2019-20 Game 48: Predators at Oilers

We’re past the halfway pole and the Edmonton Oilers remain valiantly in the playoff race. I remain at the ready with my heartbreak country songs (“the money ran out and the engine blew”) and Armageddon movie references (“When the Wind Blows”). I’m beginning to think we’re not going to need them.

At the same time, let’s not get ahead of ourselves. The four games before us, all at home before the end of January, offer another challenge. I think Pierre Lebrun’s usage of the word IF yesterday (“I believe Edmonton, if the Oilers stay in the race, have Pageau on their target list“) places the Oilers chances in perspective. That’s about right.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, less than two coffees a month offer here. 

  • New Lowetide: Dave Tippett’s deployment of Oilers defencemen indicates Kris Russell is vulnerable to trade
  • New Jonathan Willis: Oilers Notebook: Jujhar Khaira’s future, Caleb Jones’ adaptation to NHL speed
  • Lowetide:  Oilers prospect pipeline could deliver below-average group in 2020-21
  • Jonathan Willis: Several factors led to Oilers’ Zack Kassian’s inevitable hearing with NHL Player Safety
  • Jonathan Willis: Zack Kassian calls Matthew Tkachuk a ‘p****,’ says he’d go after him again despite Oilers’ loss
  • Lowetide: Projecting William Lagesson’s future with the Edmonton Oilers
  • Jonathan Willis: Kailer Yamamoto has impressed the Oilers and especially star linemate Leon Draisaitl
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: 10 bold predictions for the Edmonton Oilers in 2020
  • Jonathan Willis: Mike Smith stars in Oilers victory, but others’ struggles could prompt changes
  • Jonathan Willis: Inside a coach’s impact: How Dave Tippett gets the most out of the Oilers’ players
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Deciding what to do with Darnell Nurse, Mike Smith, Tyler Benson and Evan Bouchard
  • LowetideKen Holland’s targets for his first trade deadline with the Oilers.
  • Minnia Feng: Zamboni Ursula: What if Oilers fans could change something in the team’s past?
  • Lowetide: Ken Holland’s trade deadline options for the Oilers
  • Jonathan Willis: ‘That’s the nicest goal I’ve ever seen’: Connor McDavid’s teammates amazed by his latest effort
  • Jonathan Willis: Oilers notebook: James Neal’s resurgence, Matt Benning’s injury and the Tyler Benson recall temptation
  • Lowetide: Oilers farmhands are pushing hard for NHL jobs
  • Jonathan Willis: Zack Kassian’s breakout performance presents Oilers GM Ken Holland with a familiar dilemma
  • Lowetide: Ken Holland, the Oilers amateur procurement department and the 2020 draft
  • Lowetide: Complete Oilers top 20 prospects list, winter 2019

OILERS AFTER 48

  • Oilers in 2015-16: 19-24-5, 43 points; goal differential -23
  • Oilers in 2016-17: 25-15-8, 58 points; goal differential +7
  • Oilers in 2017-18: 21-24-3, 45 points; goal differential -29
  • Oilers in 2018-19: 23-22-3, 49 points; goal differential -10
  • Oilers in 2019-20: 24-18-5, 53 points; goal differential -3

Edmonton is now losing touch with the 2016-17 team, but we expected that to happen sooner. A win tonight would have the Oilers on a 94-point trajectory and that’s the playoffs.

ON THE TENS

  • First 10 games: 7-2-1
  • Second 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Third 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Fourth 10 games: 3-6-1
  • Current 10 games: 4-2-1. 

OILERS IN JANUARY

  • Oilers in January 2016: 2-2-2, six points; goal differential -2
  • Oilers in January 2017: 3-3-0, six points; goal differential -2
  • Oilers in January 2018: 2-4-0, four points; goal differential -11
  • Oilers in January 2019: 3-3-0, six points; goal differential -5
  • Oilers in January 2020: 3-1-1, seven points; goal differential +3

This remains the best January of the McDavid era, no matter what happens tonight. A fabulous road trip, one we’ll remember for many reasons, has us here. Edmonton needs the homestand to shine just as bright.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN JANUARY

  • On the road to: BUF, BOS, TOR, MTL, CAL (Expected 2-2-1) (Actual 3-1-1)
  • At home to: NAS, ARI, CAL, STL (Expected 1-2-1)
  • Overall expected result: 3-4-2, eight points in nine games
  • Current results: 3-1-1seven points in five games

Before the month began, I predicted just three points from the home stand. That’s kind of tragic, but the Oilers weren’t playing too well and there are good teams on the schedule before the end of the month.

OILERS FIVE PER 60 SCORING

The Oilers have a problem tonight, but it’s also an opportunity. I expect the team will keep the No. 2 line together, as that trio is gaining some real traction. McDavid-Neal also likely stays together, and one imagines Dave Tippett will ponder Archibald, Chiasson, Gagner and Nygard as possible options on McDavid’s other wing. I picked Nygard because of the speed, but also because of the success of the duo (in 52:37 five on five, it’s 6-2 goals, 51.9 Corsi).

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, a busy day ahead and we get things started, TSN1260. Jonathan Willis from The Athletic will join us and talk about the recent road trip and the home stand to come. Andrew Peard will talk Oil Kings and trade deadline results and your comments are welcome. 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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  1. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    WC standings using points percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Central
    STL 20
    DAL 11
    COL 10

    Pacific
    VAN 8
    ARI 7
    CGY 7

    Wildcard
    WPG 6
    EDM 6

    Out of playoffs
    VGP 6
    NSH 5
    MIN 1
    CHI 0
    SJS -1
    LAK -7
    ANA -7

    ARI has 18 regulation wins to CGY’s 17 and wins the tie break.
    EDM has one less game played than VGP to have a slightly better points percentage.

    ANA has taken over last spot in the WC. I wonder if Godot10 thinks its coaching?

    Relevant games tonight:

    NSH (-120) at EDM (+100) – If NSH wins they swap places with EDM. NSH has had problems on the PK but are good 5v5.
    EDM has problems 5v5 (improved lately) but have been good on special teams. Coin flip but I think I like EDM a smidge.

    VGP (-165) at BUF (+145) – BUF smacked around DET Sunday while The Golden Pysankas got shut out in CBJ Saturday. I like VGP but not at this price.

    VAN (+115) at WPG (-135) – I like VAN and their ability to score here. Fading Hellebuyck like its my job but he keeps on ticking…..

    SJS (+120) at ARI (-140) – Raanta isn’t 100%. SJS seems to be getting their shit together. Maybe a unit on SJS.

  2. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    EC standings using points percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Metropolitan
    WSH 20
    PIT 16
    NYI 14

    Atlantic
    BOS 19
    TBY 13
    FLA 8

    Wildcard
    CAR 10
    TOR 8

    Out of playoffs
    PHI 8
    CBJ 6
    NYR 3
    BUF 1
    MTL 0
    NJD -4
    OTT -6
    DET -19

    FLA has a slightly better points percentage than TOR due to one less game played.
    TOR has 19 regulation wins compared to PHI’s 16.

    Relevant wildcard games tonight:

    BOS (-145) at CBJ (+125) – BOS lost last night in PHI with Marchand’s all time whiff in the Shoot Out. Its probably a coin flip so I like CBJ for a unit or two.

    NJD (+215) at TOR (-260) – After TOR got lit the F up by FLA I don’t expect them to lose here. No value in the line though.

  3. flyfish1168 says:

    Nygard would be a good add to Connors line. You can’t have two slow pokes with Connor and have constant success.

    Let’s hope Holland can make a deal that helps now and have some term on this player. I’m hoping for Athanasiou. He is big strong and fast

  4. Andy Dufresne says:

    According to Elliot Friedman, New York Rangers to Listen on Georgiev

    Friedman noted that the New York Rangers are ready to listen to offers on their goaltender Alexander Georgiev. The Rangers don’t need goalies and they have a lot of good defensive prospects coming so the Rangers have made it known what they want.

    Apparently, they’ve told teams Georgiev won’t be cheap and they want a good young forward prospect or player almost ready to play now. And, if a team that has interest doesn’t step up with something impressive, the Rangers won’t even listen.

    ” a good young forward prospect or player almost ready to play now”….man….does that fit the description of Jessie Puljujarvi to a T….or what.

  5. Andy Dufresne says:

    In the Kassian (fight) Tkachuk (turtle)….why was Calgary not given a penalty for third man in???

    Is that no longer a rule?

  6. Todd Macallan says:

    Andy Dufresne,

    As an aside to that whole thing, loved Drais response so much when asked what he’d do if on a line with Tkachuk at the ASG: “I’d get off the ice.”

  7. John Chambers says:

    Andy Dufresne,

    I don’t believe you should pay for a marginal goalie.

    Decent goalies are available for free, and even halfway good ones like Talbot only cost a sixpence.

    No reason to push Mike Smith off the roster either.

  8. Dustylegnd says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    According to Elliot Friedman, New York Rangers to Listen on Georgiev

    ” a good young forward prospect or player almost ready to play now”….man….does that fit the description of Jessie Puljujarvi to a T….or what.

    Puljujarvi is a player and he is young….I am from Missouri with regard to the good part…average shot that takes forever to get away, big swooping skating lines that constantly leave him in the wrong place, because he is constantly in the wrong place he is hard to play with…32 points in 35 games…not in the top 10 of scoring of a league less difficult to [play in than the AHL

    The Rangers will get a player with less questions and more certainty

  9. Justthestatsman says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    In the Kassian (fight) Tkachuk (turtle)….why was Calgary not given a penalty for third man in???

    Is that no longer a rule?

    Good question. Another good reason to be mad! I remember in the olden days Rod Phillips losing his mind over a 3rd man in call on the Oilers. It turned out in those days the wording was something like “third man in an altercation”, so it didn’t need to involve fighting majors or even two players being penalized. Not sure how it works today.

  10. Darth Tu says:

    I get the worry over Smith and his streaky nature, but I don’t think going for Georgiev is in Edmonton’s best interests. If we’re burning assets it better be for either a certain top 6 winger, or a 3rd line centre with the ability to play 2nd line in the event of an injury to one of the big 3 Cs.

    These games around the All Star break are key to the season, if we post a winning record or at least go .500 in the next 4 we’re solidly in the playoff race and in my eyes a certain buyer. If we go 1-3 or heaven forbid lose all 4, we’re in trouble.

  11. cowboy bill says:

    It’s got to be time to call up Benson . He is the natural LW to play with Haas & Chiasson . NOT Gagner !

    Please give Benson a go for a game or two while Kassian is suspended . Bury Gags .

  12. dustrock says:

    There an advantage to waiting until the trade deadline to trade for Pageau? Is the acquisition cost higher now?

    Doesn’t this give the team more of a chance to develop chemistry with him?

  13. dustrock says:

    Oilers need to ditch the orange home jerseys.

    I’m convinced nothing will rhyme until they do so.

  14. Dustylegnd says:

    dustrock:
    Oilers need to ditch the orange home jerseys.

    I’m convinced nothing will rhyme until they do so.

    They are awful and say WHA

  15. hunter1909 says:

    Meaningful hockey in January?

    Start of season – everyones shocked then started arguing

    Mid Season – the team hits a tailspin and at first everyone is back where they expected to be

    January – fresh off a semi-brutal road loss the team has the opportunity to move forward…

  16. hickey99 says:

    I’d love to see the 29th be the official “Turtle Night”. If I was going to the game, my kids have a couple turtle toys around that they wouldn’t mind parting with for a good cause. We don’t need any delay of the game penalties from the crowd but maybe a couple during warmups might be nice.

    Just spitballing here!!!!!!

    • Andy Dufresne says:

      Fantastic idea. You will get on TV … thats for sure 🙂

      Everytime the Turlte touches the puck…the crowd should chant TUUUUR–TTLE

      Maybe throw a plastic turtle or two on the ice… 🙂

      Lets get this BoA cranked up baby!

      Should Tkachuk happen to score…..LET IT RAIN TURTLES !

      Someone with entrepenerial spirit could make a killing selling plastic turtles outside the building to fans on thier way in.

      • ashley says:

        I know you are just having fun with this, but in case anyone is seriously considering: Throwing anything on the ice other than a hat for a hat trick results in ejection. Those tickets are expensive and we need all the voices in attendance in a game against the Flames.

        • Andy Dufresne says:

          Agreed……OK…then just one fairly large Turtle Balloon filled with helium that we bat around in the crowd like a Pinata. 🙂

          What makes hockey more fun than a Pinata?

          #MorePuppies
          #Pinata

  17. Andy Dufresne says:

    Is Los Angles our dance partner?

    Rob Blake and Ken Holland apparently have relationship that is decades old.

    If the trade were to involve Tyler Toffoli (27)and Trevor Lewis (33) to the Oilers (both UFA in 2020) and the Kings were to take back Sam Gagner to help lessen the Cap Gap…..What prospect would have to be included going to the Kings??

    While this deal miay not be optimal (ala Jean Gabriel Pageau). there may not be many options to upgrade for a playoff run. (with many buyers in the market)

    Obviously there will be more options in the summer….with better deals available via Free Agency and Trade…..but that doesnt help us now.

    If the B’s are off limits (Bouchard, Broberg, Benson) that leaves Samorukov, Jones and Ryan McLeod as the most likely trade chips.

    I understand why nobody likes this deal on paper because we’d all like something better…so of course you aim as high as possible….but this shit is messy in todays NHL (cap world). IF we want a deal at or before the deadline, its likely to look something like this….something less than perfect/ideal..

  18. jtblack says:

    “Pacific
    VAN 8
    ARI 7
    CGY 7

    Wildcard
    WPG 6
    EDM 6

    Out of playoffs
    VGP 6
    NSH 5”

    5 playoff spots up for grabs … 7 teams .. Oilers odds keep increasing the longer they stay in this fight ..
    It’s January 14th and Edm is right in it, for that I am Grateful !!!!!!!!!!!!

  19. Silver Streak says:

    Hopefully the Preds went for an early morning walkabout and froze some extremities ! Dipped to -40 here in Red Deer….lovely brisk morning with lotsa ice-fog…..take that you pine beatles. I hope the boys are planning to start on time tonight.

  20. godot10 says:

    dustrock:
    Oilers need to ditch the orange home jerseys.

    I’m convinced nothing will rhyme until they do so.

    Fluoresecent orange jerseys was the dumbest decision ever.

    The heightened visibility is a distraction to the Oiler’s goaltenders. They lose all the opposing forwards in white. And the reverse is true for the visiting goaltender. The Oiler forwards are alway super visible.

    Even the bright navy of the 3rd jersey, rather than the flat navy of the old copper’n’blue.

    Jersey colours should be flat, not bright.

  21. ashley says:

    Check out the comment section from Calgarirans in the Herald after an article about a fan who is trying to raise money to put up taunting billboards in Edmonton:

    https://calgaryherald.com/sports/hockey/nhl/calgary-flames/driving-em-crazy-flames-fan-launches-gofundme-to-get-more-tkachuk-in-edmonton-kassian-gets-two-games/wcm/b3f6e3bf-e5df-4283-baae-59fffd3cf2cb

  22. ashley says:

    Knowing Edmonton fans, I think Kassian is going to get a standing ovation his first game back. He has lots of support throughout the league. Saturday night’s theatrics might have been his best career move ever.

  23. godot10 says:

    The biggest week of the season with games against teams the Oilers are directly competing against and the oaf who wants a new 4 x $4 million dollar contract costs the team one game and makes himself unavailable for the other two because of selfishness and pricde, and putting himself before team.

    Jeopardy Answer:

    What is the definition of unreliability?

  24. godot10 says:

    ashley:
    Knowing Edmonton fans, I think Kassian is going to get a standing ovation his first game back.He has lots of support throughout the league.Saturday night’s theatrics might have been his best career move ever.

    Edmonton fans know a thing or two about losing.

  25. Wilde says:

    On Twitter this morning, I shared some of the Condors’ recent(ish) line/pairing combinations’ shot and goal shares, I’ll transcribe them here too, with some other details as well for those who’ve already read the tweets:

    I’ve expressed doubts about pairing Esposito with any of the rookies, given his drag tendencies; but the Esposito-Cave-Maksimov line has proven me wrong so far:

    135CF-73CA
    (+62) / / 64.90%

    8GF-4GA
    (+4) / / 66.67%

    5.93% CF-TO-GF (TEAM 3.78%)

    Very encouraging. Cave is a strong AHLer (pretty much all tweeners are) but, this is /not/ a typical Esposito output.

    Esposito-Peluso, for example, as a checking duo-

    67CF-88CA
    (-21) / / 43.23%

    3GF-7GA
    (-4) / / 30.00%

    4.48% CF-TO-GF (TEAM 3.78%)

    Maksimov’s uptrend is something I’ve spoken about, it’ll be interesting to see if the line stays together when Marody or Jurco come back. I’d be interested in seeing if you can’t run Maksimov as a 1/2W with a Jurco-supercharged version – the line with him and Marody and Yamamoto before his injury was the most stylish of any Condors combination this year so far.

    Benson-Marody-Currie, as I’ve mentioned, was reunited recently: the line was put together ~20% of the way through the season last year, was together during the historic winning streak, then broken up when Currie went up to the NHL, and put back together for the playoffs.

    —————————-

    2018-19 version:

    334CF-241CA
    (+91) / / 57.94%

    18GF-4GA (lmfao)
    (+14) / / 81.82%

    5.39% CF-TO-GF (TEAM 3.87%)

    —————————-

    2019-20 version:

    196CF-138CA
    (+58) / / 58.68%

    12GF-7GA
    (+5) / / 63.16%

    6.12% CF-TO-GF (TEAM 3.78%)

    —————————-

    One little detail I’d like to note is that these CF-to-GF ratios aren’t very high – as is my well-worn criticism of Woodcroft, this is a ‘shot volume’ team. The entire NHL’s raw % for the last few years is 4.49%, 4.34%, 4.16%, 4.10% (from this year backwards, respectively; interesting trend) and I’m sure there’s plenty of skill lines running higher than that 6.12% in similar sample sizes.

    Samorukov-Day has a mind-blowingly low CA:GA ratio considering how much risk is taken / / the rookie mistakes that Samorukov makes in the back-three-quarters of the ice; looking forward to its return for a better sample size. Samo-Kulevich played earlier during team-wide low-PDO.

    Samorukov-Kulevich:

    92CF-67CA
    (+25) / / 57.86%

    4GF-5GA
    (-1) / / 44.44%

    7.46% CA-TO-GA (TEAM 5.30%)

    Samorukov-Day:

    158CF-146CA
    (+12) / / 51.97%

    8GF-6GA
    (+2) / / 57.14%

    4.11% CA-TO-GA (TEAM 5.30%)

    It is a sheltered third pairing, but still. Both of these guys jump on /everything/. Everything. The CF-TO-GF is 5.06%.

    Day without Samo (some play at forward in here) has a CF-TO-GF of 2.80%.

  26. meanashell11 says:

    godot10,

    Again, just stop. We do not need to make this a repeat of yesterdays bull shit.

  27. godot10 says:

    meanashell11:
    godot10,

    Again, just stop. We do not need to make this a repeat of yesterdays bull shit.

    https://youtu.be/9FnO3igOkOk?t=37

  28. Nit64 says:

    godot10: Fluoresecent orange jerseys was the dumbest decision ever.

    The heightened visibility is a distraction to the Oiler’s goaltenders.They lose all the opposing forwards in white.And the reverse is true for the visiting goaltender.The Oiler forwards are alway super visible.

    Even the bright navy of the 3rd jersey, rather than the flat navy of the old copper’n’blue.

    Jersey colours should be flat, not bright.

    ~ Dress like orange pylons. Play like orange pylons ~

  29. dustrock says:

    godot10: Fluoresecent orange jerseys was the dumbest decision ever.

    The heightened visibility is a distraction to the Oiler’s goaltenders.They lose all the opposing forwards in white.And the reverse is true for the visiting goaltender.The Oiler forwards are alway super visible.

    Even the bright navy of the 3rd jersey, rather than the flat navy of the old copper’n’blue.

    Jersey colours should be flat, not bright.

    Agreed. The jerseys are literally hunter orange.

    I still stand by the home/away penalty kill debacle was partially from the jersey colours.

  30. OriginalPouzar says:

    This is an important game tonight to put some additional separation between Edmonton and Nashville – key given their games in hand on the Oilers.

    Mike Smith needs to be solid as I anticipate Rinne/Sarros will be just that if not more.

    Practice yesterday had Gagner as the odd-man out (as he was taking shifts in Nuge’s spot) but, with Kassian out, I’m not sure that both Gagner and Kassian are out and replaced with Khaira and P. Russell.

    I assume Khaira is in, as he should be – is P. Russell or Gagner the other forward?

    Archie took some rushes with McDavid yesterday so I anticipate we see him starting there – hopefully we don’t see the likes of Chiasson or Gagner up there and Archie and McDavid are effective together.

  31. dustrock says:

    Nit64: ~ Dress like orange pylons. Play like orange pylons ~

    Dress for the job you want, not the job you have.

  32. OriginalPouzar says:

    As per Tom Gazolla:

    Ryan Nugent-Hopkins on the ice for Oilers optional morning skate. “Starter’s net” is empty with Mikko Koskinen at the other end of the rink. Looks Mike Smith gets the nod in goal.

  33. flyfish1168 says:

    godot10,

    Wow you have become very negative to the Oilers lately.

    Russell is still a better player than you

  34. PennersPancakes says:

    dustrock: Agreed.The jerseys are literally hunter orange.

    I still stand by the home/away penalty kill debacle was partially from the jersey colours.

    I was partially buying into this theory before. What are the PK splits this year though?

  35. flyfish1168 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    This is an important game tonight to put some additional separation between Edmonton and Nashville – key given their games in hand on the Oilers.

    Mike Smith needs to be solid as I anticipate Rinne/Sarros will be just that if not more.

    Practice yesterday had Gagner as the odd-man out (as he was taking shifts in Nuge’s spot) but, with Kassian out, I’m not sure that both Gagner and Kassian are out and replaced with Khaira and P. Russell.

    I assume Khaira is in, as he should be – is P. Russell or Gagner the other forward?

    Archie took some rushes with McDavid yesterday so I anticipate we see him starting there – hopefully we don’t see the likes of Chiasson or Gagner up there and Archie and McDavid are effective together.

    I would like to see Nygard and Archie with Connor. Bring on the speed and forechecking. Would cause chaos maybe both ends of the ice

  36. hickey99 says:

    ashley,

    Maybe just the chant then, I’m not for throwing money away….that said, they couldn’t throw everyone out….

  37. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Wilde,

    Thanks for these invaluable updates.

  38. Durag says:

    Woodguy v2.0:

    ANA has taken over last spot in the WC.I wonder if Godot10 thinks its coaching?

    4 of their 17 wins have come via the shootout. Eakins is quite possibly the greatest interviewee in the world.

  39. Bill Clinternet says:

    godot10:
    The biggest week of the season with games against teams the Oilers are directly competing against and the oaf who wants anew 4 x $4 million dollar contract costs the team one game and makes himself unavailable for the other two because of selfishness and pricde, and putting himself before team.

    Jeopardy Answer:

    What is the definition of unreliability?

    Bang on. 1st place was on the line and Kassian put himself over the team.

    To those who support Kassian and defend his actions on Saturday:

    What is the point of having this player type, if you cannot trust him in a physical game?

    Paying Kassian 4 x 4 would be more of a setback then paying Russell in 2017 spring

  40. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    dustrock: Agreed.The jerseys are literally hunter orange.

    I still stand by the home/away penalty kill debacle was partially from the jersey colours.

    I thought this too so I looked at the Home/Road PK splits since they adopted the orange jersey in 16/17

    EDM PK% (as per NHL.com)
    Season – Home – Road
    16/17 – 82.3% – 79.3% – Better at Home
    17/18 – 65.8% – 86.7% – Significantly better on Road
    18/19 – 75.2% – 74.5% – About the same
    19/20 – 74.5% – 88.5% – Significantly better on Road

    Totals 74.2% – 81.5% – better on road

    All of the difference is in two season.

    The effect doesn’t seem to be persistent enough to call it real imo.

  41. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    @EdmontonJack
    P. Russell returns to lineup tonight as Zack Kassian serves 1st of 2-game suspension. Khaira remains out; Smith starts vs Nashville.

  42. Litke 94 says:

    Tonight kicks off the start of 2020 at Rogers Place and if this team has any hope in hell of making the postseason, they need to improve at home.

    I have no idea why this team has been so much better on the road compared to home so far this season. Some folks have said the players feel they have to “put on a show” at home, others have said they get distracted. For all I know, it could be sheer coincidence with a bad PK on home ice thrown in.

    Regardless, March is almost all home games, and if this team can get their shit together on home ice, the playoffs should be in range.

  43. godot10 says:

    Woodguy v2.0: I thought this too so I looked at the Home/Road PK splits since they adopted the orange jersey in 16/17

    EDM PK% (as per NHL.com)
    Season – Home – Road
    16/17 – 82.3% – 79.3% – Better at Home
    17/18 – 65.8% – 86.7% – Significantly better on Road
    18/19 – 75.2% – 74.5% – About the same
    19/20 – 74.5% – 88.5% – Significantly better on Road

    Totals 74.2% – 81.5% – better on road

    All of the difference is in two season.

    The effect doesn’t seem to be persistent enough to call it real imo.

    16/17 was a flat orange, not a fluorescent orange.

    Alll the fluorescent orange years, the PK has been at horrid levels at home.

    2017-18 on the road can be explained that the bad goaltending overwhelmed the colour, and the PK was bad everywhere.

  44. flyfish1168 says:

    godot10,

    You are constantly putting down players. that is negative. Today is another day. Move on

  45. Darth Tu says:

    I’m going to put this out there. I like the orange jerseys.

  46. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Neal-McDavid-Archibald
    RNH-Drai-Yamo
    Nygard-Sheahan-P.Russell
    Gagner-Haas-Chiason

    Klef-Larsson
    Nurse-Bear
    Russell-Jones

    Smith

    As per TSN1260

  47. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    godot10: 16/17 was a flat orange, not a fluorescent orange.

    Alll the fluorescent orange years, the PK has been at horrid levels at home.

    2017-18 on the road can be explained that the bad goaltending overwhelmed the colour, and the PK was bad everywhere.

    Fair

  48. godot10 says:

    flyfish1168:
    godot10,

    You are constantly putting down players. that is negative. Today is another day. Move on

    This is not true. I have vigourously defended/supported Jeff Petry, Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Leon Draisaitl, Darnell Nurse, Shawn Horcoff, Anton Lander, Ralph Krueger, Todd Nelson .

    I was #TeamDubois and the loudest voice in opposition to drafting the honourless player who now plays in Calgary.

    I don’t follow the herd.

  49. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Harpers Hair:
    A new 3 on 3 hockey league launching and they already have TV deals locked up.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cbs-sports-nabs-us-tv-rights-3-3-pro-hockey-league-1269065?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

    “No penalties, only penalty shots. No long intermissions or stoppage in play for video reviews. Just pure excitement,” Patrick, who is also commissioner of 3ICE, said in a statement on Monday.

    Cool.

  50. Dicky94 says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    So is Khaira hurt then? Not looking good for him if he isn’t.

  51. JimmyV1965 says:

    Bill Clinternet: Bang on. 1st place was on the line and Kassian put himself over the team.

    To those who support Kassian and defend his actions on Saturday:

    What is the point of having this player type, if you cannot trust him in a physical game?

    Paying Kassian 4 x 4 would be more of a setback then paying Russell in 2017 spring

    Holy crap. I also watched dozens of mistakes by both teams that game (it really was sloppy) and we haven’t discussed those endlessly for three days. Guys make mistakes. It’s fast and emotional. To call it selfish though is beyond unfair. It was a mistake. Thank god his teammates don’t act like this.

    • Andy Dufresne says:

      ” Thank god his teammates don’t act like this.”

      His teamates support him 100%

      Thats the difference between the people who play the game and paper tigers.

  52. OriginalPouzar says:

    LT thinks it’s a huge tell. I’m very surprised and tend to agree that the org may be done with Khaira.

    At least we get P. Russell on the PK but he’s just not as good as Khaira is on the PK – he’s got elite PK numbers including over time.

    Archie on the top line was pretty much telegraphed at practice yesterday.

    They have had GF% successful in a small sample. Better than Chiasson or Gagner – I’m not a guy that thinks Connor needs a speedster but two poor skaters with him would be a bit much.

  53. boneshj says:

    PennersPancakes: I was partially buying into this theory before. What are the PK splits this year though?

    Same.

    29th in the league at home at 74.5%.
    1st in the league on the road at 88.5% (2% better than the next best road team).

    • Darth Tu says:

      Are there any other teams that are so wildly off between home and away? I know San Jose are steady all the time. And I *think* that Nashville are rotten at one, and better at the other as well.

      I’m not sure it’s a jersey colour issue though…..

  54. Dicky94 says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    I don’t mind Archie up there. He wins puck battles so that should benefit McDavid. All Neal has to do is find some space and be ready to let er rip.

  55. Harpers Hair says:

    Woodguy v2.0: “No penalties, only penalty shots. No long intermissions or stoppage in play for video reviews. Just pure excitement,” Patrick, who is also commissioner of 3ICE, said in a statement on Monday.

    Cool.

    Depending on salary structure, this could be a viable alternative to playing in Europe for tweeners

    • Darth Tu says:

      Yeah – could also be a chance for players being at the end of their ELCs, or older players hitting UFA to showcase their talents before leaving for Europe. If it’s a summertime league I mean.

  56. Andy Dufresne says:

    godot10: This is not true.I have vigourously defended/supported Jeff Petry, Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Leon Draisaitl, Darnell Nurse, Shawn Horcoff, Anton Lander, Ralph Krueger, Todd Nelson .

    I was #TeamDubois and the loudest voice in opposition to drafting the honourless player who now plays in Calgary.

    I don’t follow the herd.

    Toot Toot!!

  57. Andy Dufresne says:

    Harpers Hair: Depending on salary structure, this could be a viable alternative to playing in Europe for tweeners

    Or to raise the profile of Womens hockey as well; If they chose to go that route.

  58. Jethro Tull says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    Broncos. Orioles. Oilers

    and perhaps the most famous orange jersey….. Blackpool FC!

    Non-pretentious, meant to be humorous FIFY!

  59. Darth Tu says:

    Jethro Tull: Non-pretentious, meant to be humorous FIFY!

    Blackpool are definitely preferable to the Netherlands in my book. Bring on the crap joke shops and the social clubs.

  60. OriginalPouzar says:

    Deharnais recalled by the Condors from Wichita – this can’t be good news for Samorukov and his face – he’s been out for a bit after taking a puck. Bruised up but it didn’t sound too serious – I know he was seeing doctors last week.

    Wells re-assigned to Wichita – Starrett backed Skinner up a few games and then got the start on Saturday and played well in the win. Skinner has been VERY good recently – will be interesting to see how they deploy and who gets the start tonight!

  61. boneshj says:

    Darth Tu,

    Interesting question, don’t know. Would take a bit to figure out.

    Taking three year look at the Oilers PK. From 2017-today, the Oilers PK is:

    2nd best overall on the road at 82.2%, just .6 behind number one Calgary.
    31st best overall at home at 71.2%, a full 5% worse than the 2nd worst Winnipeg home powerplay.

    Interestingly Calgary’s home powerplay, though 1st on the road is 24th at home. So maybe it’s a Canadian thing.

    Canadian team home PKs 2017-2020 are 9th (Montreal), 16th (Vancouver), 17th (Toronto), 24th (Calgary), 29-31st (Ottawa, Winnipeg, Edmonton)
    Canadian team road PKs 2017-2020 are 1st (Calgary), 2nd (Edmonton), 6th (Winnipeg), 19th (Ottawa), 20th (Vancouver), 22nd (Toronto), and 31st (Montreal).

    Effect doesn’t prove cause, but interesting that the three canadian prairie teams are really solid killing on the road, and pretty poor at home. Then you have Montreal with the opposite effect.

    Further analysis for descrepancies over 2017-2020:

    Edmonton has the largest drop at home dropping 11% and 29 spots in ranking.
    Winnipeg second with a 5.1% drop and 25 ranks
    Calgary third with a 3.3 drop and 23 ranks.

    Pittsburgh, Ottawa and St. Louis are 4th-6th but dropping 2.7, 1.8 and 1.7 respectively.

    The only other two worse at home are Washington and LA, but by less than 1%.

    The biggest difference the other way is Montreal who is 9.2% better at home. Buffalo is 6.6% better at home and Minnesota 6.1 % better at home.

    • Darth Tu says:

      That’s pretty intriguing. Obviously like you say, without digging it’s hard to prove what the cause is. You get into all sorts of variables like – injuries to key personnel, net minder etc. too.

      For this season in isolation, Vegas actually bounce quite a way between home and away as well, although not as far as the Oilers.

      OIlers Home = 74.5% (29th)
      Oilers Away = 88.5% (1st)
      Vegas Home = 76.8% (26th)
      Vegas Away = 83.1% (6th)

      Granted Vegas have been shorthanded 82 times in total at home compared to the Oilers 55. Away, it’s closer, Oilers shorthanded 78 times to Vegas’ 71.

  62. OriginalPouzar says:

    Justthestatsman: Good question.Another good reason to be mad!I remember in the olden days Rod Phillips losing his mind over a 3rd man in call on the Oilers.It turned out in those days the wording was something like “third man in an altercation”, so it didn’t need to involve fighting majors or even two players being penalized.Not sure how it works today.

    Ya, this is what I intimated at the very end of yesterday’s thread – my understanding is that third man in doesn’t require “a fight” but its the third man “in to an alternation”.

    Of course, that could be called on many scrums depending on his liberal they want to be – Lindholm was in there “interfering” with a two man altercation.

  63. Reja says:

    Did Holland make a trade for a 3C or top 6 type forward if not why isn’t Benson being called up. Enough of the turtle bullshit we need to win the next 2 before the break or will be chasers for weeks

  64. OriginalPouzar says:

    AndyDufresne:
    Is Los Angles our dance partner?

    Rob Blake and Ken Holland apparently have relationship that is decades old.

    If the trade were to involve Tyler Toffoli (27)and Trevor Lewis (33) to the Oilers (both UFA in 2020) and the Kings were to take back Sam Gagner to help lessen the Cap Gap…..What prospect would have to be included going to the Kings??

    While this deal miay not be optimal (ala Jean Gabriel Pageau). there may not be many options to upgrade for a playoff run. (with many buyers in the market)

    Obviously there will be more options in the summer….with better deals available via Free Agency and Trade…..but that doesnt help us now.

    If the B’s are off limits (Bouchard, Broberg, Benson) that leaves Samorukov, Jones and Ryan McLeod as the most likely trade chips.

    I understand why nobody likes this deal on paper because we’d all like something better…so of course you aim as high as possible….but this shit is messy in todays NHL (cap world). IF we want a deal at or before the deadline, its likely to look something like this….something less than perfect/ideal..

    I would say that Samorukov is much more off-limits than Benson or Jones.

    Holland and the organization seem quite high on him and he was developing very well in the first half of his rookie pro season until his recent injury.

  65. Scungilli Slushy says:

    After Kassians comments about ‘the incident’, I wonder how the Turtles are feeling about the next game against Kassian.

    Nothing much probably happens, but hearing him say he knows he can make those hits now (and what can the league do after this?) wouldn’t leave a good feeling about coming around the corner when he’s on the ice.

    Just keep it below the head Kass, and not too many strides.

    Awesome job by the NHL working for player safety.

  66. OriginalPouzar says:

    Man The Athletic puts out some A-rated pieces – this is just a clip from a very lengthy espouse on John Marino – Just wanted to post the part relevant to Oilers fans and that, essentially after Chiarelli was gone, there was no chance he was signing with the Oilers – mainly due to lack of opportunity via depth chart:

    https://theathletic.com/1519186/2020/01/14/penguins-john-marino-trade-oilers-rookie-of-the-year-sidney-crosby/?source=twittered

    As the deadline loomed, Marino’s twin brother pieced together a spreadsheet. It listed every NHL team and how Marino might fit in their system. Paul ran numbers, built depth charts, researched tax rates and calculated travel times in each city. The Oilers were an organization in transition. Chiarelli and McLellan were both gone. And they had a logjam of defensemen.

    Marino weighed his options. His family knew the decision was up in the air, but his teammates were certain he’d turn down the Oilers and come back to school. They voted him as a team co-captain for the upcoming season. One day this summer, while Marino was working out at Harvard, head coach Ted Donato finally asked Marino whether he was coming back to school for his senior year. Marino had made his decision. He told Donato yes. Marino had helped the Crimson to its first Beanpot title since 1993 and its first Frozen Four since 1994, but he had unfinished business in college hockey.

    “He had every intention of going back to Harvard,” Marino’s father says.

    The Penguins believed they could change Marino’s mind. They had a secret weapon: their scout Kevin Stevens. Stevens had coached Marino in youth hockey, and Stevens’ son, Luke, is close friends with Marino. The Marinos trusted Stevens. Rutherford swung the deal — Marino for a conditional sixth-round pick — and set to work. Marino was at his on-campus apartment at Harvard when his agent phoned about the trade. “It all happened pretty fast,” Marino says. He spoke with Stevens, head coach Mike Sullivan and director of player development Scott Young. Marino came away convinced that the Penguins’ need for defensemen gave him a path to the NHL in the near future.

    “It just felt like the right fit at the right time,” Marino says. “There’s an opportunity. At the end of the day, you’re only as good as you play. You’re going to have to play well. … There’s always that chance that you’re not going to make it. I think it’s a risk either way. But you have to be confident in yourself.”

  67. OriginalPouzar says:

    DarthTu:
    Glad to see PRussell get back into the lineup.I’m guessing with Khaira still out of the lineup we might see Yamo on the PK?

    It was Drai last game and that is sub-optimal.

    P. Russell will likely get some PK minutes and Tip did mention Haas as an option (prior to the flames game).

  68. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Man The Athletic puts out some A-rated pieces – this is just a clip from a very lengthy espouse on John Marino – Just wanted to post the part relevant to Oilers fans and that, essentially after Chiarelli was gone, there was no chance he was signing with the Oilers – mainly due to lack of opportunity via depth chart:

    https://theathletic.com/1519186/2020/01/14/penguins-john-marino-trade-oilers-rookie-of-the-year-sidney-crosby/?source=twittered

    As the deadline loomed, Marino’s twin brother pieced together a spreadsheet. It listed every NHL team and how Marino might fit in their system. Paul ran numbers, built depth charts, researched tax rates and calculated travel times in each city. The Oilers were an organization in transition. Chiarelli and McLellan were both gone. And they had a logjam of defensemen.

    Marino weighed his options. His family knew the decision was up in the air, but his teammates were certain he’d turn down the Oilers and come back to school. They voted him as a team co-captain for the upcoming season. One day this summer, while Marino was working out at Harvard, head coach Ted Donato finally asked Marino whether he was coming back to school for his senior year. Marino had made his decision. He told Donato yes. Marino had helped the Crimson to its first Beanpot title since 1993 and its first Frozen Four since 1994, but he had unfinished business in college hockey.

    “He had every intention of going back to Harvard,” Marino’s father says.

    The Penguins believed they could change Marino’s mind. They had a secret weapon: their scout Kevin Stevens. Stevens had coached Marino in youth hockey, and Stevens’ son, Luke, is close friends with Marino. The Marinos trusted Stevens. Rutherford swung the deal — Marino for a conditional sixth-round pick — and set to work. Marino was at his on-campus apartment at Harvard when his agent phoned about the trade. “It all happened pretty fast,” Marino says. He spoke with Stevens, head coach Mike Sullivan and director of player development Scott Young. Marino came away convinced that the Penguins’ need for defensemen gave him a path to the NHL in the near future.

    “It just felt like the right fit at the right time,” Marino says. “There’s an opportunity. At the end of the day, you’re only as good as you play. You’re going to have to play well. … There’s always that chance that you’re not going to make it. I think it’s a risk either way. But you have to be confident in yourself.”

    Thanks for that OP.

    So it’s pretty much exactly as the level headed posters said it was: opportunity and relationships.

    I can’t believe I and others took shit for having that very obvious position.

  69. Darth Tu says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Drai seems to do well 3 on 5, so I can understand using him in those situations. I’d rather he was off the PK for the most part to keep him fresh for 5×5 play, or powerplay work. I understand he at least has experience PKing, but you’re right Russell sliding in there, or Haas – I can see his skillset working well on the PK would be my preference.

    Yamomoto was doing well at PK for the Condors so as he gets more game time with the Oilers I’d be happy to see him taking on that role with the Oilers. I understand not rushing things though.

  70. godot10 says:

    Reja:
    Did Holland make a trade for a 3C or top 6 type forward if not why isn’t Benson being called up. Enough of the turtle bullshitwe need to win the next 2 before the break or will be chasers for weeks

    While Kassian is “on a break”, he is still taking up a roster spot.

  71. Harpers Hair says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Thanks for that OP.

    So it’s pretty much exactly as the level headed posters said it was:opportunity and relationships.

    I can’t believe I and others took shit for having that very obvious position.

    And it’s a continuing problem for the Oilers if they try and sign college free agents. They’ll have to weed out the D core soon.

  72. Reja says:

    Darth Tu:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Drai seems to do well 3 on 5, so I can understand using him in those situations.I’d rather he was off the PK for the most part to keep him fresh for 5×5 play, or powerplay work.I understand he at least has experience PKing, but you’re right Russell sliding in there, or Haas – I can see his skillset working well on the PK would be my preference.

    Yamomoto was doing well at PK for the Condors so as he gets more game time with the Oilers I’d be happy to see him taking on that role with the Oilers.I understand not rushing things though.

    I used to love when the Oilers were short handed back in the eighties because they attacked all the time and teams would get so deflated after giving up a shortie. Anyhow enough of the old days what I’m seeing now is we have so many opportunities for two on ones and the they don’t go for it instead they just ice it.

    • Munny says:

      Depends on where you are in your shift, Reja. More so these days than the days of yore. We still take our SH opps when the opp is there. Just don’t want to turn an opp into an oops either.

  73. Munny says:

    OriginalPouzar: the third man “in to an alternation”.

    So many jokes—mostly dirty—so I will go with “Orson Welles would be proud” and crack an Old Vienna in honour, instead.

  74. Zelepukin says:

    I’d love to see the real data on our record at home while wearing the pylon jerseys versus the blues and the blacks. Does this exist somewhere?

  75. jtblack says:

    J.G. PAGEAU

    it would be very Oilers like to chase a player on a career year ….

    PAGEAU SH% last 4 years.

    2016 -7%
    2017 -9%
    2018 -5%
    2019 – 18%

    If he’s a pure rental .. I hope we don’t give up much .. certainly would be a nice add regardless if he’s on a heater this season …seems to have decent fancies overall

  76. OriginalPouzar says:

    Darth Tu:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Drai seems to do well 3 on 5, so I can understand using him in those situations.I’d rather he was off the PK for the most part to keep him fresh for 5×5 play, or powerplay work.I understand he at least has experience PKing, but you’re right Russell sliding in there, or Haas – I can see his skillset working well on the PK would be my preference.

    Yamomoto was doing well at PK for the Condors so as he gets more game time with the Oilers I’d be happy to see him taking on that role with the Oilers.I understand not rushing things though.

    Yup, this is in line with what my position has been.

    The PK and the hole JJ leaves when not in the lineup has been, and continues to be, a concern of mine.

    We saw Drai there last game but I think that was because, by the time the first PK time, it was a crucial part of the game and, well, Drai is good at it.

    I think, for the most part, we’ll see P. Russell step up and we may see Haas get some PK time.

    100%, in my opinion, PK will be a part of Yamamoto’s game as an NHL player – of course, he’s a rookie that has never PK’d at this level before so he will need to be eased in. He was fairly successful at it in the AHL – not quite the same though.

  77. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Harpers Hair: And it’s a continuing problem for the Oilers if they try and sign college free agents. They’ll have to weed out the D core soon.

    They should only be signing forward college free agents at this time unless a good RH is available, the depth chart is good for them.

    Only 2 long term solutions in Bear and Bouchard on the right side.

    Forward, especially wing, is wide open.

  78. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    Anyone think this may be “Job” George’s last year at DOPS?

  79. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Jethro Tull:
    Then surely it follows that this may well happen again, should there be a bottleneck at the NHL level. That’s an awful lot of talent that Ken wants to over ripen.

    The only AHL player who should be here right now is Benson.

    Past that they’ll have couple LHD, no RHD, one, maybe two wingers and a C who doesn’t score much.

    EDM’s prospect list is thin and shouldn’t deter anyone except a LHD and maybe a C.

    LT wrote about the same thing recently: https://theathletic.com/1528297/2020/01/12/lowetide-oilers-prospect-pipeline-could-deliver-below-average-group-in-2020-21/

    I have no idea whether or not Holland’s reputation for “over-ripening” deters anyone. I have to look at DET’s college signings over the years, but can’t right now.

  80. Reja says:

    I’m glad Smith is starting Kosh looked like shit last game he was fumbling and bumbling simple saves, no rebound control and handling the puck was scary. I’m surprised Tippett went with Kosh last game I’m not saying this is a must game but it’s close this team needs a statement game to the league that enjoys laughing at us. Tippett Is going to have this team going hard out of the gate and now that we have a legit second line that can score I’m expecting a good night for RNH and company.

  81. Reja says:

    Reja: I used to love when the Oilers were short handed back in the eighties because they attacked all the time and teams would get so deflated after giving up a shortie. Anyhow enough of the old days what I’m seeing now is we have so many opportunities for two on ones and the they don’t go for it instead they just ice it.

    Maybe Yamo could be the little buzz saw that draws a penalty or gets a breakaway on the PK it’s been a long time since we had a player that fits that description.

  82. Bulging Twine says:

    Backstrom signs for 9.2 till his age 36 season (in which he turns 37 on Nov 23).

    There are only 5 FW’s playing in their age 36 season or older this year:

    Thornton
    Marleau
    Koivu
    Kovalchuk
    Spezza

    Risky, especially at 9.2

  83. Munny says:

    Bulging Twine,

    They’re kicking the can down the road.

    They’re in cap hell right now, so adding those years at the end brings the AAV-now down.

  84. Reja says:

    Not much love for Tkachuk these days I could see him dropping the gloves to redeem himself and the family name you know his dad is telling him this. I think it’ll be someone other than Kassian I wonder what the Vegas odds are that he fights a Oiler in the next rematch. The battle of Alberta might get interesting after taking a sabbatical for 15 years.

  85. jtblack says:

    Bulging Twine:
    Backstrom signs for 9.2 till his age 36 season (in which he turns 37 on Nov 23).

    There are only 5 FW’s playing in their age 36 season or older this year:

    Thornton
    Marleau
    Koivu
    Kovalchuk
    Spezza

    Risky, especially at 9.2

    The contract brings him to age 36 / 37 ..so how many 33,34,35 yr oldds are playing and playing well ..
    Backstrom is elite of the elite. He’s a good skater and has very high IQ. My guess is that he is effective through this contract .. the one after that is riskier …

  86. Nit64 says:

    ORIGINALPOUZARsays:
    January 14, 2020 at 2:38 pm
    I believe its a couple of paragraphs that are permitted and this is about 1/25th of the piece – its massive.

    OP,

    If that was a couple of paragraphs that couple is from Bountiful BC. And OK was about 3 lines:

    LOWETIDEsays:
    November 2, 2019 at 9:03 pm
    Yeah, three lines of quote (kind of a sample) and a link is allowable I have been told.

    • OriginalPouzar says:

      In the context of the piece, it was a tiny sample.

      I have zero desire to engage in a discussion about this – if LT wants to delete, revise, speak to me, etc. he can and I will listen.

      • Lowetide says:

        I would appreciate posters following a guideline that delivers only a portion of the piece. I think that’s fair to the writer. As the post has been up for several hours, we’ll let it be, but for future reference, three lines and a link is preferred.

  87. OriginalPouzar says:

    Woodguy v2.0: They should only be signing forward college free agents at this time unless a good RH is available, the depth chart is good for them.

    Only 2 long term solutions in Bear and Bouchard on the right side.

    Forward, especially wing, is wide open.

    Don’t sleep on Phil Kemp!

  88. Bulging Twine says:

    jtblack,

    6 FW’s playing in their age 35 season:

    Steen
    Filppula
    Neilsen
    Backes
    Pavelski
    Parise

  89. Harpers Hair says:

    Woodguy v2.0: The only AHL player who should be here right now is Benson.

    Past that they’ll have couple LHD, no RHD, one, maybe two wingers and a C who doesn’t score much.

    EDM’s prospect list is thin and shouldn’t deter anyone except a LHD and maybe a C.

    LT wrote about the same thing recently: https://theathletic.com/1528297/2020/01/12/lowetide-oilers-prospect-pipeline-could-deliver-below-average-group-in-2020-21/

    I have no idea whether or not Holland’s reputation for “over-ripening” deters anyone.I have to look at DET’s college signings over the years, but can’t right now.

    The logjam at RHD includes Larsson, Bear, Benning (If re-signed) Bouchard and Persson.

    Highly unlikely a high end prospect like Marino agrees to be #6 on the depth chart.

    They’re looking for a clear path to the NHL.

    It’s why Brogan Rafferty signed with VCR.

    Tanev is aging, Myers is there long term and the Canucks have been trying to trade Stetcher for a while.

    Rafferty is already at #4 on the depth chart and can move up in the near future.

  90. Harpers Hair says:

    OriginalPouzar: Don’t sleep on Phil Kemp!

    Even Phil Kemp is sleeping on Phil Kemp.😝

  91. Bulging Twine says:

    Total goals of the 5 FWs in their age 36+ season: 22
    Avg: 4.4

    Total goals of the 6 in age 35 season: 32 (14 by Parise)
    Avg: 5.3

    We’ll see what happens the last two years. He’s a good player with a good head. I wouldn’t call him an elite skater.
    9.2 though

  92. OriginalPouzar says:

    John Marino was NOT a high end prospect.

    Brogan Rafferty is certainly not a high end prospect “already”.

    • geowal says:

      Depends what you’re calling “high-end”

      From LTs June 2019, where he ranked him 18th: “Marino’s decision to sign (or not) with the Oilers remains an unanswered question, but the scouts I’ve spoken to suggest he’s a true NHL prospect who will play pro.”

      The greater scouting community may not have had him as high end. But it is clear the Penguins had him surrounded based on your earlier article posting. It also seems to me the Oilers either didn’t, or failed to get value proportionate to the value he gives the Penguins. At the very least making the pick conditional with chance to move up on games played would have been more satisfying. For what little they got back, I wouldn’t have had an issue with Holland risking getting nothing by holding out and trying to get a better return.

  93. Harpers Hair says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    John Marino was NOT a high end prospect.

    Brogan Rafferty is certainly not a high end prospect “already”.

    I would suggest you are resoundingly wrong on both counts.

    Draft pedigree is worthless three years later.

    Results matter.

    Marino is playing a prominent role IN THE NHL..

    Rafferty is killing the AHL with 33 points in 39 games.

  94. Wolfpack says:

    Reja:
    Not much love for Tkachuk these days I could see him dropping the gloves to redeem himself and the family name you know his dad is telling him this. I think it’ll be someone other than Kassian I wonder what the Vegas odds are that he fights a Oiler in the next rematch. The battle of Alberta mightget interesting after taking a sabbatical for 15 years.

    I am not convinced that his Dad is telling him he should drop the gloves. Keith Tkachuk was a dirt-bag player just like his kid, and when you consider Keith only fought 4 or 5 times per season, at a time when players were held more accountable by their peers, to me that makes his dad as much a pretender as his kid.

  95. jtblack says:

    Bulging Twine:
    jtblack,

    6 FW’s playing in their age 35 season:

    Steen
    Filppula
    Neilsen
    Backes
    Pavelski
    Parise

    35 & 36 aren’t looking to promising ,…. hmmmmmmmm

    maybe I eat my words.

  96. OriginalPouzar says:

    Harpers Hair: I would suggest you are resoundingly wrong on both counts.

    Draft pedigree is worthless three years later.

    Results matter.

    Marino is playing a prominent role IN THE NHL..

    Rafferty is killing the AHL with 33 points in 39 games.

    A soon to be 25 year old with zero NHL games.

    I hope that a 25 year old is doing well in the AHL.

    High end prospect……. I bet the under on 100 NHL games.

    Yes, 20 year old Phil Kemp, top 4 on the US WJC team 2019 is “sleeping on himself”

    I may bet the under on 20 more NHL games for this soon to be 25 year old.

    Marino is a fine NHL player, he has popped and won’t be looking back. He was not a high end prospect.

  97. Bulging Twine says:

    jtblack: 35 & 36 aren’t looking to promising ,…. hmmmmmmmm

    maybe I eat my words.

    I looked back, you didn’t call him an elite skater. You said good skater. My bad. I agree, good skater.

  98. OriginalPouzar says:

    I wonder if Baertschi and Goldobin are “high end prospects” given their AHL success.

    Age matters none I guess.

    I wonder if a 24 year old d-man playing with NHL players can artificially prop up his numbers?

  99. OriginalPouzar says:

    TSN reporting that Bob Nicholson did put in a call to voice their concerns – not specified exactly what they spoke about.

  100. jtblack says:

    Bulging Twine: I looked back, you didn’t call him an elite skater.You said good skater.My bad.I agree, good skater.

    i def said elite player … for sure a good skater …but Father Time wins 100% of the time. Just depends when the big decline takes place …

    Backstrom has the slight advantage that Kuzy can play 1A and Backs can play a little easier comp .. might keep him playing well for a few more years at least …

    certainly years 4 and 5 are a risk

  101. Harpers Hair says:

    OriginalPouzar: A soon to be 25 year old with zero NHL games.

    I hope that a 25 year old is doing well in the AHL.

    High end prospect……. I bet the under on 100 NHL games.

    Yes, 20 year old Phil Kemp, top 4 on the US WJC team 2019 is “sleeping on himself”

    I may bet the under on 20 more NHL games for this soon to be 25 year old.

    Marino is a fine NHL player, he has popped and won’t be looking back.He was not a high end prospect.

    Okay, let’s do a re-draft since you’re still pimping Phil Kemp.

    All three players played in the ECAC.

    Here are their third seasons in college.

    Kemp: 15GP 1G 5P (season still in progress)

    Marino: 33GP 3G 11P

    Rafferty: 38GP 4G 24P

    Anything jump out at you?

    Kemp is producing at the same rate as he did in his freshman season…in other words…one years experience three times.

    • meanashell11 says:

      Yeah, because points for a defenseman are important…..

      Phil is much more of a shutdown D and I am certain that his assignment has changed over the seasons where he is now facing much tougher competition.

      By the way, I live in Greenwich CT. My kids played hockey with Phil’s brother and I know the family very very well. I pimped him to this blog before the draft.

  102. Trevor457 says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    Fantastic idea. You will get on TV … thats for sure 🙂

    Everytime the Turlte touches the puck…the crowd should chant TUUUUR–TTLE

    Maybe throw a plastic turtle or two on the ice… 🙂

    Lets get this BoA cranked up baby!

    Should Tkachuk happen to score…..LET IT RAIN TURTLES !

    Someone with entrepenerial spirit could make a killing selling plastic turtles outside the building to fans on thier way in.

    Oil should go all in and make it the official “Turtle-chuck” night. Give a free stuffed turtle to all fans, and see who can chuck their turtle the closest to a Tkachuk picture on ice.

  103. Trevor457 says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    Fantastic idea. You will get on TV … thats for sure 🙂

    Everytime the Turlte touches the puck…the crowd should chant TUUUUR–TTLE

    Maybe throw a plastic turtle or two on the ice… 🙂

    Lets get this BoA cranked up baby!

    Should Tkachuk happen to score…..LET IT RAIN TURTLES !

    Someone with entrepenerial spirit could make a killing selling plastic turtles outside the building to fans on thier way in.

    Oil should go all in and make it the official “Turtle-chuck” night. Give a free stuffed turtle to all fans, and see who can chuck their turtle the closest to a Tkachuk picture on ice!

  104. nelson88 says:

    Ahhh. The mythical Brogan Rafferty once again. Great name. Sure he is a terrific kid

    Seems like a slightly younger version of Matt Benning who I am a fan of. Not so sure he’s top 4 material on a serious cup contender

  105. Harpers Hair says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I wonder if Baertschi and Goldobin are “high end prospects” given their AHL success.

    Age matters none I guess.

    I wonder if a 24 year old d-man playing with NHL players can artificially prop up his numbers?

    Rafferty has more points than both Baertschi and Goldobin.

    Who is zooming who?

    • Wilde says:

      *Leaving a flag here to note that this myopic Rafferty point was debunked by yours truly recently; I can grab it if anyone’s curious

      • BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

        Please do!

        • Wilde says:

          Wilde:
          Just want to clear up the Utica stuff because I see it keeps coming up over and over again:

          This Comets team is one of a couple teams per year that randomly end up with what are blatantly NHL-quality players that are pushed out due to differences in view of management and coaching staffs, surprise rookie situations, contract stuff, etc; and the result here is that you’ve got obviously serviceable depth skill guys like Goldobin, Baerschi and Boucher patrolling lines and PP1 units where they’re going to obviously zoom everything everywhere.

          Here’s an example: TJ Tynan, Brandon Pirri and Daniel Carr played full seasons for the Chicago Wolves last year, and as a result there was a rookie AHL Dman, overage RHD signing out of the WHL, named Dylan Coghlan, who put up 40 pts in his rookie season as a Feb birthday 20-year-old.

          Even just a cursory look at these things dispels their use (basically as totems) by busybody dilettantes who would, if they were a serious person, frontload their argument with a basic counting of the bare minimum context and make their case for why it is /even though/ there’s possible inflating factors at play, there’s some value to be found beyond them

          Wilde:
          didn’t want to be the literal first person to do even a little bit of the work, but it just so happens that when people just are lazily trading back and forth you can end up with a conversation, that started weeks ago, progress at a mind-numbingly slow pace because the Allure of the Post is just too strong, I guess

          (Both posts from December 28th, 2019)

  106. Harpers Hair says:

    nelson88:
    Ahhh.The mythical Brogan Rafferty once again. Great name. Sure he is a terrific kid

    Seems like a slightly younger version of Matt Benning who I am a fan of. Not so sure he’s top 4 material on a serious cup contender

    Not sure either but Benning is an NHL player with 229 games to his credit and Rafferty has better stats in both college and the minors.

    Getting an undrafted RHD who can play is a major win.

  107. Reja says:

    Wolfpack: I am not convinced that his Dad is telling him he should drop the gloves. Keith Tkachuk was a dirt-bag player just like his kid, and when you consider Keith only fought 4 or 5 times per season, at a time when players were held more accountable by their peers, to me that makes his dad as much a pretender as his kid.

    Yes his dad was a whiny sleaze ball but unless he drops the gloves in the back to back there’s a whole list of tougher players that are going to try to get him going and embarrass him.

  108. nelson88 says:

    Harpers Hair,

    Agreed. Oilers had a big win getting an nhl player drafted in the 6th round for free.

    May want to check your stats though as BR does not have better stats than Benning in the minors and by age Benning was leaving school at about the same age BR was about to start his freshman year. Age difference. It’s a thing

  109. nelson88 says:

    Games too late to watch tonight.

    Go Oilers!!!

  110. Scungilli Slushy says:

    I’m hoping Kassian’s moment releases pressure on the team in that all of the hacking on Connor and any others was answered, in house.

    Forget about it for awhile, play hockey and win games. Hopefully the hacking slows down a bit now that it’s clear opting out of what Kassian sees as a transgression isn’t a viable option.

    I commented before Lucic was traded he should do it, given nothing was working for him and he was brought in to be the bad cop.

    Rag doll a player hacking and take the suspension, his rep would mean he faced no long term consequences.

    He did do it, but not with a player of any consequence. That Kassian went after a the right guy hopefully helps.

  111. leadfarmer says:

    Only thing I care about Rafferty is does he live on Bakers Street

  112. OriginalPouzar says:

    Harpers Hair: Okay, let’s do a re-draft since you’re still pimping Phil Kemp.

    All three players played in the ECAC.

    Here are their third seasons in college.

    Kemp: 15GP1G5P (season still in progress)

    Marino:33GP 3G 11P

    Rafferty: 38GP 4G 24P

    Anything jump out at you?

    Kemp is producing at the same rate as he did in his freshman season…in other words…one years experience three times.

    Why are you comparing one player’s 23 year old season to another player’s 20 year old season – that is wild wild stuff.

    When Rafferty was in his 20 year old season, he wasn’t even in college yet.

    When Phil Kemp was 19 he was playing top 4 for the US at the World Juniors.

    Also, why are you using points to analyze a d-man?

  113. OriginalPouzar says:

    nelson88:
    Harpers Hair,

    Agreed. Oilers had a big win getting an nhlplayer drafted in the 6th round for free.

    May want to check your stats though as BR does not have better stats than Benning in the minors and by age Benning was leaving school at about the same age BR was about to start his freshman year. Age difference. It’s a thing

    Its absolutely wild that a few weeks ago, he told us that “top prospects show themselves early”, or words to that effect, in his effort to disparage the development of Even Bouchard and now he totally disregards age and talks about a soon to be 25 year old AHL d-man as a top prospect and starts to compare his numbers as a 23 year old in college to player’s college numbers as 19 and 20 year olds.

    Wild stuff!

    This poster can add much benefit to the forum as he does have knowledge, however, this, yes, this is just pure trolling and I rarely use that word.

  114. OriginalPouzar says:

    BUF up 2-1 on VEG after 2.

    PIT up 4-1 on MIN after 2.

    WIN up 2-0 on VAN nearing the end of the 1st.

  115. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Pettersson is an unreal player. I think he will be Connor’s biggest challenge, as I’ve commented before, in the years to come.

    I also think Connor will prevail.

    Even with the Haggerty, I’m afraid Mr Tkachuk’s Hair the exceptional Pet won’t be enough.

  116. leadfarmer says:

    Hard to really judge a Yale’s defensemens point production when they don’t have a single double digit point producer

  117. New Improved Darkness says:

    So I Google “hypocrisy” this morning (one can never know too many words) and Google brings up search results in the left-hand column, and in the right hand column there’s 16:6 image box with a montage of five or six small images (it’s hard to tell), and underneath this is a quickie definition of “hypocrisy” attributed to Wikipedia.

    As presented, it kind of looks like the image montage is associated with the Wikipedia blurb, at least until you look more closely.

    Within the image montage, there’s only one image component large enough to stand alone: a cartoon of a ghost-like figure—Caspar-white, sketched with crescent-shaped arms fashioned out of balloon-animal balloons, but nevertheless managing to expectantly wield knife and fork.

    He’s depicted hovering over a sprawling 2″-thick slab of grade A Alberta beef with the caption: “I eat almost exclusively meat-based meals, but only from non-GMO sources.”

    Until circa 500 BCE, that described 99% of humanity, in so far as it could be feasibly arranged.

    ———

    [*] Involuntary vegetarianism among the pointy-toothed horde allergic to Lembas bread did not worry the Gingerbread Man, but did worry everyone else. An excellent way to go to the mattresses if you’re a Gingerbread Man with doomed knees, but unfortunately Orc armor has an opposite-Gimli problem, being too wide rather than too tall, so it’s difficult for a gingerorc to blend in. Plus you have to dunk your toes and fingers and nose in a lot of moose musk, or your gingerblood will soon give you away.

    One day some frustrated gingerorc finally said “to hay with this“, abandoned his nasty Orc garb, and instead taking up camouflaged refuge in an animatronic suit of armor, which he fashioned himself, operating the controls from within the torso cavity, but with mechanically operated arms and legs.

    “But what if I’m pinked, and I don’t bleed?” worried the reformed gingerorc, having once witnessed the damage two juvenile German termites can do to an entire gingerbread house.

    “Failure to bleed might be a dead giveaway.”

    And so with four discarded bicycle innertubes and the pumping mechanisms from four discarded bottle-rockets, he fashioned a 60 psi ketchup delivery system down the full length of each animatronic limb.

    A most excellent disguise, but unfortunately “torso” fever soon set in—a particularly acute form of cabin fever—and he soon began to conceive of himself as the gingergod’s gift to mobile hydromechanics, taking on all comers with his mighty sword.

    Until one day he picked a fight with the Sword Fetched of Watery Tart. This did not go well.

    “Just a flesh wound,” he cried, undeterred as the pressure indicator on ketchup pump #1 fell to zero.

    “Just a flesh wound,” he cried again, undeterred as the pressure indicator on ketchup pump #2 fell to zero.

    “Just a flesh wound,” he cried for the third time, undeterred as the pressure indicator on ketchup pump #4 fell to zero.

    “Come back here, I’ll bite your face off!” he cried, as the pressure indicator on ketchup pump #3—his last remaining pump—fell to zero. He didn’t threaten to bite off Arthur’s legs. That taunt was simply too close to home.

    “Good thing he didn’t cut my mechanical head off, as well” he muttered to himself as he unbuckled his five-point harness straps, “as I haven’t yet scrounged pressure pump #5.”

    “Although, in this instance,” he reasoned further, “he might have simply assumed—after a bloodless decapitation, this being a fifth evisceration—that there was simply no more ketchup at the inn.”

    For the moment, however, the question remained: whether to go to the bother of dressing up to gain admission to Costco’s $1.50 hotdog lost-leader concession stand, and legitimately pump all the ketchup you can eat into your variously concealed innertubes from that industrial-scale ketchup kiosk, or to merely sneak somewhere in the dark of night for an unpaid ketchup replenishment; being only 2″ thick, it’s amazing how you can sneak around without shearing any acorn buttons off your gingerbread waistcoat.

    “Lily liver!” he shouted again, for good measure, while he secured some plastic sandwich bags around his small, absorbent feet with a pair of giant twist ties—giant twist ties as used by grocers the world over to restrain green lettuce-monsters, lest they take advantage of the libertine guacamole after hours.

    “I’m sure there’s ketchup strewn everywhere!” groaned the Gingerbread Man, giving each twist-tie four extra twists around his skate-blade shins. And then a fifth loop for good measure; there’s nothing worse than a personal ketchup stain to wound gingerpride.

    ———

    Colby Cosh: Sci-fi horror in the supermarket: a fleeting vision of a world without lettuce — 28 November 2018

    How important is lettuce to you? When romaine lettuce disappeared from the grocery shelves last week after an urgent plea from food-inspection agencies in Canada and the U.S., I think we were all left rethinking the role of produce in our lives. When my body revolts against my usual diet of flesh, and signals that I need something green in a larger quantity than a side of guacamole, I usually don’t involve lettuce. Probably I’ve inherited rural prejudices from my ancestors. Lettuce isn’t food; it’s the food we feed food.

    ———

    In last week’s episode: “I eat almost exclusively meat-based meals, but only from non-GMO sources.”

    Until circa 500 BCE, that described 99% of humanity, as previously stated.

    “I would never spoil my dinner with a meat-based meal!” shrieked Dracula, infuriated to the core of his being over the Romanian long-form census, missing again his old Maharashtra mansion, and not for the first time.

    “And my summer home in back of the Dharashiv cave complex, with the flush, revolving slab opening onto his ever-plentiful Jain larder: ideal for replenishing one’s vitamins, 100% AYFA–free, in between long bouts of restful fasting and meditation.

    [*] AYFA: animals you feed animals.

    ———

    After 500 BCE, when some Jains got the original crazy idea of all time, meat-based-meals at every opportunity began to describe less than 99% of humanity.

    The Jain cuisine is completely vegetarian and also excludes underground vegetables such as potato, garlic, onion etc, to prevent injuring small insects and microorganisms; and also to prevent the entire plant getting uprooted and killed.

    So they say. But Dracula didn’t uproot himself to Romania in 1200 CE for no good reason. But it was sure good while it lasted, no worries there.

    “That’s the second cheek abscess this month,” Dracula pounded the table in frustration in 1203 CE.

    Jains! Garlic-filching scoundrels to the last man, woman, and child.”

    Dracula consulted his allergist, who suggested that a couple hundred years in Romania would cure him of his allergic reaction, once and for all. And so it did. (Helps when you rub your allergist out of an old Arab lamp.) And so Dracula overstayed his original Romanian Rx by a long while. Not that he could handle garlic in direct contact, but garlic by indirect-ingestion no longer posed him any internal flesh-rot problems or digestive discomfort, whatsoever.

    ———

    From Corgis to Corn: A Brief Look at the Long History of GMO Technology — 9 August 2015

    After five years of extensive health and environmental testing, Calgene’s Flavr Savr tomato became the first GMO food-crop to be approved for commercial production by the USDA. These tomatoes were modified to include a DNA sequence that inhibited production of a natural tomato protein, increasing the firmness and extending the shelf life of the Flavr Savr variety.

    Which leads us to the horrifying prospect of GMO ketchup.

    “Nooooooo!” shrieked Dracula, who despite his meatless meat-based-diet was not that big on vegetablepickled fruit-mush in the first place.

    “Good thing I addressed that allergy problem, and still have all my teeth,” muttered Dracula darkly.

    “Otherwise, who knows that I might be forced to consume in my endentured dotage as a blood substitute.”

    “Whatever,” shrugged the Gingerbread Man in the animatronic armor suit, who as a crisp-yet-tender plant-based wafer intensely flavoured with a root-based extract feared neither Jains nor Dracula, not the least little bit. (Ravenous Germanic toddler-termites were another matter.)

    “What does King Arthur know of GMO-laden ketchup to begin with? It gushed out of my limb stumps like a Humvee had just rolled over a ketchup-filled water bottle, and he didn’t even notice the aberrant systolic viscosity.”

    ———

    Bridge troll: What’s the blood pressure threshold for immediate emergency referral to treat hypertensive crisis?

    Arthur: Systolic or diastolic?

    Bridge troll: I don’t know that.

    [Awwwwwghhh. Bridge troll plumets off bridge.]

    Sir Bedevere: You don’t feel the least bik bed for the Bleck Knight, do you?

    Arthur: You know, I’ve been pondering that and I figure he had five separate hearts—

    Sir Bedevere:five hurts?—

    Arthur: —and a lifelong diet of French cheesecake to ruin them all.

    Sir Bedevere: Wut’s wang weth French chizkek?

    Arthur: Toasted coconut triple cheesecake, for one thing.

    Sir Bedevere: Thit’s an English invinshun, you cloownking nit.

    ———

    An ancient form of cheesecake may have been a popular dish in ancient Greece even prior to Romans’ adoption of it with the conquest of Greece. … A more modern version is found in Forme of Cury, an English cookbook from 1390.

    On this basis, chef Heston Blumenthal has argued that modern cheesecake is an English invention.

    ———

    Arthur: Get out! England has no coconuts, and never has had any coconuts.

    [Arthur belatedly conceals semi-spherical objects in hand.]

    [Sir Bedevere reaches out and raps the side of Arthur’s head with clenched knuckles, which makes a very distinct hollow-coconut sound.]

    Neither man comments on the Ur fermented-coconut cheesecake recipe from 3500 BCE.

    Head cheese is not a dairy cheese, but a terrine or meat jelly often made with flesh from the head of a calf or pig, or less commonly a sheep or cow, or more commonly a meddlesome interloper with a despicable jib; it is often set in aspic as a final insult.

    ———

    In last week’s episode (and the week before): “I eat almost exclusively meat-based meals, but only from non-GMO sources.”

    Apparently, according to Google’s guilt by algorithmic conjunction, it’s the very definition of hypocrisy to eat meat, while rejecting technological mucking around with the genetic girders of A Good Thing.

    The real hypocrisy here is to go around pretending you believe that such fatuous logic can carry water or chop wood.

    ———

    Doomed Ur Jain I: Well, we can’t actually eat stones.

    Doomed Ur Jain II: Harm no living thing!

    Doomed Ur Jain I: It will wreck my teeth!

    Doomed Ur Jain II: Swallow them whole.

    Doomed Ur Jain I: Yuck. I’d rather eat magnets.

    Doomed Ur Jain II: Maggots are people, too!

    Doomed Ur Jain I: No! Magnets, you deaf old coot.

    Doomed Ur Jain II: Oh, magnets! Lucky for you, the Bulk Barn has a special on organic, rare-earth magnets this very week.

    Doomed Ur Jain I: Geomagnetically modified?

    Doomed Ur Jain II: Not in the least! Magnetized with a Tesla coil of thrice acid-washed deoxygenated copper, electrically powered by a waterwheel sunk with stout old-growth timber into a pristine alpine stream.

    Doomed Ur Jain I: Directly powered from this pristine alpine stream? And not just pristine alpine-stream greenwash credits?

    Doomed Ur Jain II: Big fat dedicated power cables, strung from giant steel pylons, along wide, treeless corridors, where even the lowest wildlife knows enough to eschew harmful foraging.

    Doomed Ur Jain I: Well, that’s the great thing about the Bulk Barn. They go the extra mile to attain purity in all things.

    Doomed Ur Jain II: Agreed. But don’t me started on Whole Foods. This week’s flyer has a special on 500 g tubes of Norwegian krill paste.

    Doomed Ur Jain I: Oh, the krillmanity!

    Doomed Ur Jain II: With an average mass of 1 g each, maybe 20% edible without the exoskeleton and digestive tract removed, a twin-pack contains the krill equivalent of the entire population of Vegreville.

    Doomed Ur Jain I: So many tiny souls!

    Doomed Ur Jain II: Harm no living thing!

    Doomed Ur Jain I: Free-range magnets it is, then.

    Doomed Ur Jain II: No, no, no. Organic, rare-earth, but not free-range.

    Doomed Ur Jain I: Oh, is that different? Free-range versus rare-earth?

    Doomed Ur Jain II: [Head droops into double face-palm.] We’re doomed I tell you, doomed; we’re all ethical nincompoops, down to the last nitwit!

  118. OriginalPouzar says:

    I’m also not quite sure why his production as a 20 year old would be compared to another player’s production as a 23 year old.

    Anyways, come on Oilers, lets win this game in regulation – win these next two fro Kass.

  119. OriginalPouzar says:

    VAN would be down 3-0 but a goal was called back on an offside.

  120. Harpers Hair says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I’m also not quite sure why his production as a 20 year old would be compared to another player’s production as a 23 year old.

    Anyways, come on Oilers, lets win this game in regulation – win these next two fro Kass.

    Rafferty scored 24 points in 40 games in his freshman season.

    Phil Kemp scored 8 points in his freshman season.

    Otherwise, they are exactly the same.

  121. drglen says:

    is patrick russell back in this game?

  122. leadfarmer says:

    Please be respectful to others and use the DSF button for DSF posts. That’s why LT made it that way

  123. drglen says:

    oooh… Neel musta been checked last second there.

  124. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nice shift by the Sheahan/P. Russell/Nygard line with the 3rd pairing.

  125. OriginalPouzar says:

    Now VAN is down 3-0 for real.

    PIT up 6-2 on MIN now as well.

  126. OriginalPouzar says:

    So much fun to watch Kailer on the forecheck – a bang on Ekholm to shake a puck loose and another puck turnover caused by his stick – within 4 seconds of each other.

  127. OriginalPouzar says:

    Harpers Hair: Rafferty scored 24 points in 40 games in his freshman season.

    Phil Kemp scored 8 points in his freshman season.

    Otherwise, they are exactly the same.

    The matters exactly zero when one was 23 years old at that time and the other 19.

  128. Ryan says:

    Larsson couldn’t get a shot to the net then couldn’t get the puck deep.

    Not a Larsson fan.

  129. OriginalPouzar says:

    drglen:
    is patrick russell back in this game?

    Yes, Gagner and P. Russell both in – Khaira and Kassian not in.

  130. Harpers Hair says:

    Pittsburgh went 18-4-2 without Crosby in the lineup.

    Sid is back tonight.

    He has 1G and 3A.

    Oh my.

  131. drglen says:

    not much avail so far for either team..

  132. drglen says:

    Nuge with the snipe off th faceoff!!!!!!

  133. OriginalPouzar says:

    Atta boy Nuge – 2nd line strikes again at evens.

    A rocket snap shot quick release off a won draw an assist by Drai!

  134. Ryan says:

    I’m liking that second line.

  135. Lowetide says:

    Nuge scored. A beauty.

  136. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    NUUUUUUGE

  137. drglen says:

    Caleb jones looking good tonight and has been last couple games. . starting to find some confidence.

  138. OriginalPouzar says:

    Skinner gets the start tonight – he’s been very good recently.

    Samorukov back in – great news – I thought the Deharnais recall likely meant bad news – Persson is out who is banged up.

  139. drglen says:

    oh man… lacrosse goal.

  140. OriginalPouzar says:

    Wow, Forsberg, never seen it happen in a game I was watching.

    Smith saw it coming and almost was able to stop it.

  141. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:
  142. OriginalPouzar says:

    Its over – BUF beats VEG in regulation.

    ARI up 1-0 on SJS though.

  143. OriginalPouzar says:

    That was a trip by Nurse?

    I hate having PK d-men in the box.

  144. docweb says:

    Backhand lacrosse no less. Sweet… except it was against us

  145. drglen says:

    the hass gagner chaisson line.. .. not so hot so far in the O zone. I don’t think we’ll see many minutes from them as the game wears on. we’ll see

    Nurse kinda tripped into the trip….. but I don’t think one would dispute the call.

  146. OriginalPouzar says:

    Haas with his first NHL PK time…..

  147. drglen says:

    haas getting on pk time

  148. OilClog says:

    42 games 13g 18a 31pts
    46 games 13g 12a 25pts

    One player is being killed, while the other is a killer if you ever had the joy of catching one of Ms Cleo’s goal post proclamations.

  149. tapper says:

    A toe pick. Therefore a guess. A potentially game-changing guess.

    Not a scoring chance, not a safety issue, nowhere near the crease.

    Curious what happens when an Oilers F goes down along the boards in the O zone.

  150. drglen says:

    Larrson looking quite slow of foot to me tonight… will have to keep and eye on that.

    easy goal for the preds.

  151. OriginalPouzar says:

    Poor communication by Nurse and the forward on the outlet once they got possession and the d-men weren’t able to change – leads to goal against.

  152. flyfish1168 says:

    Poor line change

  153. norm_klassen says:

    Get the big line out play the shit out of them we got time off coming

  154. drglen says:

    Oilers need to develop a bit of hate for the preds. Preds quietly into the lead here without any urgency in the game.

  155. Nit64 says:

    LOWETIDEsays:
    January 14, 2020 at 5:59 pm
    I would appreciate posters following a guideline that delivers only a portion of the piece. I think that’s fair to the writer. As the post has been up for several hours, we’ll let it be, but for future reference, three lines and a link is preferred.

    Really did enjoy that paste from beyond the paywall, but I’m an Oil fan, so I’ve learned not to expect good things to come easy.

  156. OriginalPouzar says:

    Whoa, Iowa scores 53 second in – screened shot from the half wall off the pad and in.

  157. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    Preds got the lead? Pretty sure that’s game right there. Preds just too good against the oilers.

  158. Ryan says:

    Nice jersey tug on Yamamoto.

  159. OriginalPouzar says:

    Yamamoto draws a PP – shocker!

  160. drglen says:

    I’m a bit worried here. If they get another goal and it’s 3-1… ..

    right now, only the second line looks dangerous. Connors line is out of sync and the bottom six so far just carries the puck up ice and gives it away… esp. Haas line. The lack of offensive talent is starting to show tonight against a team that is checking a reasonalbly good zone defense.

    Benson should get a call up imo. But let’s see what happens.

  161. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bouchard with an end to end rush on the PP – to the circles and snaps home the tying goal.

  162. Lowetide says:

    That power-play goal came after an insane sequence. Holy shit

  163. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Yamwise keeping consistent, drawing a PP/game. Handy skill to have.

  164. drglen says:

    DRAISAITLS scores on the third bounce !!!!!

  165. Gerta Rauss says:

    Canada Drai..!

  166. OriginalPouzar says:

    Oilers almost score three on that PP and finally Leon cashes.

    Tie game.

    Great looking PP.

  167. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Atta b’y, Drai!

  168. OriginalPouzar says:

    Solid work by Chiasson in front – all 5 PP men helped on that PP goal.

    Big goal!

  169. Ryan says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Oilers almost score three on that PP and finally Leon cashes.

    Tie game.

    Great looking PP.

    The laziest player in the NHL!

  170. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Been really enjoying the NSH broadcast for those with the will/ability to switch from the Remedial broadcast.

  171. Darth Tu says:

    The Woodguy Winnipeg curse looks to be living on.

  172. OriginalPouzar says:

    flyfish1168:
    Poor line change

    Only because of the poor transition – Oilers had full possession – Nurse miscommunicated with the forward and didn’t get the puck out clean – forwards were changing as they were exhausted – D never got the change, also exhausted.

  173. Reja says:

    Eberle scores his 6th goal tonight my oh my did he sign a sweet contract.

  174. Oz says:

    Watching the game on Redditt’s Bilasport away feed and enjoying the Predator broadcast crew.
    Smith almost stopped that lacrosse style goal, beauty though
    Go Oil

  175. Lowetide says:

    After One:

    2-2 tie
    13-12 Edmonton shots
    16-16 tie Corsi five on five
    ==

    Very even period in my opinion, Oilers gave away the second goal on a vapor lock line change. Dave Tippett gave his angry Dad look.

  176. Harpers Hair says:

    Oz:
    Watching the game on Redditt’s Bilasport away feed and enjoying the Predator broadcast crew.
    Smith almost stopped that lacrosse style goal, beauty though
    Go Oil

    This.

    The Nashville crew is great.

  177. Reja says:

    Harpers Hair:
    The Canucks never win in Winnipeg.

    It’s a thing.

    Who gives a rats ass about your lame weak minded team.

  178. McSorley33 says:

    It is hard to ignore the dramatic change Yamamoto has made.

    We have the looks of a 2nd line.

    Almost instant chemistry with RNH, Drai and Yamamoto

  179. OriginalPouzar says:

    McSorley33:
    It is hard to ignore the dramatic changeYamamoto has made.

    We have the looks of a 2nd line.

    Almost instant chemistry with RNH, Drai and Yamamoto

    What’s the change he’s made in his game? His game seem very similar, at least to me.

    He’s just older, more developed, stronger, experience and, well, NHL ready.

  180. OriginalPouzar says:

    I wish McDavid would get on one of those “shoot-first” mindsets that he gets in to for a few games a couple of times a year.

  181. norm_klassen says:

    I just think McDavid needs a skill winger neal isnt cutting it for me.

  182. jp says:

    I don’t think I like Caleb Jones.

    He scares me.

  183. drglen says:

    Larsson getting beat in those corners…,. he’s not winning those. leads to dangerous sequence and saves by smith.

  184. OriginalPouzar says:

    Damn, Chiasson had Rinne not set there on that rebound from the block – needs to put that on net.

  185. flyfish1168 says:

    2 nice rushes and no shots out of it

  186. drglen says:

    Nurse with multiple turnovers tonight also.

  187. OriginalPouzar says:

    ARI took a 2-0 lead but the Sharks have cut the lead in half.

  188. norm_klassen says:

    Nurse with Lasson now

  189. OriginalPouzar says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I wish McDavid would get on one of those “shoot-first” mindsets that he gets in to for a few games a couple of times a year.

    See, right there, Connor could have let that go from the slot but stickhandled in to danger and lost the puck.

  190. norm_klassen says:

    Klefbom flat footed there

  191. drglen says:

    lack of kassian is noticeable on an ineffective top line. I think Tip has to put TWO new players on this line line tonight. Like Nyggard and Hass. I don’t think the line is going to score tonight as is.

  192. OriginalPouzar says:

    drglen:
    lack of kassian is noticeable on an ineffective top line.I think Tip has to put TWO new players on this line line tonight.Like Nyggard and Hass.I don’t think the line is going to score tonight as is.

    It would behoove Connor to put pucks towards the net instead of trying to dangle and make more “full team plays” – current make up of the line would be better digging for the garbage rebounds – he’s got a good shot, tough for goalies to handle with control.

  193. drglen says:

    looks like hes got MacD with Russel and Chaisson

  194. OriginalPouzar says:

    McDavid and K. Russell with chemistry – maybe McDavid’s perfect winger is already on the team……

  195. norm_klassen says:

    Yami is Tippets swiss army knife

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