2019-20 Game 18: Devils at Oilers

Taylor Hall playing in Edmonton has always been a worthwhile evening. As a road warrior, against the Oilers, fans are struck with something between melancholy and blind rage. It’s this century’s ‘trade the city never forgave’ and I remain convinced the Oilers will make a run at Hall when the opportunity presents.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, there is a Puck Drop Special offer here.

  • New Lowetide: Oilers are closer to having an effective second line than a year ago, but few have noticed
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: The beauty of a good night’s sleep can be elusive for many NHL players
  • New Jonathan Willis: Why the Oilers were wise to gamble on Tomas Jurco, even though it didn’t pan out
  • Jonathan Willis: The unlikely goalie performances underpinning the Oilers’ hot start
  • Lowetide: How far away is Evan Bouchard and what role will he play with the Oilers?
  • Scott Wheeler: Analyzing Jesse Puljujarvi’s play in Finland to see what he could offer as an NHLer
  • Jonathan Willis: Oilers right to wait until they’re sure before recalling Kailer Yamamoto, Tyler Benson
  • Lowetide:  Can Leon Draisaitl score more than 50 goals this season?
  • Lowetide: Bakersfield Condors coaching staff continues to mold unheralded players into legit NHL prospects.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Oilers Mailbag: Fixing the forward depth, slotting the big three, a Puljujarvi trade and more
  • Minnia Feng: The 2019-20 Oilers fan guide to emotions and stressful circumstances
  • Jonathan Willis: How much will the Oilers have to pay to keep pending free agent Zack Kassian?
  • Lowetide: Sheahan hurt, Oilers in need of a two-way centre; some candidates emerging
  • Jonathan Willis: Handicapping the chase for the Calder after the first month of the 2019-20 NHL season
  • Jonathan Willis: Unproductive Oilers forwards are in danger of losing their jobs — and soon
  • Lowetide: Analyzing the current state of the Edmonton Oilers goaltending.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘I don’t think anyone’s feeling comfortable’: Oilers’ Holland pleased but cautious amid early improvements.
  • Jonathan Willis: A rare success during Edmonton’s long rebuild, why Oscar Klefbom is the model for finishing Oilers’ blue line
  • Jonathan Willis: Can the Oilers afford to pursue Taylor Hall in free agency?
  • Lowetide: Oilers top 20 prospects summer 2019.

OILERS AFTER 18 GAMES

  • Oilers in 2015: 6-12-0, 12 points; goal differential -11
  • Oilers in 2016: 9-8-1, 19 points; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in 2017: 7-9-2, 16 points; goal differential -7
  • Oilers in 2018: 9-8-1, 19 points; goal differential -4
  • Oilers in 2019: 10-5-2, 22 points; goal differential +4

Once again this year’s Oilers have a chance to gain some real clearance from the ghost of November’s past. A win tonight gets the team 25 percent of the way to the playoffs in only 22 percent of the schedule. Okay, okay, but it would be cool.

OILERS IN NOVEMBER

  • Oilers in November 2015: 2-2-0, four points; goal differential 0
  • Oilers in November 2016: 2-1-1, five points; goal differential -2
  • Oilers in November 2017: 2-2-0, four points; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in November 2018: 2-2-0, four points; goal differential 0
  • Oilers in November 2019: 1-1-1, three points; goal differential -1

Each of the McDavid seasons have resembled what we’re seeing here, ‘fits and starts’ and then the gales of November come slashing. You’d like to see a winning streak here, maybe the fresh troops who arrive starting tonight will jump start the team.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN NOVEMBER

  • On the road to: PIT (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: ARI, STL, NJD (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 0-1-1)
  • On the road to: ANA, SJS (Expected 1-0-1)
  • At home to: COL, DAL (Expected 1-1-0)
  • On the road to: SJS, LAK, VEG, ARI, COL (Expected 2-3-0)
  • At home to: VAN (Expected 1-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 7-6-1, 15 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 1-1-1, 3 points after three games

I projected Edmonton to finish this segment 2-2-0, a win tonight puts them 2-1-1 and a point ahead of my predicted pace. The team then heads out for two road games and then the toughest game of the month against Colorado Avalanche. Seven wins predicted, getting a second one tonight puts the Oilers in a good spot.

OILERS 2019-20

We may see lines and pairings as above tonight, I’m interested to see if Joel Persson draws back so quickly after getting stapled to the bench. Also, Josh Archibald has been a real disappointment, I’ll be looking for him to show far more than we’ve seen so far this year.

HOLLAND ATLANTIC CROSSING

Apparently Ken Holland won’t be making the trip to Finland to observe Jesse Puljujarvi. As with all things JP, it’s possible to read any and all into this new piece of news. Oilers could use a scoring winger about now, and a No. 3 center too. I maintain, and have since this story first broke, the only way Holland has this reflect badly on him is by taking less than 100 cents on the dollar in return for the big winger. Problem is: What is full value for Jesse Puljujarvi right now?

TAYLOR HALL, Y’ALL

I’ve suggested all down the line that Edmonton is an option for Hall. People look at me like I’ve gone mad, but in all honesty he’s a terrific option. How many scoring forwards who will be UFA in summer 2020 are a better fit? Edmonton could check down to Mike Hoffman but Hall is more dynamic.

CONDORS 2019-20

We’re a month or so away from recalls, I think Caleb Jones is the only player so far to have earned one. Tyler Benson, Kailer Yamamoto and Cooper Marody have shown flashes, but will need to push more to create separation. Condors play tonight at home against the porous San Diego Gulls. A big chance for the prospects to get some black ink.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, we begin the weekend a little early on TSN1260. Steve Lansky from Big Mouth Sports will talk CFL broadcasts and live mic, plus the Oilers and all of Canada’s teams so far this season. Matt Iwanyk talks Eskimos and eastern semi just after 11 and we’ll talk Oilers game, waivers and panic if the home team loses at Rogers tonight.

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  1. OriginalPouzar says:

    who: Sorry I wasn’t very clear. I was talking about Benning.

    Oh, I see, yes, that is much different than Larsson.

    Benning is proving to be an elite 3rd pairing d-man (and is fairing well when moved up to play with Klef) but, yes, there is a definite chance that Lagesson or Jones are able to fill it on the 3rd pairing without too much of a drop off – different skill-sets than Benning but each with different pluses.

    The balance gets effed but, depending on return, I’m not adverse to moving Benning but I wouldn’t want to move him in the name of making room for a kid – more injuries are going to happen.

    Brandon Manning should NOT be an option of Jones (or Lagesson).

  2. OriginalPouzar says:

    HarpersHair: I know…don’t tell OP.
    As the shooting percentage drops, the results are cratering.

    I’m very well aware of this but that is nowhere in the vacinity of -9 – empty net goals are a thing.

    I never posited that Neal’s shooting percentage wouldn’t come down.

    I also won’t posit that Nugent-Hopkin’s shooting percentage will remain below 3%.

  3. drglen says:

    Aside, since game not started yet, .. Claude Giroux is 31 and on the books for two more years with PHilly. such a great player. Hall and Giroux on the same team would be something I’d like to see. Giroux would look great as an Oiler, but I dont’ think that would ever happen.

    Hall’s probably going to some sleeper team that nobody thinks of… the way that Karlson went to San Jose. Hall might go to San Jose.

  4. Andy Dufresne says:

    Lowetide:
    Oilers WITH Hall

    Line 1 Leon-McD-Neal 26.75M
    Line 2 Hall-Nuge-Yamamoto 17.894M (Hall 11)
    Line 3 Benson-Sheahan-Chiasson 3.76M
    Line 4 Khaira-McLeod-Archibald 3.4M
    Extras Gambardella, Cave 1.4M

    Forwards: 53.204 M

    Pairing One Klefbom-Larsson 8.3M
    Pairing Two Nurse-Bear 7.47M
    Pairing Three Jones-Bouchard 1.75M
    Extra: Lagesson .850M

    Defense: 18.37 M

    Goalie One Koskinen 4.5M
    Goalie Two Starrett .900

    Goal: 5.4 M

    Buyouts and sundry: 4.583 M

    Projected cap (est): 82.5 M
    Projected cap hit: 81.557M

    ==

    Thank you for doing the math…for showing it is possible…but

    I dont like it.

    Dont like it at all.

    Besides the big 3 Leon, Conner and Hall…….that is a very weak forward group imo.

    Would rather see the Hall money spread thorughout the lineup.

    Just one mans opinion.

    #KassianIsABeast
    #KassianIsAsMuchAGiftAsBear

    #StayTheCourse
    #McDavidMulligan

    Major Qualifier: NHL teams may a have a better view to future salary cap than I/we do.

    If they are predicting the cap to rise by 10%or more in the next two years then we could potentially have Hall and cap space for an enhanced forward group.

  5. Harpers Hair says:

    OriginalPouzar: In that period, -4.

    Not quite the same as -9.

    What is his overall 5×5 goal differential?

  6. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lowetide:
    Oilers WITH Hall

    Line 1 Leon-McD-Neal 26.75M
    Line 2 Hall-Nuge-Yamamoto 17.894M (Hall 11)
    Line 3 Benson-Sheahan-Chiasson 3.76M
    Line 4 Khaira-McLeod-Archibald 3.4M
    Extras Gambardella, Cave 1.4M

    Forwards: 53.204 M

    Pairing One Klefbom-Larsson 8.3M
    Pairing Two Nurse-Bear 7.47M
    Pairing Three Jones-Bouchard 1.75M
    Extra: Lagesson .850M

    Defense: 18.37 M

    Goalie One Koskinen 4.5M
    Goalie Two Starrett .900

    Goal: 5.4 M

    Buyouts and sundry: 4.583 M

    Projected cap (est): 82.5 M
    Projected cap hit: 81.557M

    ==

    Just some random thoughts:

    That is a young defence.

    Yikes to the bottom 6 including a center that isn’t even playing center right now in the AHL and the 3C is still a 4C.

    Assumes clean disposition of Russell.

    How is Koski needing to play 65 games?

    I can’t imagine Nurse/Bear comes in at $7.47M – Nurse himself may not be much less.

    Which d-men come up when injuries hit – Sammy? Who else, Berglund?

    Not positive the team isn’t better with $11M spent elsewhere.

  7. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Hoping for a good organized effort from the lads! I have noticed they are doing better in trying to generate HDSC off the cycle, which I had whined about. Good on the coaches and players.

    No team stays flush with cap if not a budget team. The Avs are good with cap now, but in 2 years they have concerns. Landeskog needs a contract, Makar as well. They have to be careful. They also aren’t a top revenue team AFAIK

    Holland would have to move Neal to make cap for Hall. The key to me in signing him is trade protection. If he can be moved in the latter part less worries.

  8. OriginalPouzar says:

    HarpersHair: The cap should be higher.
    Sports betting is going to kick in next season.
    Impossible to say how much though.

    Cap isn’t projected to be much higher for next season. Any revenue from the sports betting for next season won’t effect the cap that is set in late June.

  9. leadfarmer says:

    OriginalPouzar: Cap isn’t projected to be much higher for next season.Any revenue from the sports betting for next season won’t effect the cap that is set in late June.

    Yeah as they try to get escrow under control next year I would not expect cap to increase by more than a million

  10. Scungilli Slushy says:

    OriginalPouzar: Just some random thoughts:

    That is a young defence.

    Yikes to the bottom 6 including a center that isn’t even playing center right now in the AHL and the 3C is still a 4C.

    Assumes clean disposition of Russell.

    How is Koski needing to play 65 games?

    I can’t imagine Nurse/Bear comes in at $7.47M – Nurse himself may not be much less.

    I think we all might have some ingrained worries about the GM being able to trade. I think Holland can. KR is moveable next summer, he is a useful player and many teams value players like him. Just a year too soon.

  11. ArmchairGM says:

    Lowetide:
    Oilers WITH Hall

    Line 1 Leon-McD-Neal 26.75M
    Line 2 Hall-Nuge-Yamamoto 17.894M (Hall 11)
    Line 3 Benson-Sheahan-Chiasson 3.76M
    Line 4 Khaira-McLeod-Archibald 3.4M
    Extras Gambardella, Cave 1.4M

    Forwards: 53.204 M

    Pairing One Klefbom-Larsson 8.3M
    Pairing Two Nurse-Bear 7.47M
    Pairing Three Jones-Bouchard 1.75M
    Extra: Lagesson .850M

    Defense: 18.37 M

    Goalie One Koskinen 4.5M
    Goalie Two Starrett .900

    Goal: 5.4 M

    Buyouts and sundry: 4.583 M

    Projected cap (est): 82.5 M
    Projected cap hit: 81.557M

    ==

    Nurse-Bear will be higher for sure. I don’t see how Nurse comes in less than Morrissey ($6.25) while I’d like to see Bear signed with term ($3 x 5 as I laid out in a previous thread), making that pair $9.25M. Maybe Hall takes less than $11M? I sure hope so, just based on the fact that he has produced just 60 points per season over his career so far.

  12. OriginalPouzar says:

    HarpersHair: What is his overall 5×5 goal differential?

    -2

    The 8 goal contribution to the leagues 2nd best PP – yup, I’ll take it.

    Now, I’m done doing your research.

  13. Andy Dufresne says:

    My keepers are….the top line

    McDavid
    Draisaitl
    Kassian

    Id move Nuge if the return was good.

    If Neil has a good year, Id move him and get that contract off the books.

    Eventually Id do whatever I could to bring in a top tier goaltender.

    IMO More than 50% of this (forward) roster will be turned over before we contend for the cup.

    It will take 2 years.

  14. Andy Dufresne says:

    Dave Tippet

    “Its Different”

    F’ing HILARIOUS!

    #TippettIsTerrific

  15. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Each of the 3 C’s need different wingers, so who they acquire depends on what the outlook is.

    Connor needs a guy like Leon that carries responsibility. Nuge says and I agree that he needs a speedy scoring type.

    Leon is such a driver he can play with a lot of types, but they need to cash. He may be able to do well with a playmaking winger like Benson. I don’t think that suits Connor or Nuge.

    Nuge is a smaller size so he needs some jam to support him. Connor as well as he isn’t smaller but his game isn’t a board game at this point.

    Kreider might be a nice fit having what 2 of the C’s need and not costing a ton.

    I lean to thinking Holland will work to have the two drivers on their own lines as soon as he can .

  16. Harpers Hair says:

    OriginalPouzar: -2

    The 8 goal contribution to the leagues 2nd best PP – yup, I’ll take it.

    Now, I’m done doing your research.

    So he’s giving up more than he’s giving in the metric you said smart people value.
    Now try the most important metric of all…P/60 5v5 which normalization for useage and is also an indication of team depth.
    I’ll get your research started:
    1. Pasternak
    2. Marchand
    3. Petterson.

  17. Andy Dufresne says:

    Personally, If Hall signs here for a hometown discount (even though his hometown is Calgary) then great. Otherwise I’d really like to see him re-up with the New Jersey Devils.

    Certainly dont want him in the West..and ceratinly not in Calgary, Vancouver, or Colorado

  18. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lavoie held pointless in his firm game back with Halifax after a great two games against Russia (may have just made Team Canada). Only four shots on net in a 4-1 loss.

    Brind’Amour pointless so far in the third but has 3 shots on net and is 8W/4L in the faceoff circle.

    Kemp with 3 shots on net for Yale in the 3rd.

    McPhee with a couple assists and a couple of shots and Rasanen with 4 shot and 6W/3L in the circle as B. College is up 4-0 in the third.

    Condors in an hour – Jurco not playing but Cave is.

  19. Yeti says:

    Scungilli Slushy: I lean to thinking Holland will work to have the two drivers on their own lines as soon as he can .

    I wondered when we might see Nuge and Drai swap lines.

  20. OilClog says:

    Adding Hall to this team would make up for so much pain and torment these bastards have put us through regardless what the group of discreditors have to say.

    Predicting future injuries and clearly not looking at the type of previous injuries is just screaming that somehow opinion is fact, be wiser.

  21. OriginalPouzar says:

    HarpersHair: So he’s giving up more than he’s giving in the metric you said smart people value.
    Now try the most important metric of all…P/60 5v5 which normalization for useage and is also an indication of team depth.
    I’ll get your research started:
    1. Pasternak
    2. Marchand
    3. Petterson.

    What is your point?

    Yes, 5 on 5 is important largely b/c it removes empty net goals.

    I think 8 PP goals is material and more than makes up for the -2 often playing with AHL players on his line.

    You mentioned the other day guys like Tanner Pearson and Michael Ferland as examples of the great depth of the Canucks, they also have negative goal differentials and have not contributed materially on the PP.

    I’m going to ignore you now to watch the game.

    Talk to you after when we’ll figure out which metric, points i the standings or points percentage is important that night – we know it changes based on circumstances.

  22. OriginalPouzar says:

    AndyDufresne:
    Personally, If Hall signs here for a hometown discount (even though his hometown is Calgary) then great. Otherwise I’d really like to see him re-up with the New Jersey Devils.

    Certainly dont want him in the West..and ceratinly not in Calgary, Vancouver, or Colorado

    Would love the flames to pay him over $10M per year until he’s 35-36.

    He wasn’t worth that in his 24-28 years, mainly due to injury, don’t imagine him being worth it for his declining 30s.

  23. OilClog says:

    Imagining leaving the 2 drivers together and adding a 3rd driver to follow them up.. Kreider is not a driver, his season high of 53 is not screaming to me that he’d bring to the team what Hall would.

    He’s also been injured constantly, never playing a complete season, so if by standard injury grading of future events the Oilers may get an aging power forward for about 63% of the time at a depreciating value. Could of just signed Maroon at that point

  24. OriginalPouzar says:

    Alright Oilers, lets win this damn game!

  25. drglen says:

    here we go
    sheehan needs a big game. Chaisson needs to do something.

  26. OilClog says:

    Watching Hall in a Flames Jersey for the next decade would be how Calgary feels about the Neal for Lucic trade.. for every year of the Hall contract.

    Personally I have no interest to know what the other side of that deal feels like.

  27. drglen says:

    Id like to see Khaira win more of these corner battles..

  28. drglen says:

    oooh dangerous chances for devils..

  29. Pouzar says:

    F^ck these jerseys. My eyes are bleeding.

  30. leadfarmer says:

    OilClog:
    Watching Hall in a Flames Jersey for the next decade would be how Calgary feels about the Neal for Lucic trade.. for every year of the Hall contract.

    Personally I have no interest to know what the other side of that deal feels like.

    Don’t see it
    In 2 years TkaCooke and Gaudreau will be paid 10 mil plus Each
    It’s one thing to have 30 mil plus tied up in 3 forwards but 3 wingers?? That’s crazy

  31. OriginalPouzar says:

    That was some fantastic puck movement by the top line and the Nurse/Bear pairing – great stuff.

    Started off by a great defensive zone play by Klef that started them on the transition.

  32. drglen says:

    really nice looking shift .. more pucks to the net thanks mr bear

  33. drglen says:

    ooh.. nJ almost scored on giveaway. Perrson you don’t have time there..

  34. OriginalPouzar says:

    Interesting that the coaches put out the 4th line and 3rd pairing for an own zone faceoff against the Devils’ top line – after a TV time out.

  35. OriginalPouzar says:

    Mikko with a couple solid saves early.

  36. drglen says:

    ooh almost a goal by simmons nice stop kosky, but .. NJ is getting close

    Alex, . that was a dirty play actually.

  37. OriginalPouzar says:

    Louie: just for some info, Simmonds was a very solid power forward but he’s now in a four year regression.

    His 1G is not surprising and, no, he may not go on a hot streak.

    *knock on wood*

  38. Munny says:

    Five Devs within 6 feet of their net

  39. Zelepukin says:

    drglen: Perrson you don’t have time there..

    I find this is a common call out this season and not just for Perrson.

  40. Zelepukin says:

    Hall knew to go glove right away.

  41. OriginalPouzar says:

    I agree with Nurse’s thought on the slap pass as a shot on net is not beating the goalie from there with no screen – the execution wasn’t there though.

  42. Munny says:

    Bear a little shocked by Hall’s speed there

  43. drglen says:

    ooh hall off the post… got past bear..

  44. OriginalPouzar says:

    Good job by the 3rd (should be 4th) line to draw a PIM – Sheahan.

  45. GMB3 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Louie: just for some info, Simmonds was a very solid power forward but he’s now in a four year regression.

    His 1G is not surprising and, no, he may not go on a hot streak.

    *knock on wood*

    He’s getting PDO’d pretty hard.

  46. drglen says:

    ok put bear on

  47. OriginalPouzar says:

    Looks like McDavid is making a point of shooting more on the PP – I like that but his two shots selected on that PP were poor.

  48. Munny says:

    PP2 sighting

  49. jp says:

    Scungilli Slushy:

    I lean to thinking Holland will work to have the two drivers on their own lines as soon as he can .

    I’ve been thinking about this crazy idea, involving the two drivers on different lines.

    Nuge and Benning
    for
    Hall and Zacha

    Not that Jersey needs another C, or particularly a RD. And it’s kinda shuffling the deck chairs. And Hall would need to be willing to sign for something under $10M.

    Neal-McDavid-Kassian
    Hall-Draisaitl-Gagner
    Khaira-Zacha-Chiasson
    Granlund-Sheahan-Archibald
    Haas-Russell

    Klefbom-Larsson
    Nurse-Bear
    Russell-Persson
    Manning

  50. drglen says:

    Haas is PP2 centre

  51. Munny says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    I thought the same

  52. Zelepukin says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Looks like McDavid is making a point of shooting more on the PP – I like that but his two shots selected on that PP were poor.

    The problem is that forehand side boards curl off the pass, puts him a good stride closer to the d-man who just takes one step closer and really cuts off McD’s space to get a good shot. Like you can see that PP shot coming.

  53. Pouzar says:

    Yeah this game is uninteresting.

  54. OriginalPouzar says:

    Zelepukin:
    Hall knew to go glove right away.

    How many goals have been scored high glove on Mikko that wern’t likely to go in on the vast majority of goalies? 0? 1?

  55. Munny says:

    This (so far) strikes me as being a little too wide open for a Tippett Team.

  56. OriginalPouzar says:

    Great 1 on 1 there by Benning on Hall.

  57. leadfarmer says:

    jp: I’ve been thinking about this crazy idea, involving the two drivers on different lines.

    Nuge and Benning
    for
    Hall and Zacha

    Not that Jersey needs another C, or particularly a RD. And it’s kinda shuffling the deck chairs. And Hall would need to be willing to sign for something under $10M.

    Neal-McDavid-Kassian
    Hall-Draisaitl-Gagner
    Khaira-Zacha-Chiasson
    Granlund-Sheahan-Archibald
    Haas-Russell

    Klefbom-Larsson
    Nurse-Bear
    Russell-Persson
    Manning

    Umm we take that deal and run

  58. OriginalPouzar says:

    GMB: He’s getting PDO’d pretty hard.

    For four years?

  59. Zelepukin says:

    man, a lot of terrible break-out passes aside from Bear.

  60. drglen says:

    OriginalPouzar: How many goals have been scored high glove on Mikko that wern’t likely to go in on the vast majority of goalies? 0? 1?

    they’ll keep shooting there until he proves that can stop them routinely. Can’t beat a perfect shot though!

  61. leadfarmer says:

    It would be nice if we had more than 1 line that could score 5v5
    When Mcdavids line finishes their shift you can use the bathroom and grab a beer without worrying you will miss us scoring

  62. OriginalPouzar says:

    Pouzar:
    Yeah this game is uninteresting.

    I’ve seen less sloppy periods with less shitty passing and execution, however, I am highly interested.

  63. OriginalPouzar says:

    Selfish penalty by Nurse – sigh.

  64. drglen says:

    Chaisson not showing much yet tonight.. he’s got the boost needs to do something.

    Kass might end up going down and neal up..

  65. Munny says:

    that was a love tap

  66. Professor Q says:

    So Wood takes a late hit and a slash to Nurse and Darnell is the only one who gets a penalty?

  67. OriginalPouzar says:

    Archie and Sheahan as PK1 – good to have those two guys back – PK lost the last game.

  68. leadfarmer says:

    OriginalPouzar: How many goals have been scored high glove on Mikko that wern’t likely to go in on the vast majority of goalies? 0? 1?

    Who are you and what have you done with original Original Pouzar?

  69. drglen says:

    Nurse gets tagged for that? Damm…

    even up please.

  70. Munny says:

    Two games where the refs ignored virtually every slash delivered and then they call that one.

  71. OriginalPouzar says:

    Solid, solid PK.

  72. GMB3 says:

    OriginalPouzar: For four years?

    ….. obviously this year… you were referencing Louie’s comment about having a slow start.

  73. Munny says:

    leadfarmer: what have you done with original Original Pouzar?

    lol

  74. Munny says:

    drglen: Chaisson not showing much yet tonight..

    Other than that Hossa elbow he threw.

  75. Dr. Taboggan says:

    Watching McD and Drai that period was fun. The rest of the team …. zzzzZZZzzzzz

    If someone told me the bottom six would not score another goal this season I would believe it. They produce no real chances. Ever. I miss Stoll and Torres.

  76. Professor Q says:

    OriginalPouzar: I’m honestly curious why you would think this given the market, what he’s accomplished, etc.

    I don’t want my manager to give him that for term, however, precedent shows that’s the market.

    He’s had only one MVP year (although his victory was a bit controversial), with plenty of injury-ridden years and concerns still. He has had other good years, yes. Underrated during that time.

    I love Hall and wish he stayed an Oiler and could become an Oiler again, but if you compare him with Tavares or Panarin do you really get a similar player for the entire season?

    Would NHL managers not look at that and use that to lower the cap hit significantly? This isn’t an overpaying Auston Matthews despite injury concerns just because he’s young and promising and overhyped scenario. This is a 3rd contract scenario, without the Tavares aplomb.

  77. Lowetide says:

    After One:

    No score
    Shots NJD 8-5
    Corsi five-on-five NJD 18-11

    ==

    Haas had the best chance I saw, Nurse needs to shoot the puck, Koskinen solid. Hines running Zajac line against 97, it’s working.

  78. OriginalPouzar says:

    leadfarmer: Who are you and what have you done with original Original Pouzar?

    I have never once complained about Koskinen’s glove hand.

    I have complained about him losing his angles, goals leaking in from weird spots, etc.

    That has not happened this year.

    I’ve been nothing but honest about Mikko and, yes, was hopeful for our duo coming in to the season for reasons I’ve stated.

  79. OriginalPouzar says:

    GMB: ….. obviously this year… you were referencing Louie’s comment about having a slow start.

    He mentioned a slow start but also how consistent a scorer he is.

    I “reminded Louie” that is not 5 years ago and he’s been regressing, year over year, for 4 years – this is not necessarily a slow start – maybe a bit but this is mainly current Wayne Simmonds – one of the biggest buyer beware UFAs from this past off-season.

  80. who says:

    Andy Dufresne: Thank you for doing the math…for showing it is possible…but

    I dont like it.

    Dont like it at all.

    Besides the big 3Leon, Conner and Hall…….that is a very weak forward group imo.

    Would rather see the Hall money spread thorughout the lineup.

    Just one mans opinion.

    We have a very weak forward group right now. Without Hall.
    I don’t think they can afford him, but it’s hard to think of a better upgrade.

  81. jtblack says:

    Saw on IG.

    DRAI & MCD = 55 PTS

    REST of the Fwd’s = 45 PTS

    Its crystal clear tonight that w/o 97 or 29 on the Ice we can’t skate near the HD scoring areas. Never mind shoot from there.

    #WeInTrouble

  82. Munny says:

    You’d think the producer would have told Gino they’ve already used this clip…

  83. Zelepukin says:

    OriginalPouzar: I have never once complained about Koskinen’s glove hand.

    You probably should because its a clear weakness that literally every forward in the NHL knows about. He has a slow glove that he uses more like a reverse blocker with his elbow downwards.

  84. Zelepukin says:

    You are not funny Remenda. You never were.

  85. leadfarmer says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Just giving you crap
    We talked about it last year
    Koskinen Samsonov and Francouz all came over and had big struggles (although Koskinen less than the other guys)
    Clearly these guys coming over need an adjustment year

  86. ArmchairGM says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Louie: just for some info, Simmonds was a very solid power forward but he’s now in a four year regression.

    His 1G is not surprising and, no, he may not go on a hot streak.

    *knock on wood*

    This is why I think NJ would be a great place to unload Neal’s contract in the offseason. Simmonds isn’t what he once was an they won’t re-sign him – and Hall will likely move on as well.

  87. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    OriginalPouzar: I have never once complained about Koskinen’s glove hand.

    I have complained about him losing his angles, goals leaking in from weird spots, etc.

    That has not happened this year.

    I’ve been nothing but honest about Mikko and, yes, was hopeful for our duo coming in to the season for reasons I’ve stated.

    – I could find a ton of them. You (and so many others) were admant that he was not a NHL goalie, that we would not win with him, that if the team played better he would play better was a false narrative. You had no clue….

    – Its hardly a defense to say that you hoped it would work out as a show of objectivity. If you did say this by order of magnitude it was drowned by the incessant Koski is not a NHL goalie, and we cannot win with him.

    – There were multiple posts every game from you about how bad he was. When it was pointed out that this year could be different becausee the D was better, or he could train better, or he would have an off-season of training, experience, etc. You had the blinders on, and you would not even accept the idea that you were wrong, or that tings could be better or different. You could not recognize that he played well when either we had a lot of NHL D or when he wasn’t playing something like 30 of 34 games down the stretch. His good stetches were merely good luck, and the games we lost when when he was in net you largely attributed to his play. There was no convincing you that indeed Koski was/could be a NHL goalie, so resolute were you. You would not concede that there was a link betwwen team play and goalie performance.

    * I generally admire your contirbution to this blog over the years: I could never understand the misplaced vitroil on the team’s play and Koski. His good play receives nothing of the outpouring of negativity when he was goalering on games we lost. This is much better. Your simply outcome based looking

    ** the weak glove top shelf is/was bunk: good shooters prefer to go glove high and score goals from there, always. When the other team doesn’t have the time to tee them up or one time them as much, your goalie is going to look better

  88. drglen says:

    only 97s line, and Haas have jump so far tonight. we’re a bit lucky not to be down 2-0… some misses and some saves by Kosky.

    PK was good.

    Could see a line shuffle soon though, Chaisson not doing enough. May drop Kass back to help line 2, not sure who gets elevated. Maybe Neal, Maybe Russell.

  89. Munny says:

    Jersey is definitely using a trap at the blue line, but they will collapse to the slot when possession is obtained in their own end. I’d like us to sneak a Dman into the top of the circles when that happens, a la Tom Gilbert.

  90. OriginalPouzar says:

    Go Condors – hate when the games overlap!

  91. Lowetide says:

    Leon scored.

  92. jp says:

    Great goal!

    Wonderful pass by Nuge.

  93. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nuge to Drai for the breakaway and the OIlers lead 1-0.

    5 on 5 point for Nuge.

    I think that’s Persson’s first NHL point on the net clear,

  94. Munny says:

    Pretty as fuck.

  95. drglen says:

    LEON LEON LEON LEON SCOres… was that pass from Peersson?

  96. OriginalPouzar says:

    What a pass by Nuge.

  97. drglen says:

    no it was from NUGE!

  98. Munny says:

    You can’t make a better pass than Nuge made there

  99. OriginalPouzar says:

    Wild shot there by Benning – he’s usually pretty good with his point shots.

  100. Munny says:

    That goal should open up the Devils a little

  101. OriginalPouzar says:

    Oilers all over the Devils now.

  102. OriginalPouzar says:

    Gulls score on their first shot of the game…..

  103. Zelepukin says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Wild shot there by Benning – he’s usually pretty good with his point shots.

    Ya that was weirdly bad.

  104. GMB3 says:

    Patrick Russell with a shot from the slot HOOO boy what a day

  105. Munny says:

    Chasing the puck badly

  106. drglen says:

    ah, line 3 being owned here.

  107. Munny says:

    Back to dumb passes. Yay

  108. OriginalPouzar says:

    Kingerredux,

    Again, I never once complained about his glove hand, not once. In fact I’ve posted many times that I think that mantra is highly overblown.

    Of course I complained about his play last year, i don’t deny that – he wasn’t good enough last year. I stand by that right now.

    Feel free to go through the posts from the summer after Smith was signed where I, time over time, posted about how I’m hopeful the goalie tandem could give solid tending, even plus tending for the year, and the reasons why.

  109. Zelepukin says:

    Passing is failing us.

  110. jp says:

    Man Persson really can’t make a play with the puck it seems. So odd for a guy who’s MO is supposed to be offense.

  111. leadfarmer says:

    Could really use a Pageau on that 3rd line right about now

  112. OriginalPouzar says:

    2-0 Gulls.

  113. OriginalPouzar says:

    Colby Cave may be making his way back to the NHL…. sigh.

  114. drglen says:

    nice once timer chaisson there.. but saved.

  115. OriginalPouzar says:

    I hope they add a second assist to Persson – he cleared the puck from the front of the net to Nuge (I think it was Persson).

  116. OriginalPouzar says:

    Mcleod to Cave and the Condors cut the lead in half.

  117. Munny says:

    drglen:
    nice once timer chaisson there.. but saved.

    Smart pass from Nuge but looked like Chiasser was a little handcuffed.

  118. OriginalPouzar says:

    Yamamoto also with an assist on the play.

  119. Zelepukin says:

    C’mon Nurse. Poor decision there.

  120. Lowetide says:

    Nurse is making bad decisions. I think he and Klefbom are going to have to change spots. Less than ideal, but he is fading over the last two weeks or so in terms of decisions.

  121. Munny says:

    Can’t believe Haas wasn’t more seriously hurt.

    Thank gord the refs are calling love tap slashes though

  122. OriginalPouzar says:

    Condors tie it up on the next shift – Hebig from Maksimov and Esposito.

    There is a chance its Maksimov’s first goal – the Condors did collect the puck.

  123. drglen says:

    Munny:
    Can’t believe Haas wasn’t more seriously hurt.

    Thank gord the refs are calling love tap slashes though

    yes, that was a dirty play.

  124. Ozoil says:

    drglen:
    So what’s the plan for today’s game.Whos in whos out. Seems like Granland will play again.I’d like to see Khaira Nuge Gagner.

    Try Neal with Hass and Russel.

    Tipp will probably go with Khaira sheehan archibold to see if preseason effectiveness returns..

    I agree with Tipps admission that Klefbom on PP1, .. he just passes to the sides and they are not worried about him, so it’s easy to defend. That’s why we’ve been spinning our wheels back and forth and the upper perimeter. Maybe he’ll finally give Bear a shot.

    Bear is such a revelation..what concerns me is that another Bake D may also be a revelation and we’re missing out.

    The last paragraph. I can’t agree enough with this.

  125. drglen says:

    They should probably sit Haas rest of game anyways.. to be safe.

  126. Munny says:

    Kassian needs to use that space to get in for a shot. Devs reading the pass to Drai all the way.

  127. Zelepukin says:

    Persson is definitely a step behind in decision-making with the puck and its really starting to show if Klef isn’t on the top of his game.

  128. Munny says:

    Oscar doesn’t win an Oscar for that one.

  129. drglen says:

    Munny:
    Kassian needs to use that space to get in for a shot. Devs reading the pass to Drai all the way.

    exactly.. he’s got a good shot but instead passed it back into double coverage. Oh well, split second decision. But SHOOT..

  130. drglen says:

    oK refs, that is technically a penalty, but how about an equally cheezy even up call..

  131. OriginalPouzar says:

    That’s not the type of penalty you want to take.

    Yikes, Hughes, that was a terrible shot – Nurse-like….

  132. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nuge is having a heck of game.

    Welcome back Ryan!

  133. leadfarmer says:

    Lowetide:
    Nurse is making bad decisions. I think he and Klefbom are going to have to change spots. Less than ideal, but he is fading over the last two weeks or so in terms of decisions.

    But people will look at his EV point production with Drai and Mcdavid and think he’s worth a top pairing contract

  134. OriginalPouzar says:

    Another really good PK – Devils’ PP sucks but Archie and Sheahan make a big difference.

  135. leadfarmer says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Nuge is having a heck of game.

    Welcome back Ryan!

    Unfortunately he needs a better player than him on his line for best effectiveness

  136. OriginalPouzar says:

    The assist has, rightfully, been added to Persson – contract Joel!

  137. Munny says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Nuge is having a heck of game.

    Welcome back Ryan!

    He had an horrific giveaway pass between the Drai assist and the Chiasson setup but other than that no complaints.

    Be nice for the PP to cash here.

  138. leadfarmer says:

    Nucks lose again

  139. jtblack says:

    Who would you rather have?

    DRAI @ $8.5 MIL PER
    or
    SUBBAN @ $9 MIL PER?

    Now what if that was asked 2 years ago?

  140. OriginalPouzar says:

    Malone with a greasy PP goal of a d-man and in.

    Maksimov with his 2nd assist (although I think the first apple gets change to a goal) and Jones with the other.

  141. Munny says:

    Don’t bet against the Haas.

  142. jtblack says:

    Lowetide:
    Nurse is making bad decisions. I think he and Klefbom are going to have to change spots. Less than ideal, but he is fading over the last two weeks or so in terms of decisions.

    NURSE is @ the 300 Game Mark.

    is it safe to say we know what we have ? and don’t have?

  143. Lowetide says:

    leadfarmer: But people will look at his EV point production with Drai and Mcdavid and think he’s worth a top pairing contract

    Suspect he gets $6.75M. Haas may have scored.

  144. Pouzar says:

    Haas > Granlund

  145. OriginalPouzar says:

    What a cycle shift by the 4th line – K. Russell over to Benning for a MUCH better shot and Haas deflects it in.

    Haas had a heck of a shift on the cycle and puck retrieval even before he tipped it in.

  146. jp says:

    Cool, Haas is looking like a player for a little bit now.

  147. Munny says:

    Burning down the Haas!!

  148. drglen says:

    HAas hast gescored!

  149. Munny says:

    Pouzar:
    Haas > Granlund

    All day every day

  150. leadfarmer says:

    Du
    Du Haas
    Du Haas mich

  151. Nix says:

    More like, Gaitan Faast, amirite??l

    Not sure how much he’ll ever score, but I really like his positioning in a classical center sort of way. Hes always looping parallel to the play supporting whatever w or d is within five feet of him and the puck. Hows about a future third line of McLeod-Haas-Yamamoto (Maksimov)

  152. jp says:

    Fun stuff!

    It’s nice to play the bottom feeders (and nice not to be one)

  153. Munny says:

    Lucic scores!!!

  154. OriginalPouzar says:

    2nd line with an even strength goal now. Neal.

    Real nice plays by Persson and Chiasson on the give an go – great work by Persson to move to the middle to get open. Neal, Johnny on the spot.

  155. drglen says:

    NEAL NEAL NEAL NEAL..

  156. Munny says:

    Another point from Persson.

  157. drglen says:

    leadfarmer:
    Du
    Du Haas
    Du Haas mich

    lol

  158. leadfarmer says:

    Where’s that Canuckian troll?

  159. OriginalPouzar says:

    Louie – Quinner – that’s Persson’s second point – he got an assist on the Drai goal.

    Also, I think that should be Chiasson with the 2nd assist, not Nuge.

  160. Gerta Rauss says:

    Well we’re having fun now

  161. Scungilli Slushy says:

    leadfarmer: But people will look at his EV point production with Drai and Mcdavid and think he’s worth a top pairing contract

    Neither Klef or Nurse are great elite players. Too many weak decisions and brain farts IMO. But most aren’t. At the right contract they are keepers.

    Given the leftorium I think we’ll see some changes if anyone can emerge strongly like Bear has.

  162. leadfarmer says:

    Koskinen with a good glove
    Don’t tell anyone

  163. OriginalPouzar says:

    With the Haas goal, Benning is damn well near 80% goal share at 5 on 5.

    He is a wonderful 3rd pairing d-man – and I do think he can bat higher – the main issue is durability when the minutes go up.

  164. jenga66 says:

    Munny:
    Lucic scores!!!

    Nice.

  165. who says:

    ArmchairGM: This is why I think NJ would be a great place to unload Neal’s contract in the offseason. Simmonds isn’t what he once was an they won’t re-sign him – and Hall will likely move on as well.

    Are you just kidding again?

  166. Lowetide says:

    After Two:

    3-0 Edmonton (3-0 in the second)
    Shots 21-19 Edmonton (16-11 Edmonton in the second)
    Corsi five on five 37-30 NJD (19-19 in the second)

    ==

    Strong period, Nuge some great work, Haas too and Persson with a couple of points. Neal scored and had another nice chance, worried about injury for sure. Koskinen solid.

  167. Pouzar says:

    Haas has earned 3rd line center minutes. He is carrying the carcasses of Granlund and Russell ffs.
    Why is coach playing the Sheahan line more 5v5? They are horrible.

  168. Harpers Hair says:

    leadfarmer:
    Where’s that Canuckian troll?

    Me?
    The Canucks were playing their 3rd in 4 nights and on the second of back to backs.
    Pretty much a scheduled loss.
    The Jets forwards are ridiculously good…if they can sort out their D, they are an elite team.

  169. Munny says:

    leadfarmer:
    Where’s that Canuckian troll?

    Watching Tyler Myers highlights.

  170. leadfarmer says:

    Curious what Koskinens approach is and what’s changed
    He has been upright a lot more this year
    I would joke last year that they pushed him out after intermission into the goal crease on his knees which was an exaggeration but he went down very early which he didn’t need to because he’s actually very athletic for a big guy

  171. Pouzar says:

    Gawd I hope Neal is ok.

  172. jp says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Colby Cave may be making his way back to the NHL…. sigh.

    At least he’s keeping some separation between Malone and the Oilers roster. Amirite??

  173. Reja says:

    Harpers Hair: So he’s giving up more than he’s giving in the metric you said smart people value.
    Now try the most important metric of all…P/60 5v5 which normalization for useage and is also an indication of team depth.
    I’ll get your research started:
    1. Pasternak
    2. Marchand
    3. Petterson.

    Hey! Snap out of it we need a percentage update now. We also need a updates if Bo and his girlfriend like their new condo on Davies street.

  174. Munny says:

    Pouzar:
    Haas has earned 3rd line center minutes. He is carrying the carcasses of Granlund and Russell ffs.
    Why is coach playing the Sheahan line more 5v5? They are horrible.

    You and I were banging the Haas drum early, but I have to give credit to the Oil for slow-playing his adjustment period. He’s steadily improved to my eye.

    And after taking that cheap shot tonight into the boards… he’s looked like a Haas on fire.

  175. Pouzar says:

    Haas CF% 69.23
    Sheahan CF% 23.08

    sigh

  176. Pouzar says:

    Munny: You and I were banging the Haas drum early, but I have to give credit to the Oil for slow-playing his adjustment period.He’s steadily improved to my eye.

    And after taking that cheap shot tonight into the boards… he’s looked like a Haas on fire.

    Yes my friend we were.

  177. jp says:

    Professor Q: He’s had only one MVP year (although his victory was a bit controversial), with plenty of injury-ridden years and concerns still. He has had other good years, yes. Underrated during that time.

    I love Hall and wish he stayed an Oiler and could become an Oiler again, but if you compare him with Tavares or Panarin do you really get a similar player for the entire season?

    Would NHL managers not look at that and use that to lower the cap hit significantly? This isn’t an overpaying Auston Matthews despite injury concerns just because he’s young and promising and overhyped scenario. This is a 3rd contract scenario, without the Tavares aplomb.

    In this past 4 seasons Hall has missed significant games once.

    Points per game over that span:
    Panarin 1.01
    Hall 1.01
    Tavares 0.98

    Hall’s PPG is better than the other two over the past 3 seasons.

  178. Scungilli Slushy says:

    leadfarmer:
    Curious what Koskinens approach is and what’s changed
    He has been upright a lot more this year
    I would joke last year that they pushed him out after intermission into the goal crease on his knees which was an exaggeration but he went down very early which he didn’t need to because he’s actually very athletic for a big guy

    Goalies (most) live and die by the structure in front of them. When was the last time one or two opponent forwards were hammering away at the puck and/or or left completely alone net front?

  179. Harpers Hair says:

    Munny: Watching Tyler Myers highlights.

    Edler – Myers is one of the top D pairings in the league by almost any metric.
    Look it up.

  180. who says:

    Joel Persson is not an NHL defenseman.
    They need to send him down for a few months. Maybe he will adjust to the speed of the game, but I doubt it.
    If anyone is taping the game, go back and watch his 1st shift of the game. Going back in his own end for a puck retrieval. That is the definition of skating in sand. I doubt he’s ever going to skate well enough.
    Gaaten Haas, on the other hand, is looking more and more like an NHL center.

  181. leadfarmer says:

    Harpers Hair: Me?
    The Canucks were playing their 3rd in 4 nights and on the second of back to backs.
    Pretty much a scheduled loss.
    The Jets forwards are ridiculously good…if they can sort out their D, they are an elite team.

    So if only 2/5 of each line didn’t suck we’d have a good team

    Also I’m still laughing about you lecturing us about small sample sizes while Canucks top pp unit was getting 5 min pp time on ice per game while their second unit was getting 2 min per game
    For comparisons Barzal was getting 1:30 min per game
    4 min per game is high for teams that lean on one unit
    5 min is like a cheat code

  182. OriginalPouzar says:

    Pouzar:
    Haas CF% 69.23
    Sheahan CF% 23.08

    sigh

    There may be a QoC element here – the coaches are matching the Sheahan line against the Hall line.

  183. who says:

    Harpers Hair: Edler – Myers is one of the top D pairings in the league by almost any metric.
    Look it up.

    People will mock him for the giveaway tonight, but Myers is a quality dman. Always has been.
    He is prone to the odd giveaway, and lapse in coverage, but you could say the same thing about Klefbom.

  184. Dr. Taboggan says:

    Harpers Hair,

    Curious how elite penalty killer Toby Rieder is looking this season?

  185. Pouzar says:

    OriginalPouzar: There may be a QoC element here – the coaches are matching the Sheahan line against the Hall line.

    So the rest of the year?

    OP….they are dreadful 5v5.

  186. Reja says:

    leadfarmer:
    Curious what Koskinens approach is and what’s changed
    He has been upright a lot more this year
    I would joke last year that they pushed him out after intermission into the goal crease on his knees which was an exaggeration but he went down very early which he didn’t need to because he’s actually very athletic for a big guy

    Mike smith is a great mentor add on a 50-50 workload and the big reason “drum roll” he doesn’t have to babysit Jesse.

  187. Munny says:

    Harpers Hair: Edler – Myers is one of the top D pairings in the league by almost any metric.
    Look it up.

    Told ya!!!

  188. OriginalPouzar says:

    ScungilliSlushy: Goalies (most) live and die by the structure in front of them. Whenwas the last time one or two opponent forwards were hammering away at the puck and/or or left completely alone net front?

    I think its more than this – can’t remember if it was Catherine Silverman or another of the elite goalie analysts but there have been structural and technique changes to his game that have made a significant difference. Playing upright was one of them.

  189. OriginalPouzar says:

    Neal is out there – he’s good.

  190. leadfarmer says:

    leadfarmer,

    In case you are wondering OV is the top pp guy the previous 2 seasons at 4:15 pp time
    Otherwise the top unit the previous 2 years is Colo 1 pp unit at 4:05 and 3:45
    So Vancouver is getting an extra pp a game

  191. Munny says:

    who: People will mock him for the giveaway tonight

    Or mock Nurse for a 2 on 1 in OT.

  192. leadfarmer says:

    Harpers Hair: Edler – Myers is one of the top D pairings in the league by almost any metric.
    Look it up.

    Unless they played for the Oil
    Then they would suck, suck!!
    Am I right?

  193. Lowetide says:

    Bear anticipates so well.

  194. Younger Oil says:

    Nuge needs to learn how a line change works, my god.

    Really strange TMMOTI call, but you can’t expect Haas to stay on the bench when you skate to the bench and drape your arm over the boards to enter.

  195. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lowetide:
    Nurse is making bad decisions. I think he and Klefbom are going to have to change spots. Less than ideal, but he is fading over the last two weeks or so in terms of decisions.

    When Larsson is back and paired with Klefbom (presumably), the Bear/Nurse duo will be able to play a few less of the tough minutes – there will be a 1A/1B and that should help Nurse/Bear I would think

  196. Munny says:

    That was a bit of a deep and aggressive forecheck for a PK

  197. OriginalPouzar says:

    PK so much better tonight – is it the Devils’ ineptitude or Archie/Sheahan back as PK1? Combo perhaps.

  198. Oil2Oilers says:

    who,

    Counter point, Persson is a better at playing the Right Side of the defense than any Oilers currently available to replace him. As a plus he has two points tonight and is giving Bouchard a chance to learn Pro hockey in the AHL. I am more than happy to watch him play in the NHL until Larson returns.

  199. OriginalPouzar says:

    Great puck retrieval by McDavid on the PP and great drive to the middle and shot by Nuge. Nice tip by Chiasson.

  200. Munny says:

    Chiasser breaks an egg

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