Maxim Denezhkin and the MHL

by Lowetide

Tracking Russian prospects is easier than it was 20 years ago but it’s no picnic. I can tell you Maxim Denezhkin is a lefty center, with great passing skills and an idea about the complete game. He’s undersized, his skating is good and he plays for a fine club (Yaroslavl) in the MHL.

The MHL is a junior league that contains 34 teams over four countries. You can’t be 20 on Sugar Mountain, or in the MHL.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, check it out here.

MAXIM DENEZHKIN MHL

Denezhkin was an older first-time eligible on his draft day (December 2000) and his even strength scoring is excellent but he’s in a junior league while the parent KHL club (the Konovalov-MacTavsh Torpedo band) did have teenagers (Nikolai Kovalenko) taking regular shifts. Denezhkin’s NHLE (12.5) suggests he is likely to fall shy of the NHL. Still, he’s an interesting pick, and there are miles to go.

RODION AMIROV MHL

Amirov is a big, skilled winger and a great skater. He’s 6.01, 182 but if he grows a little we might see ‘power forward’ mentioned in his bio down the line. I have him No. 24. If Ken Holland is as devoted to adding speed as I think he is, then Amirov is a possible for Edmonton in the first round of the 2020 draft.

OILERS LW DEPTH CHART, SEPTEMBER 2007

Below the LW depth chart and the verbal as it appeared intact via a post on this blog September 8, 2007

1. Dustin Penner- 06-07 numbers were ES points-per-60 mins: 1.92, PP points-per-60-mins: 4.01. His numbers are well back of Hemsky, similar but inferior to Stoll and he scores about as often as Raffi Torres at EV. His numbers are solid, not spectacular. Penner will likely play with Horcoff and Hemsky and get mammoth PP time.

2. Raffi Torres- 06-07 numbers were ES points-per-60mins: 1.94, PP points-per-60mins: 0.40. If I were defending Kevin Lowe’s moves this summer (which is exactly as difficult as jumping Snake River Canyon), I’d probably start with Torres’ oddly impressive stats. The numbers say he’s a good hockey player at EVs, according to Desjardins he played the second toughest minutes among Oilers forwards last season (Pisani the toughest). His EV scoring results trailed only Stoll and Hemsky among returning Oiler forwards.

3. Patrick Thoresen- 06-07 numbers were ES Points-per-60mins: 1.15, PP Points-per-60mins: 3.26. I have a feeling that Thoresen is going to blossom and end up playing top 6 minutes at EVs this season. With all the excitement over the kids, there seems to be a tendency to overlook a guy who played multiple roles last season, passed every test and ripped up the lesser league when demoted briefly. One night in October when Nilsson is the suck and Sanderson’s hands make him look 50, the coach is going to look down that bench and spot Patrick Thoresen.

4. Ethan Moreau- 06-07 numbers were EV points-per-60mins: 1.10, PP points-per-60mins: 3.85 in limited action. Moreau is a key player on this team, even moreso with the Pisani injury. He is not Pisani’s equal without the puck, and he still takes some dumb penalties, but he’ll be relied on heavily by MacT in all sorts of roles, including his usual mentor role for young 2-way forwards.

5. Geoff Sanderson- 06-07 numbers were EV points-per-60mins: 2.06, PP points-per-60mins: 2.45. I think they’ll use him at RW on a 2-4 (which I’ll be buying daily) rotation with Robert Nilsson until he either settles in or they go for another option.

6. Robert Nilsson- 05-06 numbers were EV points-per-60mins: 1.56, PP points-per-60mins: 3.37. It may seem like I’m down on the guy, but it isn’t really about him at all. Listen, Robert Nilsson is skilled. However, there’s just not enough clearance between him and a bunch of other kids on this roster for him to have any leeway at all. Maybe the Gods smile on him and he pops 5 goals in October, or maybe he gets a hat-trick opening night and then rolls. However, he’s not really a top drawer prospect (as some seem to be hyping him this fall) like Gagner, Cogliano and (I believe) Slava Trukhno. He’s a guy who can have a career if everything breaks right.

7. Jean Francois Jacques- Going into camp the tea leaves look like he’ll be heading to Pennsylvania. Jacques made the team last season but didn’t do enough to get into the lineup (just like Mikhnov) and unlike Thoresen never really did prove he belonged in the NHL. He has an advantage in that (unlike Nilsson) he does have some unique qualities that make his inclusion on the big roster attractive, but he’s likely headed to the AHL with the hope that he sets it on fire.

8. Slava Trukhno- Has a wide range of skills, including size, skill and grit. We don’t know if he’ll get a good shot or even if he’ll take advantage should it come his way, but the resume is pretty impressive. The most overlooked prospect by the fanbase, you’ll often see HFboards descriptions of him as “one dimensional” or that he “scored points in an inferior league.” Knowing the limitations of junior scoring numbers, imo Trukhno is a legit high end prospect.

9. Ryan Flinn- Derek Boogaard he isn’t, but Flinn is likely to play some games at the NHL level this winter. Oilers did suffer during several NW matchups because they had no answer for the opposition ruffian. If only Brad Winchester could have filled the role.

10. Liam Reddox- Spent much of the season in the ECHL last year, would have to be considered out of the running before the parade to the post.

11. Tim Sestito- Looks like an AHL role player to me, but he’s 23 and could surprise.

12. Geoff Paukovich- I put him here because center is so crowded. I imagine he’ll (like McDonald and Rohlfs) impress because of size but end up being sent down to the AHL to learn his trade.

WHAT HAPPENED 2007-08 ON LEFT WING OPENING NIGHT?

Dustin Penner played on a line with Shawn Horcoff and Ales Hemsky opening night against the San Jose Sharks. Trio won the shot share 7-4 but were outscored 1-0 at five on five.

Raffi Torres played on the second line, with Jarret Stoll and Robert Nilsson. They didn’t give up any goals but were outshot 5-2, Sam Gagner appears to have replaced Nilsson at times.

Geoff Sanderson played on a line with Marty Reasoner and Kyle Brodziak, winning the shot share 5-4 and going 1-0 goals (Brodziak). Ethan Moreau was injured and didn’t play the opener.

J.F. Jacques played on a line with youngsters Andrew Cogliano and Sam Gagner, winning the shots 2-1 and the goals 1-0. Patrick Thoresen lost the opening night gig to Jacques, but would return and then land in Philly a week after Valentine’s Day.

2007-08 THE NUMBERS (NHL)

Here are the five on five per 60 number for LW’s in 2007-08, from the beginning of the season through the end of December.

  1. Robert Nilsson 2.01 (in 32 games) [13-12]
  2. Dustin Penner 1.37 (in 40 games) [24-16]
  3. Raffi Torres 1.24 (in 32 games) [15-16]
  4. Geoff Sanderson 1.09 (in 30 games) [7-14]
  5. Patrick Thoresen 0.51 (in 12 games) [2-6]
  6. J.F. Jacques 0.00 (in 9 games) [1-4]
  7. Liam Reddox 0.00 (in one game) [0-1]

Ethan Moreau played just two games and the veterans struggled to put the puck in the net. As you can see, Nilsson was the only LW posting a strong number but the top three LW’s were on successful lines. Now the second half of the season.

  1. Geoff Sanderson 3.56 (in 11 games) [5-7]
  2. Curtis Glencross 2.99 (in 26 games) [16-11]
  3. Robert Nilsson 2.67 (in 39 games) [26-16]
  4. Patrick Thoresen 2.20 (in 5 games) [2-1]
  5. Dustin Penner 1.24 (in 42 games) [19-29]
  6. Ethan Moreau 0.70 (in 23 games) [5-10]

Lowe acquired Curtis Glencross from Columbus in a deal that worked out well (would have been a home run if they’d signed him). Torres was lost due to a knee injury mid-December through the end of the year. Robert Nilsson had a strong year, Dustin Penner a disappointing one.

The minor league team had some good stories. Two quotes in The Republican (Springfield paper) from Kevin Lowe detailed how the organization sees the top prospects bubbling under. “Robbie Schremp was the most noteworthy player – and getting 75 points in the AHL is nothing to sneeze at – but that was expected of him. Liam Reddox probably made the most improvement over what he was last season (in the ECHL), and Slava Trukhno made the most improvement within the season.”

  1. Patrick Thoresen 29, 13-13-26 .90 points per game
  2. Liam Reddox 65, 16-28-44 .68
  3. J.F. Jacques 38, 11-14-25 .66
  4. Slava Trukhno 64, 14-21-35 .55
  5. Tim Sestito 77, 7-10-17 .22

None of these kids made the grade, such a miserable era for minor league development. At least they all lived in Springfield and were wearing the same laundry.

Two questions: Did you enjoy this trip through the past, would you like to see it again? Second question: How does the current LW depth chart compare to the 2007-08 edition?

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

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sean w

Huge fan of this kind of post, LT.

OriginalPouzar

Igor Larionov named head coach for the Russian Junior team and the IIHF announces he will lead Team Russia at the WOrld Juniors in Edmonton in Dec 2020/Jan 2021.

Please, please, please lets have that tournament run as per normal. Would be a great event for the city and, taking aside who the Oilers may draft this year (who may be in the tourney), I think Broberg is going to have a hugely increased role for Team Sweden and I want to see it.

defmn

Amirov is one of the guys who is ranked all over the first round. Elite Prospects has him at 13, ISS at 16, Future Considerations at 19, McKeens 25, and the Draft Analyst as an extreme outlier at 7th overall.

OriginalPouzar

Ethan Bear with an “honorable mention” in the much-atnicipated ESPN rookie rankings:

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/29255340/nhl-rookie-rankings-final-top-10-2019-20-win-calder-trophy

If only Kailer had played more than 30 games (well, maybe not, he needed the AHL development time that he received)

Elgin R

LT: prior to this year these kind of article only brought more pain and I could not get through them. The Oilers have finally turned the corner and now I can read and appreciate them (while still wondering how 6-rings etc kept their jobs). Keep them coming.

I have been seeing articles about Amirov for a while now, and he may be the real deal. You can’t teach size and if he is a good a skater as scouts say he is then he might be worth a late first. I really like that he is described as aggressive and that he finishes his checks hard. Big, tough and skilled is always valued (see TML for the opposite comparison) If all the centers (Javis, Bourque, Zary) and Schneider (RHD) are gone then absolutely worth consideration.

Oz

Enjoyed the article LT because time tends to distort my memories, but the math based review brings the players back to what actually happened.

OriginalPouzar

Seravelli confirms that a number of the teams won’t be opening their facilities on Monday due to limited team players in town – Habs and Jets confirmed as not opening.

OriginalPouzar

Wow – As Tyler just mentioned on the show, Chris Cuthbert leaving TSN to join the SN broadcast team.

Legit top echelon talent.

dustrock

My Gord I totally forgot about Geoff Sanderson on that team.

Ribs

OriginalPouzar:
Wow – As Tyler just mentioned on the show, Chris Cuthbert leaving TSN to join the SN broadcast team.

Legit top echelon talent.

Whoa. This is huge. Great for the NHL but a very harsh blow to the CFL.

Justthestatsman

Ribs,

Agreed. I wonder if the likelihood of the CFL not starting until September, if at all this year played into this. I really don’t know to what extent on-air talent salaries are guaranteed if there are no games to broadcast.

Hitman77

OriginalPouzar:
Wow – As Tyler just mentioned on the show, Chris Cuthbert leaving TSN to join the SN broadcast team.

Legit top echelon talent.

Good for Sportsnet. I prefer Cuthbert over Hughson anyday. Hughson’s voice drains the life out of a game.

Klima's_Bucket

dustrock: My Gord I totally forgot about Geoff Sanderson on that team.

I’ve told this story here before but I’ll tell it again.

Summer 2007

I am at West Ed Mall at Cinn Zeo.

I place my order and then I turn around and who do I see?
No, not Emilio Esteves the Mighty Duck man, but Geoff Sanderson.

The first words from my mouth.

“My God, it’s Geoff Sanderson!
You were my favourite Whaler from NHL 94!!
You were so good on that game.”

He replies with a smile,

“Well hopefully I still got some of that game left.”

Hitman77

If the cap is staying flat for say 3 years, does anyone see one of Nuge or Nurse being traded out of town? Both of those guys will be UFA in 1 and 2 years, respectively.

dustrock

Klima’s_Bucket: I’ve told this story here before but I’ll tell it again.

Summer 2007

I am at West Ed Mall at Cinn Zeo.

I place my order and then I turn around and who do I see?
No, not Emilio Esteves the Mighty Duck man, but Geoff Sanderson.

The first words from my mouth.

“My God, it’s Geoff Sanderson!
You were my favourite Whaler from NHL 94!!
You were so good on that game.”

He replies with a smile,

“Well hopefully I still got some of that game left.”

Great hockey story that even involves the Whalers and NHL’94, you’ve hit all my sweet spots.

jtblack

dustrock: Great hockey story that even involves the Whalers and NHL’94, you’ve hit all my sweet spots.

1994 Sega NHL Hockey. I was unofficial residence champion at university. I always chose Chicago. Belfour, Roenick, Larmer, etc …

Don’t ask what my grades were … 🙁

Reja

From what I gather the best goalie qualifying round is 5 games. The top 4 teams play each other in a mini tournament that decide the seatings for the actual first round. What happens if they all beat each other and have the same points, is it goals for and against that come into play? If we would have beat the Jets we would be playing for the top seat and the easiest road to the finals. Instead we’re going to have fight for our life’s just to make it to the real playoffs. The NHL could have easily went with the top 2 teams in each division, instead we get Fucked like usual! If anybody brings up that it is only fair that the Flames get our 3rd or even a compensation added pick I’m going to find the biggest, baddest leftover protest sign and use it on a Flames fan!

Harpers Hair

Reja:
From what I gather the best goalie qualifying round is 5 games. The top 4 teams play each otherin a mini tournament that decide the seatings for the actual first round. What happens if they all beat each other and have the same points, is it goals for and against that come into play? If we would have beat the Jets we would be playing for the top seat and the easiest road to the finals. Instead we’re going to have fight for our life’s just to make it to the real playoffs. The NHL could have easily went with the top 2 teams in each division, instead we get Fucked like usual! If anybody brings up that it is only fair that the Flames get our 3rd or even a compensation added pick I’m going to find the biggest, baddest leftover protest sign and use it on a Flames fan!

Ties will be broken by regular season points percentage.

STL .662
COL .657
VGK .606
DAL .594

godot10

Reja:
From what I gather the best goalie qualifying round is 5 games. The top 4 teams play each otherin a mini tournament that decide the seatings for the actual first round. What happens if they all beat each other and have the same points, is it goals for and against that come into play? If we would have beat the Jets we would be playing for the top seat and the easiest road to the finals. Instead we’re going to have fight for our life’s just to make it to the real playoffs. The NHL could have easily went with the top 2 teams in each division, instead we get Fucked like usual! If anybody brings up that it is only fair that the Flames get our 3rd or even a compensation added pick I’m going to find the biggest, baddest leftover protest sign and use it on a Flames fan!

I think it is an advantage playing the best of five rather than the top 4 round robin.

OriginalPouzar

As per LeBrun:

Edmonton Oilers

The Oilers only expect their local players to be on hand when Phase 2 opens. A team source said there would be further discussion on Friday afternoon to determine when exactly they would open their facility but the hope is to be ready by next week at some point, perhaps as early as Monday. Our Oilers beat writer Daniel Nugent-Bowman said the Oilers should have five players on hand next week.

https://theathletic.com/1857228/2020/06/05/lebrun-what-to-expect-from-each-of-the-24-teams-as-they-enter-phase-2/

Tesla's Hair

90s were legendary time to be a teen! Lets hope Blackhawks don’t channel NHL 94 Roenick in playoffs. LOL
https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-94-enduring-popularity-25-years-later/c-301326816

“Jeremy Roenick scored 513 goals in 20 NHL seasons. But when fans see him in public, they usually want to discuss his exploits on a virtual (and mysteriously blue) sheet of ice, not a real one.

They want to talk to him about “NHL ’94.” “It’s my claim to fame,” Roenick said

Special Note: “There was also specialized organ music specific to certain home teams. Those songs, played by Dieter Ruehle, the organist for the Los Angeles Kings and baseball’s Los Angeles Dodgers, included “Here Come the Hawks,” (Chicago Blackhawks), “Brass Bonanza” (Hartford Whalers) and “When the Saints Go Marching In” (St. Louis Blues).”

Munny

Hopefully Cuthbert will be replacing Randorf.

If so, fantastic news.

hunter1909

2020 PLAGUE LOWETIDE HOCKEY GAME:

Ok since the lockdown is still in effect:

IF:

YES OR NO:

Trade Connor McDavid as is, for Mark Messier circa pre playoffs 1984.

Who keeps McDavid? Who trades McDavid for Messier?

meanashell11

hunter1909,

I’m a big Messier fan but I say no.

leadfarmer

jtblack: 1994 Sega NHL Hockey. I was unofficial residence champion at university.I always chose Chicago. Belfour, Roenick, Larmer, etc …

Don’t ask what my grades were …

Holy crap? Are we related??
Although I was in Junior High but still.
Those Blackhawks were the best

Reja

godot10: I think it is an advantage playing the best of five rather than the top 4 round robin.

Well than somebody better be massaging Smiths groin at least a couple of times a day and Kosh better be ready at a moments notice.

Elgin R

Munny:
Hopefully Cuthbert will be replacing Randorf.

If so, fantastic news.

Absolutely! Did not even think of this perfect scenario. Love to have some CC on Oiler broadcasts – maybe during the play-in games even.

OriginalPouzar

OriginalPouzar:
Seravelli confirms that a number of the teams won’t be opening their facilities on Monday due to limited team players in town – Habs and Jets confirmed as not opening.

Listening to Friedman on Oilers Now and a place like MTL has indicated they will “open their facilities” under the protocols if requested – fair enough.

N64

hunter1909,

NO.

Drai checks the other box.

Ribs

leadfarmer: Holy crap?Are we related??
Although I was in Junior High but still.
Those Blackhawks were the best

Cheaters. You probably allow curls out of the corners to the net, too! lol

N64

OriginalPouzar:
Seravelli confirms that a number of the teams won’t be opening their facilities on Monday due to limited team players in town – Habs and Jets confirmed as not opening.

~ At 2 am daily ~

bsmart

leadfarmer,

Oh man that takes me back! That was an epic game and my favorite year of the EA NHL series.

Steve Larmer was an absolute assassin!

Reja

I still think

hunter1909:
2020 PLAGUE LOWETIDE HOCKEY GAME:

Ok since the lockdown is still in effect:

IF:

YES OR NO:

Trade Connor McDavid as is, for Mark Messier circa pre playoffs 1984.

Who keeps McDavid? Who trades McDavid for Messier?

I still think Connor has another gear and was playing at 80% this year hopefully the lay-off helped his recovery. Now all he needs is a bit of asshole in him like Anderson, Messier was a tier above that.

London Jon

OriginalPouzar,

Don’t agree with Marino 5 and Bear effectively 11th.

Bear was playing top-4, if not top pair, all year and (I believe) Marino was bottom pair, sometimes second pair.

jtblack

leadfarmer: Holy crap?Are we related??
Although I was in Junior High but still.
Those Blackhawks were the best

HAHAHAH. yes, goog memories …Roenick was unstoppable!

I only remember Roenick, Larmer, Belfour and Dirk Graham ….

JimmyV1965

Reja:
From what I gather the best goalie qualifying round is 5 games. The top 4 teams play each otherin a mini tournament that decide the seatings for the actual first round. What happens if they all beat each other and have the same points, is it goals for and against that come into play? If we would have beat the Jets we would be playing for the top seat and the easiest road to the finals. Instead we’re going to have fight for our life’s just to make it to the real playoffs. The NHL could have easily went with the top 2 teams in each division, instead we get Fucked like usual! If anybody brings up that it is only fair that the Flames get our 3rd or even a compensation added pick I’m going to find the biggest, baddest leftover protest sign and use it on a Flames fan!

If we can’t beat the Hawks, we don’t deserve to advance. And if we win, we get to play the round robin loser. Maybe one of those teams just can’t find their mojo. Cup half full.

OriginalPouzar

Interview with Don Fehr with SN. Not much real or “new” info, but thought I’d summarize anyways:

Hub cities – still 10 days to a couple weeks from making a decision.

Not a normal labor negotiation because of so many unknowns and so much out of their control.

Medical Protocols – NHLPA believes the protocols are appropriate or they wouldn’t have agreed. Developed in conjunction with experts retained by each of the NHLPA and the NHL. It’s a “living documents” – if they need to change, they will (even as far as relaxing if its determined that something in there doesn’t need to be done). Its not just players, its staff (including outside the team) that need to be protected.

Rule Changes (i.e. full facemask, weird faceoff protocols) – likely not needed – if testing is frequent enough and all the facilities are cleaned and the hubs are protected, should not be needed.

Has looking towards next season advanced the discussion of a new CBA? Fehr said that is hasn’t “advanced it” but they’ve been talking for over a year but there have been so many new issues to deal with that extension talks have kind of been on the back-burner.

Reja

JimmyV1965: If we can’t beat the Hawks, we don’t deserve to advance. And if we win, we get to play the round robin loser. Maybe one of those teams just can’t find their mojo. Cup half full.

I’m glad we have so many capable defenceman it’s hard enough winning 4 rounds never mind 5. This might possibly be Smiths last kick at winning the cup you know he’s hungry if he gets on a roll look out. I’m calling it now AA will be a whole different player and will push the envelope. Oilers are going to be hard to beat hopefully Kane went on a good bender and is all tuckered out.

Reja

OriginalPouzar:
Interview with Don Fehr with SN.Not much real or “new” info, but thought I’d summarize anyways:

Hub cities – still 10 days to a couple weeks from making a decision.

Not a normal labor negotiation because of so many unknowns and so much out of their control.

Medical Protocols – NHLPA believes the protocols are appropriate or they wouldn’t have agreed.Developed in conjunction with experts retained by each of the NHLPA and the NHL. It’s a “living documents” – if they need to change, they will (even as far as relaxing if its determined that something in there doesn’t need to be done). Its not just players, its staff (including outside the team) that need to be protected.

Rule Changes (i.e. full facemask, weird faceoff protocols) – likely not needed – if testing is frequent enough and all the facilities are cleaned and the hubs are protected, should not be needed.

Has looking towards next season advanced the discussion of a new CBA?Fehr said that is hasn’t “advanced it” but they’ve been talking for over a year but there have been so many new issues to deal with that extension talks have kind of been on the back-burner.

How many hub city’s are there and who are your choices?

N64

Reja: How many hub city’s are there and who are your choices?

2.

~ Lucy’s still got Charlie Brown thinking one’s lined up nicely for Canada ~

OriginalPouzar

Ribs: Whoa. This is huge. Great for the NHL but a very harsh blow to the CFL.

Huge congrats to Dusty N. for moving up the TSN depth chart for CFL – whenever that may be.

buck yoakam

wow..just watching that canada russia world junior game 2005….both teams are scary but canada is stacked!…I might have been able to play goal for that team…holy crap!!!…seabrook, paneuf, weber….bergeron, sid, carter, perry , dawes, getzlaf,ladd,richards,stewart…..man what a powerhouse..

OriginalPouzar

Klima’s_Bucket: I’ve told this story here before but I’ll tell it again.

Summer 2007

I am at West Ed Mall at Cinn Zeo.

I place my order and then I turn around and who do I see?
No, not Emilio Esteves the Mighty Duck man, but Geoff Sanderson.

The first words from my mouth.

“My God, it’s Geoff Sanderson!
You were my favourite Whaler from NHL 94!!
You were so good on that game.”

He replies with a smile,

“Well hopefully I still got some of that game left.”

Nothing to do with Geoff Sanderson but my interaction with a “famous NHL personality”.

This must have been back in 2010 or so – I was in Vancouver for meetings and was walking back in to the lobby of my hotel, face down on my blackberry when I sneezed – I got a Gesundheit from a random person walking the other way, out of the hotel – it was Brent Sutter and, yup, the flames were in Vancouver to play.

Lame story but whatever.

OriginalPouzar

Hitman77:
If the cap is staying flat for say 3 years, does anyone see one of Nuge or Nurse being traded out of town?Both of those guys will be UFA in 1 and 2 years, respectively.

I see Nuge being re-signed but, yes, at some point, they need to make some moves to open up more cap space.

There is no point in having a swarth of promising young developing d-men if they are never used a trade currency themselves or graduating to material roles to more cheaply fill a spot.

At some point, in my make sense to trade Nurse for value and cap space. I don’t think this off-season is the time as the gap is too big between Nurse and his replacement, however, in a year, the gap may be smaller via Jones.

Totally different types of players and, of course, Jones won’t just fill the loss of Nurse but the close to $5M of savings plus asset return on Nurse…….. (and with Sammy, Broberg, Lagesson and, shit, maybe Lennstrom or Niemelainen as cover – at various stages).

OriginalPouzar

Reja:
From what I gather the best goalie qualifying round is 5 games. The top 4 teams play each otherin a mini tournament that decide the seatings for the actual first round. What happens if they all beat each other and have the same points, is it goals for and against that come into play? If we would have beat the Jets we would be playing for the top seat and the easiest road to the finals. Instead we’re going to have fight for our life’s just to make it to the real playoffs. The NHL could have easily went with the top 2 teams in each division, instead we get Fucked like usual! If anybody brings up that it is only fair that the Flames get our 3rd or even a compensation added pick I’m going to find the biggest, baddest leftover protest sign and use it on a Flames fan!

Tiebreaks in the top-4 round robin tourney are to be decided via regular season points percentage.

Yup, they could have (should have) gone with a division format over a conference format but, to me, oh well, I’m definitely not going to get overly-emotional or worked up about it. I will leave that to you and McCurdy.

I don’t think any Oiler fan has said that its fair the the flames get the Oilers third – end stop.

At the same time, if we are being honest and unbiased, I don’t think that its “fair” that the flames just “get nothing”, end-stop.

Pro-rating is clearly not a perfect solution and it should happen.

I do see a compensatory pick to one of the teams – I think it should be the flames and the Oilers aren’t forced to move down 11 spots.

buck yoakam

OriginalPouzar,

that is definitely lame …

jtblack

hunter1909:
2020 PLAGUE LOWETIDE HOCKEY GAME:

Ok since the lockdown is still in effect:

IF:

YES OR NO:

Trade Connor McDavid as is, for Mark Messier circa pre playoffs 1984.

Who keeps McDavid? Who trades McDavid for Messier?

this is like click bait ….

NO WAY. NO HOW.

OriginalPouzar

godot10: I think it is an advantage playing the best of five rather than the top 4 round robin.

If you win……

OriginalPouzar

Reja: I’m glad we have so many capable defenceman it’s hard enough winning 4 rounds never mind 5. This might possibly be Smiths last kick at winning the cup you know he’s hungry if he gets on a roll look out. I’m calling it now AA will be a whole different player and will push the envelope. Oilers are going to be hard to beat hopefully Kane went on a good bender and is all tuckered out.

Quite a few have expressed an opinion that you share on AA – that he will be a better Oiler after having a training camp and some time to learn the systems and have Coach T learn about the player himself.

Here is hoping it proves true.

OriginalPouzar

As per John Shannon:

Both Oilers and Maple Leafs have ice available for players, as of Monday, if they want.

Canucks and Canadiens, with only a few players in town, won’t have ice available.

Jets will have ice available later in the week.

Flames are meeting today to discuss the timeline