2019-20 Game 41: Flames at Oilers

The midway point of the NHL season lands tonight for the Edmonton Oilers. The team begins the day in the playoffs and a win tonight, against Pacific Division rivals Calgary Flames, would calm the frayed nerves of Oilers nation.

Edmonton enters the game having gone 3-6-1 (seven points) in the last 10, while the Flames are 6-3-1 (13 points) in their last 10 games. There’s an ebb and flow to each season, Oilers have been in an ebb so long the team is a stranger on the shore. Need this one.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, less than two coffees a month offer here. 

  • New Lowetide: Edmonton Oilers’ goaltending depth chart in need of talent injection
  • New Lowetide: Oilers’ fleet centre prospect Ryan McLeod finding the range with the Bakersfield Condors
  • Jonathan Willis: Leon Draisaitl is struggling badly, even as the Oilers’ depth forwards seem to be coming around
  • Lowetide: Should the Oilers pursue Lias Andersson in trade?
  • Daniel Nugent-BowmanBroken toes, holiday-time hospital visits and memories of home: A week in the life of Oscar Klefbom, the Oilers’ do-everything defenceman
  • Daniel Nugent-BowmanGrasping Mike Smith, Leon Draisaitl and the Oilers’ recent plight by reading between the lines
  • Lowetide: As Oilers’ auditions of fringe forwards nears conclusion, it’s time for Condors’ top prospects to force the issue
  • Lowetide: The key missing element to the Oilers’ brilliant top line
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘We called him ‘The Crane”: Teammates and coaches reveal their best Connor McDavid stories
  • Jonathan Willis: Should the Oilers have outbid the Coyotes for Taylor Hall?
  • Lowetide: Connor McDavid’s frustration and the impact it could have on the Edmonton Oilers
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Oilers need to figure out five-on-five woes quickly, starting with Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl
  • Lowetide: Who should be the next man up from the Bakersfield Condors?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Q&A: 10 subscriber questions for Oilers rookie defenceman Ethan Bear
  • Lowetide: Five loud noises Ken Holland could make to help the Oilers immediately
  • Lowetide: Complete Oilers top 20 prospects list, winter 2019
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ No. 5 prospect, Winter 2019 — Raphael Lavoie
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ No. 4 prospect winter 2019: Tyler Benson
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 3 prospect winter 2019: Ethan Bear
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ No. 2 prospect winter 2019: Philip Broberg
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ No. 1 prospect winter 2019: Evan Bouchard

OILERS AFTER 41 GAMES

  • Oilers in 2015: 17-22-3, 37 points; goal differential -22
  • Oilers in 2016: 21-14-7, 49 points; goal differential +5
  • Oilers in 2017: 18-21-3, 39 points; goal differential -21
  • Oilers in 2018: 19-19-3, 41 points; goal differential -10
  • Oilers in 2019: 20-16-4, 44 points; goal differential -4

The 2019-20 campaign is running second best among Connor McDavid’s Oilers teams, but a loss tonight puts this year’s model five points shy of the playoff club. That’s a gap. The overall goal differential is also a concern, current Oilers closer to last year than the playoff team.

OILERS IN DECEMBER

  • Oilers in December 2015: 6-5-2, 14 points; goal differential -10
  • Oilers in December 2016: 7-2-4, 18 points; goal differential +2
  • Oilers in December 2017: 7-5-1, 15 points; goal differential +3
  • Oilers in December 2018: 6-6-1, 13 points; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in December 2019: 4-7-1, 9 points; goal differential -10

The Oilers in December 2019 is hockey’s “you take the van, I’ll take the dog.” One thing the free agents on this club have to know: If Edmonton doesn’t make the playoffs, there’s a good chance they’ll be in a new town this time next season.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN DECEMBER

  • On the road to: VAN (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: OTT, LAK, BUF, CAR (Expected 2-1-1) (Actual 1-2-1)
  • On the road to: MIN (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • At home to: TOR (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: DAL, STL (Expected 0-2-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • At home to: PIT, MTL (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • On the road to: VAN (Expected 0-0-1) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • At home to: CAL, NYR (Expected 1-1-0)
  • Overall expected result: 6-6-2, 14 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 4-7-1, 9 points in 12 games

I have tonight as a loss, with the win coming against New York next week. If Edmonton wins both, the club would finish just one point shy of my projection for December. What a strange month.

WORLD JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIPS

Matej Blumel: One goal, two shots, 16:02 for Czech; Philip Broberg: Two shots, 17:50, -1, solid play defensively in the third period and OT for Sweden. He played a lot, and RH side, in big situations. Raphael Lavoie: Assist, 12:06, +2, two shots for Canada. I liked his game, he lacks urgency without the puck although I didn’t see any mistakes. Needs to learn to look busy! Olivier Rodrigue: DNP for Canada.

OILERS 2019-20

The glimmer twins are off and gone in scoring, Edmonton has two rookies on blue every night doing everything from surviving to thriving, Koskinen has a solid season going and James Neal has 16 goals. Zack Kassian is having a career year and the team has 44 points entering Game 41. It has been a year of careening but there’s a playoff spot in play for the Oilers. Will Ken Holland add? Where will he add?

PUCK IQ DEFENSIVE NUMBERS

Okay, these are versus elites. TOI is obvious, TOI is percentage of elite time by player compared to overall minutes. Bear leads the way in percentage (36.1), Nurse leads in total time (254) against elites. DFF% is Dangerous Fenwick for and against as a percentage, and Dangerous Fenwick is a weighted shot metric using shot distance location and type of shot to give each shot a “danger” value. It’s Corsi all grown up and smart. DFF%RC is the rel number, I find it valuable to compare players against each other. For instance, it tells us Adam Larsson is on a helluva run, that Nurse, Bear and Klefbom are performing well enough to stay in their current roles. I think DFF percentage is the most valuable new tool we’ve seen in a decade. Puck IQ now has WOWY numbers and I’m sifting through them and will begin writing about these outstanding glimpses when I feel ready.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

We’re back on the radio at 10 this morning, TSN1260. Steve Lansky will talk Christmas food and World Juniors, and Ryan Pike from Flames Nation and The Sporting News will give us the story from the Calgary side. 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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  1. Andy Dufresne says:

    Réal Goudenyéu: This franchise is embarrassing

    But I’ll still watch every game

    Thats Real Goud En Yeu…….. 🙂

  2. OilClog says:

    rickithebear: Unless the shot is open it is not a nice shot!
    Period!

    Closed shot is no better than a block or miss.

    Ethan claimed your cave and pissed on your Fistric poster didn’t he.

  3. Johnny skid says:

    Harpers Hair: So, you’re saying the rebuild starts all over again.

    Seems like an Oiler thing to do.

    Why do you care?

  4. nelson88 says:

    HH. Please expedite whatever it was that got you banned under your previous iterations. Our host has plenty of patience but your Schlick is quite pathetic

  5. Harpers Hair says:

    Johnny skid: Why do you care?

    Why don’t you?

  6. Johnny skid says:

    Harpers Hair: Why don’t you?

    That’s not an answer to the question

  7. Andy Dufresne says:

    Sound man picks up the Official….

    “Dont start any Shit!”

  8. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Another terrible goal on kosk

  9. Material Elvis says:

    So frustrating being an Oilers fan.

  10. Andy Dufresne says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    Doesnt it feel like either we get lucky tonight….or we get stomped ?

    I just dont see a scenario where we simply outplay them and win.

    not lucky

  11. verdad2.0 says:

    Fire Holland tonight

  12. oilersfan says:

    Other than the first 5 minutes the flow of play and shots have been equal

    The goalie is the reason this is 4-1 and not 2-1

    How did the flames find Rittich? He’s been very good for them in this resurgence

  13. Material Elvis says:

    verdad2.0:
    Fire Holland tonight

    Good night everybody

  14. fishman says:

    Goodnight gentlemen. I for one have had enough frustration for one night. Season slipping away just as always….

  15. StixMalone says:

    Something needs to be done to shake up this team……

  16. Dicky94 says:

    I don’t think a small trade is going to help this team. Sure is frustrating to watch this team.

  17. Andy Dufresne says:

    verdad2.0:
    Fire Holland tonight

    HAAHA……Pop Goes the Weasel

    Initiate the Whack a Mole sequence 🙂

  18. Professor Q says:

    oilersfan:
    Other than the first 5 minutes the flow of play and shots have been equal

    The goalie is the reason this is 4-1 and not 2-1

    How did the flames find Rittich? He’s been very good for them in this resurgence

    His story is quite the collection of chronicles, I’d bet.

  19. oilersfan says:

    Also ion the Lindholm goal, Neal had his stick held by the flame defender on the forecheck , thenNuge skated half speed back to check Lindholm on transition

    Honestly I think I would rather have Pageau than Nuge

  20. StixMalone says:

    We can’t play at home, we can’t score empty net goals, we can’t win 2 games in a row. I gues we are good at losing games….

  21. TopShelf says:

    Does anyone know a free stream for the game…I’m at a buddies house and he doesn’t have tv just internet?

  22. tileguy says:

    Can we talk politics now?

  23. Dicky94 says:

    TopShelf,

    Probably best to rent a movie.

  24. JOFA says:

    Material Elvis: Good night everybody

    LOL….that was funny.

  25. rickithebear says:

    WG:

    I know you do not understand what an open shot is.
    Cause you use the worst Open shot dman measure Fenwick which excludes, misses and closed shots.

    But I will try again.
    The only current stat that best captures The affect of block + misses + closed shots is evga/60.
    Sh/60 does not.

    The best evga/60 Dmen 2 seasons (14-15 & 15-16) before the Hall – Larson trade.
    218 dmen 825 min
    Manning 1.50 evga/60
    Larsson 1.64 evga/60

    Xxx – Larsson
    Manning – Benning
    Russell – Jones

    We should have made the Conf final without Hall in 16-17, but for two goalie interference not called.

  26. Jaxon says:

    Going back to March 14, 2017, 5-on-5 Points:

    Rank – Player – Position – Total Points
    1 – John Carlson – D – 90
    2 – Brent Burns – D – 87
    3 – Morgan Rielly – D – 84
    4 – Roman Josi – D – 84
    5 – Erik Karlsson – D – 80
    6 – Mark Giordano – D – 76
    7 – Dougie Hamilton – D – 75
    8 – Darnell Nurse – D – 73 (218 games)
    9 – Tyson Barrie – D – 71
    10 – Ryan Ellis – D – 69
    11 – Victor Hedman – D – 67
    12 – Jared Spurgeon – D – 67
    13 – Keith Yandle – D – 66
    14 – John Klingberg – D – 66
    15 – Alex Pietrangelo – D – 65
    16 – Jake Muzzin – D – 65
    17 – Thomas Chabot – D – 64
    18 – Seth Jones – D – 64
    19 – Kris Letang – D – 63
    20 – Ryan Suter – D – 62
    21 – Dmitry Orlov – D – 62
    22 – Mattias Ekholm – D – 61
    23 – Jaccob Slavin – D – 61
    24 – Zach Werenski – D – 60
    25 – Jake Gardiner – D – 60
    26 – Aaron Ekblad – D – 58
    27 – Ivan Provorov – D – 58
    28 – Mikhail Sergachev – D – 57
    29 – Ryan McDonagh – D – 57
    30 – Damon Severson – D – 56
    31 – Jeff Petry – D – 56
    32 – Shea Weber – D – 56
    33 – Noah Hanifin – D – 56

  27. Andy Dufresne says:

    oilersfan: Honestly I think I would rather have Pageau than Nuge

    shhhhh…..theyre listening……

    #LearningToUseMyInsideVoice

    #ThereISaidIt

  28. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Dicky94:
    I don’t think a small trade is going to help this team. Sure is frustrating to watch this team.

    They are moving the puck like a bunch of 12 year olds

  29. docweb says:

    Bad day to give up sniffing glue

  30. Old Timer says:

    Nurse has magnificent physical tools to play the game of hockey but mentally he is seriously lacking. He is prone to significant defensive errors and has absolutely no clue offensively. He doesn’t get points because he makes good plays, he gets points only because his physical tools allow him to be in the picture.

    He is not a first pairing D Man. He is a 4/5 D Man. Hope Holland realizes this before he pays stupid money for his next contract. I would like to see the Oilers trade him while his stock is relatively high.

  31. JOFA says:

    Ok. I don’t think it’s as bad as it looks. The team only needs 9 more competent forwards, a back-up goalie….possibly a starter, and a couple of offensive dmen. It should be doable by McDavid’s last year of his contract. Start by signing Nurse 7×8, and Kassian 4×4. Get good players. Keep good players?
    #kennyisagrinder

  32. verdad2.0 says:

    Fire Holland tonight!

  33. Andy Dufresne says:

    Goodnight Everybody

    Can we talk Polotics now

    Probably best to rent a movie

    Bad day to give up sniffing glue

    Nice sequence boys!

  34. BONE207 says:

    verdad2.0:
    Fire Holland tonight

    Richard? Is that you?

  35. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    I can’t imagine playing 150 dollars to watch this team much less 500

  36. JOFA says:

    Lucic interview was great! They should follow that up with a Reinhart and Hall highlight package.

  37. rickithebear says:

    4th goal:
    3 fwd press 2 d in OZ.
    Quick transition.
    Nuge tracks back rather slow.
    Tkachuk picks Russell preventing proper block positioning.
    Lindholm makes perfect open shot above pads and below glove dropping down.
    Glove covers shot path when puck is over pad.
    Almost no area to make it thru.

    Anyone who studies goalie movement knows the most unnatural movement for goalie arms are:
    Down & in on glove side.
    Up or up/in on blocker side.

    Anyone blaming Koskinen.
    Your opinion is wrong!

  38. verdad2.0 says:

    I have long advocated gutting this team
    I underscore “gut”
    Get rid of most of them with extreme predjudice

    Nurse RNH, Larsson , etc.

    But fire Holland tonight

    A monumental incompetent

  39. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    TopShelf,

    nhl66.ir
    onhockey.tv
    bilasport.net/nhl.html

  40. Andy Dufresne says:

    Andy Dufresne: Andy Dufresne:
    Doesnt it feel like either we get lucky tonight….or we get stomped ?

    I just dont see a scenario where we simply outplay them and win.

    not lucky

    Stomped

  41. BONE207 says:

    Réal Goudenyéu:
    I can’t imagine playing 150 dollars to watch this team much less 500

    Lots are watching for free & are imagining doing something else. Yikes…this team.

  42. JOFA says:

    Fire Holland tonight! Haha….that felt better. Somewhat therapeutic. I feel your pain Verdad 😉

  43. verdad2.0 says:

    rickithebear,

    You are an idiot
    A real goalie makes that save because they are actually goalies

    OIlers should have traded most of this team away 6 months ago

    But Holland is a total idiot

  44. Buddy says:

    JOFA:
    Ok. I don’t think it’s as bad as it looks. The team only needs 9 more competent forwards,a back-up goalie….possibly a starter, and a couple of offensive dmen. It should be doable by McDavid’s last year of his contract. Start by signing Nurse 7×8, and Kassian 4×4. Get good players. Keep good players?
    #kennyisagrinder

    Okay, I laughed out loud. This does pretty much sum it up.

  45. Professor Q says:

    Great assist for Draisaitl there.

  46. oilersfan says:

    The oilers aren’t being outplayed they are being outworked

    I honestly think the oilers should bench Leon for a game to give him a physical break, a mental break, and to send him a message that he can’t be at half speed . He is -3

    The shot from Klefbom bounced a few inches from Leon and he had zero battle level against Gio

    I am thinking the same about Nuge who is also -3 tonight and full marks for it

  47. Sierra says:

    SHGA, pathetic effort tonight. Are they still exhausted?

  48. verdad2.0 says:

    Where are the llikes of Orignigal Pouzar?
    The mindless apologistls?
    Where is Lowetide ? Another endless apologist for endless incompetence

    If any one believes in Holland they obviously delusional
    This team must be gutted
    Just over the next week 3/4 of them

    The team will improve It cannot be worse
    It is utterly wretched.

  49. Younger Oil says:

    Trolling posters aside, the Holland conversation is honestly a fascinating one.

    On one hand, he could be berated for not making moves to bolster a team that had a hot streak to begin the season, and were in a great statistical position to make the playoffs at the end of November, despite the obvious holes.

    On the other hand, he could be commended for keeping his powder dry and not wasting future assets on a team that very clearly does not have nearly enough depth to win a playoff series (or even compete for a playoff spot) this year.

    Either way, it is making it incredibly difficult to be a fan of this team. A shit team with no indication or evidence that it will be any better next year.

    Same as it ever was.

  50. Sierra says:

    oilersfan:

    I honestly think the oilers should bench Leon for a game to give him a physical break, a mental break, and to send him a message that he can’t be at half speed . He is -3

    How many days did Leon just have off? If that’s not enough then how many are required?

  51. Sierra says:

    verdad2.0,

    Bu’bye

  52. verdad2.0 says:

    Younger Oil,

    Anyone who bleieves in future assets is delusiona
    The present is all that matters

    But Holland is paid regardless, why would he care?
    He doesn]t

    Letting this atrocity unfold only proves everything I have said
    Holland is a perverse incompetent

  53. Harpers Hair says:

    oilersfan:
    The oilers aren’t being outplayed they are being outworked

    I honestly think the oilers should bench Leon for a game to give him a physical break, a mental break, and to send him a message that he can’t be at half speed . He is -3

    The shot from Klefbom bounced a few inches from Leon and he had zero battle level against Gio

    I am thinking the same about Nuge who is -4 tonight and full marks for it

    Outworked = outplayed.

  54. JOFA says:

    Who gets banned first tonight? Hahaha. Ban me LT! Please. I beg you!

  55. Oil2Oilers says:

    verdad2.0,

    Please masterbait elsewhere, we all need the relief

  56. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    What the fuck is wrong with nuge and drai?

    Combined -7 tonight

    Not even close to good enough

  57. Andy Dufresne says:

    Post game presser should be an interesting one.

  58. Pescador says:

    Jaxon:
    Going back to March 14, 2017, 5-on-5 Points:

    Rank–Player–Position–Total Points
    1–John Carlson–D–90
    2–Brent Burns–D–87
    3–Morgan Rielly–D–84
    4–Roman Josi–D–84
    5–Erik Karlsson–D–80
    6–Mark Giordano–D–76
    7–Dougie Hamilton–D–75
    8–Darnell Nurse–D–73 (218 games)
    9–Tyson Barrie–D–71
    10–Ryan Ellis–D–69
    11–Victor Hedman–D–67
    12–Jared Spurgeon–D–67
    13–Keith Yandle–D–66
    14–John Klingberg–D–66
    15–Alex Pietrangelo–D–65
    16–Jake Muzzin–D–65
    17–Thomas Chabot–D–64
    18–Seth Jones–D–64
    19–Kris Letang–D–63
    20–Ryan Suter–D–62
    21–Dmitry Orlov–D–62
    22–Mattias Ekholm–D–61
    23–Jaccob Slavin–D–61
    24–Zach Werenski–D–60
    25–Jake Gardiner–D–60
    26–Aaron Ekblad–D–58
    27–Ivan Provorov–D–58
    28–Mikhail Sergachev–D–57
    29–Ryan McDonagh–D–57
    30–Damon Severson–D–56
    31–Jeff Petry–D–56
    32–Shea Weber–D–56
    33–Noah Hanifin–D–56

    Points are wonderful, I appreciate the chart.
    Next could you do the other thing Dmen are supposed to be good at?
    CFAxGAF% of FenCorsica or something or other whatchamacallit.

  59. oilersfan says:

    Sierra,

    I think they only had 3 days off

    Considering he played an extra 10 games in the first 20 with his excess usage I don’t think it was enouh

    He is now -28!!! In his last 21 games !! -28 !!!

    I think for a short while the oilers would be better without him to get back the guy who was the best player in the league for 20 games and to get rid of the hot mess he currently is I would do it

  60. Younger Oil says:

    verdad2.0:
    Where is Lowetide ? Another endless apologist for endless incompetence

    You can mindlessly blather all you want, free speech and all, but this is crossing a line.

    Lowetide has been a gracious host and has helped cultivate one of the most diverse, accepting, and intelligent sports communities on the internet, and you personally insult him on the very platform he has given you to speak, even after he has allowed you to stay despite offering absolutely nothing of value.

    I have read your crap for the last year and have said nothing, because that is what you do with trolls. Now I will address you for the first and last time, as kindly and succinctly as you deserve: Fuck off, and never come back to this site again.

  61. verdad2.0 says:

    Oil2Oilers,

    Everything i am saying and have said is valid
    This team should have been deconstructed last summer, or in November

    Too many you post can’t acknowledge the truth

  62. Admiral Ackbar says:

    Younger Oil,

    No doubt! LT is an Internet saint! If he is in the wrong, I don’t want it to be right. I loves me some apologies.

  63. Admiral Ackbar says:

    verdad2.0,

    Give yer balls a tug. You’re the biggest joke in these parts.

  64. verdad2.0 says:

    Younger Oil,

    Crude and unfair
    Look at the score
    and telll me who has been right for the 3 years

  65. JOFA says:

    Perfect night:
    HH’s genius trolling
    Verdad’s flipping out
    Ricki’s petroglyphs

    Blog wouldn’t be the same without you guys lolol

  66. SK Oiler Fan says:

    FFS sit Drai for a week. You cant sit in 1 spot for 10 sec after a faceoff . He’s pouting

  67. Richard Roma says:

    Younger Oil: You can mindlessly blather all you want, free speech and all, but this is crossing a line.

    Lowetide has been a gracious host and has helped cultivate one of the most diverse, accepting, and intelligent sports communities on the internet, and you personally insult him on the very platform he has given you to speak, even after he has allowed you to stay despite offering absolutely nothing of value.

    I have read your crap for the last year and have said nothing, because that is what you do with trolls. Now I will address you for the first and last time, as kindly and succinctly as you deserve: Fuck off, and never come back to this site again.

    +1

  68. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    SK Oiler Fan:
    FFS sit Drai for a week. You cant sit in 1 spot for 10 sec after a faceoff. He’s pouting

    Yeah this is unacceptable from a professional

  69. flyfish1168 says:

    verdad2.0:
    Younger Oil,

    Anyone who bleieves in future assets is delusiona
    The present is all that matters

    But Holland is paid regardless, why would he care?
    He doesn]t

    Letting this atrocity unfold only proves everything I have said
    Holland is a perverse incompetent

    I wish you could be our GM

  70. Professor Q says:

    Looks like everyone is just swinging sticks around.

    I have no idea what’s going on.

  71. Richard Roma says:

    Colorado did us no favors tonight.

  72. Admiral Ackbar says:

    JOFA:
    Perfect night:
    HH’s genius trolling
    Verdad’s flipping out
    Ricki’s petroglyphs

    Blog wouldn’t be the same without you guys lolol

    Ha! I was popping some popcorn thinking the same thing! 🍿

  73. Johnny skid says:

    Professor Q:
    Looks like everyone is just swinging sticks around.

    I have no idea what’s going on.

    Shinny.

  74. Richard Roma says:

    Ah fuck, at least there’s still hope for Oilers fans in their thirties.

    For us folks like myself in our 50’s, I can offer you no promises.

  75. texmex says:

    Richard Roma:
    Colorado did us no favors tonight.

    Oilers have lost 11 of the last 15.

    The out of town scoreboard is not the problem.

  76. Todd Macallan says:

    Players only meetings in similar situations are common, off the top of my head I can’t recall a McD led team having one to this point. Curious if we see one after tonight.

    Silver lining = a potentially Verdad free calendar year starting tomorrow

  77. Pescador says:

    verdad2.0:
    rickithebear,

    You are an idiot
    A real goalie makes that save because they are actually goalies

    OIlers should have traded most of this team away 6 months ago

    But Holland is a total idiot

    6 months ago,
    So before Ken Holland was hired?
    Even though I agree with a few of your points,
    You are hands down the dumbest ‘contributor’ on this site

  78. gn68 says:

    As they say in country music
    That about does it don’t it

  79. Harpers Hair says:

    End of the Innocence.

  80. Sierra says:

    texmex: Oilers have lost 11 of the last 15.

    The out of town scoreboard is not the problem.

    Yup

  81. Richard Roma says:

    texmex: Oilers have lost 11 of the last 15.

    The out of town scoreboard is not the problem.

    In the old days, they used to blame players for getting blindsided for “admiring their shot.”

    That sounds about right for Holland. He traded Lucic and has been admiring his shot since then.

  82. jzed says:

    The inevitable free fall is in play now. A close loss would have been tolerable if they were outplaying the Phlegms. Home icitis is killing them. Lease the houses, tell the players you’re saving them mortgage payments. buy a cheap motel and move them in. Make them play their way out of it.

  83. Sierra says:

    Sierra: Nygard-McDavid-Gagner
    Drai-Nuge-Kassian.
    ?

    I believe we saw Drai-Nuge-Kassian. Who was McDavid with?

  84. StixMalone says:

    From top of the heap to a big heap of crap. If Holland does nothing now it is a tell. Tank harder boys it’s a good draft coming up….

  85. JOFA says:

    Harpers Hair:
    End of the Innocence.

    Lololol….all I can do is laugh. You might be right afterall HH.

  86. Professor Q says:

    Todd Macallan:
    Players only meetings in similar situations are common, off the top of my head I can’t recall a McD led team having one to this point. Curious if we see one after tonight.

    Silver lining = a potentially Verdad free calendar year starting tomorrow

    There have been a few led by McDavid. Maybe not this year, that we know of, however.

  87. Harpers Hair says:

    JOFA: Lololol….all I can do is laugh. You might be right afterall HH.

    I always am.

  88. Richard Roma says:

    Harpers Hair:
    End of the Innocence.

    Which bandwagon are you on? I’m looking for an out, here.

  89. JOFA says:

    OP,

    You know you’ll be back. We’re all addicted. Go for a 3 am workout, and we’ll see you in the morning. I appreciate your posts.

  90. Harpers Hair says:

    Richard Roma: Which bandwagon are you on? I’m looking for an out, here.

    Vegas looks primed for a big run.

    I’d go there.

  91. JOFA says:

    Harpers Hair: I always am.

    Lol😉

  92. Sierra says:

    5 wins in the last 16 games. Is this the team we expected at the start of the season?

  93. Professor Q says:

    StixMalone:
    From top of the heap to a big heap of crap. If Holland does nothing now it is a tell. Tank harder boys it’s a good draft coming up….

    To be fair, given a few years, I wouldn’t mind:

    Lafrenière – McDavid – Lavoie

    Benson – Draisaitl – Yamamoto

    Khaira – McLeod – P. Russell

    Any random configuration for the 4th line?

  94. BONE207 says:

    Todd Macallan:

    Silver lining = a potentially Verdad free calendar year starting tomorrow

    Was he talking politics again? He’ll never learn.

    One would hope that a team that lead their division for half a season would have thicker skin & a bit more fight. Seeing yourself on video replays over & over should help you realize that your game is off. How can you let those mistakes creep back in ( more like explode onto the scene)? The only thing I can think of is the leadership has given up. If that is the case, coaching & management need to stop this or this team slides into the ocean.

  95. Harpers Hair says:

    Sierra:
    5 wins in the last 16 games. Is this the team we expected at the start of the season?

    Yes.

  96. JOFA says:

    Sierra:
    5 wins in the last 16 games. Is this the team we expected at the start of the season?

    I expected a 500 team.

  97. Richard Roma says:

    Harpers Hair: Vegas looks primed for a big run.

    I’d go there.

    I’m contemplating the Colorado bandwagon.

  98. Harpers Hair says:

    Richard Roma: I’m contemplating the Colorado bandwagon.

    Not a bad choice.

    Incredible skill.

  99. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Harpers Hair: I always am.

    The end of the innocence and the beginning of the narcissism

  100. SK Oiler Fan says:

    That was brutal. Wtf happened 4weeks ago?
    The give a shit meter isn’t even registering with Nuge and Drai

  101. BONE207 says:

    Sierra: I believe we saw Drai-Nuge-Kassian. Who was McDavid with?

    Well from my angle, everytime I saw CONNOR he was 1 on 4 in the 3rd period. Rest of the team was protecting the lead….oh wait…

  102. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    This team is absolute dog shit. No forward depth, defence is crapping it up, and Now we don’t even have 1 reliable goalie.
    The only thing reliable about this team is that you can rely on it the shit the bed.
    Every. Fucking. Year.

    I wish I had OP’s outlook on life. Cause for the life of me, I can’t fathom watching this team anymore

  103. SK Oiler Fan says:

    I’m convinced tippett knows where the issues lie. Not sure he has authority to do anything about it.

  104. BONE207 says:

    Crazy Pedestrian:
    This team is absolute dog shit. No forward depth, defence is crapping it up, and Now we don’t even have 1 reliable goalie.
    The only thing reliable about this team is that you can rely on it the shit the bed.
    Every. Fucking. Year.

    I wish I had OP’s outlook on life. Cause for the life of me, I can’t fathom watching this team anymore

    Well the LT article tomorrow is something we can look forward to. 😁
    Maybe some sobering words from him will soothe the masses. I trust he has some voodoo or fancy math that will explain this all. Otherwise we have to wait on Old Dutch…

  105. Sierra says:

    SK Oiler Fan:
    I’m convinced tippett knows where the issues lie. Not sure he has authority to do anything about it.

    Such as?

  106. Kraz says:

    Well that was absolutely painful. Drai and McDavid need to get split up. Time to start figuring out which players are gonna help us next year while there are still some meaningful games left…

    Nygard-McD-Kassian
    Benson-Drai-Neal
    Khaira-Nuge-Yamamoto
    Haas-Sheahan-Archibald

  107. Kraz says:

    Every team is now coming with the same gameplay against the oilers. Shutdown the top line/ Make it low event when they are on the ice and don’t take penalties.

  108. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Sierra,

    As a coach you have ways of finding out non hockey related effects on hockey related results. Tippett is no dummy. He’s been around the environment for 30.plus years

  109. Pescador says:

    Kraz:
    Every team is now coming with the same gameplay against the oilers. Shutdown the top line/ Make it low event when they are on the ice and don’t take penalties.

    I don’t necessarily disagree with this premise,
    I’m just not certain it runs this deep, or is as multi layered.
    Defend/attack is pretty much everything that is killing the Oilers today

  110. ArmchairGM says:

    NOW can we talk draft?

  111. BONE207 says:

    ArmchairGM:
    NOW can we talk draft?

    It’s a good time for it as we can watch some of the potential talent play at the WJC. Put some joy back into hockey as well.

  112. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Kraz:
    Every team is now coming with the same gameplay against the oilers. Shutdown the top line/ Make it low event when they are on the ice and don’t take penalties.

    This could be said for sbout 20 of the 30 teams in the league. In any given game the scales are swayed by the response of the top line players plus some level of response from the supporting cast. Usually the supporting cast is inconsistent for the middling teams. When the top line players dont respond/adapt the results are predictable in the long term. Normally solid players with experience ilke Nuge are relied upon for consistent play and leadership in trying times. I’m thinking Oiler management sees this as a gap to fill right now with a 22 year old captain.

  113. unca miltie says:

    Wow. what a mess. Goalie was bad, defence gave up too many 5 bell chances. My only hope comes from Calgary last year, They got blown out by Pittsburgh, got embarrassed and then turned their season around. The team should be embarrassed after this mess. The only good thing that happened tonight is that we timed the train out of downtown perfectly and were out of the city in 20 minutes.

  114. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    Kraz:
    Well that was absolutely painful. Drai and McDavid need to get split up. Time to start figuring out which players are gonna help us next year while there are still some meaningful games left…

    Nygard-McD-Kassian
    Benson-Drai-Neal
    Khaira-Nuge-Yamamoto
    Haas-Sheahan-Archibald

    Exactly. And that is the correct lineup to begin the process.

  115. Pescador says:

    ArmchairGM:
    NOW can we talk draft?

    Can’t wait to see which player the Oilers draft incorrectly this year

  116. Jaxon says:

    Pescador: Points are wonderful, I appreciate the chart.
    Next could you do the other thing Dmen are supposed to be good at?
    CFAxGAF% of FenCorsica or something or other whatchamacallit.

    Against Elites DFF% I think he is about 63rd in the NHL. Against elites relative to his team he is about #36 in the NHL and first mong Oilers D in both categories. So pretty good on both accounts and the best Oiler on both accounts.
    http://www.puckiq.com/woodmoney?season=20192020&tier=Elite&positions=d

  117. Genjutsu says:

    Réal Goudenyéu: The end of the innocence and the beginning of the narcissism

    Beginning?

    I’m not sure that means what you think it does.

  118. Genjutsu says:

    oilersfan:
    Sierra,

    I think they only had 3 days off

    Considering he played an extra 10 games in the first 20 with his excess usage I don’t think it was enouh

    He is now -28!!! In his last 21 games !! -28 !!!

    I think for a short while the oilers would be better without himto get back the guy who was the best player in the league for 20 games and to get rid of the hot mess he currently is I would do it

    Drai watched an A.L. highlight package 22 games ago.

    Just sayin’

  119. Ari says:

    Jaxon,

    Nurse does get a ton of time with McDavid though.
    His rel DFF% drops a ton without 97.

    http://puckiq.com/woodwowy?player=8478402&teammate=8477498

  120. geowal says:

    Sounds like we’re gonna live up to hunters DeathMarchtm moniker this season after all.

  121. hags9k says:

    The thing is, when things unravel in-season for the Edmonton Oilers, there is no turnaround.

    There is never that fix all players only meeting, no rally. Things just typically get worse and worse even when you think they cannot.

    Good morning everyone!

  122. Jethro Tull says:

    Pescador: Can’t wait to see which player the Oilers draft incorrectly this year

    Whoever it is is guaranteed at least five years in the minors before a sniff of the NHL, whether he’s ready or not!

    Welcome to the reign of Ken Tambellini.

  123. drglen says:

    Pescador: Can’t wait to see which player the Oilers draft incorrectly this year

    yep. Time to watch the world juniors and cheer for ex oilers in the KHL. Go Minsk Go!

  124. drglen says:

    I’ve figured it out!

    Ken is working to lower the perceived value of contract year players!

    Cult of Hockey grades about the worst I’ve seen this year. Man oh man what a brutal beat down.
    Somethings up.

    Does Bear need to go down for a while? (I’m afraid so) Is it time for Lagesson to get a look ? (yes) Should Benson at last be called up (yes) because Neal should play limited 4th line and PP minutes only ( yes) Hey let’s at least give our beat up junker a new paint job!

  125. drglen says:

    Sierra:
    5 wins in the last 16 games. Is this the team we expected at the start of the season?

    Goaltending basically.

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