Sailing

by Lowetide

The first time “Swedish Poster” graced the pages of Lowetide came on October 28, 2014. He began his verbal with an endearing sentence: “Hello Lowetide. Long time lurker. First time poster. Hi mom!” before embarking on some sage advice about one Viktor Fasth. Reading, reacting, learning and interacting with him has been a thoroughly enjoyable experience since. Now about that sage advice.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, check it out here.

  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘They were looking outside the box’: Oilers’ distinctive third jerseys still stand out
  • New Lowetide: If Oilers draft for skill, Seth Jarvis likely to be best available
  • New Jonathan Willis and Lowetide: Should the Oilers pursue Taylor Hall this summer?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman and Jonathan Willis: The results are in: How you voted in our inaugural Oilers fan survey
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: How the Oilers are preparing for an NHL draft in June
  • Jonathan Willis: How Gaetan Haas, Joakim Nygard and Riley Sheahan draw calls that lead to goals
  • James Mirtle: Ranking every NHL team’s salary cap situation, from best to worst
  • Lowetide: Can the Oilers find Connor McDavid’s ideal winger this summer?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: The two coaches who had the biggest influence on Dave Tippett
  • Jonathan Willis: The 5 reasons why the Oilers re-signed Gaetan Haas
  • Jonathan Willis: Can (and should) the Oilers trade Kris Russell?
  • Jonathan Willis: How Edmonton could have left 2010 draft with both Taylor Hall and Ryan Johansen
  • Lowetide: Kailer Yamamoto’s NHL comparables offer Oilers fans hope for the future
  • Lowetide: Top 20 prospect update: A lot of movement and some impressive graduations
  • Lowetide: Mavrik Bourque a quality option for the Oilers in the draft
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Inside the franchise-altering decision to pick Leon Draisaitl over Sam Bennett
  • Jonathan Willis and Lowetide: Discount forward options the Oilers could pursue in free agency
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘Oh my God, Edmonton’s picking first’: An oral history of the 2015 NHL draft lottery
  • Lowetide: Why Jan Mysak could be a value pick for the Oilers at the 2020 Draft

On April 29, 2016 I published a post called What can we expect from the 2016 draft? and included a mock draft that listed Filip Berglund. I had him going to Edmonton at No. 62 overall, after Patrik Laine and Nathan Bastian had been chosen. About 90 minutes after I posted, Swedish Poster responded to the Berglund inclusion:

Just curious LT, how’d you pick up the name Filip Berglund? I’ll post my opinion on some of this years draftees out of Sweden sometime during the weekend and Berglund is one of the guys I’m high on but since he’s flying somewhat under the radar I just wonder how you heard of him. Very interesting player, offensively gifted kid, RHD, good size, great skater. Overager, was draft eligible 2015, who missed a big chunk of his draft -1 season due to a broken arm I think it was so last year was sort of a getting back on track year but this season he’s looked great. Doubt he’ll go as high as 62 though I personally wouldn’t mind him much there. However I think you can hold your cards until the fifth rd or so.

Ten minutes later (I was much better at responding back then) I wrote “I ran some equivalencies and he showed well. I am working on my Oilers and Sweden draft post and he looked good for sure.” On April 30, 2016 I listed my Top 100 for 2016 and ranked Bergund No. 60. I had nothing but math to guide me, but that’s all my list employs every year (along with making sure players have 10 fingers and toes).

On May 4, 2016, Swedish Poster filled in all the blanks that math could not provide. Words and music by Swedish Poster (with some editing):

Filip Berglund, RHD, Skellefteå, has already been discussed a bit on this site. He’s a big kid at 6’3 and already past 200 pounds. He’s an overager, turns 19 in a few days. His draft year was sort of a comeback year after missing a lot of time the previous two seasons due to a broken arm or maybe it was a leg. This year he was up to speed and delivered one hell of a season offensively nearly hitting PPG. As is usually the case with productive D the majority of the points came on the PP where his big shot from the blue line was full value. He scored at nearly a goal per game and a lot was due to his great shot.

He got better and better as the season rolled along, one thing I like to look at for guys in Swedish juniors is how they produce in the Superelite top 10 part of the season. What that means is after Christmas the top 5 teams of the northern and southern divisions are put together into one 10 team league where they play for the playoff spots.

It’s interesting because the level of play goes up and there are fewer teams to pad your stats against. In that segment of the year he scored 1.31 PPG over 16 games. For a D that’s pretty amazing. Small sample obviously but combined with his overall scoring the whole year it paints a very flattering picture offensively.

I think the reason he doesn’t come with more hype is partly because he’s an overager who’s had an upward trajectory all season so he’s really come along the last few months. Having said that he’s still raw and a bit of a project going forward.

As I mentioned he got into a handful of games with the men’s team and looked really good, he should be able to get a regular spot next season though Skellefteå is a tough team to crack. They have two D on the swedish WHC squad plus Alexander Urbom and Tim Heed who I’d argue are both better than the guys who made the swedish squad and also Anaheim 2014 2nd rounder Marcus Pettersson among others.

All in all a prospect I like a lot, high risk high reward kind of guy but on a very nice trajectory and with a lot of upside.

I guess he’ll end up in the mid-late rounds though if one of the teams who put a lot of trust in their swedish scouts, Nashville, Toronto, Detroit, has had a lot of good viewings I think he could go earlier.

NHL teams do love their big guys who can skate, and when you add those offensive numbers I could certainly see some team fall in love with him enough to grab him much earlier. He ticks off a lot of boxes of qualities the Oilers are in need of that’s for sure.

Swedish Poster had him fifth round, I had him No. 61 on my final list, suspect we can call it square. I enjoyed these years of monitoring Berglund’s progress, reading Swedish Poster’s verbal and finally seeing the young man sign with the Oilers. We all got to share in Berglund’s post-draft journey and hopefully, one day, get a chance to see him on NHL ice in Edmonton. An awesome journey for all. Thanks, Swedish Poster! You have added so much to our community.

Berglund played 2+ minutes per game on each special team this season, making him a complete player in the SHL. Skelleftea finished 92-84 at even strength this season (if my math is correct), Jonathan Pudas and Arvid Lundberg were the big even strength minutes munchers (over 17 minutes at even strength and +12 and +14 goal differential respectively). After that Berglund and a couple of others (Niclas Burstrom and Petter Granburg) made up the next group of blue. Mike Zanier (SHL media analyst) talks about Berglund and other prospects of interest to Oilers fans in a conversation with Jonathan Willis and me here. Worth the listen, great insight).

50-MAN LIST (40 plus a slide)

Oilers now have 13 defensemen who will likely play in North America (rfa’s are never certainties) and two who are likely to play in Europe (plans change). The Condors have AHL deals for Vincent Deslauriers and Janis Janks, meaning Holland has a full boat should he sign Bear, Benning, Lagesson and Day as rfa’s.

POSSIBLE CONDORS 2020-21

James Hamblin turned 21 the other day, scored 109 goals in his final four WHL seasons. He’s a talented player, that’s a nice get for the farm. How many forwards on this list have more skill than Hamblin?

Harvest Moon 2012

The Edmonton Oilers drafted another elite offensive talent this weekend, another outstanding teenager with a magnificent future. Old Oiler fans like me are reminded of the fab four who arrived 30+ years ago and cut through the NHL for a decade. Young Oiler fans can look forward to better days and perhaps their first Stanley in memory.

One thing we all share: Oiler fans have had enough of looking forward to draft day as climax to each season. Enough. This organization’s upper management should move up or move on.

#1 overall: R Nail Yakupov. Ridiculous talent combined with swagger and attitude. Yakupov has great personality and should give Oiler fans a lot to cheer for on and off the ice. Perhaps this young Russian can win the Calder trophy for a franchise that still hasn’t been honored with the trophy. NHLE 82, 18-22-40.

#32 overall: L Mitchell Moroz. Coke Machine selection that takes Oiler fans back to the days of Kevin Prendergast, Moroz was taken when their was more skill on the board. The organization may be familiar with him because he’s an Oil King, and his TOI ranged from 4th to 2nd line during the season. NHLE 82, 6-3-9.

#63 overall:F Jujhar Khaira.Another big forward (6.03, 195) with room to grow, he played in the BCJHL and Redline suggests he was underscouted. Quoting RLR: this kid is big, mean, aggressive, nasty, and guess what, he can score too. NHLE 82, 6-11-17.

#91 overall: L Daniil Zharkov. The second most famous prospect Edmonton drafted this weekend, Zharkov is also Russian and another strong personality. At 6.03, 200 he fits the Coke Machine description (or will) but has enough skill to be considered a good hockey player. NHLE 82, 11-7-18.

#93 overall: D Erik Gustafsson. Very interesting player, he’s 20 years old and one imagines the Oilers might bring him over right away for OKC. Gustafsson’s size (6.0, 176) runs out of time with the Coke Machine theme of this season’s draft. NHLE 82, 5-6-11.

#123 overall: D Joey Laleggia. This has the best chance to be a depth gem along the lines of Gernat and Rieder. Corey Pronman’s take: He’s a good skater with a great offensive mind who would be a nice shot in the dark pick in the mid-rounds due to his notable offensive upside. He flashes high-end hockey sense with his quick game processing and he’s really effective moving the puck out of his own end and controlling the blue line on the power play.NHLE 82, 9-21-30.

#153 overall: R John McCarron. The third straight 1992-born player, he’s a huge winger (6.03, 215) with plenty of toughness and a mean streak. McCarron fits the Coke Machine label perfectly. NHLE 82, 6-12-18.

NHLE’S over the past 2 drafts (draft seasons)

FORWARDS

  1. R Nail Yakupov 18-22-40
  2. C Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 11-27-38
  3. C Tobias Rieder 9-10-19
  4. L Daniil Zharkov 11-7-18
  5. R John McCarron 6-12-18 (’92)
  6. F Jujhar Khaira 6-11-17
  7. L Mitch Moroz 6-3-9
  8. C Travis Ewanyk 5-4-9

DEFENSE

  1. Joey Laleggia 9-21-30 (’92)
  2. Erik Gustafsson 5-6-11 (’92)
  3. David Musil 2-8-10
  4. Dillon Simpson 2-7-9
  5. Oscar Klefbom 3-3-6

SUMMARY

The highlight of this draft is Nail Yakupov. Winning the lottery allowed the Oilers to draft the best player available and gives the club a ridiculous cluster of talent up front.

The pick at 32 was somewhat disappointing. The players we talked about this morning were available at that number. My picks were Pontus Aberg, Dalton Thrower and Matt Finn–you may have had other names.

I was initially unimpressed with the Khaira pick but after reading more he’s at least worthy of being “in the range” of his selection. The Oilers clearly spent the day drafting for need and I think this player gives them their best chance of getting that big forward who can play with real skill.

I like the Zharkov pick. In a draft filled with flags and frayed corners, I think the player covers the number.

The three 20 year olds are interesting but their window of opportunity is limited.

Laleggia’s numbers are impressive and I’ll spend a little time over the next few days having a longer look. Could he come out right away?

We don’t know enough about Gustafsson to make the call.

I have no quarrel with the last pick, he’s a lottery ticket and hell maybe it cashes.

I think Oiler fans would have felt a lot better about this draft if the club had drafted (say) Matt Finn at 32. I think the initial shock of the Moroz selection may have clouded our judgement of the rest of the group and suspect we’ll find some things to like about Khaira, Zharkov and Laleggia in the coming days.

I think the Oilers probably wanted to trade into round 1 and grab Samuelsson, and when that wasn’t available checked down to their next Coke Machine. It might have been Sutter, but it was Moroz. Might be something about inside knowledge or maybe they saw his progress October to May and felt he was the better man.

Finally, a note on the scouting staff and Stu MacGregor. I don’t think their draft was a strong one, as they clearly went after “need” as opposed to “best player available.” Although the overall quality of the draft was not strong, the pick at #32 meant they were passing on too much talent by taking Moroz. The scouting staff better be right, or this pick will be remembered for a long time.

NOTES FROM THE FUTURE

What a mess you were, 2012 draft! Nail Yakupov averaged 15-17-32 per 82 NHL games during his career in the league but didn’t develop in some important areas. He was the ultimate example of one year’s experience five times, and I do believe the Oilers of this era were ill-suited to bring him along. A team that banished a useful veteran to the farm for words were unable to negotiate the rapids of development with an eager, sensitive, stubborn Russian winger. Mostly, these years later, the word I associate with Yakupov is sad. Sad it didn’t work out, sad he couldn’t help, sad his NHL career will be viewed as a failure. A dumb, ridiculous faceoff injury contributed to the career arc. A damn shame.

Mitchell Moroz was a solid checking WHL winger, chosen too soon by an organization that could have used a mathlete feeding information to the general manager and scouting director. Consider the NHLE’s before and after Moroz: Tanner Pearson (37), Mitch Moroz (9), Sebastian Collberg (16.6).

The rest of the draft produced two NHL players, fans can’t be upset with 2012’s back end. This brings to an end our look back at harvest moons, hope you enjoyed it. Thanks for reading.

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rickithebear

My father was moved to a facility for specific to final stages of dimesias.
We’re they have reverted to an infant status.
It is hard to think of my fathers brain ( one of the greatest thinkers of the 20th century: Arrow, Appollo, landsat, Seasat, exocet,….) that was offered the head of European Space agency Orbit assets in the 70’s has digressed to that.
Loved helping dad in garden 1/2 of a pie shaped lot.

With all that has gone on.
Wife wanted garden potential.
But she knows me.
Go big.

Built frames for my version of 6 foot veg trug raised beds.
33” x 12’ to fit in the 2 – 8 x 12 green house frames for back yard.
Goes in the 14’ x 24’ area that used to be slides & swing.
All studs and rails are cut from 2 x 8 – 8’ and 12’ ripped into 5 – approx 1.5 x1.375
4 in greenhouses.
2 along garage wall.
23-24 cubic ft per

Looked at types of plants companions the ph level of veg groups.
Read up on garden and bed mixes.
A ratio of commercial peat/compost/lime/worm castings/perlite.

Planted 150 seedlings in peat pucks.
varied groups of 4 of each veg.
14 days in 7 grew.
Nightshades ( tomatoes), Cucumbers
Shit!
Think I drowned them.

Reseeded
The brassicas, Allium and leafy greens, 3 days ago.
77 of 84 have pushed thru.
One the 3 chards and spinach did not push thru.
Dad used to make this awesome salad,
Chard, beet tops, spinach, endive, scallions, with a warm garlic, buttermilk dressing.
It was great and I hate buttermilk.

Anyhow!

Galchenyuks 16 yr age NHLE said he was the North American choice.
My memory is not good anymore.
Cannot remember if I gave into the arguments for Nail.
When you go to hockey pb 2012 draft and click points.

Forsberg pick #11 Washington 458gm 166g 353 pt
Galchenyuk pick #3 MTL 549gm 135g 320 pt
T. Teravainen pick #18 CHI 428 gm 91g 289 pt
Hertl pick #17 SJS 428 gm 132g 280 pt
Pearson pick #30 LAK 457gm 108G 215 pt

7 of the top 15 point getters are Dmen.
#15 player (#8 fwd)
Athanasiou 303gm 84g 156pt

VanIsleOil

Harpers Hair: Gabriola Island garlic is ubiquitous here and available year round at farmers markets.

Yes, Ken the garlic man is an institution on the Island. He has been doing all the farmers markets for years. It is flavour packed garlic!

http://blog.dongenova.com/island-artisans-gabriola-gourmet-garlic/

Harpers Hair

pts2pndr: All garlic not being equal, what garlic do you find preferential? My go to is generally a Russian blue. I always stay away from Chinese garlic due lack flavour and reported heavy metal content. I now grow my own Russian garlic and another one called Music. The Music has a more mellow flavor.

Gabriola Island garlic is ubiquitous here and available year round at farmers markets.

pts2pndr

Harpers Hair:
So yesterday I posted a recipe for Garlic Parmesan Cream Sauce which we made to accompany some rib eye steaks.

However, I went a bit rogue while preparing the sauce and thought I would update the recipe since both I and Mrs. Hair agree it was simply the best sauce of any kind that either of us have ever experienced.

2 Tbsp oil

1 Tbsp butter

6 cloves garlic, minced

1 Tbsp flour

1 c buttermilk

1/2 cup chicken or beef broth, for whichever meat you’re serving the sauce with

salt & cracked black pepper to taste

1 tsp smoked paprika

1/2 c fresh grated parmesan

2 oz cream cheese

This varies from the original in that I used buttermilk instead of heavy cream, upped the garlic quotient tosix cloves minced and then added the smoked paprika which gave the final product a bit of bite on the tongue.

It was fabulous as we served it over the steak and the accompanying prawns.

We have about half the original sauce left which we plan to use on chicken and pasta tomorrow.

Highly recommend this.

All garlic not being equal, what garlic do you find preferential? My go to is generally a Russian blue. I always stay away from Chinese garlic due lack flavour and reported heavy metal content. I now grow my own Russian garlic and another one called Music. The Music has a more mellow flavor.

jp

Harpers Hair: There is one other option that might inhibit trades but not prevent them.
That would involve any traded player being ineligible for the remainder of the season (if it’s played).

That’s absolutely possible.

OriginalPouzar:
That’s similar to how it is right now.

The Oilers could trade Matt Benning to the Penguins at any time – the NHL trade deadline does not actually prohibit trades after its expiry, but is prohibits eligibility of the traded player to play in the playoffs.

This is also true, but in any other season there’s really no pressure point to making a trade between the deadline and end of the season. There’s still time to do those things after the games wrap up but before the picks get made.

In this season’s June draft scenario there would be motivation by many teams to make those moves that don’t normally happen. One would think those would overwhelmingly be non-playoff teams though, and that would create another set of problems. As defmn says, I think it’s an unlikely scenario.

defmn

Harpers Hair: There is one other option that might inhibit trades but not prevent them.

That would involve any traded player being ineligible for the remainder of the season (if it’s played).

For example, Matt Benning is traded to Pittsburgh for a third round pick.

He can’t play for the Oilers this season and can’t play for Pittsburgh until next season.

The Oilers would have to weigh how much they want to move him and how much they want that pick.

That is possible while probably being even less attractive to teams. As we have all acknowledged there doesn’t seem to be a good answer so it is a matter of choosing from less than perfect solutions.

Those will always be judgement calls that people will see differently.

OriginalPouzar

That’s similar to how it is right now.

The Oilers could trade Matt Benning to the Penguins at any time – the NHL trade deadline does not actually prohibit trades after its expiry, but is prohibits eligibility of the traded player to play in the playoffs.

Harpers Hair

jp: Sounds like you two were good counterbalances for each other.

I guess I’m looking at it more like…

Do the NHL/sponsors want a draft to happen in June? Yes

Do the teams want to be able to make trades at the draft? Yes

Do teams want to allow newly acquired players to continue playing for their old teams? No

Do teams want players they’re counting on for playoff contributions to (potentially) find out they’ve already been traded? No

(more complicated is what happens if an injury occurs and the treatment/recovery time recommended by the “former” team is questioned, for instance. Is that risk worth taking?)

My take is based on the balance of these issues, which I think tips towards not allowing trades involving active players. But of course that’s just my reading of the situation and opinion on the importance of the various factors.

There is one other option that might inhibit trades but not prevent them.

That would involve any traded player being ineligible for the remainder of the season (if it’s played).

For example, Matt Benning is traded to Pittsburgh for a third round pick.

He can’t play for the Oilers this season and can’t play for Pittsburgh until next season.

The Oilers would have to weigh how much they want to move him and how much they want that pick.

jp

defmn: Fair enough. I don’t understand the thinking but it seems to be the way others look at it. In my working life I ran start ups to take public for venture capitalists. There were rarely ‘good answers’ as to what to do. It was more about picking the best of a bad lot kind of decision making.

Do the teams want to be able to make trades at the draft? Yes or no?

If ‘no’ is the answer fine. If ‘yes’ is the answer how else can it be done?

If the answer is ‘yes’ and you don’t have a better answer then the less than perfect answer becomes the default.

My main employee (and partner) was a lawyer. His default in situations like this was always ‘no’ because the answer was never ‘good’.But doing nothing is rarely a good answer either.

Sounds like you two were good counterbalances for each other.

I guess I’m looking at it more like…

Do the NHL/sponsors want a draft to happen in June? Yes

Do the teams want to be able to make trades at the draft? Yes

Do teams want to allow newly acquired players to continue playing for their old teams? No

Do teams want players they’re counting on for playoff contributions to (potentially) find out they’ve already been traded? No

(more complicated is what happens if an injury occurs and the treatment/recovery time recommended by the “former” team is questioned, for instance. Is that risk worth taking?)

My take is based on the balance of these issues, which I think tips towards not allowing trades involving active players. But of course that’s just my reading of the situation and opinion on the importance of the various factors.

jp

defmn: This works for me. I just offered an answer as to how they could make trades because I think a lot of teams are screwed by the cap if they can’t and draft picks work best for them.

Harpers Hair: On the other hand, a lack of trades of picks for players really hits some teams very hard.

For example Montreal has 12 picks they accumulated in order to wheel and deal.

I’m pretty sure they don’t want 12 new prospects in their system all at once.

These are both good points. I still don’t see players continuing to play for teams after being traded, but for sure none of the scenarios is perfect.

defmn

Harpers Hair: On the other hand, a lack of trades of picks for players really hits some teams very hard.

For example Montreal has 12 picks they accumulated in order to wheel and deal.

I’m pretty sure they don’t want 12 new prospects in their system all at once.

Yup. Works from both ends. This is why I made the proposal I did. No, it is not perfect. If there is a better idea I assure you I am not married to this one. It’s just the best I could come up with.

Harpers Hair

defmn: This works for me. I just offered an answer as to how they could make trades because I think a lot of teams are screwed by the cap if they can’t and draft picks work best for them.

On the other hand, a lack of trades of picks for players really hits some teams very hard.

For example Montreal has 12 picks they accumulated in order to wheel and deal.

I’m pretty sure they don’t want 12 new prospects in their system all at once.

defmn

jp: Even if some/most were able to keep this stuff under wraps I feel like there would be leaks from some teams. And I don’t think it would be too great to have your 2LW knowing he’s been a cap dump for draft picks while you’re trying to win the conference final, as an example.

I agree trades are an important part of the draft but don’t see a particularly major issue with active players being exempt from moves for this year. It seems that the league is heading that direction and I think that’s likely the easiest and least disruptive course from my POV.

This works for me. I just offered an answer as to how they could make trades because I think a lot of teams are screwed by the cap if they can’t and draft picks work best for them.

defmn

jp: I agree with OP on this one. I don’t think future consideration trades typically name the precise consideration, though I could be wrong. And teams aren’t going to want acquired players to continue playing for another team after paying assets for them.

Fair enough. I don’t understand the thinking but it seems to be the way others look at it. In my working life I ran start ups to take public for venture capitalists. There were rarely ‘good answers’ as to what to do. It was more about picking the best of a bad lot kind of decision making.

Do the teams want to be able to make trades at the draft? Yes or no?

If ‘no’ is the answer fine. If ‘yes’ is the answer how else can it be done?

If the answer is ‘yes’ and you don’t have a better answer then the less than perfect answer becomes the default.

My main employee (and partner) was a lawyer. His default in situations like this was always ‘no’ because the answer was never ‘good’. But doing nothing is rarely a good answer either.

jp

defmn: Leaks would definitely be an issue as I mentioned when I first proposed this.

I know how I would handle it as a GM but it would be tricky.That said there might not be a good solution this summer. Every idea will have flaws. Cancelling the draft and going to age 19 would be another idea but I am not convinced that wouldn’t result in a series of lawsuits as threatened the last time that was proposed.

Even if some/most were able to keep this stuff under wraps I feel like there would be leaks from some teams. And I don’t think it would be too great to have your 2LW knowing he’s been a cap dump for draft picks while you’re trying to win the conference final, as an example.

I agree trades are an important part of the draft but don’t see a particularly major issue with active players being exempt from moves for this year. It seems that the league is heading that direction and I think that’s likely the easiest and least disruptive course from my POV.

Glovjuice

Not big on adding sauce to a dry aged rib eye. Try this. It’s blown a few people away over the years (people are mindbended that it has this mushroom when they taste it – umami explosion):

1.5 teaspoons – 1 tablespoon powdered dried portabella or porcini mushroom using a mortar and pestle (labour of love and do under a vent hood)
0.25-0.5 teaspoons coarse salt
0.25-0.5 teaspoons garlic powder
0.25-0.5 teaspoons onion powder
0.25 teaspoons coarse black pepper or white pepper (both good but we prefer white)
0.5 -75 teaspoons dried rosemary (then ground to powder with mortar and pestle)

Rub two steaks and push into meat with a spoon and let sit for 15-30 minutes.

Drizzle with good olive oil on each side of steaks and grill.

Good.

jp

defmn: I don’t understand this objection at all OP. Can you explain why you think that is a problem? Future consideration trades have existed forever.

I agree with OP on this one. I don’t think future consideration trades typically name the precise consideration, though I could be wrong. And teams aren’t going to want acquired players to continue playing for another team after paying assets for them.

OriginalPouzar

When was the last time you heard “for a player to be named later” in an NHL trade?

Either way, that’s not really what you are suggesting. You are suggesting a trade to consumated which includes at least one current NHL player – the active player that got traded simply wouldn’t be made public but the trade parameters are set.

I cannot foresee a team trading a draft pick (say a 2nd round pick) for an active player (say Matt Benning) and then permitted that player (Matt Benning) to continue playing for the other team. What if Benning gets hurt?

Even if they were to do “future considerations”, that is, not name the actual trade return – I can’t imagine a team trading a material asset like a top 4 round pick for “future considerations”.

Sorry man, I just don’t see this working – teams simply won’t allow acquired players to continue to play for another organization and “future considerations” wouldn’t be something any GM would trade any real asset for.

In my opinion.

defmn

OriginalPouzar: I would reckon that the bigger issue would be teams not trading for players that would continue playing for their original teams.

I don’t understand this objection at all OP. Can you explain why you think that is a problem? Future consideration trades have existed forever.

OriginalPouzar

jp: Also leaked trades. That would be the main issue IMO.

I would reckon that the bigger issue would be teams not trading for players that would continue playing for their original teams.

defmn

jp: Also leaked trades. That would be the main issue IMO.

Leaks would definitely be an issue as I mentioned when I first proposed this.

I know how I would handle it as a GM but it would be tricky. That said there might not be a good solution this summer. Every idea will have flaws. Cancelling the draft and going to age 19 would be another idea but I am not convinced that wouldn’t result in a series of lawsuits as threatened the last time that was proposed.

OriginalPouzar

godot10: I don’t think there is video evidence of McDavid making a fool out of Lindholm.Rielly just isn’t very good defensively.

That’s really odd – bringing up one single play to provide evidence of a player not being good at something. I’m sure there are videos of Lidholm getting beat by lesser players than MacDavid……

With that said, for sure, I agree, Lindholm is much better defensively than Riley but, of course, the gap in favor of Riley offensively is just as large.

Of course, none of this has anything to do with the post you were responding to which was a conversation regarding Burke’s position that he had Riley at #1 on draft day.

jp

jake70:
Well, a bitpositive Covid-19 news…..we have NO active Covid-19 cases here in NB.14th straight day with zero positives confirmed, no deaths, noone in hospital, all 118 recovered. Lots of reasons for this, with some dumb luck certainly a contributor,but it can be done….woohoo.Now, about those neutral sites being considered for NHL play…;-)

Cool to hear, we’ll done for NB!

jp

defmn: Actually I think there are more teams would be willing to accept a June draft with a mechanism for trades than a June draft that excluded the possibiltiy.

The only downside is long term injury before the trade is consummated and that can happen in TC before the season even starts just as easily as during a playoff run that only lasts 4-7 games for half the guys involved.

Also leaked trades. That would be the main issue IMO.

jp

RonnieB:
Pittsburgh will be hurting for right side D next season, especially if they lose Schultz to free agency.
I think a Benning for Casey DeSmith off-seasontrade would work for both teams. Who says no ?

That’s a solid idea.

OriginalPouzar

godot10: Tikkanen, Kurri, Messier, and Anderson fulfill the requirement of a checking line.They were far better defensively than MacT and Buchberger.

TSN should be mocked to their idiocracy.

That line does not fulfill the criteria put out by TSN – yes, guys like Kurri were plus defensive players but aren’t considered checkers in the realm of the criteria put out by TSN.

No, they should not be mocked – “all time” lists have been made over and over again. TSN put some twists in their criteria to be a bit novel.

If you don’t like their criteria, don’t play their game. If anything, a person voluntarily trying to get involved in a game while not liking the game, well, that’s where the issue lies.

Noone is stopping you from creating discussion on a different set of criteria.

OriginalPouzar

defmn: Actually I think there are more teams would be willing to accept a June draft with a mechanism for trades than a June draft that excluded the possibiltiy.

The only downside is long term injury before the trade is consummated and that can happen in TC before the season even starts just as easily as during a playoff run that only lasts 4-7 games for half the guys involved.

Outside the box OP. This draft is not going to be like any other draft.

Its outside the box, I just don’t think its reasonable in practice.

I don’t see a team trading, lets say, a 2nd round pick for Matt Benning and then having the Oilers make the 2nd round pick and have Benning play for them in a 2019/20 re-start.

Don’t see that been a viable type of arrangement let alone with more “impact” players than Matt Benning.

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In any even, the league has already addressed the issue of trading – they researched the trade over the last number of year and advised that about half of them would have been able to happen (draft pick and non-roster player type trades).

They are clearly ready for this draft not having regular type transactions with current players.

OriginalPouzar

RonnieB:
Pittsburgh will be hurting for right side D next season, especially if they lose Schultz to free agency.
I think a Benning for Casey DeSmith off-seasontrade would work for both teams. Who says no ?

DeSmith is an off-season target of mine.

The goalie trade market is always tough to asses – they generally aren’t expensive in trades.

If Benning does go in a trade for a goalie, a forward or a draft pick then its incumbent that Holland does sign a RD and, in that case, I would be OK with Mike Green (as he’d be slotted in as 3RD and only 2RD as an injury replacement) but, again, Green’s cost is an issue in my mind. I wouldn’t sign him for any more than $2M per and I have a feeling he’ll “want” a couple of years.

OriginalPouzar

Harpers Hair: Problem is, everyday that Larsson gets closer to free agency, his value drops.

Sure, his trade value drops but I’m posting about his value to the Oilers and the Oilers’ success in the short term, that is, next season.

As a poster the constantly is “telling us” that the Oilers need to trade picks for players and make other similar “win now” moves, one would think next year’s team takes priority over Larsson’s diminishing trade value.

I am fine with walking Larsson to free agency as, with current organizational depth, he is important to success next season.

If he walks in 2021, so be it, $4M in cap space is an asset. Its not ideal asset management but a strong season from Larsson next year would go a long ways to team success.

Re-signing the player is also an option – it would be a pay cut but Larsson may be amenable. It seems he likes it in Edmonton (but I’m not in his head, of course).

Victoria Oil

jake70:
Well, a bitpositive Covid-19 news…..we have NO active Covid-19 cases here in NB.14th straight day with zero positives confirmed, no deaths, noone in hospital, all 118 recovered. Lots of reasons for this, with some dumb luck certainly a contributor,but it can be done….woohoo.Now, about those neutral sites being considered for NHL play…;-)

Thanks for the update Jake. I’ve been following the provincial stats closely and I find it astonishing that NB has zero official active cases while the province next door has over 20,000. Has NB done anything unique to accomplish this or have they been lucky or is it a bit of both? Also, has NB made significant moves to re-open? I would assume the locals must be getting restless given the circumstances.

godot10

OriginalPouzar: Potentially – Forsberg and Riley are both in that conversation.

With that said, again, two posts in a row with strong man arguments – your point is fine and valid but nothing to do with the conversation (Burke’s position on who was #1 on his list at the time).

I don’t think there is video evidence of McDavid making a fool out of Lindholm. Rielly just isn’t very good defensively.

godot10

OriginalPouzar: I’m sure there are many lists out there with just skill players, with no mandatory games played, etc., etc.

Those lists are fun exercises as well and can be created and debated/discussed.

This list has other parameters that requires a different type of compilation and different decisions to be made – fun in its own right.

Tikkanen, Kurri, Messier, and Anderson fulfill the requirement of a checking line. They were far better defensively than MacT and Buchberger.

TSN should be mocked to their idiocracy.

Woodguy v2.0

Great post LT.

Kudos for you for highlight an early SP contribution to your blog.

SP has been a amazing resource of info on this blog for years and when he posts I pay attention.

Shitty that when he came over to see some games Covid hit and I didn’t get to meet him.

Love me some SP!!!

defmn

OriginalPouzar: That would be a “solution” but I wouldn’t call it viable as I can’t imagine and reasonable likelihood that its agreed to.

Actually I think there are more teams would be willing to accept a June draft with a mechanism for trades than a June draft that excluded the possibiltiy.

The only downside is long term injury before the trade is consummated and that can happen in TC before the season even starts just as easily as during a playoff run that only lasts 4-7 games for half the guys involved.

Outside the box OP. This draft is not going to be like any other draft.

VanIsleOil

OriginalPouzar:
Cooper Marody with a post on his Instagram – just doing some drills on his driveway.

Anyways, of note was his stating “starting to feel like myself again after the injury”.

Now he was banged up a bunch of times last year but I think this might be an implication that he wasn’t right all last year after the Kessy assault in the 2019 playoffs.

Would be great if he could put himself back on the radar to be an NHL player.

..Kessy’s hit on Marody

https://gfycat.com/clearzanyfrigatebird-ice-hockey

OriginalPouzar

Munny: Not actually.

The problem is there may be a season or post-season ongoing when the draft occurs.How can player trades be made in such an environment?

The only possible viable solution I’ve seen is the one proposed by DEFMN, ie sealing the trades as future considerations that won’t be revealed nor will vest till the playoffs are completed.

That would be a “solution” but I wouldn’t call it viable as I can’t imagine and reasonable likelihood that its agreed to.

OriginalPouzar

godot10: Hampus Lindholm, and it isn’t close.He would go #1 in a redraft.

Potentially – Forsberg and Riley are both in that conversation.

With that said, again, two posts in a row with strong man arguments – your point is fine and valid but nothing to do with the conversation (Burke’s position on who was #1 on his list at the time).

OriginalPouzar

godot10: Murray suffered a serious shoulder injury in his draft +1 season, and many injuries in the NHL.And he has still managed to be a 2nd pair level defensemen.

His top end was taken away by those injuries.

That’s great but doesn’t really relate to the conversation you are responding to – which has to do with his placement on the current Oilers’ roster.

I don’t take him and his $4.6M per over any of Klefbom, Nurse or Jones – his injury history is irrelevant to the coversation.

OriginalPouzar

Pescador: Nothing, he progressed exactly as the math predicted.
20 goal scorers in junior almost never score 20 in the NHL.
Its 50 goal scorers (in junior) that are likely to score 20.
Guys like Moroz are usually good for a cup of coffee in the AHL

Nothing? 214 PIMs in 42 games in the ECHL in 2018/19 (to go along with 21 points and a plus 8) – ECHL all tools guy!

OriginalPouzar

flyfish1168: That is a skill move. These all time list should be skill players not plugs. If you have aDoug Weight on the 4th line against another teams 4th line I would takethat match up anytime of the week.

I’m sure there are many lists out there with just skill players, with no mandatory games played, etc., etc.

Those lists are fun exercises as well and can be created and debated/discussed.

This list has other parameters that requires a different type of compilation and different decisions to be made – fun in its own right.

OriginalPouzar

Munny:
Harpers Hair,

Why does Rogers hate trades?

It seems most GMs are vehemently against the June draft but this one is going to be a “league office powerhouse decision” linked to the networks and money.

Personally, I hate it – it changes the draft so vastly and takes away one of the primary player transfer periods of the year all but completely.

I get it though – doing it in June, given the circumstance, is clearly the way to get the most revenue from the event and, given all that’s in flux over the next year regarding revenues, it makes sense in that regard.

Oilman99

Pescador,

Unfortunately Moroz had his career year as an 18yr.old and played in the OIlers backyard so they saw way too much of him. This was an unexplainable choice even at the time. This is a prime example of how poor their scouting was at that time.

OriginalPouzar

Cooper Marody with a post on his Instagram – just doing some drills on his driveway.

Anyways, of note was his stating “starting to feel like myself again after the injury”.

Now he was banged up a bunch of times last year but I think this might be an implication that he wasn’t right all last year after the Kessy assault in the 2019 playoffs.

Would be great if he could put himself back on the radar to be an NHL player.

jake70

Well, a bit positive Covid-19 news…..we have NO active Covid-19 cases here in NB. 14th straight day with zero positives confirmed, no deaths, noone in hospital, all 118 recovered. Lots of reasons for this, with some dumb luck certainly a contributor, but it can be done….woohoo. Now, about those neutral sites being considered for NHL play…;-)

OriginalPouzar

flyfish1168:
The All time Oiler list should include Doug Weight. I would take him over Smyth or Buchberger. He would be a strong winger even though he is a centermen.

I’m sure he would have been a strong winger but the rules of the exercise didn’t allow him to be put in the team as a winger.

I think we can all agree that he doesn’t take a center sport over 99, 11 or 97 and that he doesn’t fit the bill as a “checking center” which, again, was required as per the rules.

The only real way to get him on would be to place Messier as a LW (as he did play a couple of season as a left winger and was an all-star at that position) but, as per TSN, doing so was against the spirit of the exercise.

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Using the TSN rules are what made the exercise what it was – if we wanted to throw away those rules then, sure, that’s cool too but its not the exercise we were presented with. We would all have Pronger on the team would have some great conversations about Guerin on the team and Cujo vs. Ranford, etc.

Munny

jtblack: I have one Dougie Weight goal etched in my memory … He took the puck coast to coast and scored against (Calgary?) … from the Blueline in, he was literally going sideways … crazy ass edgework before it was common ..

Here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tg8lsAmrxg

stephen sheps

meanashell11,

pine nuts. sorry about that!

(also edited in the actual recipe…)

RonnieB

Pittsburgh will be hurting for right side D next season, especially if they lose Schultz to free agency.
I think a Benning for Casey DeSmith off-season trade would work for both teams. Who says no ?