Memory

Do you remember the Oilers record at the time the season stopped? Do you know how many points Edmonton is behind Vegas? Ahead of Calgary? Is Oakland still in the league?

The mind is a strange thing. I can remember Bobby Orr’s ’70-71 boxcars (78, 37-102-139) but can’t remember where I put the mail. Back to the Oilers. If the season resumes, the mad dash to the finish will be breathtaking.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, check it out here.

  • New Lowetide: Mavrik Bourque a quality option for the Oilers in the draft
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Inside the franchise-altering decision to pick Leon Draisaitl over Sam Bennett
  • Lowetide: Adam Larsson’s Oilers future uncertain as ‘sexy’ options emerge
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: One-on-one with Wayne Gretzky: On the time he visited Moscow during the Cold War
  • Jonathan Willis and Lowetide: Discount forward options the Oilers could pursue in free agency
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘Oh my God, Edmonton’s picking first’: An oral history of the 2015 NHL draft lottery
  • Lowetide: Comparison of Oilers, Flames drafts 2010-19 closer than it should be
  • Lowetide: The most potent lines in Oilers history
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: On the time Dave Semenko fought Muhammad Ali
  • Lowetide: Why Jan Mysak could be a value pick for the Oilers at the 2020 Draft
  • Jonathan Willis: The Oilers overcame malice in Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver to join the NHL
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Remembering Jacques Plante’s brief tenure with the Oilers at age 45
  • Lowetide: Oilers need to find (or get) real value in William Lagesson
  • Jonathan Willis: What does the Oilers best possible playoff lineup look like?
  • Lowetide: Why Jack Quinn is a perfect 2020 draft fit for the Oilers
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ five-on-five with and without Connor McDavid is improving
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: If play does not resume, 5 notable questions that will go unanswered in Edmonton

STANDINGS

The Oilers lost the last game before lights out, and Calgary did Edmonton a favor by losing as well. Vancouver won their last game and have two games in hand on Edmonton (while being five points behind). All things being equal, you’d rather be the Oilers but nothing has been decided at this point. Here are some questions from the final night’s performance.

Question One: How well did Nuge-Draisaitl-Yamamoto play on the final night before the season crashed?

They didn’t, Nuge played on the second line, Ennis moving up. Tyler Ennis-Leon Draisaitl-Kailer Yamamoto played 15:04, 1-2 goals and 9-2 HDSC. This line was fire for most of the night, with the wingers showing great chem. Faced the Schiefele line 11:55, going 1-1 goals.

Tyler Ennis scored a goal via some good work from he and Kailer Yamamoto, giving fans an intriguing discussion point for the offseason. Leon Draisaitl made a mistake as last man back on the winning goal and turned over the puck three times. He’s a brilliant player, but single events can have enormous impact while also being single events. Kailer Yamamoto was brilliant, an assist, three shots and three HDSC, he forced the play consistently.

Question Two: How did the McDavid line perform?

Nuge-Connor McDavid-Zack Kassian played 13:10, going 10-8 shots, no goals and 3-1 HDSC. Lower event line than you’d like but at least the trio won the shot differential.

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins had two shots, one HDSC and was outstanding with three takeaways. One of his major positives is puck theft and interrupting opposition sorties. Connor McDavid’s goal was fanfreakingtastic, and he seemed to have his legs again. Had three shots, one HDSC and a takeaway. Zack Kassian’s little dish perfect for 97’s rocket man drive to the net. He had an assist, three shots, two HDSC, and looked at home with the captain.

Question Three: How did Jujhar Khaira look in the middle?

LINE 3 James Neal-Jujhar Khaira-Alex Chiasson played 8:21, going 2-6 Corsi, 1-3 shots, no goals and no high danger. James Neal had a shot on goal and a takeaway, I thought he played well beyond an unfortunate own goal. Jujhar Khaira had a giveaway and didn’t impact the game offensively, won two of four five on five faceoffs, Tippett gave this line two offensive and no defensive faceoffs. Alex Chiasson had a quiet game, but it should be mentioned the veteran has been playing effective hockey recently.

Question Four: How is Athanasiou doing?

LINE 4 Andreas Athanasiou-Riley Sheahan-Josh Archibald played 6:42, going 8-1 Corsi, 6-0 shots, no goals and 1-0 HDSC. Andreas Athanasiou played his best game so far to my eye, he was a bull in a china shop and around the puck many times. Had one shot on goal. Riley Sheahan two shots, on HDSC and played well. Josh Archibald played a gritty game including a shot block and much hard work on the wall.

Question Five: Did Nurse-Bear deliver as top pair?

PAIRING ONE Darnell Nurse and Ethan Bear played big minutes, 23:18, going 13-20 Corsi, 9-11 shots, no goals and 3-0 HDSC. Played 12:54 with 97. Pairing faced the Schiefele line 5:21, 1-4 shots and no goals. Darnell Nurse had an assist, three shots and played much of the game. Ethan Bear had a shot on goal, a giveaway and a takeaway. He was effective passing and engaged in the offensive zone (with some impact) a couple of times.

Question Six: Were Klefbom-Larsson the actual top pairing based on matchup?

PAIRING TWO Oscar Klefbom and Adam Larsson played just 16:31, going 12-15 Corsi, 9-8 shots, 2-2 goals and 5-4 HDSC. Pairing faced the Schiefele line 13:04 (making it the shutdown pairing), going 12-7 shots and 2-1 goals. An effective evening. Oscar Klefbom had four shots, one giveaway and played a strong game without the puck. His skating has improved (injury impacted him) and current issues (upper body) he seems able to overcome. Adam Larsson had a shot, a giveaway but mostly played a solid positional game. The goal against while he was on the ice was goalie error.

Question Seven: Jones and Benning are a possible third pair for next season. How did they look?

PAIRING THREE Caleb Jones and Matt Benning played 9:55, going 14-4 Corsi, 10-3 shots, 0-1 goals and 5-1 HDSC. Caleb Jones had a shot on goal and two giveaways, Matt Benning two shots and a HDSC. The third pairing gets squeezed for playing time in the big games.

Question Eight: Did Smith have any wobble?

GOALIE Mike Smith stopped 21 of 24, .875. The first goal went in off James Neal’s stick, no fault there, and the winning goal was on a breakaway and that’s going to happen to a goalie. The second goal was on Smith and his stickhandling ways, miscommunication with Adam Larsson who had no chance at all.

Question Nine: How much did Nuge-Draisaitl-Yamamoto play together?

Not much, the game summary has Leon and Nuge on the ice together for 54 uneventful seconds.

Game summary via Natural Stat Trick is here.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A busy and fun day because there is much to discuss. We get started at 10, TSN1260. James Mirtle from The Athletic will join us to talk about an explosive story he wrote this week about the implications of not completing the 2019-20 season. The numbers are mind boggling and the impact unprecedented. At 11, Joe Osborne from OddsShark will talk NFL draft prop bets (will Roger Goodell get booed by the mailman?). 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. 90 minutes until the show!

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  1. Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR says:

    If there’s any playoffs, you have to think Nuge-Drai-Yammo play together at least to start. Yes? No?

  2. OriginalPouzar says:

    Q: “Do you remember the Oilers record at the time the season stopped? Do you know how many points Edmonton is behind Vegas? Ahead of Calgary? ”

    A: Sure do as I was told last night that the Oilers essentially had no chance of beating the likes of Dallas in a playoff series – I was forced to look back at the standings (3 points behind Vegas who needed an 8-2 heater to get there and actually more points than, and a better goal differential than, Dallas).

  3. OriginalPouzar says:

    Tough to go by memory (even though it hasn’t even been a month and a half) but, if I recall, Nuge/McDavid haven’t been fire in recent memory, however, Drai/Kailer, even without Nuge, was fire and, actually Nuge/Drai, even without Kailer (when injured) was also still fire.

    Maybe Drai is just “fire”?

  4. OriginalPouzar says:

    Seems like JJ’s last game at center wasn’t the best but, from my anecdotal recollection, he was playing solid hockey at center the last few weeks.

    One would think that having two wingers with 20 goal pedigree could help spike an offensive 3rd line but, really, those wingers are PP specialist and not great 5 on 5 players these days.

    Lots of beef on that line though…..

  5. jtblack says:

    “Is Oakland still in the league?”

    I believe so .…..

    “I can remember Bobby Orr’s ’70-71 boxcars (78, 37-102-139)”

    Those seem pretty good 🙂 Never saw him play ….

    “the mad dash to the finish will be breathtaking. ”

    I hope they just jump right to playoffs. Get it going. Short tournament style until the conference finals, then best of 7’s …. Oilers can beat anybody in a shorter playoff format.

  6. ArmchairGM says:

    Haha! Love the subtle memory test at the end.

  7. OriginalPouzar says:

    That game featured the healthy opening night pairings for next season with Lagesson in the press-box and Bouchard starting to tear up the AHL for a very short stint.

    Rusty and McLeod in the Preds org and Bonino (and a 2nd) in the Oilers org.

    —————–

    One day I would like to see Klef/Bear as a pairing – they have been fire in small samples. Right now, the Swedes together and Nuge/Bear for balance.

  8. who says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    That game featured the healthy opening night pairings for next season with Lagesson in the press-box and Bouchard starting to tear up the AHL for a very short stint.

    Rusty and McLeod in the Preds org and Bonino (and a 2nd) in the Oilers org.

    —————–

    One day I would like to see Klef/Bear as a pairing – they have been fire in small samples.Right now, the Swedes together and Nuge/Bear for balance.

    How old is Bonino?
    Don’t like the idea of trading McLeod for him. In 2 years McLeod could be the better player.

  9. hunter1909 says:

    Playoffs!?

    Who is talking playoffs starting?

  10. hunter1909 says:

    Hope no Flames in Round 1.

    Flames are too perfect as Round 2 fodder.

  11. dustrock says:

    Does switching from points to points percentage change any of the standings?

    I’m pretty torn about this notion of playing out Pacific games at an empty Rogers Place.

    I watched Juventus-Inter Milan, in what should have been a dramatic contest for top spot in Serie A, playing in an empty stadium, and man it was like watching practice. Just no energy.

  12. hunter1909 says:

    dustrock: I watched Juventus-Inter Milan, in what should have been a dramatic contest for top spot in Serie A, playing in an empty stadium, and man it was like watching practice. Just no energy.

    Can we take that as a “no” to any currently conceivable playoffs lol

  13. hunter1909 says:

    Oilers will get a perfect underdog role in playoffs – when the freaking LAST thing they need is hubris associated with a 1st place finish.

  14. jp says:

    Thanks for jogging our memories LT!

    This is a good team. Holland did impressive work at the deadline IMO.

    It will be a crying shame if we don’t get to see them in the playoffs. Even if it’s against better judgement, I hope we still do get that chance.

  15. jp says:

    OriginalPouzar: Rusty and McLeod in the Preds org and Bonino (and a 2nd) in the Oilers org.

    You’re rating McLeod as worth more than a 2nd?

  16. JJS says:

    I believe Vancouver are ahead on points percentage

    Calgary at 79 points/70 games = 1.128
    Vancouver at 78/69 = 1.130

    I haven’t looked at the Wildcards.

    How would the first round match up?

  17. Brantford Boy says:

    LT: “Leon Draisaitl made a mistake as last man back on the winning goal and turned over the puck three times. He’s a brilliant player, but single events can have enormous impact while also being single events.”

    I’ve mentioned it a couple times politely… I don’t like to harp on Leon too much, but of those three turnovers (per game), usually one becomes a breakaway, and the other becomes another grade A scoring chance for the opposing team, and the other is a jailbreak for all his teammates to clean up the mistake (usually Nuge, Bear or Nurse), before it turns into a grade A chance… I’d really like for him to clean that up moving forward. It’s weird given his idle is Kopitar, I don’t see those single events much in Anže’s game. Leon; those blind passes at the offensive blue line have got to go.

  18. Harpers Hair says:

    JJS:
    I believe Vancouver are ahead on points percentage

    Calgary at 79 points/70 games = 1.128
    Vancouver at 78/69 = 1.130

    I haven’t looked at the Wildcards.

    How would the first round match up?

    If the playoffs started tonight…

    VGK – CAL

    EDM – VCR

    STL – NSH

    COL – DAL

  19. dustrock says:

    Brantford Boy:
    LT: “Leon Draisaitl made a mistake as last man back on the winning goal and turned over the puck three times. He’s a brilliant player, but single events can have enormous impact while also being single events.”

    I’ve mentioned it a couple times politely… I don’t like to harp on Leon too much, but of those three turnovers (per game), usually one becomes a breakaway, and the other becomes another grade A scoring chance for the opposing team, and the other is a jailbreak for all his teammates to clean up the mistake (usually Nuge, Bear or Nurse), before it turns into a grade A chance… I’d really like for him to clean that up moving forward.It’s weird given his idle is Kopitar, I don’t see those single events much in Anže’s game.Leon; those blind passes at the offensive blue line have got to go.

    Yeah he has the longest shifts in the NHL. He needs to get off of that.

  20. dustrock says:

    hunter1909: Can we take that as a “no” to any currently conceivable playoffs lol

    I wonder if they would finish the regular season and then wait to see if there is a reopening for large groups in June or July.

    Watching the playoffs with no fans will be hugely sterile.

    It was funny watching the soccer players score – they would fist pump, kinda look to the stands….and go back to center half.

  21. jp says:

    Harpers Hair: If the playoffs started tonight…

    VGK – CAL

    EDM – VCR

    STL – NSH

    COL – DAL

    Nashville is ahead of Calgary by PTS% though so I think it would be:

    VGK-NSH

    EDM-VCR

    STL-CGY

    COL-DAL

    EDM and VCR would have a path through each other and then VGK (or NSH). CGY would need to make the conf. finals to have a chance to meet the Oilers (or Canucks). I think!!

  22. JimmyV1965 says:

    Brantford Boy:
    LT: “Leon Draisaitl made a mistake as last man back on the winning goal and turned over the puck three times. He’s a brilliant player, but single events can have enormous impact while also being single events.”

    I’ve mentioned it a couple times politely… I don’t like to harp on Leon too much, but of those three turnovers (per game), usually one becomes a breakaway, and the other becomes another grade A scoring chance for the opposing team, and the other is a jailbreak for all his teammates to clean up the mistake (usually Nuge, Bear or Nurse), before it turns into a grade A chance… I’d really like for him to clean that up moving forward.It’s weird given his idle is Kopitar, I don’t see those single events much in Anže’s game.Leon; those blind passes at the offensive blue line have got to go.

    Leon has a habit of making those awful turnovers. And yes it is usually a blind pass that gets intercepted. And it has resulted in some ugly goals. But it isn’t three per game.

    And Kopitar in his prime couldn’t hold Drai’s jock. Drai is simply a much better player than Kopitar ever was.

  23. ArmchairGM says:

    jp: Thanks for jogging our memories LT!

    This is a good team. Holland did impressive work at the deadline IMO.

    This is a good team. Down the stretch they were one of the best teams in the league, in fact. Win percentage since New Years Eve –

    1. BOS .724
    2. TBL .719
    3. COL .700
    4. PHI .690
    5. VGP .643
    6. EDM .638
    7. CLB .617
    8. MIN .607
    9. CGY .607
    10. STL .600

  24. ArmchairGM says:

    JimmyV1965: Leon has a habit of making those awful turnovers. And yes it is usually a blind pass that gets intercepted.And it has resulted in some ugly goals. But it isn’t three per game.

    And Kopitar in his prime couldn’t hold Drai’s jock.Drai is simply a much better player than Kopitar ever was.

    No kidding. Great player and very consistent, but nowhere near the offensive force Leo is.

  25. dustrock says:

    New Stones LT! “Living in a Ghost Town”

  26. PennersPancakes says:

    ArmchairGM,

    Yams is the power that be

  27. godot10 says:

    dustrock: I wonder if they would finish the regular season and then wait to see if there is a reopening for large groups in June or July.

    Watching the playoffs with no fans will be hugely sterile.

    It was funny watching the soccer players score – they would fist pump, kinda look to the stands….and go back to center half.

    There are not going to be large groups until there is a vaccine or a theraputic that dramatically reduces the death rate (and keeps hospitals from being overwhelmed). Or herd immunity.

  28. Harpers Hair says:

    ArmchairGM: No kidding. Great player and very consistent, but nowhere near the offensive force Leo is.

    Kopitar scored 92 points two seasons ago on an offensively challenged team.

    And, of course, it’s what you score minus what you give up.

  29. Bruce McCurdy says:

    I remember the “giveaway” Draisaitl was charged with on the Jets GWG. He fired a shot from the blueline that hit Neal Pionk in the ankle & sent him limping to the bench. Official scorer calls “giveaway”. Even he is buying into the narrative.

  30. jp says:

    Harpers Hair:

    And, of course, it’s what you score minus what you give up.

    Kopitar is +7 at 5v5 over the past 4 seasons. Leon is +14.

    Of course there’s also those 215 points over the past 2 seasons.

  31. JimmyV1965 says:

    Harpers Hair: Kopitar scored 92 points two seasons ago on an offensively challenged team.

    And, of course, it’s what you score minus what you give up.

    Kopitar and Drai play a similar puck possession game. That’s where the comparisons end. Kopitar’s passing skills are not in the same universe. Same with his shot. That 92 points was the pinnacle of his career, in his 12th season. He scored over 30 goals three times in 14 seasons, playing on some of the best teams in the league.

  32. jp says:

    ArmchairGM: This is a good team. Down the stretch they were one of the best teams in the league, in fact. Win percentage since New Years Eve –

    1. BOS .724
    2. TBL .719
    3. COL .700
    4. PHI .690
    5. VGP .643
    6. EDM .638
    7. CLB .617
    8. MIN .607
    9. CGY .607
    10. STL .600

    Seems like a few Pacific teams stacking up pretty well vs. the league. Too bad they don’t have a chance.

  33. hunter1909 says:

    Harpers Hair: Kopitar scored 92 points two seasons ago on an offensively challenged team.

    And, of course, it’s what you score minus what you give up.

    Vancouver Canucks

    2 Finals appearances

    0 Wins

    50 year record for Vancouver Canucks: -2 in Finals appearances

  34. Lowetide says:

    hunter1909: Vancouver Canucks

    2 Finals appearances

    0 Wins

    50 year record for Vancouver Canucks: -2 in Finals appearances

    Three. Three finals.

  35. jp says:

    Lowetide: Three. Three finals.

    And year 50 is not completed yet. There’s still a chance!

  36. Munny says:

    AIMCo, Alberta Investment Management Corp, which handles many Alberta pension funds, some sovereign wealth money and other public accounts for the Gov…

    Lost $3B in March on trades (shorting Vol).

  37. godot10 says:

    Lowetide: Three. Three finals.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAdGhMRBbzY

    If you count the Millionaires.

    **Actually, not true, but then I couldn’t use the Chain of Command clip.

    The Millionaires are still way ahead of the Canucks. Ahead by a century.

  38. hunter1909 says:

    Lowetide: Three. Three finals.

    This is what makes Lowetide such a treasured resource for hockey information.

  39. Munny says:

    Lowetide: Three. Three finals.

    Richard Brodeur never gets any love, lol.

  40. godot10 says:

    Munny:
    AIMCo, Alberta Investment Management Corp, which handles many Alberta pension funds, some sovereign wealth money and other public accounts for the Gov…

    Lost $3B in March on trades (shorting Vol).

    Zerohedge has been following this trade for the last year, watching the millenial herd of traders (who have never seen a bear market) go for the easy money. Massive global QE, NIRP, and ZIRP suppress volatility. And misprices the derivatives used to put on the trade. Like AIG selling credit default swaps to Goldmans Sach for their CDO’s and synthetic CDO’s before the global financial crisis.

    It is what Taleb would call a turkey trade. Everything is fine. It is a sure thing. Until the day before Thanksgiving.

  41. Bruce McCurdy says:

    jp: And year 50 is not completed yet. There’s still a chance!

    Their 50th *season*, meanwhile, hasn’t even started yet. Rest in Purgatory, 2004-05.

  42. ArmchairGM says:

    Harpers Hair: Kopitar scored 92 points two seasons ago on an offensively challenged team.

    And, of course, it’s what you score minus what you give up.

    It was his career high. Ninety-two points would be a disappointing season for Draisaitl.

    Kopitar has had a 13-year NHL career and only twice scored over 80 points – he’s only been above 1.00 P/GP once. Many of those years were on contending teams the like Draisaitl has never had the advantage of.

  43. jp says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Their 50th *season*, meanwhile, hasn’t even started yet. Rest in Purgatory, 2004-05.

    Ha! I had not thought of that. So they still have a chance, or two.

  44. jp says:

    godot10: There are not going to be large groups until there is a vaccine or a theraputic that dramatically reduces the death rate (and keeps hospitals from being overwhelmed). Or herd immunity.

    Seems like it may be cigarettes.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/22/french-study-suggests-smokers-at-lower-risk-of-getting-coronavirus

    That aside, I expect there will be partly filled rinks/stadiums in the fall (at say 10 of 20% capacity).

    It will be like playing hockey in Florida, all the time.

  45. OriginalPouzar says:

    Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR:
    If there’s any playoffs, you have to think Nuge-Drai-Yammo play together at least to start.Yes?No?

    I would assume.

    Drai/Yamamoto seemed to have success without Nuge but I would start the three together and have either AA (healthy) or Ennis start as Connor’s left wing.

    Wild card: Nygard. 6-2 GF/GA with McDavid I believe.

  46. OriginalPouzar says:

    who: How old is Bonino?
    Don’t like the idea of trading McLeod for him. In 2 years McLeod could be the better player.

    I believe he’ll be 33 by season start.

    I don’t like trading McLeod for him either but the piece, in addition to Rusty, would need to be significant as Bonino is value for his contract and, of course, Rusty probably has negative value.

    Yup, its a risky type trade and maybe not worth it, however:

    1) McLeod may never be an NHL player or may never be an NHL center or more than a tweener
    2) Adding a legit 3C makes this team damn close to a real contender, today

    Note: I think McLeod will “make it” as a middle sixer with PK (not sure thing though).

    Note 2: I’m not positive I pull the trigger

  47. hunter1909 says:

    jp: Seems like it may be cigarettes.

    Smoke automatically catches particles in the air but we cannot expect the NWO to go back on their anti smoking anti drinking seatbelts for all cycle helmeted homeland airport security world now.

  48. OriginalPouzar says:

    dustrock:
    Does switching from points to points percentage change any of the standings?

    I’m pretty torn about this notion of playing out Pacific games at an empty Rogers Place.

    I watched Juventus-Inter Milan, in what should have been a dramatic contest for top spot in Serie A, playing in an empty stadium, and man it was like watching practice.Just no energy.

    To question 1: Yes, I believe it changes who makes the playoffs in both conferences

    To point 2: I hate the idea of playing in empty stadiums. I can get on board for getting some 2019/20 additional revenue but I really hope there can be fans in the stands for the start of the 2020/21 season – they need the revenue and, frankly, fans are “part of the game”.

  49. jp says:

    hunter1909: Smoke automatically catches particles in the air but we cannot expect the NWO to go back on their anti smoking anti drinking seatbelts for all cycle helmeted homeland airport security world now.

    Probably not 🙂

  50. OriginalPouzar says:

    dustrock: I wonder if they would finish the regular season and then wait to see if there is a reopening for large groups in June or July.

    Watching the playoffs with no fans will be hugely sterile.

    It was funny watching the soccer players score – they would fist pump, kinda look to the stands….and go back to center half.

    I believe Bettman said yesterday that potential playing in the summer would be without large crowds.

    I don’t think fans in the stands is feasible for any time this summer – I’m not even sure its feasible for October and that is a big problem.

  51. OriginalPouzar says:

    Did we miss this nugget from Mathesson two days ago:

    https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/edmonton-oilers/ryan-manthas-potential-oilers-career-never-had-a-chance/wcm/b678c9be-0c86-40ab-8eba-46533727d48f/

    This ’n’ that: The Oilers have signed Swedish draft pick defenceman Filip Berglund but he’s going to stay with his club team Linkoping for this upcoming season and he may come over in 2021

    ———————

    Effing GREAT news!

  52. jp says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Sad reminder about Mantha but that is good news on Berglund.

  53. meanashell11 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Did we miss this nugget from Mathesson two days ago:

    https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/edmonton-oilers/ryan-manthas-potential-oilers-career-never-had-a-chance/wcm/b678c9be-0c86-40ab-8eba-46533727d48f/

    This ’n’ that: The Oilers have signed Swedish draft pick defenceman Filip Berglund but he’s going to stay with his club team Linkoping for this upcoming season and he may come over in 2021

    ———————

    Effing GREAT news!

    But wait, I thought we had no chance to sign him. We were assured of that, no?

  54. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Bonino would be a nice acquisition, but I don’t see NSH being willing to commensurate a trade unless there was significant value going their way. His contract is too good of a value to let go.

    My bet is they’d rather move on from Turris before Bonino. And Turris isn’t a player of interest to me unless there’s something we don’t know about him that Coach T vouches for in his favour. Having said that, if NSH retained $2-3M I’d be more inclined to strike a deal.

  55. dustrock says:

    OriginalPouzar: I believe Bettman said yesterday that potential playing in the summer would be without large crowds.

    I don’t think fans in the stands is feasible for any time this summer – I’m not even sure its feasible for October and that is a big problem.

    Woof. Yeah that’s not good.

  56. ArmchairGM says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    Bonino would be a nice acquisition, but I don’t see NSH being willing to commensurate a trade unless there was significant value going their way.His contract is too good of a value to let go.

    My bet is they’d rather move on from Turris before Bonino.And Turris isn’t a player of interest to me unless there’s something we don’t know about him that Coach T vouches for in his favour.Having said that, if NSH retained $2-3M I’d be more inclined to strike a deal.

    If they retained $2M AND took James Neal back, that would be something to consider.

  57. godot10 says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    Bonino would be a nice acquisition, but I don’t see NSH being willing to commensurate a trade unless there was significant value going their way.His contract is too good of a value to let go.

    My bet is they’d rather move on from Turris before Bonino.And Turris isn’t a player of interest to me unless there’s something we don’t know about him that Coach T vouches for in his favour.Having said that, if NSH retained $2-3M I’d be more inclined to strike a deal.

    I think Turris is getting along with Hynes. He wasn’t getting along with Laviolettle.

  58. Harpers Hair says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Did we miss this nugget from Mathesson two days ago:

    https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/edmonton-oilers/ryan-manthas-potential-oilers-career-never-had-a-chance/wcm/b678c9be-0c86-40ab-8eba-46533727d48f/

    This ’n’ that: The Oilers have signed Swedish draft pick defenceman Filip Berglund but he’s going to stay with his club team Linkoping for this upcoming season and he may come over in 2021

    ———————

    Effing GREAT news!

    Poor Berglund.

    Another year in Sweden, two years as cannon fodder in the AHL and by then he’ll be older than Brogan Rafferty.

    He turns 23 next month.

  59. PennersPancakes says:

    Harpers Hair,

    Rafferty will be on his 2nd-3rd Norris by then.

  60. Harpers Hair says:

    ArmchairGM: It was his career high. Ninety-two points would be a disappointing season for Draisaitl.

    Kopitar has had a 13-year NHL career and only twice scored over 80 points – he’s only been above 1.00 P/GP once. Many of those years were on contending teams the like Draisaitl has never had the advantage of.

    LAK play to win every game 1-0.

    Have for many years.

  61. Harpers Hair says:

    PennersPancakes:
    Harpers Hair,

    Rafferty will be on his 2nd-3rd Norris by then.

    And his second Conn Smyth. 😛

  62. jp says:

    ArmchairGM: If they retained $2M AND took James Neal back, that would be something to consider.

    Straight up for Neal would be something to consider.

  63. Lowetide says:

    Harpers Hair: And his second Conn Smyth. 😛

    Smythe. Conn Smythe.

  64. Harpers Hair says:

    Lowetide: Smythe. Conn Smythe.

    Woodguy’s phone.

    Speaking of which, I recently read a story about a guy who broke into a bar and drank dozens of bottles over five days before he was arrested.

    Has anyone heard from Woodguy?

  65. OriginalPouzar says:

    ArmchairGM: It was his career high. Ninety-two points would be a disappointing season for Draisaitl.

    Kopitar has had a 13-year NHL career and only twice scored over 80 points – he’s only been above 1.00 P/GP once. Many of those years were on contending teams the like Draisaitl has never had the advantage of.

    This isn’t just in response to you AC but the Drai/Kopitar posts in general.

    Drai is clearly the better offensive player and driver. McDavid/no-McDavid, PP/ES, whatever, the numbers for Drai speak for themselves.

    Of course, I think its fairly obvious that Kopitar is currently the better defensive player and overall 2-way player. We’ve seen Drai struggle in that regard.

    At the same time, we have also seem how dominant of the defensive player and PK guy Drai can be – he’s inconsistent in his defensive play but we’ve seen him be a beast at both ends of the ice.

    I think his defensive slumps (which can be long and material) are often a function of fatigue – in game and aggregate.

    Part of that has to be on Drai to not have the longest shift length in the league and part of that is on Holland to continue to provide him with help (i.e. faceoff, general forward depth, etc.).

    The thing is, Kopitar won’t get better offensively, his talent is below Drai and he’s past his prime whereas Drai can be just as dominant a 2-way player as Kopitar, he’s shown it, he just needs to learn to do it night in and night and out shift in and shift out.

  66. OriginalPouzar says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    Bonino would be a nice acquisition, but I don’t see NSH being willing to commensurate a trade unless there was significant value going their way.His contract is too good of a value to let go.

    My bet is they’d rather move on from Turris before Bonino.And Turris isn’t a player of interest to me unless there’s something we don’t know about him that Coach T vouches for in his favour.Having said that, if NSH retained $2-3M I’d be more inclined to strike a deal.

    Is a high 2nd round draft pick, with two years of post-draft development and likely a year away from the NHL not value though?

    Bonino is 32.

    Its giving up the now for the future.

    I’m not sure either team would do it. I’m not sure either team would say no.

  67. N64 says:

    Harpers Hair: Woodguy’s phone.

    Speaking of which, I recently read a story about a guy who broke into a bar and drank dozens of bottles over five days before he was arrested.

    Has anyone heard from Woodguy?

    Have not heard from his counsel “Steve Smith” either. Coincidence?

  68. Harpers Hair says:

    N64: Have not heard from his counsel “Steve Smith” either. Coincidence?

    Hmmmm.

  69. Harpers Hair says:

    Elvis is not leaving the building.

    CBJ have signed both him and Korpisalo to contract extensions.

  70. Harpers Hair says:

    OriginalPouzar: This isn’t just in response to you AC but the Drai/Kopitar posts in general.

    Drai is clearly the better offensive player and driver. McDavid/no-McDavid, PP/ES, whatever, the numbers for Drai speak for themselves.

    Of course, I think its fairly obvious that Kopitar is currently the better defensive player and overall 2-way player. We’ve seen Drai struggle in that regard.

    At the same time, we have also seem how dominant of the defensive player and PK guy Drai can be – he’s inconsistent in his defensive play but we’ve seen him be a beast at both ends of the ice.

    I think his defensive slumps (which can be long and material) are often a function of fatigue – in game and aggregate.

    Part of that has to be on Drai to not have the longest shift length in the league and part of that is on Holland to continue to provide him with help (i.e. faceoff, general forward depth, etc.).

    The thing is, Kopitar won’t get better offensively, his talent is below Drai and he’s past his prime whereas Drai can be just as dominant a 2-way player as Kopitar, he’s shown it, he just needs to learn to do it night in and night and out shift in and shift out.

    If only turkeys could fly.

  71. OriginalPouzar says:

    Harpers Hair: Poor Berglund.

    Another year in Sweden, two years as cannon fodder in the AHL and by then he’ll be older than Brogan Rafferty.

    He turns 23 next month.

    Berglund himself wanted one more year in Sweden.

    Potential geographical adjustment period aside, he’ll be in the conversation for NHL games as soon as he decides to come over. No sure thing, of course, not going to label him a can’t miss 2RD, but he’s a legit prospect. Coming over lines up with the expiry of the Larsson contract as well.

  72. OriginalPouzar says:

    Harpers Hair: If only turkeys could fly.

    Please, enlighten me, which part of the post would you not agree with?

  73. Harpers Hair says:

    OriginalPouzar: Berglund himself wanted one more year in Sweden.

    Potential geographical adjustment period aside, he’ll be in the conversation for NHL games as soon as he decides to come over. No sure thing, of course, not going to label him a can’t miss 2RD, but he’s a legit prospect.Coming over lines up with the expiry of the Larsson contract as well.

    Yeah, he’ll fit right in beside Bouchard and Bear as second pairing RD. At the age of 26.

  74. Harpers Hair says:

    OriginalPouzar: Please, enlighten me, which part of the post would you not agree with?

    Both Drai and McDavid cheat for offense.

    Pumps up the stats but doesn’t make you an elite team.

  75. defmn says:

    Harpers Hair: Both Drai and McDavid cheat for offense.

    Pumps up the stats but doesn’t make you an elite team.

    How were the scallops?

  76. pts2pndr says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    That game featured the healthy opening night pairings for next season with Lagesson in the press-box and Bouchard starting to tear up the AHL for a very short stint.

    Rusty and McLeod in the Preds org and Bonino (and a 2nd) in the Oilers org.

    —————–

    One day I would like to see Klef/Bear as a pairing – they have been fire in small samples.Right now, the Swedes together and Nuge/Bear for balance.

  77. pts2pndr says:

    pts2pndr:

    You would move McLeod to move Russel for Bonino and a second. Are you sure you don’t want to add Jones to make it fair. You have been self isolating for too long!

  78. Harpers Hair says:

    defmn: How were the scallops?

    Amazing.

    Went to the Asian store in Nanaimo today and picked up some Char Siu sauce and then a pork shoulder from a local farmer.

    Making BBQ pork tomorrow.

    Eveything is marinating.

  79. Glovjuice says:

    JimmyV1965: Leon has a habit of making those awful turnovers. And yes it is usually a blind pass that gets intercepted.And it has resulted in some ugly goals. But it isn’t three per game.

    And Kopitar in his prime couldn’t hold Drai’s jock.Drai is simply a much better player than Kopitar ever was.

    Agreed, Kopitar, along with Benn are flavour of the month overrated ‘stars’ that are so far from being as good as their salary would suggest.

  80. jp says:

    Harpers Hair: Yeah, he’ll fit right in beside Bouchard and Bear as second pairing RD. At the age of 26.

    That would be solid. I think MacT was the only one who thought too many 2nd pairing D was a problem.

  81. Glovjuice says:

    dustrock:
    New Stones LT!“Living in a Ghost Town”

    Cool song, best in a while.

  82. jp says:

    pts2pndr: You would move McLeod to move Russel for Bonino and a second.Are you sure you don’t want to add Jones to make it fair. You have been self isolating for too long!

    I guess a lot of peoples valuation of McLeod is different from mine. I’d be shocked if Nashville accepted that trade offer.

  83. pts2pndr says:

    Harpers Hair: Kopitar scored 92 points two seasons ago on an offensively challenged team.

    And, of course, it’s what you score minus what you give up.

    Give your head a shake! You are better than that!

  84. pts2pndr says:

    jp: I guess a lot of peoples valuation of McLeod is different from mine. I’d be shocked if Nashville accepted that trade offer.

    You would be paying for past success on a player on the downslide for a player about to blossom. This is all kinds of stupid!

  85. Glovjuice says:

    OriginalPouzar: I believe Bettman said yesterday that potential playing in the summer would be without large crowds.

    I don’t think fans in the stands is feasible for any time this summer – I’m not even sure its feasible for October and that is a big problem.

    Plus, Alberta has a 15 person gathering restriction. A hockey bench has more than 15. Will require a weird bench set up.

  86. jp says:

    pts2pndr: You would be paying for past success on a player on the downslide for a player about to blossom. This is all kinds of stupid!

    My take is:
    1) Bonino > Russell
    2) McLeod =ish to a 2nd round pick

    Maybe McLeod > 2nd to the Oilers since he may contribute sooner than a pick. I don’t think many GMs would give Holland a 2nd straight up for McLeod though. So, it makes no sense.

    I gather some/many/most don’t agree with that assessment.

  87. Harpers Hair says:

    jp: That would be solid. I think MacT was the only one who thought too many 2nd pairing D was a problem.

    Too many second pairing D is a problem.

    You have to identify a first pairing D,

    Otherwise you’re spinning you wheeks.

  88. pts2pndr says:

    Harpers Hair: Poor Berglund.

    Another year in Sweden, two years as cannon fodder in the AHL and by then he’ll be older than Brogan Rafferty.

    He turns 23 next month.

    How do you figure two years in the AHL. He will have played two years as a pro top four D in Sweden. He is much more prepared for the NHL than Rafferty.

  89. jp says:

    Harpers Hair: Too many second pairing D is a problem.

    You have to identify a first pairing D,

    Otherwise you’re spinning you wheeks.

    Well you work with what you’ve got. Most teams don’t have a McDavid or a Draisaitl, some have 2.

    The Oilers currently have 4 D who’ve capably played 1st pair minutes and a few more in the system who look like they could get there. It would be great to have a Hedman, but…

  90. OriginalPouzar says:

    Harpers Hair: Yeah, he’ll fit right in beside Bouchard and Bear as second pairing RD. At the age of 26.

    He’ll likely be 3rd pairing behind those two considering:

    – Bear played an entire 71 game NHL season in the top 4 at RD – mostly top pairing minutes at 5 on 5

    – Bouchard is currently 20 and an AHL all-star in his first year pro coming off one of the most prolific offensive junior careers of the last decade

    Solid prospect Berglund – we’ll see how it goes over the next few years.

  91. Harpers Hair says:

    pts2pndr: How do you figure two years in the AHL. He will have played two years as a pro top four D in Sweden. He is much more prepared for the NHL than Rafferty.

    Nonsense.

    The AHL is a better league than the SHL.

  92. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    Glovjuice: Plus, Alberta has a 15 person gathering restriction. A hockey bench has more than 15. Will require a weird bench set up.

    – Are they going to do daily tests on every player, coach and ref?

    – When someone tests positive even with this no fan, play in a few cities fantasy stuff? Does the rest of the team play without that guy? Do they quarantine: then call up from the minors?

    – It’s not going to be gone by the summer. Lots of asymptomtic people. Are you going to ask the players to give’er, hit hard, face-sandwitches, sweat and blood and breathing right in face?

    – Maybe if I was young and dumb, I’d be wanting to lace up and play hockey, but I suspect there’s enough players who wouldn’t want to subject themselves to that exposure.

    – When they test everyone some will test positive. Then what do you do?

  93. OriginalPouzar says:

    Harpers Hair: Both Drai and McDavid cheat for offense.

    Pumps up the stats but doesn’t make you an elite team.

    I asked what part of my post you don’t agree with as I’m happy to discuss.

    What you responded above has zero to do with my post.

  94. Harpers Hair says:

    OriginalPouzar: He’ll likely be 3rd pairing behind those two considering:

    – Bear played an entire 71 game NHL season in the top 4 at RD – mostly top pairing minutes at 5 on 5

    – Bouchard is currently 20 and an AHL all-star in his first year pro coming off one of the most prolific offensive junior careers of the last decade

    Solid prospect Berglund – we’ll see how it goes over the next few years.

    You can get a third pairing RHD in the bargain bin every year.

    Bouchrad was picked as an all star because every team had to be represented,

  95. OriginalPouzar says:

    pts2pndr: You would move McLeod to move Russel for Bonino and a second.Are you sure you don’t want to add Jones to make it fair. You have been self isolating for too long!

    As I said, I’m not sure I make that trade.

    It also provides the 3C for next year for, essentially, nothing off our roster.

    Its got longer term risk, of course, but goes along way to making this team a contender right away.

    Ennis/McDavid/Kass
    Nuge/Drai/Yamamoto
    Khaira/Bonino/AA
    Nygard/Sheahan/Archie

    Neal/Chiasson will play as there will be injury (of course, one will be in at all times I’m sure – that is depth, right there)

    Nygard and Khaira where they are because Khaira/Sheahan didn’t work even a little this past year.

    Nurse/Bear
    Klef/Larsson
    Jones/Benning

    Lagesson

    Bouch on recall

    Koskinen
    Dell/DeSmith/Griess/Khubodin/Hill

  96. OriginalPouzar says:

    Harpers Hair: You can get a third pairing RHD in the bargain bin every year.

    Bouchrad was picked as an all star because every team had to be represented,

    I’m not sure you really know anything about Berglund – b/c he may play behind Bouch and Bear doesn’t mean he will only be a 3RD. Has Malkin been a 2C for his career? Is Drai a 2C? I don’t know what Berglund will develop in to but he’s a solid prospect that his developing well in Sweden and is a good asset.

    Please stop making stuff up – Benson was also an AHL all-star so, no, that post above is just wrong. Of course, you wouldn’t trade Rafferty for Bouchard, or so you so say so, in my opinion, you are either totally blinded and biased on these players or simply trolling.

    Either way, I won’t talk about these prospects with you any longer until you show some ability to be reasonable.

    Enjoy your evening – Stay safe on the Island!

  97. defmn says:

    Harpers Hair: Amazing.

    Went to the Asian store in Nanaimo today and picked up some Char Siu sauce and then a pork shoulder from a local farmer.

    Making BBQ pork tomorrow.

    Eveything is marinating.

    Probably hard to get out there on the island but cod’s cheeks are similar. I usually go for the cod’s tongues and my wife prefers the cheeks when we can find them. Just powder with flour a little salt and pepper and pan fry. Simple but delicious. Of course in Alberta fresh fish is just about impossible to get.

    We had a Chinese hot pot last night. One of my faves. You ever try it?

  98. Harpers Hair says:

    defmn: Probably hard to get out there on the island but cod’s cheeks are similar. I usually go for the cod’s tongues and my wife prefers the cheeks when we can find them. Just powder with flour a little salt and pepper and pan fry. Simple but delicious. Of course in Alberta fresh fish is just about impossible to get.

    We had a Chinese hot pot last night. One of my faves. You ever try it?

    Oh yeah…many times.

  99. Harpers Hair says:

    OriginalPouzar: As I said, I’m not sure I make that trade.

    It also provides the 3C for next year for, essentially, nothing off our roster.

    Its got longer term risk, of course, but goes along way to making this team a contender right away.

    Ennis/McDavid/Kass
    Nuge/Drai/Yamamoto
    Khaira/Bonino/AA
    Nygard/Sheahan/Archie

    Neal/Chiasson will play as there will be injury (of course, one will be in at all times I’m sure – that is depth, right there)

    Nygard and Khaira where they are because Khaira/Sheahan didn’t work even a little this past year.

    Nurse/Bear
    Klef/Larsson
    Jones/Benning

    Lagesson

    Bouch on recall

    Koskinen
    Dell/DeSmith/Griess/Khubodin/Hill

    Just another brick in the wall.

  100. OriginalPouzar says:

    pts2pndr: You would be paying for past success on a player on the downslide for a player about to blossom. This is all kinds of stupid!

    There is no guarantee at all that McLeod will even develop in to an NHL player, let alone blossom. Don’t get me wrong, I think he will be an NHL player with a great mix of skill and size but he’s a B plus prospect, not a sure thing.

    Bonino is coming off one of his better offensive seasons – he’s not on the downslide (although he will be soon, I’m sure).

    Of course, teams trade away some future for immediate help now all the time so, I highly question, the position that doing so “is all kinds of stupid”.

    Are the Oilers in a position to make such a trade? I’m not sure but they aren’t trading away a sure-fire NHLer like Bouchard and adding Bonino (while subtracting a player that wouldn’t be in the opening 18 without injury) really adds balance.

    The trade also brings back a 2nd round pick – which McLeod himself was.

  101. meanashell11 says:

    For those who do not understand negative oil prices!

    A friend sent this – quick primer on how oil price turned negative:

    For those who were confused about how WTI Crude Oil could trade at minus $37 here is a short lesson in futures:

    Imagine the following…you pay $500 today and commit to receiving an escort at your house in 15 days. Cos your wife is traveling. This is called a futures contract.

    Unfortunately, lockdown came and your wife will be home for the next 60 days.

    You do not want this woman to show up at your house at all now and you try to pass this futures contract to someone else.

    Only you cannot sell this commitment because nobody can receive the escort at home anymore. Everyone is in full storage with wife in duty.

    To make matters worse, not even the pimp (Chicago Mercantile exchange) has more room to receive girls because his house is crowded with girls.

    So you will now pay anyone just to take the girl off your hands.

    Do you now understand why oil has a negative price when the contract is delivered?

  102. hunter1909 says:

    meanashell11:
    For those who do not understand negative oil prices!

    A friend sent this – quick primer on how oil price turned negative:

    For those who were confused about how WTI Crude Oil could trade at minus $37here is a short lesson in futures:

    Imagine the following…you pay $500 today and commit to receiving an escort at your house in 15 days. Cos your wife is traveling. This is called a futures contract.

    Unfortunately, lockdown came and your wife will be home for the next 60 days.

    You do not want this woman to show up at your house at all now and you try to pass this futures contract to someone else.

    Only you cannot sell this commitment because nobody can receive the escort at home anymore. Everyone is in full storage with wife in duty.

    To make matters worse, not even the pimp (Chicago Mercantile exchange) has more room to receive girls because his house is crowded with girls.

    So you will now pay anyone just to take the girl off your hands.

    Do you now understand why oil has a negative price when the contract is delivered?

    I’m still worried about what’s going to happen when that chick turns up.

  103. Lowetide says:

    meanashell11:
    For those who do not understand negative oil prices!

    A friend sent this – quick primer on how oil price turned negative:

    For those who were confused about how WTI Crude Oil could trade at minus $37here is a short lesson in futures:

    Imagine the following…you pay $500 today and commit to receiving an escort at your house in 15 days. Cos your wife is traveling. This is called a futures contract.

    Unfortunately, lockdown came and your wife will be home for the next 60 days.

    You do not want this woman to show up at your house at all now and you try to pass this futures contract to someone else.

    Only you cannot sell this commitment because nobody can receive the escort at home anymore. Everyone is in full storage with wife in duty.

    To make matters worse, not even the pimp (Chicago Mercantile exchange) has more room to receive girls because his house is crowded with girls.

    So you will now pay anyone just to take the girl off your hands.

    Do you now understand why oil has a negative price when the contract is delivered?

    Did you happen to catch the name of this escort service? 🙂

  104. Harpers Hair says:

    hunter1909: I’m still worried about what’s going to happen when that chick turns up.

    Joe is on it.

    https://youtu.be/NIzyTk1fuf0

  105. Victoria Oil says:

    meanashell11,

    Hilarious! I will have to share this with our mutual friend.

  106. Victoria Oil says:

    godot10: Zerohedge has been following this trade for the last year, watching the millenial herd of traders (who have never seen a bear market) go for the easy money.Massive global QE, NIRP, and ZIRP suppress volatility.And misprices the derivatives used to put on the trade.Like AIG selling credit default swaps to Goldmans Sach for their CDO’s and synthetic CDO’s before the global financial crisis.

    It is what Taleb would call a turkey trade.Everything is fine.It is a sure thing.Until the day before Thanksgiving.

    Word on the street is that they did a variance swap where they received a relatively small, but fixed premium if the VIX stayed under 37, but were fully exposed if the VIX went above that. When the VIX went over 80, they got crushed.

  107. BONE207 says:

    Glovjuice: Plus, Alberta has a 15 person gathering restriction. A hockey bench has more than 15. Will require a weird bench set up.

    I thought about this as well. Can you imagine, they expand the benches to twice the length ( or have some players in seats behind the benches cause there are no fans.). Games would last 3-4 hours cause during every line change, they would have to shuttle players up & down the bleachers to keep distance. For on the fly changes, have extra gates to separate. There would be an increase of too many men penalties due to communication. Would they ban spitting & licking? Would fights be not allowed as well as scrums? We would get to changing fundamental aspects of the current game just to be able to play in front of nobody!!!

    On the bright side…beer & popcorn service to the benches would improve…

  108. BONE207 says:

    Harpers Hair: Too many second pairing D is a problem.

    You have to identify a first pairing D,

    Otherwise you’re spinning you wheeks.

    LT has proclaimed: No Mistake Thursday…

    You Wheeks???

  109. BONE207 says:

    meanashell11:
    For those who do not understand negative oil prices!

    A friend sent this – quick primer on how oil price turned negative:

    For those who were confused about how WTI Crude Oil could trade at minus $37here is a short lesson in futures:

    Imagine the following…you pay $500 today and commit to receiving an escort at your house in 15 days. Cos your wife is traveling. This is called a futures contract.

    Unfortunately, lockdown came and your wife will be home for the next 60 days.

    You do not want this woman to show up at your house at all now and you try to pass this futures contract to someone else.

    Only you cannot sell this commitment because nobody can receive the escort at home anymore. Everyone is in full storage with wife in duty.

    To make matters worse, not even the pimp (Chicago Mercantile exchange) has more room to receive girls because his house is crowded with girls.

    So you will now pay anyone just to take the girl off your hands.

    Do you now understand why oil has a negative price when the contract is delivered?

    Hmmm…my date is not in lock down…have a number?

  110. Munny says:

    Victoria Oil: Word on the street is that they did a variance swap where they received a relatively small, but fixed premium if the VIX stayed under 37, but were fully exposed if the VIX went above that. When the VIX went over 80, they got crushed.

    What a stupid fucking trade.

  111. RonnieB says:

    OriginalPouzar: There is no guarantee at all that McLeod will even develop in to an NHL player, let alone blossom. Don’t get me wrong, I think he will be an NHL player with a great mix of skill and size but he’s a B plus prospect, not a sure thing.

    Bonino is coming off one of his better offensive seasons – he’s not on the downslide (although he will be soon, I’m sure).

    Of course, teams trade away some future for immediate help now all the time so, I highly question, the position that doing so “is all kinds of stupid”.

    Are the Oilers in a position to make such a trade?I’m not sure but they aren’t trading away a sure-fire NHLer like Bouchard and adding Bonino (while subtracting a player that wouldn’t be in the opening 18 without injury) really adds balance.

    The trade also brings back a 2nd round pick – which McLeod himself was.

    All of this McLeod/ Bonino speculation ignores the real question…why in the world would Nashville want a 33 year old, $4 million, 3rd pairing LD ?

  112. ArmchairGM says:

    Harpers Hair: LAK play to win every game 1-0.

    Have for many years.

    Yeah, that’s McLellan’s signature style. Or… not.

  113. ArmchairGM says:

    jp: Straight up for Neal would be something to consider.

    Nah. He’s more expensive and has an extra year on his deal. He scored just 9 goals this year and 7 last year while having less than impressive on-ice stats.

  114. ArmchairGM says:

    Harpers Hair: If only turkeys could fly.

    Pretty sure turkeys DO fly though.

  115. jp says:

    ArmchairGM: Nah. He’s more expensive and has an extra year on his deal. He scored just 9 goals this year and 7 last year while having less than impressive on-ice stats.

    Marginally more expensive, and also younger. I don’t ‘want’ Turris but he could fill a more important lineup spot than Neal is for essentially the same money. Maybe a Neal buyout is still a better move than a Turris trade (a compliance buyout definitely is) but if trade/keep Neal were the only options I think the trade makes sense.

  116. OriginalPouzar says:

    RonnieB: All of this McLeod/ Bonino speculation ignores the real question…why in the world would Nashville want a 33 year old, $4 million, 3rd pairing LD ?

    To get the 20 year old high 2nd round pick big and fast developing center….

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