The Grass Is Always Greener Over The Septic Tank

by lowetideedm

Glen Sather, fall 1983“Sammy Pollock used to say all jobs are open in Montreal but who was he kidding? Nobody was going to take Larry Robinson’s job or Guy Lafleur’s. In our camp I refuse to tell the players that. But I’d love it if somebody took a job away from a returning player. If that happened, that would make our team stronger.”

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Tarkus

Summarizing!

The only one of the eight NAmateurs to hit the scoresheet was Lewandowski, who picked up two assists.

Everyone else was denied life-giving soup and shall have to subsist on watermelon rinds instead. (Wakely did win 7 of 11 draws though, a 63.6% clip.)

OriginalPouzar

Hutson and Griffith with some give and go on the PP, Griffith back to Lepanen with a bomb to give the Condors back the lead at 4-3

OriginalPouzar

Keep deflects a D’Amato shot for a 3-1 lead.

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4th line’s 4th shift of the game

OriginalPouzar

Bad pinch and a Majala chip starts a 3 on 1 – Savoie over the Poulin who makes a meh pass that is blocked but it pops over the Regula who puts the Condors up 2-1.

Tarkus

Not an Oilers prospect, but Gavin McKenna went off tonight in an 11-4 win with a goal and seven assists.

Ice Sage

Just made the 2030 Olympic Team (never too early)!

OriginalPouzar

Giffth and Jones on a 2 on 0 – Griffth’s pass a bit too far – Wranglers come back, a clumsy zone entry leads to a quick 3 on 1 – tick, tack, toe – tie game.

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Terrible line change by the dman created the odd-man rush.

OriginalPouzar

Jones with a floater pass on a 2 on 2 to Griffith driving the net, it gets stopped by the tender but he scores on himself – a weird one.

1-0 Condors!

OriginalPouzar

Goal changed to Griffith – guess he got a piece of t.

jtblack

Jon Cooper has impressed me. He changes game to game on the fly. Everyone seems to get a few shifts and then he just goes with whoever is “going” …

May be in line for 1st Jack Adams.

Sunday will be too early to drink and too stressful to not 🙂

rev.hans

The blender can be a powerful tool. I remember Scotty using it regularly with the 70s Habs. My father hated it. As many Oiler fans hate it when Knoblauch is, as you put it, changing lines game to game on the fly.

OriginalPouzar

Jarventie also getting the night off which is an odd choice for me given he’s been so good recently – maybe they do plan on divesting of two off the current roster and calling all three deserving Condors up – Savoie, Samanski, Jarventie…..

OriginalPouzar

He’s out for “personal reasons”

OriginalPouzar

Savoie will play with Marjala and Poulin.

Samanski with Hutson and Howard.

Pickard not dressing so I presume Ungar starts.

Akey getting a rest – Regula playing with Leppanen and Dineen with Carfagna and Stilman with Brown

Lenny

I really wish Regula could spend extended time in the AHL. He’s stuck in limbo right now in a time he really needs to be playing

maudite

I like helleybuck starting.

Enough ghost stories around his play if they get to him there is s real possibility he gets stuck in head hearing skeltons rattle in closet to degree they slip a few easy quick behind him and they end up panic pulling him in play.

Like it’s at least a thought with real teeth that surely is tangibly out there in the ether.

Any element of uncertainty is an advantage in a 1 off highest pressure cooker game.

OriginalPouzar

Condors adding Dineen, Regula, Samanski and Savoie to the lineup tonight.

Hopefully it’s the only game the two forwards play – we know Savoie will be recalled for the first game back but the front office needs to make a roster move to get Samanski recalled – and they should (in fact, they should make two moves, Mang and Janmark, and call Jarventie up as well).

Reja

Anyone know what happened to Tage Thompson?

Victoria Oil

They sat him in the third period for ‘precautionary’ reasons.

Reja

Are the U.S.A peaking are is it a good thing for Canada that the Yanks are coasting? If I’m Cooper I give the U.S.A a heavy dose of the Bennett-Marchand-Wilson also Hagel to start with. Canada has to get in Hellebuyck kitchen early also draw a penalty of some kind preferably a 4 minute high stick call. I like the fact that Winnington is smart-gamer and I’m calling it right now that Jordan will draw a goaltender interference call against one of the Tkachuk brothers. Booook it………

Tarkus

Two quick goals and it’s 4-0 Yanks in the 2nd.

Yeah, it’ll be a Canada-US final.

godot10

Satan is responsible for rebuilding the Slovak hockey program. Miroslav, not Lucifer.

Tim N8R

Fun fact. In training camp the year he was eventually traded, one of his common linemates was David Pope. Pop and Satan, whoda thunk???

Ranford.85

Let’s go ex Oiler Martin Gernat and the Slovaks!

godot10

Marincin also.

LMHF#1

Sather would’ve turned Gernat into a 1000-game guy.

So many tools in that toolbox.

SVR

The Binnington hate is laughable. Saves the game two or three times against the Czech’s, gets a tiny bit of love, people eating crow, “for now”. Allows two goals that probably no goalie on the world stops this morning , gets absolutely trashed. Then saves the game again at least twice, and absolutely no respect. This guy is money. Ice in his veins

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Reja

I would have preferred 2 runs at the Cup with Winnington over the 3 runs with Jarry who I really haven’t seen much of. No way Armstrong and Bowman make that deal after the offer sheet drama.

anonymous

I would have taken whichever of Jarry or Binnington you got free with retainment. The Oilers always pay top dollar.

Reja

We always seem to be in a position of weakness. The goaltending cleansing should have happened this past summer.

anonymous

Yeah, it’s the stink of the mid nineties half decade of darkness and the Pronger no one wants to play in Edmonton.

It’s a stigma that seems to make it ok to pay second round picks for fired managers and clauses that might of but didn’t get fulfilled or paying a premium for Duncan Kieth when he had already decided he was going to Edmonton.

Buy high and sell low. The Edmonton Oilers. Same as it ever was.

Ancient Oilers Fan

I think I’d be passed off I was a(n) STL fan.

Here you have a guy who clearly has ability, as exhibited in playoffs and international games.

Yet he can’t get up for team games in the regular season.

His team isn’t worth the effort?
His teammates aren’t worth the effort?
The STL fans aren’t worth the effort?
His ego is so big that …..

If you can do it when it matters to you, why don’t your team, teammates and fans matter to you?

Reja

He carried his team on his back to a Stanley Cup just as Randord did in 1991. Ask any active or retired NHLer and it’s always the same response all that matters is winning Cups. Twirling ones moustache while giving cute interviews doesn’t cut it. He made the final save in the 4 Nations Cup. Anyone that doubts this man isn’t clutch is comical.

Ancient Oilers Fan

You have to make the playoffs first.

Scungilli Slushy

Questioning an established NHL player for having no heart is really unsupportable. If a guy was really like that would any team want them?

Ancient Oilers Fan

I’m not sure I questioned his heart.

In the hypothetical shoes of a STL fan I questioned his motivation.

Reja

Why are you so concerned about St.Louis fans? Being an Oiler fan I’m more concerned about my teams goaltending going all the way back to the Roloson run. Are you even cheering for Canada?

OriginalPouzar

I ate crow and have no issues with Binnington tonight.

I hope he’s got one more game in him – they are going to need him.

Reja

Mike Luit was the best goalie in the league in 1981. Mike had many excellent years in the 80’s but he was unable to win a Cup. Yet Mike is most infamously remembered for the 8-1 plummeting in the 81 Canada Cup Final against Tretiak-CCCP. Binnington is chasing history and his legacy. Hellebuyck hasn’t won anything but a few playoff series I’ll take my chances with a proven winner in Binnington. I’ll give Hellebuyck credit as the heavy favorites he did knock of Binnington in game 7 OT last year. Anyhow Hellebuyck is trending towards a Mike Luit kind of career and Binnington is chasing history for a Nation that can sure use a boost.

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OriginalPouzar

Fresh off the plane, Josh Samanski will play tonight………..

He needs to play one game before he can be recalled so this is important as the Condors don’t have another game until mid-week next.

Tarkus

McDavid needs five points in the gold medal game to get back to a point-per-period.

If the play the States, go get ten.

Ice Sage

Incredible resilience from Canada after serious adversity.
Hope Crosby is OK to go Sunday.
Go Slovakia!

Tarkus

We are all Slovakia today.

delooper

That game was tight. If Finland had Barkov it would have been frightful. What a game, Finland. You guys are awesome.

Ice Sage

bah – it’s a wash with Crosby gone for Canada.
Great game and the hungrier team won

Scungilli Slushy

I was thinking that, but then thought Canada could have brought Bouch which would have meant Makar could play with MacK and Bouch with McD. Would have juiced the team up a bunch 5v5

Ice Sage

With a historical nod to the Russian five of the 90’s, this Mc/Mac/Mack/Mak tetrad is the best there ever was, regardless of the 5th. Maybe a McK(enna) in 2030?!?!

Reja

I would have brought Schaefer who possibly is already more dynamic than Makar. As a homer I also would have had Bouchard on the club. Anyhow If we win 1 Cup Bouchard makes the team if we would have won back to back Cups Hyman makes the Squad and Nuge gets a look.

Scungilli Slushy

Toews Makar
Sanheim Bouch
Schaefer Doughty
Theodore Parayko

Maybe would have juiced up the 3 lines Connor wasn’t on

OriginalPouzar

Yup, Barkov would have made a difference.

Crosby would have made a difference as well and Morrissey and a healthy MacKinnon….. right?

v4ance

McDavid with 13 pts in Olympics now?

Tarkus

You speak the truth.

ArmchairGM

and 1 game to go!

Tarkus

That may be the quickest whistle ever.

TruthHurts98

Your articles are pure gold, I wish the Oilers would hire you as an advisor. Thanks for staying committed to not just posting daily, but posting darn good content!

Lenny

LT should be President of Hockey Ops.

Stan does all the work and runs all moves through LT. I legitimately think this would work insanely well.

Woodguy as Special Advisor to the GM.

jimrickett123

Yes to LT.

Parkatti is already employed by Oilers?

Lenny

yes he is

Little Johnny Frostbite

Just here to say EFF yeah!!!!!

v4ance

Whooo!

danny

Coach should’ve called Barkov

delooper

Surprised Finland took the risk. Wasn’t worth it. Usually Finland is smarter than this.

Ice Sage

it WAS pretty darn close

Ice Sage

The drama in this tourney is up to 11

delooper

Dangerous challenge from Finland.

danny

i thought it looked offside when they entered and was waiting for this

delooper

Wow, what a pass from McDavid.

delooper

Canada gets some luck. Hopefully no shorthanded breakaways for Finland in the final minutes!

delooper

Rustolainen cleanly stripped the puck from McDavid. Expert.

drewbot

What now, can plays defence to get to overtime with open ice, they get the higher likelihood of scoring or play 2 way knowing 1 or 2 shots will mean Fin gets a goal?

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danny

I think this parity is the new reality of international hockey. Canada’s biggest differentiator through the decades has been their combination of physicality and skill. In big games you could set your watch to Canada using physicality to set the tone and wear teams down.

Now we outskill teams as usual, but systems play can compensate for that in single elimination knockouts.

The game is simply not physical like it used to be. Players train skill at young ages and are educated on / value their health. The days we could rely on double dions to make the other team quit are part of an era gone by.

delooper

Canada could probably learn a few lessons from Finland. Such a plucky, strong team from a relatively small country. Think of how good Canada would be if we were as smart as the Finns.

cowboy bill

The Finns take no risks and make the most of their opportunities.

delooper

Finally some netfront presence. Marchand and Bennett do something.

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cowboy bill

That’s quite a line Marchant,Bennett & Wilson. I like it.

delooper

Woohoo! Tie game.

danny

Canada could sure use more backend skill and more up front Jam against this Finland squad. Bouchard, Schaeffer, Hyman.

Ice Sage

Theodore delivers, from Sanheim.
Gotta dance with the ones that brought ya

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The old hockeymen men mentality drives me nuts, it took a gambler in Pocklington and an innovator in Sather to take a chance on Gretzky, as one of the besy examples of outside the concrete box thinking.

I would have selected Bedard over Marchand, Hyman over Reinhart, Schaefer over Sanheim & Bouchard over Doughty for this roster.

The youth must be served and offence is a massive differentiator. One of the women’s team players made a comment sometime prior to their gold medal game about young players making mistakes (in a negative context), yup, but that is how players learn. Denying highly skilled players the experience is a form of negligence to future team success, IMO. Vets aren’t exactly perfect themselves.

However, back to the men, I think this group of younger players would have provided far more positives than negatives. For all the thrills of end of game and OT heroics that these Olympics are offering, it does not lend itself to the fable of Canadian hockey superiority.

There are better quality ( more highly skilled) players available, but the old brains take comfort in their knowledge of safe moves during short tournaments. That approach did not work in Nagano in 1998 (4th place) or Turin in 2006 (7th place). They’ve won gold 3 times, sure, but they aren’t making it easy on themselves, or old hearts like mine 😀 .

Personally I would prefer if they incorporated analytics, rather than the gut/NHL Guide & Record Book to make their player personnel decisions.

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Pretendergast

Macklin Celebrini is 19 and playing a feature role on this team.

In Nagano they lost to the greatest goalie to ever play the game. Who was left off the Nahano team? First time they ever had NHLers so not sure they knew who would be playing in the future.

2014 the youngest player was Duchene at 23. Not a feature player. Chris Kunitz was on that team and they let in 3 goals from a dcore where the youngest guy was 24 (Petro).

You want the younger players in but technically, 90% of this Canadian roster are Olympic rookies. Dubas is part of the hockey executive. There’s analytics.

This team is insanely good and in the final. Theyve controlled every game meaningfully but hockey is a game of bounces (or 6 guys on the ice) sometimes.

€√¥£€^$

It concerns me that McDavid is so heavily relied on for goal generation. With Morrisey out, only 1 dman is a reliable point producer.

This does not give me confidence in this team, because it narrows the focus for the US to stop Canada when game planning. This team has been successful despite it’s flaws.

it is obvious that the US dcorps is superior to Canada’s.This will likely be the difference tomorrow.

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ArmchairGM

Team Canada is like the Oilers – they’ll go as far as McDavid can drag them.

drewbot

always seems to face better goaltending than they get as well?

ArmchairGM

Very true.

delooper

Turning into pond hockey.

drewbot

can 22 fin 11 shots yet the score is 1 – 2, are the fins getting better shots? what gives?

Ice Sage

the difference is a (short handed) breakaway goal, so… yes!?
(also score effects once Fin went d-mode when they got uo 2-0)

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delooper

A lot of Canada’s shots have been peripheral with 3 Fins blocking the net. Finland has been given a few scorchingly beautiful chances.

drewbot

Fin deserves the W then? Not watching but checking the score online

delooper

They’re playing great. They almost always do, they’re Finland. I love Finland. Please lose Finland! There’s no shame in losing a nailbiter olympic game to Canada.

That said, the game is close. Canada’s problem is they’re not getting to the net. Too much peripheral stuff. Finland has a fantastic defensive game.

rev.hans

Seems that things began to change in the third, late second even, when Canada started (literally) crashing the net front. The word on Saros is that, as a relatively smaller goalie, he has a harder time with screens, can’t see over them.

Tarkus

Prospecturity!

A Full House Friday beckons.

Notre Dame (Fischer) @ 4 p.m.
London (Nicholl) @ 5 p.m.
UMass-Lowell (Wakely) @ 5 p.m.
Michigan (Park, Barnett) @ 6 p.m.
St. Thomas (Berry) @ 6 p.m.
Saskatoon (Lewandowski) @ 7 p.m.
Kamloops (Lafreniere) @ 8 p.m.

All times, at all times, are Ponoka time.

Ice Sage

Ah, nicely done – going to the ‘full house’ in Ponoka once meant something ominous!

Bobcaygeon

“Why should the Oilers find this acceptable? Why would Knoblauch run the same sorry lot out there to get their ass kicked? Glen Sather wouldn’t do it, I’ll tell you that much.”

I’m not sure Knoblauch has a choice, it’s the roster he’s given that has to go on the ice created by an overhyped GM.
Bowman roster is absolutely mud.
Oilers are closing in on a Peter Chiarelli roster, how long before Bowman makes a panic trade

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Sierra

I’m not sure Knoblauch has a choice

By checking player usage, I’d say that this isn’t an accurate statement.

Bobcaygeon

When you’re replacing players with replacement players that’s not a choice that’s rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
our bottom six isn’t close to being good enough, even the top has significant gaps.

Moonlight

Interesting that Sam Bennett only gets called for goaltender interference when he’s not wearing a Panthers jersey 😏

Fuhr and Lowething in Vegreville

Haha, I looked at my wife and said he’s used to getting away with murder, not nearly as effective when he actually has the game called fairly against him.

tsunami

same here, haha

Pretendergast

Grr, why is Cooper playing Mcdavid so much? Doesn’t he know he’ll be tired come playoff time?

Scungilli Slushy

Coach of the current eastern favourites. Hmmmm

But really, who else is there on that team to play?

delooper

Very few people can put away the cheat code once they’ve used it.

Ice Sage

McPrecioussssss

delooper

Celebrini’s nickname could be Nenya.

Pretendergast

Exactly. One of the best coaches of the best team isn’t immune. Preference meet reality for KK haters.

delooper

I wish NHL refs called the game like Olympic refs, when the Oilers play the Panthers. I’d prefer it if we had NHL refs today.

delooper

Wilson to Bennett there was almost a goal. Solid play.

Tarkus

Another McApple as Canada gets on the board.

Jesus, Reinhart actually did something useful. About time.

delooper

Looks like Reinhart from Makar. . . and McDavid.

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