2019-20 Game Two: Kings at Oilers

Saturdays in Canada. As kids, we’d have chores to do (my brother was allergic to cow’s milk, so we had goats, who are a little addled but you grow to love them) and maybe there was a trip to town. My Dad bought some of the first Wagon Wheels ever made at the Lloydminster Co-op on a Saturday, Orr and the Bruins hammered Toronto later that night. Music!

Everything that needed to get done was usually finished by 4pm, and then we could begin the Saturday night tradition. Bugs Bunny when we were smaller, then HNIC, and usually a game of crib or two against my Dad. I can still see the crib board, those worn out cards, the coal oil lamp (we spent a year without electricity when we moved to Maidstone) and waiting, hoping for my Dad to look at the clock and say “alright, one more game.” Thanks Dad, miss you.

Saturday night with the hockey game makes it authentically Canadian. We’re entering a season where Toronto could win Stanley, I imagine the west and Quebec will separate by August. I kid. It’s Canada’s game on Canada’s night, a six hour period where demon liquor, laundry on ice and the opposite sex combine in a magical cocktail that allows our escape from the northern winds and the lonely howls of the coyotes just outside.

We’re at the pool hall, we’re at the legion, we’re at the bar, we’re pre-drinking before a night on the town. WHY do we live here, so far north? Why are we excited about sticks and pucks and fresh ice? It’s in our blood, it’s in the air we breathe. Do you have enough CR? Mix? Make sure there’s 52 cards, the kids were playing with them yesterday. Juha Widing’s team is in town. It’s hockey night.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, we are celebrating our 2-year anniversary this week. To mark the occasion, you can get 40% off subscriptions here.

  • New Lowetide: A shift-by-shift analysis of Ethan Bear in the Oilers’ season opener
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Looking at how the Oilers can manage on defence without Adam Larsson
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: No need to temper expectations after Connor McDavid’s season debut for Oilers
  • Lowetide: Ken Holland has a plan for the Oilers’ top prospects.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: At home with Ken Holland: Packing away the championship memories and preparing for a new challenge
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Q&A: Oscar Klefbom on being a mentor, his strategy for staying healthy and saying goodbye to a friend.
  • Daniel and Jon: Ten bold (and not so bold) predictions for the Oilers this season
  • Lowetide: The Oilers are poised to break a 25-year-old franchise record this season
  • Lowetide: Jay Woodcroft’s Bakersfield Condors might be bound for glory
  • Corey Pronman: Oilers No. 9 farm system.
  • Lowetide: Oilers top 20 prospects summer 2019.

OILERS IN OCTOBER

  • Oilers in October 20150-2-0, goal differential -4
  • Oilers in October 2016: 2-0-0, goal differential +5
  • Oilers in October 2017: 1-1-0, goal differential +2
  • Oilers in October 2018: 0-2-0, goal differential -6
  • Oilers in October 2019: 1-0-0, goal differential +1

The only time Edmonton started the season 2-0 in the McDavid era, the club made the playoffs. Adam Larsson’s injury cast a pall over the postgame on Wednesday, but the kids on the farm are stacked and racked and ready. A win tonight would be a major early positive. The fact it’s on HNIC is just a bonus.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN OCTOBER

  • At home to: Vancouver, Los Angeles (Expected: 1-1-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • On the road to: NYI, NJD, NYR, CHI (Expected 2-1-1) 
  • At home to: Philadelphia, Detroit (Expected 1-1-0)
  • On the road to: Winnipeg, Minnesota (Expected 1-1-0)
  • At home to: Washington, Florida (Expected 1-1-0) 
  • On the road to: Detroit, Columbus (Expected 1-1-0)
  • Overall expected result: 7-6-1, 15 points in 14 games 
  • Current results: 1-0-0, 2 points after 1 game

I look at the road trip as a chance for coach Dave Tippett to roll four lines, but without Riley Sheahan on the No. 3 line it might be a little dicey. You can’t play Leon 26 minutes a night all season. I also wonder about the defensive pairings without Larsson. There are no black and white decisions I can see, only shades of gray. The recall of William Lagesson was a good move, in my opinion.

BAKERSFIELD GAME 1

I was impressed with Kailer Yamamoto, Tyler Benson, Evan Bouchard, Josh Currie, Caleb Jones and Shane Starrett. The entire team pursued the puck and made plays, have to be impressed with Jay Woodcroft. Yamamoto was used in all situations, including late in the game protecting the lead. The young man has the highest ceiling among the forwards in California, it’ll be interesting to see how long he spends in Bakersfield.

TONIGHT’S BLUE

We’ll find out soon enough about Joel Persson, that will inform Tippett’s decision. If he can’t go, I would expect Klefbom-Bear, Nurse-Russell and Lagesson-Benning. If Persson can go, it could be Klefbom-Persson, Nurse-Bear and Russell-Benning. Either way, fans should be confident. Lagesson is ready, Persson looks good and you have to start somewhere. I wrote an item for The Athletic the other day about total players for Edmonton this season, and part of the equation could be close to one dozen recalled Condors. Lagesson is the first. Won’t be the last.

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  1. jtblack says:

    REMINDER ALERT:

    Connor McDavid makes the game look ridiculously easy.

  2. OriginalPouzar says:

    HTJoe: I think his point was how old he was… 23 I think?

    I was responding to a post that he wasn’t elite in his first year.

    He started in the NHL as a top player, Kane or no Kane.

  3. geowal says:

    Sierra: Thank you fine sir.

    Mr Sheps has your notes covered, I won’t try to add to that, but I will say:
    -I’ve poured myself a dram of Springbank 15 in solidarity.
    -it is also a favourite of mine, though I might like the 12 better.
    -it is a fantastic distillery to visit. They’re a small distillery, do everything the old fashioned way, turn the grain by hand, peat things themselves, etc. If you haven’t been on a distillery tour I highly recommend it if you really want to understand the “old” process.

    Back to the game.

  4. Ryan says:

    We have two very bad fourth lines.

    When cave is your 3c, something is wrong.

  5. Suntory Hanzo says:

    So four goals let in that would have been stopped of he just stood in the net like a shooter tutor. Game one because of Smith and hopefully game 2 despite him?

  6. Munny says:

    Head Caved in…

  7. OriginalPouzar says:

    Yamamoto with his 2nd of the year off a nice little dish from behind the net by Gagner.

    Condors’ cut the lead to one early in the 2nd.

  8. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    This looks like a game that we were destined to lose… damn hockey gods

  9. Oil2Oilers says:

    I hate Dustin Brown.

  10. Pouzar says:

    Oh Drew. Fuck Off.

  11. OriginalPouzar says:

    Marody with the 2nd assist on the Yamamoto goal.

  12. Pouzar says:

    KNEE GUARD!!!!

  13. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    Wow… I should badmouth the Oilers more often!

  14. Material Elvis says:

    Derek:
    Nygard looks like he’s picking it up a bit, he’s holding onto the puck a bit longer and trying some things.He still looks like he’s hearing footsteps occasionally but he looks more comfortable tonight.

    And there it is!

  15. Munny says:

    Couldn’t have happened to a nicer Dustin Brown.

  16. geowal says:

    New Euros goal!

  17. Oil2Oilers says:

    Nygard is already an upgrade on Rieder

  18. OmJo says:

    Derek:
    Nygard looks like he’s picking it up a bit, he’s holding onto the puck a bit longer and trying some things.He still looks like he’s hearing footsteps occasionally but he looks more comfortable tonight.

    Yep.

  19. OriginalPouzar says:

    Big goal by Nygard off the faceoff.

    First points for Nygard and Haas.

    Go cheap bets by Holland Go!

  20. OmJo says:

    OriginalPouzar: I was responding to a post that he wasn’t elite in his first year.

    He started in the NHL as a top player, Kane or no Kane.

    How do you define elite?

  21. Harpers Hair says:

    leadfarmer:
    Of note Panarin is another elite player who was not elite early

    Of note, Panarian was being elite in the KHL.
    Scored 77 points in his first NHL season.
    What’s wrong with you?
    Seriously.

  22. gogliano says:

    Can they just go without a colour guy?

  23. flyfish1168 says:

    Cheering for RNH to get off the schneid

  24. OmJo says:

    I knew he was gonna get a breakaway attempt when he exits the box.

  25. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    Ok… all of a sudden the refs are going penalty happy… way to bog down the game guys… hard for the fans to get into it when there’s a penalty every 45 seconds…

  26. Pouzar says:

    Drew Fucking Remenda.

    I am trying here…..

  27. OriginalPouzar says:

    Shit, that two many men was very obvious.

    5 on 3 – NOT GOOD.

  28. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    This game is bonkers…

  29. Material Elvis says:

    Fuck off.

  30. Younger Oil says:

    Perfect screen by Nurse there.

  31. OriginalPouzar says:

    Damn, Bear, should have got that puck deep.

    Damn, JJ, I wish he would have got a stick when the puck was in the corner.

  32. OmJo says:

    I like how the DJ played ‘Forget You’ (the uncensored version is called Fuck You) after Doughty scored.

    It’s the little things.

  33. Derek says:

    Who was it that made the pass towards the bench while they were changing creating the too many men call? That was playing with fire, might be the difference in the game.

  34. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Complete self.inflicted loss if it turns out this way. So let’s turn it around!!

  35. Pouzar says:

    OriginalPouzar: Damn, JJ, I wish he would have got a stick when the puck was in the corner.

    This.

    Had loads of time.

  36. OriginalPouzar says:

    Josh Currie, on the Condors’ 36th shot of the night, ties the game at 2.

    Joe G. with the assist and Malone with the 2nd.

  37. Pouzar says:

    Well then.

  38. hags9k says:

    Fuckin A!

  39. Material Elvis says:

    Wooo! Depth scoring!!!

  40. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    Like I said, this game is freaking bonkers

  41. geowal says:

    It’s fun watching two teams with questionable defences.

  42. OmJo says:

    Who needs goaltenders?

  43. Pouzar says:

    That was sick Jurco.

  44. Material Elvis says:

    Nice play by Jurco. Beauty,

  45. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    How much you wanna bet LA regains the lead within two minutes?

  46. Bling says:

    New guys!!!!

  47. OriginalPouzar says:

    What a play by Jurco to set up Nurse for yet another tying goal.

  48. OriginalPouzar says:

    Oh my, first line so close to giving the team the lead.

  49. ashley says:

    Despite Drew’s gushing, I’m personally not a fan of this type of game.

    You don’t win many games in the NHL allowing 5 goals against.

    Against the worst team in the league, no less.

  50. geowal says:

    OmJo:
    I like how the DJ played ‘Forget You’ (the uncensored version is called Fuck You) after Doughty scored.

    It’s the little things.

    Part of the improved arena experience. A DJ who’s actually paying attention.

  51. HT Joe says:

    OriginalPouzar: I was responding to a post that he wasn’t elite in his first year.
    He started in the NHL as a top player, Kane or no Kane.

    Leadfarmer never referenced which year in the NHL, he just said “early”. I took it to mean “early in life”. I mean, we all know he was so good in his rookie season that he beat out McDavid for the rookie of the year… Panarin was elite in his first year of the NHL. That’s not up for debate. But it is up for debate (which is fun) if Panarin at 23 is really “elite early”. 🙂

  52. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    ashley:
    Despite Drew’s gushing, I’m personally not a fan of this type of game.

    You don’t win many games in the NHL allowing 5 goals against.

    Against the worst team in the league, no less.

    Their (LA) certainly not playing like the worst team in the league

  53. Pouzar says:

    Ok…so Jurco and Haas make sick plays on Oiler goals…Archibald, Chiasson, and Sheahan are regulars and somehow Granlund is gonna get a hat next game? Yeah I don’t think so.

  54. Material Elvis says:

    ashley:
    Despite Drew’s gushing, I’m personally not a fan of this type of game.

    You don’t win many games in the NHL allowing 5 goals against.

    Against the worst team in the league, no less.

    Drew is awful, no doubt, but Ottawa is the worst in the league.

  55. ashley says:

    Crazy Pedestrian: Their (LA) certainly not playing like the worst team in the league

    I dunno. Sometimes really bad defensive structure can make the opposition look pretty sharp.

  56. Bling says:

    ashley:
    Despite Drew’s gushing, I’m personally not a fan of this type of game.

    You don’t win many games in the NHL allowing 5 goals against.

    Against the worst team in the league, no less.

    Leafs just lost 6-5 after leading 4-1.

    They are considered cup contenders.

  57. OmJo says:

    Now the refs put the whistle away.

    L.O.L.

  58. Derek says:

    Crazy Pedestrian: Their (LA) certainly not playing like the worst team in the league

    Maybe not their forwards but their defense is basically Drew Doughty and 5 pilons.

  59. Pouzar says:

    ashley:
    Despite Drew’s gushing, I’m personally not a fan of this type of game.

    You don’t win many games in the NHL allowing 5 goals against.

    Against the worst team in the league, no less.

    2 of those were ridiculous gifts by Smith. Not too worried.

  60. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Bush league reffing continues in 2019. If only there was some way to tell if that puck went off an Oilers stick…

  61. Gerta Rauss says:

    Dy-no-mite..!

    Oilers PP

  62. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    How many point blank chances are these oilers going to miss???

    Edit: nvm NEAL DOESNT MISS!!!

  63. Material Elvis says:

    Now *that* is a power play.

  64. Derek says:

    Connor sold the shit out of that. LOL

  65. Pouzar says:

    Real Neal

  66. geowal says:

    Over /under on the Oilers sending the Flames a draft pick?

  67. OmJo says:

    NEAL!!!!

  68. jp says:

    Wow, exciting game!

  69. Gerta Rauss says:

    Dirty goal by Neal on the PP

    Yeah baby

  70. Reja says:

    Ding. Ding. Ding.

  71. OriginalPouzar says:

    James Neal – legit top 6 goal scorer!

  72. flyfish1168 says:

    Tonight Neal 2 goals > lucic 2 cheap penalties

  73. Derek says:

    REAL DEAL.

  74. Ice Sage says:

    Hmmm good trade so far. Neal bringing long-needed power

  75. OriginalPouzar says:

    Follow up the go-ahead goal with a great offensive zone pressure shift.

  76. OmJo says:

    ashley:
    Despite Drew’s gushing, I’m personally not a fan of this type of game.

    You don’t win many games in the NHL allowing 5 goals against.

    Against the worst team in the league, no less.

    It’s been a pretty exciting game if you aren’t an NHL coach or goaltender.

  77. Fuhr and Lowething. says:

    I normally try to be a really positive person, and I’m loving this games entertainment value, but literally every time Drew Remenda talks all I can think is “how does this guy still have a job”…he’s just terrible.

  78. Ryan says:

    We only need four more goals from Neal and it’s a good trade.

  79. OmJo says:

    I have to say, watching the Oilers not get humiliated and Connor McDavid rack up the points on HNiC is nice for a change.

  80. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Follow up the go-ahead goal with a great offensive zone pressure shift.

    Which continuously somehow get stopped by random LA player sticks…
    Seriously… this is ping pong at its finest

  81. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Ryan,

    Didn’t realize how physical Neal is as well. Nice bonus.

  82. OmJo says:

    It’s telling that the GWG might be a PPG.

    I was right, even when I was wrong!

  83. Gerta Rauss says:

    OmJo:
    I have to say, watching the Oilers not get humiliated and Connor McDavid rack up the points on HNiC is nice for a change.

    It’s the Randorf effect

  84. hags9k says:

    Drai with lots of defensive “good sticks” in the 3rd. What a player.

  85. Ryan says:

    18 minutes plus for the Bear.

  86. Nailer Yakumoto says:

    So the improved experience is a horn section?

  87. little.fiery.one says:

    If I hear one more story about what Drew f*ing Doughty said this morning…

  88. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Wife comes back into room after putting eldest to bed.

    Sees score. “Should I hold my breath?”

    Yes. Yes you should.

  89. geowal says:

    I don’t recall seeing that happen before.

  90. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    Oilers empty net curse is real

  91. OriginalPouzar says:

    That is an unfathomable call on Neal, no?

  92. Younger Oil says:

    That ref literally didn’t see the penalty, and put up his arm anyways…

    It was obviously a penalty, but really weird reaction from the ref.

  93. Material Elvis says:

    hags9k:
    Drai with lots of defensive “good sticks” in the 3rd.What a player.

    Yep. He really telegraphed that last pass to Neal; should have been more selfish and finished it off.

  94. Zelepukin says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    That is an unfathomable call on Neal, no?

    hat trick empty net, nah, take a penalty instead.

  95. Gerta Rauss says:

    hahahahahahahahaha,,,,

    kiss my ass Drew Doughty

  96. Nailer Yakumoto says:

    Sassy McDavid is my new favorite McDavid.

  97. OmJo says:

    Now that was a game.

  98. Reja says:

    Where’s all the Smith haters?

  99. OriginalPouzar says:

    LOVE Smith’s reaction as the buzzer hit zero.

    Character win!

  100. jp says:

    Not a Picasso, but not a loss. 2-0 start, can’t complain too too much.

  101. geowal says:

    Nailer Yakumoto:
    So the improved experience is a horn section?

    There also were some folks skating around with flags after it ended!

    On that note, I think I’ll pour another scotch.

  102. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Liverpool with a 95th minute penalty win.

    Oiler with a last minute penalty win.

    It was a good day.

  103. Ice Sage says:

    OmJo:
    Now that was a game.

    Yes!
    Good for Smith, he was stoked to get the W

  104. hags9k says:

    This game had strong notes of bananas. EFPH

  105. HT Joe says:

    Gerta Rauss: hahahahahahahahaha,,,,
    kiss my ass Drew Doughty

    +1

  106. ashley says:

    What a terrible all around play by Neal. I hope the balance sheet over the course of the season shows more asset than liability. That play was not encouraging.

    Completely unnecessary extra life opportunity given to LA for 45 seconds.

  107. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    Ice Sage: Yes!
    Good for Smith, he was stoked to get the W

    You would be too if you were at fault for two (basically three) goals against and still somehow won the game

  108. Bling says:

    Lots of good performances today.

    The new guys — Neal, Nygard, Haas, Jurco — were excellent.

  109. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    ashley:
    What a terrible all around play by Neal.I hope the balance sheet over the course of the season shows more asset than liability.That play was not encouraging.

    Completely unnecessary extra life opportunity given to LA for 45 seconds.

    He’s an entertainment man! Got to keep the fans and viewers shitting bricks while on their toes!!

  110. Ice Sage says:

    Crazy Pedestrian: You would be too if you were at fault for two (basically three) goals against and still somehow won the game

    I have been!
    Credit to Tippett not yanking him.
    And it feels good to hang 6 on Quick

  111. Pouzar says:

    OmJo:
    I have to say, watching the Oilers not get humiliated and Connor McDavid rack up the points on HNiC is nice for a change.

    Break out The Bay City Rollers!!!

  112. OmJo says:

    ashley:
    What a terrible all around play by Neal.I hope the balance sheet over the course of the season shows more asset than liability.That play was not encouraging.

    Completely unnecessary extra life opportunity given to LA for 45 seconds.

    It would have been so Oilers if, instead of getting a hat trick. Neal got the penalty that the Kings tied the game on and then go on to win in OT.

    But that didn’t happen, so… progress!

  113. Reja says:

    ashley:
    What a terrible all around play by Neal.I hope the balance sheet over the course of the season shows more asset than liability.That play was not encouraging.

    Completely unnecessary extra life opportunity given to LA for 45 seconds.

    It was a dive. Terrible reffing tonight

  114. Derek says:

    Reja:
    Where’s all the Smith haters?

    Have you been drinking? Cognitive Dissonance?

  115. HT Joe says:

    I enjoyed the fact that Neal scored 2 goals tonight. Not a perfect end to the game for him, but 2 goals.

    Did Lucic ever score 2 goals in a single game for the Oilers? I can’t remember it happening. Lucic to Neal is looking good (obviously SSS, but damnit, to enjoy the Oilers you essentially have to live for SSS events).

  116. who says:

    Bling:
    Lots of good performances today.

    The new guys — Neal, Nygard, Haas, Jurco — were excellent.

    Yeah, this is the first game Haas looked like an NHL player. Much better than Cave tonight.

  117. Reja says:

    Derek: Have you been drinking? Cognitive Dissonance?

    He gutted it out and made some big saves at the end and got the W.

  118. Nit64 says:

    Reja:
    Let’s go boys Smith won us the first game lets pot 5 or 6and bail him out.

    20-20 Precog

  119. Pouzar says:

    Derek: Have you been drinking? Cognitive Dissonance?

    No…but the guy who picked out the 2 goal scorer may have dipped into the home brew though.

  120. OriginalPouzar says:

    HTJoe:
    I enjoyed the fact that Neal scored 2 goals tonight.Not a perfect end to the game for him, but 2 goals.

    Did Lucic ever score 2 goals in a single game for the Oilers?I can’t remember it happening.Lucic to Neal is looking good (obviously SSS, but damnit, to enjoy the Oilers you essentially have to live for SSS events).

    He had 3 in the 3rd period of a 4-2 win.

  121. HT Joe says:

    OriginalPouzar: He had 3 in the 3rd period of a 4-2 win.

    Oh wow… when was that?

  122. digger50 says:

    Bear was pretty good. Lots of positive.

    Few learning moments as well.

    I was not following Persson as closely, didn’t notice him as much so that’s good as they say.

  123. HT Joe says:

    HT Joe,

    And thanks OP for answering.

  124. Pouzar says:

    who: Yeah, this is the first game Haas looked like an NHL player. Much better than Cave tonight.

    oh…y’all like him now?

  125. OriginalPouzar says:

    2 goals with the bottom 6 on the ice, 2 with the top line, 2 on the PP.

  126. barmstrong says:

    Fuhr and Lowething.:
    I normally try to be a really positive person, and I’m loving this games entertainment value, but literally every time Drew Remenda talks all I can think is “how does this guy still have a job”…he’s just terrible.

    ^ This. Terrible.

  127. geowal says:

    Pouzar: oh…y’all like him now?

    I mean…he was BRUTAL in his 2 minutes on wednesday…

  128. OriginalPouzar says:

    HTJoe: Oh wow… when was that?

    Playoffs against SJ – also had a fight that game.

  129. HT Joe says:

    HT Joe,

    Nevermind… found it.

    2017-Apr-07 – 911 days ago. I feel better about having no recollection of its occurrence. 🙂

  130. Pouzar says:

    geowal: I mean…he was BRUTAL in his 2 minutes on wednesday…

    True.

  131. HT Joe says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Haha, you DID beat my response… thanks again.

  132. Pouzar says:

    geowal: I mean…he was BRUTAL in his 2 minutes on wednesday…

    Stauffer on the wagon that Haas draws in over Cave with Sheahan coming back.

  133. HT Joe says:

    So OP, just checking… are you happy with the Lucic for Neal trade? I assume yes, but if not, would find it interesting to know.

  134. Bling says:

    Persson was a bit tentative on some of his reads and a little off on his gap control. His puck moving is a real asset, though. I really like his ability to keep pucks in and make plays at the blue while in the offensive zone, and both he and Klefbom contributed to that Kassian goal in that respect.

    Had a nice sequence in the first where he changed the angle of his stick to get a good shot on goal. Another nice cross ice pass against the grain to Drai in the third.

    For a first game, I think he did quite well.

  135. oilersfan says:

    Draisaitl was absolutely outstanding again tonight

    I hope when Sheahan is back Cave is out and Leon gets his minutes reduced, especially on the PK

    It was very generous of him to pass to Neal for the empty netter but really Leon should have just shot it in

    Jurco , Haas and Nygard all looked good with their first oilers points and pushing the puck in the right direction

    I suspect Mikko starts next game. Let’s hope it’s good Mikko

  136. geowal says:

    Pouzar: Stauffer on the wagon that Haas draws in over Cave with Sheahan coming back.

    Given all the Euro-ice adjustment factor, I think it’s plausible Haas, Nygard, Persson all improve for a while yet. To what ceiling, we’ll see. I see Cave and some others as a placeholder/backup until they get passed by those improvements (if not already.

  137. Pouzar says:

    Drai 26 min tonight.

    Tippett says that will come down with Sheahan coming back b/c he will take those PK draws.

  138. razor says:

    Two guys that stood out to me tonight we’re the Euros: Haas and Nygard. Haas made a bunch of really nice stick plays in both the D zone and O zone and the set play off the face off for Nygard’s goal was really smart. Nygard is starting to really use his speed and is showing some real tenacity, pissing off the opposition. He was good even before the goal.

  139. who says:

    Pouzar: oh…y’all like him now?

    If he plays like that every game I’ll like him plenty.
    Cave, on the other hand, bleh.

  140. Bling says:

    The Jurco dangle on the Nurse goal was incredible, but Nurse made a very heady play in corralling that pass, getting Quick to move the other way, and then shooting across his body low glove side.

    Very smooth.

  141. Oil2Oilers says:

    Taylor Swift’s performance of Lover on SNL was McDavid class good

  142. Ryan says:

    Toi data tell a story.

    Still running Draisatl and McDavid ragged.

    Draisatl 26:04. Aka the laziest player in hockey.
    McDavid 24:07

    D men

    Dreamy. 26:34
    Nurse 22:34
    Feed the bear 18:58. https://mobile.twitter.com/Woodguy55/status/1180675983898103809
    Russell 17:18
    Persson 14:49
    Benning 13:30

    encino man 6:34

    Is Benning injured?

  143. Bling says:

    Nygard was getting to a lot of loose pucks.

    He had a very tenacious back check on Kopitar in the third. Kopitar just managed to shake him, but he was thrown off enough that he promptly slipped while going into a turn.

    That kind of back pressure from the swift skating Euros is going to make things easier on the D this season.

  144. Ryan says:

    Bling:
    The Jurco dangle on the Nurse goal was incredible, but Nurse made a very heady play in corralling that pass, getting Quick to move the other way, and then shooting across his body low glove side.

    Very smooth.

    Jurco doesn’t look like a typical tweener. Lots of skill. Agreed that was a great play.

  145. OriginalPouzar says:

    HTJoe:
    So OP, just checking… are you happy with the Lucic for Neal trade?I assume yes, but if not, would find it interesting to know.

    Of course, i was happy the day it was made.

  146. Profit says:

    I was at the Flames game tonight. I watched the highlights of Neal’s goals with some Flames fans. After Lucic had 2 penalties and a couple stone-hands chances, they’re looking at each other like “uh oh”.

  147. Ryan says:

    Ryan: Jurco doesn’t look like a typical tweener. Lots of skill. Agreed that was a great play.

    Why does a Jurco have such long sideburns?

    Played 8:31.

  148. geowal says:

    I’d love it if a player actually referred to Neal as “the real deal” in a post game interview rather than “Nealer”

  149. HT Joe says:

    OriginalPouzar: Of course, i was happy the day it was made.

    thanks again!! cheers!

  150. Munny says:

    Ryan: Why does a Jurco have such long sideburns?

    Played 8:31.

    Because he’s coming of injury/procedure?

    Haas had two minutes last game. Did that reflect on his TOI tonight?

  151. Munny says:

    I have more problems with Smith’s 3rd GA than the first two, but maybe that’s just me…

  152. Munny says:

    Tabernac! 😉 Whatagame.

  153. Numenius says:

    digger50:
    Bear was pretty good. Lots of positive.

    Few learning moments as well.

    I was not following Persson as closely, didn’t notice him as much so that’s good as they say.

    I saw Persson slow twice. He showed good skill otherwise but that lack of speed could be his downfall.

  154. Victoria Oil says:

    At the game tonight. By no means was it a defensive or goaltending masterpiece, but it was one of the most entertaining games I’ve seen live.

    One thing that irked me was the fact that Neal was named first star (in the arena at least) after that stupid, stupid penalty with 45 seconds left.

    I will also be curious to go back and read the comments about Smith’s stickhandling after he was widely praised for that here after the last game.

  155. YKOil says:

    Continued progression Bear. Great rebound game for Haas. Nygard progressing.

    For a bottom-6 made-up from bits of used binder twine and gum pulled from under the seats of the pews at the back any progression – even if stop-and-start in nature – is good to see and, small sample size alert, we ARE seeing that so far.

    Too many minutes, again, for the big-3 but looking at the schedule I see what the plan is:

    – Game 1 on Wednesday
    – 2 days full rest
    – Game 2 on Saturday
    – 4 days full rest
    – Game 3 on Thursday

    So it kind of makes sense given the rest days in-between. Won’t be sustainable though, only 1 day of rest before Game 4 hits on the Saturday (vs. Rangers) and it does tighten up a bit overall from there.

  156. Zelepukin says:

    Takeaways:

    Yurko – dude has skill. When was the last time we saw any forward not named McD, Drai or Nuge, dangle a d-man on a 1-on-1 and make a beauty pass.

    House & Kneeguard – Showing skill now. In game 2. For bottom 6, that’s something that’s been missing for many years.

    Bear – held his own against their top line. I liked him with Klef but he might be even better suited with Nurse so we’ve got someone there who can pass the puck on the tape and with patience.

    Neal – He is going to score 20+. You can already see how our PP is going to cut into teams.

    Nuge – He got some good looks, just needs to bury it.

    Drai – He takes a ton of risky pass chances but I still think he is the best passer in the game. Having said that, the McD pass after he strips Doughty, was ridiculous. Often on those plays guys will feed it more towards the slot since it’s the safer percentage, but he somehow knew to feed it farther back, exactly where Drai was.

  157. Zelepukin says:

    YKOil:
    Continued progression Bear.Great rebound game for Haas.Nygard progressing.

    For a bottom-6 made-up from bits of used binder twine and gum pulled from under the seats of the pews at the back any progression – even if stop-and-start in nature – is good to see and, small sample size alert, we ARE seeing that so far.

    Too many minutes, again, for the big-3 but looking at the schedule I see what the plan is:

    – Game 1 on Wednesday
    – 2 days full rest
    – Game 2 on Saturday
    – 4 days full rest
    – Game 3 on Thursday

    So it kind of makes sense given the rest days in-between.Won’t be sustainable though, only 1 day of rest before Game 4 hits on the Saturday (vs. Rangers) and it does tighten up a bit overall from there.

    Agreed. Minutes are crazy up there but this actually a very smart strategy. Momentum in October can determine the entire season. Builds confidence right away,

  158. kgo says:

    Anyone who thinks Haas was bad in game 1, go re-watch the tape…he showed more of the same tonight and it clearly didn’t take him long to earn coach’s trust…he was out there protecting the lead with less than 3 mins in regulation…He’s fast, smart, tenacious etc…When Sheanen returns and Haas slots down to 4C he’ll be very effective.

    Bear, Persson and Lars are all average skaters, but the first two are more offensively minded and less willing to cede the offensive blue-line…we will see their foot-speed exposed more than larsson but IMO their offensive contributions are net positives.

    Benning played less than 15 EV minutes tonight…who would have guessed that?

    I’m very encouraged by two coaching decisions tonight, not to Dress Manning, and not to pull Smith.

    Anyone notice Granlund hook Kopitar betwixt the legs with 2 seconds left? Kopitar gave him two nasty cross-checks to the forearm where there’s almost no padding…Granlund’s arm will be black and blue I bet.

  159. godot10 says:

    Nailer Yakumoto:
    So the improved experience is a horn section?

    The horn section was there last year. I hope they learned new songs.

  160. Admiral Ackbar says:

    Funny what supporting cast support can get you. They did everything they could to lose this game and still found a way. I know LT calls them single meaningful events, let’s hope they got them all out at once! How many brain farts?

    Another too many men, while shorthand no less
    Penalty in the OZ trying for an EN with under a minute to play
    Smith’s first giveaway
    Smith’s second giveaway
    Cave not taking the man in front of his net

    The Kings capitalized on 4 of those! My goodness DT needs to throw down the hammer on these boneheaded plays. Still, what a win! They made us sweat for it.

  161. Ribs says:

    Ryan:
    Toi data tell a story.

    Still running Draisatl and McDavid ragged.

    Draisatl 26:04. Aka the laziest player in hockey.
    McDavid 24:07

    D men

    Dreamy. 26:34
    Nurse 22:34
    Feed the bear 18:58. https://mobile.twitter.com/Woodguy55/status/1180675983898103809
    Russell 17:18
    Persson 14:49
    Benning 13:30

    encino man 6:34

    Is Benning injured?

    This kind of hockey was unsustainable for McLellan and Hitchcock. Does Tippett have any secret weapons he can use? *sigh* They are who we thought they were.

    So far the other teams have been bad. Hopefully this continues. Rack up them points, boys. Many ugly teams get into the playoffs.

  162. hunter1909 says:

    oilersfan: It was very generous of him to pass to Neal for the empty netter but really Leon should have just shot it in

    Actually that was Leon giving a big “Fuck You” to Lucic.

  163. Professor Q says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I would be excited to watch Jurco but I believe the coach is starting the game without putting him in a position to suceed.He is not a 4th line player.He is a skill player with offensive IQ that needs to play with other skill players.Hopefully a switch is made early.I think Nygard’s skill-set can be effective in a 4th line role.

    Archibald made a couple bad mistakes with the puck but he was fantastic on the PK last game. Without Sheahan and now Archibald and Larsson on the PK, the Oilers would be best served to stay out of the box.

    Did you end up being excited about Jurco or still not?

    The pass to himself off the boards and through the defender’s legs was a very nifty move before the Nurse goal.

  164. Professor Q says:

    That last penalty to negate the Draisaitl Empty Net Goal was ridiculous.

    Neal had the puck, and immediately following him passing to Draisaitl (the stick was still in pass mode) an already-falling Carter slid into him. Nothing he could have done.

    Yet, woe be on to the ref who lets the Oilers score an Empty Net Goal.

  165. Professor Q says:

    Also, I noticed that McDavid has finally learned to or submitted to selling his holds and locks.

    This got a few penalties tonight. The League is in a lot of trouble now that McDavid will be on more Power Plays.

  166. jake70 says:

    geowal:
    I’d love it if a player actually referred to Neal as “the real deal” in a post game interview rather than “Nealer”

    Once he mixes in some 5×5 with crisp shots low blocker or top shelf, maybe.

  167. jake70 says:

    Am I allowed to say I really, really don’t like the 5 lefties on the PP1?? If Leon is your shooter on the right side looking in at goalie, fine. Nuge can’t “bury” passes if he has to stop the puck because he is 15-20 feet out, then shoot it. Ok, I will stop with this now……I think.

    Connor should have had 7 points tonight. Shoot young man.

    We’re 2-0 woohoo! 🙂

  168. OriginalPouzar says:

    Munny:
    I have more problems with Smith’s 3rd GA than the first two, but maybe that’s just me…

    So did i and I mentioned it last night.

    The first two, the puck-playing mistake empty netters will happen – the 3rd goal was a weak goal.

    Smith battled and made some big saves and plays after that. Obviously Mikko gets the stat on Tuesday but I have full confidence in Smith still.

  169. OriginalPouzar says:

    YKOil:
    Continued progression Bear.Great rebound game for Haas.Nygard progressing.

    For a bottom-6 made-up from bits of used binder twine and gum pulled from under the seats of the pews at the back any progression – even if stop-and-start in nature – is good to see and, small sample size alert, we ARE seeing that so far.

    Too many minutes, again, for the big-3 but looking at the schedule I see what the plan is:

    – Game 1 on Wednesday
    – 2 days full rest
    – Game 2 on Saturday
    – 4 days full rest
    – Game 3 on Thursday

    So it kind of makes sense given the rest days in-between.Won’t be sustainable though, only 1 day of rest before Game 4 hits on the Saturday (vs. Rangers) and it does tighten up a bit overall from there.

    They play Tuesday against the Isles.

  170. Sierra says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    2 goals with the bottom 6 on the ice, 2 with the top line, 2 on the PP.

    Clap clap

  171. Reja says:

    Professor Q:
    Also, I noticed that McDavid has finally learned to or submitted to selling his holds and locks.

    This got a few penalties tonight. The League is in a lot of trouble now that McDavid will be on more Power Plays.

    Everyone else in the league does its turning into Soccer especially with the terrible officiating last night. Connor want’s to make the playoffs bad this here.

  172. Reja says:

    OriginalPouzar: So did i and I mentioned it last night.

    The first two, the puck-playing mistake empty netters will happen – the 3rd goal was a weak goal.

    Smith battled and made some big saves and plays after that. Obviously Mikko gets the stat on Tuesday but I have full confidence in Smith still.

    Has Tippett already come out and say Kosh is starting Tuesday?

  173. Abbeef says:

    Reja: Has Tippett already come out and say Kosh is starting Tuesday?

    No, but it’s inevitable one would think.

  174. OriginalPouzar says:

    Its the perfect opportunity to get Mikko in.

    I can’t imagine it not happening.

  175. CallighenMan says:

    Harpers Hair: When in doubt…attack the poster.

    Only if it is one of your multiple personalities/aliases.

  176. CallighenMan says:

    ashley:
    What a terrible all around play by Neal.I hope the balance sheet over the course of the season shows more asset than liability.That play was not encouraging.

    Completely unnecessary extra life opportunity given to LA for 45 seconds.

    After seeing the replay I thought it was more of a dive by the LA player than a penalty on Neal’s part.

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