shot, a takeaway and won three of seven in the dot. His speed was noticeable on the forecheck. Patrick Russell had a shot, a HDSC and a giveaway. Plenty of chatter recently about his being taken out of the lineup, I don’t see it to be honest. Plays a depth role and plays it well.

A regulation win tonight for the Oilers does the entire division a favor, Vegas has won six in a row and are threatening to run away with the Pacific. A regulation loss tonight and the Flames will have a chance to climb into the top three.

PAIRING ONE Darnell Nurse and Ethan Bear played 17:37, going 19-19 Corsi, 11-10 shots, 1-2 goals and 4-4 HDSC. Both men were too casual on the second goal against, offering little resistance on the Deslauriers goal. Needed support but none came on the Henrique goal.

Darnell Nurse had three shots, two blocked shots and his instincts were a little off in going 0-2 on ice goal differential five on five. Played too far off the shooter on the Deslauriers goal and overloaded the left side (Nuge had the man) and effectively left the middle of the ice for Henrique. Ethan Bear had four shots and two giveaways, moved the puck effectively again. Absolute music with the puck, he’s winning the power play job. Bear was unable to impact the two GA, allowing passes to dangerous areas twice. You’d like the defender to get a deflection or interruption in that moment.

PAIRING TWO Caleb Jones and Adam Larsson played 17:10 going 15-13 Corsi, 8-5 shots, 1-0 goals and 3-4 HDSC.

Caleb Jones has graduated to the NHL, his calm feet and full skill set on display consistently now. He had two shots, including a fine chance, played a steady game. Adam Larsson had one shot on goal, a giveaway and a penalty. He activated into the offensive zone several times, it’s my least favourite play.

PAIRING THREE William Lagesson and Mike Green played 11:07, going 9-8 Corsi, 3-4 shots, 0-1 goals and 4-2 HDSC.

William Lagesson had a shot on goal and two giveaways, I found his passing to be off the mark. Perhaps he is still adjusting to the speed of the game at this level and a new partner. Mike Green had a shot on goal and a couple of hits, he denied sorties like a veteran. Both men had vapor lock on the first goal, an umbrella of indecision falling over the slot.

GOALIE Mike Smith stopped 17 of 21, .810. He was indecisive on the first goal against and the difference in the game was a goal. He made several splendid saves but not enough to win the day.

THE PENALTY

Should have been a penalty and a dive. Calling it the way they did inserted the officials into the game story. It’s been a problem for ages and isn’t getting better.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

We will be tearing up the blacktop starting at 10 this morning, TSN1260. Bruce McCurdy from the Cult of Hockey brings his considerable powers of observation and a wealth of experience to the radio and applies it to last night’s game at 10:20. Joe Osborne from OddsShark will talk the trade deadline and the impact on betting, the Raptors chances to repeat and March Madness. Tyler Yaremchuk is in Vegas with the Oilers, he will join us at 11:25 this morning after getting a full 12 hours of sleep. 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. See you on the radio!

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  1. Bulging Twine says:

    theDjdj: Watching the glory days unfold must have been truly heart-breaking

    It was, my friend, it was
    And then to see the Rangers win with all our Oilers in ’94 made us wonder how many cups that Oiler team could have won if they had stayed together

  2. BONE207 says:

    theDjdj: He’s been quality for years though. Never understand how he barely gets signed to league minimum.

    Maybe he’s all about living the dream. Playing hockey for $$$
    He makes a good living, he plays hockey & he’s always employed. Easy contract to pick up by another club or re-sign on his current one. More players should consider a slightly lower cap hit so they don’t get sent off to Robidas Island.

  3. jtblack says:

    blackadder:
    Just to see how far the Oilers have come in improving their roster in a year, this is the forward line-up we iced against Ottawa on Feb 27,2019.

    Nuge-McDavid-Gagner
    Reider-Draisaitl-Chiasson
    Lucic-Cave-Currie
    Malone-Brodziak-Kassian

    +1 for KH

  4. Lowetide says:

    New for The Athletic: Is Andreas Athanasiou the answer to the Jesse Puljujarvi question?

    https://theathletic.com/1633783/2020/02/26/lowetide-is-andreas-athanasiou-the-answer-to-the-jesse-puljujarvi-question/

  5. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    Ennis plays one game and we’re already talking about resigning him.

    Um, sample size?

    The previous 60 games he played this year (along with knowledge of the player’s skillset from his decade in the league).

  6. OriginalPouzar says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Or waive Russell…

    ….
    …..

    He’s not eligible to play in the AHL as per capfriendly:

    https://twitter.com/CapFriendly/status/1231929260748791808/photo/1

    As noted a few times above, I thought it was just playoff eligibility for clear day but CF is advising its season and playoffs.

  7. OriginalPouzar says:

    geowal: You still have to ice a lineup for the next 20 games. If you want him for next season too, no harm in getting him ahead of time.

    Alex Chiasson has a contract that provides negative value – is there any reasonable chance any team is looking to acquire Alex Chiasson, with his current contract, for next year and wants that player so badly they are willing to acquire him during a regular season for which he wouldn’t be eligible to play for them?

  8. OriginalPouzar says:

    tileguy: Can you provide a little background as to,why this is not good for us? Thanks.

    These numbers are dated now but as of Nov 28 the Oilers have won 18 percent of the games and gotten 38% of the power plays with Steve Kozari refereeing since the “check upstairs” incident.
    Quote Tweet

    #TradePretty
    @Pretty__G
    · Nov 28, 2019
    About last night…

    Steve Kozari is the ref that was officiating last night. Steve Kozari is the ref that penalized McDavid after Connor told him to “check upstairs.”

    Since that game the Oilers are 2-11 with a 36-22 PP disadvantage with Steve Kozari reffing.

  9. Chief Inspector says:

    Amazing that the league even allows him to referee Oilers games.

    OriginalPouzar: These numbers are dated now but as of Nov 28 the Oilers have won 18 percent of the games and gotten 38% of the power plays with Steve Kozari refereeing since the “check upstairs” incident.
    Quote Tweet

    #TradePretty
    @Pretty__G· Nov 28, 2019
    About last night…

    Steve Kozari is the ref that was officiating last night. Steve Kozari is the ref that penalized McDavid after Connor told him to “check upstairs.”

    Since that game the Oilers are 2-11 with a 36-22 PP disadvantage with Steve Kozari reffing.

  10. OriginalPouzar says:

    RonnieB: I’m not sure that’s correct.
    I think that post-deadline acquisitions can play in the regular season, but are not eligible for the playoffs. Carolina, for instance, could trade for Raanta if the Coyotes fall out of the playoff chase and he could help them get to the playoffs but could not play post-season. Elliotte Freidman hinted at such a thing in today’s 31 Thoughts column.

    That was my original understanding but I’m going off what capfriendly advised today:

    https://twitter.com/CapFriendly/status/1231929260748791808/photo/1

    Ugghhh, I”m going to be forced to get in to the CBA now, le sigh.

  11. Reja says:

    OriginalPouzar: These numbers are dated now but as of Nov 28 the Oilers have won 18 percent of the games and gotten 38% of the power plays with Steve Kozari refereeing since the “check upstairs” incident.
    Quote Tweet

    #TradePretty
    @Pretty__G· Nov 28, 2019
    About last night…

    Steve Kozari is the ref that was officiating last night. Steve Kozari is the ref that penalized McDavid after Connor told him to “check upstairs.”

    Since that game the Oilers are 2-11 with a 36-22 PP disadvantage with Steve Kozari reffing.

    This must be the giggling hyena Remenda favorite ref. I watch the away feeds and they bring stats like this to their fans attention. What do we get the hyena always on the oppositions side from goaltender interference to off sides to penalties, we have the best player in the league and were stuck with numb nuts pisses me off.

  12. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    I’m also pretty sure that it’s playoff eligibility. Unless there’s been some recent rule change.

    CapFriendly is a dynamite resource, but they’ve been wrong in the past.

  13. N64 says:

    OriginalPouzar: That was my original understanding but I’m going off what capfriendly advised today:

    https://twitter.com/CapFriendly/status/1231929260748791808/photo/1

    Ugghhh, I”m going to be forced to get in to the CBA now, le sigh.

    AHL has its own CBA. Very little from it on their website. E.g. no clear day info there.

  14. tileguy says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    tileguy,

    Kozari is the ref that Connor pointed to the scoreboard and asked him if he wanted to check upstairs.

    Kozari seems to like screwing Connor around.

    Kozari bad.

    I remember that, thanks for sharing.
    EDIT; Just read OP’s numbers on Kozari,YiKES, that sure sound unfair, almost cheating. Thanks for the background OP.

  15. Pescador says:

    Lowetide:
    New for The Athletic: Is Andreas Athanasiou the answer to the Jesse Puljujarvi question?

    https://theathletic.com/1633783/2020/02/26/lowetide-is-andreas-athanasiou-the-answer-to-the-jesse-puljujarvi-question/

    Absolutely!!!
    Especially after Ken Holland gets our second round pick back from Detroit at this years draft in exchange for Jesse Puljujarvi.
    The trade tree is:
    Puljujarvi, a second round pick in 2021 & Ganger (to make the cap dollars work) for:
    25 yr old RFA, Andreas AthensIseeyou.
    Ya I think I that

  16. Munny says:

    N64: AHL has its own CBA.Very little from it on their website. E.g. no clear day info there.

    Lol. I took a look at it this afternoon. It’s not very useful… unless you’re Steve Kozari and want to find out what a penalty is…

  17. ArmchairGM says:

    OriginalPouzar: I thought it was just playoffs but the post from capfriendly suggests its both.

    I think you may be missing my point though – why would a team trade for a player under contract with some term during a season that wouldn’t be able to play with them until the following season?

    What type of team would be interested in acquiring Alex Chiasson right now?

    I mentioned some teams. All teams that won’t make the playoffs anyhow, so they may as well get a head start on their summer work.

  18. jp says:

    Pescador: Absolutely!!!
    Especially after Ken Holland gets our second round pick back from Detroit at this years draft in exchange for Jesse Puljujarvi.
    The trade tree is:
    Puljujarvi, a second round pick in 2021 & Ganger (to make the cap dollars work) for:
    25 yr old RFA, Andreas AthensIseeyou.
    Ya I think I that

    Don’t forget, it’s Athanasiou AND Kuffner.

    Yeah, Kuffner most probably doesn’t make it. He’s had a very poor first AHL season.

    But he played NHL games last year after signing out of college.

    Last 2 college seasons he was a 2 X NCAA All-star, won a national championship, scored 67-51-45-96.

    He has real skill. He’s a real prospect, if also a bit of a long shot at this point. Still, he’s more than just a throw-in, pretty sure (the goalie Redmond for instance, doubtful he’ll be with the org beyond the next few months)

  19. flyfish1168 says:

    Reja:
    Vegas is due for a loss Refs owe us a couple of calls after stealing a point from us last night. The boys strike twice on the PP which propels us to a 5-2 win tonight.

    I got a feeling there are probably some Vegas style odds put out on the reffing for this game.

  20. flyfish1168 says:

    OriginalPouzar: These numbers are dated now but as of Nov 28 the Oilers have won 18 percent of the games and gotten 38% of the power plays with Steve Kozari refereeing since the “check upstairs” incident.
    Quote Tweet

    #TradePretty
    @Pretty__G· Nov 28, 2019
    About last night…

    Steve Kozari is the ref that was officiating last night. Steve Kozari is the ref that penalized McDavid after Connor told him to “check upstairs.”

    Since that game the Oilers are 2-11 with a 36-22 PP disadvantage with Steve Kozari reffing.

    This should be pointed out to the league and maybe a not so accident puck directed in his direction.

  21. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    jp: Don’t forget, it’s Athanasiou AND Kuffner.

    Yeah, Kuffner most probably doesn’t make it. He’s had a very poor first AHL season.

    But he played NHL games last year after signing out of college.

    Last 2 college seasons he was a 2 X NCAA All-star, won a national championship, scored 67-51-45-96.

    He has real skill. He’s a real prospect, if also a bit of a long shot at this point. Still, he’s more than just a throw-in, pretty sure (the goalie Redmond for instance, doubtful he’ll be with the org beyond the next few months)

    The farm is bereft of offensive skill.

    He’s there to help that.

    • Ryan says:

      Hey.

      Catching the tail end of the Avs game.

      Remember that debate of Francouz vs Koskinen?

      You’re a math guy and if IRCC, you were on the Francouz side?

      Francouz this season. 26 games. .927

      Koskinen. 33 games .906

      One player has a 950 k hit this year and 2 m the following two years.

      The other has a $4.5m hit this year and the next two.

      Chiarelli, man.

      • drglen says:

        ya, hard to pry him out of the K for less. I think the jury’s still out. he can become a ‘wall’ if he gets hot. Let’s hope he does. If he’s not ‘on’ though, he’s pretty leaky.

  22. drglen says:

    ok here we go.. we need a win. Vegas is going to come out blazing fast. Can we hold.

  23. OilClog says:

    Darren is the Knights game host TV guy!?! Man

  24. OriginalPouzar says:

    Tough game ahead – if they bring their FLA/CAR style game, coming in waves with a tenacious forecheck, they’ll be fine.

    Have those legs early.

    Come on Oilers!

  25. Bulging Twine says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    Link didn’t post… sounds intriguing though.

    sorry, here it is
    https://t.co/TKoeWb6f71?amp=1

  26. jp says:

    Woodguy v2.0: The farm is bereft of offensive skill.
    He’s there to help that.

    Sure, that’s the main reason.

    You don’t think he has a chance though? (I just re-looked at Pronman’s Fall Oiler prospect rankings, I’d put him in the 10-15 range of those who are still prospects).

    Not a blue chipper obviously but it wouldn’t be a shock if he plays NHL games over the next couple of years.

  27. Bulging Twine says:

    Bulging Twine:
    re Flames interest in Simmonds

    It’s the 80’s BofA all over again

    Oilers had Semenko, McClelland, Jackson
    Flames had Hunter, Peplinski, Baxter

    Oilers add McSorley

    Flames add Fotiu then Churla

    Kassian goes after Tkachuk last year
    Treliving gets Lucic and Rinaldo
    Kassian rag dolls Tkachuk
    Oilers have Kassian, Nurse, Khaira
    Flames add Simmonds

    also Ryan Reaves is a UFA this summer

  28. OilClog says:

    Ref Association is trying to get Connor to go full Kassian.

    The betting overlords can’t keep the numbers in their control with him, so they send their damn annoying ass Dalmatians out there to disrupt the system. This is just my theory anyways cause money rules all.

    Someone hand Tippet a garbage can full of sticks from 1988.

    Here’s cheering for 3 shorties tonight!

  29. OriginalPouzar says:

    Ughh, gross, Chiasson come up to “anchor” the 2d line.

    With that said, massive first shift of the game by that line.

  30. Bulging Twine says:

    well that’s a start

  31. OriginalPouzar says:

    Jones draws an early PP.

  32. jp says:

    Jones can play hockey.

  33. drglen says:

    drei would like another crack at that one.

  34. OriginalPouzar says:

    Boys have shown better lets in the first two minutes than they did at any point last night.

  35. OriginalPouzar says:

    AA, Hass, Ennis, Green, Nurse as PP2 and they are getting a good 45 seconds.

  36. OriginalPouzar says:

    No goal on the PP but PP1 was sure dangerous.

  37. OriginalPouzar says:

    Ticky tack call on Larsson – really?

    • T0ML says:

      OP im usually on your side. There might have been a bit of a dive … but it was a hack at the back of the knee on a guy going backwards it looked like to me …. Im not complaining on it, if this is Ticky Tack, the one Jones pulled was as well….

  38. drglen says:

    Larsson…? dumb.

    but Chaisson should have had a penalty already.

    Seems like room to skate tonight.

  39. OriginalPouzar says:

    Drai taking the PK shift with Nuge – that’s normally Khaira’s spot – that’s interesting.

    Oh, there is Khaira – I think they wanted Leon out for the faceoff – man that guy does it all.

  40. T0ML says:

    Bear looking solid on the PK shift he got there, great effort to get it on net from our zone at that.

  41. OriginalPouzar says:

    drglen:
    drei would like another crack at that one.

    Gotta get that puck up – tough on the back hand though.

  42. OriginalPouzar says:

    Great PK by the Oilers. Knights got 5 shots on it but none dangerous.

  43. drglen says:

    dangerous PP

  44. drglen says:

    russel mugged there… thats a holding non call

  45. OriginalPouzar says:

    Wow, Granlund not only massively interfered with going for a puck behind the Knight net but it was done with vicious prejudice – not call though…

  46. jp says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Drai taking the PK shift with Nuge – that’s normally Khaira’s spot – that’s interesting.

    Oh, there is Khaira – I think they wanted Leon out for the faceoff – man that guy does it all.

    With Nuge and Drai playing together at evens and Nuge already killing penalties it does make sense that Drai might get more PK minutes going forward.

  47. flyfish1168 says:

    This was one of the best player versus ref
    Mario Lemieux vs. Kerry Fraser

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysGiUe9M07E

  48. OriginalPouzar says:

    Wow – the Oilers have dominated the game at 5 on 5 through 8 minutes.

    Only time the Knights have really had the puck has been on their one PP (which they didn’t even earn).

  49. OilClog says:

    Russell is being mugged behind the net ref looking right at it, all is good folks!

  50. drglen says:

    Fleury is ‘on’ tonight… gonna be tough. If he sees it he’ll stop it tonight.

    AA with some good tenacity on the boards.

    When Kass get’s back… I vote we sit Chaiison.

  51. OriginalPouzar says:

    Massive power drive by McDavid and cross-bar.

    Dominating Oilers!

  52. drglen says:

    oh so close. Crossbar mcdavid

  53. jp says:

    Well that was close. And amazing.

  54. OilClog says:

    McDavid can’t receive pass due to bear hug, all is good folks!

  55. drglen says:

    bone head defensive zone play guys…. get it out.

  56. godot10 says:

    drglen:
    Fleury is ‘on’ tonight… gonna be tough.If he sees it he’ll stop it tonight.

    AA with some good tenacity on the boards.

    When Kass get’s back… I vote we sit Chaiison.

    I’m thinking about running a pool as to how many games it take Kassian to get himself suspended again.

  57. OriginalPouzar says:

    Damn, shoot that puck Ethan!

  58. jp says:

    Oilers coming in waves. Pretty damn cool to see.

  59. OriginalPouzar says:

    Mike Green pinches at the offensive blue line and gets tripped coming down the boards drawing a call.

  60. Gerta Rauss says:

    Oilers all over them just can’t get it past Fleury

    Nice period so far

  61. OriginalPouzar says:

    Unreal start by the Oilers save for no goals.

    Top two lines are flying and they are all over the puck and the Knight net.

  62. jp says:

    Green has a nice soft touch on his passes.

    Benning being your 7D is impressive on the depth front.

  63. OriginalPouzar says:

    jp: With Nuge and Drai playing together at evens and Nuge already killing penalties it does make sense that Drai might get more PK minutes going forward.

    Except that its important to try and limit them to the extent possible.

  64. drglen says:

    good game. I’d love to see these two in a series. I wonder, is the ice ‘good’ here… seems like the ice is great and players are making passes and moving with control… game has flow.

    Green looked like he knew what he was doing there.

    P Russell “Hey… I’m on the powerplay” !! That was a fun sequence.

  65. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Every 5th penalty committed on an Oiler is to be called tonight

  66. hunter1909 says:

    This is like being able to call them the Real Edmonton Oilers for the first time since 1990 lmao they’re playing like a freaking powerhouse out there.

  67. Ice Sage says:

    Agreed – some of the best hockey I’ve seen the Oilers play this year.
    Vegas being out-Vegassed with speed. Good match-up

  68. Bulging Twine says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Drai taking the PK shift with Nuge – that’s normally Khaira’s spot – that’s interesting.

    Oh, there is Khaira – I think they wanted Leon out for the faceoff – man that guy does it all.

    That’s why I wouldn’t have minded a FO #4 C to ease the load on DRai

  69. OilClog says:

    Green forcing the refs to make the call, good vet pick up.

    Fleury can turn it down a notch, that’d be swell.

  70. OriginalPouzar says:

    jp:
    Green has a nice soft touch on his passes.

    Benning being your 7D is impressive on the depth front.

    Not accounting for Klefbom and Russell…..

  71. Gerta Rauss says:

    aye aye aye….frack

  72. drglen says:

    great looking powerplay tonight. Bear is awesome on the PP.

    Vegas getting stellar goaltending. Damn. too bad. Puck not quite falling for Leon yet.

  73. Side says:

    How is it not 4-0 already.

  74. OriginalPouzar says:

    Wow, another phenomenal PP by the Oilers – did everything but score.

    Shot clock somehow says zero shots registered but that was pure possession and plus puck movement and dangerous pucks towards the net.

    Not sure how they didn’t score at the end there.

    I’m a bit concerned that the Oilers are dominating this period but there is no score……. I’ve seen one goal against change the entire momentum.

  75. hunter1909 says:

    This is a beautiful game so far tonight wow

  76. Johnny skid says:

    godot10: I’m thinking about running a pool as to how many games it take Kassian to get himself suspended again.

    classy!

  77. T0ML says:

    Really liking Green in the viewing so far. Making the smart vet plays …. thinking there will be for sure a bit of a bounce there with him having reduced minutes in all disciplines as a lot here have suggested.

  78. OilClog says:

    Never want to see Chaisson on the PP again, AA just took his jerb.

  79. jp says:

    godot10: I’m thinking about running a pool as to how many games it take Kassian to get himself suspended again.

    You go first.

    When was his last suspension pre-2020?

  80. hunter1909 says:

    If this game was a woman I’d propose marriage lol

  81. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bulging Twine: That’s why I wouldn’t have minded a FO #4 C to ease the load on DRai

    I thought that was supposed to be Sheahan?

    The thing is, Drai is a solid FO guy and he’s actually a great PK guy (eye test) – its tough to keep him off completely because he’s effective.

  82. Ice Sage says:

    Bear’s mobility is helpful on the PP – Krug-like.

  83. Gerta Rauss says:

    frack

  84. OriginalPouzar says:

    and there it is – Knights get one Grade B chance and its in – great shot by Max P. but, come on Mikko, that’s a save you need to make – in particular with your team dominating and the opposing goalie being the A plus.

  85. drglen says:

    terrible goaltending by our guy. No excuse… terrible, terrible goal to give up. a killer.

  86. Ice Sage says:

    Ouch. So against the grain but that’s how it’s going. Could be a long night as the Oilers tire and start cheating.

  87. hunter1909 says:

    …and then one of the Oilers goalies turns a beautiful romance into the lunch date scene in Play Misty For Me.

  88. StixMalone says:

    Sieve goalies

  89. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Bad goal but Nurse needs to close that gap by half.

  90. ashley says:

    See that’s the one. Koskinen lets in 80’s style goals. You don’t see NHL goalies let in unobstructed shots like that. Sure it’s a nice shot, but all the other goalies manage to save the nice shots.

    That is not a high danger situation.

  91. hags9k says:

    It’s feeling like rope a dope tonight.

  92. drglen says:

    Oilers sagging here… let down.. not winning board battles.

  93. OriginalPouzar says:

    We knew Yama was walking around Vegas but now we know he skated this morning.

    Why are we just finding out now from Drew? Where is the rest of the press pass crowd?

  94. hunter1909 says:

    One of the goalies aside it’s a fantastic game like what a great playoff matchup this could be.

  95. OriginalPouzar says:

    The ONLY thing the Knights did better than the Oilers that period is have goaltending.

    More of that play from the Oilers and they’ll not only win this game but they are a very good hockey team (add Klef, Kass, Yama, Neal, Nygard).

  96. drglen says:

    OK larrson… is looking slow tonight. plays are developing on his watch here, that should not develop. Gap, speed, call it what you want… I’d like to see Tippet elevate Green with Jones… and put Larrson down.

  97. godot10 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    We knew Yama was walking around Vegas but now we know he skated this morning.

    Why are we just finding out now from Drew?Where is the rest of the press pass crowd?

    What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas!

    Plus, if one was a reporter, Oiler’s practice or a couple of hours on a hotel poolside deck?

  98. jp says:

    OriginalPouzar: Except that its important to try and limit them to the extent possible.

    For sure. But since Dari-Nuge play together now at 5v5 and on the PP there’s no particular reason that Draisaitl shouldn’t also PK (if Nuge remains on the PK).

  99. Lowetide says:

    After One:

    1-0 Veg
    12-9 Edmonton shots
    16-9 Edmonton Cors five on five

    ==

    Don’t change a thing, Oilers. Helluva road period. My goodness.

  100. steelymac17 says:

    drglen,

    100%

  101. steelymac17 says:

    Crazy how the momentum shifts after a shitty goal.

  102. Bulging Twine says:

    OriginalPouzar: I thought that was supposed to be Sheahan?

    The thing is, Drai is a solid FO guy and he’s actually a great PK guy (eye test) – its tough to keep him off completely because he’s effective.

    He is, I like, for the grind that is the playoffs, my bottom 6 guys killing penalties to ease the load a little on the top 6, especially the offensive dynamos.
    Haas not PKing and not a strong FO guy – I wouldn’t have minded an upgrade there.
    But maybe I’m nitpicking

    • OilClog says:

      I like Haas more as the soft skill center then I like Sheahan as the shut down center, Sheahan looks like he is being zoomed by Archibald and then reverts to Eric Belanger when he’s not 🤷‍♂️

  103. OriginalPouzar says:

    Solid defensive play by Larsson there on that rush.

    Did McDavid just dump the puck in during the middle of a shift and on an even man rush?

  104. OriginalPouzar says:

    Big save there by Mikko.

  105. Ice Sage says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Big save there by Mikko.

    redeemed, he’s gonna be called on a gain – Oilers sagging

  106. OriginalPouzar says:

    Tough play on the boards there for Lagesson.

  107. geowal says:

    It’s so disorienting watching Koskinen make saves without moving at all, after watching games of Smith move everywhere to make saves. I often have no idea if he’s even made the saves other than lack of Vegas celebration.

  108. Ice Sage says:

    Oilers as bad this period as they were good the first. Sheeesh, gonna need a break or a bounce… but that’s Vegas innit?

  109. OriginalPouzar says:

    Damn Chiasson – you do nothing offensively and crater your line and now you are hurting the team in all zones – after being caved, you have all the time in the world, can’t even get the puck deep to allow for a line change – give pack possession and a clean zone entry – damn.

  110. OilClog says:

    Koskinen has earned about half his total contract so far this period lol

  111. OriginalPouzar says:

    Perfect time for the Oil to get a goal against the flow of play….

  112. russ99 says:

    Gotta do something in the offensive zone or we’re gonna be overrun on defense.

  113. Ice Sage says:

    Darn. For a moment there I thought the Oilers had evolved to Vegas level of elite hockey, turned out the other guys were just starting slow. Still only 1-0, though…

  114. hunter1909 says:

    In this game you prefer not it to be: Mike “3 goal” Smith.

    Playoff preview hockey tonight its fantastic and Vegas are my new fave team in the west for Oilers to meet in the playoffs. Calgary is fodder for Colorado lmao thats all they can look forward to the chumps

  115. Bank Shot says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Damn Chiasson – you do nothing offensively and crater your line and now you are hurting the team in all zones – after being caved, you have all the time in the world, can’t even get the puck deep to allow for a line change – give pack possession and a clean zone entry – damn.

    I’m more frustrated with Draisaitl tonight. first guy out of the D-zone and last guy back in every single time.

    • OilClog says:

      He looks over and gets completely dejected, lost in thought wondering where he lost his lil Yama while being forced to play with Alex freaking Chaisson.

  116. hunter1909 says:

    Ice Sage:
    Darn. For a moment there I thought the Oilers had evolved to Vegas level of elite hockey, turned out the other guys were just starting slow.Still only 1-0, though…

    Oilers started the game like Hit Man Hearns. Tommy Hearns was a champion boxer in the 1980s from Detroit who used to go all out in the 1st minute of his fights because he could swarm the other boxer and he was great it it.

  117. hunter1909 says:

    Bank Shot: I’m more frustrated with Draisaitl tonight. first guy out of the D-zone and last guy back in every single time.

    Please. Leave the “McDavid and Draisaitl cannot play defence” malarkey alone where it belongs.

  118. hunter1909 says:

    OilClog:
    Koskinen has earned about half his total contract so far this period lol

    lol once again this isn’t a game you want Mike Smith playing in.

    • OilClog says:

      Mike Smith has caused me to age about 5 seasons so far this year, medical experts are calling it the reverse Bogarth Ritterly.

  119. russ99 says:

    Please, someone make a play with the puck under pressure.

    I don’t want it, you take it.

  120. hunter1909 says:

    Hunter1909 medicinal whisky prediction: Oilers make playoffs in a canter, then win their opening round then the second round they also win and I cannot imagine any more.

  121. OriginalPouzar says:

    Damn P. Russell, you can’t do that….

  122. hunter1909 says:

    russ99:
    Please, someone make a play with the puck under pressure.

    I don’t want it, you take it.

    Oilers are still trying to fit 3 freaking new players in. Give them a few games and they will astound you I’m certain of that.

  123. T0ML says:

    Yup thats going to get called, swiping the feet out …. Definitely sagging, Koskinen has responded well to that weak one in the first for sure.

  124. hunter1909 says:

    Fun Observation: Oilers are a tough team and Vegas want nothing of them. The result: a good clean game of hockey.

  125. hunter1909 says:

    I want Oilers to tie the game in the last few minutes then the pressure switches to the home team lol

  126. Ice Sage says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Damn P. Russell, you can’t do that….

    Well at least it shakes things up – down 2-0 will let us all go on with our evenings or maybe, just maybe, Oil get some life off the kill

  127. russ99 says:

    hunter1909,

    I know. Just a tough period to watch.

  128. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    When was the last time the Oilers got a shot on net?

  129. OriginalPouzar says:

    Great PK work there by Khaira to get a big clear.

  130. Bank Shot says:

    hunter1909: Please. Leave the “McDavid and Draisaitl cannot play defence” malarkey alone where it belongs.

    Not sure how I can defend myself against statements I didn’t make…..

    Cool story tho.

  131. hunter1909 says:

    Anyone who discounts Ethan Bear needs to have their head examined.

    Bear is a top 4 defenceman right now, with 1st pairing potential.

  132. hunter1909 says:

    Bank Shot: Not sure how I can defend myself against statements I didn’t make…..

    : p

    I studied rhetoric at university.

  133. OriginalPouzar says:

    Remember the days when a great PK would give a team momentum? Looking for that to happen right now.

  134. hags9k says:

    I miss Yamamoto. Human octane boost.

  135. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    The Knight’s are executing a game plan and being super attentive to detail and the Oilers are playing shiny

  136. hunter1909 says:

    Oilers: a Dave Tippett team on steroids.

  137. hunter1909 says:

    These teams both like and respect each other. This is like watching an original 6 rivalry unfold before our eyes.

  138. Gerta Rauss says:

    late penalty per Remenda, Oilers will start the 3rd on the PP if that info is accurate

  139. hunter1909 says:

    Réal Goudenyéu:
    The Knight’s are executing a game plan and being super attentive to detail and the Oilers are playing shiny

    Oilers play shinny and the opposition shits their collective drawers.

  140. Ice Sage says:

    hags9k:
    I miss Yamamoto.Human octane boost.

    Don’t think even he could help this shitshow.
    One of those periods where the Zamboni won’t have to scrape one end.

  141. OilClog says:

    Darren must of made a pretty penny taking this ATT sportsnet gig.

  142. hags9k says:

    Ice Sage,

    Great quick world beater start in the first, then they just can’t execute when the rhythm of the game slows down a beat.

    We are quite good when the pace is sugar buzz frenetic, but nobody can keep that up for 60. When things get slower and more deliberate, we seem to struggle.

  143. russ99 says:

    Great job Koskinen to keep us in this, hope we have some gas left in the tank after three road games in 4 nights and overtime in Anaheim last night to give them a good battle in the third.

    Opening PP goal would really be nice.

  144. flyfish1168 says:

    Friedman states he was not aware of any interest for JP. Best bet is to come back to Edmonton and try and make it work.

    • OilClog says:

      JP going to have to come with an appointment to see Kenny if he wants back in the league.

      Darren and Gary just said that was Vegas best period of the season, Koski didn’t allow a goal.. Math says Koski is clearly a dragon.

  145. russ99 says:

    hunter1909,

    Both of these teams are going to catch a first round opponent unable to grind out a game like this.

  146. godot10 says:

    flyfish1168:
    Friedman states he was not aware of any interest for JP. Best bet is to come back to Edmonton and try and make it work.

    Why would there be at the deadline? He cannot play this season.

  147. Lowetide says:

    After Two:

    1-0 Vegas
    25-17 Vegas shots (16-5 Vegas in the second)
    34-23 Vegas Corsi five on five (25-7 Vegas in the second)
    ==

    Wow. Golden Knights are good! Koskinen held them in after being the only wobble in the first. I don’t think the visitors win this one.

  148. Reja says:

    I smell a PP one timer by Leon.

  149. tileguy says:

    I like Gene

  150. hags9k says:

    Well the ice has been tilted left to right all night so I like our chances in the 3rd.

  151. OriginalPouzar says:

    godot10: Why would there be at the deadline?He cannot play this season.

    Nor could all those draft picks traded at the deadline – selling teams acquire players that are not for this season.

  152. flyfish1168 says:

    godot10: Why would there be at the deadline?He cannot play this season.

    Doesn’t mean he can’t be part of a bigger deal

  153. OriginalPouzar says:

    Leon with a second power rush to the net in a row – another crossbar, sigh.

  154. Ice Sage says:

    Am not usually into Vegas / game-fixing conspiracies but it really looks like the Oilers are trying to throw this game

  155. hunter1909 says:

    Vegas are a Punch Imlach type of team.

  156. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Ice Sage:
    Am not usually into Vegas / game-fixing conspiracies but it really looks like the Oilers are trying to throw this game

    Everyone except kosko

  157. Ice Sage says:

    Réal Goudenyéu: Everyone except kosko

    “I let in first one…”

  158. Seismic Source says:

    The definition of a scheduled loss

  159. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Ice Sage: “I let in first one…”

    Outside of the first 10 minutes the team has played like shit it’s not the goalie that’s the problem tonight.

  160. Ice Sage says:

    Seismic Source:
    The definition of a scheduled loss

    Didn’t have to be – Oilers not as good as they look, it’s gonna be tooth and nail to make post-season at this rate, and even then, Vegas (and Anaheim even) show just how to shut them down. Schedule really doesn’t get easier either.

  161. OilClog says:

    Tippet should throw 97 with 93/29 for a shift or 2

  162. drglen says:

    dang

  163. hags9k says:

    I’m wondering if AA is in shape…

    I know, I know they are pros etc etc.

    But the way the season was going for the Red Wings, you never know.

  164. hunter1909 says:

    Time to cash in those torch and pitchfork shares.

  165. oilersfan says:

    Man the oilers have played bad the last 1:5 periods . Can’t win a batlle anywhere

    getting Kass back will really help the Nuge line when Ennis can go down to play with them

    Yamamoto getting injured on such a nothing play in a 3-0 game has really hurt the team

  166. drglen says:

    no juice from bottom 6, miss yamo… new guys not clicking tonight, where’s the speed? green looks good.

    Sit Khaira and Granland, bring back Benson. It was better with him, than this.

    Also, 2 or 3 crossbars tonight.

  167. russ99 says:

    Ugh that sucks, bit we still have games in hand on most of the chasing teams.

    Get home, get some rest, get the new guys more acclimated at practice on Friday and give the Jets hell on Saturday.

  168. Ice Sage says:

    Just a soul-crushing display of ineptitude, I feel bad for the visiting Oiler fans and tix there aren’t cheap!
    Serious doubts about this squad doing anything in the post-season even if they make it (which has dropped about 15% tonight)

  169. Harpers Hair says:

    hags9k:
    I’m wondering if AA is in shape…

    I know, I know they are pros etc etc.

    But the way the season was going for the Red Wings, you never know.

    Out of the game with a lower body injury.

  170. russ99 says:

    drglen,

    Good news is that when we get healthier, some of those underperformers go to the press box.

  171. drglen says:

    getting worried. Oilers looking like a team that is fading, not surging.

    Chaisson needs to see the press box. Geezus..

  172. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Do the Oilers actually have ONE shot in this period? Fucking pathetic effort. All that work from the GM and the team just mail’s it in.

  173. russ99 says:

    Harpers Hair,

    Ugh that sucks. Hope they are just holding him out as a precaution. Gotta be tough to fly cross country then play a back to back.

  174. drglen says:

    McDavid trying hard. Ennis looks like a gamer

  175. russ99 says:

    Hope Kailer is back next Thursday for the Hawks game, I’ll be at that game.

  176. drglen says:

    Khaira…. registers a shot.

  177. Seismic Source says:

    Ice Sage: Didn’t have to be – Oilers not as good as they look, it’s gonna be tooth and nail to make post-season at this rate, and even then, Vegas (and Anaheim even) show just how to shut them down.Schedule really doesn’t get easier either.

    We play 9 teams not in the playoffs in March and 5 of those are against the bottom 7 teams in the league. Schedule doesn’t get that bad.

    Arizona and Winnipeg are 4 points behind us and we have 1 and 2 games in hand after tonight’s loss. We’re in great shape.

  178. Ice Sage says:

    Seismic Source: We play 9 teams not in the playoffs in March and 5 of those are against thebottom 7 teams in the league. Schedule doesn’t get that bad.

    Arizona and Winnipeg are 4 points behind us and we have 1 and 2 games in hand after tonight’s loss. We’re in great shape.

    Kinda like playing Anaheim the other night x 9?
    I’ll need to see a return to the Oilers of November to exhale again, thanks!

  179. drglen says:

    archi invisible… basically since he took that shot to the face couple games ago.

  180. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bag of Pucks: Fake Twitter 2 Gullible Lawyer 0

    Do you have anything substantive to add or just a personal shot dressed up as (a failed attempt at) humor?

  181. drglen says:

    Haas ineffective…

    Oilers need to generate some hate for Vegas. We got our butts handed to us tonight.

  182. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    I don’t think the Oilers win a single game in a best of seven versus Vegas. This team had a lot to learn still.

  183. Ice Sage says:

    drglen:
    Haas ineffective…

    Oilers need to generate some hate for Vegas.We got our butts handed to us tonight.

    Yep. But what good is hate when you can’t catch them? Too fast, too cohesive, too experienced. Vegas is winning the Pathific going away and the Oilers need to focus on not finishing in a WC spot.

  184. Fuhr and Lowething in Vegreville says:

    I dunno, scheduled loss night, killed it in first period, could have easily been up 3-1 except crossbar and Fleury standing on his head.

    Vegas returned the favor in the second, Koski kept us in it.

    Third period didn’t start the greatest, but even still had some push back in the second half despite being a tired team, with new players, one of which only played one shift in the third, virtually no time to practice with the new team. Our best D man still out along with the little engine that could.

    If not for Fleury, a much closer game IMHO.

    Hopefully AA injury isn’t serious, and with him, Klef, Yamo, Kass insrted hopefully in the near future I’m still super jacked about where this team is and where it’s going compared to what anyone thought in the pre-season.

  185. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    So awesome that our management after fucking years of rebuilding still can’t put together a team that can compete with an essentially new franchise. Love it.

  186. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Fake Twitter > Original Pouzar

    Good talk – very mature.

  187. BONE207 says:

    hunter1909:
    If this game was a woman I’d propose marriage lol

    hunter1909:
    If this game was a woman I’d propose marriage lol

    Well Hunter…

    Looks like your bride just shut you out, blue balls are throbbing & your disheveled suit is a dead give away of your drunken state. Now you’re cruising the casino bars for cheap hooker & a good time.

  188. Seismic Source says:

    Vegas is probably the 4th best team in the league despite their record.
    We just played them at home on the tail end of a back to back with a banged up squad.

    Don’t crash the stock market

  189. drglen says:

    Draistaitl taking too much abuse aka ‘Hack a star” as well tonight. Shehan tried, Ennis tried.. those guys had jump, but Shehan was 1 v 4 most of the night. Where’s the help? (remember those give and goes with Benson) They sent down Benson too soon.

    Khaira has a couple good PKs, a good shift here and there.. but face it the play dies shortly after he gets the puck… Not creating, not possessing.. much… Press box. Could have used Ganger tonight is some ways.

    Granland back down, Chaison PB, Khaira PB… . please. Archie must be injured.

    Green looked good. Id like to see green with Benning. Though Lagesson was pretty good. Jones had a very good game and keeps getting better. Nurse, not a great game. Larrson, getting worn out.

    I’d go.. Nurse Bear… Klef Jones, Green Benning…. Larson and Lagesson sit. Is it sacrelige to say PB for Larsson? He’s not getting it done… give him a few maintainance days.

  190. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Fake Twitter + Original Pouzar = Dummkopf

    LT, I assume this sort of unprovoked “attack” is not what you are looking for in your community.

    I will now start to ignore this poster’s exceedingly more consistent personal insults

  191. Munny says:

    I think Archie is a better player on the left side.

  192. Ribs says:

    Hard to get worked up about this one. Injuries, infused talent, tired team, and a formidable opponent in play on this night.

    I am very interested in seeing what Tippett does with Green for the rest of the season. He looks like he has played too many games on a garbage Detroit team. His attention to detail is not there yet. It looks like the he has the skill but not the will at this point. Quick fix for Tippett? I hope so!

    Why did Russell try to trip that guy twice? One of the dumber penalties I’ve witnessed this year.

  193. Munny says:

    Munny:
    I think Archie is a better player on the left side.

    But there’s no stat for that. I mean we can isolate Archie with a C that he has played both sides with… but we can’t isolate his stats by the side he was on.

  194. v4ance says:

    People who are bashing the team for this loss don’t understand the concept of “schedule loss”. Edmonton was playing the 2nd game of a back to back, and the 3rd game in 4 nights with travel while Vegreville had 2 full days of rest before this game at home. Veg also was coming into the game on a 6 game winning streak overcoming TB and WAS during this run, so they were playing well.

    Add in the injuries, the lineup shuffling with new players, the 2nd best goalie in the game and the result was almost ordained. Fleury WAS perfect and it’s a tough standard but Koskinen had to match or better that level to give us a chance and he wasn’t. We hit about 3 posts and we needed those to go in during the first and hang on the rest of the way.

    The Knights’ PBP crew remarked that the second period was the best period the team played in the entire season but Koskinen and the Oilers shut them out. The third period was just a case of a tired short handed, discombobulated team not having the energy to push back.

    Accept we were in a tough circumstance, take the loss and move on and get the next one.

  195. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    100% provoked. You don’t respect boundaries so why should I?

    What was provoked – you made a comment about wanting to sign Ennis after a one-game sample size. I responded with a comment that he had a 60 game sample size this season and a 10 plus year NHL history.

    I provided a hockey-based response to a comment and you responded with personal insults.

    What boundaries? You don’t like my posting style? You don’t like me challenging your hockey posts with substance? You don’t like me? That’s all on you.

    The only boundary that is not being respected is your own boundary – the promise that you’ve made to yourself multiple times that you will ignore me – the promise you keep breaking.

    You not wanting me to respond to your posts is not a “boundary” – that’s you asking for the intent of the community and forum to be changed for your liking. I respond to hockey based posts with hockey based responses, without personal attack or insult. Sorry if you don’t like it.

  196. OriginalPouzar says:

    Ribs:
    Hard to get worked up about this one. Injuries, infused talent, tired team, and a formidable opponent in play on this night.

    I am very interested in seeing what Tippett does with Green for the rest of the season. He looks like he has played too many games on a garbage Detroit team. His attention to detail is not there yet. It looks like the he has the skill but not the will at this point. Quick fix for Tippett? I hope so!

    Why did Russell try to trip that guy twice? One of the dumber penalties I’ve witnessed this year.

    The first thing he should do is re-insert Benning in as 3RD and use Green as defence depth – which is was acquired for? Spot start him giving Benning and maybe Larsson the odd night off (not sure about Larsson though).

    Firstly, travelling to meet the new team, getting in to ANA late and then playing back to back nights on the road seems silly with a healthy Matt Benning as an option.

  197. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    jp: Sure, that’s the main reason.

    You don’t think he has a chance though? (I just re-looked at Pronman’s Fall Oiler prospect rankings, I’d put him in the 10-15 range of those who are still prospects).

    Not a blue chipper obviously but it wouldn’t be a shock if he plays NHL games over the next couple of years.

    Sure he has a chance.

    His start in the AHL as a 23 year old is really underwhelming, but I don’t know his usage or linemates at all.

    If he plays more than ~20 NHL it will be a pleasant surprise and a bonus.

    The farm will need to import talent so the few good forward prospects have some players to play with.

    As OP says, less nephews and more players.

  198. jp says:

    OriginalPouzar: The first thing he should do is re-insert Benning in as 3RD and use Green as defence depth – which is was acquired for? Spot start him giving Benning and maybe Larsson the odd night off (not sure about Larsson though).

    Firstly, travelling to meet the new team, getting in to ANA late and then playing back to back nights on the road seems silly with a healthy Matt Benning as an option.

    I don’t think Tippett will though. Pretty sure Green is 3RD and Benning is 4RD. Period.

    When’s the last time Benning played 19:42 in a game?

    Hmm…. Nov. 12th 2019. He’s only had 3 games all season where he played 17 minutes.

    I do think we’re likely to see a Benning/Green 3rd pair at some point, but Green was brought in to play. Benning is the depth.

    Three Coaches Agree.

  199. jp says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Sure he has a chance.

    His start in the AHL asa 23 year old is really underwhelming, but I don’t know his usage or linemates at all.

    If he plays more than ~20 NHL it will be a pleasant surprise and a bonus.

    The farm will need to import talent so the few good forward prospects have some players to play with.

    As OP says, less nephews and more players.

    Absolutely. He’s very much a long shot.

    As for his first AHL season I’d assumed he must be injured given the games missed, but I have no idea. Seems like virtually identical to the Marody situation (if injury), except without the strong first AHL season.

    I’m just trying to differentiate Kuffner a bit from a literal trade throw in to even out contracts. I think Redmond from the Persson trade and guys like Norell, Fontaine, Pochiro from recent years fit that description. They were never ever in the plans. Kuffner has value on some level. You’re right that it’s mostly for AHL skill, but I do think he has a better chance of playing NHL games than a lot of the guys who are/will be in Bakersfield.

  200. Pescador says:

    Munny: But there’s no stat for that.I mean we can isolate Archie with a C that he has played both sides with… but we can’t isolate his stats by the side he was on.

    Are you sure? I keep reading about this monies site that gives you the wood

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