2019-20 Game 51: Blues at Oilers

There are two storylines worth following tonight and for the rest of the season. First, the drive to the playoffs. Edmonton has a chance to make it and the tumblers are clicking in a good way currently.

Second, the minors has gifted this year’s team with Ethan Bear, Patrick Russell, Caleb Jones and Kailer Yamamoto. Yesterday, injuries to Kris Russell and Joakim Nygard forced Edmonton to recall William Lagesson and Tyler Benson.

If we add them all up, that makes six Condors from a year ago in Edmonton and on the roster. That’s 26 percent of the NHL roster populated by men who were on last season’s AHL team. Even more impressive, some of these players are filling significant roles with the Oilers. A very good sign for the future. This is the kind of farm system envisioned by every general manager since the ‘shared’ system was put in place for 2005-06. So, a small recovery time of only 14 years. Give or take.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, less than two coffees a month offer here. 

  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘I got a text from Wayne Gretzky that I’ve still got saved’: 8 years later, Sam Gagner reflects on his 8-point night.
  • New Lowetide: What’s next for Tyler Benson and William Lagesson after being called up by the Oilers?
  • New Lowetide:  Breaking down the Oilers’ 50-man list at the trade deadline and the changes expected to come
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘Now it’s over’: With a new contract in hand, Zack Kassian ready to move on after Matthew Tkachuk fight
  • Jonathan Willis: Oilers extend Zack Kassian, betting the power forward can continue to produce with Connor McDavid
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘That’s good for hockey’: Former Oilers weigh in on Battle of Alberta hype ahead of Tkachuk-Kassian meeting
  • Scott Wheeler: Wheeler’s 2020 NHL prospect pool rankings: No. 15 Edmonton Oilers
  • Corey Pronman: Ranking the 2020 NHL Draft top prospects at midseason
  • Lowetide: Why the Oilers are more likely to trade Adam Larsson than Kris Russell
  • Jonathan Willis: PHWA Midseason Awards: Stars, snubs and what they mean for the year-end NHL Awards
  • Lowetide: Is there real trade deadline value in the Edmonton Oilers’ prospect pipeline?
  • Lowetide: ‘Connor McDavid: Whatever It Takes’ works as breaking news, drama and personality profile
  • Lowetide: Oilers prospects Evan Bouchard and Tyler Benson deliver best minor league performances in 20 years
  • Lowetide: What do Connor McDavid’s best lines tell us about his optimal linemates?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: I was an AHL coach for a day: Here’s what I learned
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman and Jonathan Willis: Oilers player poll: From the serious to the silly, the players weigh in on best dressed, most superstitious and more
  • Jonathan Willis: An updated list of which Oilers are most likely to be traded in 2019-20
  • Lowetide: Kailer Yamamoto gives Oilers a midseason spark, one of the best in team history
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Josh Archibald, Riley Sheahan show the upward trend of Ken Holland’s offseason moves for the Oilers
  • Lowetide: Post-Christmas performance spike has Evan Bouchard pushing for an NHL job with the Oilers
  • Jonathan Willis: The Oilers’ road forward — and perhaps to a Stanley Cup — requires trusting the kids on defence
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Deciding what to do with Darnell Nurse, Mike Smith, Tyler Benson and Evan Bouchard
  • LowetideKen Holland’s targets for his first trade deadline with the Oilers.
  • Lowetide: Ken Holland’s trade deadline options for the Oilers
  • Lowetide: Complete Oilers top 20 prospects list, winter 2019

OILERS AFTER 51 GAMES

  • Oilers in 2015-16: 20-26-5, 45 points; goal differential -22
  • Oilers in 2016-17: 28-15-8, 64 points; goal differential +17
  • Oilers in 2017-18: 23-24-4, 50 points; goal differential -26
  • Oilers in 2018-19: 23-24-4, 50 points; goal differential -14
  • Oilers in 2019-20: 26-18-6, 58 points; goal differential +1

This year’s Oilers have settled in to a unique area compared to the previous four teams. Clearly still in the race, but without the handsome goal differential of the 2016-17 team. If the Oilers were to grab a point per game now through the end of the season, a quiet run to be sure, the final point total would be 90. It’s been a good season compared to the past.

ON THE TENS

  • First 10 games: 7-2-1
  • Second 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Third 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Fourth 10 games: 3-6-1
  • Fifth 10 games: 6-2-2
  • Current 10 games: 0-0-0

Edmonton needs to tear off another six or seven win run here in the next few weeks. Puts them in a good spot at the deadline and allows some breathing room for post-deadline craziness.

OILERS IN JANUARY

  • Oilers in January 2016: 4-3-2, 10 points; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in January 2017: 6-3-0, 12 points; goal differential +1
  • Oilers in January 2018: 4-5-0, eight points; goal differential -13
  • Oilers in January 2019: 5-4-0, 10 points; goal differential -3
  • Oilers in January 2020: 5-1-2, 12 points; goal differential +7

It’s the final game of the month and this year’s group owns the goal differential. A point tonight also gives them the point edge over teams of yester-me, yester-you, yesterday.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN JANUARY

  • On the road to: BUF, BOS, TOR, MTL, CAL (Expected 2-2-1) (Actual 3-1-1)
  • At home to: NAS, ARI, CAL, STL (Expected 1-2-1) (2-0-1)
  • Overall expected result: 3-4-2, eight points in nine games
  • Current results: 5-1-2, 12 points in eight games

Absolutely smoked my prediction, left me stranded on the lost highway. I’ve looked at February. There are 14 games. That’s all I have to say until tomorrow.

2019-20 EDMONTON OILERS

Since Yamamoto arrived in time for the December 31 game, the Neal-McDavid-Kassian line has played 83:13, has a 53.38 percent Corsi for (all numbers five on five), 57.30 percent shot differential and has outscored opponents 4-3.

The Nuge-Draisaitl-Yamamoto line has played 102:01 together, going 48.56 Corsi, 51.85 shot differential and 8-2 goals.

This puzzle is starting to come together.

Benson’s arrival may allow for more pieces to fit. Can’t wait to see where they place him. My guess is he and Lagesson won’t dress tonight and that Gaetan Haas and Caleb Jones draw in for the injured Joakim Nygard and the concussed Kris Russell.

BOB MCKENZIE’S LIST

The McKenzie list is out! That’s always a good thing. It gives us an idea about the top of the draft. Here’s BM’s top 10 and mine side by side.

The top two picks match, and in fact the first eight names are identical, with a lot of order shuffle. There’s no way Edmonton has a chance at any of these players unless they falter in the second half. Oilers currently draft No. 16, but when the games in hand are factored in, more like No. 20. Here’s 11-20:

The Oilers will be drafting near the end of this group in my opinion. Although I don’t have him in my top 20 (No. 22), Jack Quinn is a player who is both worthy of selection in this range and an ideal solution for Edmonton’s needs.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

It’s Friday and Super Bowl weekend, so this will be a fun show. TSN1260 at 10 this morning. At 10:20, Reid Fowler from Draft Kings will talk Chiefs and 49ers. Matt Iwanyk will touch base at 11, we’ll talk Super Bowl and Oilers-Blues. You can text 10-1260 with opinions, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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  1. defmn says:

    Bob Stauffer
    @Bob_Stauffer
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    2m
    James Neal is not on the ice for pre-game warm-up

  2. OriginalPouzar says:

    Rorigue stops 35 of 37 in a 4-2 win.

    Lavoie with a first period assist and 3 shots – so far.

    Graham McPhee has himself a 2nd period goal – do they sign this guy? I doubt it.

    Puljujarvi with 3 assists today which I think takes him to PPG and near the top of league scoring – given his “fancies”, there is a strong argument he’s been the leagues best player – impressive at 21.

  3. OriginalPouzar says:

    No Neal tonight:

    Archibald-McDavid-Kassian

    RNH-Draisaitl-Yamamoto

    Khaira-Sheahan-Russell

    Gagner-Haas-Chiasson

    Nurse-Bear

    Klefbom-Larsson

    Jones-Benning

    No confirmation on Mikko starting yet.

  4. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    I wonder if Holland has his eye on a Neal trade for the summer?

  5. meanashell11 says:

    I’m just down here hanging out. I can work from anywhere so earlier this weekI drove down from Greenwich. i do come down here quite a bit, so it is kind of a second home.

  6. OriginalPouzar says:

    Mikko confirmed starter.

  7. Bulging Twine says:

    We get more info on McDavid with Archibald. Get that sample size larger.

  8. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lower body issue for James Neal.

  9. drglen says:

    neal out? All the more reason to activate Benson.

  10. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Fair, but as far as skating goes, Bear ≠ Fayne.

  11. dessert1111 says:

    that’s a pretty crazy lack of natural LWers in the lineup

    I don’t think Benson should have trouble drawing in tomorrow

  12. OilClog says:

    I may or may not of given Neal some ultimatums so Archi and Kass could wing together for a night.

  13. pts2pndr says:

    Is it registered

  14. jp says:

    Draisaitl!!!

    Scoring leader!!

  15. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Famous reminder of Dougy Weight, #39.

  16. Lowetide says:

    Leon scored.

  17. drglen says:

    1 zip already YAY drei

  18. OilClog says:

    Soft

  19. drglen says:

    JOnes.. shot gets through. Pour it on BOYS

  20. jp says:

    Damn, nice start!

  21. OilClog says:

    Wooooooooooo

  22. drglen says:

    good stick Bear

  23. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Buyouts are a TERRIBLE use of cap space.

    I have faith Holland can upgrade this pencil he got for a paperclip and get us a calculator or something.

  24. Bulging Twine says:

    McDavidov on fire so far

  25. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Another prescient prediction.

    What do you know that the rest of us don’t?

  26. maudite says:

    I think it was smitty that had this greasy elbow up move when he was getting run or worked by like derian Hatcher…I’d be running to footage archive and teaching the boys how that worked. Often inconspicuous enough you had to watch replay to see how good he tagged people.

    I used to call it the porcupine.

  27. drglen says:

    dangerous PP

  28. Reja says:

    dessert1111:
    that’s a pretty crazy lack of natural LWers in the lineup

    I don’t think Benson should have trouble drawing in tomorrow

    You think?

  29. Halfwise says:

    No denying the Draisaitl McDeity chemistry. Two dangerous opportunities.

  30. Klima's_Bucket says:

    That penalty by Nurse is exactly the type of thing he’ll learn to avoid by the time he hits 300 games.

  31. Reja says:

    jp:
    Draisaitl!!!

    Scoring leader!!

    Leon. Leon. He’s are man if he can’t do it no one can.

  32. jp says:

    Nice stuff by Samwise the last couple.

    Chiasson has been good too.

  33. Lowetide says:

    Jujhar isn’t helping himself.

  34. OilClog says:

    Oilers are on the side screen tonight, Lakers are the main event. Having seen Kobe a handful of times in Seattle and Portland, being a couple years younger then him, this has been the blurriest of weeks for someone I’ve never even met.

  35. jp says:

    Nice on Archibald to get a nice tip on that. Close.

    Lots of game to go but what a great 1st period! Tough to ask for more.

  36. OriginalPouzar says:

    Even from an airplane I could see they dominated the champs in that period.

    Great stuff.

  37. Halfwise says:

    FYI if anyone is looking for a stream I am watching on bilasport.net.

    I had been recommending nhl66.ir but bilasport is even less buggy than nhl66.

  38. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    The boys are rippin!

  39. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    Lowetide:
    Jujhar isn’t helping himself.

    No he isn’t. Not good to move the puck backward when you are that close to getting it out of your own zone.

  40. OriginalPouzar says:

    No surprise but player of the week, Stuart Skinner, starts tonight – Marody and Persson both still out.

  41. Dustylegnd says:

    Drai in beast mode looks anything but tired …. love it … 1st line no impact but we are winning …. imagine Mcdaddy with two too 6 forwards ???

  42. Reja says:

    Oilers still have the BOA intensity Blues not so much, best period of the decade. It’s such a pleasure to listen to the away feed instead of that weirdo Remanda. The Howitzer by Leon was worth the price of admission.

  43. Lowetide says:

    After One:

    2-0 Edmonton
    13-3 Edmonton shots
    30-8 Edmonton Corsi five on five
    ==

    Blues will be beating their plowshares into swords during the intermission.

  44. leadfarmer says:

    You can see why I’ve been calling Yamamoto Little Arvidsson the guy never gives up on a play and goes to the net like a guy twice his size

  45. who says:

    Hoping to watch on laptop.
    Anyone got a stream that is working?

  46. dessert1111 says:

    fairy-tale opening period for Edmonton.

    Khaira made a no look backhand pass in the defensive zone which he seems to do multiple times a game lately.

  47. dessert1111 says:

    Lowetide,

    I can’t remember seeing a Corsi line like that after one period for the Oilers before, wow

  48. jp says:

    Lowetide:
    After One:

    2-0 Edmonton
    13-3 Edmonton shots
    30-8 Edmonton Corsi five on five
    ==

    Blues will be beating their plowshares into swords during the intermission.

    Yeah we should savour those numbers.

    Hopefully the Oilers do not.

  49. Oz says:

    I’m watching on https://live-nhl.stream/watch/st-louis-blues-live-free.html and it is miserable. Small screen, and guess have not fulfilled all their hoops. If you figure it out let me know.
    By the way that was the best hockey I have seen the Oilers play this year. Yammamoto is killing it and I thought he needed the rest of the year in the AHL ?

  50. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    I don’t want to get my hopes too high, but if the Bake can keep producing cake like this to improve the lineup and Oilers performance…oh my.
    Bear has been such a revelation this year. So calm and effective for rookie. A very excellent skill set to complement Nurse’s skills (and weaknesses).
    KY is adding such a dynamic presence to energize and synergize the second line, can he and they keep this up?
    Jones, we new he had it last year but seems to be ironing out some wrinkles from earlier this year.

    Impressive.
    Could Benson bring another (unexpected) boost to the team performance?!?!
    And next year – Bouchard?

    Developing and fine-tuning skills in the A to increase the likelihood these guys can make an impact when they get called up AND increasing the potential for the NHL careers.

    What a concept.

  51. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Onhockey.tv usually has plenty

  52. Rebillled says:

    great back check

  53. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Darren Pang on the colour commentary for STL if anyone was considering switching feeds.

  54. kgo says:

    Nurse gets 2 for channeling 2002 Jason Smith

  55. jp says:

    leadfarmer:
    You can see why I’ve been calling Yamamoto Little Arvidsson the guy never gives up on a play and goes to the net like a guy twice his size

    He’s a really wonderful player.

    Hopefully he can keep it up (it’s still hard to believe he’ll remain at this level).

  56. who says:

    Oz:
    I’m watching on https://live-nhl.stream/watch/st-louis-blues-live-free.html and it is miserable. Small screen, and guess have not fulfilled all their hoops. If you figure it out let me know.
    By the way that was the best hockey I have seen the Oilers play this year. Yammamoto is killing it and I thought he needed the rest of the year in the AHL

    Think that is what I’m on and it seems to be working.
    Watching on a computer screen sucks though.

  57. flyfish1168 says:

    I believe the refs forgot what a interference looks like

  58. leadfarmer says:

    Larsson showing why if you are thinking playoffs you don’t move him this year

  59. Dustylegnd says:

    God Dam Jimmy … we would have been satisfied with free dried tasters choice … and Adam Larsson decides he is going to fuck people up …. love it

  60. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Bilasport.net and nhl66.ir have no ads and both home/away feeds.

  61. kgo says:

    Koski channelling 1995 Ranford

  62. Dustylegnd says:

    Man major response from Oilers who did not play well last game …. I bloody lovecit

  63. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    That hit on Bozak was a thing of beauty.

  64. leadfarmer says:

    jp: He’s a really wonderful player.

    Hopefully he can keep it up (it’s still hard to believe he’ll remain at this level).

    Well hes on a line that’s a legitimate first line on multiple nhl teams. So quite the opportunity he’s getting

  65. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    I think Larsson is saying he wants back on regular PK shifts

  66. leadfarmer says:

    I don’t complain about reffing often but how do you let this go

  67. Halfwise says:

    Come on boys. The Blues have finally showed up, at the half way point of the game.

  68. Rebillled says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey,

    haha thanks!

  69. Reja says:

    Reja:
    We need to get on the Blues early get up a couple and then ride it out if we’re going to make the playoffs 5 out 6 points in the next 3 is vital.

    Leon scores 5 minutes into the 3rd and we barely hang on.

  70. Lowetide says:

    After Two:

    2-1 Edmonton (1-0 St. Louis in the second)
    21-17 Edmonton shots (14-8 St. Louis in the second)
    46-34 Edmonton Corsi five on five (26-16 St. Louis in the second)

    ==

    Oilers spent most of that period chasing, Blues are a disastrous team to be playing the night before a Flames game.

  71. Derek says:

    I think poor Adam had a stroke in the middle of this interview, just let him go Gene.

  72. Oz says:

    Borninagretkzyjersey thanks for the tip on bilasport

  73. OriginalPouzar says:

    Esposito from Cave and Maksimov as the Condors are tied at 1 after the first.

  74. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lavoie tied the game up today with 4 seconds left – finished with 1 and 1 and 5 shots on net.

  75. leadfarmer says:

    We’re playing St. Louis’game now

  76. leadfarmer says:

    And there it is

  77. norm_klassen says:

    St Louis got there big boy pants on now.

  78. leadfarmer says:

    Man what I would do to have Thomas as my 3rd line center

  79. Bulging Twine says:

    Was Thomas on Clockwork Orange

  80. leadfarmer says:

    We can’t beat them playing whackapuck
    No one can beat them playing whackapuck

  81. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    🙂

    They’ve got a good crew. Wanted others to have a chance to tune in, glad it helped!

  82. Paulie says:

    Fuck yay!

  83. Halfwise says:

    29 for 29

  84. Bulging Twine says:

    wow skill

  85. leadfarmer says:

    I still can’t believe how many guys were down on Yamamoto in the offseason

  86. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Prescient!

  87. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Reja: Leon scores 5 minutes into the 3rd and we barely hang on.

    Ummmm yeah…

    I’m gonna need you to go ahead and buy me a lotto ticket.

    Thanks.

  88. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    No sweat!

    Others have also suggested it.

    I’m using caststreams myself. Find it’s even better but only if you’re on Android.

  89. Leroy Draisdale says:

    Random thought,,,,,if Dave Tippet was a cartoon he’d be Droopy Dog

  90. Bulging Twine says:

    You could make a 45 second video of just Perron holding Oilers sticks

  91. Paulie says:

    Blues push is coming. Hang on….

  92. Johnny skid says:

    Bulging Twine:
    Was Thomas on Clockwork Orange

    Yes

  93. GMB3 says:

    Everyone who said KY was a bust or was too small to play in the NHL better be feeling some shame

  94. Richard Roma says:

    leadfarmer:
    I still can’t believe how many guys were down on Yamamoto in the offseason

    He’s a little buzz saw.

  95. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    As good as the Drai line has been, the McD line has not. Gotta get McD some real support on that line. Kassian is only good as the the third best player on the line, not good as the 2nd.

  96. dessert1111 says:

    I thought in his NHL games the last two seasons Yamamoto looked pretty good but couldn’t produce.

    I’ve tempered my expectations a bit since he hasn’t been producing as much as I expected in the AHL.

    It’s been 10 games and he looks like a veteran pro out there. Strong in pretty much all facets and has some high end skills like puck retrieval.

    So far, pretty much best case scenario.

  97. BillyTheKidRanford says:

    godot10,

    Ring ring ring…..
    (Godot10) Hello….
    DEADHORSE…. Hey bud it’s me, you know the DEAD HORSE you’ve been beating…. Just wondering if you could give it a break for a bit, maybe write some new material?
    Godot… Did you know that because of Kassian not beating Gio up…
    DEADHORSE…. Buddy just breath, did you hear marijuana is legal in Alberta now, maybe you could chill and STOP BEATING ME EVERYDAY, WAY TOOOO OFTEN!!

  98. Rebillled says:

    Nice work Moto vs Pangelo

  99. Richard Roma says:

    Bulging Twine:
    Was Thomas on Clockwork Orange

    The general rule of thumb is to never trust someone with two first names.

  100. Paulie says:

    Nurse gets his points but boy he makes some questionable offensive decisions

  101. Paulie says:

    Chiasson doin his Nurse impression

  102. rickithebear says:

    Paulie:
    Nurse gets his points but boy he makes some questionable offensive decisions

    See Rover Hockey theory!

  103. Richard Roma says:

    Paulie:
    Nurse gets his points but boy he makes some questionable offensive decisions

    Don’t worry, he’ll get paid.

    Uncle Kenny gets players paychecks.

  104. dessert1111 says:

    I don’t mind Kassian or Archibald up there but not both of them.

    Need more skill.

  105. rickithebear says:

    Nice to see the leagues Best evga/60 dman is back!
    But we are missing his #1 evga/60 Dpartner.

    Why can’t we have our 3 cup core roster Dmen at the same time with this coach.

  106. Richard Roma says:

    Oilers under 4 minutes left.

    Don’t f this up.

  107. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    Seriously???

    Sphincter tightening time…

  108. Paulie says:

    I swear Yamo drives to blue paint more than Lucic ever did

  109. leadfarmer says:

    GMB3:
    Everyone who said KY was a bust or was too small to play in the NHL better be feeling some shame

    Quite possibly the “heaviest” team in the league and he’s shining in the game

  110. Richard Roma says:

    Archibald!

  111. Paulie says:

    FUCK YAY!!

  112. leadfarmer says:

    Reja: Leon scores 5 minutes into the 3rd and we barely hang on.

    What sort of sorcery is this

  113. Rebillled says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey,

    good luck feed change!

  114. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Ohhhhh Archie.

  115. Side says:

    ‘Disastrous Oilers draft pick with bird bones who is too small and will never be in the NHL’ Kailer Yamamoto had another terrific game.

  116. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    I like that at least twice I saw him finish his checks against Bouwmeester along the boards. And also get flattened by Steen, but point is he can play a man’s game against the best of ’em.

  117. Richard Roma says:

    From the athletic, Allan had one thing wrong.

    Goalies aren’t voodoo.

    Goalies are just crazy.

    You let dudes riffle frozen pucks at you, you crazy.

    Plain and simple.

  118. Bulging Twine says:

    Koskinen was a wall there

  119. Paulie says:

    Koski had a strong game after playing once in the past 3 years. Important development.

  120. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Such a good feeling!

  121. Gerta Rauss says:

    That’s a strong win, didn’t see that coming prior to puck drop

    Nice to get Mikko back on the horse, I thought he played well

  122. OriginalPouzar says:

    Big two points and a regulation win.

    Massive points.

  123. russ99 says:

    That was a fantastic period. We play like that, the Flames are toast, fluky goals or not.

  124. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Reja,

    You’re on a roll with the predictions.

    Might be time to change your name to “Oracle.”

  125. OriginalPouzar says:

    Richard Roma: He’s a little buzz saw.

    A pisscutter – both he and Archie.

  126. who says:

    Paulie:
    Koski had a strong game after playing once in the past 3 years. Important development.

    I know we will see Smith tomorrow but I really hope this convinces Tippett that Koskinen is #1.
    Koskinen needs to start 2/3 of the games down the stretch.

  127. OriginalPouzar says:

    rickithebear:
    Nice to see the leagues Best evga/60 dman is back!
    But we are missing his #1 evga/60 Dpartner.

    Why can’t we have our 3 cup core roster Dmen at the same time with this coach.

    What did you think about his rover play last game that cost a big goal against?

  128. Yegfoundation says:

    Benson in for Russell tomorrow evening.

    Am I wrong in wishing that it was Colby Cave instead of Benson going in tomorrow versus the flames?

  129. Oz says:

    Koski has had plenty of rest, I would put him back in against the Flames

  130. OriginalPouzar says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    I like that at least twice I saw him finish his checks against Bouwmeester along the boards.And also get flattened by Steen, but point is he can play a man’s game against the best of ’em.

    My question is durability playing that way – I’d have that question if he was a regular sized player as well.

  131. OriginalPouzar says:

    Yes.

  132. Paulie says:

    Did anyone miss Russell

  133. who says:

    OriginalPouzar: A pisscutter – both he and Archie.

    Not too sure about the Archie part.
    I don’t think he has the hands or offensive brain to play with McDavid. Would prefer Gagner in that spot.

  134. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    Having an effective “top 6” (2 forward lines that consistently present an offensive threat) is critical to the success of this team.

    Solid game all around. I would give at least passing grades to just about all of them, except unfortunately JJ continues to struggle.

    If Neal is out tomorrow as well, It would be cool to see Benson with at least a few shifts on L1?

  135. Yegfoundation says:

    Tomorrow evening feels like it could be a nasty game where a 10 year pro veteran who has been through all the battles would have value.

  136. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    In jiu-jitsu we had a saying, “position before submission.”

    So, if he doesn’t go out of his way to make a big hit and put himself in a vulnerable spot, he should be fine. My guess is slashes to the hands/wrists will be one of his biggest threats. Although shoulders or neck can be susceptible if hit from behind often/hard enough.

  137. OriginalPouzar says:

    We have different definitions of pisscutter.

  138. pts2pndr says:

    If you are taught the correct way there is no need to break your hand. The opponent may have to have medical attention. Just saying. Some of what you watch may not be as you see it. # taught to disable

  139. JimmyV1965 says:

    The biggest win of the season. Wow!!! The first three games coming off break was a brutal stretch and they’ve got three of four points so far. Amazing. Come on Holland, get a winger for McDavid and this team can do some damage.

  140. OriginalPouzar says:

    Yegfoundation:
    Tomorrow evening feels like it could be a nasty game where a 10 year pro veteran who has been through all the battles would have value.

    I’ll take the more skilled and talented player who is also not shy to engage and not a shrinking violet over the 10 year pro who has proven in that decade to be a career AHLer – teeener at best.

  141. Material Elvis says:

    Ricki.

  142. Richard Roma says:

    Just caught a quote from denialist Giordano,

    Giordano is a piece of shit modern day Marchment.

    Let’s hope that old dude retires before he destroys any more knees.

  143. Material Elvis says:

    Great game by the team. Khaira and P.Russell are non-factors. I’d get Benson in on the McDavid line, put Archie down with Sheahan and sit Khaira or Russell.

  144. Bulging Twine says:

    Horrific defensive play by Faulk on Draisatl’s 2nd goal.

  145. Yegfoundation says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    I’m going to assume Benson would be comparatively inexperienced in dealing with sneaky dirty pro’s like Gio/Tcachuk/Lucic/Rinaldo.

    Cave would know how to play that game real well.

    I hope Benson has a fantastic game tomorrow evening and i’m excited to watch him play.

    I’d take Cave over Benson, for tomorrow evenings Flames match-up, if given the choice.

  146. flyfish1168 says:

    Richard Roma,

    He is plain and simple a dirty player. It’s unfortunate the player safety guy Parros is to stupid to realize the game has evolved and he has not caught up with it yet.

  147. OriginalPouzar says:

    Let’s get Archie resigned to 2 years at a nominal raise.

  148. Oz says:

    Just tuned in to the Condors game, hoping to see McLeod have a great period

  149. Material Elvis says:

    Side:
    ‘Disastrous Oilers draft pick with bird bones who is too small and will never be in the NHL’ Kailer Yamamoto had another terrific game.

    Solid game.That nickname has a nice ring to it.

  150. Material Elvis says:

    Derek:
    I think poor Adam had a stroke in the middle of this interview, just let him go Gene.

    Larsson is the master of the deadpan interview technique.

  151. Reja says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    Reja,

    You’re on a roll with the predictions.

    Might be time to change your name to “Oracle.”

    Every time Leon the Maschine scores and shuts up the fair-weather fans a Angel gets its wings.

  152. OriginalPouzar says:

    Neal is doubtful for tomorrow with his foot.

    Paging: Tyler Benson.

  153. OriginalPouzar says:

    Yegfoundation:
    OriginalPouzar,

    I’m going to assume Benson would be comparatively inexperienced in dealing with sneaky dirty pro’s like Gio/Tcachuk/Lucic/Rinaldo.

    Cave would know how to play that game real well.

    I hope Benson has a fantastic game tomorrow evening and i’m excited to watch him play.

    I’d take Cave over Benson, for tomorrow evenings Flames match-up, if given the choice.

    I’ll disagree. I know what Cave brings.

    Teams that have the likes of Colby Cave in their lineup are not NHL playoff teams, in my opinion.

    Colby Cave plays NHL games down the stretch for non playoff teams that have “sold” at the deadline and are shutting down injured NHL player.

    In my opinion.

  154. OilClog says:

    If the Gords have any mercy Colby Cave will never suit up for the Oilers again unless he has a summer of TB12 and returns a 6’4 5 star quarterback. Then ok maybe, let’s humor it.

  155. pts2pndr says:

    You and I have been simpatico on most of your posts. I wish we could discuss this at length because I believe in Kassian! On this one thing I will say with all sincerity that this is not a mountain to die on. Kassian is a good news story! He exemplifies what can be done when someone perseveres. In my opinion this is a man that is a hero! I can not understand how you can be so harsh on someone who has turned his life around.
    # from a friend

  156. Victoria Oil says:

    I don’t think much of a raise, if any, is required. A two year, one way contract and the job security that comes with it should be sufficient for a player like Archibald at this stage of his career.

  157. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    Material Elvis: Larsson is the master of the deadpan interview technique.

    I was worried he might faint.

  158. pts2pndr says:

    Good on Yamamoto! In junior his skills allowed him to excel. His IQ allowed him to figure out how to excel in the NHL. While I had my droughts, I always cheered for him. He has been a welcome addition!

  159. geowal says:

    Material Elvis: Larsson is the master of the deadpan interview technique.

    He’s also never afraid of Hunter.

  160. Oz says:

    Well Mcleod did not see much ice time in the third, but I firmly believe Woodcroft does not see as much value as i do ? Seriously this is the forward that I see that has the most potential, fast, strong defensively, will go to the dirty areas, but I admit does not have scoring touch I would like to see, and that is something you have or do not have. Is it linemates or is it not there?
    Please consider the source, this from from a Pickleball player ??

  161. Oz says:

    OP your thoughts ?

  162. Leroy Draisdale says:

    I can confirm this is true

  163. Ice Sage says:

    Bulging Twine:
    Horrific defensive play by Faulk on Draisatl’s 2nd goal.

    Lots of D (and casual observers) have been fooled by Drai’s straight-line acceleration

  164. OriginalPouzar says:

    Oz:
    OP your thoughts ?

    On McLeod tonight or in general?

    Didn’t see the Condors game tonight as I’m travelling and on a plane currently but can provide general thoughts from my viewings over the season.

  165. Bulging Twine says:

    Gambardella moves up to take Benson’s spot alongside Granlund and Currie and gets a goal and an assist

  166. Bulging Twine says:

    Ice Sage: Lots of D (and casual observers) have been fooled by Drai’s straight-line acceleration

    Big guys hey? They may be going faster than they look as they take those long powerful strides.

    Faulk inexplicably came across the ice to double cover Yamamoto when he was clearly Pietrangelo’s guy. Yamamoto smartly saw that he was leaving Leon and sent the sweet pass over to Leon who barried it. PeeWee hockey.

  167. linkfromhyrule says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Neal is doubtful for tomorrow with his foot.

    Paging: Tyler Benson.

    I would never say an injury to any of our players is a good thing, but it’s fortunate in a way that these injuries have forced the Org’s hand.

    It gives several players an opportunity. Here’s hoping they run with it. It will benefit Ken Holland to have a better idea about what the up and comers are capable of.

    Can they manage without KR?

    Can Benson, Lagesson, Jones fill roles for cheap?

    Hopefully he will be watching closely and this will inform the off-season plan.

    That second line is honestly the key to the playoffs. Yamo is belonging, and then some!

  168. Reja says:

    If J.J doesn’t step up to the plate tomorrow I hope Holland packages him with D or draft choice to acquire someone with more gumption that can put the pill in the net.

  169. Reja says:

    Oz:
    Well Mcleod did not see much ice time in the third, but I firmly believe Woodcroft does notsee as much valueas i do ?Seriously this is the forward that I see that has the most potential, fast, strong defensively, will go to the dirty areas, but I admit does not have scoring touch I would like to see, and that is something you have or do not have. Is it linemates or is it not there?
    Please consider the source, this from from a Pickleball player ??

    Paging Todd Marchant.

  170. rickithebear says:

    OriginalPouzar: What did you think about his rover play last game that cost a big goal against?

    First game back?

    I will have to watch the video.

    You know my answer to any play like that.

    Low% +ve goal diff hockey is fucking stupid!

    +ve goal diff human machine mechanics.

    That is what all my theories are about.

    The video, SOE, and +ve & -ve goal diff% tell me what to write.

    OP:

    You remember my false eye affect theory.
    Most fans use a small number of memorable plays to define a player rather than a per 25 or 250 shift rate for forwards and a per 30 or 300 shift rate per Dmen.

    IF you can find a 3rd Dpair that crushes even play at evga/60.
    It iallows the other 2 Dpair to have a larger level of evga/60 and still be competative.

  171. Yegfoundation says:

    OriginalPouzar: I’ll disagree.I know what Cave brings.

    Teams that have the likes of Colby Cave in their lineup are not NHL playoff teams, in my opinion.

    Colby Cave plays NHL games down the stretch for non playoff teams that have “sold” at the deadline and are shutting down injured NHL player.

    In my opinion.

    Thanks! And, you may very well be correct. I hope the Oilers come out Ok tomorrow evening. Cave may not be the answer but I’d like a couple more crafty vets for this game.

  172. Reja says:

    If I’m Tippett I come right back with Kosh he had relatively light work load and let Smith go at his old team in the Desert. If we can win these 2 we’re on our way.

  173. godot10 says:

    linkfromhyrule:
    Can they manage without KR?

    A couple more games from Jones and Benning like this one, and Kris Russell becomes the pressbox defensemen.

    Benning is an upper tier, arguably elite 3rd pairing D. He made it far easier for Jones because he plays a “normal” game, unlike Russell who is an irregular.

  174. godot10 says:

    OriginalPouzar: What did you think about his rover play last game that cost a big goal against?

    One might be able to blame it on the concussion. Which is maybe why they put him on IR.

    It was sort of bizarre seeing Russell go walkabout.

  175. rickithebear says:

    Did my usual mid season 68% std deviation check.
    (Ev min) – ( No. Dpairs)
    – 1 std Dev spring evga/60/ median Dpair evga/60/ + 1 std depressed.

    I choose 17 min to start cause that is Benning – Jones Pr total.

    (17 min) (615)
    98th Pr 1.11 / 307th Pr 2.51 / 515th Pr 4.32

    (38 min) (439)
    71 Pr 1.41 / 220 Pr 2.57 / 369 Pr 3.83

    (58.5 min) (346)
    56th Pr 1.61 / 173rd Pr 2.53 / 290th Pr 3.58

    (80 min) (278)
    45 Pr 1.68 / 139 Pr 2.56 / 233 Pr 3.56

    (100 min) (240 Pr)
    38 Pr 1.68 / 120 Pr 2.51 / 202 Pr 3.51

    (125 min) (197 Pr)
    31st Pr 1.77 / 98th Pr 2.48 / 144 th Pr 3.32

    At this pt I am comfortable with all approx. 60 min prs

    Russell – Benning 172:25 0.70 evga/60
    Manning – Benning 72:52 0.82 evga/60
    Klefbom – Bear 105:49 1.13 evga/60
    Klefbom – Russell 159:43 1.50 evga/60
    Russell – Larsson 94:43 1.90 evga/60
    Nurse – Russell 59:43 2.02 evga/60
    Russel – Jones 172:04 2.09 evga/60
    ————————————————— 5 of 7 Dpairs better than 2.53 have Russell a DEFENCEman.
    Klefbom – Larsson 2.80 evga/60
    Klefbom – Did my usual mid season 68% std deviation check.
    (Ev min) – ( No. Dpairs)
    – 1 std Dev spring evga/60/ median Dpair evga/60/ + 1 std depressed.

    I choose 17 min to start cause that is Benning – Jones Pr total.

    (17 min) (615)
    98th Pr 1.11 / 307th Pr 2.51 / 515th Pr 4.32

    (38 min) (439)
    71 Pr 1.41 / 220 Pr 2.57 / 369 Pr 3.83

    (58.5 min) (346)
    56th Pr 1.61 / 173rd Pr 2.53 / 290th Pr 3.58

    (80 min) (278)
    45 Pr 1.68 / 139 Pr 2.56 / 233 Pr 3.56

    (100 min) (240 Pr)
    38 Pr 1.68 / 120 Pr 2.51 / 202 Pr 3.51

    (125 min) (197 Pr)
    31st Pr 1.77 / 98th Pr 2.48 / 144 th Pr 3.32

    At this pt I am comfortable with all approx. 60 min prs

    Russell – Benning 172:25 0.70 evga/60
    Manning – Benning 72:52 0.82 evga/60
    Klefbom – Bear 105:49 1.13 evga/60
    Klefbom – Russell 159:43 1.50 evga/60
    ————————————————- Better than 1 +ve std dev. 1.60
    Russell – Larsson 94:43 1.90 evga/60
    Nurse – Russell 59:43 2.02 evga/60
    Russel – Jones 172:04 2.09 evga/60
    ————————————————— 5 of 7 Dpairs better than 2.53 have Russell a DEFENCEman.
    Klefbom – Larsson 342:24 2.80 evga/60
    Klefbom – Persson 163:13 2.94 evga/60
    Nurse – Bear 819:54 3.51 evga/60
    ———————————————— greater than 1 – ve STD dev 3.58
    Klefbom – Jones 112:04 4.28 evga/60

    3 of 4 bellow median prs have Klefbom.

    Dpairs with greater than 125 min together
    Nurse and bear are worse than 1 – ve std deviation
    Brutal!
    Boat Anchor!
    Rover Hell!

    Godot!
    PB Russell.

    That is embarrassing buddy!
    Defencemen play defence and try to prevent shots that have a chance of going in.
    Not just prevent shots but keeping them at distance were the ones that get thru are not scoreable.

    Then they try to get it on the blade of 310 forwards much better at scoring evg than almost all the rovers and Dmen.

  176. Turning Tikkanese says:

    If Leon plays like this tomorrow, I’m thinking there won’t be too many “dry saddles” in the Calgary dressing room..

    That one is so bad I think I need a shower.

  177. GMB3 says:

    Can someone who is old enough to remember tell me why the Edmonton Oilers drafted a prep school hockey player by the name of Ed Caron 52nd overall instead of a guy with 1.6 points per game in the OHL by the name of Jason Pominville?

    Jesus. It’s like they weren’t even trying.

  178. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    GMB3:
    Can someone who is old enough to remember tell me why the Edmonton Oilers drafted a prep school hockey player by the name of Ed Caron 52nd overall instead of a guy with 1.6 points per game in the OHL by the name of Jason Pominville?

    Jesus. It’s like they weren’t even trying.

    Ed Carron – 6’2″ 230lbs

    Jason Pomminville – 5’11” 180lbs – from QMJHL

    Same reason all the teams passed on Mangiapane 5 times (some 6) despite him scoring 1.53 pts/gm in the OHL.

  179. OriginalPouzar says:

    I assumeTip doesn’t go to Miikko in back to back with travel but we’ll see.

    I know most want JJ sat for Benny but I think I’d take Russell out.

    A Russelll-less lineup perhaps?

  180. Lowetide says:

    GMB3:
    Can someone who is old enough to remember tell me why the Edmonton Oilers drafted a prep school hockey player by the name of Ed Caron 52nd overall instead of a guy with 1.6 points per game in the OHL by the name of Jason Pominville?

    Jesus. It’s like they weren’t even trying.

    As WG says, size. Caron was one of several ‘Coke Machine’ selections during that era. He was kind of fun to track as a prospect. Not on the ice, but transferring between colleges. Ah, youth.

  181. jimmers2 says:

    Lowetide,

    That name is a blast from the past. Big, physical skills, raw. As I recall he missed a lot of development time. A look on line reminds that he lost a whole college hockey season because of a transfer issue, another from mono and then he broke a leg? Then he decided to make sure he finished his schooling while he could, Mr. Caron likely has a good head on his shoulders.

    His comparability to Benson in terms of development time lost points out how well Benson has done, and how talented he is. to have come back to this point.

  182. jp says:

    Yegfoundation,

    OriginalPouzar: I’ll take the more skilled and talented player who is also not shy to engage and not a shrinking violet over the 10 year pro who has proven in that decade to be a career AHLer – teeener at best.

    Colby Cave turned 25 since Christmas. This is his 5th pro season.

    I’d prefer Benson too though.

  183. OriginalPouzar says:

    I wasn’t the one that called him a 10 year pro to start.

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