Satisfaction

Oilers fans had a wild night while the team won on Tabernac Saturday in Calgary. It was an outstanding game, made even more impressive due to being the dreaded third game in four nights. That was a ‘chicken soup for the soul’ game for fans, an absolutely rocking 60 minutes that left everyone dizzy and satisfied. Who are these guys?

The Calgary Flames are a tough matchup for Edmonton, plus the agitating Matt Tkachuk seemed to get enough of the Oilers roster attention away from the obvious goal (two points!) to win the day. It was reversed last night. Edmonton were demons on the forecheck, Edmonton got off to the great start, Calgary reacted and the Flames burned out in spectacular fashion. What. a. game.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, less than two coffees a month offer here. 

  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘I got a text from Wayne Gretzky that I’ve still got saved’: 8 years later, Sam Gagner reflects on his 8-point night.
  • New Lowetide: What’s next for Tyler Benson and William Lagesson after being called up by the Oilers?
  • New Lowetide:  Breaking down the Oilers’ 50-man list at the trade deadline and the changes expected to come
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘Now it’s over’: With a new contract in hand, Zack Kassian ready to move on after Matthew Tkachuk fight
  • Jonathan Willis: Oilers extend Zack Kassian, betting the power forward can continue to produce with Connor McDavid
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘That’s good for hockey’: Former Oilers weigh in on Battle of Alberta hype ahead of Tkachuk-Kassian meeting
  • Lowetide: Why the Oilers are more likely to trade Adam Larsson than Kris Russell
  • Jonathan Willis: PHWA Midseason Awards: Stars, snubs and what they mean for the year-end NHL Awards
  • Lowetide: Is there real trade deadline value in the Edmonton Oilers’ prospect pipeline?
  • Lowetide: ‘Connor McDavid: Whatever It Takes’ works as breaking news, drama and personality profile
  • Lowetide: Oilers prospects Evan Bouchard and Tyler Benson deliver best minor league performances in 20 years
  • Lowetide: What do Connor McDavid’s best lines tell us about his optimal linemates?
  • Jonathan Willis: An updated list of which Oilers are most likely to be traded in 2019-20
  • Lowetide: Kailer Yamamoto gives Oilers a midseason spark, one of the best in team history
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Josh Archibald, Riley Sheahan show the upward trend of Ken Holland’s offseason moves for the Oilers
  • Lowetide: Post-Christmas performance spike has Evan Bouchard pushing for an NHL job with the Oilers
  • Jonathan Willis: The Oilers’ road forward — and perhaps to a Stanley Cup — requires trusting the kids on defence
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Deciding what to do with Darnell Nurse, Mike Smith, Tyler Benson and Evan Bouchard
  • LowetideKen Holland’s targets for his first trade deadline with the Oilers.
  • Lowetide: Ken Holland’s trade deadline options for the Oilers
  • Lowetide: Complete Oilers top 20 prospects list, winter 2019

OILERS AFTER 52 GAMES

  • Oilers in 2015-16: 21-26-5, 47 points; goal differential -17
  • Oilers in 2016-17: 28-16-8, 64 points; goal differential +14
  • Oilers in 2017-18: 23-25-4, 50 points; goal differential -27
  • Oilers in 2018-19: 23-24-5, 51 points; goal differential -15
  • Oilers in 2019-20: 28-18-6, 62 points; goal differential +7

This year’s team is once again edging closer to the 2016-17 playoff team, something I didn’t foresee happening a month ago. Edmonton’s win last night means the team is solo second, two points ahead of the Flames with a game in hand.

ON THE TENS

  • First 10 games: 7-2-1
  • Second 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Third 10 games: 5-4-1
  • Fourth 10 games: 3-6-1
  • Fifth 10 games: 6-2-2
  • Current 10 games: 2-0-0

I said that the Oilers would cover the bet if the team could grab three points in the first three games. Well, they did that, and then won the final game to go 2-0-1 out of the box after the All-Star break. Exceptional.

OILERS IN FEBRUARY

  • Oilers in February 2016: 1-0-0, two points; goal differential +1
  • Oilers in February 2017: 0-1-0, 0 points; goal differential -2
  • Oilers in February 2018: 0-1-1, one point; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in February 2019: 0-0-1, 1 point; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in February 2020: 1-0-0, two points; goal differential +5

A monster start to February after a strong January. The Oilers are not following the scripts of previous seasons, thank God and Greyhound.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN FEBRUARY

  • On the road to: CAL, ARI (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: SJS, NAS, CHI (Expected 2-1-0)
  • On the road to: TBY, FLA, CAR (Expected 1-1-1)
  • At home to: BOS, MIN (Expected 1-1-0)
  • On the road to: LAK, ANA, VEG (Expected 2-1-0)
  • At home to: WPG (Expected 1-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 8-5-1, 17 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 1-0-0, two points in one game

A brilliant start to a month that will see 14 games in 28 nights, there are some strong teams on the list but btb wins over St. Louis and Calgary represents a major accomplishment.

OILERS 2019-20

The top two lines had five goals and the bottom two lines popped two, the truth is there were no passengers. From the moment Nuge forced the play by aggressively forechecking through game’s end, Edmonton was on its toes, Calgary on its heels. Music! All numbers NST and all numbers five on five unless noted.

LINE 1 Nuge-Leon Draisaitl-Kailer Yamamoto played 10:54, going 17-7 Corsi, 10-6 shots, 2-0 goals and 3-0 HDSC.

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins had a goal, five shots, two HDSC, forechecked like a demon, two takeaways, forced the issue at every turn. Leon Draisaitl had two assists (four in total), two shots, HDSC, two takeaways, won seven of 14. The big man leads the NHL in points. Kailer Yamamoto might have been the best player on the line. Seriously. His early goal combined anticipation, quickness, great hands and he didn’t stop there. Went 1-1-2 on the night, three shots, HDSC, penalty, two takeaways, and was a gigantic pain in the ass on the forecheck. My goodness what a hockey player.

LINE 2 Josh Archibald-Connor McDavid-Zack Kassian played 9:45, going 7-11 Corsi, 4-6 shots, 1-1 goals and no HDSC.

Josh Archibald had an assist, drew a penalty, and played a major role on the line’s goal. McDavid tied up the Calgary defender along the wall, allowing Archibald to grab it, use his time to find Kassian and send a lovely pass to 44, who cashed. Archibald has great utility. Connor McDavid scored a goal, had two shots, HDSC, and a power play goal. He brought all of the usual hammer of the God skills, but also a physical element. Awesome game. Notice his shot is finding the twine more often this year. Don’t know if it’s a harder shot, quicker release or if he’s changing angles, but he’s scoring from longer ranger this year to my eye. Made Noah Hanifin look like a saloon door. Kassian scored an early goal, had two shots and two giveaways. What’s more, he showed great maturity in not getting involved in the extra curricular activities that were going on. Impressive night.

LINE 3 Sam Gagner-Gaetan Haas-Alex Chiasson played 8:55, going 9-6 Corsi, 9-5 shots, 1-1 goals and 2-4 HDSC.

This trio did good things all night, even before the two goal breakout in the third period. Sam Gagner had two shots and two HDSC, and at four on four scored on a nice shot. He’s found a way to make himself valuable. Gaetan Haas had an assist, two shots, drew a penalty and won two of eight on the dot. He scored on a penalty shot, after having been mugged on the way to the net. Alex Chiasson had an assist, two shots and a HDSC. He has been delivering more often offensively of late.

LINE 4 Jujhar Khaira-Riley Sheahan-Patrick Russell played 8:55, going 11-7 Corsi, 7-3 shots, no goals and 3-1 HDSC.

Jujhar Khaira drew a penalty and played 1:34 effective minutes on the PK. Had the first fight of the night against Swift Buddy Robinson. Riley Sheahan had an assist, two shots, a takeaway and won two of nine in the dot. He was effective with the puck on his stick and probably should have been awarded with a couple of extra assists. Patrick Russell had six shots (!!) three HDSC (!!) and drew a penalty. A wonderful game from the fourth line.

PAIRING ONE Darnell Nurse and Ethan Bear played 15:52, going 22-11 Corsi, 12-8 shots, 1-1 goals, 4-0 HDSC. Spent almost 13 of the 16 minutes with 97 or 29’s line.

Darnell Nurse had two shots, took a penalty and picked up an assist on the power play. Slammed Tkachuk into the middle of next week and hauled ass to get to the bench to allow 97 the opportunity for his second goal. Ethan Bear had an assist, two shots and a giveaway. Also fought Matt Tkachuk.

PAIRING TWO Oscar Klefbom and Adam Larsson played 14:48, going 15-8 Corsi, 12-4 shots, 2-0 goals and 6-3 HDSC. Spent about 11 of 15 minutes with either 97 or 29.

Oscar Klefbom had an assist (two in total), a shot, HDSC and a giveaway. He played a strong game again, although I read a few comments about his indifferent play, but remember injuries early in the season have impacted foot speed. Adam Larsson had a strong game defending, wasn’t as filthy as normal but this was the third game in four nights.

PAIRING THREE Caleb Jones and Matt Benning played 12:07, going 15-11 Corsi, 14-7 shots, 2-0 goals and 2-2 HDSC.

Caleb Jones scored a goal and had three shots, he lost his mark on the Buddy Robinson goal but you’re going to have those things happen with rookies. The first two games for this pairing have been splendid. Matt Benning had a shot, defended well and helped keep this pairing out of danger.

GOALIE Mike Smith stopped 15 of 18, .833. Also got into a fight and delivered an epic hair flip that should be a meme by noon. Mikko Koskinen came in for the third period and stopped all eight shots he faced, including two HDSC.

Quick thoughts

I suggested three points out of these first three games would be reasonable, the Oilers grabbed five of six. Outstanding. Credit the players and the coaching staff, that was one of the best games I’ve seen from this Oilers team since the 2005-06 squad delivered brilliance each game. Enjoy this, savor it. What are these guys?

THE ATHLETIC EVENT

I have to say these events are awesome for me. I get to meet folks who have been reading or listening for years, and have connections to the game (met a young man whose father was an outstanding NHL ref for years) that remind me of just how important the game is to all of us. There’s another event on the way, sincere thanks for coming out, and thanks to Allison Currie who was an outstanding host.

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  1. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    WC standings using points percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Central
    STL 17
    COL 12
    DAL 11

    Pacific
    VAN 12
    EDM 10
    CGY 7

    Wildcard
    VGP 7
    ARI 5

    Out of playoffs
    NSH 4
    CHI 4
    WPG 3
    MIN 1
    SJS -5
    ANA -5
    LAK -10

    -On Dec 31st EDM was 11th in the WC in pts % at +3. Its been a good month.

    -Dom Luszczyszyn’s model has EDM at 84% to make the playoffs

    -CGY’s pts % is better than VGP due to one less game played

    -CGY is 12th in the WC in regulation wins (17) and have a -17 goal diff. Fucking Bettman.

    Relevant games today:

    VAN (+150) at CAR (-170) – VAN should be tired and CAR should be pissed off, but VAN is as hot as EDM right now

  2. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    EC standing using points percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Metropolitan
    WSH 23
    PIT 18
    NYI 14

    Atlantic
    BOS 21
    TBY 17
    FLA 11

    Wildcard
    TOR 11
    CBJ 11

    Out of playoffs
    PHI 11
    CAR 10
    NYR 4
    MTL 2
    BUF 1
    OTT -6
    NJD -6
    DET -25

    -FLA has 2 less gp than TOR, CBJ and PHI.

    -TOR, CBJ and PHI are all .606 pts %. Tie-break via regulation wins TOR 22, CBJ 21 and PHI 19.

    Relevant wildcard games today:

    CBJ (+120) at MTL (-140) – Still gotta take Jack Adams although Jack should feel shame in losing to St. Ralph in OT last night.

    VAN (+150) at CAR (-170) –How much does CAR miss Hamilton?

  3. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    19/20
    EDM Goal Share after 52 games (28-18-6)

    Even strength (5v5,4v4,3v3)
    McDavid On Ice 53-47 (53%)
    McDavid Off Ice 57-74 (44%)
    Net EV = -11

    Sp. Teams (PP+SH For–PK+SH Against)
    47-32
    Net ST +16

    Empty Net
    12-10
    Net EN=+2

    SO & PS
    3-3
    SO & PS= Even

    Net Goal Differential = +7

  4. tileguy says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    Good to see you cash on the Blackhawks.

    • Woodguy v2.0 says:

      Thanks.

      Needed it as FLA and CBJ shit the bed.

      Would have been a net loss night and instead was a net win night.

  5. doritogrande says:

    What. A. Game indeed.

    Buddy Robinson gaffe aside (does that guy look like a player or what?), I’ve been very impressed with Jones on the 3rd pair. Not knowing what we don’t know about concussions, could we envision a scenario where Russell goes on LTIR and frees up some extra dough for a scoring winger? Is there a doctor in cap on this plane?

    • Jethro Tull says:

      It made me laugh. Start of the game, Jones gets the puck at the point and he starts doing crossovers to get a lane, but only moved like 6″. Towards the end of the game, he was moving 6′ and really getting a lane open. But for a while he looked like Scooby Doo seeing a ghost.

  6. Jethro Tull says:

    Sunday Morning Sidewalk would also have worked!

    I think Ganger’s poke should have counted.

    I noticed that after every dirty play or game event that didn’t go Calgary’s way, they’d grab and distract. Penalty on Haas should have been more as Tkachuk grabbed Haas, tried to get the fight to possibly distract the refs from giving the penalty shot.

    Thank you Matthew Tkachuk. You have taught me to hate again.

  7. Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    Considering the McDavid Off cohort now has one of the hottest lines in the league (+11 GD at 5-on-5 since being put together), it’s rather incredible that it’s still only at 44%. And yet even that is pretty much all we asked for. “Just get the number around 45% and win the special teams battle”- we really weren’t asking for much, in hindsight.

  8. npanciroli says:

    Heard Tippett changed the forecheck to start the game. Impressive. This has to be a statement game for Holland to get a left winger for McDavid no?

  9. Yeti says:

    The players obviously did great, but full credit to Tippett for getting the team focused with the right mentality and right plan to win that one handily.

  10. Glass says:

    At the deadline, Kris Russell for Mathieu Perreault? Give 3LD to Jones, we get a 3C. Package Gagner + 2020 1st for Rakell?

    Rakell/McDavid/Kassian
    Nuge/Draisaitl/Yamamoto
    Neal/Perreault/Chiasson
    Nygard/Sheahan/Archibald

  11. smellyglove says:

    That was fun. Games like this happen when everything clicks. Everytime the Nuge (or should I say Yamo) line was on the ice, I feared for the Flames. Anyone catch Yammer’s little sticklift behind the Flames net, leading to a goal?

  12. kgo says:

    LT your stat line for the 3d pairings shows 0 goals against….I saw Caleb Jones and Benning each as a culprit for EV goals…

  13. Bling says:

    Yamamoto was making so many great little plays all over the ice that I stopped counting.

    Lots of confidence now on the breakouts and in skating the puck into and out of high danger areas. Beautiful passes to Nuge and Drai all game; that trio could have had another 2-3 goals, that’s how good they were.

    Loved his interview with Scott Take.

    Scott: “What have you learned about the Battle of Alberta?”

    Kailer: “We hate each other.”

  14. innercitysmytty says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    WC standings using points percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Central
    STL17
    COL12
    DAL11

    Pacific
    VAN12
    EDM10
    CGY7

    Wildcard
    VGP7
    ARI5

    Out of playoffs
    NSH4
    CHI4
    WPG3
    MIN1
    SJS-5
    ANA-5
    LAK-10

    -On Dec 31st EDM was 11th in the WC in pts % at +3.Its been a good month.

    -Dom Luszczyszyn’s model has EDM at 84% to make the playoffs

    -CGY’s pts % is better than VGP due to one less game played

    -CGY is 12th in the WC in regulation wins (17) and have a -17 goal diff.Fucking Bettman.

    Relevant games today:

    VAN (+150) at CAR (-170) – VAN should be tired and CAR should be pissed off, but VAN is as hot as EDM right now

    Factoring in shootout goals Calgary is actually a -22 goal differential :;

  15. tcho says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    Would be interesting to see the 97off goals % excluding the first month of the season (which increasingly seems to be an anomaly).

    • Woodguy v2.0 says:

      Nov 1 – Today

      5v5 Only GF%
      McDavid On 47.2
      McDavid Off 45.5

      McDavid’s Dec still weights heavy

  16. Bulging Twine says:

    Rittich’s stick flip cost him 3 points on his save % which is a pretty significant one game drop this late in the season. .913 –> .910

  17. buck yoakam says:

    beatdown in cowtown at the sagdome!!

  18. Reja says:

    BOA Flames have suck holes Cassie and Hrudey on the panel Burke on Coaches Corner over on TSN you have Red Buttons gushing about Rittich bat flip. After hours you have Ex Flame Peplinski and Gelinas all we had was a impartial Louie. It sure would have been nice to have a true representation from the BOA to line up against Peplinski.

    • npanciroli says:

      It’s so brutal watching Sportsnet BoA because there is no away broadcast to stream. Cassie and Hrudey are absolute trash.

    • Jethro Tull says:

      I didn’t know Cassie was so out of touch with hockey. I knew Hrudey and Burke were, but I had high hopes of Cassie.

      When she said the goalie fight benefitted the Flames as Rittich had already played and Koski was cold……

      Yeah Cass he played and got lit up. Koski beat the Stanley Cup Champs the previous night.

      Great play by Smith to get himself and Talbot, who.was looking good, tossed.

      • 442 says:

        Jethro Tull:
        I didn’t know Cassie was so out of touch with hockey. I knew Hrudey and Burke were, but I had high hopes of Cassie.

        When she said the goalie fight benefitted the Flames as Rittich had already played and Koski was cold……

        Yeah Cass he played and got lit up. Koski beat the Stanley Cup Champs the previous night.

        Great play by Smith to get himself and Talbot, who.was looking good, tossed.

        That was one of the dumbest things I have ever heard a sports commentator say. Especially considering that Koskinen had the whole intermission to warm up so he would have no disadvantages and is the better player and Rittich having a howler and that shame walk to the bench and Talbot playing so well and smith sucking.

  19. Lowetide says:

    kgo:
    LT your stat line for d pairings only account for 1 goal against….I saw Caleb Jones and Benning each as a culprit for EV goals…

    My stat line is for specific pairings. Ethan Bear was 1-2 goal differential five on five, he was 1-1 with Nurse and 0-1 with Jones. My numbers drill down on the specific pairings only.

  20. Chris says:

    Is it too much to ask to try Benson on McDavid’s wing? I know there is some foot speed issues, but he’d be the only ‘slow train’ on the line. If Edmonton were to get a decent winger for McDavid, this team would be Stanley Cup contenders.

  21. Lowetide says:

    Chris:
    Is it too much to ask to try Benson on McDavid’s wing? I know there is some foot speed issues, but he’d be the only ‘slow train’ on the line. If Edmonton were to get a decent winger for McDavid, this team would be Stanley Cup contenders.

    The team is winning, tough to break up a group that is playing this well.

  22. Chris says:

    Lowetide,

    I get that. But imagine a McDavid line that is as lethal as our new number one line. Unstoppable.

  23. dustrock says:

    Reja:
    BOA Flames have suck holes Cassie and Hrudey on the panel Burke on Coaches Corner over on TSN you have Red Buttons gushing about Rittich bat flip. After hours you have Ex Flame Peplinski and Gelinas all we had was a impartial Louie. It sure would have been nice to have a true representation from the BOA to line up against Peplinski.

    If you enjoyed Yakupov’s slide to center ice in a meaningless regular season game or Omark’s shootout showmanship, Rittich’s stick flip was the same thing.

    Pro sports is literally entertainment. It makes me laugh when people argue for the sanctity of the game when these guys are paid millions to chase after a piece of rubber.

    The NHL needs more showboating IMHO.

    • Strapping Jocks says:

      I definitely remember loving Yak’s celly. We had been robbed by the refs a couple times that game (goal called back that should have counted??) and it was like a real moral and literal victory and FU to the NHL with that goal.
      I thought the celly was warranted.
      And I am up for more entertainment in the game

    • stephen sheps says:

      On the subject of my son, I have lapsed in my duties with the weekly Yak. We’re now at the “whenever I feel like it” yak report.

      I’m pleased to inform all who care that Yak has been on a hot streak lately, with 5 goals and 4 assists in his last 11 games, bringing him up to 10G and 7a for the year. He was injured and out of the lineup for a few weeks in November, but the full recovery took longer. Now that he’s found his stride, things are looking up. Go Yak!

  24. Profit says:

    I feel lucky to have been able to watch that game.

    I was at the 10-1 game in 1996 (in Calgary) and this game was probably better… I actually thought I was cursed – that I’d never see such a good regular seasons game again. I was wrong.

    Is this what the team needs to gel into the stretch run? They’re on a big high now.

  25. Greenberg says:

    Swift Buddy, saw that, you always sneak a bon mot in there.

    But some serious thank yous for last night at The Rec Room. It was just wonderful to be there for this coming-out party the Oilers put on. And thank you for all the times the cameras focused on Lucic.

    And where is Allison getting her trivia questions from, “Who did the Oilers draft first in 2001?” Holy moley! Next time I expect her to ask “What was the name of Kelly Buchberger’s third girl friend? And what year was that?” If you need to know, it was Priscilla in 1992.

    No Super Bowl can top last night.

    • Jethro Tull says:

      I hope to make one, one of these years. But they say you should never meet your heroes…..

  26. condormcdavis says:

    LT, how far is the balance photo with the bottom six starting to click and that second line looking like fire on ice?

  27. Reja says:

    dustrock: If you enjoyed Yakupov’s slide to center ice in a meaningless regular season game or Omark’s shootout showmanship, Rittich’s stick flip was the same thing.

    Pro sports is literally entertainment. It makes me laugh when people argue for the sanctity of the game when these guys are paid millions to chase after a piece of rubber.

    The NHL needs more showboating IMHO.

    Kinda like Wrestling then.

  28. condormcdavis says:

    dustrock,

    Why is it funny?

    I find the traditions of hockey and the way the game is expected to be played more entertaining than showboats.

  29. Lowetide says:

    Greenberg:
    Swift Buddy, saw that, you always sneak a bon mot in there.

    But some serious thank yous for last night at The Rec Room. It was just wonderful to be there for this coming-out party the Oilers put on. And thank you for all the times the cameras focused on Lucic.

    And where is Allison getting her trivia questions from, “Who did the Oilers draft first in 2001?” Holy moley! Next time I expect her to ask “What was the name of Kelly Buchberger’s third girl friend? And what year was that?” If you need to know, it was Priscilla in 1992.

    No Super Bowl can top last night.

    I TOLD you she knew hockey!!

  30. flyfish1168 says:

    Jethro Tull:
    Sunday Morning Sidewalk would also have worked!

    I think Ganger’s poke should have counted.

    I noticed that after every dirty play or game event that didn’t go Calgary’s way, they’d grab and distract. Penalty on Haas should have been more as Tkachuk grabbed Haas, tried to get the fight to possibly distract the refs from giving the penalty shot.

    Thank you Matthew Tkachuk. You have taught me to hate again.

    turlechuk again some respect when he fought Zack. But last evening he when after 2 non fighters. Bear and Hass. During the Bear incident Nurse was out there he would have kept my respect for him if he would have gone after Nurse but a smaller rookie and then a 2nd non rookie fighter. Show you what a disrespectful person he is.

    • doritogrande says:

      Nurse was tied up with Gio on that play, who I for one identify as a greater threat than Tkachuk.

  31. Lowetide says:

    condormcdavis:
    LT,how far is the balance photo with the bottom six starting to click and that second line looking like fire on ice?

    We might see it in September.

  32. Ben says:

    Leavings pumping Buffalo as a trade partner. That’s a tough one to guess at, as they really don’t have any scoring depth to move. Could be a Vesey or a Girgenson–neither of those guys move the needle scoring-wise.

    Buffalo has $15M committed to Okposo and Skinner long-term. They have 12 and 19 points respectively. Ow.

    I’m guessing Holland’s circled 3C as the greater need. I (still) think the greater need is a shooter for 97.

  33. Nit64 says:

    dustrock: If you enjoyed Yakupov’s slide to center ice in a meaningless regular season game or Omark’s shootout showmanship, Rittich’s stick flip was the same thing.

    Pro sports is literally entertainment. It makes me laugh when people argue for the sanctity of the game when these guys are paid millions to chase after a piece of rubber.

    The NHL needs more showboating IMHO.

    Nothing more entertaining than on ice beat downs of other team’s show boats. Entertainment wins all around.

  34. blainer says:

    1. KY has changed this team. His line is now the number one line and will start seeing the opposition’s best D.

    2. Please try Benson with CMD before trading any high pick’s in such a deep draft. Benson may be that lines KY..

    3. Is it a coincidence that we won two very tough games without Russell and Neal in the lineup ? Hmmmm

    4. Trade a pick in the 2021 draft and or a prospect for Glendenning. We need the Rt shot winning faceoff guy.

  35. Greenberg says:

    Jethro Tull,

    LT is one hero who is a joy to meet.

  36. Professor Q says:

    dustrock: If you enjoyed Yakupov’s slide to center ice in a meaningless regular season game or Omark’s shootout showmanship, Rittich’s stick flip was the same thing.

    Pro sports is literally entertainment. It makes me laugh when people argue for the sanctity of the game when these guys are paid millions to chase after a piece of rubber.

    The NHL needs more showboating IMHO.

    I mean, Yakupov did his slide after the Oilers had two goals called back and the Kings were awarded a goal that was eerily similar to one of Edmonton’s goals that were called back.

    It was a statement against the officials, Kings, and had an emotional element. People always forget the context of that night because they only remember the slide and Don Cherry ranting about the pesky Russian.

    Rittich did his stick flip to taunt Draisaitl and acted like he was the greatest goalie in the world when it was credit to his posts. He even stared at Draisaitl while skating away.

    Nothing wrong with celebrating, I am young and not stingy, but I definitely understood Draisaitl’s point about the credit imbalance there being intentionally disrespectful (he has also been asked about it repeatedly for the past week and finally responded), and, well, Rittich got chased regardless.

  37. blainer says:

    Paging Mr. Nurse.

    Your playing much better these day’s but..

    Believe it or not it was actually a close game.. 4-3 there for a short while..

    Mr Nurse please stop icing the puck sooo much. Especially when your team is hardly winning any faceoff’s.

  38. JimmyV1965 says:

    Chris:
    Lowetide,

    I get that. But imagine a McDavid line that is as lethal as our new number one line. Unstoppable.

    I think it’s a lot to ask a rookie to go up against the greatest dmen in the league every shift of every game. Holland needs to get a winger. At this point, I would be shocked if he doesn’t.

  39. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    “Darnell Nurse had two shots, took a penalty and picked up an assist on the power play. Slammed Tkachuk into the middle of next week and hauled ass to get to the bench to allow 97 the opportunity for his second goal.”
    It is precisely these “little things” (like hauling ass to get to the bench), that make a “big damned difference” in games.

    Great hustle, great team effort! Well done.

    Now that there is a formidable top 6 and points from the bottom 6 and solid D, I am not sure KH will make any massive moves at trade deadline. That is also how you can reward a team for playing well. Let them keep playing well.

    Absolutely want at least 1 legit top 6 winger for McD. Could it be Benson? I hope we can find out before the trade deadline. Then maybe some minor supportive moves…

    After nights like that I am not too pissed that there are some modest overpays for JJ and Kass. Need the toughness on the roster in games like that and in the playoffs.

  40. JimmyV1965 says:

    dustrock: If you enjoyed Yakupov’s slide to center ice in a meaningless regular season game or Omark’s shootout showmanship, Rittich’s stick flip was the same thing.

    Pro sports is literally entertainment. It makes me laugh when people argue for the sanctity of the game when these guys are paid millions to chase after a piece of rubber.

    The NHL needs more showboating IMHO.

    Totally agree. Makes it even more sweet when he gets pummeled and pulled the very next game.

  41. blainer says:

    If KY and Ethan Bear keep their play up they are going to get paid. KH has to be careful with the cap in order to get them signed to long term deals.

  42. Dustylegnd says:

    blainer:
    1. KY has changed this team. His line is now the number one line and will start seeing the opposition’s best D.

    2. Please try Benson with CMD before trading any high pick’s in such a deep draft. Benson may be that lines KY..

    3. Is it a coincidence that we won two very tough games without Russell and Neal in the lineup ? Hmmmm

    4. Trade a pick in the 2021 draft and or a prospect for Glendenning. We need the Rt shot winning faceoff guy.

    no coincidence at all that we area better team with Russell and Neal off the ice…..Lowetide featured what a non factor Neal has been a few days ago and Woodguy put up Russells horrific number s yesterday

    Neal can’t keep up and his hands are gone 5 x5 as well, and he has also gone cold on the PP

    Russell has awful gap control, gives up the blue, and can’t move the puck out once the blue has been given up….terrible combination

    Oilers don’t need to change a dam thing until the wining stops….same guys in

    Benson will get his chance at left wing sooner than later

  43. Bulging Twine says:

    Professor Q:

    Rittich did his stick flip to taunt Draisaitl and acted like he was the greatest goalie in the world when it was credit to his posts. He even stared at Draisaitl while skating away.

    That’s it, it was a taunt and disrespectful towards Draisatl. It wasn’t showmanship, it was showupmanship.

  44. dustrock says:

    JimmyV1965: Totally agree. Makes it even more sweet when he gets pummeled and pulled the very next game.

    Yes, and that is what Rittich has to answer for. If you pull stuff like that, you need to back it up or you’re going to look foolish.

    But it doesn’t “disrespect” the game. IMHO, at any rate.

    It’s like Zlatan taking out a full-page ad in the LA Times thanking himself for agreeing to play for the Galaxy – it would be unbearably egotistical except he has the talent to back it up.

  45. Jethro Tull says:

    Dusty’s show tomorrow is just going to be goal songs. Lt. Eric could probably take the day off!

  46. oilersjo says:

    Good morning. Good to see Sam playing hard. Showing the newbies how it is. Good to see PRussell standing his ground,Haas getting dirty. Bear held his own. RNH throwing punches. This is now a team.

  47. Chris says:

    Ben:
    Leavings pumping Buffalo as a trade partner. That’s a tough one to guess at, as they really don’t have any scoring depth to move. Could be a Vesey or a Girgenson–neither of those guys move the needle scoring-wise.

    Buffalo has $15M committed to Okposo and Skinner long-term. They have 12 and 19 points respectively. Ow.

    I’m guessing Holland’s circled 3C as the greater need. I (still) think the greater need is a shooter for 97.

    Agreed, 100%

  48. Fgary says:

    Was at the game last night and the voice is raspy from cheering 8 times…I don’t think I will find something as satasfying as high fiving oiler fans 8 times surrounded by flames fans. Magic!

  49. blainer says:

    Dustylegnd: no coincidence at all that we area better team with Russell and Neal off the ice…..Lowetide featured what a non factor Neal has been a few days ago and Woodguy put up Russells horrific number s yesterday

    Neal can’t keep up and his hands are gone 5 x5as well, and he has also gone cold on the PP

    Russell has awful gap control, gives up the blue, and can’t move the puck out once the blue has been given up….terrible combination

    Oilers don’t need to change a dam thing until the wining stops….same guys in

    Benson will get his chance at left wing sooner than later

    Will be very interesting to see how Tippet handles Neal and Russell once they are healthy. Coach is gonna have to pass along some tough decisions. This team now has a great internal compete to play.

    I’ve also noticed so much improvement from both Hass and Gags… Gags won’t be back next year but he sure is helping and has added yet another layer of competition for the existing players to get into the lineup AND stay there.

  50. blainer says:

    I will add that this team is playing playoff hockey and if they keep this up they are a cup contender.

    Could Skinner be our Binnington if one of the Goaltenders gets injured. It seems like the AHL guys are stepping up. Maybe Skinner does too.

    I think it’s unlikely that this happens but a hot goaltender is most often the difference in the playoff’s.

  51. dustrock says:

    Funny just watched the extended highlights.

    Gagner had a nice stick to tie up the Flames forward to save a goal. He is not afraid to go to the blue paint on either net and it’s paying off.

    Re our young prospects was twice impressed with Yamamoto’s patience (1) in his goal to open up the angle on Rittich and (2) the pass to Nuge instead of just firing the rebound shot. That’s the awareness we drafted him for.

    On Jones’ goal, man he did a nice job getting a rolling puck on net. Feels like Bear and Jones probably have the best shots for our -dmen, maybe Klefbom could done it but I don’t think Nurse, Larsson or Russell would have.

  52. Chris says:

    blainer,

    I wonder of Holland would be interested in bringing Gagner back as a utility 4th line player…say $750k for two years. I wonder if Gagner would be interested?

  53. OriginalPouzar says:

    530 am off 2.5 hours sleep came quick but I have zero regrets watching that game to completion.

    Woke up on a high, crushes a few strong coffees and had a great hotel gym workout for 90 minutes listening to Cult and Overtime.

    The wife is a bit sick of hearing about it as we walk the streets of São Paulo and see some pretty amazing sites and churches.

    Go Oilers!

  54. Reja says:

    dustrock: Yes, and that is what Rittich has to answer for.If you pull stuff like that, you need to back it up or you’re going to look foolish.

    But it doesn’t “disrespect” the game.IMHO, at any rate.

    It’s like Zlatan taking out a full-page ad in the LA Times thanking himself for agreeing to play for the Galaxy – it would be unbearably egotistical except he has the talent to back it up.

    Personally I loved the way the bat flip played out but if it wasn’t disrespectful to the Oilers why do you think they were so pissed. For Red Buttons to say it wasn’t disrespectful is just showing his Flames bias.

  55. jtblack says:

    “that was one of the best games I’ve seen from this Oilers team since the 2005-06 squad delivered brilliance each game. Enjoy this, savor it. What arethese guys?”

    Agreed. Best B2B games since then. Most complete games Most Dominant games. AMAZING !!!!

    Team looks like a team.

    Cant wait til April 😊

  56. jtblack says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    530 am off 2.5 hours sleep came quick but I have zero regrets watching that game to completion.

    Woke up on a high, crushes a few strong coffees and had a great hotel gym workout for 90 minutes listening to Cult and Overtime.

    The wife is a bit sick of hearing about it as we walk the streets of São Paulo and see some pretty amazing sites and churches.

    Go Oilers!

    Were you also able to squeeze in some Billable Hours? 😎

  57. blainer says:

    Chris:
    blainer,

    I wonder of Holland would be interested in bringing Gagner back as a utility 4th line player…say $750k for two years. I wonder if Gagner would be interested?

    I have never been a fan of Gags but it seems he is finally figuring out how important it is to play defensively. He’s always had the talent offensively but it seemed he also gave up more than he contributed.

    IF he keeps playing this way I would bring him back for $750K. Big if though !!

  58. JimmyV1965 says:

    dustrock: Yes, and that is what Rittich has to answer for.If you pull stuff like that, you need to back it up or you’re going to look foolish.

    But it doesn’t “disrespect” the game.IMHO, at any rate.

    It’s like Zlatan taking out a full-page ad in the LA Times thanking himself for agreeing to play for the Galaxy – it would be unbearably egotistical except he has the talent to back it up.

    Totally agree. The guy is passionate, he has swagger and he celebrated in his way after a big win. Not sure how it disrespects the game. The NHL needs WAAAYYY!!! more of this stuff. We need more personality in the game, not less. It would probably be smart to pick his spots better. Pissing off one of the best players in the world could bite you in the ass.

  59. Ryan says:

    blainer: I have never been a fan of Gags but it seems he is finally figuring out how important it is to play defensively. He’s always had the talent offensively but it seemed he also gave up more than he contributed.

    IF he keeps playing this way I would bring him back for $750K. Big if though !!

    That thought crossed my mind too last night…

  60. Jethro Tull says:

    Gord help me, because I couldn’t help myself. I went over to the enemy’s boards to see what they’re saying.

    Pretty ambivalent about the Oilers. Accept that they were beaten fair and square. Their best players were crushed possession wise.

    Lots of Lucic buyout calculations.

    Idiots. All they have to do is bring up some posts from here from last year. The work has already been done.

  61. Wonder Llama says:

    I think I have a man-crush on Kailer Yamamoto.

    And Britt Daniel of Spoon.

  62. Scungilli Slushy says:

    blainer:
    1. KY has changed this team. His line is now the number one line and will start seeing the opposition’s best D.

    2. Please try Benson with CMD before trading any high pick’s in such a deep draft. Benson may be that lines KY..

    3. Is it a coincidence that we won two very tough games without Russell and Neal in the lineup ? Hmmmm

    4. Trade a pick in the 2021 draft and or a prospect for Glendenning. We need the Rt shot winning faceoff guy.

    I think not.

    Neither are good at what is the heart of the game right now, 5v5 puck movement and speed that takes time and structure away from the opponent.

    Both are an overall drag on the team play IMO, despite having some good attributes which most players do have.

    It’s just not enough of the right stuff. Both are ideally found new homes. Get on another heater Mr. Neal. Biggest cap issues on the team for next season.

  63. OriginalPouzar says:

    doritogrande:
    What. A. Game indeed.

    Buddy Robinson gaffe aside (does that guy look like a player or what?), I’ve been very impressed with Jones on the 3rd pair. Not knowing what we don’t know about concussions, could we envision a scenario where Russell goes on LTIR and frees up some extra dough for a scoring winger? Is there a doctor in cap on this plane?

    LTIR doesn’t actually free up any dough. Depending on how close we are to the cap, we may get a cushion but can’t use it unless he’s out for the year.

    • doritogrande says:

      That’s what I was expecting. Still hoping Russell is ok and is back in short order as he fills a need on the PK. Oh well, we’ll have to get creative then for McDavid’s line.

  64. oilinthepeg says:

    dustrock,

    Agreed. People like to talk about how great and exciting the animosity is between these teams? The scene of Drai chirping No Save Dave on his way to the bench was pure entertainment.
    I think hockey is fun to watch because of the high end skill and the amazing plays that these players can pull off, but at the same time, the drama that is present in a game like last night is enhanced when players feel a sense of passion for their teammates and against their opponents. The stick flip, the slide across center ice, big celebrations – these are the acts that make the memes, that stir the pot. They are annoying when they happen against your team and funny when they happen for your team. Showboating is fun. Hockey has a lot of tradition – ok – some of it worth keeping, a lot of it not. Honestly, I would like to be entertained, and I am not that entertained by people hurting and injuring each other, but if they what to yell and chirp and rile up their team to come out flying, sure. I know that it all can spiral out of control, but in this example (Rittich’s flip), I do think it was fun and interesting to see. Was the ‘we hit two posts and he acts like he won the cup’ quote real, or did someone here just make it up? Laughed out loud at that one! Great line! I just think that’s a great example of a dramatic event that helps make hockey worth tuning in to for 5-8 hours per week!

  65. Scungilli Slushy says:

    dustrock:
    Funny just watched the extended highlights.

    Gagner had a nice stick to tie up the Flames forward to save a goal.He is not afraid to go to the blue paint on either net and it’s paying off.

    Re our young prospects was twice impressed with Yamamoto’s patience (1) in his goal to open up the angle on Rittich and (2) the pass to Nuge instead of just firing the rebound shot.That’s the awareness we drafted him for.

    On Jones’ goal, man he did a nice job getting a rolling puck on net.Feels like Bear and Jones probably have the best shots for our -dmen, maybe Klefbom could done it but I don’t think Nurse, Larsson or Russell would have.

    I’m sure Gagner wants to stay. He’ll do a low salary he doesn’t need money and his prospects are very slim for the NHL at this point.

    IF he want to be the player they need and play a full game every game, he is a better option than P Russell because of his skill. It wouldn’t hurt to finally work on (or actually achieve) an extra boost to his first step this summer.

    But he does produce points and Russell doesn’t. He can bring more to the team if he wants to, but that has always been his nemisis.

  66. dessert1111 says:

    It’s tough to throw Benson in next to McDavid but a bit easier when the tough matchups might actually be going to Drai right now. In any event you have to try it soon to see what you have before the deadline, unless the plan is to get a 1LW regardless.

    Love that third pairing, and Gagner has been all over the puck since the break. These things are making a nice positive difference.

  67. Scungilli Slushy says:

    The bat flip would be funnier from a player on a team that normally shows respect. From the Flames it doesn’t come across the same way.

    Human nature. Cocky things from people that are normally cocky isn’t received the same way.

    It always seems in hockey if you tempt the fates you pay, and they paid. That’s a tradition I’ve noticed.

  68. Scungilli Slushy says:

    dessert1111:
    It’s tough to throw Benson in next to McDavid but a bit easier when the tough matchups might actually be going to Drai right now. In any event you have to try it soon to see what you have before the deadline, unless the plan is to get a 1LW regardless.

    Love that third pairing, and Gagner has been all over the puck since the break. These things are making a nice positive difference.

    I think Connor is better off with Benson and one of Kassian or Archibald than both of them. Yama’s real contribution is that he is a better player than others that have been with Drai and Nuge. If Benson isn’t a total D liability I see him as an upgrade. And he has jam in his game to go with IQ. Could be a thing like Yama, costs nothing but the pick they used on him.

  69. jp says:

    Ben:
    Leavings pumping Buffalo as a trade partner. That’s a tough one to guess at, as they really don’t have any scoring depth to move. Could be a Vesey or a Girgenson–neither of those guys move the needle scoring-wise.

    Buffalo has $15M committed to Okposo and Skinner long-term. They have 12 and 19 points respectively. Ow.

    I’m guessing Holland’s circled 3C as the greater need. I (still) think the greater need is a shooter for 97.

    Skinner for Neal?

  70. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    tcho:
    Woodguy v2.0,

    Would be interesting to see the 97off goals % excluding the first month of the season (which increasingly seems to be an anomaly).

    McDavid On/Off 5v5 Only GF% by Month:

    October
    On 70.8%
    Off 30.8%

    November
    On 50.0%
    Off 47.1%

    December
    On 37.5%
    Off 28.1%

    January
    On 58.3%
    Off 58.1%

    February (1gp so far)
    On (2-2) 50%
    Off (3-1) 75%

    Comrade McDavidoff had a bad October and December.

  71. Nix says:

    Woke this morning and the first thought in my head was ‘tsetse fly’ lol…thanks LT.
    Then, hopping on the ol twitter dot com, I see jems like ‘Yamamoto reminds me of a wasp in a car’ and ‘Kailer is the bee that was chasing Yak’. Today is off to a fine start.

  72. Alpine says:

    Neal for Anisimov is something I’ve been thinking about. Sens traded a short term headache for a longer term headache just recently with Ceci for a Zaitsev. They could do it again and you could chuck in a pick to entice them.

    Ottawa already has a few middle six Cs and Neal is buyout and expansion friendly plus he might help their league worst PP. Let them be fooled into thinking he’s a 20 goal guy again. Maybe he still is.

    Anisimov is more of a just cap equalization but you might be able to run him at 3C and his contract is done after next year.

  73. leadfarmer says:

    Well there was no WiFi on my 16 h flight so no game for me
    But I did take an 8h nap on my skycouch

  74. OriginalPouzar says:

    dustrock: If you enjoyed Yakupov’s slide to center ice in a meaningless regular season game or Omark’s shootout showmanship, Rittich’s stick flip was the same thing.

    Pro sports is literally entertainment. It makes me laugh when people argue for the sanctity of the game when these guys are paid millions to chase after a piece of rubber.

    The NHL needs more showboating IMHO.

    Sure, fair enough.

    At the same time, the players getting “showed up” don’t have to like it.

    Oilers played it perfectly, didn’t say a word about it even though they felt slighted by it – just want out and took absolute care of business.

  75. Richard Roma says:

    How about that resplendent beauty, Chayka.

    Dom currently has the Yotes at a 55% chance to make the playoffs.

    Good gord, what are the conditions on the two picks he traded for Hall?

  76. Harpers Hair says:

    leadfarmer:
    Well there was no WiFi on my 16 h flight so no game for me
    But I did take an 8h nap on my skycouch

    Is this OP’s burner account?

  77. Woogie63 says:

    Yamamoto was drafted #22
    Benson was drafted #32

    Arguably Benson was the better AHLer??

    There is clearly a need for a LW with Connor, we should expect a

    Benson-McDavid-Kassian

    5 game trail, shouldn’t we?

  78. Alpine says:

    Another Neal trade idea is to NSH for Turris. This is kind of a nuclear option as it would add to the cap and Turris has 4 years left after this one.

    But for those four years left you have a pretty expensive but quite effective RH 3C who can move up and down the lineup. He could play on the wing in the top six and probably do well enough there to more than justify his cap hit.

    Turris also has buyout friendly contract like Neal and there’s no protection obligation for the expansion draft either. Seattle might even decide to take him. You also get some insurance for any injury to one of our big 3 or if RNH doesn’t re-sign here (I think he stays). Turris wouldn’t really be blocking any prospects from 3C because we really only have McLeod. Would be an ideal veteran C for someone like Benson.

    He’s a better use of that cap money ‘for us’ than Neal. But from NSH’s perspective, Neal might make more sense because he has more goals than any of their players currently and has had success there before. They also get a shorter contract in return and decrease their log jam of centremen.

    • Genjutsu says:

      Is Turris a superior option than Haas?

      Take away Turris’ PP points and allow for adjustment to the league for Haas.

      I’d wager Turris has had better linemates too.

  79. Dustylegnd says:

    blainer: I have never been a fan of Gags but it seems he is finally figuring out how important it is to play defensively. He’s always had the talent offensively but it seemed he also gave up more than he contributed.

    IF he keeps playing this way I would bring him back for $750K. Big if though !!

    He has figured out what Tippled wants form him and thus has become very useful, at this point his options are Europe and I am guessing little else, if Tippled can sign him for 750 K x 2….there may be a fit, otherwise sail on Sam Wise

  80. housty17 says:

    What o have seen on the last month is a team coming together.

    I strongly feel that Yamamoto has had a much bigger impact than people th k and see potentially it has actually motivated the whole team by his acts on the ice.

    His pick pursuit is fantastic. And it seems this has forced his own line mates to step up and play more i with more intensity. Leon seems to skate more with less rest on the ice. Same with Nuge.
    This team plays way better with having an aggressive forecheck.

    The littlest guy on the team I think has stirred the pot here.

    Also same with Gags. I always seen him as a heart n soul guy on the team.
    Remembering a few of his fights with the oil in his younger days inspired his teammates then. Hi attributes sometimes are overlooked when seeing his game slowing down. It is important that.

    Leon back checking was so awesome to see when he does this as like many other players it demonstrated the team as a whole is trusting there systems play.

    He short passes are great albeit sometimes the messed up with those passes in there own end but they are moving the luck around quickly and supporting each other all over the ice.

    The team is starting to have an identity now and the coach is going to have to do his best in rotating in and out guys to keep them engaged with the same intensity that this leadership group is doing with.

    Man I feel for Neal abit as his position is questionable moving forward. It is not as much as Archie playing well in his spot , it’s more like the guy coming in who can compliment mcdavid better a guy who is legit for top six.

    Benson may not be as fast but being a good board player tenacious forechecker and amazing laser may be the best compliment. Macdaving could have, deasaitl 2.0

    Anyways exciting times.

  81. leadfarmer says:

    Harpers Hair: Is this OP’s burner account?

    Nope I don’t get billable hours for watching Oilers
    Also I’m in New Zealand

  82. CrazyCoach says:

    Hey folks,

    Loved that game last night. It is nice to see some prospects work out like Yamamoto and Bear.

    It has been a fun month of hockey.

    Here’s to more.

  83. who says:

    Alpine:
    Another Neal trade idea is to NSH for Turris. This is kind of a nuclear option as it would add to the cap and Turris has 4 years left after this one.

    But for those four years left you have a pretty expensive but quite effective RH 3C who can move up and down the lineup. He could play on the wing in the top six and probably do well enough there to more than justify his cap hit.

    Turris also has buyout friendly contract like Neal and there’s no protection obligation for the expansion draft either. Seattle might even decide to take him. You also get some insurance for any injury to one of our big 3 or if RNH doesn’t re-sign here (I think he stays). Turris wouldn’t really be blocking any prospects from 3C because we really only have McLeod. Would be an ideal veteran C for someone like Benson.

    He’s a better use of that cap money ‘for us’ than Neal. But from NSH’s perspective, Neal might make more sense because he has more goals than any of their players currently and has had success there before. They also get a shorter contract in return and decrease their log jam of centremen.

    It’s an intriguing idea.
    But you have to ask yourself, is Turris any better as a 3C than Neal is as a scoring winger. Those are the Oilers two biggest needs. I’m just not sure that Turris is an upgrade. And it’s another year of contract.
    I think the best solution is to buy Neal out this summer. Or retain half his salary and try to trade him.

  84. Dustylegnd says:

    Yamamoto is a revelation, unreal quickness, unreal stick, and just constantly forces the opposition to turn the puck over at the worst possible time…basically a forechecking clinic overnight

    Yes Benson has better AHL numbers than Yamo did in the AHL, however the NHL is a very different league and I also believe Yamo needs elite talent with him based on his ability to make quick brilliant decisions with the puck…..so because Yamo has been able to make the 2nd line the 1st line doesn’t mean you plug in Benson and make the 1st line the 1st line again

    We are rolling with the current line-up and the 1st thing some people want to do is change the lineup, that is a great way to piss your players off,” thanks for busting your balls and racking up points like no tomorrow and I know we are winning at an incredible rate, here I am putting in an AHL guy instead”…nope

    Edmonton has way more elite talent than Calgary, however Calgary does have better goaltending….despite no save Dave’s performance last night….Smith was not particularly sharp in the past 2 games vs the Flames and he will cost us in the long run….we need Koski to get back to his 915% form.

    I love this line up without Russell…..and with Bouchard waiting as well as Broberg….time for KH to make some master moves and set this team up for a 7 year window…..

  85. Richard Roma says:

    Next game is against the 2-5-3 Yotes on Tuesday.

    OEL suffered some type of lower body injury against the Kings a few days ago.

    The Coyotes have also admitted to recruiting misconduct involved with fitness testing draft-eligible Canadian players before the combine.

  86. Bank Shot says:

    Alpine:
    Another Neal trade idea is to NSH for Turris. This is kind of a nuclear option as it would add to the cap and Turris has 4 years left after this one.

    It’s a rough deal for the Oilers but I think that is the only kind of deal you get for Neal.

    Turris would make the Oilers a better team for sure.

    I think Nashville would rather have Turris though. They know Neal is finished.

  87. Richard Roma says:

    And Kuemper and his .929 are on the shelf as he’s listed as injured.

  88. Ryan says:

    CrazyCoach:
    Hey folks,

    Loved that game last night.It is nice to see some prospects work out like Yamamoto and Bear.

    It has been a fun month of hockey.

    Here’s to more.

    Agreed.

    Many of us have been hard on Holland with myself included for old timey thinking with the Kassian and Chiasson contracts.

    However, He also deserves a fair amount of credit for some nice bargain bin shopping (Archibald, Sheehan, Nygard, and Haas…

    Recall back to guys like Petrell, Joensu, and Pakarinen…

    Also, he certainly timed the Yamamoto recall well. Good patience.

    Let’s see how it Kenny can make a trade that’s preferably more than a rental.

    • Genjutsu says:

      Fully agree it didn’t look good early but his bets have been showing very well of late.

      Holland may well go into the deadline with a team rolling and be negotiating from a position of strength.

      I hear tell the man’s a grinder.

  89. Rondo says:

    The greatest press conference of all time

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjxHZ5Od7zs

  90. Harpers Hair says:

    For those with an interest in the Bean Pot tournament that starts tomorrow on TSN, here’s a fantastic primer.

    https://dobberprospects.com/boston-beanpot-preview/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

  91. OriginalPouzar says:

    blainer:
    If KY and Ethan Bear keep their play up they are going to get paid. KH has to be careful with the cap in order to get them signed to long term deals.

    Kailer has another year left, I’m quite confident.

  92. OriginalPouzar says:

    blainer:
    I will add that this team is playing playoff hockey and if they keep this up they are a cup contender.

    Could Skinner be our Binnington if one of the Goaltenders gets injured. It seems like the AHL guys are stepping up. Maybe Skinner does too.

    I think it’s unlikely that this happens but a hot goaltender is most often the difference in the playoff’s.

    Sorry, but I just don’t think Skinner is an option at the NHL level this year – I know he got the call earlier but that was to back-up for one game. I do think, even though Skinner has won the net for now, if there is an injury where the back-up would need to play some games, Starrett would still get the call.

    As an aside, Wells was called up from Wichita for yesterday and backed up Starrett- no idea what the deal is, can’t find any info.

  93. OriginalPouzar says:

    jtblack: Were you also able to squeeze in some Billable Hours?

    Not a single one today – so far so good

    Of coursee, in April, two weeks in Japan, I billed just under 40 hours – I don’t mind working on vacation, not at all, that was a bit much though.

  94. maudite says:

    My favourite side show last night was they boys obviously were fully ascribing to the “take a number” mantra.

    Turtlechuk and Kneeordano

    Every in play or after whistlescrum I could see those two were getting got. Like a couple clear double take incidents where they saw who it was and added a little more salt after due to it being one of those two.

    I haven’t see Kneeordano that visually enraged over and over and over again. It was getting funny.

  95. OriginalPouzar says:

    Harpers Hair: Is this OP’s burner account?

    Nope, i had wifi on my 10 hour flight as well as the shorter flight to TO and between the flight and the lounge in TO, didn’t miss much (that was the STL game). I did have a 7 hour sleep on the dreamliner in the pod, of course.

  96. OriginalPouzar says:

    Side:
    OP doesn’t sleep 8 hours straight. He takes 25 minute naps between sets at the gym.

    Ha!

    Well, I am feeling wasted right now – slept for less than 3 after the game last night and was up at 5:30 am to caffeine up for the gym – just got back to the hotel after 7 hours or so out and about – only 11km it ways for walking.

    Second workout coming up after I get through the comments – just a quick 19 minute sprint workout – shower, out for dinner at some vegan place that looks nice and I will be wasted!

  97. Offside says:

    dustrock,

    Yaks celly was after a hard fought goal. Rittich celly was based on 2 posts

  98. OriginalPouzar says:

    Woogie63:
    Yamamoto was drafted #22
    Benson was drafted #32

    Arguably Benson was the better AHLer??

    There is clearly a need for a LW with Connor, we should expect a

    Benson-McDavid-Kassian

    5 game trail, shouldn’t we?

    This year Benson was the better point producer but not necessarily the better player – the game you are seeing from Yama right now is what he was doing in the AHL – the difference is he was often playing with 2nd line AHLers – Esposito, Joe G., Cave, etc. – fine players but not skilled.

    Also, lets not forget, Benson got the benefit of a full 20 year old AHL development season – yama got yo-yoed and then, once sent down, got hurt not long after he started to settle in and show how elite his game is down there.

    Not saying Benson won’t have a solid NHL impact, he may, but I can’t get on board with a direct AHL comparison based on points.

  99. pdaouster says:

    Thank you, Calgary Flames, for helping shape this Oilers edition into an honest to goodness cohesive team the past few games! Let’s roll.

  100. Woogie63 says:

    Benson
    McDavid
    Kassian
    Hopkins
    Driasaitl-
    Yamamoto
    Klefbom
    Larsson
    Nurse
    Bear
    Jones
    Koskinen

    Is a lot of positives from the Pete years

    • Ice Sage says:

      mmmmK… a few of those players preceded Chia Pete. Just Drai and Nuge though, no biggie.
      Just add Barzal or -this hurts – Tkachuk instead?

    • OilClog says:

      Hopkins, Draisatl, Klef, and Nurse are pre-pete

      Hopkins is pre everyone.

      MacT famously saw everyone else as light bringers, lore must not be forgotten.

      Larsson costed Hall

      Pete years costed me positive hair growth.

  101. GMB3 says:

    Woogie63,

    Oh god… we can’t be serious here can we

  102. oilsnc79 says:

    Nix:
    Woke this morning and the first thought in my head was ‘tsetse fly’ lol…thanks LT.
    Then, hopping on the ol twitter dot com, I see jems like ‘Yamamoto reminds me of a wasp in a car’ and ‘Kailer is the bee that was chasing Yak’. Today is off to a fine start.

    Yamfly > Energizer Bunny .

  103. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    CrazyCoach,

    Great to see you back Coach, it’s been a while.

    Please post more often if you have the time.

    • tcho says:

      Seconded.

    • Woodguy v2.0 says:

      Richard Roma:
      Next game is against the 2-5-3 Yotes on Tuesday.

      OEL suffered some type of lower body injury against the Kings a few days ago.

      The Coyotes have also admitted to recruiting misconduct involved with fitness testing draft-eligible Canadian players before the combine.

      That fucking dirtbag Dustin Brown put yet another player on IR with a knee to knee hit and NHL player safety just shrugs.

      He derailed Here’s career and others and now OEL.

      Hertz just recently tore the same knee up and there is no question it was weaker due to the previous injury.

      *spits*

  104. Pretendergast says:

    CrazyCoach:
    Hey folks,

    Loved that game last night.It is nice to see some prospects work out like Yamamoto and Bear.

    It has been a fun month of hockey.

    Here’s to more.

    Your tweet last night was hall of fame worthy coach, thanks for the laugh.

  105. slopitch says:

    There really isnt much to say after last night. Thoroughly enjoyed the game and the theatrics. Really enjoying that 2nd line. Drai was a beast and Yamo was tenacious on the puck and clinical when it matters. It fun to talk possible improvements but not today. Best game in a long time for the Oilers. Gonna throw out some kudos to Gagner, Archibald and Chaison as well.

  106. ashley says:

    pdaouster:
    Thank you, Calgary Flames, for helping shape this Oilers edition into an honest to goodness cohesive team the past few games! Let’s roll.

    Exactly right. After the game highlighted by Kassian destroying Tkachuk, it was clear in the post game interviews that something changed. This team galvanized in a way that could not be brought about with a different approach. Also, the Flames players were not proud of Tkachuk’s turtle and many wouldn’t even look at him as he returned to the bench. Lucic is one of the most respected players in that dressing room, allegedly, and is a proud and honourable player who was likely disgusted with what took place. It was a like a great power transfer from the Flames to the Oilers.

    We lost the battle that night, but we are going to win this war.

    I suspect Tkachuk gets traded by next trade deadline, maybe as early as summer.

    • McNuge93 says:

      I think youre drawing some conclusions that are likely not correct. I doubt the Flames are that concerned about Chuckie. His antics distracted the Oilers and helped the Flames to a couple of wins, plus he is talented. No way he is traded. Gaudreau would be traded much more likely.

      • ashley says:

        McNuge93,

        I’m making
        McNuge93,

        I haven’t made any conclusions (incorrect or correct) as it’s not possible in a post filled with assumptions and conjecture. But that’s at least 80% of what we do here in the comment section. If we are looking for only statements and conclusions that follow strictly from facts, then most of us can not bother posting a lot of what we do and we will have a very dull comment section.

        If I’m reading correctly, I think you are saying that you disagree with some (or all) of my assumptions and my Tkachuk prediction. Fair enough.

    • godot10 says:

      I don’t know. It looked like Lucic turtled the entire game yesterday. MIA. Had a chance to go with Nurse, and skated away.

  107. SwedishPoster says:

    The BoA has become the Oprah Show of first fights, you get a fight card and you get a fight card and you get a fight card…

    Hell of an entertaining game, but more importantly a very strong performance from the team, they just flattened Calgary.

    Gagner tends to struggle keeping the intensity up for more than a few games at a time but as long as he does he has enough skill and moxy to make a difference. I kinda like that cobble together line of him, Haas and Chiasson. They all have limited skillsets but their strengths and weaknesses sort of match, they all bring a different part of the puzzle. Two strong nights in a row for them.

  108. SwedishPoster says:

    Half-watching Vancouver-Carolina, two teams with some fun to watch, highly skilled players, Elias Pettersson and Quinn Hughes are two of the most entertaining players in the league. Though I must ask, I live on the other side of the pond so I might have missed it, did they move Vancouver to California? Seems like every time a watch a Canucks game they are on the plus side of reffing. Vancouver Cailfornucks?

  109. Lowetide says:

    New for The Athletic: Oilers’ 2016 draft and the value of waiting five years

    https://theathletic.com/1577184/2020/02/02/lowetide-oilers-2016-draft-and-the-value-of-waiting-five-years/

  110. ChiliChunk says:

    ashley: I suspect Tkachuk gets traded by next trade deadline, maybe as early as summer.

    I would be very surprised by that. My impression is that many Flames fans expect him to be their next captain. Saw more comments along these lines after last nights game where he and Talbot were among the few getting any praise from their fan base.

  111. Kraz says:

    It was some what frustrating watching really good young players on teams I hate like the Canucks but then it just made me think how Canucks fan would feel watching McDavid and Draisaitl on the oilers

  112. tcho says:

    Caknuckles lose in the SO, but at least they lose.

  113. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nucks lose in a SO so they grab a point to move 3 up on the Oil but the Oil have a game in hand.

    Things will look so good after yet another regulation win on Tuesday against the Yotes.

  114. Woogie63 says:

    Ice Sage:
    mmmmK… a few of those players preceded Chia Pete.Just Drai and Nuge though, no biggie.
    Just add Barzal or -this hurts – Tkachuk instead?

    Correct on Nuge

    You have to give Pete the credit for the Driasaitl and McDavid contracts.

    Draisaitl’s contract got some panning in the moment.
    McDavid for the full 8 years is looking pretty smart.

  115. Munny says:

    What a weekend.

    Epic victory last night… I had to re-watch long stretches of the game the Oil looked so good.

    And today my Niners finally play in the Superb Owl with a decent coach, defense and QB… first time since 1994 with a real team.

    They are going to pummel KC like the Oil did to the Flames last night.

  116. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Dustylegnd: He has figured out what Tippled wants form him and thus has become very useful, at this point his options are Europe and I am guessing little else, if Tippled can sign him for 750 K x 2….there may be a fit, otherwise sail on Sam Wise

    Sam won the life lottery.

    Not only has he made ~36MM in his NHL career, he married an attractive woman who became a medical doctor and whose family”s money makes Sam’s look like change found in the couch.

    She’s from Edmonton and I think Sam would sign fairly cheap to stay here.

  117. jm363561 says:

    Chris:
    Is it too much to ask to try Benson on McDavid’s wing? I know there is some foot speed issues, but he’d be the only ‘slow train’ on the line. If Edmonton were to get a decent winger for McDavid, this team would be Stanley Cup contenders.

    Totally agree. The bottom Six is doing just fine without a new 3C. The only line that needs a fix is Connor’s. (On the other hand, it is always tough for a coach to change a winning team).

  118. digger50 says:

    I really hopeBenson looks good in the Arizona game. We really need to know if he can be better than what we have.

    I feel the team is close, as I did in summer. I wanted more help in the summer and didn’t get it. Yet they did get it in the form of excellent penalty kill and now even more separation of the bottom six. Keepers separating from depth options.

    Jessi P was supposed to be our missing piece.

    And I do think Holland changes his mind on Broberg if he had a better understanding of the team. Matter of fact I’d be watching Broberg really closely as he could be the trade piece to bring in a difference making forward.

    Tough to make money work today and looking forward but things are looking like we are good and close to excellent. If Jessie or Jessie’s replacement could be a difference maker….

    And if we could do one great trade and bring in a cost controlled third line center!!!

    Loved Yammer in last three games, what a revelation. Same with Bear and Jones. Benson and Lagesson on deck, oh my

    • OilClog says:

      Holland trading his 1st pick as the Oilers GM 8 months into it, what’s being offered Eichel? Lol

    • godot10 says:

      Broberg is Klefbom’s replacement in 4 years. A smooth transition from Klefbom-Nurse to Nurse-Broberg on left D. Broberg basically helps guarantee the left side of the defense for the entirety of McDavid’s contract.

  119. russ99 says:

    Its nice to have a roster with NHL options instead of three quarters of a roster and try and squeeze players that aren’t good enough in.

    We’ll need all of Neal, Benson, Russell and Jones the rest of the way and into the postseason, hopefully.

    Some biases or how preferred player types are good and those that don’t fit that loose definition are useless should go away. A good exciting competitive team should be enough, we need to learn to enjoy and not gripe.

  120. jm363561 says:

    Kailer Yamamoto stat: 11 games into the NHL part of his season, he has tallied 5-5-10, +11, with all the points coming at even strength and all the assists being primary helpers.

  121. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Richard Roma:
    How about that resplendent beauty, Chayka.

    Dom currently has the Yotes at a 55% chance to make the playoffs.

    Good gord, what are the conditions on the two picks he traded for Hall?

    The 2020 1st is top 3 protected so if ARI misses and wins a top 3 slot the pick moves to 2021.

    The 2021 3rd round pick becomes a 2nd if Hall re-signs in ARI OR ARI wins a playoff round this year and becomes a 2021 1st if both conditions happen.

    • Genjutsu says:

      Dom’s model looks as far off as his prediction of team waivers being vastly superior to Oilers forwards so i wouldn’t think ARI makes it.

      Hell if they keep sliding there’s every chance Hall goes at the deadline.

      Poor rotten luck: a few key injuries is all it takes in this league.

  122. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    CrazyCoach:
    Hey folks,

    Loved that game last night.It is nice to see some prospects work out like Yamamoto and Bear.

    It has been a fun month of hockey.

    Here’s to more.

    Ben!!!!

    Long time brother.

    Your tweet last night brought the house down.

    Well done.

  123. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    ChiliChunk,

    Turtle was taking a lot of heat in the game review thread at fLamesnation. Jenny Hockey too, Sneaky Gio and Notaman all got the finger pointed at them for not bringing enough compete or crust. “Lucy” seemed to get a pass from many comments that I read, which I thought amusing.

  124. digger50 says:

    OilClog:
    Holland trading his 1st pick as the Oilers GM 8 months into it, what’s being offered Eichel? Lol

    Holland would never have picked Broberg if his head wasn’t up his ass. There were much better players available, particularly for this club.,If we are lucky Broberg is another Nurse without physicality.

    Lol.

    • Yeti says:

      digger50: Holland would never have picked Broberg if his head wasn’t up his ass. There were much better players available, particularly for this club.,If we are lucky Broberg is another Nurse without physicality.

      Lol.

      No, Broberg’s potential top end is considerably higher than Nurse. He might not make it, but that’s the potential. True, if he doesn’t make it, he doesn’t have Nurse’s physicality to fall back on.

    • OilClog says:

      Holland was eye humping Broberg when he was still on Detroit ffs.

      Maybe he wasn’t the most ideal selection for Oiler needs, but if he turns into a top pairing defender it won’t matter much.

      Your assessment and terrible recognition on what to laugh out loud at is troublesome.

  125. Munny says:

    Because I enjoy my perverse satisfactions in life, I tuned into Flames Radio post-game last night.

    Oh how Flames fans’ anger can feed the soul.

    Gaudreau, Monahan. Lucic, Backlund, Kylington and Hanifin were getting a lot of rage aimed their way.

  126. godot10 says:

    jm363561:
    Kailer Yamamoto stat:11 games into the NHL part of his season, he has tallied 5-5-10, +11, with all the points coming at even strength and all the assists being primary helpers.

    I believe somebody might have said to just forget about him till January last September.

    • BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

      You were optimistic.

      I have been saying not to expect anything for him until draft +4 at the earliest since he was drafted. My timeline was loosely based on the development history of small skill players like St. Louis, Gaudreau, Ennis, Johnson and Gerbe.

    • Genjutsu says:

      Well played, sir.

  127. Reja says:

    After the Flames loss in OT I didn’t think the Oilers had enough nasty in their line-up to slow down the cheap shot artist on the Flames holy smokes they were like a pack of Wolves last night everyone involved. Gagner going at Gio like a madman and Chases Glenn Anderson’s stick to Magiapane face, that was pure filth. Can’t wait for the Playoffs still hope Holland adds a 3C or forward with a dark side.

    • Genjutsu says:

      One thing about players like Neal and Chase will bring more value with their size and physical play in the playoffs.

  128. godot10 says:

    Reja:
    After the Flames loss in OT I didn’t think the Oilers had enough nasty in their line-up to slow down the cheap shot artist on the Flames holy smokes they were like a pack of Wolves last night everyone involved. Gagnergoing at Gio like a madman and Chases Glenn Anderson’s stick to Magiapane face, that was pure filth. Can’t wait for the Playoffs still hope Holland adds a 3C or forward with a dark side.

    The Giordano clip on McDavid Wednesday was the straw that broke the camel’s back. The Oilers, like Side, had till then sort of believed Giordano’s fake remorse.

  129. v4ance says:

    Lost in the glow of the win and the fights, Smith had another bad game. In a way, his getting ejected for fighting sealed the win because he didn’t have a chance to let in any more goals and Koskinen was perfect in relief.

    Last 10 games:

    Score..Result..Smith Save %
    8 – 3 W 0.833 (basement)
    3 – 4 OTL 0.893 (bad)
    7 – 3 W 0.900 (almost good)
    4 – 2 W 0.938 (great)
    4 – 2 W 0.946 (great)
    6 – 4 W 0.889 (bad)
    4 – 1 W 0.972 (great)
    2 – 3 OTL 0.885 (bad)
    1 – 5 NA 0.857 (relief appearance)
    2 – 5 L 0.840 (cellar)

    If you just looked at the save percentages, Smith deserves a 3-5-1 record

    Instead he sports a 6-1-2 record with both overtime losses very winnable games if he makes but one more save in regulation.

    The red hot Oilers are outscoring any and all mistakes he is making. I hope the coach and management to see that they are playing with fire relying on Smith because he is just not good enough on a consistent enough basis anymore.

  130. Reja says:

    godot10: The Giordano clip on McDavid Wednesday was the straw that broke the camel’s back.The Oilers, like Side, had till then sort of believed Giordano’s fake remorse.

    The masses are finally on to sneaky Gio he just used his get out of jail free card.

  131. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    What does the crowd think of Aaron Dell as a backup next year?

  132. OriginalPouzar says:

    digger50: Holland would never have picked Broberg if his head wasn’t up his ass. There were much better players available, particularly for this club.,If we are lucky Broberg is another Nurse without physicality.

    Lol.

    Seems like you have made conclusions that are impossible to know at this time.

    The only logical conclusion is you think you know more about 18 year old prospects across the hockey world than the old scout Ken Holland and his team?

  133. OriginalPouzar says:

    godot10: I believe somebody might have said to just forget about him till January last September.

    I sure did – prior to September as well.

  134. Side says:

    godot10: The Giordano clip on McDavid Wednesday was the straw that broke the camel’s back.The Oilers, like Side, had till then sort of believed Giordano’s fake remorse.

    #KassianDerangementSyndrome
    #SideDerangementSyndrome
    #DazedAndConfused
    #JustAnotherGodotFictionPost

  135. Johnny skid says:

    Side: #KassianDerangementSyndrome
    #SideDerangementSyndrome
    #DazedAndConfused
    #JustAnotherGodotFictionPost

    my thoughts as well.

  136. godot10 says:

    OriginalPouzar: I sure did – prior to September as well.

    95-99% of the comparable players to Yamamoto (diminuative scorers in the WHL) in recent history needed significant AHL time. Eberle perhaps being the only exception. And Eberle did see AHL games at the end of his draft +1 and draft + 2 seasons, and played in the men’s world championship.

    It is foolhardy to hope that it is different this time.

    The thing about starting the year in the AHL is that the player can build momentum for a January recall.

    A prospect loses that if they start in the NHL

  137. Side says:

    godot10: I believe somebody might have said to just forget about him till January last September.

    I believe that same somebody also said this about Woodcroft:

    “So the Oilers are going to give a guy who hasn’t coached a game in his life anywhere, the job in Bakersfield, a role crucial to developing young players.

    Guys who want to coach are willing to ride the buses in the WHL and ECHL and AHL learning their craft, rather than living the high life in 4-star hotels and private team jets as an assistant coach in the NHL for over a decade.”

    Just curious why you never bring up these comments of yours like you do to your other comments?

  138. marty62 says:

    I dont have a problem with the stick flip by Riddich. That being said, he should know if you poke the old bear long and hard enough it gets angry and last night he had to face the consequences. Moral of story, karma is a bitch. If you want to showboat you have to remember to back it up. I hope Benson does get the tryout with Mcdavid, he thinks the game welll and would complement that line. Holland still has to go grab us some depth at forward at the deadline.

  139. OilClog says:

    Terry Bradshaw was lost reliving Shakira up on stage, no worries I was too bud.

  140. godot10 says:

    Side: I believe that same somebody also said this about Woodcroft:

    “So the Oilers are going to give a guy who hasn’t coached a game in his life anywhere, the job in Bakersfield, a role crucial to developing young players.

    Guys who want to coach are willing to ride the buses in the WHL and ECHL and AHL learning their craft, rather than living the high life in 4-star hotels and private team jets as an assistant coach in the NHL for over a decade.”

    Just curious why you never bring up these comments of yours like you do to your other comments?

    Is that the best you can do?

    An observation that the Oilers hired someone to coach their AHL team who had never (head) coached a game in the life.

  141. Jethro Tull says:

    Anyone else hear the commentator call Jay Woodcroft “Tim Woodhead” last night?

  142. digger50 says:

    OilClog:
    Holland was eye humping Broberg when he was still on Detroit ffs.

    Maybe he wasn’t the most ideal selection for Oiler needs, but if he turns into a top pairing defender it won’t matter much.

    Your assessment and terrible recognition on what to laugh out loud at is troublesome.

    That’s the point, it seems you are almost smart enough to understand.

    Holland made up his mind based on the needs of his former organization. Broberg right now has excellent skating with questionable hockey IQ. His offence is close to Klefbom, a bit behind.

    When you reply to a post with a snarky remark and then “lol “it simply reads as condescending. That was your original reply.

    • Genjutsu says:

      I’m not sure his offence is behind Klef’s.

      He’s a better skater too and should be ready to replace him on a value contract when Klef’s contract ends.

      Time will tell if it was the right pick but I can see what the thought was.

  143. digger50 says:

    OriginalPouzar: Seems like you have made conclusions that are impossible to know at this time.

    The only logical conclusion is you think you know more about18 year old prospects across the hockey world than the old scout Ken Holland and his team?

    I think you lead the way OP on illogical conclusions.

  144. Richard Roma says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Hall

    Thanks.

    So Chayka is up the creek without a paddle.

    A first and third against 55% odds of making the playoffs with an injured OEL and Kuemper.

    I wonder if the stathlete flips Hall before the deadline.

    Has something like this happened before?

  145. who says:

    v4ance:
    Lost in the glow of the win and the fights, Smith had another bad game.In a way, his getting ejected for fighting sealed the win because he didn’t have a chance to let in any more goals and Koskinen was perfect in relief.

    Last 10 games:

    Score..Result..Smith Save %
    8 – 3W0.833 (basement)
    3 – 4OTL0.893 (bad)
    7 – 3W0.900 (almost good)
    4 – 2W0.938 (great)
    4 – 2W0.946 (great)
    6 – 4W0.889 (bad)
    4 – 1W0.972 (great)
    2 – 3OTL 0.885 (bad)
    1 – 5 NA0.857 (relief appearance)
    2 – 5L0.840 (cellar)

    If you just looked at the save percentages, Smith deserves a 3-5-1 record

    Instead he sports a 6-1-2 record with both overtime losses very winnable games if he makes but one more save in regulation.

    The red hot Oilers are outscoring any and all mistakes he is making.I hope the coach and management to see that they are playing with fire relying on Smith because he is just not good enough on a consistent enough basis anymore.

    Agreed.
    Smith seems to be Tippets one blind spot. Koskinen has proven to be the better goalie but Smith seems to get a lot more rope.

  146. Side says:

    godot10:
    https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=50313

    Has Head Coach Todd McLellan coached every game on his schedule throughout his entire career?

    No, he has not.

    Do you know who substituted for Todd during his personal issues, illnesses and or injuries that caused Todd to miss games?

    I’ll give you one guess.

    And the answer will cause you to sweep this conversation under the rug again in the future.

  147. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    godot10,

    I’ve posted about the need for patience with KY a number of times. Here’s one example, my DDG-fu is weak, so I’m having a hard time finding other examples.

    BornInAGretzkyJersey says:
    July 16, 2019 at 10:59 am

    pts2pndr,

    I’d give the guy leeway AT LEAST through his ELC.

    If you look at some comparable players to KY — small, skill players — you’ll find that they often take 4-6 years post-draft to really pop.

    Guys like:

    Martin St. Louis
    Johnny Gaudreau
    Nathan Gerbe
    Tyler Ennis
    Tyler Johnson

    All come to mind. Yes Alex DeBrincat popped early but he’s more the exception than the rule.

    Source:
    https://lowetide.ca/2019/07/16/are-friends-electric/comment-page-1/

  148. duct tape and foil says:

    Gags can come back next year on a small one year contract if he plays like that. Happy to have him back and I bet the team thinks the same. If he can play 40 games with 4th line intensity then his skills are a bonus. Been a joy watching him play every recent game like his last.

    Neal is still very useful on the PP as he is a much better puck handler and passer than Chaser. He’s been hurt for a while now and they just need to shut him down until he’s healthy.

    An idea for JP over the summer if a decent winger is not for sale. Maybe deal him for an established young backup goalie like Georgiev?

  149. flyfish1168 says:

    Reja:
    After the Flames loss in OT I didn’t think the Oilers had enough nasty in their line-up to slow down the cheap shot artist on the Flames holy smokes they were like a pack of Wolves last night everyone involved. Gagnergoing at Gio like a madman and Chases Glenn Anderson’s stick to Magiapane face, that was pure filth. Can’t wait for the Playoffs still hope Holland adds a 3C or forward with a dark side.

    We need another Zack or two

  150. JimmyV1965 says:

    digger50: Holland would never have picked Broberg if his head wasn’t up his ass. There were much better players available, particularly for this club.,If we are lucky Broberg is another Nurse without physicality.

    Lol.

    Something something…Yamamoto critics say hi. Welcome to the club.

  151. fishman says:

    Cheifs win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  152. Munny says:

    digger50: Broberg right now has excellent skating with questionable hockey IQ. His offence is close to Klefbom, a bit behind.

    Wasn’t the latest report on his Hockey IQ favourable? Post-WJC. that is. They were using him ways that requires intelligence. I recall reading very good things, but then, I’m a fan of the player, maybe I have it wrong.

    I think the Broberg pick may have something to do with Broberg’s floor potentIal. He has decent upside, but with his combination of size and skating. he’s an absolute lock to be at minimum a mid-roster player.

    I think it may also have a lot to do with Nurse’s next contract…

  153. godot10 says:

    Munny:

    I think it may also have a lot to do with Nurse’s next contract…

    You mean Klefbom’s next contract. Klefbom will be 30 in 3.5 years when his contract expires.

    • Genjutsu says:

      Yep and with his heavy mins, injury history, likely high price point and the teams certain cap constraints it would be prudent to have an internal replacement.

      He may not turn out to be a true 1LD. However with Nurse likely signed long term this summer and Bouchard near certainly handling 1PP in a 4F 1D set he really doesn’t have to be a #1D

  154. godot10 says:

    Broberg was the youngest defensemen on the Swedish World Junior team, with all of them high draft picks, and yet it was Broberg was was asked to fill a shutdown role on his offside.

    In half a season, he has now moved into the top 4 on his Swedish team, if I understood SwedishPoster’s last report correctly.

  155. who says:

    Munny: Wasn’t the latest report on his Hockey IQ favourable?Post-WJC. that is.They were using him ways that requires intelligence. I recall reading very good things, but then, I’m a fan of the player, maybe I have it wrong.

    I think the Broberg pick may have something to do with Broberg’s floor potentIal.He has decent upside, but with his combination of size and skating. he’s an absolute lock to be at minimum a mid-roster player.

    I think it may also have a lot to do with Nurse’s next contract…

    Broberg was an interesting pick.
    The year before the Oilers picked Bouchard to fill a clear area of need. I would have been happy with either Bouchard or Dobson, but at least they picked one of them.
    Broberg was added to a position of depth in the organization. I have to believe Holland felt he was a slam dunk at 8OV.

  156. Munny says:

    Goal 1: Yamamoto cellies in mock-Rittich fashion, arms spread wide, accepting the glory, like he’s a WWF wrestler… yet a 5’7′ rook in the Flames barn.

    Goal 2: The play that creates the goal is made by McDavid taking Brodie’s body and squeezing out the defender. The plays on the puck are solely made by Archie and Kassian, sans McDeity. (Also indicates these two should be able to score together on another line).

    Goal 3: McDavid cellies like he interviews. Stoic, Laconic, Waiting-for-a-bigger-stage. Kassian parked on the doorstep contributed to how Rittich played the shot.

    Goal 4: B2B McDeities. Louie was right about using his wrists and stick blade to hide his shot. Subtle AF. Like his cellies…

    Insert: Lindholm goal… Smith’s good for a puck-playing, or belly-flop goal almost once a game. Fosbury was the mentor for this one.

    Goal 5: It’s a Drai Heat… Since the AS Break, Drai’s feet have been as light as I’ve ever seen. Unholy feet. Incredibly agile for a big man. To the girl out there who’s responsible, you have my undying gratitude for the bounce in his step. I hope you and him sign long term.

    Goal 6: Seeing-eye-single RBI, glad to see it come off Caleb’s bat. The team is building its depth as we speak. Pressure to this point in the second has been diamond-worthy.

    Goal 7: Oh my Gord, there’s a goal 7 and we’re playing the Antichirists? Sweet Baby Jesus, this should be a golden rule. Puck perfectly placed by Young Gamgee on the shot.

    Goal 8: And the game supplies the only thing it’s missing… a penalty shot. Haas embarrasses Rittich, bookending Yamamoto’s Goal 1… and we have the most complete game, on every level, played by the Oilers over the Phlegms in a very long time.

    Swagger, it’s a thing.

  157. slopitch says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Sam won the life lottery.

    Not only has he made ~36MM in his NHL career, he married an attractive woman who became a medical doctor and whose family”s money makes Sam’s look like change found in the couch.

    She’s from Edmonton and I think Sam would sign fairly cheap to stay here.

    I dont know many dentists who make 36m in their career 😉

    Agree though. Sam lucked out. Rachel’s a gem. He’s also an NHL player. Thats life lottery alone.

  158. Munny says:

    who: Broberg was an interesting pick.
    The year before the Oilers picked Bouchard to fill a clear area of need. I would have been happy with either Bouchard or Dobson, but at least they picked one of them.
    Broberg was added to a position of depth in the organization. I have to believe Holland felt he was a slam dunk at 8OV.

    That’s kind of the point. Broberg is an absolute slam dunk to be a quality NHLer, likely a 2 or a 3. He’s not a slam dunk to be a Karlsson or a Letang, but he does have that ceiling.

    We have depth, but for eg. Samorukov’s chances of being as good a Dman, while certainly non-zero, are nowhere near as good.

    I can totally understand your point. But you can’t draft for need. If you think Broberg’s more likely to be a more useful defenseman than Zegras a forward, you draft the defenseman. I think the pick is somewhat risk-averse, sure, but not enough so that it deserves heavy criticism. The kid’s a real nice player.

  159. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Munny: That’s kind of the point. Broberg is an absolute slam dunk to be a quality NHLer, likely a 2 or a 3.He’s not a slam dunk to be a Karlsson or a Letang, but he does have that ceiling.

    We have depth, but for eg. Samorukov’s chances of being as good a Dman, while certainly non-zero, are nowhere near as good.

    I can totally understand your point.But you can’t draft for need.If you think Broberg’s more likely to be a more useful defenseman than Zegras a forward, you draft the defenseman.I think the pick is somewhat risk-averse, sure, but not enough so that it deserves heavy criticism.The kid’s a real nice player.

    Holland must have seen Bro as BPA, but strategically they aren’t deep enough anywhere else to deal from.

    They can deal an NHL ready or less developed covered D and not miss a beat, and also D have more value than forwards unless they are definitely elite.

  160. OriginalPouzar says:

    digger50: I think you lead the way OP on illogical conclusions.

    I think I generally provide basis for my conclusions.

    Not sure the response above actually leads to a discussion on the hockey-related substance but, to me, provides more evidence of non-evidence for the position taken and it just been a statement without defence that may come true but is not determinable for years.

  161. rickithebear says:

    MacT:
    GM: hired April 15 2013
    Drafted Nurse, Draisaitl, Lagesson
    Traded for Pit #16 (was going to take Barzal)
    Won Mcdavid in the Lottery!
    Fired as GM April 24, 2015

    MacT & Bucky signed Benning, Caggulia.
    These are facts or stated the Org.

    Teams with the only RB with 90+ yds and 4.5+ yd/carry win 90% of playoff games.
    Unless QB has a Poor passing TD: Int ratio (1:1 or less)

    Congrats to the real MVP.
    D. Williams Scorer of the Ginal 2 TDs.
    Teams were

  162. rickithebear says:

    K. Holland likes to mature his Players.
    Per first 35+gm season in Detroit for most players.

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