2019-20 Game Four: Oilers at Devils

Three games into the 2019-20 season and even the crusty are beginning to allow for the possibilities. Oh sure everything’s awful and we’re all going to die, but maybe this winter, this team, will keep the city of Edmonton and Oilers fans around the world hanging on through the deadline and into spring. Many miles to go, the possession numbers are not strong but the wins are groovy. Reminds me a little of 2008-09. Nice start.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of The Athletic, there is a Puck Drop Special offer here.

  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘He’s addicted to getting better’: What the Oilers are saying about Connor McDavid’s amazing start
  • New Eric Duhatschek: The lasting impact of The Gretzky Effect, 40 years after his NHL debut
  • New Max Olson:There’s only one Chuba’: Oklahoma State’s star running back is Canada’s gift to college football
  • New Jonathan Willis: Oilers who could win (or lose) NHL jobs early in 2019-20
  • Lowetide: Several unproven players are earning NHL jobs and increasing roster quality and depth. No balance photo, but some traction early.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Why Riley Sheahan could be a key ingredient the Oilers have been missing
  • Jonathan Willis: Bet on James Neal rebounding with Oilers, just not all the way
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: How Joel Persson went from being a part-time teacher three years ago to patrolling the Oilers blue line (this is exceptional).
  • Lowetide: Keeping an eye on Jesse Puljujarvi: Which teams could emerge as potential trade partners?
  • Lowetide: Kailer Yamamoto’s fast start in the AHL highlights an active week for Oilers prospects
  • Lowetide: A shift-by-shift analysis of Ethan Bear in the Oilers’ season opener
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Looking at how the Oilers can manage on defence without Adam Larsson
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: No need to temper expectations after Connor McDavid’s season debut for Oilers
  • Lowetide: Ken Holland has a plan for the Oilers’ top prospects.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: At home with Ken Holland: Packing away the championship memories and preparing for a new challenge
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Q&A: Oscar Klefbom on being a mentor, his strategy for staying healthy and saying goodbye to a friend.
  • Daniel and Jon: Ten bold (and not so bold) predictions for the Oilers this season
  • Lowetide: The Oilers are poised to break a 25-year-old franchise record this season
  • Lowetide: Jay Woodcroft’s Bakersfield Condors might be bound for glory
  • Corey Pronman: Oilers No. 9 farm system.
  • Lowetide: Oilers top 20 prospects summer 2019.

OILERS IN OCTOBER

  • Oilers in October 2015: 0-4-0, goal differential -8
  • Oilers in October 2016: 3-1-0, goal differential +2
  • Oilers in October 2017: 1-3-0, goal differential -6
  • Oilers in October 2018: 2-2-0, goal differential -4
  • Oilers in October 2019: 3-0-0, goal differential +5

This start resembles only one other since McDavid arrived in town, and it’s worth noting the teams who missed the playoffs (2015, 2017, 2018) were off the pace at the starting gate. In 2015 (70), 2017 (78) and 2018 (79) the cement dried very quickly. So too in 2016 (103) the die was cast early, but in the good direction. The Oilers good fortune to match 2016 so far this year.

WHAT TO EXPECT FROM OCTOBER

  • At home to: Vancouver, Los Angeles (Expected: 1-1-0) (Actual 2-0-0)
  • On the road to: NYI, NJD, NYR, CHI (Expected 2-1-1) Actual (1-0-0)
  • At home to: Philadelphia, Detroit (Expected 1-1-0)
  • On the road to: Winnipeg, Minnesota (Expected 1-1-0)
  • At home to: Washington, Florida (Expected 1-1-0)
  • On the road to: Detroit, Columbus (Expected 1-1-0)
  • Overall expected result: 7-6-1, 15 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 3-0-0, 6 points after 3 games

When I was looking through these October games, the one thing that struck me was this road trip. The teams Edmonton is facing on this trip could be good (I marked New Jersey as being a better team this year) but there was some question about each of them. So, the Oilers play the Devils tonight and we’re not sure if they’ll win. I do think they’ll have a chance to win, and maybe that’s Dave Tippett’s presence. Oilers have cut way back on chaos/60 under the new coach, and the outlet passing has improved markedly. Three games can tell you some things, and the quick out effectiveness appears woven in the fabric.

OILERS WORRIES

Early days, but the trends on some of the Oilers numbers are not good through three games. We need 20, that’s my line in the sand your mileage may vary. Here are some interesting totals, we are always looking for 50 percent or better in possession, goals, etc. NST, all numbers five-on-five unless indicated:

  • Corsi: 43.87
  • Fenwick: 43.82
  • Shot differential: 44.19
  • Goal differential: 56.25
  • Expected goals: 49.02
  • Scoring chance differential: 47.86
  • High danger scoring chance differential: 56.10
  • Shooting percentage: 15.79
  • Save percentage: 90.28
  • PDO: 106.1
  • Power Play: four goals in 20:57
  • Penalty Kill: one goal against in 17:54

BASEBALL

I have a Nationals story for you. Well, Expos, but close enough for jazz. It’s about a man named Matt Stairs, who could hit a ball to the sun but wasn’t really built for running. At the time of this story, he was a young Montreal Expos prospect. Many years ago–this would probably be 1990–my wife and I flew to Cancun for a winter vacation. Cancun is beautiful, and fun!

We were out in the sun too long one day and I burned my legs, but we were having fun and I didn’t notice. We headed out for a nice meal. It was an outdoor restaurant, and a cool breeze started rolling in during our dinner. At one point, I looked down and both of my legs were full of goose bumps the size of Chryslers.

By the time we get back to the hotel (Cancun Palace, nice joint) I’m in real pain. Painkillers from the front desk, a mountain of aloe vera and I’m praying I’m going to get some sleep.

I do not. It’s 3am, I can’t sleep. So, I turn on the television and am met by something called SUPER CADENA (Caribbean World Series) and damned if it isn’t Matt Stairs at the plate. I watched the entire game. Three hours of “turn it off” followed by “in a minute.” Stairs had a great game iirc, ripped a double and his side won the game. It took forever to play, but I remember that game pretty well considering pain, time of day and alcohol consumed. It was worth watching. I slept all the next day. She’s still with me.  

ROUND TABLE

This morning on the Lowdown (10-11), I’m honored to have three smart guys with strong opinions return to the round table. We do this two or three times a year, and I wanted to wait just a little because there was a lot of roster vague at the end of September. Tyler Hupka, Darcy McLeod and Bruce McCurdy will bring strong opinions to TSN1260 for an hour. So, tune in, and we welcome your questions, in the comments section below or at 10-1260.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, TSN1260, leading off with the round table. At 11, Frank Seravalli from TSN joins us to chat James Neal, Taylor Hall, the chances of going 4-0 and all of the unbeaten teams.

At 11:20, Andrew Peard and Corey Graham will join me. That’s 67 percent of the Oil Kings modern play-by-play history. The story of Corey’s difficult physical journey over the last few years is mostly known, but what isn’t known well is his desire to resume his career. It takes a special person to keep his eye on the goal through such difficult circumstances, and Corey is that person. On the other side, Andrew Peard’s career path is also part of the story. I’ve worked in radio for 40 years and things never work out as well as this one. Both men will share their thoughts with us this morning. 10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter.

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  1. v4ance says:

    Zelepukin: TBH we don’t need Bear or Persson on PP1. Shots from the point would be a complete disservice to the skills of all 4 other players out there.

    That hard point shot by Klef from the point was the main reason we scored on that PP

  2. Ryan says:

    I don’t read lips, but I’m fairly confident that McDavid said “*#$&puck yeah!”

    When the good goal announced.

  3. OmJo says:

    What an OT.

  4. Ryan says:

    OmJo:
    What an OT.

    Hall. Once an Oiler… always an Oiler.

  5. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    Wow… how much you wanna bet NJ goes glove side?

  6. Sierra says:

    That was a fun 5 minutes. Sick talent on both sides.

  7. OmJo says:

    Imagine sending McDavid and Draisaitl, followed by Nuge and Hall, 3v3.

    He was all over that OT.

  8. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    Huh… he must be too tired to shoot properly now

  9. Ice Sage says:

    goose egg

  10. Material Elvis says:

    Leon. Dat shot!

  11. Side says:

    Wow.

  12. OmJo says:

    Four.
    In.
    A.
    Row.

  13. Sierra says:

    What a shot!

    Great win when outplayed for most of the game.

  14. Ryan says:

    Material Elvis:
    Leon.Dat shot!

    Das shot!

  15. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    YEAH!!!!! 4-0 Baby!!! Everything is clicking dammit!!!

  16. Ryan says:

    Crazy Pedestrian:
    YEAH!!!!! 4-0 Baby!!!Everything is clicking dammit!!!

    The PDO giveth!

  17. hunter1909 says:

    Crazy Pedestrian:
    YEAH!!!!! 4-0 Baby!!!Everything is clicking dammit!!!

    At least until Thanksgiving!

  18. ArmchairGM says:

    Four and oh!

  19. Ice Sage says:

    I got some sympathy for the Devils. THey’ll be good and soon.

  20. Side says:

    2 close games won, 1 blow out win, 1 probably should have lost but won.

    Team confidence must be ballooning.

  21. StixMalone says:

    Woot!

  22. Caller Zen says:

    Love how Drai doesn’t even celebrate that goal…. what a lazy player! mwhahaha

  23. ArmchairGM says:

    OmJo:
    Imagine sending McDavid and Draisaitl, followed by Nuge and Hall, 3v3.

    He was all over that OT.

    Followed by Barzal and… oh, forget it.

  24. Ryan says:

    Maybe Hall is homesick and sees our potential… signs for hometown discount next summer.

  25. hunter1909 says:

    Caller Zen:
    Love how Drai doesn’t even celebrate that goal…. what a lazy player! mwhahaha

    Teutonic stoicism.

  26. Ryan says:

    Caller Zen:
    Love how Drai doesn’t even celebrate that goal…. what a lazy player! mwhahaha

    Laziest player in the NHL!

  27. Zelepukin says:

    v4ance: That hard point shot by Klef from the point was the main reason we scored on that PP

    The only reason that shot was taken was because it was a 6-on-4 and we had two guys in front. It was a set play, the whole point of the time out.

  28. Derek says:

    That game was an abomination.

    Edit: I’m happy they won, but man that game had some stank on it.

  29. Rebillled says:

    Taylor Hall!

  30. Nix says:

    Ryan: Das shot!

    Wonderbar

  31. striatic says:

    The stretching Koskinen save in the shootout was excellent. He’s quietly put together a couple tidy games. Have to imagine Smith gets the next game though.

  32. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    Derek:
    That game was an abomination.

    Edit: I’m happy they won, but man that game had some stank on it.

    In the end it’s not how, but how many…

  33. JimmyV1965 says:

    For a team with crappy goaltending, they sure seem to be saving our ass a lot here early.

  34. who says:

    Lucky win.
    Some of our best players managed the puck horribly tonight. I was thrilled to get 1 point, never mind 2.
    I know he’s red hot, but playing James Neal at 5×5 is not a good idea.

  35. Johnny skid says:

    the koskinen detractors were silenced tonight.

  36. Reja says:

    Just like the 1983 Chicago White Sox winning ugly is beautiful baby.

  37. OriginalPouzar says:

    I’m not even sure what to think of that game – they certainly got outplayed.

    Did Mikko steal it?

    McDavid was awful in OT – lazy turnovers and even lazier disregard for defence – oh well, I think I can give him a break.

    What I DO know is: 4 games, 4 wins.

  38. JimmyV1965 says:

    Ice Sage:
    I got some sympathy for the Devils.THey’ll be good and soon.

    Nice post. Great tune.

  39. OriginalPouzar says:

    Did Mikko steal it?

    McDavid was awful in OT – lazy turnovers and even lazier disregard for defence – oh well, I think I can give him a break.

    What I DO know is: 4 games, 4 wins.

  40. Harpers Hair says:

    The tying goal was clearly scored after the whistle blew.
    It appears the rules are fluid.

  41. theDjdj says:

    ArmchairGM: Followed by Barzal and… oh, forget it.

    don’t do it to yourself. It’s like looking at ex’s photos on instagram.

  42. Side says:

    Harpers Hair:
    The tying goal was clearly scored after the whistle blew.
    It appears the rules are fluid.

    LOL

  43. Reja says:

    Harpers Hair:
    The tying goal was clearly scored after the whistle blew.
    It appears the rules are fluid.

    It’s the Oilers year this is just the start of things to come my Oiler denier.

  44. ashley says:

    who:
    Lucky win.
    Some of our best players managed the puck horribly tonight. I was thrilled to get 1 point, never mind 2.
    I know he’s red hot, but playing James Neal at 5×5 is not a good idea.

    Do you mean playing Neal 3×3 is a bad idea? I thought it was an egregious error. Skill is useful in OT, but speed is everything, especially when we don’t have the puck. Can’t have a guy like that out there.

  45. Ryan says:

    Harpers Hair:
    The tying goal was clearly scored after the whistle blew.
    It appears the rules are fluid.

    I heard it after the goal was scored.

  46. hunter1909 says:

    Dallas is leading the game and Lucic is -1 but he made 2 big hits.

    #intangibles

  47. OmJo says:

    Johnny skid:
    the koskinen detractors were silenced tonight.

    Happily!

    If he can shut me up all season long, I definitely won’t be complaining.

  48. Harpers Hair says:

    Ryan: I heard it after the goal was scored.

    I heard it before the goal was scored.
    Shit happens.

  49. Professor Q says:

    Harpers Hair: I heard it before the goal was scored.
    Shit happens.

    It did seem like that at first, but when they played the slow motion replay it showed it being blown as McDavid had knocked it in. But I do think the refs were embarrassed and had make the call, hence why they sounded so disappointed. They did claim it as a good goal on the ice, as opposed to a cover, so they would have had to turn that over with indisputable evidence.

  50. Harpers Hair says:

    In other news….Patrick Marleau has two goals in his first appearance in the Shark’s lineup.
    Who woulda thunk it?

  51. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    Ugly win, but I’ll take it.
    By eye the best player was Bear. Even more impressive because his “veteran” D partner was just about everywhere except where he was supposed to be for most of the night. Chaos. Hope coaching staff shows some tape to nip that slop in the bud.
    McD tied the game but that was one of his weakest performances. Drai and Klef also subpar.
    Enough complaining!
    Bring on the rangers!

  52. Harpers Hair says:

    Professor Q: It did seem like that at first, but when they played the slow motion replay it showed it being blown as McDavid had knocked it in. But I do think the refs were embarrassed and were told to make the call, hence why they sounded so disappointed.

    As I said, shit happens…but it likely wasn’t a goal.

  53. Side says:

    Harpers Hair: As I said, shit happens…but it likely wasn’t a goal.

    Sour grapes over a game your team isn’t even playing in. Hmm…

  54. who says:

    ashley: Do you mean playing Neal 3×3 is a bad idea?I thought it was an egregious error.Skill is useful in OT, but speed is everything, especially when we don’t have the puck.Can’t have a guy like that out there.

    Yeah sorry. 3×3. No way Neal should be out there.

  55. Harpers Hair says:

    Side: Sour grapes over a game your team isn’t even playing in. Hmm…

    Well that’s just nonsense.
    If you can’t objectively view what happened, you should adjust your pom poms.
    Hmmm.

  56. Side says:

    During the Flames/Stars intermission, Marty Turco was asked who was the most annoying player was to play against. He waffled before settling on Ryan Smyth.

  57. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    Harpers Hair:
    The tying goal was clearly scored after the whistle blew.
    It appears the rules are fluid.

    Well actually, it was scored at the exact same time the whistle blew, but it doesn’t matter because the refs called it a goal before review. Thanks for coming out!

  58. Side says:

    Harpers Hair: Well that’s just nonsense.
    If you can’t objectively view what happened, you you just adjust your pom poms.
    Hmmm.

    It’s interesting how you post significantly less when the Oilers are winning. And when they do win, your post is about a call that’s not even controversial. Just being objective, here.

  59. Harpers Hair says:

    Side: It’s interesting how you post significantly less when the Oilers are winning. And when they do win, your post is about a call that’s not even controversial. Just being objective, here.

    Phhhttt.

  60. Ford Prefect says:

    GordieHoweHatTrick:
    Ugly win, but I’ll take it.
    By eye the best player was Bear. Even more impressive because his “veteran” D partner was just about everywhere except where he was supposed to be for most of the night. Chaos. Hope coaching staff shows some tape to nip that slop in the bud.
    McD tied the game but that was one of his weakest performances. Drai and Klef also subpar.
    Enough complaining!
    Bring on the rangers!

    Completely agree. McD with a goal and assist and I am disappointed by it. I like being spoiled.

    I watched the game sick as a dog with whatever disease is travelling around Calgary right now. Made me wonder if he caught a bit of what is going around their locker room.

  61. Reja says:

    I don’t care what team you are when you have a top 10 PP and PK your making the Playoffs Baby. Neal has turned our PP into a deadly weapon wait till point hound Evan is QBing it .

  62. Derek says:

    Harpers Hair: Well that’s just nonsense.
    If you can’t objectively view what happened, you you just adjust your pom poms.
    Hmmm.

    You posting about objectivity is like Hunter posting about sobriety. Good grief

  63. Caller Zen says:

    Harpers Hair:
    The tying goal was clearly scored after the whistle blew.
    It appears the rules are fluid.

    It appears this troll is HUNGRY. Be afraid, be very afraid…

  64. Buddy says:

    I’m old enough to remember when McLellan ran Caggiula and Strome as his 2nd 3×3 unit.

  65. OriginalPouzar says:

    We get the win and we know Tip won’t be happy and will have the boys ready for a better performance next game.

    Should be more options for Tip to get Archie and Chiasson in the lineup given the bottom 6 were not nearly as good as last game.

  66. HT Joe says:

    Derek: You posting about objectivity is like Hunter posting about sobriety.Good grief

    Don’t buy groceries when you’re hungry, and don’t go to the liquor store when you’re angry.

  67. Wilde says:

    Harpers Hair,

    delete twitter eric

  68. Wilde says:

    also here’s the bear play during the lead up to the 1-1 goal

    https://streamable.com/m4bd7

  69. Material Elvis says:

    who: Yeah sorry. 3×3. No way Neal should be out there.

    I agree. He looked like a liability out there 3 on 3. Use fast guys.

  70. Fraktal says:

    Wilde:
    also here’s the bear play during the lead up to the 1-1 goal

    https://streamable.com/m4bd7

    Wow, thanks for that. That was the perfect pass by Bear!

  71. Glovjuice says:

    Easy:

    Head of the Table Cup
    ———————————–
    Oh, and Pearson is NOT an NHL player and never will be. Trade needed now or bring Bouchard up.

  72. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    Material Elvis: I agree.He looked like a liability out there 3 on 3.Use fast guys.

    I also agree. But in Tippet’s defense…

    Neal is so hot right now…

  73. Material Elvis says:

    Harpers Hair: As I said, shit happens…but it likely wasn’t a goal.

    I’ll bet you a Woodguy that it was a good goal.

  74. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Reja:
    I don’t care what team you are when you have a top 10 PP and PK your making the Playoffs Baby. Neal has turned our PP into a deadly weapon wait till point hound Evan is QBing it .

    The main benefit from the OIlers being dangerous on PP is that opposing coaches will tell their team to stay out of the PB.

    Meaning cleaner games, which benefits skill. Which the Oilers have. More effective than Lucic!!!

  75. Material Elvis says:

    Crazy Pedestrian: I also agree. But in Tippet’s defense…

    Neal is so hot right now…

    If it was a PP then I would have no problem with him out there. Even strength….not so much. Even though he is out scoring Matthews and Ferland.

  76. Rebillled says:

    Harpers Hair,

    “In other news’ is a really great line.

    Comical.

  77. Professor Q says:

    Glovjuice:
    Easy:

    Head of the Table Cup
    ———————————–
    Oh, and Pearson is NOT an NHL player and never will be. Trade needed now or bring Bouchard up.

    Tanner is on the Canucks, so no need to worry.

  78. Side says:

    Harpers Hair: Phhhttt.

    Is there a fansite that’s equivalent to Lowetide for the Canucks?

    When I am bored I want to go phhhttt on it.

  79. Material Elvis says:

    Persson is passable for now. No way would I expend assets to replace him with Larsson coming back in 7 weeks. Leave Bouchard in the minors for now; it will be worth it.

  80. Numenius says:

    Draisaitl almost lost them the game not recognizing Hall was blowing past him in OT, but then redeemed himself with an amazing winning shootout goal.

  81. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Harpers Hair: Well that’s just nonsense.
    If you can’t objectively view what happened, you should adjust your pom poms.
    Hmmm.

    I don’t see how what you do here could be seen as ‘objective’, unless you are choosing to troll.

    It would be nice to see you use here your acumen for good, not evil.

    I would say most here don’t want to exist in a state of combat, sports is a distraction. Oiler fans hanging on at Lowetide after the troubles want thinking, fun and games.

  82. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Material Elvis:
    Persson is passable for now.No way would I expend assets to replace him with Larssoncoming back in 7 weeks.Leave Bouchard in the minors for now; it will be worth it.

    If they can carve out a successful start, Larsson easing back into the lineup only makes them stronger.

    Imagine him as the 3 RD. Not too shabby.

  83. B S says:

    Harpers Hair:
    The tying goal was clearly scored after the whistle blew.
    It appears the rules are fluid.

    First: you can here the puck ring off the back of the net before the whistle blows… ergo, puck had to cross the goal line before the whistle, unless you think the speed of sound created by a puck is magically different from the the speed of sound for a whistle, then no one can help you.

    Second: the play is dead at the time the referee “intends” to blow the play dead, not when the actual whistle is blown (last I recall, unless that has changed this season). So it was basically at the discretion of the referee as to when he considered the play dead.

    Personally I have no clue how it was that the referee didn’t “intend” to blow the play dead before the Oilers scored. The goal was a good goal (puck wasn’t covered, shot into the net without goalie interference etc.), but I have seen those goals called back repeatedly (for the Oilers as well as other teams) because the referee was already trying to stop the play (Mr Magoo comes to mind).

    It seems damning of NHL officiating in general (not just this sequence) that I cannot watch that play and tell you why the Oilers got that goal.

  84. Scungilli Slushy says:

    B S: First: you can here the puck ring off the back of the net before the whistle blows… ergo, puck had to cross the goal line before the whistle, unless you think the speed of sound created by a puck is magically different from the the speed of sound for a whistle, then no one can help you.

    Second: the play is dead at the time the referee “intends” to blow the play dead, not when the actual whistle is blown (last I recall, unless that has changed this season). So it was basically at the discretion of the referee as to when he considered the play dead.

    Personally I have no clue how it was that the referee didn’t “intend” to blow the play dead before the Oilers scored. The goal was a good goal (puck wasn’t covered, shot into the net without goalie interference etc.), but I have seen those goals called back repeatedly (for the Oilers as well as other teams) because the referee was already trying to stop the play (Mr Magoo comes to mind).

    It seems damning of NHL officiating in general (not just this sequence) that I cannot watch that play and tell you why the Oilers got that goal.

    Maybe they deserve a break once in awhile after 40 years of oppression by the league. Seriously. It’s been proven by those looking at penalty calls over time. Oilers – consistently less calls for.

    No to mention many rule changes specifically targeting them.

  85. B S says:

    Wilde:
    also here’s the bear play during the lead up to the 1-1 goal

    https://streamable.com/m4bd7

    Thank you, and had to laugh, I mentioned how well Bear played to my partner (who glanced at the game while doing her own thing), she asked if that was the guy who passed it between the devils player’s legs. I wasn’t even sure about that part of the play until I watched this. Fantastic sequence.

  86. geowal says:

    Side: Is there a fansite that’s equivalent to Lowetide for the Canucks?

    When I am bored I want to go phhhttt on it.

    Of Lowetide, there are no equals!

  87. OriginalPouzar says:

    I was pretty sure that, if the puck goes in when the whistle is being blow and its determined that the whistle shouldn’t have been blow and the play was not effected by the whistle, its a good goal.

    This is from last year’s rule book regarding video review:

    The video review process shall be permitted to assist the Referees in
    determining the legitimacy of all potential goals (e.g. to ensure they
    are “good hockey goals”). For example (but not limited to), pucks that
    enter the net by going through the net meshing, pucks that enter the
    net from underneath the net frame, pucks that hit the spectator
    netting prior to being directed immediately into the goal, pucks that
    enter the net undetected by the Referee, etc.
    This would also include
    situations whereby the Referee stops play or is in the process of
    stopping the play because he has lost sight of the puck and it is
    subsequently determined by video review that the puck crosses (or
    has crossed) the goal line and enters the net as the culmination of a
    continuous play where the result was unaffected by the whistle (i.e.,
    the timing of the whistle was irrelevant to the puck entering the net at
    the end of a continuous play).

  88. oilersfan says:

    Tuesday night flames come back from 3-0 to lose in OT

    Tonight down 2-0 in the third , come back and win in the shootout

    I hate the flames almost as much as I love the oilers

  89. Lowetide says:

    Harpers Hair:
    The tying goal was clearly scored after the whistle blew.
    It appears the rules are fluid.

    Yeah, I think that’s fair. I think that goal doesn’t count a year ago. Oilers have had damnable luck in these late goals/against, so maybe the hockey Gods paid one back tonight.

  90. Side says:

    oilersfan:
    Tuesday night flames come back from 3-0 to lose in OT

    Tonight down 2-0 in the third , come back and win in the shootout

    I hate the flames almost as much as I love the oilers

    Fortunately we have a man on the inside to help sabotage the Flames. Lucic failed to tie up his man which lead to the first goal against the Flames.

  91. Side says:

    geowal: Of Lowetide, there are no equals!

    I know, it was a question which I knew the answer too. Like if I were to ask Harper’s Hair how many cups the Canucks have won thus far.

  92. B S says:

    Scungilli Slushy,

    Don’t get me wrong, I think the officiating is a big part of who makes the playoffs. Look at the Oilers Penalties for and against in 16/17 vs the years they missed the playoffs:

    Year PPs PKs Diff
    10/11 304 321 -17
    11/12 262 296 -34
    12/13 169 175 -6
    13/14 271 280 -9
    14/15 232 219 +13
    15/16 237 254 -17
    16/17 245 223 +22
    17/18 210 245 -35
    18/19 222 246 -24

    It looks for the most part like the differential you’d expect for the Philadelphia Flyers, not a team dominated by McDavid, Draisaitl and Nuge. (preceded by Hall and Eberle, one of who won the Lady Byng one of those seasons ffs) Fast skilled players that should draw more penalties than they take. Instead the league chooses to reward little shits like Matthew Tkachuck by penalizing retaliations like some sort of neglectful alcoholic parent.
    I’m just not sure what convinced the refs to actually call fair game

  93. Dr. Taboggan says:

    Wilde:
    also here’s the bear play during the lead up to the 1-1 goal

    https://streamable.com/m4bd7

    Yummy! Very sexy play. Love me some Bear!

  94. Dr. Taboggan says:

    Slightly concerning that we are 4-0 and are averaging well under 30 shots a game.

  95. JimmyV1965 says:

    Side: It’s interesting how you post significantly less when the Oilers are winning. And when they do win, your post is about a call that’s not even controversial. Just being objective, here.

    I wouldn’t even respond. It’s not worth it. This is an Edmonton Oilers fan site. I’ll often visit the Flames Nation site because I enjoy their misery when it happens, but I never post anything negative because I think it makes you look like an immature loser.

  96. Nit64 says:

    OriginalPouzar: where the result was unaffected by the whistle (i.e.,
    the timing of the whistle was irrelevant to the puck entering the net at
    the end of a continuous play)

    Not once have I heard a commentator reference that. And it makes sense. When the timing on the whistle and the goal is that close either way of course the whistle did not affect the goaler or the play. Nice catch.

    Sorry HH. OP rules

  97. Jethro Tull says:

    Lowetide: Yeah, I think that’s fair. I think that goal doesn’t count a year ago. Oilers have had damnable luck in these late goals/against, so maybe the hockey Gods paid one back tonight.

    LT, I’ve heard the commentators reference a few times that the refs have been directed to give the benefit of the doubt for goal decisions. Just wondering if you remember if there was any official release for this?

  98. B S says:

    Nit64: Not once have I heard a commentator reference that. And it makes sense. When the timing on the whistle and the goal is that close either way of course the whistle did not affect the goaler or the play. Nice catch.

    Sorry HH. OP rules

    Except, how many times have we seen that exact play be called a no goal in past years? It isn’t so much the rule book (which, as OP posted, clearly makes this a goal), the question is why haven’t the referees been applying the rule this way previously?

  99. Nix says:

    Strome leading the league in faceoffs at 70% lol. Not entirely sure why but I’m fairly emotionally attached to the thought he will sign next summer and again be the RH 3C on this team.

  100. Glovjuice says:

    Nix:
    Strome leading the league in faceoffs at 70% lol. Not entirely sure why but I’m fairly emotionally attached to the thought he will sign next summer and again be the RH 3C on this team.

    I would rather have Strome than Eberle on this team now. And, rather than Ganger or Spooner of course. Fuck, now I need a stiff Bourbon after no drinking for a month.

  101. Lowetide says:

    Jethro Tull: LT, I’ve heard the commentators reference a few times that the refs have been directed to give the benefit of the doubt for goal decisions. Just wondering if you remember if there was any official release for this?

    I don’t recall seeing one, but your mentioning this dovetails with what we’re seeing.

  102. Nit64 says:

    Jethro Tull: LT, I’ve heard the commentators reference a few times that the refs have been directed to give the benefit of the doubt for goal decisions. Just wondering if you remember if there was any official release for this?

    Maybe the commentators should reference the rule OP referenced. Because the actual rule is stronger than giving a little leeway. It says the whistle had to affect the play. Which is impossible when it’s split second.

  103. drglen says:

    Lowetide: Yeah, I think that’s fair. I think that goal doesn’t count a year ago. Oilers have had damnable luck in these late goals/against, so maybe the hockey Gods paid one back tonight.

    perhaps the mcdavid tax has been paid in full now.

  104. Minister D- says:

    The Oilers played like a team at the end of a winning streak. Book it.

  105. drglen says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I’m not even sure what to think of that game – they certainly got outplayed.

    Did Mikko steal it?

    McDavid was awful in OT – lazy turnovers and even lazier disregard for defence – oh well, I think I can give him a break.

    What I DO know is: 4 games, 4 wins.

    I think McDavid was human tonight and was visibly exhausted in OT.

    Mikko, did win the game for us. Stole it in shootout yes… stone cold down the stretch. Credit where credit is due we could easily have lost this game and NJ was the slightly better team.

  106. BONE207 says:

    Jethro Tull: LT, I’ve heard the commentators reference a few times that the refs have been directed to give the benefit of the doubt for goal decisions. Just wondering if you remember if there was any official release for this?

    I haven’t heard of this but if anything, the intent to blow the whistle & the actual sound may give the ref a built in excuse. They can either call it a goal if they believe it’s legit or reviewed, or disallow it if there is goaltender interference or illegal contact like a high stick. It lets their brain catch up with the action or a disturbance in the fabric of time. Cue Darkness…

  107. GMB3 says:

    Glovjuice: I would rather have Strome than Eberle on this team now. And, rather than Ganger or Spooner of course. Fuck, now I need a stiff Bourbon after no drinking for a month.

    A 45-55 point skilled RW would be a massive boon to this org. We don’t even have four forwards who should be out in 3v3.

  108. BONE207 says:

    Minister D-:
    The Oilers played like a team at the end of winning streak. Book it.

    I thought this as well after listening to post game commentary & reading about the thoughts here. ( I didn’t see the game) .
    But this fantasy can live a little longer can’t it? Reverse jinx of a Saturday morning/matinee game?
    It’s got to happen some time. Keep riding the PDO pony baby….

  109. Nit64 says:

    Minister D-,

    This morning LT mentioned the last 4-0 oilers team. The rest of October they got 1 point in 5 games. More importantly that squad recovered to playoff position until they got whacked the last 11 games

    This season is going to ride on friendly competition with Holland’s 26-27s and the boys from the bake . If the players and Tippet manage that with the right next man up attitude they don’t have to fade in the second half. We wait

  110. leadfarmer says:

    Whats the record for most minutes by a forward in a season?
    Just asking

  111. Nit64 says:

    BONE207: I haven’t heard of this but if anything, the intent to blow the whistle & the actual sound may give the ref a built in excuse. They can either call it a goal if they believe it’s legit or reviewed, or disallow it if there is goaltender interference or illegal contact like a high stick. It lets their brain catch up with the action or a disturbance in the fabric of time. Cue Darkness…

    Commentators have owerblown the intent to blow the whistle. Its no more absolute than the actual whistle.

    If the ref on review see the continuous play with no effect from any actual whilstles and he does not see anything justifying any intended whistle he has a goal. The whole intended whistle timing only comes in when the review shows a reason for that whistle. Again if he’s instructed to ignore a real whistle of course he should ignore the intended one.

    The intended whistle has been oversold by lazy commentary.

  112. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Harpers Hair:
    The tying goal was clearly scored after the whistle blew.
    It appears the rules are fluid.

    Yes they are. And the Oilers have been on the losing side of that fluidity many many times.

  113. Pescador says:

    Side: Fortunately we have a man on the inside to help sabotage the Flames. Lucic failed to tie up his man which lead to the first goal against the Flames.

    Then proceeded to give his man, the goal scorer a filthy slash on the back of the legs.
    Obviously mad at himself, but that slash was uber greasy

  114. OilClog says:

    After seeing Todd dump Lucic over the boards 3×3 I have all the time in the world watching Neal, he’s still got great hand eye.

    Kass is would be my option of current forwards for Nuge.

    With Hall this team would be forcing everyone to play their game most nights, along with Tipps systems..

    3 for 1 New Jersey

    Do it. We know you’re reading

    We’ll throw in Persson.

  115. OilClog says:

    Harpers Hair: As I said, shit happens…but it likely wasn’t a goal.

    You should ask the Ukraine to look into it.

  116. Munny says:

    Just saw that Bear pass, Fucking sick.

    That and the blue line back pedal goal in pre-season are two absolute quality offensive plays;

    Also… he played PP in his first stint with the Oilers and looked good,

    Tippett and Holly are united in slow-playing youth. But it’s only a matter of time before we see him on the PP.

    Right now it’s more important to control his total minutes.

  117. Munny says:

    If not Neal in OT, you’ve got to play Jurco. Not necessarily better, though, just different.

    With 7 in three, Coach has got to give Neal a sniff.

  118. Admiral Ackbar says:

    4-0 yet this PDO has me nervous. They were dominated in this game, to my eye. The shot tally would agree and I bet possession was worse. I wonder what the HDSC count was.

    I need permission to be happy….

  119. Munny says:

    OilClog:
    After seeing Todd dump Lucic over the boards 3×3 I have all the time in the world watching Neal, he’s still got great hand eye.

    Kass is would be my option of current forwards for Nuge.

    With Hall this team would be forcing everyone to play their game most nights, along with Tipps systems..

    3 for 1 New Jersey

    Do it. We know you’re reading

    We’ll throw in Persson.

    There’s no way to make the salaries work without trading Russell or Gagner. No way we’re trading Russell with Larsson out and no way NJ is taking Gagner back. And can they even take on 2 extra contracts?

  120. Munny says:

    Admiral Ackbar:
    4-0 yet this PDO has me nervous. They were dominated in this game, to my eye. The shot tally would agree and I bet possession was worse. I wonder what the HDSC count was.

    I need permission to be happy….

    Be happy… because next game is a completely different game.

    And because it’s been a long time since goalering has won us a game of Goalie. Much less two. We’re surely behind League average over the past decade in this regard.

    Let’s see if the coach can get them back to Do Re Mi.

  121. GMB3 says:

    The correcting of the PDO is going to be ugly for us. We should probably be 2-2 at this point.

  122. godot10 says:

    The Oilers plan to maximize points this year with a still problematic roster is basically the same model as the Krueger model with Hall.

    1) Win the twenty minutes with McDavid on the ice even-strength.
    2) Win the special teams.
    3) Win in OT.
    4) Saw off the shootout.

    Then you have shortened the game to 30 something minutes, probably up by a goal or two. Hanging on in those 30 minutes won’t look pretty.

    Maximum points and lousy fancy stats.

    A problematic roster is NOT an excuse for losing. Both Eakins and McLellan blamed the roster. Krueger and Tippett were/are going to maximize what they have.

    The fancy stats may be ugly this year. It might take till next season to have a roster with fewer problems to have the fancies look good.

    That is why Holland and Tippett put so much effort in acquiring penalty killers. Winning the special teams plus McDavid/Draisaitl shortens the games, and give one a head start in that shortened game.

    And people will be saying all year that it is unsustainable.

    Which is sort of true, but then one has to work on making it sustainable beginning next year by fixing the remaining problems in the roster.

  123. SwedishPoster says:

    Lowetide: Yeah, I think that’s fair. I think that goal doesn’t count a year ago. Oilers have had damnable luck in these late goals/against, so maybe the hockey Gods paid one back tonight.

    It’s the Ken Holland reffect.

  124. ArmchairGM says:

    Side:
    During the Flames/Stars intermission, Marty Turco was asked who was the most annoying player was to play against. He waffled before settling on Ryan Smyth.

    The bigger question is, why are you watching a Flames/ Stars game?

    /jk

    :p

  125. jp says:

    Ryan: I heard it after the goal was scored.

    Harpers Hair: I heard it before the goal was scored.
    Shit happens.

    I was surprised when the NJ announcer said he thought it was blown before the puck crossed. It seemed obviously in before the whistle to me.

    I actually wonder if the audio was off by a split second on some or the other feeds.

  126. ArmchairGM says:

    OriginalPouzar: McDavid was awful in OT – lazy turnovers and even lazier disregard for defence – oh well, I think I can give him a break.

    I posted about this yesterday, it may have been on a different forum, that to me McDavid hasn’t been playing up to the level we’re used to seeing. He’s bobbling pucks more, he has speed but not the same explosiveness, his overall pace and effort aren’t there shift-to-shift. And yet, he’s somehow leading the league again. What a player! I can’t wait to see him go supernova after Christmas!

  127. jp says:

    who: Yeah sorry. 3×3. No way Neal should be out there.

    McDavid-Draisaitl
    Nuge-….

    And?

  128. Bank Shot says:

    Harpers Hair:
    The tying goal was clearly scored after the whistle blew.
    It appears the rules are fluid.

    That doesn’t matter anymore. Learn the rules.

  129. Twinkle Mo' Fo' Toes says:

    Professor Q: It did seem like that at first, but when they played the slow motion replay it showed it being blown as McDavid had knocked it in. But I do think the refs were embarrassed and had make the call, hence why they sounded so disappointed. They did claim it as a good goal on the ice, as opposed to a cover, so they would have had to turn that over with indisputable evidence.

    It seems like calls in these early days are actually going in the Oilers favour, unlike previous years (or even in preseason). There were for sure 2 calls that were “missed”, but should have been penalties on Edmonton in the last 5 minutes. And calls that often were “missed” vs the Oil in seasons past are getting made.

    I like it and it’s about damn time, but I am concerned given some of the wobble of some of the skaters (like Benning- he’s clearly got horse shoes hiding waaay up his ass, Granlund – he is invisible, and was covering no one on the 3rd (I think) goal against last night, I would like to see Archibald in his place, Khaira – looks good in the O-zone, but he has had many shaky moments in the Dzone, and even Drai is making some bonehead plays that are resulting in 5 bell chances going the wrong way) but I think the way things are going that this will be a great opening 10 games and then the team will come crashing to the earth afterwards (I could also just be a typically fragile Oilers fan expecting the inevitable collapse before Christmas).

    It is awesome to see how things are going, but there are clearly many things to work on still. Yet, it’s pretty cool to consider that the team is winning with 5 rookies in the line up, 2 on D, and 2 “reclaimation” projects in the top 6, old goalies, and McDavid and Draisaitl not really playing as well as we know they can.

  130. Twinkle Mo' Fo' Toes says:

    jp: McDavid-Draisaitl
    Nuge-….

    And?

    Nygard.

  131. ArmchairGM says:

    Scungilli Slushy: If they can carve out a successful start, Larsson easing back into the lineup only makes them stronger.

    Imagine him as the 3 RD. Not too shabby.

    Russell-Larsson shutdown pairing? Works for me… maybe it will awaken Larsson’s outlet passing. He can do it, he just defers to Klefbom normally.

  132. ArmchairGM says:

    Lowetide: Yeah, I think that’s fair. I think that goal doesn’t count a year ago. Oilers have had damnable luck in these late goals/against, so maybe the hockey Gods paid one back tonight.

    I rewatched it about a dozen times this morning on both home and away feeds, I’m pretty certain the “tick” of McDavid’s stick hitting the post occurs a fraction of a second before the whistle.

    Either way, if it’s close I think the current officiating policy is to err on the side if more offense.

  133. ArmchairGM says:

    drglen: I think McDavid was human tonight and was visibly exhausted in OT.

    Mikko, did win the game for us. Stole it in shootout yes… stone cold down the stretch.Credit where credit is due we could easily have lost this game and NJ was the slightly better team.

    Great post.

  134. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    Harpers Hair: I heard it before the goal was scored.
    Shit happens.

    For someone who obviously dreads the oilers, you sure love to watch their games…

  135. ArmchairGM says:

    leadfarmer:
    Whats the record for most minutes by a forward in a season?
    Just asking

    Pavel Bure played 26:52 each game for 82 games for the Panthers in 00-01.

    2nd on the list is Jagr: 25:51 in 98-99 for Pittsburgh.

    Leon Draisaitl’s current 25:00 pace would rank him 6th all-time.

    In the past 10 years minutes have been managed more carefully. Not including this season, Kovalchuck holds down the top 2 spots (12-13 and 11-12), McDavid ranks 3rd (18-19), St Louis 4th (11-12) and Draisaitl 5th (18-19). McDavid’s 22:50 average last year puts him 52nd on the all-time list while Draisaitl is at 61.

    Keep in mind that the NHL only started publishing TOI figures for the 97-98 season.

  136. ArmchairGM says:

    Munny:
    If not Neal in OT, you’ve got to play Jurco.Not necessarily better, though, just different.

    With 7 in three, Coach has got to give Neal a sniff.

    I’d like to see Jurco – Nuge in OT, I think they would be a good duo. High skill, good skating.

  137. OriginalPouzar says:

    Munny:
    Just saw that Bear pass, Fucking sick.

    That and the blue line back pedal goal in pre-season are two absolute quality offensive plays

    Also… he played PP in his first stint with the Oilers and looked good,

    Tippett and Holly are united in slow-playing youth. But it’s only a matter of time before we see him on the PP.

    Right now it’s more important to control his total minutes.

    He was 3.83 P/60 on the PP that year – not bad.

    This year Nurse and Klef are 9.4 and 7.2.

    Bear does have 3 min of PP time (Nurse 6 min, Klef over 16.5, Persson 1).

  138. Pouzar says:

    godot10:
    The Oilers plan to maximize points this year with a still problematic roster is basically the same model as the Krueger model with Hall.

    1) Win the twenty minutes with McDavid on the ice even-strength.
    2) Win the special teams.
    3) Win in OT.
    4) Saw off the shootout.

    Then you have shortened the game to 30 something minutes, probably up by a goal or two.Hanging on in those 30 minutes won’t look pretty.

    Maximum points and lousy fancy stats.

    A problematic roster is NOT an excuse for losing.Both Eakins and McLellan blamed the roster.Krueger and Tippett were/are going to maximize what they have.

    The fancy stats may be ugly this year.It might take till next season to have a roster with fewer problems to have the fancies look good.

    That is why Holland and Tippett put so much effort in acquiring penalty killers.Winning the special teams plus McDavid/Draisaitl shortens the games, and give one a head start in that shortened game.

    And people will be saying all year that it is unsustainable.

    Which is sort of true, but then one has to work on making it sustainable beginning next year by fixing the remaining problems in the roster.

    Nails it again.

  139. who says:

    jp: McDavid-Draisaitl
    Nuge-….

    And?

    I would say Nygaard. But really it could be anyone who can skate. Jurcco, Haas, Kassian, Archibald when he’s in the lineup.

  140. Richard Roma says:

    godot10:
    The Oilers plan to maximize points this year with a still problematic roster is basically the same model as the Krueger model with Hall.

    1) Win the twenty minutes with McDavid on the ice even-strength.
    2) Win the special teams.
    3) Win in OT.
    4) Saw off the shootout.

    Then you have shortened the game to 30 something minutes, probably up by a goal or two.Hanging on in those 30 minutes won’t look pretty.

    Maximum points and lousy fancy stats.

    A problematic roster is NOT an excuse for losing.Both Eakins and McLellan blamed the roster.Krueger and Tippett were/are going to maximize what they have.

    The fancy stats may be ugly this year.It might take till next season to have a roster with fewer problems to have the fancies look good.

    That is why Holland and Tippett put so much effort in acquiring penalty killers.Winning the special teams plus McDavid/Draisaitl shortens the games, and give one a head start in that shortened game.

    And people will be saying all year that it is unsustainable.

    Which is sort of true, but then one has to work on making it sustainable beginning next year by fixing the remaining problems in the roster.

    The fancies are horrid.

    Ff%

    >50% – 1 player. Kassian
    40-50. 6 forwards. McDavid’s at 43.4%!!!
    30-40. 8 forwards!!!

  141. Pouzar says:

    I must say I am a little worried about my boy Haas’ ice time.
    Doesn’t seem to be a Tippett fav.

  142. BONE207 says:

    ArmchairGM: I posted about this yesterday, it may have been on a different forum, that to me McDavid hasn’t been playing up to the level we’re used to seeing. He’s bobbling pucks more, he has speed but not the same explosiveness, his overall pace and effort aren’t there shift-to-shift.

    So you’re saying: The cliff is looming. Maybe we can get our 3rd rounder back?

  143. vinotintazo says:

    godot10:
    The Oilers plan to maximize points this year with a still problematic roster is basically the same model as the Krueger model with Hall.

    1) Win the twenty minutes with McDavid on the ice even-strength.
    2) Win the special teams.
    3) Win in OT.
    4) Saw off the shootout.

    Then you have shortened the game to 30 something minutes, probably up by a goal or two.Hanging on in those 30 minutes won’t look pretty.

    Maximum points and lousy fancy stats.

    A problematic roster is NOT an excuse for losing.Both Eakins and McLellan blamed the roster.Krueger and Tippett were/are going to maximize what they have.

    The fancy stats may be ugly this year.It might take till next season to have a roster with fewer problems to have the fancies look good.

    That is why Holland and Tippett put so much effort in acquiring penalty killers.Winning the special teams plus McDavid/Draisaitl shortens the games, and give one a head start in that shortened game.

    And people will be saying all year that it is unsustainable.

    Which is sort of true, but then one has to work on making it sustainable beginning next year by fixing the remaining problems in the roster.

    This.

    We have two 4 lines and are missing 1 top 6 to replace Jurco.

  144. Jethro Tull says:

    GMB3:
    The correcting of the PDO is going to be ugly for us. We should probably be 2-2 at this point.

    I assume that by correction you mean to 100?

    The team would have to play worse than they did last year to do that. Not impossible. But improbable. They’ll lose a couple of points off it.

  145. ArmchairGM says:

    BONE207: So you’re saying: The cliff is looming. Maybe we can get our 3rd rounder back?

    Quite the opposite, I’m saying it looks like he’s ill right now and will be even better in the coming weeks.

  146. godot10 says:

    Richard Roma: The fancies are horrid.

    Ff%

    >50% – 1 player. Kassian
    40-50. 6 forwards. McDavid’s at 43.4%!!!
    30-40. 8 forwards!!!

    Winning the special teams is more significant to winning than lousy fancies, when on has two of the top ten forwards in the league. To fix the fancies one has to fix the roster, which couldn;t be done in one summer with no cap space.

    So Holland and Tippett focussed on fixing the PK, making sure to get forwards who could PK, to free up time and energy for McDavid and Draisaitl.

    The Oilers missed the playoffs the last two season mainly because of a horrid PK, and a mediocre power play.

    Krueger had an absolute abomination of a roster in Edmonton, and got a pro-rated 77 points, almost as much as McLellan in the last two years. Because special teams, winning when Hall was on the ice, and shortening the game.

    By fixing the special teams, Holland and Tippett should keep the Oilers in the playoff hunt till the end.

    Only injuries will kill this season now.

    Only a better roster can fix the fancies.

  147. CallighenMan says:

    Side: And here I thought millennials were supposed to be the sensitive generation…

    I’m old and confused. What is wrong with “goof” or “goofball” or “goofy”??
    Just a dog with a weird voice or someone who is always joking around. … so to me not really accurate to call Neal a goof, though he may be funny …

  148. Lowetide says:

    Pouzar:
    I must say I am a little worried about my boy Haas’ ice time.
    Doesn’t seem to be a Tippett fav.

    Road games cut down on the ability of the coach to find spots. Tippett is coaching to win from the anthem, so Haas on the road might get squeezed a little. I think he likes Haas. we’ll see.

  149. hunter1909 says:

    Ralph Kreuger eating the lunch of all NHL ex Oiler usually sacked head coaches everywhere in the NHL

    Tippett is above this. 4-0 buys a lot of free stuff.

    Eakins has the Ducks going so far. McLellan not so much for the Kings yet.

  150. CallighenMan says:

    Harpers Hair: I heard it before the goal was scored.
    Shit happens.

    No, that’s what’s in your head apparently.

  151. CallighenMan says:

    Lowetide: Yeah, I think that’s fair. I think that goal doesn’t count a year ago. Oilers have had damnable luck in these late goals/against, so maybe the hockey Gods paid one back tonight.

    Disagree. On super slow mo the puck is clearly just about to hit the back of the net as the whistle went.

  152. Lowetide says:

    CallighenMan: Disagree. On super slow mo the puck is clearly just about to hit the back of the net as the whistle went.

    Haha. Had a buddy DM me and say the whistle blew before McDavid shot the puck. Safe to say we all have our opinions and it counted.

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