2019-20 Game 13: Oilers at Red Wings

All of a sudden, things are getting tight. Wins by Arizona and Vancouver on a supposedly quiet Monday night have the Oilers being tracked by five teams within two points of Edmonton’s leading pace. On the first of back-to-back games, winning in Motown is vital.

On January 9, 1984, just 131 days before the team would win its first Stanley Cup, the Oilers beat the Detroit Red Wings 7-3. It was a game that included a famous name from the 1960’s (Brad Park) and one who would play through 2006 (Steve Yzerman). Among the men who would get points that night were Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier, Glenn Anderson, Paul Coffey, Grant Fuhr, Kevin Lowe, Charlie Huddy, Ken Linseman. Danny Gare took a penalty. There’s a lot of history in every game, but that one was incredible.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, there is a Puck Drop Special offer here.

  • New Lowetide: The current state of the Edmonton Oilers goaltending. (will link)
  • New Jonathan Willis: Should the Oilers trade for a veteran NHL defenceman?
  • Lowetide: Oilers first-round pick Philip Broberg increases his role; Condors’ Caleb Jones looks NHL-ready
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘I don’t think anyone’s feeling comfortable’: Oilers’ Holland pleased but cautious amid early improvements.
  • Lowetide: Josh Archibald’s injury and limited replacements available puts some pressure on Oilers
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: 4 reasons why the Oilers passed their first true test of the season
  • Lowetide: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and James Neal are leading a quality Oilers second line
  • Lowetide: Assessing the early season progress of Oilers’ defence and goaltending
  • Jonathan Willis: A rare success during Edmonton’s long rebuild, why Oscar Klefbom is the model for finishing Oilers’ blue line
  • Lowetide: Jesse Puljujarvi’s impressive Liiga performance headlines Oilers prospects this week
  • Jonathan Willis: Can the Oilers afford to pursue Taylor Hall in free agency?
  • Corey Pronman: Oilers No. 9 farm system.
  • Lowetide: Oilers top 20 prospects summer 2019.

OILERS IN OCTOBER

  • Oilers in October 20155-8-0, 10 points; goal differential -5
  • Oilers in October 2016: 9-3-1, 19 points; goal differential +8
  • Oilers in October 2017: 4-8-1, nine points; goal differential -13
  • Oilers in October 2018: 8-4-1, 17 points; goal differential +3
  • Oilers in October 2019: 8-3-1, 17 points, goal differential +5

A loss tonight and we’ll bring last year’s team into the conversation for the first time. A win, and we can still discuss the 2016 playoff club. At this point, the 2015 and 2017 horses are well back and nothing more than a curio. Loyal patrons hope they remain such.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN OCTOBER

  • At home to: Vancouver, Los Angeles (Expected: 1-1-0) (Actual 2-0-0)
  • On the road to: NYI, NJD, NYR, CHI (Expected 2-1-1) Actual (3-1-0)
  • At home to: Philadelphia, Detroit (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 2-0-0)
  • On the road to: Winnipeg, Minnesota (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-1-1)
  • At home to: Washington, Florida (Expected 1-1-0)(Actual 1-1-0)
  • On the road to: Detroit, Columbus (Expected 1-1-0)
  • Overall expected result: 7-6-1, 15 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 8-3-1, 17 points after 12 games

I have tonight as a win, and if the Oilers can do it this year’s team will move four points past what was suggested as reasonable. In a six-month season, those four points are extreme value. In April, those four points could be the difference between making and missing the playoffs.

OILERS 2019-20

William Lagesson and Joel Persson could play tonight, but Brandon Manning is likely the strongest bet. Veteran coaches love veteran defensemen, it’s always been thus. Bob and Dustin were tweeting this morning about Kailer Yamamoto as a recall option, now, today. Yamamoto is the best forward in Bakersfield and, despite his lack of size, is a demon on the forecheck. He’ll no doubt land on a skill line eventually, but could add speed and aggressive forechecking on the No. 3 line. Recalling Yamamoto for offense alone, and putting him on a feature line, would in my opinion be too much to ask. As a third line forechecker? He can do that job, add speed and maybe chip in a goal or two. The problem? He would arrive on that third line while it is currently a train wreck. I’d be more open to putting him on the Nuge line with Neal, and moving Chiasson to Sheahan’s crew. However, waiting for another 15 games is the correct call. Put him on a line that is playing well when he gets here.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A loweded (see what I did there?) show today (took me too many years to do it, though) on TSN1260, beginning at 10 this morning. Jonathan Willis from The Athletic will talk acquisitions and the wisdom of grabbing useful defensemen when available. Ryan Holt, Bakersfield Condors broadcaster will check in on the state of the team and what we’ll see from Jay Woodcroft’s crew tomorrow morning. Finally, Andrew Peard and Corey Graham stop in and talk all things Oil Kings. 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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  1. digger50 says:

    I’d swap Connor and Nuge

    Detroit is shutting down McDavid and getting away with it. Split up Connor and Leon by swapping Connor and Nuge.

  2. drglen says:

    in way , the fact that it’s still dash 2 is a good thing. Mcd line is close.. and oilers starting to get traction now.

    could have been a couple calls go mcdavids way there…

    please Bear to PP1 if we get another chance.

    Sheehan line not even seeing the ice.. same with Hass.

    Go back to Neal with Nuge and put Jurco up there… we need a goal. Dont play Russell and Manning.

  3. Turning Tikkanese says:

    Who left the window open? We seem to have a troll in the house. Annoying little things they are…

  4. Professor Q says:

    verdad2.0:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Your arrogance is limitless
    The Oilers are probably the worst team in the NHL
    And are proving it
    And yet you don’t acknowledge or hold anyone accountable
    Fire Holland and Tippett tonight

    Is this a haiku?

  5. BONE207 says:

    leadfarmer:
    Looks like we’re going all in on one line
    Neal Mcdavid Drai
    Nuge gets his choice of Reiders

    That’s a lot of unemployed hockey players next year. I hope the farm is ready…here piggy piggy

  6. Munny says:

    Wings have allowed the most third period goals of any team… Oil need to add to that total, and stay the eff out of the box.

  7. texmex says:

    Munny:
    Wings have allowed the most third period goals of any team…Oil need to add to that total, and stay the eff out of the box.

    They haven’t scored a goal on the road in almost 3 games.

    2 in one period……

  8. drglen says:

    digger50:
    I’d swap Connor and Nuge

    Detroit is shutting down McDavid and getting away with it. Split up Connor and Leon by swapping Connor and Nuge.

    they are but line has still come close except for a couple whifs… .. maybe double shift connon with Nuge and Neal.. ? Go Nuge Neal Jurco

  9. Lowetide says:

    After Two:

    2-0 Detroit (no goals in the second)
    23-15 Detroit shots (10-9 Detroit in the second)
    26-20 Detroit Corsi 5-on-5 (10-9 Edmonton in the second)
    ==

    Game isn’t out of reach but Oilers haven’t shown much in the way of sustained chances in this game. I’ve liked the Nuge and Haas lines but the McDavid trio are not good tonight.

  10. tileguy says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Our best shooter whifs on a one-time (second blow one-timer).

    McDavid cuts to the net but backhands it two feet wide (on a play he has scored on before).

    Benning walked by AA but mark that save by Mikko!

    You said those exact words on Sunday, there ended up being no need to mark that save.

  11. Oil2Oilers says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    I agree with your point in the 1st intermission about the importance of the next goal. Pressure has now risen.

    Are the Oilers who we thought they were before the hot start – a non playoff team – or are they a team with hope? Lots to be settled this period and lots of down arrows going into it.

  12. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nice shot be Neal – keep shooting Oilers!

  13. drglen says:

    haas looked dangerous there.. to bad he lossed possession..

  14. Tbags Funhouse says:

    Kahara has to go!
    that is all.

  15. Harpers Hair says:

    Dylan Larkin has out shot the entire Oilers first line.
    That’s an issue.,

  16. OriginalPouzar says:

    Good shift by the fourth line down low – keep it going in that zone.

    Ughhh, Bear – the entire defence corps is struggling (although Nurse has been fairly good I think).

  17. OriginalPouzar says:

    Russell keeps the sting of no-talent plays by the d-men going. One for everyone.

  18. hunter1909 says:

    At least Calgary is currently losing #oilerpositives

  19. OriginalPouzar says:

    OK, its time to bang in an ugly goal and tilt the ice – its time!

  20. OriginalPouzar says:

    Great pull-away speed by P. Russell………

  21. drglen says:

    this game is like watching paint dry at the moment.

  22. hunter1909 says:

    Right now Oilers are like a poor person with a $100.00 scratchcard win.

  23. drglen says:

    wow P russell, that breakaway…. he turned away and gave the puck away… . at least take it to the net..that’s AHL worthy that one.

  24. hunter1909 says:

    Fun fact: if Oilers lose they’re still on a 107 point pace!

  25. hunter1909 says:

    RNH needs to be taken to court for stealing 6 million a season what idiot gave him that contract lol

  26. OriginalPouzar says:

    tileguy: You said those exact words on Sunday, there ended up being no need to mark that save.

    Yes a prediction in connection with sports does not come to fruition – the humanity…….

  27. OriginalPouzar says:

    Drai with the third one-timer from “his spot” and the third poor shot.

  28. drglen says:

    nice shot haas.. good save.

  29. drglen says:

    that was a good solid hit by benning

  30. OriginalPouzar says:

    drglen:
    wow P russell, that breakaway…. he turned away and gave the puck away… . at least take it to the net..that’s AHL worthy that one.

    That would be because he’s an AHL level player…. as discussed.

    “Being responsible” should not be enough to make the NHL.

  31. drglen says:

    OriginalPouzar: That would be because he’s an AHL level player…. as discussed.

    “Being responsible” should not be enough to make the NHL.

    agreed…. .. I want to say Marc Archabello Boyd Gordon caliber.. not enough.

  32. OriginalPouzar says:

    Gagner with two muffins but they were so muffin-like that they both almost fooled Howard.

  33. Tbags Funhouse says:

    Laggeson should be an easy decision for next game, maybe an injection of life into this anemic defensive corpse (yes intended)

  34. drglen says:

    mcdavid..? That was risky

  35. drglen says:

    We need a fight..

  36. Reja says:

    About time

  37. OriginalPouzar says:

    Beautiful goal – what a return pass by McDavid.

    Game on!

  38. Lowetide says:

    Hard working third nets a late result. A great effort there.

  39. drglen says:

    YES YES YES YES LEON LEON LEON..

    kinda lucky too but nice passing.

  40. OriginalPouzar says:

    TbagsFunhouse:
    Laggeson should be an easy decision for next game, maybe an injection of life into this anemic defensive corpse (yes intended)

    Lagesson was an easy decision 4-5 games ago (at least in my opinion – coach T and coach P clearly disagree).

  41. drglen says:

    screen by Kassian, five hole, textook.

    Oxygen on the bench them back on.

  42. Lowetide says:

    What a save by Koskinen. Holy.

  43. OriginalPouzar says:

    Massive save by Mikko.

    Mark that save as well.

    Bear has been burned by skill a few times tonight – he is a rookie after all.

  44. drglen says:

    Great save Koskinen.. or was it..

    amazing save.

    He kicked it in anyways, after it was dislodged.

    Bear beaten clean there..

  45. OriginalPouzar says:

    That went in but it was a clear kick.

  46. OriginalPouzar says:

    4 on 3 PP coming up.

  47. drglen says:

    Anthanasiou for Detroit is a great player. I really like that guy.. Wish he was on our team.

  48. OriginalPouzar says:

    drglen:
    mcdavid..? That was risky

    Imagine the comments re: not shooting if that pass wasn’t on target…..

  49. godot10 says:

    drglen:
    Anthanasiou for Detroit is a great player. I really like that guy..Wish he was on our team.

    No goals, 3 assists in 10 games. How is he not an Oiler! -).

  50. Tbags Funhouse says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    true, guess that’s why we are here and not behind the bench! haha
    I think they are hurting him, by having him sit this long

  51. drglen says:

    Nielson great defending for detroit

  52. OriginalPouzar says:

    Could have used a shooting threat on that 4 on 3 other than Drai (i.e. Bear).

    Man, Nuge so close to tying it up and then how didn’t that rebound go in?

  53. Professor Q says:

    I understand that they’re the best players in the world, but come on.

    How long does it take to get that constantly passing through the slot into the outer edges rarely works, and that the more you do it, the more other teams will intercept?

  54. drglen says:

    godot10: No goals, 3 assists in 10 games.How is he not an Oiler! -).

    3 assists, puts him on our top 6. but in this and the last game I really noticed him having and effect on the game. Great blow by speed there.

  55. godot10 says:

    I think Anton Lander put a curse on the OIlers bottom six when they dumped him for Drake Caggiula.

  56. OriginalPouzar says:

    TbagsFunhouse:
    OriginalPouzar,

    true, guess that’s why we are here and not behind the bench!haha
    I think they are hurting him, by having him sit this long

    – hurting the player

    – hurting the team possibly (very reasonably likely better than Manning)

    – hurting the off-season’s planning (i.e. lets see the player in anticipation of a 2nd contract and waiver eligible).

    I really don’t get it.

    Tip likes his veterans…..

  57. drglen says:

    Professor Q:
    I understand that they’re the best players in the world, but come on.

    How long does it take to get that constantly passing through the slot into the outer edges rarely works, and that the more you do it, the more other teams will intercept?

    +1 … if every one in the broadcast booth knows its coming… … we need a team meeting where we clarify that you are ‘allowed’ to shoot.

  58. OriginalPouzar says:

    Damn, Benning really having a tough game…..

  59. OriginalPouzar says:

    That was an awful dump by Jurco – it was like a pass to the goalie – zero chance of regaining possession.

  60. OriginalPouzar says:

    That was an awful dump by Jurco – it was like a pass to the goalie – zero chance of regaining posession.

  61. drglen says:

    Damnnnnnn…

  62. OriginalPouzar says:

    Well, don’t mark any of the saves I guess.

    Oh well, they get the opportunity to right the wrong in less than 24 hours.

    Maybe play the 1st period in Columbus like they are down by a pair with 10 minutes left.

  63. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Gotta play 60 minutes.

  64. StixMalone says:

    We just love being slump busters

  65. BONE207 says:

    Well that was anti-climactic.
    Back to my eager beaver…ha

  66. drglen says:

    detroit got away with lots of holding and interence tonight.

  67. digger50 says:

    McDavid wasn’t allowed to play hockey tonight and it won’t be the last time. They must have a game plan when this happens.

    Maybe play Connor with Kassian and Khaira

    Load up second line Leon, Nuge, Neal

    Tipppet didn’t seem to do much of anything

  68. drglen says:

    beaten by the bottom of the league..

    not enough… talent or desire..

    time for roster moves..

    I’d bring up Yamo… this is unwatchable right now.. it’s not working.

  69. Material Elvis says:

    OriginalPouzar:

    Maybe play the 1st period in Columbus like they are down by a pair with 10 minutes left.

    I’m sure that scenario will play out in Columbus.

  70. StixMalone says:

    Can’t expect much when this team has 1 line and the rest of the team are a bunch of plugs…..

  71. Harpers Hair says:

    drglen:
    beaten by the bottom of the league..

    not enough… talent or desire..

    time for roster moves..

    I’d bring up Yamo… this is unwatchable right now.. it’s not working.

    Yamamoto is currently tied for 113th in AHL scoring.
    Why do you think he’s the answer?

  72. Material Elvis says:

    digger50:
    McDavid wasn’t allowed to play hockey tonight and it won’t be the last time. They must have a game plan when this happens.

    Maybe play Connor with Kassian and Khaira

    Load up second line Leon, Nuge, Neal

    Tipppet didn’t seem to do much of anything

    What can he do? His has a handful of NHLers plus a bunch of replacement level guys. I just don’t see them making the playoffs.

  73. Jethro Tull says:

    Thank goodness for the last 10 mins. I thought they were so bad they couldn’t even score effects up until then.

  74. Harpers Hair says:

    Reja:
    If we Sweep tonight and tomorrow we’re back in the catbird seat and we don’t have to listen to the Canuck fan brag how great his bottom sizers are..We’re 8-3-1 and we haven’t pissed a drop they’re due and it starts in Mo-town.

    How did this work out for you?

  75. digger50 says:

    Material Elvis: What can he do? His has a handful of NHLers plus a bunch of replacement level guys.I just don’t see them making the playoffs.

    Well I just stated one idea about what he could do. Use Connor to just try and break even and win with second line.

    Instead of riding top line so many minutes he could double shift Connor, then Leon as third line center.

    He could have instructed guys to block and choke up play for Detroit as well, that game can be played by both teams if the ref is t calling it.

    Could he have prepped Bear a little? Kid was lit up.

    Have a look at Leggesson before a losing streak?

    I dunno, just ideas.

    He’s got a poor roster, I get it, I was all over this in the summer. But now he has to squeeze what he’s got available. He has t really tried much except ride the top line. And I’m really not trying to be too critical of him, any one of those bounces in front of the net could have went in and … different storyline.

  76. hunter1909 says:

    drglen:
    detroit got away with lots of holding and interence tonight.

    They flat out played better, in other words.

  77. hunter1909 says:

    Tippett’s doing a great job but in the end a 2 player(+ a few decent defencemen) team can be “got at”.

  78. hunter1909 says:

    Once more RNH produces nothing more than Khiara yet sucks 6 million off of the cap.

  79. hunter1909 says:

    lol imagine if they traded McDavid + Draisaitl “just think of the team you could end up with”

  80. hunter1909 says:

    Lucic’s team is now 6-6 something so much for veteran presence.

  81. digger50 says:

    Material Elvis: What can he do? His has a handful of NHLers plus a bunch of replacement level guys.I just don’t see them making the playoffs.

    I wanted to make another point. You may be right and they don’t make the playoffs but what I’m seeing is the top of the line is saying we can not only make the playoffs, we can make some noise. Just give us some average help. Gives us something.

    This goes back to summer … again. It’s wasn’t enough.

    And if the plan was a “development” year where the top players work thier butts off just to lose well that’s not okay.

  82. hunter1909 says:

    Whens the next game? Asking for a friend.

  83. OriginalPouzar says:

    Well, without looking back, I am confident that in 2016, when the teams started with an identical 7-2-1 record and lost 5 straight in November with zero points, the fans were just as low as they are now. Of course that team made the playoffs.

    Yes, I know there are obvious concerns with the current roster but I’m confident the fanbase was saying the same things back in 2016. Of course, that team made the playoffs.

    We said, well, at least some of us, not all, said that the hot start doesn’t guarantee playoffs but what it does is make it so the first tough stretch doesn’t crater the season – it doesn’t take team from a bubble spot to the bottom but from the top to a bubble spot. We knew there would be tough stretches and here is one.

    Gotta stop the bleeding before they bleed out and there is a chance to do that tomorrow.

    I’ll be ready to roll!

  84. hunter1909 says:

    digger50: if the plan was a “development” year where the top players work thier butts off just to lose well that’s not okay.

    They’re stuck thanks to this seasons cap restraints to bring in lower priced long shot bets re player acquisition. With a 8-4-1 record they’re doing still a lot better than say, Milan Lucic’s Calgary Flames.

  85. Harpers Hair says:

    hunter1909:
    lol imagine if they traded McDavid + Draisaitl “just think of the team you could end up with”

    The real answer is to trade McDavid and balance the roster.
    You could end up with two top six wingers, a #1 D and a couple of first round picks.
    The team would be much better.

  86. hunter1909 says:

    Harpers Hair: The real answer is to trade McDavid and balance the roster.
    You could end up with two top six wingers, a #1 D and a couple of first round picks.
    The team would be much better.

    Losing McDavid’s okay, but I won’t rest until Nurse and Draisaitl are off the roster.

  87. Harpers Hair says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Well, without looking back, I am confident that in 2016, when the teams started with an identical 7-2-1 record and lost 5 straight in November with zero points, the fans were just as low as they are now. Of course that team made the playoffs.

    Yes, I know there are obvious concerns with the current roster but I’m confident the fanbase was saying the same things back in 2016.Of course, that team made the playoffs.

    We said, well, at least some of us, not all, said that the hot start doesn’t guarantee playoffs but what it does is make it so the first tough stretch doesn’t crater the season – it doesn’t take team from a bubble spot to the bottom but from the top to a bubble spot. We knew there would be tough stretches and here is one.

    Gotta stop the bleeding before they bleed out and there is a chance to do that tomorrow.

    I’ll be ready to roll!

    The October schedule was butter soft.
    That ends tomorrow.

  88. Johnny skid says:

    Harpers Hair: The real answer is to trade McDavid and balance the roster.
    You could end up with two top six wingers, a #1 D and a couple of first round picks.
    The team would be much better.

    spoken like a true flames fan!

  89. Harpers Hair says:

    Johnny skid: spoken like a true flames fan!

    Say what?
    If you want to continue along the road with a one line team with a void in the bottom nine and a sketchy D good on ya.
    The Flames have nothing to do with it.

  90. Johnny skid says:

    Harpers Hair: Say what?
    If you want to continue along the road with a one lineteam with a void in the bottom nine and a sketchy D good on ya.
    The Flames have nothing to do with it.

    i enjoy this oiler team but just not sure of your motivation to diss them. you remind me of a flames fan that gets his jollies trolling.

  91. Lowetide says:

    Harpers Hair: The real answer is to trade McDavid and balance the roster.
    You could end up with two top six wingers, a #1 D and a couple of first round picks.
    The team would be much better.

    Sure, sure. Tell us some more lies Uncle Crazy.

  92. smellyglove says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Well, without looking back, I am confident that in 2016, when the teams started with an identical 7-2-1 record and lost 5 straight in November with zero points, the fans were just as low as they are now. Of course that team made the playoffs.

    Yes, I know there are obvious concerns with the current roster but I’m confident the fanbase was saying the same things back in 2016.Of course, that team made the playoffs.

    We said, well, at least some of us, not all, said that the hot start doesn’t guarantee playoffs but what it does is make it so the first tough stretch doesn’t crater the season – it doesn’t take team from a bubble spot to the bottom but from the top to a bubble spot. We knew there would be tough stretches and here is one.

    Gotta stop the bleeding before they bleed out and there is a chance to do that tomorrow.

    I’ll be ready to roll!

    The bottom six in 2016 scored 120 points, or 20 points each (many of the players averaging 60 games). Do you see this lot anywhere close to that?

    The cratering begins towards the 85-point season.

  93. OriginalPouzar says:

    The 2019/20 roster has issues.

    The 2016/17 roster had issues.

    The issues are not necessarily the same but both rosters were imperfect – both rosters showed the ability to win games in bunches and to lose games in bunches.

    I”m confident that in the midst of the November 2016 five game, zero point streak, the doom and gloom and talk of lottery was just as apparent.

  94. verdad2.0 says:

    The Oilers are the worst team in the NHL, even with the two best players.
    The worst.
    Holland must be fired tonight.
    A has been that is doing nothing, absolutely nothing.
    Admit the truth
    This is the worst team in the NHL.

  95. Glovjuice says:

    smellyglove: The bottom six in 2016 scored 120 points, or 20 points each (many of the players averaging 60 games). Do you see this lot anywhere close to that?

    The cratering begins towards the 85-point season.

    I was was going to post the following like seconds before your post:

    The overall forward talent on this roster has gotten progressively worse year over year since the playoff team (that team should have traded to run for the cup by the way – that year was WIDE open).

  96. Material Elvis says:

    digger50: I wanted to make another point. You may be right and they don’t make the playoffs but what I’m seeing is the top of the line is saying we can not only make the playoffs, we can make some noise. Just give us some average help. Gives us something.

    This goes back to summer … again. It’s wasn’t enough.

    And if the plan was a “development” year where the top players work thier butts off just to lose well that’s not okay.

    I think they tried to do more in the summer (eg. Connolly contract offer) but they had limited resources due to previous mismanagement and had to settle for long shot bets. Most expected them to miss the playoffs so they have defied expectations up until now. But the lack of scoring depth is going to be the ruin of this team. You are only as good as your worst players and the Oilers worst are too plentiful. They can likely upgrade two guys this summer and 2-4 more the summer after that — then they should be a legit contender.

  97. Johnny skid says:

    verdad2.0:
    The Oilers are the worst team in the NHL, even with the two best players.
    The worst.
    Holland must be fired tonight.
    A has beenthat is doing nothing, absolutely nothing.
    Admit the truth
    This is the worst team in the NHL.
    i think you already said that.

  98. Glovjuice says:

    verdad2.0:
    The Oilers are the worst team in the NHL, even with the two best players.
    The worst.
    Holland must be fired tonight.
    A has beenthat is doing nothing, absolutely nothing.
    Admit the truth
    This is the worst team in the NHL.

    Are you ok, dude. You seem wacked out.

  99. Material Elvis says:

    verdad2.0:
    The Oilers are the worst team in the NHL, even with the two best players.
    The worst.
    Holland must be fired tonight.
    A has beenthat is doing nothing, absolutely nothing.
    Admit the truth
    This is the worst team in the NHL.

    Definitely not the worst team. Have you considered meditation? I hear it works wonders.

  100. Munny says:

    Harpers Hair: The real answer is to trade McDavid and balance the roster.

    Oh the bitterness is strong with this one.

    Haha hahaha!

    Thanks for yet another belly laugh, Nucklehead fan!

    Looove having you around.

  101. GMB3 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    The 2019/20 roster has issues.

    The 2016/17 roster had issues.

    The issues are not necessarily the same but both rosters were imperfect – both rosters showed the ability to win games in bunches and to lose games in bunches.

    I”m confident that in the midst of the November 2016 five game, zero point streak, the doom and gloom and talk of lottery was just as apparent.

    So what does that mean? We shouldn’t be concerned?

    Our record was the same at this time last year too 🤷🏼‍♂️

  102. Material Elvis says:

    Johnny skid: i enjoy this oiler team but just not sure of your motivation to diss them.you remind me of a flames fan that gets his jollies trolling.

    You do know who you are talking to, right? He could conduct seminars.

  103. Material Elvis says:

    Munny: Oh the bitterness is strong with this one.

    Haha hahaha!

    Thanks for yet another belly laugh, Nucklehead fan!

    Love having you around.

    Me, too. Like I love a paper cut more than a migraine.

  104. Johnny skid says:

    Material Elvis: You do know who you are talking to, right?He could conduct seminars.

    the dude is such a waste of time.

  105. Material Elvis says:

    Material Elvis: Definitely not the worst team.Have you considered meditation?I hear it works wonders.

    Sometimes I get my t’s and c’s mixed up…..

  106. Munny says:

    Material Elvis: Me, too.Like I love a paper cut more than a migraine.

    Oh DSF’s sheer desperation to sow grief driven by his fourteen year old need for attention is far more entertaining than a paper cut.

    And this is a “man” who is in the golden years of his life. It’s hilarious!!

  107. OriginalPouzar says:

    GMB51: So what does that mean? We shouldn’t be concerned?

    Our record was the same at this time last year too

    Nope, never said not to be concerned.

    Even good teams, like the 2016/17 team go through stretches where they look terrible and much worse than they really are.

    Is the current edition a good team going through a bad stretch or a bad team? I don’t know the answer to that. I’m sure the vast majority will say its a bad team but I’m also sure that the vast majority said it was a bad team during the midst of the 2016 losing streak.

    It may be a bad team but we don’t know what we don’t know.

  108. OriginalPouzar says:

    Condors game is in the morning tomorrow for those that like to follow and were not aware.

  109. digger50 says:

    hunter1909: They’re stuck thanks to this seasons cap restraints to bring in lower priced long shot bets re player acquisition. With a 8-4-1 record they’re doing still a lot better than say, Milan Lucic’s Calgary Flames.

    Do you think we have seen all the cards? Is there anything left?

    We are capped now, but in the summer there were choices, not a lot but some. Holland played his hand, he didn’t want to give up anything in way of trades or $ either and that’s understandable. But his bets are not paying off.

    I enjoy seeing the math breakdown. Last seasons NHLe numbers should represent some points for this year, yet nothing. Hard to understand.

    Anyway, I think we have seen the team now. Strengths and weaknesses, not many surprises to come as presently constructed. I just don’t want to give back the wins before they take some type of action. A little help please.

  110. digger50 says:

    OriginalPouzar: Nope, never said not to be concerned.

    Even good teams, like the 2016/17 team go through stretches where they look terrible and much worse than they really are.

    Is the current edition a good team going through a bad stretch or a bad team?I don’t know the answer to that.I’m sure the vast majority will say its a bad team but I’m also sure that the vast majority said it was a bad team during the midst of the 2016 losing streak.

    It may be a bad team but we don’t know what we don’t know.

    No, it’s only a half bad team! Half is excellent. Averages out to middle of the pack. With a bit of help I think they can do well. Question of course is where will help come from and at what price.

  111. Material Elvis says:

    There are some lineup changes that Tippett could try to shake things up next game. Split up the three centers to start. Each guy has to carry his wingers until they can break the drought. Puts Sheahan back to 4C where he belongs. Khaira and Gagner looked passable with Nuge — that can be the third line. Get Russel back to third D pairing. He added ‘backhand pass to nowhere, up the middle’ to his tool belt tonight I see. That feeble effort on Larkin’s goal bugged me, too. He just stood there and let Larkin get a free look.

  112. Ryan says:

    Not only do we get the loss, but Tippett went all in.

    Over 26 min for Draisatl and McDavid in a losing effort.

  113. hunter1909 says:

    digger50: Do you think we have seen all the cards? Is there anything left?

    We are capped now, but in the summer there were choices, not a lot but some. Holland played his hand, he didn’t want to give up anything in way of trades or $ either and that’s understandable.But his bets are not paying off.

    I enjoy seeing the math breakdown. Last seasons NHLe numbers should represent some points for this year, yet nothing. Hard to understand.

    Anyway, I think we have seen the team now. Strengths and weaknesses, not many surprises to come as presently constructed. I just don’t want to give back the wins before they take some type of action. A little help please.

    Hindsight is everything in pro sports.

    Oilers are like the Dionne LA Kings. That team people check out yesterday’s scores, just to see how McDraisaitl have been doing.

  114. Theil says:

    Harpers Hair,

    How embarrassing

  115. Theil says:

    The anemic scoring recently is concerning, but it’s good that the early season success built a buffer zone so we’re not starting the season in the hole. The Pacific division is up for grabs with the Sharks and Flames faltering early. The Canucks are pretenders and doing what they’re best at, getting their pretentious Ugg and Lululemon wearing fan base excited before ultimately failing.

    McDavid gets four points tomorrow night, Gagner and/or Chiasson find the scoresheet, and all is back on track.

    Koskinen’s early season play is a true positive, a la 2016-17 Talbot, whom you’ll all remember was instrumental in that march to the playoffs.

  116. Ryan says:

    Was running the buyout hit on Chiasson.

    You can save $1.4m next season. Wouldn’t be too surprised by that one.

    Not many options to stem the tide.

    Too early for teams to sell. Not much forward help on the farm.

    Maybe you could trade Larsson for a forward after he returns.

    Any spare Leivos kicking around the NHL?

  117. dunterpunter says:

    This game destroyed this forums logic tonight it looks like.

    Unless I’m picking up on some sarcastic remarks.

  118. Ribs says:

    When you lose against a team that plays a 5’8″, 180lb defenceman named “Joe Hicketts” for over 17 minutes, you might have a problem. Seriously, look at the Wings lineup for this game. Who are these guys? Some guy named Filip Hronek led both teams in ice time with over 26 minutes (he finished the Oilers off with the empty netter to boot).

    It doesn’t get easier than this! *facepalm*

    Still early, still early. Dipping into the banked points jar, but it’s not even a quarter full. Damn.

  119. OriginalPouzar says:

    digger: Do you think we have seen all the cards? Is there anything left?

    We are capped now, but in the summer there were choices, not a lot but some. Holland played his hand, he didn’t want to give up anything in way of trades or $ either and that’s understandable.But his bets are not paying off.

    I enjoy seeing the math breakdown. Last seasons NHLe numbers should represent some points for this year, yet nothing. Hard to understand.

    Anyway, I think we have seen the team now. Strengths and weaknesses, not many surprises to come as presently constructed. I just don’t want to give back the wins before they take some type of action. A little help please.

    A few of his bets have paid off:

    – Lucic for Neal with a bit retained and a conditional 3rd

    – Mike Smith

    – Nygard may still but we don’t know

    – Archie was dead at 5 on 5 production but he was the top PK guy and that was important.

  120. OriginalPouzar says:

    The first lineup change that should make a solid difference is to re-insert Joel Persson – hopefully its soon.

    Helps the top 4 transition game

    Helps Klefbom

    Helps the third pairing by switching Manning for Russell

  121. Jethro Tull says:

    Ryan:
    Was running the buyout hit on Chiasson.

    You can save $1.4m next season. Wouldn’t be too surprised by that one.

    Not many options to stem the tide.

    Too early for teams to sell. Not much forward help on the farm.

    Maybe you could trade Larsson for a forward after he returns.

    Any spare Leivos kicking around the NHL?

    Ken isn’t going to buy out a player he signed.

  122. Jethro Tull says:

    Jethro Tull:
    Holy Fudge, what the hell is that?

    I thought one of Tipp’s defining traits was that he DIDN’T McBlender.

    Detroit might win this.

    Me, posterbating!

  123. BONE207 says:

    Jethro Tull: Me, posterbating!

    Can you write those kind of things on the internet?

  124. Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual says:

    Ribs:
    When you lose against a team that plays a 5’8″, 180lb defenceman named “Joe Hicketts” for over 17 minutes, you might have a problem. Seriously, look at the Wings lineup for this game. Who are these guys? Some guy named Filip Hronek led both teams in ice time with over 26 minutes (he finished the Oilers off with the empty netter to boot).

    It doesn’t get easier than this! *facepalm*

    Still early, still early. Dipping into the banked points jar, but it’s not even a quarter full. Damn.

    In fairness, the fact that you don’t have an idea who Hronek is isn’t a sign of his lack of quality 😉

  125. Ribs says:

    Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual: In fairness, the fact that you don’t have an idea who Hronek is isn’t a sign of his lack of quality

    I was being a bit facetious there, to be true 😉 .

  126. Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual says:

    Ribs,

    In that case, fuck me 😅 Carry on!

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